Blade Master

[twin lark]

For some reason, i'm getting less punct hits than when i had pierce 🤡

wtf is going on?

With pierce i used to get around 100

No wait even more

Wtf happened?

Ohh wait, i remember now

The fcking badge

Forgot to equip

[odd dagger]

[twin lark]

Can't blame me

I'm old

[somber kiln]

anyone got the new f10 weapon skins?

[odd dagger]

i got ice one

[twin lark]

Do they have animation?

[somber kiln]

are you able to show me?

[odd dagger]

no

[somber kiln]

decent decent

[twin lark]

Idk why cyclone is getting behind but dps is good

[twin lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z8AREeq7qE

I don't play these kind of games anymore cause bns ruined them for me, now all i see are slow animations

Wasn't a perfect run but killed it with around 20 secs before enrage

or 11

What's the enrage time?

3 mins?

[odd dagger]

3 , yea

[tiny sky]

is purple tab / z still broken?

[odd dagger]

yes , wont really be fixed until we get a maintainence

[tiny sky]

dang okay

[twin lark]

If they decide to fix it

[odd dagger]

crazy that its taking it this long , its broken in all regions not just nc west

[wooden rain]

So all regions are equally incompetent at testing the most basic sh*t?

Someone said it works in other regions

[twin lark]

So KR is fcked too?

That's a first

[wooden rain]

Bruh of course not

[twin lark]

I mean not that it never happened before, i meant them taking this long to fix it

[wooden rain]

Kr isn't on same patch as us, tw and jp are

[twin lark]

True true

Forgot

[wooden rain]

How

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/old-folks-grandpa-granddad-gif-15296448

https://youtu.be/3h3noNP_T5w

First time i see a sin mirror match

[woeful venture]

crit damage and focus mantras are the best ones right?

[twin lark]

Yeah

I wish mantra wasn't RNG

Should be like adding different mantra names to make a certain combination to get what you're after

[rancid grove]

bother u guys a bit, how long will event twitch last?

[twin lark]

Should say on news ch

[rain nimbus]

Just 1k.. it's whatever not a big deal

[odd dagger]

can u charge 1k in my acc

[rain nimbus]

Nope

[urban bridge]

Would you be surprised if I say this is how it is in CN

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/we'll-be-right-back-dr-phil-adam-ray-gif-14199043934451135037

[odd dagger]

blame the devs who think thigns need to be rng if its mmo.

[winged reef]

The tooltip is broken but purple Z is working fine, I’ve been using it

[spiral sky]

Grandpa moment

[spiral sky]

https://youtu.be/9EcjWd-O4jI

[spiral sky]

Add a little more delay after rmb

[tiny sky]

is purple tab the same way with just broken tooltip?

[winged reef]

I’m not sure, I don’t have it nor use it. Someone else would have to try.

[wind timber]

Nope, tab is just sr8 up not working

Literally nothing happens

[odd dagger]

damn , they confirmed 12 man raid?

[wind timber]

On the cn?

[odd dagger]

yasin vid , yea

[wind timber]

I mean it's not 100% to arrive on kr

But if ever, then it would be cool

I doubt we would have enough people to clear it tho

[odd dagger]

i mean live has enough people to clear raids

so

we should be fine

• if they announce raid , a lot more people would comeback . One good thing about neo is that its never too hard to catch up

[winged reef]

Where’s this video

Nvm I found it

Does CN have actually threat in skills or is it just a random aggro dps check like west Neo

[main inlet]

also better not take any reference at CN tbh

the whole game is different

[fickle loom]

legendary skillbook gamba today

on stream

RIP to the slasher alt

[rancid grove]

why can't I get my reward even though I have completed the request?

[urban bridge]

probably through your coupons

[winged reef]

Yea I’m just imagining that maybe only CN gets raids if they have threat

Then again all mechs might be removed

Have to wait and see I guess

[rancid grove]

I got nothing

[main inlet]

different modes too

everything before silverfrost has easy - normal - hard

5 stages of diff after that point

also gold kinda drops like rain in there

[urban bridge]

make sure you got the correct ncsoft account linked to your twitch, says so it will be sent to your in game inventory, check mail/received items if its not there soon I would check with a mod I guess

[winged reef]

Hoping Silverfrost in KR brings nice changes

[main inlet]

double the book stacking limit

[winged reef]

Infinite book stacking! As long as it’s the same book, stack indefinitely

[wooden rain]

How in the hell does this hold up

You think it's easy to catch up on xp grind, on the purples that are expensive af but the methods of earning money are going down, or on the dead market where decent accessories don't exist for content that came out a month ago

Or is it on getting all the rng cards, rng insignias perhaps

No wait, it must be the field boss grind that can take forever with lack of players and low gear, yet too high prices to buy essences for a good ss set

[violet elm]

i have to agree, we're not talking catchup. i have been playing nonstop since release, i think i've literally missed like 4 days of daily mission maybe 3. im f2p and im nowhere near the legendary dungeons. we're not talking catchup. we're talking content is unfathomably unrealistic.

[winged reef]

As long as you can do BSH you're not that far behind. Eventually you can do Exile as well once you level up

[dull sentinel]

quick question , do you reconsider purple DT book bigger upgrade than purple sunstroke?
yes i know we stack dt books giving it grandmaster points to increase its dmg.
but reconsidering the dps boost the soulbadge gives of 1255% ad ap dmg, wouldn't it be better sunstroking sooner?

also your opinion of if you also have slightly bad ping preventing you to do 15 dts during one tab but instead you manage 13-14, wouldn't that also fix your rotation?

[little moat]

No

[violet elm]

If you re asking a out BP selector, get Dt since it's the most expensive

[slender kelp]

not like i've been logging into the game much, or at all, but i remember seeing a ss for 10k

[astral tendon]

dont know what happened

never talked to this guy lol

[gilded thistle]

WTFG

hater out of nowhere

[slender kelp]

i think it was just banter smh

[wooden rain]

Imagine blocking people for one random message

Bro hasn't played a multiplayer shooter in his life

[dull sentinel]

reaching 10k divine gems by itself is a task beyond me, besides that i don't play bns that much, my luck ain't that good to get good drops to sell and get divine gems to buy a sunstroke even if it was 10k.

that's why i asked about dps comparison between those two abilities.

