Blade Master

[jaunty lark]

but none to carry

and also, some ppl have too fat of an ass to carry (even myself kinda lol)

but ye, rewards are meh

[wooden rain]

i carried a bunch of people for CS

but CS is much easier to 5man and honestly feels more important when the reward is significant for the other party

vs ass for everyone

[woeful venture]

i mean tbh CS and BSH1 are the most carriable ones

BSH2 seems hard to carry, unless u have mega whales

and mega whales usually want quick runs

unless the carried people actually do some lifting, like 10-13k dps, it becomes easier

even 8-9k is good too

but a lot of people that need carry arent even capable of doing CS

[rotund compass]

its a mystery that they are able to log in

[woeful venture]

i dont understand

[woeful venture]

btw im talking about the ones that need bsh2 carry

[wooden rain]

basically calling it massive skill issue

[woeful venture]

ah

[jaunty lark]

tbf there is way more ppl doing CS

at least on cinder

[rotund compass]

rewards are amazing, do nothing, get stuff

[jaunty lark]

but ppl cant do nothing where they need to do nothing

[woeful venture]

i mean tbh a lot of people have a salad of stats all around, even being full f2p u can do way better that most players, but a lot of players just dont do research, i mean if u are gonna be full f2p u are bound to tryhard a bit more if u wanna try to keep up

[jaunty lark]

anyway, im talking on cinder specifically

[woeful venture]

and it always feel awesome when u carry someone, they cant even CC and they have the audacity to bid for the drops, i mean i guess i understand, there is no rule that says they cant bid, but come on, have some dignity

[wooden rain]

better yet, random wrong CCs appearing

daze/stun

[woeful venture]

there was this day i carried this person, wasnt getting accepted and they needed the CS clear for 10 mins

the snowfiel day skin drops and the guy bids it and lucky him, got highest roll

i mean is just 800-1000 gems

but still

[odd dagger]

u dont need mega whales

u can carry a 5k guy if u have 3 people hitting 20k on hae

which is not that hard for quite a lot of the regulars i see in bsh2

[astral tendon]

finally, i out dps my puncture on hae

with mr Eyes help lol

so puncutre would probably do more

[slender kelp]

have you tried doing the dragontongue motions irl while you dps i think it would make them hit harder

[woeful venture]

yeah i guess u are right

[astral tendon]

i did shout out dragontongue everytime i hold it

did nothing

[woeful venture]

i wish i had 20 ms and could do 16 DT's per tab and stack my entire being with DT's

[astral tendon]

16?

i have 17ms and can only do 15lol

[woeful venture]

wtf

how

my friend has 30 and can do 16

[astral tendon]

curious how can you do 16dt within 6 sec

[woeful venture]

i mean i have friends that do 16, i cant test it for myself cause, 120 ms

so i just trust them

i do 11-12

so i guess they actually are doing 15-16?

my 12th DT does go outside of BD buff, so i guess it might be that their 16th is the same deal

but anyways idk, im 120 ms

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-rick-sad-sitting-lonely-gif-25485281

cant play my favorite spec withouth losing 30% dps

[odd dagger]

join the slasher gang

[woeful venture]

i mean im stacking TAB with my alt, it really hurts tho to not have a TAB badge

well, not a lunar slash badge

[slender kelp]

i'd like to try slasher if it wasn't so annoying to switch builds

[woeful venture]

its not strong, but it does its job, i do only have 11 GM so far, and i have a lot of space for more GM

[odd dagger]

i mean its plenty strong on its own

but its need high gm stacks

[rain nimbus]

no

[odd dagger]

since hs build is 90-94% hs dmg

[hard iris]

Eyes

[rain nimbus]

30gm tab all you need

[hard iris]

hi Skyuwus

[odd dagger]

hi

[slender kelp]

good thing purple hs crashed so much

i remember it being 16k

[spiral sky]

Dark can say something about

Hs

35k

[odd dagger]

[spiral sky]

try that

[hard iris]

the issue is though, it will always skip RMB unless your Lunar Slash crits, so if your crit rate kinda shtty it's gonna happen you will never have a 1:1:1 ratio unless 100% crit rate

[slender kelp]

i've heard 3.5k crit rate minimum for puncture/pierce 🤷‍♂️

[hard iris]

bloodmane, see the ratios, that will always happen. You won't ever have 100% perfect ratio. Due to crit rate and focus management.
You see I got 288 Cyclones but 243 Lunar Slashes that's because shty crit luck and running out of focus at the end of my rotation

and this is with 3.8k crit rate and crit cyclone

[rotund compass]

no, that cuz your block cyclone also counts to hits from crit cyclone

[bronze bolt]

Dps meter doesn't differentiate between lmb cyclone and block cyclone.

