Blade Master

[astral tendon]

do you have virtuous mystic badge

[sage tulip]

7/7

[astral tendon]

ok 7/7

[wooden rain]

purple tab

[astral tendon]

full dt should be 10dt per tab

[odd dagger]

u can just look at the dmg spread in the chart and add points to the ones which does the higher percentile

[jade merlin]

oh we have one? where can i find this chart 😮 ?

[odd dagger]

on the dps meter

[jade merlin]

ohhh i c wat u mean 🤣 ya fair

[jaunty lark]

ye, the dps meter

[storm apex]

How many DT's per tab is good? And if I have bound purple blade call & vortex blade should I go hybrid build?

[astral tendon]

the question is how many stack you have on dt is good lol

before 60 stack dont think about pure fire

hybird out perform

[storm apex]

Which skills needed for hybrid?

[astral tendon]

electric saber

[jade merlin]

wats 'murderous gust' on the bm dps meter?

[storm apex]

Are those blade call and vortex blade even good for hybrid

[astral tendon]

id say no

blade call is absolutely useless

vortex maybe, but you still need to get back to draw stance.

i dont bother with them

less stacks for dt

issue with blade call is itself does damage, but only gives 3sec bd

you have access to blade storm after you v anyway

its not gonna help in anyway shape or form

for damage purpose, you are not going to use blade call off cd

[storm apex]

I thought it would be good for pierce... but it doesn't proc the mystic badge :)

[astral tendon]

i mean you are talking about hybird

what kind of hybird are you talking about

[storm apex]

yeah I know but when I got it

[astral tendon]

oh

yeah, it doesnt trigger badge

but pierce mystic badge is also useless

so you can use it for pierce

but not for draw stance build

[storm apex]

what's the purpose of electric saber? it procs when u have black dragon active but wouldntu wanna use dt instead then?

[wind timber]

You anicancel dt with saber, so you'll get more hits/s

Which results in more damage itself plus faster sunstroke cd

Which again more damage

[twin lark]

Watched it, gotta say, that's a good macro

But for some reason, with focus doesn't regen back, which is weird since he has more than me and i don't have that problem. The time between me having to use Z then fissure is way longer that his, seems like either he's missing some cyclone/tabs or he's using blue puncture

Hmm using purp puncture, so gotta be missing some cyclone tab

[somber kiln]

felt

[storm apex]

I see, is the macro spammable or needs certain delay?

[wind timber]

Delay
it should be somewhere here

[wooden rain]

it is spammable with ahk

[twin lark]

How is that guy 225 on 1 video and then like 40 on the next?

[astral tendon]

pick a popo node

[twin lark]

you guys using a vpn?

[astral tendon]

I mean for a long time, is required for play in moonwater

Now, not so much

But still dc without it from time to time

[wind timber]

i have such a questionable ping spikes rn so i had to use it sometimes

[spiral sky]

wheres my patchnotes

[hearty ether]

anyone know like the ideal dps u need to do in cold storage to be able to hold ur weight in bsh1

[full trout]

last i remember was like 16k ish in cs

[spiral sky]

20k on dummy

can hold on bsh

[rain nimbus]

cope

[little moat]

Waw this event sucks

[tardy ledge]

What is a good ES/DT ratio?

[winged reef]

Does asking for a carry for bsh2 actually work? I see so many of these these days

[little moat]

I just boosted somebody but that was cuz it was a friends guildy and he asked nicely

I aint boosting those beggersa lmao

[brave pendant]

Around 17k. I remember losing around 3k dps going to training base and 14k is min for training.

[little moat]

Also

Lmao.

[winged reef]

Also depends on your level

At 55 there’s less difference

[hard iris]

That event is so sht, just carrying handless ppl for a few gold xd and then there's that 1 guy keep asking for carry pretending he never did it

KEKW~1

[wooden rain]

bluefire on all his characters on cinderlands

[little moat]

Typical Deloulu, perma online xd

[winged reef]

He was 55 on all characters like a week ago

[wooden rain]

yeah insane

[winged reef]

That guy must be perma online

[wooden rain]

i can't get one char to 55

[little moat]

yeah he is legit online 24/7

The guy is funny tho

He was telling me I should go DT cuz it does moer dmg then puncture

thanks for the tip!

I envy guys like that who can be online 24/7 and still like the game they play

Idk how they do it

[winged reef]

He’s gonna have a fun time getting to 60 on all 3

[wooden rain]

i don't know if envy is the right feeling

[little moat]

Ehh, he is having fun

Can't blame the guy

Well atleast I hope he is lmao

He is losing it

[wooden rain]

if he's 24/7 in bns and happy, some part of his brain isn't functioning

i'm sure there's a vsauce video on it

[little moat]

A whatnow?

[wooden rain]

too old?

one of those youtube channels that explains stuff in a casual way

[little moat]

Ah...

I dont do alot of youtube

[wooden rain]

11 years ago

[simple jacinth]

Boomer!

[little moat]

I do facebook

Ask Koya

Facebook bis.

[simple jacinth]

🤦‍♀️

[winged reef]

Facebook for boomers

[little moat]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-my-prime-funny-ironic-age-old-gif-11480659

I just follow some anime shorts, memes and some dude with a cool ranch

[simple jacinth]

Boomer Central

[primal hound]

anyone know the timeline of when we're getting the purple lunar slash? the notes just came out for kr right? so def not next patch? cus i don't even see it on yast yet

[winged reef]

KR has had it for a while

We should get it this patch

[astral tendon]

thx to my man Onion lol

[odd dagger]

12th march

[wind timber]

Are you sure it's 12 and not 19?

[odd dagger]

yast has it on 12th

[wind timber]

I mean ye, i just curious what we would get

Cuz 19 is when sum got their focus grab

Would be also nice to have

[primal hound]

wait 12th of march? next year?

[odd dagger]

[wind timber]

We would get patch that was released on kr on 12th march

[primal hound]

oh

[odd dagger]

12th march is when kr got purple falcon and purple tab

[primal hound]

wonder why it isn't updated on yast

[wind timber]

And purple 2!