[patent badger]

For the purple BP selector, would you pick puncture (I already have it) or the new purple tab?

[fickle loom]

I went for purple tab personally but i'm finished with punctures

doesn't work right now but should be a pretty nice increase over puncture gm stacks

especially considering our rotation is 3 skills puncture doesn't benefit from GMs as much as others

[little moat]

Deff get puncture, imo.

Tab isnt a gm stack skill, Puncture is

[little moat]

Since 55% is puncture it works great.
Fire the only better gm stacker, Pierce needs more BDr skills and hybrid is yeah ..

[patent badger]

those were exactly my thoughts as well. Im not done with puncture yet but 6 GM should give about 11% dmg increase

purple tab over blue tab gives a damage increase plus 5% crit rate, which increases your overall damage

[wooden rain]

4 over blue

[patent badger]

ah ye, by itself 6

I dont know the market value of purple tab atm. I know puncture is still about 30-35k

[little moat]

Purple puncture in Eu is 18-20k

The tab will go lower as long as you wait for idiots to buy it first

[spiral sky]

Tab should match cycline prices

[patent badger]

hm okay, then I should prob go for puncture

[somber kiln]

so guys, for fire...the purple meteor strike is a dps increase?

[odd dagger]

try it out , but should 100% be a dps increase over a blue dt

[somber kiln]

people took wind of it and got it at 8k lmao

was hoping to get it at 4k lol

[odd dagger]

is that na prices again

meteor is back to 2k on eu

[somber kiln]

yezzir

at 5k now

[winged reef]

Should have bought it prepatch

[somber kiln]

well didnt know it would be good loool

[sage tulip]

its ass

[somber kiln]

well its either that or searing slash purple i buy

[sage tulip]

searing slash for sure

[odd dagger]

searing 1st for sure

[sage tulip]

thing with meteor strike is that you cant properly track cooldown of it

to use it off cd

since you are perma in draw stance

[somber kiln]

track it with your searing

[odd dagger]

its half the cd of searing

[sage tulip]

whats the point of using both at the same time

[somber kiln]

no

you can do 2x the amount of searing

just when searing is halfway

you refresh

[sage tulip]

gl with that

[somber kiln]

then do it again

[sage tulip]

it will mess up your rotation eitherway because you are leaving draw stance

[somber kiln]

i mean its all up to how you wanna play

[sage tulip]

its only really nice as a kd for hybrid because its 0 focus, but you lose dps

[somber kiln]

so question, purple searing or stone for fire....the extended bd doesnt seem that great tbh?

[spiral sky]

The only problem i see

Is the animation

[odd dagger]

it does quite a bit of dmg to make up for the animation though

[primal hound]

saw a lunar slash sell for 20k on na last night

[odd dagger]

0.5x ap for 6 sec after easily gets u a lot more

[somber kiln]

hmmm

[winged reef]

Is it not the same animation as boot?

[odd dagger]

no

[somber kiln]

nope

does a little jump into the ground

[odd dagger]

downward sword thrust

[primal hound]

boot is a kick lol

[somber kiln]

plus purple greatly reduces the cd normally

from 45s

gyatt

[winged reef]

Well I've never used MS so I wouldn't know

Most "new" neo skills are just renames

[somber kiln]

tried searching if kelly used it but i pulled up an imposter T-T

[odd dagger]

does the heat buff get DT GM boost though?

[somber kiln]

dunno, prolly is on base DT

and then everything comes after

still bigger for the multiplier

for those who got it, how big of a dps increase did you find purp dt?

[sage tulip]

4-5k on mujin

around 6kish on a dummy

[somber kiln]

I see

thanks

[gray void]

dps gain heavily depends on current gear....

[sage tulip]

tru

[gray void]

better say it in % ish roughly than flat numbers, those are different for everyone

[somber kiln]

think i'll start going for legendaries

dont have any currently

[sage tulip]

around 20% ig

[loud hinge]

Looks like i have a same equipments as yours. Maybe the difference is i have none of purple books

[odd mantle]

but what about the defense shred for group

[somber kiln]

yeah i only got DT bc i bought out the bp lol

[primal hound]

leggos or upgrade insigs, i know ppl 930 gs with only 1 leggo piece

[somber kiln]

lego?

[primal hound]

legendary

[somber kiln]

i see

[fickle loom]

leg gamba 10 mins

[winged reef]

How many attempts

[jaunty lark]

Leg DT

[astral tendon]

If leg dt, I’ll buy lol

[little moat]

Staphhhh

U spend enoughhh

[jaunty lark]

Is never enough

[fickle loom]

starting now

[odd dagger]

did u salvage the slasher books

[fickle loom]

yes

have 3 left

[odd dagger]

he robbed us of the slasher and now abandoned it to the streets

[fickle loom]

2 trash purples

im not built for this lmao

[winged reef]

Did you gamba all already

[gray void]

it's ok, someone failed 25x and quit..

only 400k divines

😄

[jaunty lark]

BETRAYAL

[jaunty lark]

you forgot to log in with streamer client probably

[gray void]

there is no pity system so it's just rigged rng bs

[astral tendon]

where is my dt

thought streamer always get good 💩

[fickle loom]

not when it matters it seems 😭

[gilded thistle]

[rain nimbus]

joke of a game

[gilded thistle]

Nah just people wasting gold

[odd dagger]

that would be real price dark was still buying it

[rain nimbus]

i wouldnt buy that for more than 5k

[gilded thistle]

5k sounds fair for it

[hard iris]

Weren’t u the guy buying heavenly slasher for 25k? 🤨

[somber kiln]

so uh

is searing slash purple worth 4.5k?