[hard iris]

well regardless, I can assure u I didn't use 40 block cyclones 😂

[rotund compass]

its 4hits per

and i think 10block cyclone is reasonable

[hard iris]

Thonk

the parser must have more issues cuz I see myself alot struggling specially when I don't have V or 3 and bloodmane gets knockdown were I scarble for focus 😂

but nontheless my argumetn stands, can't have a perfect 1:1:1 ratio without 100% crit rate and rmb will always get skipped sooner or later

[patent badger]

Thanks for the help I think I discovered what the issue was

[hard iris]

5% crit rate for purple tab will be goat Prayge

[patent badger]

even if tab crits, the boosted "buff" didnt register fast enough for RMB to hit

[bronze bolt]

You're not wrong, but with 75% crit rate, you can get around 96% of punctures out.

[patent badger]

I was not using Cyclone at that time, so I bought a blue version to test it out

and after equipping cyclone, it works fine

[hard iris]

my bloodmane crit rate was at 68% crit rate thumb

[patent badger]

even when lunar doesnt crit, because cyclone critted, puncture still happens

[spiral sky]

good luck trying get that

3,9k is like 40% right now

on 55 vs 55 mob

[hard iris]

and on a sht run my crit rate is even less, my lowest probably was 56% lunar crit rate

[bronze bolt]

I mean on focus recovery dummy. The standard is 120/120, and it's very doable to get 120/120/220-230.

[hard iris]

focus recovery dummy

ZorkyWhat

[spiral sky]

lvl 45 mob

infinit focus

[bronze bolt]

Well that's why crit rate is so important.

[odd dagger]

i really wanna pump more crit

itsnot fun seeing 55% crit on hs

need that 5k crit rate like onion

[spiral sky]

need to whale on leg ss

🫡

[odd dagger]

jst wait for tree to have leggy ss

[buoyant pivot]

WTB Blackram Illusion Sword PMO

[astral tendon]

puncture number is really statifying on focus dummy

100k/s lol

[spiral sky]

found your disciple @rain nimbus

[dire summit]

is my ratio good?

is there any consistent way to use Fissure with HS? I feel like I waste some focus making sure my HS is boosted

[rotund compass]

"e"? (nvm its only max boost on resist)

[odd dagger]

breeze breeze hs fissure

but to use fissure during hs, dont think so . only pre boost hs lasts enough to keep being boosted while using other skills

[spiral sky]

it will change

just will need to use E

[dire summit]

okk, ty

[twin lark]

https://youtu.be/MtTpK7wP7LA

They fcked up mechs

There's no mech

[wind timber]

[twin lark]

And this boss was one of the must fun to beat

[little moat]

Who said there would be mechs ol

All u do is HMB the pizza

And if u lack dmg, U can get a ranged to jump in the puddle, it helps do a bit off dmg

Woop

[twin lark]

There should be mech, so they can stop making this game a reetarded version of LIVE

[little moat]

Live didnt have mechs either so its w/e

Jump in a puddle is hardly a mech

[slender kelp]

huh

what boss we talking here

[spiral sky]

8 leg gloves

already

only ONE double crit SS

f this drops

[buoyant pivot]

[little moat]

HH tree

Jump in puddle, get saved by piza move on.

[slender kelp]

dont really remember that one much tbh

[little moat]

Ppl be acting like Live dungs had alot of mechs

Shadowmoor was also just range guy bait 1 tentacle spawn and ss back in melee for left right left right 180° pizza

Lol...