Don't forget

[wind timber]

Wdym

It is

In a way

[primal hound]

when i click on bm skill books it doesn't show

[odd dagger]

are u checking kr patch

[wind timber]

You need to look for the specific kr update to see this

[odd dagger]

or na patch

[primal hound]

gotcha

[wind timber]

Yast updates only when the patch is already here

Not in advance

[odd dagger]

eye has leggy hammer wtf

[lethal prairie]

@astral tendon bro are you ok

more purple stacks than all other bms combined

[astral tendon]

no 1 pure fire bm

and the only pure fire bm probably

[lethal prairie]

oh yea

true

how high does dt hit now?

[spiral sky]

not enough

need to stacks more

to go brrrrrr

[primal hound]

so based off of the kr patch if we're getting patch 12,03 of kr

that means warlock is 2 weeks after? according to this

[wind timber]

izil does tho, but he has only 1

[astral tendon]

wb performance is a bit meh

[wind timber]

[astral tendon]

tbf

[primal hound]

I'm a pure phys non elemental bm (:

[wind timber]

It's next patch after

[spiral sky]

19 is soulcore patch

it might be pushed

[odd dagger]

cyclone = wind bm

worst case is we get everything upto lab patch

which is before this

[winged reef]

I hope I get my buffed BDR this Tuesday

[solar python]

global release doesn't really follow KR schedule

its likely that Highland Exile, Shadowmoor and Warlock all come out at the same time

[primal hound]

twisted lab and highland is tmrw no? so you're saying they're gonna slapp on warlock and etc too? I know we've been getting more content in patches than kr but i thought it was just tree and exile

[wooden rain]

According to the roadmap wl was its own update

I don't think they'll stray from it

[spiral sky]

wl july

[solar python]

I'd be surprised tbh if warlock doesn't come with next content

[wooden rain]

Could be june

[solar python]

just to boost numbers

[spiral sky]

wl comes with a new bp

[solar python]

cuz no way numbers look anywhere near fine

[primal hound]

im thinking wl will come out steam release

let ppl reroll wl fresh with others rather than be on a server with catchup only

thats if steam release is like next major patch

[wooden rain]

If they release lv 60 + impossible dps checks + new class it's gonna backfire not boost numbers

[primal hound]

yea I agree adding a new class to that content list doesn't make sense

[solar python]

yeah but NCSoft does not adhere to frivolous concepts like logic

[wooden rain]

They adhere to money for the most part

[solar python]

yeah new class = money

[winged reef]

Anyone has the image for dps for each dungeon

[spiral sky]

check yast

[primal hound]

depends on which boss ur selecting but the range is easily 25-39k

[primal hound]

i was pretty close

[primal hound]

def above 25 for highland and just under 39k for lab

[wind timber]

37k lab bruh

[winged reef]

Thanks

[primal hound]

(40s enrage)-> does that mean 40s after enrage? if so dam that boss lasts almost a whole minute after enrage

[winged reef]

I was wondering if they nerfed BSH hp in Korea

[primal hound]

nope its the same

[odd dagger]

i mean 1 purple book + lvls should make anyone clear bsh already

[wind timber]

You can clear it with all blues already, just a matter of stats atp

lvl would be hard to get anyway, you need like 1.2kk exp for 56

[primal hound]

for the majority the purp book should push them into bsh1 if not bsh2

im just wondering if it will push me into tree since im just a blue stacker with 0 viable badges. Not only will I get an actual skill I will have a badge that boosts it as well

[honest haven]

I mean 37k each for lab has to be a joke right?

or is there some way to get much stronger quick

with the update

bsh was fairly doable if u grinded enough beforehand but this feels kinda...

[primal hound]

being lvl 60 alone with the ap boost is big but that takes 3weeks per lvl

at 55 you need real good insigs to be be near 1k ap without a leggo wep

[primal hound]

that will be purp book selection

but it won't magically give ppl like a 20k dps boost

[lethal prairie]

also to get that will take 3-4 weeks

[primal hound]

possibly 2 if you haven't turned in your weeklies yet

yea but there's no such thing as a get strong quick

it's all rng investment, the only guaranteed investment is the triple insig fusions but even then you need the insigs for it

and the gold sink is ugly

[astral tendon]

Lab won’t be a thing for vast majority of the players in at least 6 weeks

Tree would barely be on thing for less than 50 player day 1

[brave pendant]

trying to hit these dps requirements on high ping is so much pain

[grave hawk]

tbh its better to just quit if it come like this

[astral tendon]

i can play for a bit, but once we need to move on from the gear, id probably quit

[brave pendant]

no reason to stay when I'm missing a chunk of dmg from having high ping. new poe1 league is soon...

[woeful venture]

does anyone know if BBR drop rates are getting nerfed with the upcoming patch?

[wind timber]

There's none, just pure struggle

New bns mech, didn't you heard? Try to beat the timer

Rules are

beat the timer

done

[twin lark]

https://youtu.be/f-lI6TOtnWQ

[winged reef]

Still waiting for the patch notes, I'm sure they will come

[twin lark]

Who else has 70ms?

[urban bridge]

🙋

[twin lark]

Let me know your results

[urban bridge]

I'm a lightning player now, I don't have pierce/puncture

[twin lark]

Traitor

[urban bridge]

xD

[twin lark]

inb4 blade strike again

[crude sierra]

@twin lark im 60 which is close enough, i had to change tab and t to 110

[teal surge]

Are u generally highroller in purp skills? Cuz thats the best skill ever

[twin lark]

Damn i just got the magic macro by accident

[crude sierra]

yeah u kinda did

works very well

[twin lark]

Yeah

[winged reef]

Proof or it didn't happen

[teal surge]

Does anyone have info on xp breakpoints?

[winged reef]

You mean for each lvl to 60?