[wooden rain]

no way, blue dt is 3.95 ap, purple is 4.5 (boosted)

that's only 14% even if 100% of your dps is DT which it isn't

[somber kiln]

maybe bro just started playing better since he got purp dt

purp books can change a man

[jaunty lark]

So guys, i need DA HELPO, big issues, since now we have two new desired skills for basic stance.

Im currently playing lmb+tab, and rmb+tab on blocks (tab stacking), since i felt that i didnt have enought crit rrate due to no cyclone. With the selector my plan was to swap to purp puncture, and get cyclone once and for all. But things happens.

First off, skills changes, since i have a meteor strike from purpa lvl 50, i could use the purp selector to get SS or DT, I could play hybrid or fire, since the other "usefull" purp book i have is fissure, but is selllable.

So I now have a choice, get tab bc new, get with the plan, or swap to fire/hybrid.

Also my ping its fluctuation like hell going from 55 to 90 on a whimp, so dunno what patth to heck progress (And also i dont play with macros so). PD, ye too much text, yada yada, I have skill isssue, halp

[sage tulip]

[sage tulip]

so before i did around 24-25k on mujin and with purple dt im doing 29-30k

isnt that

20%

[wooden rain]

there can be any number of factors impacting that

[odd dagger]

35

u are jst playing better

purple dt is only like 14.1% dps increase if 100% of ur dps was DT . but its like what 80%? 11.2% max increase from purple

[sage tulip]

[wind timber]

Purple dt is like 10% increase, i tested it few times myself, when i got it and when i switched to punct
And yes, there's like 1 billion of factors that can impact your damage on specific boss

[sage tulip]

my bad

[wind timber]

I can have from 22 to 29 on Mujin depends on the run

[gilded thistle]

[wooden rain]

also i personally use and like meteor strike

i like utility skills to begin with so it's extra nice to have one that's also arguably good for dps

my results are mixed but i haven't really figured out how to use it well

[somber kiln]

yeah

gonna go for that next

got purp ss, dt, and searing

thats the last one on my list

[little moat]

34k

[hard iris]

:kekw

damn

no nitro

vencord is gone

[odd dagger]

[jaunty lark]

[somber kiln]

hae would be better to play right?

[little moat]

Devourer

Unless u want to do KDs

Going down in price ehehe

Go down some more boys

[wooden rain]

who said you can't have pierce bdr uptime

[jaunty lark]

Dragon Rise POG

[spiral sky]

You bought hs for 35k

Now its 3,5

[simple jacinth]

DANG

[twin lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAyxZchMYI8&ab_channel=UnboxTherapy

This is stupid

[odd dagger]

why am i even trying to do all these batlle pass daily when pupa z wont be fixed till wednesday at earliest

[lethal dew]

I rr off the class

[spiral sky]

playing DCS on this... POG

[twin lark]

What's that?

[wind timber]

You mean soaring falcon? It's working tho?

[twin lark]

Wait for NA to be 100k

[spiral sky]

Digital Combat Simulator

[odd dagger]

no?

[rotund compass]

it works

[odd dagger]

fr?

[rotund compass]

yes

[odd dagger]

wtf

[rotund compass]

tab doesnt

z does

[odd dagger]

i thought every newly added ones were broken

[rotund compass]

its kinda not showing on item and has no description but it gives the extra focus

[somber kiln]

how come?

[lethal dew]

I gave up on my puncture

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/chihuahua-cane-recensionivere-cosa-what-gif-7417567602944477819

[lethal dew]

I didn’t know what changes they make on BM books

Listed a meteor strike for 3k on patch release day and it instantly sold like someone was camping it

[sage tulip]

yeah its amazing

[twin lark]

Cause they'll remove the annoying air effect

[winged reef]

I posted like 2 times in this chat that it works and I’ve been using it lol

[lethal dew]

Oooo nice I remember accidentally grief my teammates with the air thing

when I was only try to kd

[little moat]

Not again....

[fickle loom]

5 more vit pots until limit

[odd dagger]

there is a limit?

[odd dagger]

2 more days of quests to go i guess

[sharp current]

15 pots a day is the limit iirc

[winged reef]

Another purple transmute

Guess what

Another flash step

Definitely rigged

[green schooner]

Does somebody happen to have screenshots of the worldboss BM rankings of the first week 45?

[wind timber]

This maybe?

Or w8

it was meganura right

[green schooner]

yeah those

worldbosses swap on the daily

[wind timber]

I mean literally the 1st was Meganura

I can remember it

I think it should be 2nd or 3rd day anyway

[green schooner]

i got some screenshots, but I couldn't find more of them

[rain nimbus]

I bought it for 38k and that's old me vs new me

[wind timber]

When* was 45 released?

[green schooner]

12th of march was release

[wind timber]

This is 13

This is 16 and 20

[green schooner]

any of the first week would be perfect

[wind timber]

Thats all i've got

Okay it's 18

17

15

Now that's all

[hidden pawn]

https://imgur.com/jsiSTKz

need more crit i think

[green schooner]

thank you so much

[winged reef]

If I have mantra stones sets that give 5% chance for 1.3% crit and 5% chance for 0.8%, does it become 10% for 2.1% or are they both separate chances

[hidden pawn]

5% for 2.1

[somber kiln]

holy, these are cheap now

[somber kiln]

wait, is this NA or EU

[wind timber]

It's eu

And it's already dropped to 1650

Now it's a right price

[hidden pawn]

when will soaring falcon be cheap

[wind timber]

I've never seen one on eu

[rotund compass]

bought for 2k day1 so i guess its already cheap (EU)

[hidden pawn]

havnt seen 1 ever on na yet

i would buy for 2k for sure

[winged reef]

Bought one for 2k as well

Couple days ago

Havent seen any since

[gilded thistle]

Does it work or broken like tab?

[rotund compass]

it works

[gilded thistle]

[hidden pawn]

i thought tab and z are both broken

oh nvm its tab and raid rush

[twin lark]

This is already great

[hidden pawn]

ye the tab and lmb but need more crit for more punc

[twin lark]

Which macro are you using?