[slender kelp]

come on bdx, 95% of the playerbase cant do that

when i think of cool dungeon mechanics my mind always goes to warped citadel and brood chamber

[little moat]

Yeah sure but 95% dont come in here claiming there are alot of hard mechs

Brood chamber egg push was fun

[slender kelp]

shadow gunner went prrrr on that

[twin lark]

wdym HH didn't have mechs? lmao

[little moat]

The pirate boss dung with Soul seperation and hammers also fun

[twin lark]

You prob played it when they nerfed it

That's why you say that

[little moat]

Ive been playing since 2016 so I doubt it

[twin lark]

Then how come you don't remember having to stand next to the flowers in an specific order or it was a wipe?

https://tenor.com/view/liar-jelly-roll-you-aint-nothing-but-a-liar-huggi3z-jelly-gif-10872027311257513358

https://youtu.be/qkXuWj3puLQ

Check mate

Playing since 2016? huh?

https://tenor.com/view/conceited-idk-man-umm-sure-gif-10183510

[little moat]

[slender kelp]

damn eckogen

flashback

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-caught-in4k-chungus-gif-19840038

[little moat]

Homie ur such a terrible ragebaiter lmao

In my day they atleast did some effort

[twin lark]

I don't care if you get mad or not, only reetards try to do that. What i'm saying is they removed mechs, you said there weren't mechs, i proved you wrong and now we're moving on

[little moat]

Yeah the mech was run in flowers and jump in flower to pull ppl, like I said

Hardly a hard mech so its w/e

Remove dumb sht like that

[twin lark]

Wrong again

You just don't learn do you?

[little moat]

There was a dung where u needed a tank downstairs and aim at mirrors with a beam, that was lots of fun

[twin lark]

You have to do it in an order or there was a wipe, the standing on the puddle thing was just to remove the debuff. The real mech was stepping on flowers in an specific order one at the time starting from 2 7 11 4, if you mess it up it's a wipe

You should remember if you were there

And the dungeon you're talking about is the one with 2 bosses, one range one melee

[winged reef]

Anything is better than brain dead dps anyway

I hope rerolling stats on accessories comes with this patch as well

[twin lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idSOcBFTZEo&pp=ygUjYmxhZGUgYW5kIHNvdWwgZHVuZ2VvbiBndWlkZSBtaXJyb3LSBwkJjQkBhyohjO8%3D

[twin lark]

The fact they removed mechs, shows they just don't care anymore

Soul separation mech was fun

Old BNS was fun

[winged reef]

In CN Silverfrost has Asura with the same og mechs, so maybe starting then they'll bring them back

then again Poharan and Chef kept theirs so idk if that means much

[woeful venture]

damm vicks spittin

i miss starstone mines, the mech wasnt hard but fun af

and the mech by itself did 50% damage to boss

[gray void]

[woeful venture]

soguns lament was a fun mech, wasnt particularly difficult, but damm the AP boost was nice

[winged reef]

One of my favourite videos to look at is in SM, banger track too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REHz5EFaGB0

[spiral sky]

eckogen

dam

evildousharm

keroppi

feelsondman

[spiral sky]

cheww chewww cheww

[winged reef]

Hospital only 30 minutes away

[rain nimbus]

trash. got all that crit but no cyclone lmb

should have got a bound one like me smh

[craggy hawk]

yall wanted more mechs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OV10F5srAo

[spiral sky]

im a fire pleb now

w8ing for my purple dt

[winged reef]

Waiting for my purple Sun Stroke

Maybe I'll save gems and just finish the BP day 1

[rain nimbus]

no youre not

skyzee is the main character

[spiral sky]

i changed the nicks

[rain nimbus]

lvl 50

[spiral sky]

i g ot deleveled

everyone who abused bsh2 bug

got deleveld

[twin lark]

This one was fun too. Mechs were the main thing from dungeons, instead of this brainless dps check we have now

[woeful venture]

yeah mechs were fun

i kinda understand somewhat the thought process

like they wanna get rid of mechs cause later on like amara mechs or drowning deeps, !shit like that

i guess are to hard?

for most players

and they are necessary mechs, like if u dont do them

its wipe

they do bring damage ofcs

[spiral sky]

just continue using ez/normal/hard modes

[woeful venture]

if executed properly

[spiral sky]

simple

[woeful venture]

yeah honestly idk why they removed those

could be that they want more people doing the dungeons

and not divide it on groups

cause the average player, might never get into hard mode

withouth being overgeared af

[twin lark]