[teal surge]

Ye 55 to 60 each level

[winged reef]

55 -> 56 1,229,300 exp
56 -> 57 1,352,300 exp
57 -> 58 1,487,600 exp
58 -> 59 1,636,400 exp
59 -> 60 1,800,100 exp

[teal surge]

Ig we get 60 after silverfrost at that pace xdd

Since no new exp source

Except impossible dgs

[urban bridge]

lol

[winged reef]

If you stack enough legendary RMBs eventually it will outdps Puncture

What focus skills are you using

[urban bridge]

fissure, vortex, raid.. probably gonna take out raid for another TDS though

[winged reef]

Don’t you run out of focus with only fissure, Onion doesn’t even use raid either and he’s at 54 stacks. I have both Soaring Falcon and Raid and focus is still lacking sometimes

But Fissure might be replaceable with purple Soaring Falcon if you want to maximize stacks

[urban bridge]

Onion has the same build, the only difference he uses blade call over raid. Focus is slightly lacking assuming you can get vortex every 9 seconds but purple soaring should help with that soon

But idk if purple soaring with its focus recovery would be better than just straight up having a TDS book

and just dealing with the focus by doing a few breezes

considering TDS is like 70-75% of the dmg output

[twin lark]

I think it's time for quests to give 3g, i'm broke

[winged reef]

Since most of my stacks are blue I’m not too worried about stacking a lot of them. I’m even using BDr waiting for the boost to see how much dmg it deals + 3s of BD

[urban bridge]

rancor is probably worth using for TDS

[twin lark]

Would be a wild move from NC if they decided to make stacking books to occupy one slot, so you can have as many books as you like without sacrificing iframes, etc

[urban bridge]

TDS needs a place to put skill points in anyway

sun stroke/fissure kinda sucks even with skill points in

[winged reef]

I have mine in RMB, LMB, BC, BDR and Lightning Rod

When I get to 60 the rest will probably go to Tab

[teal surge]

playing hybrid on 250 ms is an experience i wouldnt want for an ennemy

[urban bridge]

Multislash is better than sun stroke for points

[grave hawk]

dont think its worth better to keep bd going

[urban bridge]

when I say TDS I meant rmb not tab, not sure if thats what you thought or something different

[grave hawk]

Mean soaring

[urban bridge]

well soaring doesn't give bd

so the comparison would only be

focus or extra dmg on rmb

[grave hawk]

Depends if you replace blade call

[teal surge]

how much is bdr going for in eu market ?

none right now so idk

[full trout]

low pop server eating good

[tiny sky]

is it a selector book or just a random book?

[full trout]

no idea, probably random

[winged reef]

Blade Call is probably droppable if you have legendary 4, 3s every 60s isn’t much and the damage is negligible

[brave pendant]

I'm guessing it'll go for maybe 170k at the lowest

[somber kiln]

i'm 2/3 blade call on the bound books lmao

[twin lark]

At least blade call is good

Blade strike is trash

[somber kiln]

not even for pvp?

never seen it in action

[twin lark]

It bugs cyclone

Then you can't lmb anymore

[brave pendant]

blade strike is very nice in pvp

parry is a hard stun. people can't roll out of it. they have to tab or risk getting chain aerial combo'd

[somber kiln]

bro got rumblebees for the leg book drop

257K

yikes

[brave pendant]

not sunflower. rip

[twin lark]

Bruh

2.6k usd for a fcking box

ppl are crazy

[somber kiln]

oh no

i should have wb today

DAS EZ MONEYYYY

[twin lark]

HR didn't get any gems, so must be Viridian

[odd dagger]

Pog pure white costume

[brave pendant]

It's from bamboo. Viridian kills faster that

[twin lark]

Bamboo still alive?

[twin lark]

Here we fcking go

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838595060131561503/1376336485514743839/2025-05-05_354Kviews16KreactionsJosephPostingIIonReels_1514968899475159-ezgif.com-cut.gif

I hate this game

[odd mantle]

the summoner that bought it got the worst skill lole

[twin lark]

How much for this?

[twin lark]

Please make pierce/punct aoe, ty

[craggy hawk]

@brave pendant

is there a simple way to account for the "changsu" and "pyungdo" lines in the combat log

the ahk script you made, it just checks the bottom 2 lines?

[wooden rain]

I remember in the old days of bns live, update previews were exciting

Now it's just a sense of dread

[twin lark]

They want it to be a surprise not even NCA knows what's coming

[brave pendant]

yeah it's not even good. I just check the color of the bottom 2 lines which if a fissure / stone slash or anything ticks in between the RTAB T then it can mess it up

[craggy hawk]

selling my stone slash

[brave pendant]

it does successfully stop sending T if it sees 2 white R TABs most of the time, but I don't know what's making it that sometimes it does not push T when there's a crit at the bottom 2

the bottom 4 lines would be 3 whites and a crit on one of the bottom 2. sometimes it sends a T, sometimes it doesn't. probably latency issues

[brave pendant]

I'll leave the stuff in here if anyone wanna give it a shot and can maybe upgrade it further.

[violet elm]

i'd say pin it, but i'm glad none of us would do somethins so foul as to use macros!

[twin lark]

What's this?

[little moat]

Somebody pls tell me this is a purple.

[twin lark]

mouse search and dand?

[brave pendant]

As for the instructions on how to get the pixelsearch thing to work. Make a new chatlog with only your attacks / crits. You can pull it out and resize it. Use the mouse search ahk first. press Numpad3 with your mouse on the red / green dots to find the position. Change the 4 X/Y positions in the Pixelsearch ahk file before you use it so it uses your own screen coords.

Good luck with testing. For me it's like not that much better than just using a regular old macro. Maybe it saves me some focus with pierces here and there. Maybe it outputs more pierces than a regular macro. I don't feel that much difference though.

[little moat]

Oh that's why streamers got their combat log seperate

Good to know

[brave pendant]

Ideally I'd want to see someone with low ping, 20-30ping to debug it. Make it take a screenshot every time it fails to send a pierce to check if there is indeed a white R TAB in the log

[odd dagger]

its blue

[brave pendant]

superior is blue. heroic is purp

[little moat]

My god

[odd dagger]

i can finally finish my 4 sacred beast set

[little moat]

YIPPIE A BLUE CARD I AM SO HAPPY I CAN FINALLY SELECT SOMETHING

[odd dagger]

[violet elm]

in all honesty, i have no idea what the expectation is of me, and if the mental fortitude is there for me to grind to 56. Feels like a race against time for me to give up

i don't see my meeting dps thresholds for the new dungeons before i give up

unless you know, i miraculously get a purple DT

[odd dagger]

dun need miracle , jst get from bp

[little moat]

that's littarly the entire community

[odd dagger]

[little moat]

and a purple DT wont save you

[violet elm]

it will not, but it will be a big step closer, anything really at this game, NC toss me a bone

[simple jacinth]

WEl WEL WEL

https://www.bladeandsoul.com/en-us/news/article/15881/neo-moonwater-plains-part-3-may-2025

who wouldve have thought

4 man Dung

the same info that JP and TW got more then 2 weeks ago

Rownan finnaly posted it yesterday

So sad

[little moat]

Dw guys, More events coming!