[fickle loom]

cs farm until 15/15 vit pots is over 300k

had to relog earlier

[gilded thistle]

[somber kiln]

they should really make these drop in dungeons man

[twin lark]

Is this the best way to gain exp? why not bsh1?

[fickle loom]

cs is 5k xp/5mins

60k/hr

bsh is more xp but no way am i doing multi of that for a full day

[somber kiln]

i'd uninstall

[twin lark]

But the drop though, might get a few leg

[wind timber]

A ton of cards also big

Btw need to flex a bit

[rotund compass]

big!

[crisp otter]

does bm have bleed

[winged reef]

Yes on X

Green book

Or scarlet breeze on LMB

[wind timber]

not like you can use any to keep constant bleed without damage loss tho

Or maybe spam x in the basic stance build idk

[twin lark]

Might start farming this instead of waiting for bsh2 parties

[grizzled gale]

I'm not one to say this since im clanless, but maybe you should join one xd

bbr is not it unless you wanna speed run your blessing

[twin lark]

Clans die

Only ones that are still around are whale ones

[spiral sky]

i can indicate one

[rain nimbus]

bns clan

what are they used for

[spiral sky]

cheap upgrades

😄

im in one

[grizzled gale]

how much cheaper is it

[spiral sky]

but i play mostly with others

10%

at level 10

5% at 5

[grizzled gale]

I'm gonna assume its very hard to reach 10

[spiral sky]

yeap

we are at 8

right now

oh no

just need to reach 9

9 is 10%

this expensive

[rain nimbus]

my account has a fk ton of stuff

i never joined a clan

[grizzled gale]

800+ gold lol

[twin lark]

you save gold if in a clan?

oh fck

[grizzled gale]

to be honest no one is even recruiting in game, aside from one clan

[winged reef]

Minimal but it adds up

20g instead of 25g is nice

For legendaries for example

[grizzled gale]

anything is fine im at 2g xd

[twin lark]

Lemme in

[scarlet stratus]

think i messed up, dt sucks ass i should have used my bp selector on puncture

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-gif-13767303

[spiral sky]

you actually can

but it will need to donate a toon

all donated materials were divided among the maximum number of members

so if you join right now

u need to donate for the 8levels

it will give time to do it but you still need to spend some golds and mats for it

[twin lark]

Got any free slot in your clan?

Anyone else recruiting?

[winged reef]

That’s like a crazy amount of mats if someone joins then lol

[spiral sky]

yeah

but at max level

every member will be donated the same amout

theres 3 slots right now

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/game-gif-2929360343905304205

But i bet you guys ceru

So i'm fcked anyway

[spiral sky]

we are crinsom

but its a br guild tho

if u want a full na guild

i can make that happen too

i play most with this guys

ima double agent

[twin lark]

Anything is fine

[somber kiln]

NA just has some lobotomites doesnt it

[twin lark]

Cheaper than i though it would

For a fresh tier

[somber kiln]

meteor strike gonna be 10k next i bet

[twin lark]

Buy now, resell later

https://tenor.com/view/business-man-doing-business-business-smoking-suit-gif-13498981

[spiral sky]

contact CriticalMistress

im always playing with his guild

[twin lark]

Will do

[spiral sky]

holy im still 35% to 56

[twin lark]

I won't even bother to lv up fast, sht is a chore

This guy is on drugs

[brave pendant]

Those are done for RMT purposes or trading gems between friends

[twin lark]

Thought so

[spiral sky]

4h to expire tho

[twin lark]

True

Must be rmt

[somber kiln]

it keeps getting better lol

[twin lark]

Ngl i would try to sell that for 50, i'm sure someone will buy it

NA be like that

[hidden pawn]

Skyze

[hidden pawn]

Ppl sold for 2k before

[twin lark]

Oh right you have 40ms

Took me a while to kill it alone

Idk who said the thing about the loot but i solo it and got no drop

OH SHT

from npc

first time

Tbh the min should be 5 gold

[azure dawn]

10% less cr for tree makes puncture builds painful to watch.

[twin lark]

Funny how they release a dungeon without mechs to just pump the dps req

[dire summit]

And the fixed rewards are worse 😄 If yast drop rates are correct

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[odd dagger]

it has flower mech though

[dire summit]

Imagine doing exile or lab and coming out with 1 key and one green skill box

[twin lark]

OG mech or dumbed down version?

[simple jacinth]

Dumbed down for sure

there no real Mechs just boss patterns that trips people up because they cant stand still and press there Macro button XD

[twin lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1337625935347843095/1378593123663351899/1184051846906650624.gif

[twin lark]

No matter what i do, can't get past 180 punct

I think it's time to stop playing on wifi 🤔

Might drop from 70 to 50 ish

I just don't wanna run a long cable all the way to my room

[odd dagger]

have u tried moving countries

[twin lark]

Wdym? i'm from NY

[odd dagger]

it jst gets u a stable ping , doesnt really drop it by much

[twin lark]

smh

[hybrid willow]

Wtb sun stroke EU

[safe quarry]

WTB trash purple books 1.1k each pm EU

[hidden pawn]

Wired should 100% drop ur ping but also if u are from ny u should have like 20 ping

[odd dagger]

oh hes supposed to be 20? its possible his network configuration on pc has some random stuff enabled.
I had to disable some stuff on my adapter settings to fix my ping issue when i initially moved to new apartment.