Even if they are hard, that's the main feature of the game, do mechs right, continue dpsing, complete the dungeon. Instead of just asking for 20k dps or trying to get a whale

[spiral sky]

just do drops based on mech rank soo

even whales that can dps check will be forced

to do

ex

lg accs 2-4%

[twin lark]

Also was fun when they made dungeons force us to stop dpsing cause we would hurt the boss anyway, forcing us to do mech, like TC HM

[woeful venture]

what i do believe is that, they can keep the hp steroids bosses have, but bring back mechs, a lot of mechs did a lot of % damage to bosses

or straight up buffed u with AP

[spiral sky]

yep

spearing the dog

on ns

for ex

even sh1t like this can break the monotony

[woeful venture]

ive always thought it was such a nice thing, u do the mech properly and u are rewarded with % damage

[spiral sky]

that the current stats brings

[woeful venture]

jesus christ the profanity filter is so annoying

like

are we for real, every often some people say the most racist !shit

and i have to constantly circumvent the system to type !shit

but yeah, mechs back would be nice, remove the wipe penalty (idk if it would make them too easy if they do it), and keep the HP steroid bosses, so its still possible withouth mech, or u dont have to do it perfectly every time so u dont wipe

[wind timber]

Idc, do or die mech are the best

It's okayt to remove the mech once dungeon gets really old, but for new dungeons it should be given

[spiral sky]

its because the bless system

imagine plebes doing dungeons

killing boss one

losing bless for that

and getting wiped and wiped over and over again

on the main boss

and giving up

they will 100% complain about the blessing that hey lost to the first boss

[wind timber]

Nah git gud

If you can't do this much just leave the game

[twin lark]

Blessing should be consumed after completing the whole dungeon, easy fix

They can wipe all they want

[rain nimbus]

or

play bpsr

no blessing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpnJpk4xcA

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/we'll-be-right-back-dr-phil-adam-ray-gif-14199043934451135037

[twin lark]

Bruh, indie games making a fool out of 3A games once again
https://youtu.be/54Avz9lEqI8

[rain nimbus]

Tf is this

[twin lark]

Metroidvania

The best genre there is

[spiral sky]

megaman>

stop watching traillers

and carry me on bhs2

[twin lark]

Megaman is a platformer

[teal surge]

Do u remember its name of bosses name ? That was one of my favs aswell

[twin lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idSOcBFTZEo&pp=ygUjYmxhZGUgYW5kIHNvdWwgZHVuZ2VvbiBndWlkZSBtaXJyb3LSBwkJjQkBhyohjO8%3D

[buoyant pivot]

WTB Blackram Illusion Sword NA 100 DG

[astral tendon]

72 dt

hybird is still better

[spiral sky]

rofl

36/36 better?

need to w8 for heat

[astral tendon]

heat probably can catch that.

ill wait for the selector to go 78

now im 72+6

and if pure fire is better with heat at 78, ill change es to this 💩

perfect plan lol

[spiral sky]

@simple jacinth we got a generic you

[astral tendon]

tho have to say

is fairly close now

[spiral sky]

lol

only 1k

on buff stack

difference

i think

meter isnt getting that data

like bd pierce

[astral tendon]

meter doesnt have the stack damage data?

not sure about that

tho, im fairly sure i saw couple of 36k on dummy

but seems like is not on meter

actuaklly no

36k - 38k was with dt badge

and btw

dt badge still sucks

like it sucks hard

no matter what i do, i tab when ever it comes up, or i hold rmb until bd end then time

tab badge still do more damage

dt badge pulling around 66k

[spiral sky]

0,8 ap buff

should be over 1k difference

on ur dt

inst even 1k

its like 700

[astral tendon]

max hit is bugged from the previous parse i think

but is still popo

dt badge

whats even the point of this badge

when 72 stack cant save it

[astral tendon]

my hybird is not full hybird

when im at 1 focus ill go back to hold dt

it also hits 4+ time from time to time

so max hit for both would be similar

[spiral sky]

hm

[astral tendon]

is only these skill without focus regen

hybird might pull a bit more if i use v or 2 on cd

think after i have purple 4, at least hold dt after searing slash would make sense

so hold dt with heat, hybird without.

so, conclusion, for purple book

dt never outscale hybird

so probably just go 36/36

and just salvage all dt badge

is useless

[brave pendant]

That's some neat info

is it finally beating puncture?