[simple jacinth]

DW guys...Surely we wont get 4 man...Guys wait SURELY we wont get 4 man right!

[brave pendant]

watch ads streams. not happening

[wooden rain]

I'm just wondering what the actual dps difference will be from hae to tree

[simple jacinth]

We posted that alreasy 100 times

[wooden rain]

Not the requirement

The difference in dps

[simple jacinth]

no the DPS was posted already 100x times

[little moat]

U loose 40% flat out.

[simple jacinth]

your here al the time and never read it?

so strange

you love to Crap all over it

[wooden rain]

We don't know that yet

[little moat]

Yes we do

[simple jacinth]

yes we do dude

such a bad Doomer you are

[wooden rain]

How exactly? I didn't see any direct comparison

[simple jacinth]

LOOOL

Blind much?

[little moat]

Didn't we get this outfit for free aswell in Live?

I do remember this outfit xd

[wooden rain]

Neither in mathed out stats nor some video from kr that'd show it, but kr is already well beyond in levels so it's irrelevant for them

[simple jacinth]

Bruh

the graph has been posted sooooo many times already

[little moat]

just do more dps

[simple jacinth]

Stahp with the mental Gymnastics

[wooden rain]

I'm not asking for a graph of dps shown I'm asking how it's calculated or known

[little moat]

There has been mathing out and rough estimates based on the previous dps losses going from Poh to Mujin that it's a flat out 10-12k dps loss.

That's why the 34-36k Mujin dmg is the guideline.

[wooden rain]

Which is a reasonable assumption but we don't know if the loss is linear like that

[simple jacinth]

Basicly 99.9% of players cant do Lab

and 98.9% people cant do Tree

👍

[wooden rain]

So i know all of this already, but I'm waiting to see if it turns out correct

[little moat]

12 players in both EU servers combined can do Tree.

They can make 3 parties

[simple jacinth]

OMG

dude clearing partys leggo

gonna make so much money XD on a Dead server

[woeful venture]

i wonder how much does the stat piercing comes into play, ik its not as effective as crit rate and crit damage, but there is some effectiveness

[simple jacinth]

Depends on the class and yeah but its a Overal Stat thing not everything Seperate

like if you have 4K crit and 1K crit damage

its bad aswell

and you wont pull consistent damage

[woeful venture]

i wonder would it be worth it to throw in piercing premiers?

[simple jacinth]

no never

your better off changing Accsesoires

then priming Piercng

[tiny sky]

hey guys, are we getting the heat buff skill changes on this upcoming patch?

[little moat]

If anything you get Accuracy to 2k before your lvl 58.

Piercing sucks

[woeful venture]

yeah ofc i mean i take accuracy as a baseline

like it should be obvious

[woeful venture]

is there like tests done already? ik there was a dungeon u need 4k piercing?

maybe im wrong

ive noticed enemies that have different defenses too, idk tho how much piercing affects on it

like the tortoises and crabs where kaari spawns its like 10-15% damage difference

[wooden rain]

The simple thing is piercing doesn't contribute more than cdmg/cr/accuracy so there's no place to build it

[woeful venture]

yeah remember reading that, i guess crit damage and crit rate too stronk

[lethal prairie]

if I'm still playing when the time comes (doubt) I call dibs on book bundle :3

[astral tendon]

Might as well change that to 100% according to the current math

[tiny sky]

are my ratios okay or is there improvements I can make? this is on hae mujin

[urban bridge]

whats your sun stroke count

[urban bridge]

looks fine ratio wise, just make sure to drop fissure down every 24 sec

[tiny sky]

awesome thank you! :D

[hard iris]

https://i.imgur.com/cOXo6iU.png both are block

lovely

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/salty-block-gif-23750827

https://youtu.be/RfCLX6N2V_Q

Most of his hits are non crit, so i guess having low crit won't be a problem?

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[gilded thistle]

Surely

[wooden rain]

Preparing you for the new meta

[astral tendon]

Tbf

My fm

Lv48

1.5k crit

Hit 53% crit on hae lol

with 95% accuracy

Crit useless confirmed

[hard iris]

pretty sure nobody here really understands what you're refering to 😂

[odd dagger]

do u get some dmg buff for fused fight or what

his rmb was hitting for 9ks on non fused , but 20ks on fused

[astral tendon]

no idea

We will see tmr

[little moat]

Thats fury hits

11k without fury aswell

[astral tendon]

With my 1.4k accuracy and 1.9k piercing surely I can deal massive damage to fused fujin and rejin

[odd dagger]

piercing trash stat, cant change my mind

[astral tendon]

Absolutely useless

[violet elm]

this has turned into a very optimistic chat!

[astral tendon]

I use to be able to coupe on puncture with detect under 0 accuracy basically means your macro never fail

Look at me now

Can’t even coupe that

Dt will just all miss

[gilded thistle]

rip

[astral tendon]

Also pure fire sucks even more at tanking

No immediate access to block, less hits per sec so less drain

[gilded thistle]

Bbbut shiny dt

[astral tendon]

At least I can f block at will with hybird

Block is fine, I macro rf together now, is a bit slow but works sort of fine

Drain sucks on twin

I use to have perma full hp while tanking both with puncture

that never gonna happen again

[gilded thistle]

Just swap back

[astral tendon]

Well I only have 8 puncture now

[gilded thistle]

Surely you'll find two or three extra

[little moat]

I'd so sell your leggy dt and stuff and swap back

Ull have a nice chunk of gems to spend on wb loot aswell

(Not like we all said pure fire sucks wiener xd)

[astral tendon]

is still more damage tho

[gilded thistle]

Sure but is it worth playing if you don't enjoy it?

[astral tendon]

I’m complaining about it, but have to admit is more fun than puncture, probably partly because of how inconvenient it is

Puncture is pretty boring to play

[gilded thistle]

Join the pierce gang then. You'll never get bored.