[rain nimbus]

🤡

[odd dagger]

thats a long enrage time

[hidden pawn]

Ny very close to virginia

[somber kiln]

gyattttt

[mint marten]

somebody is asking to much for each item

or is trash item

[somber kiln]

it was all blues i listed at 220 each lmao

[grizzled gale]

My blues aint even selling at 184

[rain nimbus]

💀

It's that bad huh

[winged reef]

Everyone’s just gambling purple books instead for sure

[odd dagger]

well purples went down in demand cause of selector in bp

so blues has to go down in result

[wooden rain]

yeah well purples should go 10x up in demand because of content requirements

one selector ain't gonna save you

[rain nimbus]

Funny how I was able to do all the content at this point in live without ever swiping a penny

At least bsh2 as far as content wise goes

And we had mechs

[winged reef]

All Moonwater dungeons were child’s play

But we also got Silverfrost within 2 months of the game’s release or less

[wooden rain]

if we didn't start off with all the extra sh*t like badges, insignias, and bonds, + free siren gear, even moonwater dungeons might have been tough

[mossy kite]

WTB Purple Soaring Falcon EU

[odd dagger]

tmr bp reset should be lvl 30 if my calc is not wrong

[rain nimbus]

those werent in the game on live at the time

[wooden rain]

i'm aware

that's why i said extra

[wind timber]

If we didn't start with those, the dungeons would be easier accordingly

They were much easier on the retail at that moment

[valid cradle]

Could be

Would is too big of an assumption

[wooden rain]

is this your first day playing neo? do dungeons look adjusted to reflect the gear of the playerbase?

[wind timber]

Bruh

Evolve

[loud hinge]

Create problems then sell solutions

[rain nimbus]

were talking about live launch tho..

[wooden rain]

we aren't, you brought it in from nowhere and were the only one to mention it

[rain nimbus]

you dumb lmao

[wind timber]

I guess it's too much for you to understand, that it was much smoother on kr, since they didn't rush this updates, were delivering them in small portions, with events in between, so the gearing was much easier and it didn't felt as devastating as it was on eu
And also idk why are you even brought this up, if we were talking about retail start

[rain nimbus]

key words would be IN LIVE

[wind timber]

I was talking to this poop guy*

[primal hound]

I browse this disc every single day here, ngl every time i see storm type or reply it's always either passive aggressive or borderline toxic, bro go touch grass, what are you 14?

man can't actually have a decent conversion without throwing shade or some kind of crap around

[wind timber]

👆

[hard iris]

I'd just ignore pooper he's playing with his imaginary friends, shitting on the game 24/7 while also playing it every day

🤷‍♂️

[primal hound]

pretty sure that's just hating life

[spiral sky]

[hard iris]

I never understood people that play games they hate just to be shitting 24/7 on it

always beyond my scope of understanding

it's like being a vegan

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-memes-funny-angry-relax-gif-26319010

Like a toxic relationship

[hard iris]

toxic relationships are for teens though

and braindamaged adults

[wooden rain]

caught a lot of strays for one daily i see

[mossy kite]

WTB Purple Soaring Falcon EU

[wooden rain]

i assumed ted was talking about neo moonwater cause tbh it was child's play

but i guess he was replying to you

[wooden rain]

you can test your theory by just going through the first page of results from me in discord and see if that holds up

[winged reef]

I meant Live release yea

There moonwater dungeons were easy even BSH and Naryu

Or manageable at least

You needed ok gear

[wooden rain]

live BSH was silverfrost wasn't it

[winged reef]

No, before

[wooden rain]

i somehow remember teleporting to bsh from silverfrost

[primal hound]

LOL dude i literally scrolled down on the first page of ALL your posts and at least 25% of them are toxic

[spiral sky]

My Loop is: NCa drops a new patch, bugs everywhere, high dps requirement, no events, then I start talking sh!t and venting, getting toxic, I start progressing and making content start to get some fun... and BOOM! Repeat

[winged reef]

We just got Silverfrost very early

[primal hound]

im dying lol i can make a compliation from this

[winged reef]

CS entrance was in Zaiweii

[wooden rain]

i mean go ahead? i won't stop you

but even 25% is far from every time so you're already not with yourself

[primal hound]

25% just from the first page bruh

you have 5800 chats

[hard iris]

CS and BBR should be silverfrost content

[spiral sky]

chill guys

[primal hound]

feels like the legendary dngs should be silverfrost in a way because on the map

[spiral sky]

bns "REneo"

[primal hound]

all these new dngs are squished beside each other

[spiral sky]

will drop soon

after china release

no more blessings

just grind

[hard iris]

iirc live moonwater was Poh, BSH, NSH then Naryu lab

but then again it's been 11 years or so my memory might bet tripping xd

[winged reef]

NSH was the 24m

Came with BSH

[spiral sky]

wasnt 2 versions

one open map

and one 24m raid sytem

[wooden rain]

there were multiple 24mans yes

[spiral sky]

something like that?

[wooden rain]

but neo said no because reasons

[winged reef]

Both efleet and nsh were open 24m

Just dailies and kill bosses

[wooden rain]

free ss as well

[spiral sky]

i remember that u need to killed 6 bosses

to spawn poh

[primal hound]

yea def not with our playerbase rn

[hard iris]

back then people had hands

now all peopel can do is press auto play

[primal hound]

not enough players to uphold 24man content

i don't even think 12 is viable in neo

would be cool tho, i only played live up to blackram so i never got to experience the big raids

[loud hinge]

Even if it is. How many players will be “ qualified “ to join a raid team?

[wooden rain]

kek no they didn't, people were worse than they are now, they just didn't need to be good at dps

[hard iris]

You say that yet I see ppl struggle at 10 year old content and tinfoiling mechanics

[winged reef]

At least in 4m later on you needed somewhat of a brain and hands

At least there were some mechs to clear

[wooden rain]

yeah but in 24man and 6man people were headless chickens

[winged reef]

I always ran 4m, no point in 6m

Unless you couldn’t find a party or dungeon was new

[primal hound]

at first maybe not but in a game like this over time yea

[loud hinge]

Nowadays players are used to auto play/chess games. Their brain/hands/skill are “ disable “. I’d say they will never fit this game

[hard iris]

Just look a dark hyping a game that died in every region it was released

Prime example of avrg. Gamer

Whaled hard, play every bm build realised they are to difficult for him, ended up playing tab lmb and then quit the game

[loud hinge]

Agree. I’m a f2p rn. I don’t think i can do HE with a decent team until a month later

[wooden rain]

if dark is the average gamer where you're at then i'm not on the same planet as you

[hard iris]

I know you live in a small little bubble wiht your imaginary friends, but he's the avrg. gamer in 2025

[wooden rain]

i guess that explains why the AAA industry is so f*cked

[hard iris]

or if u pug in bns neo, you'd see that the f2p avrg. gamer has no hands dealing negative dps while complaining in world chat the game is p2w

[wooden rain]

well that's false, the ones with no dps can't type nor speak english

[hard iris]

tts exists

[wooden rain]

text-to-speech? how exactly does that come into play here?