[twin lark]

Idk why ppl play fire when punct is superior in everyway

Except focus

[astral tendon]

i mean i beat my puncture record on hae

with 62 stack i think

so 72 should be an upgrade.

but at what cost tho

at least is nice to see no blue books.

when puncture you have 1 blue book at least.

[brave pendant]

62GM DT?

[astral tendon]

72

[brave pendant]

That's a lot of stacks

[astral tendon]

will be 100%+ next patch

[spiral sky]

[astral tendon]

pretty much, also puncture looks 💩

[brave pendant]

72GM DT with legendary finally > 60 GM puncture.

[astral tendon]

is around the same at 60gm

but, with leg book

[spiral sky]

heat buff goes brrrr

[astral tendon]

purple book no, puncture still better

[spiral sky]

but still punc getting purple tab

[astral tendon]

and thats when you play a smooth run

if you fck up once and stuck with no bd, or a random bug hit you came out from draw at wrong tiime

you fcked

but

if someone grab or grapple for you

fck puncture

you go insane there lol

[brave pendant]

well, only with legend DT

[astral tendon]

40k dt on hae 2 times/s

well y

only leg dt

also pretty good in bg with a grabber

ppl die in 2 seconds

[brave pendant]

duo with a destro / summ?

[astral tendon]

would be nice, but only at killing ppl

still useless in term of winning the game

[brave pendant]

yeah it's a pain catching sins

[teal surge]

what can they do if you go into their base and spam killing them xdd

[astral tendon]

i mean they run away

is signle target

is not like i have anyway to make them not run away

we have 💩 mobility

sin blink 50 m away in 1 second

[twin lark]

https://youtu.be/H6sZXlalH_s

[astral tendon]

that would be a nice boost, tbf probably better than the heat buff

also seems like kr changed the block ratio on dt from 27% to 135% lol

so under bloodshade ss the number is about the same.

guess they did their calculation

compare to puncture 38%

but then after you break set effect with leg ss, is st ill 0

[urban bridge]

You have around 130-150 block in draw stance, compared to like 1k in basic stance

[astral tendon]

why the fck i have 0 block on draw stance

[urban bridge]

the puncture ends up getting around double from the 38% bonus

compared to draw stance

from block

[astral tendon]

guess time to get some block from gear

[teal surge]

time to put block primers xdd

[astral tendon]

all block on 5-8 primer

if you minmaxing, you get more from that 135% thing

block crit or block crit damage

[teal surge]

oh u meant base stats

not primers

[astral tendon]

no primer

oh no

not primer

pysche

💩 these names are confusing

or just because is 3am i mixed them up

either way is NC's fault

and 1-4

go crit damage block

[woeful venture]

idk what u people are talking about but i just saw DT badge

is actual dogshit!!

[astral tendon]

is 💩

[woeful venture]

dont use it

[astral tendon]

if my stack and leg dt cant make it work

[woeful venture]

bad bad badge

[astral tendon]

dont bother

[woeful venture]

even if u have 200 GM

fuck! dt badge

is bad

[astral tendon]

well at that point things might change

wait 1 day i have 11 leg dt and test that

probably never gonna happen

[woeful venture]

if they made badges scale off of base damage skill

then DT badge is the best

but scales off of ur AP

so its worst

[teal surge]

bro leg dt or green dt

no diff

in terms of badge

[astral tendon]

i mean GM and skill mastery actually do apply on that badge damage

[teal surge]

cuz its fixed dmg increase

[astral tendon]

so the higher gm you have

[teal surge]

and u dont do more dts when u upgrade from green to leg

[astral tendon]

and you will never stack sun storke.

these 2 % apply to badge damage as well

so if you have more

at some point dt will be better

but to reach that point tho, i certainly dont have the fund for it

[woeful venture]

GM stack doesnt matter for badge tho?