[astral tendon]

Tho it probably deals more to wb and lower level bosses

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

Y pierce suck, managing buff is not fun

[fickle loom]

puncture with extra steps

[astral tendon]

Also

i won’t ever complain about macro with pure fire

If I get rid of the block macro, I can then start to trash talk ppl who use macro

[green schooner]

block macro?

[odd dagger]

rf

[astral tendon]

I macro rf together

Cos pure fire I just hold rmb

[gilded thistle]

[odd dagger]

too much effort is not fun

[astral tendon]

Tbf is zrf cos I put it on z

And I still want to use falcon to range pull boss sometime

[little moat]

What the hell is a block macro

[green schooner]

at what point do you just write a bot

[little moat]

Is pressing 1 f soo hard u need to macro block?

What if u blocked to soon

[green schooner]

imagine all these potentially advanced bots running dungeons with you

[astral tendon]

Bruh I don’t have f block most of the time

[green schooner]

never dying doing perfect rotations

[astral tendon]

You don’t use lmb

[little moat]

Breh

Just press lb f

lmao

[astral tendon]

Too hard

[little moat]

I swear you can script BBR and auto run it

Just like Mushin

If u remember that F15 shenanigan in live lmao

[green schooner]

mh?

[gilded thistle]

I would just use it to farm Kari

[little moat]

Ppl farmed max hongmoon lvl running Naksun over and over getting a shtton of Moonstones, meanwhile it was just a script they ran when they where sleeping or at work

[gilded thistle]

[green schooner]

oh really?

I remember some very smug players with thousands of kills

[little moat]

Since there was no "wheel" or "essences" like f4 and f6 u could just run in, do the exact same motion and script it all out

And let the script auto run it

[astral tendon]

There are Gubong farming script exist

[little moat]

Ye pmuch entire Play2win did and stuff like that

[astral tendon]

Probably the reason why ToE and Gubong don’t drop blue + core

Cos script for running those exist

[green schooner]

when was that?

when f15 was still relevant?

[little moat]

2016 ish?

Late in the year

[green schooner]

so when it was relevant okay

[little moat]

Ye

It dropped 100ms bundles back then

[green schooner]

I coped that it might've been something at awakening

since cheating went rampant at that time ever since

[wooden rain]

I'd love to see bns players gather for a proper fighting game tournament and see what actual difficult inputs look like

[little moat]

Cheating went rampart ever since ET

The modpolice guy started with putting the ET skills as his own and killing all the auto fishers

Essail killed floor 100 toi in 0.2seconds

[green schooner]

happy to have quit with awakening in 2019 after hearing all those storys from after awakening

[little moat]

This was all pre awakening

I quit after IA raid

[green schooner]

et was not pre awakening

[little moat]

Euhhh, what awakening we talking bout then

xD

[green schooner]

2019

during tt

[astral tendon]

Is not like I play fighting game

[little moat]

Oh cuz there is a patch called "Awakening" in 2022

[astral tendon]

Other than vs ai

[green schooner]

the skillsystem rework in 2019 was called awakaning too

[little moat]

Right after ET when 3rd spec BM released the XML's and cheats went absolutely haywire

Play2win being the driving force

Littarly non of their members played without a boatload of xml's and gcd timing addaptions

[simple jacinth]

Dont forget the 6v6 and 1v1 wintrading

Players like that are a infection you just cant shake

[little moat]

I would almost say Pixel detection and certain ahk scripts are the same as Xml's

Just run a bot at that point and go eat a sandwich

[wooden rain]

Still such a surreal situation to see these statements

Rare time when i would say the phrase pot calling kettle black

[simple jacinth]

Eyyyy thats handy

[wooden rain]

We're going from action combat to Sims

[astral tendon]

Idm auto main quest to 45

or Nc can just sell the lv45 token

[gilded thistle]

Just sell hm pots

[little moat]

Take over freak's job and start multiboxing destros

[simple jacinth]

Omg thats genius

When bots find it a lost cause

...dang

[hard iris]

That bot is so Jank though

[green schooner]

how do you know that

[astral tendon]

Send the bot please

Could be useful when WL release

[green schooner]

be carefulof the bot patrols at world bosses

[astral tendon]

I saw them a few times

Around wheels

Luckily I don’t wheel anymore lol

Else I’d probably be banned and quit

[little moat]

We are homies.

[gilded thistle]

Keep him there so the Kari ones can get to work

[grave hawk]

Tbh the bots were kinda nice cheap dg and cheap essences

[astral tendon]

Cheap essence for sure, cheap dg either came from nc or charge back

Or some deepsea creature who top up directly

[little moat]

Dupe some gems

Oh wait there is a 72hr lock now

[astral tendon]

Ermaell not sure how he will feel

[little moat]

Caera also ruined, gg

No more 80k gem gambah streams

[astral tendon]

I heard from his clan member that he top up directly

[little moat]

Plenty of idiots do that ye

[grave hawk]

Whats top up?

[astral tendon]

Buy gem

[grave hawk]

Oh

Well ncsoft prob happy for that

Steam will take a huge cut

[astral tendon]

Yeah but they basically ruined him

By implementing the 72h lock

[little moat]

hey If u swipe every day

U will still be able to gambah every day

[grave hawk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/516298916044603414/790332165677776926/credit.gif

[astral tendon]

I’ll go f2p in May

No spending lol

[grave hawk]

Do you still have stuff to buy?

[astral tendon]

No

Well bp

And pure white

Other than that no

[little moat]

Euhhh sir

It is may.

U failed

[astral tendon]

Rest of the May

[little moat]

Bish pls thats 4 days

Lmao

[astral tendon]

Gamble is still a thing

I have a certain spending limit per month

Hit that in May, need to wait for June

[little moat]

Challenge: no swipe
1june: failed

[wooden rain]

Are we sure getting dg on steam is possible through steam wallet

[astral tendon]

Maybe if account is somehow linked

[little moat]

Account is linked right

[astral tendon]

Cos you get get gem from NA and spend in EU lol

[little moat]

So that means it should be possible?