[hard iris]

pressione a tecla w

[primal hound]

I'm f2p as well but I think I actually have just enough to do HE

[spiral sky]

how much dmg u do in hae?

[primal hound]

it's a range of 25-30k rn

[spiral sky]

you need over 30k

on hae

to do tree

[loud hinge]

I only play 4 hrs/day. Plus, fortune never smiled at me. That’s why my gears are still ….
Can you imagine that i don’t have a purple DT yet

[primal hound]

i know ppl who have cleared it with 25/27k on hae

[odd dagger]

honestly if i had good ping, i could do he

[spiral sky]

they have bleed 100%

for that

[primal hound]

you mean bleed?

[spiral sky]

yeah

[primal hound]

yeah im sure if someone i run with has bleed we will be fine

im not in a rush anyways

[spiral sky]

i need to finish my SS

[primal hound]

it's like pulling my own hair out if I'm trying to squeeze out stats to do HE

but just get a few lvls and ur fine

[wooden rain]

that's quite a lot

[primal hound]

4hrs is not a lot if you're pugging all your runs

in my clan I can knock out 100hm and all my dailies in 4-5 hrs

but thats cus we're a 6 man running without finding ppl for each dng

[wooden rain]

4hrs every day is not a lot of time in bns? what is a lot then?

[primal hound]

i mean 4 hrs is a good chunk of time but it won't finish your dailies in bns

if you have to factor in all the time you have to find parties

[loud hinge]

That’s what i’m doing. I skip blue train and do multi TB instead. Honestly, i’m just playing for fun. So, it is all good.

[primal hound]

hae runs are like what 15-17min each? you do mushins + field bosses, then bang out bsh2 till 0 hm then go purple into blues and faction

when i pugged bsh2 like 2 weeks ago... it was 30min on avg to find a group

and each group did like 2-3 runs only

absolute nightmare.. and time sink

but thats cus i am also trying to be efficient with my hm

[loud hinge]

I’m not grinding as much as i did in Live anymore. Live was way too “ enough “ to grind back in the day

I dropped 2 wb because my kid woke up during boss time

[primal hound]

Ive been trying to play my alt to earn some extra gold to funnel into my main but yea you literally need a whole day if u wanna play more than 1 char

unless u have statics to just speed run with 0 break

[loud hinge]

I don’t even have enough time to finish main char

[valid cradle]

Honestly this sounds very much not worth it

[primal hound]

i guess it just depends how much time you have, i don't think i would be doing it if I had only a few hrs a day

[valid cradle]

I think ultimately

The gain from being efficient with hm potions is quite marginal

If you had spent that time playing an alt you wouldve had more rewards in the end imo

Except main character exp I guess

[loud hinge]

I start a day at 3 BG matches => mushin => wb => factions => purple train and end up with multi TB. Sometimes it takes long than 4 hrs

[primal hound]

ur not wrong, if i only did dailies and not cared about how hm was spent

i could prob play up to 3 chars

but the loot pool for that is so bad i can't

[valid cradle]

That said, my server is in the unique position where we have way more blessing potions than 99% of players will ever use

[primal hound]

i might consider that if i have less time tbh, i don't need loot from bsh2 anymore

but i do need endless gold

[valid cradle]

Honestly blue dungeon loot hasnt been disappointing

[primal hound]

and each char is like +10g extra a day

[loud hinge]

Everybody does

[valid cradle]

Relative to time spent

[loud hinge]

I still need bsh2 card and exp

[primal hound]

I hardly count the card as loot tbh its just so rare...

but technically i guess i do need the card still lol

just i was refering to like the soulshield and bracelet etc

[loud hinge]

I’m not counting much about the card drop rate. But it is still reasonable to grind

And my gears have me stopped at bsh2

Dev gave 2 free purple books. They are both trash and i can do nothing to them

1st free purple was a bit useful.

I haven’t got a purple DT either.

[primal hound]

selection will def help

but you need more than just 1 purp to be doing the new content

[loud hinge]

Yes sir, that’s what i’m looking foward to

[primal hound]

unles ur giga ap

[loud hinge]

My dps will be improved a little by monday

[loud hinge]

Wish me fortune on books gambah

[primal hound]

prob better than mine, lately it's been so bad

all the purp books recently have all been the lowest value ones

[loud hinge]

Can you believe that my bottom accessories cd increased 20~30 after upgraded to true? Then you can tell how high my char’s luck is

[primal hound]

im so glad u said that

i gained +2 on my bracelet from an upgrade

[loud hinge]

My bracelet cd is 53 at true

[primal hound]

+2 crit dmg is what i got

i can't wait to try again and be +1

we both in the same both

[loud hinge]

There is still chance to have it increase a bit more

[primal hound]

yea but not both crits

just 1 line right

[loud hinge]

My is True bro

[primal hound]

upgrades dont roll both ?

or do they

[loud hinge]

Probability said both stats will

[primal hound]

mine sure didnt ahaha

[spiral sky]

got this one for like 400 dgs

[primal hound]

who tf put that up for 400

[loud hinge]

Whatttt

[spiral sky]

it was 2k, i bought

spend some gens on seals

reseled mine

and sould for 2k aswell

rofl

[primal hound]

oh ok so after all math

u basically spent 400

[spiral sky]

mine as cd acc

[primal hound]

lol i did the same with mine

i bought this then i sold mine

[odd dagger]

ya u could get some really cheap ones off market

[loud hinge]

Guys, you have 3 digits on gears stats. Most of mine are less than 100

[primal hound]

i also have this that i might just upgrade idk

worth or nah

[loud hinge]

Nah

[primal hound]

my old earring but i 1 tapped the pyche

[spiral sky]

andthis ine

[loud hinge]

Worth if there is cd instead

[primal hound]

i tried rolling the same pych rolls but i spent over 35 poh pyches and didn't get it

[spiral sky]

worth a poh upgrade?