[astral tendon]

it does

[woeful venture]

how

[astral tendon]

badge damage is in here

everything in here is effected by gm

[woeful venture]

its an example

it says AP

35% of AP

even if badge damage is there

its scaling off of ur AP

not skill damage

[astral tendon]

someone tested it, cant remember who

[teal surge]

yea but maybe nanaya meant

[woeful venture]

and the big reason why DT badge is so trash

[teal surge]

its not the badge that multiplies the skill

[woeful venture]

its cause it doesnt take into account the consecutive uses of DT

[teal surge]

but its gm stacks that multiplies the badge dmg increase

[astral tendon]

yeah that

so in reality is like 70% or something

rather than 35%

but still 💩

[woeful venture]

so u are saying the badge damage AP it gets multiplied by GM

[astral tendon]

sun stroke has 1255% lol

[woeful venture]

but the badge doesnt multiply the skill itself, well since it scales off of AP

[astral tendon]

but the damage of that is increased by gm, someone here said they tested it back then, Caera also told me the same

didnt do the test myself tho

so it might be wrong

[woeful venture]

idk i tested both badges

and DT is just complete trash

[astral tendon]

i mean is still trash for me

[woeful venture]

sunstroke is just way better

but i didnt take into account GM

[astral tendon]

but with 200 gm, things could change

is not like anyone will reach that tho

if it is 55% like some other class

[teal surge]

200 gm

[astral tendon]

then is probably more usuable.

35% is too 💩

[woeful venture]

i mean sunstroke is so broken, even if the possibility exists, just use sunstroke

most overtuned badge in the game

and sunstroke is AOE

[astral tendon]

it is pretty broken

[woeful venture]

but yeah i just saw DT badge in the conversation and i had to throw !shit at it

[astral tendon]

judging by how ofter you can use it

even if i go pure fire and delay the usage of it, the badge still out perform dt badge by 2 galaxy

[spiral sky]

#1342436486456414298 message

[woeful venture]

yeah i did the test back then and the damage diffrence was like 20%

20%+

[spiral sky]

Bed time

Cya

[astral tendon]

im tempting to get the damage refect thing on the weapon and troll ppl in bg

but it would cost too much

and funny enough

if i use tab off cd

pure fire does more now lol

then let me get 1 more dt

[teal surge]

that cr holy

[astral tendon]

and es can fck off

is dummy

all my test has around 75-80% i think

so i do 10dt and 1 tab, pretty huge increase compare to 15dt and 1 tab

and 10dt 1 tab out preform hybird on dummy

[teal surge]

yea thats why purple ss > purple dt

also if ur gonna sell es

hmu

im still trying to get my hands on one

[astral tendon]

need a bit more testing and change macro a bit tmr

if 74 stack and that blue fire fliker out perform 2 es consistently, ill sell the es for probably 7k.

[teal surge]

deal

[astral tendon]

i also need a block macro

so i dont need to lmb and f to block lol

with my skill, thats not possible

[teal surge]

unc

[astral tendon]

good thing about pure fire is

i only need to be in draw

to at least do something

even without tab lol

[teal surge]

good thing ?

oh u mean with koldrak

[astral tendon]

is pretty annoying when my tab has 10 sec cd, i have no flock of blade, i get bugged out from draw

y.

ill put one koldrak in

[teal surge]

yea i get u

so relatable

one time i was 20 secs cd xD

[astral tendon]

like with koldrak you can q and just do some damage

[teal surge]

like 20 sec of me looking to boss and hitting him with breeze

[astral tendon]

y

happens to me a few times

sometimes my fck up, sometimes bug

[teal surge]

wait so im not schizo then

i swear sometimes im supposed not to be out of draw

but i look and its breeze pierce

[astral tendon]

i have a few bd friends,

they experience the same

sometime you just came out from draw stance for no reason

apperently is an old bug from bns live

and it happens to everyone in the party

[teal surge]

i was blaming myself maybe i got out of focus without me noticing for a short time

[astral tendon]

you know some macro stop lmb after you have 2/3 focus left

so its impossible to run out

ahk can do that

it just change to hold rmb once you are at certain focus level

[spiral sky]

Rly?

[teal surge]

oh im using xmouse

it def doesnt do that

[spiral sky]

That's a blessing for pierce players

To not vortex

When you already got bd

[astral tendon]

ahk can read screen pixle

[spiral sky]

Hm...