[spiral sky]

They already said

Only on purple you can buy gens

No steam wallets shenanigans

[spiral sky]

Karambits are safe

[little moat]

It states "Ncoin"

not divine gems

[spiral sky]

Where's my patch notes @cosmic oak

[little moat]

Don't tag the f'er here dude

[simple jacinth]

Little pee pee rownan is to much of a coward to do his job and post patchnotes cuz he dam well know there sh iat

[wooden rain]

Someone working as cm for ncsoft wouldn't be capable of feeling fear

Feeling anything at all

[spiral sky]

Vegetative

[green schooner]

also how are newbies now supposed to do worldboss

without any gear or bots around

[wooden rain]

You mean field bosses

[green schooner]

[wooden rain]

You can solo at low gear, it just takes a while

Not like they can kill you or have an enrage timer

[astral tendon]

It does take a while

To a point where it is a bit annoying to do

[green schooner]

u cant require that from a new player

[astral tendon]

And melee new bee without life drain can definitely get killed

[wooden rain]

I don't know what kind of braindead mf you have to be to die to a field boss

I don't think I've ever seen anyone die there apart from bots

Potions basically outheal their damage output

If you can use wasd you can survive

[wooden rain]

Trying to get your weekly warning?

[hard iris]

Yea

Expressing my gratitude towards our hard at work staff team

[wooden rain]

You should join kr discord or whatever is used there and annoy kr staff

[spiral sky]

Plz

[hard iris]

I don’t speak their language

[spiral sky]

Share invites

[wooden rain]

Google translate

[spiral sky]

We can think a way around it

[wooden rain]

Or ask chatgpt for a kr copy pasta

[spiral sky]

저는 😀 갑자기 다음 주⏭️부터 새로운 😬 그리고 복귀한 🎽 플레이어들을 도와야겠다는 💁 충동이 들었어요! ❗ 이렇게 오랜 시간이 걸려서야 👫 새로운 🆕 플레이어들이 우리 게임의 💘 기반이라는 걸 깨달았다는 게 🤨🤨 믿기지 않네요. 만약 제가 😂✋ 행동하지 않으면 📃🤤 이 기반은 무너질 거예요.

이 모든 깨달음은 🙌 잠자던 중 😰💯에 찾아왔고, 😱 잠에서 깨자마자 😴 제가 👩🏻 무엇을 해야 하는지 😶 알게 되었죠.

그러니 새로운 💎👑 플레이어 여러분, 저에게 50골드를 우편으로 보내주세요. 그러면 제가 여러분을 👉👌 블러드셰이드 항구로 데려가서 👑🎁 아주 빠르게 😂 크래시 코스를 제공해드릴게요! 🏎️ 배우기도 전에 🚫👏👏 끝날지도 몰라요. 🎓💭📗

"이벤트가 있다고요? 👐👐" 라고요? 😤😂 전 👈 전혀 🙄 몰랐어요. 🌃👀

[winged reef]

Looks like we're skipping maintenance today

[spiral sky]

"Ahh! As i expected!"

[valid cradle]

They posted the last one pretty late too

[jaunty lark]

Ur mom aswell, just in case

[spiral sky]

Thats bdx copypasta

[little moat]

Huh

[solar python]

is there even a korean discord? like this one

I guess they just have forums

[spiral sky]

The main community channel there, is a forum

[astral tendon]

Later they announce lab will be delayed for a week

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/we'll-be-right-back-dr-phil-adam-ray-gif-14199043934451135037

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E12V-oUFtEA

[wooden rain]

i'm not watching that but are you still going on about the steam "leak"

nothing of value was actually leaked

[twin lark]

Wdym? i just found out about this, first time i mention it

[wooden rain]

i guess it's been long enough that i forgot who kept posting it but not long enough to forget that it was posted

[twin lark]

Weird coming from steam to let a leak last this long

[wooden rain]

i didn't watch the vid so i don't know if it's on about the same thing

[twin lark]

Was about games having malware

[wooden rain]

well purple is malware so nothing can get worse there

[twin lark]

[somber kiln]

They’re hiding the crime scene of what they did to the leakers

[stray torrent]

WTB EU

[primal hound]

Wish i made a girl char for pure white

[buoyant pivot]

same

[primal hound]

1k dg for gender change

temtped

[spiral sky]

https://tenor.com/view/go-do-it-yes-no-go-for-it-gif-17183104

[rain nimbus]

There's only 2 genders ?

[balmy tinsel]

does it make sense to use this feature instead of atk or dmg or is it useless?

[craggy hawk]

Useless

[slender kelp]

today i didn't even feel like at least doing mushin, i just logged in and logged out immediately 👍

[wooden rain]

real

[twin lark]

Some days I just login to test a macro

[spiral sky]

imagine a mmorpg live for 4 months without a single patchnotes

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[violet elm]

have we complained enough about the absence of a maintenance anouncement?

can i chime in?

[slender kelp]

always more room for complaining

[violet elm]

excellent, whats going on nc? maintenance when?

is the patch even coming?

[spiral sky]

they used all the AI ​​quota to translate the image

[violet elm]

Rowen is probably in fumes right now

[spiral sky]

found a pleb

[rotund compass]

uwu

[spiral sky]

filty tab stacker

[woeful venture]

enabled the goat

chad tab stacker

[little moat]

@primal hound So when we enabling a real build

[slender kelp]

thank goodness no one ever discovered me ingame

[little moat]

Breeze stacker Celt chiming in

[spiral sky]

puppah battlepass

will enable him

[slender kelp]

breeze? ew

i am boot combo's strongest warrior

[primal hound]

ayo wtf lmao

[primal hound]

bro im temtped to just pick the purple lunar slash u have no idea

[little moat]

Have fun affording that

[primal hound]

book selection

[spiral sky]

if the new skills come with the pb one

[little moat]

It certainly wont

[spiral sky]

dark oud be proud

tho

[primal hound]

i thought we're getting patch march 12th of kr

and in that patch they have that book

tab for life X_X

[odd dagger]

nobody knows what we are getting

only nckr knows

[primal hound]

i love holding my macro and burning my tab recover

[spiral sky]

i hate ice fm skill

for that

the one that frozen you

[astral tendon]