[primal hound]

how much from true to poh? upgrade cost

[spiral sky]

its the same

100g and 15 stone

[primal hound]

ooh

tbh if ur gonna consider that

i rather u do it on the wep

[loud hinge]

If anyone of you feel depressed at upgrading gears. Lmk, i’ll show you my gears after a ton of attempts

[primal hound]

you gain WAY more ap

[spiral sky]

yeah

but i cant

play this f game

everyday

and i have 5

stone

[primal hound]

i have 8

u litrally have to buy all 50g stuff to salvage

[loud hinge]

You want to gambah?

[narrow quest]

I´ve been unlucky upgrading

[valid cradle]

The hope is for ascent stones to become more accessible overtime

[spiral sky]

i tried already

[loud hinge]

Buy trash accessories at 50 dg and salvage them

[spiral sky]

bough alot 50gens one

to try get recipes

[loud hinge]

Oops

[spiral sky]

and stones

trying to get doublecrits

my luck for that is ass

[loud hinge]

1 stone = 1999 dg in NA

Which means you have 40 attempts

[spiral sky]

im gonna focus on my SS

[odd dagger]

not really worth upgrading with those stones till we get the ancient stone drop rate buff patch

[spiral sky]

im still need to get 3 pieces

[primal hound]

honestly my gear isn't even that great

most of them are just 1 liners

[valid cradle]

Can use the jewels to fail combat exp rolls

[primal hound]

i have 3/6 that are good double rolled

well 2/6 i don't count that crappy bracelet as good

[loud hinge]

But i think it is worth if you have bis weap

[odd dagger]

exp rolls are so much effort , ill jst lvl up slowly kek

[loud hinge]

Upgrade it to hexwood

[odd dagger]

40% exp per week isnt that bad

[primal hound]

60s +18 powder per rr i tried 15 times got 1 line

never again

never

[primal hound]

i'll lose the level race idm but in return i save my sanity

[spiral sky]

need to prime 5 and rerolls 1-3

[loud hinge]

I’ve heard a trick last night. People rolled their badges to get xp effects and grind ToE

They said 12k exp per run

[odd dagger]

O_o

[spiral sky]

what

[loud hinge]

That’s what i heard

[spiral sky]

how much boost

they have

[loud hinge]

Haven’t confirmed that yet

[spiral sky]

from stats

[primal hound]

that doesn't make sense tho

cus u stop gaining xp after u pass a certain lvl of the dng

i don't even get xp from bbr anymore

[loud hinge]

It doesn’t

[odd dagger]

no they changed that thing

[primal hound]

so how ppl getting xp from toe

[odd dagger]

u now get exp everywhere

[fickle loom]

rng was kind with weapon

[primal hound]

oh they changed it?

[odd dagger]

streamer client is back

[spiral sky]

streamer client

i see

[primal hound]

rng carried streamer whale dolphine shark, orca

[loud hinge]

No clue. Like i said, i just heard it last night

[odd dagger]

we kinda have a lot of time to spend in lv 60 anyway

shadowmoor is prolly in 2months

[primal hound]

yeah.. WLnext month with no new content right

just a catch up month for new wl's

[somber kiln]

class change voucher when

[odd dagger]

also shadow moor is easier than lab right?

[somber kiln]

seems so

just DDR it seems like

[fickle loom]

toe as in Tomb of Exiles?

that sounds odd

[somber kiln]

hmmm

and thats 3 bosses

wonder the base xp gain there

[loud hinge]

I agree

[fickle loom]

incredible

[somber kiln]

realtime nerfing

[loud hinge]

I’ll ask the one who told me that trick for a confirmation

[fickle loom]

dont think this is the play so far

[winged reef]

Decided to do an extra poh run for the heck of it

[wind timber]

[winged reef]

Got a double crit sword with soul core and mantra slots

Think I’ll upgrade it to legendary. Stats aren’t high but surely with 3 extra upgrades they will go up right

[fickle loom]

yeah

i think your informant is smoking crack

[odd dagger]

[loud hinge]

I smelt the odd thanks for confirming

[somber kiln]

hopium

[loud hinge]

He said he mis-typed it. It should be HE 12k+ exp

[fickle loom]

oh

that makes sense

[loud hinge]

280% boost

[spiral sky]

280% boost

rofl

[fickle loom]

340% seems to be the most you could get

so 280 is pretty crazy lmao

[vivid cove]

wtb> 2k NA

[opal salmon]

why is nobody playing purple searing slash? is the defense reduction not worth it?

[violet elm]

all fire users i see swapped from stone slash to searing slash. it is a dps increase to do so

[dull sentinel]

the defense decrease on my opinion is nice to have but for most content stone slash deals more but the moment you step into dungeons that surpass you in lvl the defense reduction makes a difference since it stacks on top with the summoner defense decrease.

[primal hound]

lolol this man made ill waste 10hm

for science

[twin lark]

If we can get 10% exp stat twice per acc+badges that's 160% extra exp gained per run

Is it correct?

[astral tendon]

still useless for puncture player, any variant of dt player will use searing slash anyway

[grizzled gale]

180%, 3 on badges

[hidden pawn]

How did soaring falcon purple go from 2k to 20k haha

[twin lark]

Damn, if only i had enough mats to reroll them all

We can't farm sht in this game

[opal salmon]

Is searing slash also defense reduction for party?

[mossy kite]

WTB Purple Soaring Falcon EU

[astral tendon]

it is for party

and it refresh on every tick of aoe damage

so theoritically is around 11 seconds def reduction on a 36 sec cd

[dull sentinel]

just a tip, it works on the lower level soulbadge and mystic badge, so you can get those on moonwater badges, so perhaps rerolling a few times for moonwater badge is better solution rather than throwing your matts, since at a time you could buy 5 moonwater soulbadge chests for only 50 divine gems.
besides that youn don't ruin your other badge stats.
also saw a kfm with his gloves having that exp buff effect on it, idk how since in the reset menu it does not appear as an option.

[twin lark]

kk

[astral tendon]

280% is the max i think, 20% per acc, 30% per badge

[wind timber]

Why did ill said 340 tho

[astral tendon]

not sure if it is worth it to go that far, probably just roll to around 200 and just sits there

idk

you cant get it from weapon

[rain nimbus]

A lot of this is wrong but ok

[wind timber]

Ye ik

I also thought 280 is best you can get

[astral tendon]

20% per acc x 6, 30% x 2

[rain nimbus]

I don't think 1k is whaling hard. And I tried every build. I didnt lose too much dg swapping either

[astral tendon]

and you still have to either running cs mindlessly or running tree mindlessly

cs is the fastest, tree is the most effective per blessing i think

both are boring af

tbh cs need more brain power than tree.

i litearlly falling asleep while doing tree

[dull sentinel]

to weak to do those dungeons, but as a legendary dungeon i expected to hear "oh yes it has some mechanics"

now you make it even worse to even bother grinding for that.

[astral tendon]

i mean lab has some mech

[dull sentinel]

does this game even reach a point that has mechanicsc

like live bns had

[astral tendon]

both Minou and Fujin/Rajin have some mech

[scarlet stratus]

yea the mech is u have to whale to do the mech xD

[dull sentinel]

besides that

[astral tendon]

Fujin/Rajin are pretty brutal for lv55s

probably will be trivulised once were are 57 or 58

[dull sentinel]

brutal in term of what, lacking dps so if we get cced and miss even a few seconds of dmg we wipe?

[astral tendon]

thats one thing, also normall attack hurts, if i dont parry it hits 25k through the block.

and failing the mech will wipe as well.

but then is not like live

where the mech just 100 to 0 you

it just deal a lot of damage.

with higher level you can probably face tank it just like the sobo cc

i dont even bother to cc sobo nowadays when i solo poh

deals nothing anyway

[dull sentinel]

the lack of mech dmg makes every dungeon so far a dps check, besides the fact that there is no actual threat in this game we probably wont even see a single mech related to tanks and marks.

[astral tendon]

i mean Rajin and Fujin has some, where you need to position yourself to open the cc bar

but nothing to special

[primal hound]

haha i remember as a fresh 45 doing world boss, i tried blocking one of the blockable attacks, i took 30k dmg

it almost killed me trying to block

[astral tendon]

i have 6.4k def and 1.1k block, Rajin hit me 25-30k while im blocking

[dull sentinel]

generally speaking, i am not sure as a f2p i'll be able to clear the legendary dungeons before next major patch, heck in term of dps i am probably barely make the cut for command base until i get the selector book

[astral tendon]

if you decide to be a nolifer for bns neo, you can probably do tree

there are some f2p player who can do tree now

lab tho, is impossible if you do not whale at this point

and only mega whale.

[dull sentinel]

nah, aint gonna make bns as a job, if i plan to play for that long then i would just work more hours and swipe

lol

more efficient if you ask me

[astral tendon]

the whole EU probably has less than 15ppl who can do enough damage for lab

[dull sentinel]

that sounds sad honestly

[astral tendon]

but lab is probably the most not boring fight up until now

im having some fun when we wipe in it but it can get pretty fastruting due to a lot of rng bull💩 can happen in the fight

[winged reef]

Soguns Lament in CN seemed to have mechs

Just gotta hope Silverfrost brings more interesting content

[vivid robin]

it doesn't, you didn't

[winged reef]

And that this is just an “intro”

[twin lark]

I just want for once, please release a dungeon with actual mechs. I don't wanna see a dumbed down NS version

[gleaming pewter]

purple tab still bugged?

[twin lark]

Yes

[somber kiln]

is purp dragon crash worth it

2.5K

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-fancy-dead-chat-yapping-pixelated-yapping-dead-chat-pixelated-gif-6714540924697693626

[wooden rain]

I really doubt it, from what i watched caera got hit for that when failing to counter/iframe entirely

Unless there's some single attack that hits really hard for some reason

[little moat]

[silk beacon]

is Blazing demon time based or kills based?

[twin lark]

Is Karma based

They won't let you kill it

Or Homra, one of those two

For some reason they always know when is up

[fickle loom]

I was testing you guys, good job you passed

(I was tired and not thinking)

[little moat]

Immortality > Exp gain

Need that minmax

[sage tulip]

Exp first, min max after

[fickle loom]

just get hexwood and double tree affinities on the weapon and that’s already like 8% increase damage

[little moat]

Yeah, Just get hexwood

[sage tulip]

Weren't you saving up designs to craft it?

[little moat]

Kekw I salvaged all those

It was fake news.

[lethal prairie]

only 300g per craft what a steal

[sage tulip]

😭

[fickle loom]

just get it man

RNG only affects you negatively if you think it will

[little moat]

If I craft it it's a garuanteed obtain

[fickle loom]

guaranteed HP Evasion

[odd dagger]

jst keep rolling it , either u get exp or u get high immortality

win win either way

[little moat]

I do like being immortal

[odd dagger]

wind kfm dmg spread do be looking colorful. Thats a 30k dps hae mujin

[sage tulip]

Too many buttons

Get this out of here

[little moat]

"The Kick"

[sage tulip]

Gonna make Dark's brain explode

[wooden rain]

CycloNE kick

Just cut off

That seems like a weird build though

Short on cdr and focus

[little moat]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-you-gif-8906255

[wooden rain]

Does that even count as a joke

[dull sentinel]

for how much does mystic badge for dragontongue usually go for, rarely see any on the market
(the bis version)

[little moat]

6-12k.

[dull sentinel]

did try to roll into it myself for a few times, eventually gave up thinking perhaps gathering divine gems and buying it is a better way.

that 3.3 % is just dumb

[winged reef]

I sold one badge a week ago for 8k

But it was +2 or +3

[dull sentinel]

really need that or purple sun stroke just to fix my rotation since occasionally i do like 13-14 dts, besides that it means more frequent tabs to proc the soulbadge