Rownen probably knows but he doesn’t want to tell us

and fck me

[spiral sky]

it aways frozen you because mob attacks, and normally is a multihit, so you proceed to insta tab out in the middle off the attack,getting you CCed without tab escape, because u used in the ice thing

[astral tendon]

the battle pass end

my fm is 3k away from lv30

thought i have today lol

[spiral sky]

swipe 500 gens

for it

[odd dagger]

he cant

bp ended

[spiral sky]

im still have acess to vault tho

[odd dagger]

na privileage

[spiral sky]

rofl

[primal hound]

dam wtf bp ends a few hours b4 maint

that sucks

but yea.. if purp lunar actually comes out tn with patch I might consider it on selection chest

[odd dagger]

wonder who bought 400k from this guy, was 900k earlier

[primal hound]

just cus puncture is more available on the market

[spiral sky]

thats not the play

[primal hound]

well cus i can afford a puncture, im prob expecting the lunar slash to be more at first

[spiral sky]

still

tab will drop hard like cyclone

because the main builds only need one

to work

punc you still need to stack

supply and demand

[rotund compass]

yeh im debating myself if i get another punc or tab

[primal hound]

shitt if purp lunar becomes 5k like cyclone

purp stack inc

😂

[spiral sky]

whats ur ping

[odd dagger]

90 gm tab is the future

30k on hae easy

[primal hound]

me? 21

[astral tendon]

While not having access to tree

[spiral sky]

why you still using tab stacking

on 21 ms

throw a blue pierce there

and you will be doing way more dmg

[hard iris]

laughs in sunstroke

Happy to finally see it drop though

[primal hound]

I've tried it and i don't like pierce with having to deal with bde

my dmg is also more consistant rn

[spiral sky]

you dont need to do bde

[primal hound]

i do 21k on mujin atm

[spiral sky]

to get more dmg

[woeful venture]

a fellow consistency enjoyer i see

[spiral sky]

with ur ping

[primal hound]

also 3 focus usage yuck

[spiral sky]

you get the same tab ratio as only tab/lmb

[primal hound]

i rather wait for purp for the 2 lol

[spiral sky]

pierce is 2 ofocus

[woeful venture]

why dont u play fire BM? u dont like it?

21 MS is perfect for fire

[primal hound]

dt? no not rly i started dt on 36 patch

[woeful venture]

BIS ping

[hard iris]

firebm is to expensive to be worth the play

that's the problem

[primal hound]

maybe it was cus i had no badge

but i didn't like draw stance and having to block/swapping me out etc

[woeful venture]

i mean yeah its expensive, but its op af

[woeful venture]

understandable

[astral tendon]

Is not op

[hard iris]

not really according to nanaya it's still weaker than puncture despite 72gm and leg dt

😂

[astral tendon]

Trust the word from nanaya

[spiral sky]

21 ms can get the same tab/lmb ratio

and using a extra skill

[astral tendon]

fire is dog💩

[spiral sky]

dunno why he dont play

[hard iris]

the only reason firebm ever becomes good is due to GM outscaling

if u stack enough legendary books

with 170GM maybe

KEKW~1

[astral tendon]

60 gm with leg dt

is around the same damage as 60 puncturte

under the same gear

so let that sink in

[woeful venture]

i mean i think fire BM is strong af, specially with how broken sunstroke is, plus its so consistently easy

it allows so much room for mistake

[spiral sky]

not im my case

=/

[hard iris]

Purple Tab is gonna be

ChefCookZorky

[astral tendon]

puncture is way more forgiving

puncture is the easiest build to play no matter how you look at it

[hard iris]

Puncture has room for error, fk up on firebm once

notstonks

[astral tendon]

ping, hand

[spiral sky]

f ping

[woeful venture]

how? the anicancel is kinda difficult to do it constantly

almost like wind kfm

[spiral sky]

get crit

done

[woeful venture]

i personally think pierce/puncture is harder to anicancel

than wind kfm

[hard iris]

the real problem with tthose is crit rate

[woeful venture]

and yeah with pierce/puncture u are at the mercy of crits

[hard iris]

in purple tab we trust

Prayge

[woeful venture]

while with DT u get to afford more CD

[hard iris]

and then u get knock backed

or cc'd

or lagged on

notstonks

[primal hound]

hmm idk ive been doing pretty good as is usually better than most ppl similar stat already

[spiral sky]

because most ppl dont have the same ping as u

[primal hound]

im just prepping to swap once i get the puncture no need to rush atm i think since it won't magically boost me to tree

[spiral sky]

it will

think about

you can do 120/120 in 1 min

as tab+lmb right

[astral tendon]

is basic stance

[spiral sky]

in 1 min you can do 120/120/x

too

[astral tendon]

you have 10% crit from cyclone

and cyclone/tab only 1 need crit

you are fine most of the time

and is basic stance

at least when both is maxed out

puncture is way easier

[spiral sky]

you are playing literally half a build

[astral tendon]

not even a comparison

compare to both hybird and pure fire

i played all 3

[hard iris]

my favorite momets as hybrid bm were the moment when my stance randomly cancled

SmileW

[primal hound]

yea i know discount / half a build lol and its doing great

[astral tendon]

fire face the same issue

[woeful venture]

but the anicancel is kinda difficult, i mean once u get used to it it might be different, im still practicing

[astral tendon]

macro it lol

well i mean if we are talking about no macro game play

pure fire is probably the only viable one lol

[odd dagger]

wait is hs sometimes not boosted after 1 cause its parried and not blocked?

[wooden rain]

anything is viable without macro, you just have to play like a human and not the meta anicancel

[wooden rain]

nah parry boosts it

it's just bugs

[odd dagger]

are u sure though , cause i dont remmeber having boost issue when i had warcry block

[wooden rain]

i had bladestrike for a time and it boosted hs

[woeful venture]

ah

[wooden rain]

now i have parry and i see it boosted, ofc i didn't pay attention whether it's parry or block

but i almost never mistime it so hard to get block instead of parry

[woeful venture]

i mean ofc its easy then if u have a computer doing the playing for u

[primal hound]

is purple bladecall worth slotting in? or should I take it out. I've been using it cus personal book, prob swap it out once i get puncture right? or still viable?

[astral tendon]

macro is pretty much required to do optimal damage if you are not playing fire.

[woeful venture]

then its not easy

like?

[wooden rain]

it's easy if you get a tool that makes it easy, perfect logic

lower the skill ceiling

[astral tendon]

i mean mouse macro is there from the beginning of the time.

[wooden rain]

so are bots and cheats

[astral tendon]

Razer/Logitech things are basically whitelisted nowadays

[wooden rain]

you don't see people calling things easy because they can cheat at them

[woeful venture]

but the build is not easy then

[astral tendon]

well no point to argue then, with any type of gaming mouse puncture is the easiest to play, or with ahk if you are ok with software

enjoy your fire jouerney

[wooden rain]

you do know gaming mice use software? ahk is not special

[woeful venture]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lewd-cat-dumb-gif-7213020066017231983

[wooden rain]

sometimes it's just built into the mouse memory that's all

[astral tendon]

i dont think i even need synapse running for the razer macro to work.

[wooden rain]

and what did i just say

[astral tendon]

and this, with current dps requirement is just not the case lol

or i mean if you just want to play then sure, any build can do blue train.

[wooden rain]

the dps requirement is an absolute edge case, 99% of the time it's not in play

[astral tendon]

yet, the game is bascially farming the new dungeon on the daily basis.

[wooden rain]

don't tell me you can't do hae without macro help

[odd dagger]

2 blue book direct drop today

[astral tendon]

most ppl with sub par gear cant, and they can with macro

i mean with my gear sure, i can

i will do less damage but i can

[deft quartz]

Wts pur thunder drake x2 NA

[wooden rain]

and you don't see people switching macros on and off based on dps requirement so clearly that's not the reason

it'd still be bad, just a necessary evil worst case scenario

but in that case it's a problem with the game that the player can't solve from their side

[primal hound]

with how this game works and the super buffed boss hp the macros def help some classes reach their optimal dps potential to do the content but then you have some classes that you can't really macro at all

don't think you can macro a sunflower summoner

[astral tendon]

you can, but not mouse macro

[delicate bone]

Question:
Is this book actually a dps gain if im doing fire/hybrid? I can animation cancel a tab with the first proc, I guess I could animation cancel a searing slash as well if I time it right and it could be kinda good? but opportunity cost of one 1.8% dps book loss for me

[woeful venture]

i mean i just want to make clear pierce/puncture is not an easy build, fire BM is way easier

[astral tendon]

but that reaches to a grey area

pixel detection and 💩

[wooden rain]

if you want to use one then use dragon crash on fire, on hybrid none is good because you want violent blade always on

[astral tendon]

sum and fm can be fully automated

[primal hound]

its not easy if you're manual i agree, i've tried to upkeep the rotation and i keep messing up

but throw in the macro and voila..

[astral tendon]

you hold 1 button and you just have to move

[woeful venture]

i mean yeah macro ofc, but having to learn the muscle memory it takes time

so im coming from the perspective of not macro

[odd dagger]

even with macro , fire is easier than puncture

[woeful venture]

and pierce/puncture is harder

[wooden rain]

nah

[astral tendon]

from my experience

[wooden rain]

you have no block on fire

[astral tendon]

no

puncture is 20x easier

compare to pure fire

well if you have a tank then is another story

puncture is just much easier to tank

and tank increase your damage instead of fck up your damage

[woeful venture]

is it? u can dodge literally by sidestepping with fire since u get extra movement speed on drawn stance

[spiral sky]

who defuck is Dedrick

[woeful venture]

then go back to place so boss doesnt move

[odd dagger]

u are only having it easy , cause u are able to face tank a lot with drain

[astral tendon]

circular aoe yo cannot dodage

[wooden rain]

draw stance has no movement speed bonus that i'm aware of 🤔

[astral tendon]

i mean

[odd dagger]

but side stepping with fire is super easy

[woeful venture]

u can iframe circular AOE

[astral tendon]

with puncture i block everything

cos i need the cyclone

[woeful venture]

E into Q u are back into drawn stance

and five point strike iframes gives tons of iframes

[astral tendon]

the only part that drain helps is tanking 2 twins at the same time

nobody take five point strike on fire

[wooden rain]

it depends on boss, it's just that most bosses are braindead rn

[woeful venture]

i mean if u dont take i guess u dont

tank*

but it helps a lot with tanking

[wooden rain]

but even bloodmane, you have to e/q triple spin and ss daze, burning 2 entries

if you mess up or get bugged you're locked out

[astral tendon]

bloodmane with puncture is just brain dead

[wooden rain]

and without purple sunstroke you don't have room for standing around either

[woeful venture]

i mean ive tanked bloodmane with fire and is not that difficult is not hard to throw in a koldrak if u need to activate violent blade

[wooden rain]

especially with performance/ping issues

[rotund compass]

bloodmane has such nice timing, wheneve focus low it gives you a yellow to block

[woeful venture]

but i mean thats my experience

i can be wrong for sure

[wooden rain]

koldrak into violent blade is slower than iframe

more dps lost

[astral tendon]

is also slower than 1 block

which is what you have with puncture.

also winter mane

my dt still did do more than puncture on winter mane

[spiral sky]

blood mande, 180 -> sidestep , Spin -> SS into raid -> Stun -> Q

done

[wooden rain]

as said that's exactly the thing, you're burning 2 entries

[astral tendon]

i mean pucnture is just 1 to 1 to 1 to 1 to1

[wooden rain]

so no room for error

[wind timber]

And all the hits in your face? In the span of 3-4 mins face starting to hurt

[astral tendon]

ss and q is something id like to sort of save

[wind timber]

Also dt has long ass animation

[astral tendon]

dont want to use them for iframe unless necesarry

dt hits 2.5 times/s

[wind timber]

You need to stop attacking sometime cuz if that

[astral tendon]

puncture hits 6

[spiral sky]

save for what

u r number1 wb

whos gonna take threat

to f the rotation?

[primal hound]

alright ima try with pierce thrown in today and see

[astral tendon]

well in case of bug, cos i 4 on cd

[primal hound]

had to take out a few tab stacks sadge

[astral tendon]

suprisingly the bug out of draw stance is a fairly normal thing

[wooden rain]

surprisingly? kekw

[astral tendon]

happens a lot

i mean