Time to study

[astral tendon]

so just read the color on the focus bar

if it turns grey, change to another macro

[spiral sky]

Hm

[astral tendon]

idk how to do it cos someone did it for me

[spiral sky]

Won't work as i thought for vortex soo

But should be good for basic stance in general

Auto switching from lmbtabrmb

To tablmb

On low focus

[astral tendon]

yeah, thats possible

[spiral sky]

You still have that kinda script?

[astral tendon]

nah dont have the raw scrpit

[spiral sky]

Im in bed,

[astral tendon]

tho the auto switching thing for basic stance

[spiral sky]

Tomorrow i will search about it

[astral tendon]

i didnt bother with it, cos sometimes when you have fissue on

you hit 0 focus but you can still do your combo.

so you lose some dps when you have focus skill

so i just have 2 marco and switch it manually.

[teal surge]

or u can do 2 macros : lmb tab and lmb tab rmb on 2 buttons

[astral tendon]

what i did

but as far as i know

[spiral sky]

For hybrid thats sounds good tho

[astral tendon]

there are some high tech stuff for it as well

so someone did a macro to read combat log picture, translate it to text

then only rmb when one of the lmb or tab crit

if both did not crit it will not cast rmb

they will have a seperate combat log on top of the chat box

never tried it

but it exists.

think i have it as well

but a lot of extra works to do to make it work.

[spiral sky]

Send to me senpai

I want to do some research

[astral tendon]

someone sell it as a packge without the source code.

it works after you have the combat log there and select the log area.

[spiral sky]

FindText

[spiral sky]

Tomorrow i will try that

For the macro switch on low focus

[primal hound]

that would be a crazy macro lol

[brave pendant]

didn't the patch that disabled the original dps meter also kill all combat log reading? image translating the combat log would have to do it pretty quickly to tell the macro what to do next

[spiral sky]

Nop, otherwise 3°party meters doesn't exist

[astral tendon]

you read the picture.

and translate it to text.

not read from the memory.

at least that how the one i have works.

[spiral sky]

Nanaya

Can you see what script they are using

FindText

UI automation

Or something else

[astral tendon]

no, its from some chinese macro seller

so ofc not gonna allow you to see the script

[spiral sky]

Im just wondering what library they are using

[astral tendon]

no idea

[brave pendant]

@astral tendon what mantras do you look for when playing puncture?

[astral tendon]

5 crit rate 1 focus

[brave pendant]

oh only 1 focus

[astral tendon]

i mean blue has like 13% chance

is basically 100%

its on 8 sec cd anyway, no point to have more than one

you attack at least 6 times per second,

[brave pendant]

makes sense

[spiral sky]

Cds is shared?

[primal hound]

Aside from purp cyclone lmb and pucture, what do you guys think the priority order is for purples next? block cyclone? fissure?

[spiral sky]

Purple tab

[astral tendon]

different focus, cd is shared

chance adds up

[brave pendant]

I actually don't have a single +focus mantra. maybe that's why I'm so sad with focus

[primal hound]

that aint out yet T_T

[spiral sky]

F me

[astral tendon]

block cyclone purple.

then purple fissue

[spiral sky]

I got all focus mantras

[astral tendon]

ye you have 100% chance to trigger it every 8 sec

[primal hound]

ok cool that's what i assumed

[astral tendon]

[spiral sky]

Thats poopoo

[primal hound]

focus recovery the go to mantra?

[astral tendon]

just 1

rest crit rate

[spiral sky]

I feel cd is better

[astral tendon]

all mantra, the green value adds up.

[primal hound]

I have a lot of additional dmg equal to % att power lol

[astral tendon]

and they share cd

[astral tendon]

they are 💩

[primal hound]

I know, Im using blue mantras and they get pricey after a few rerolls..

[astral tendon]

crit rate has more expected gain compare to cd in pretty much all scenarios

unless you are kfm

or maybe sin

or you somehow have 100% crit

[spiral sky]

Cr mantra don't share cds right?

[astral tendon]

they do

the value adds up

and there is a cap

chance stay the same

[spiral sky]

But i saw i kr

[astral tendon]

everything work this way.

[spiral sky]

With alot mantra icons

[astral tendon]

yeah, cd, cr has different mantra icon

also some other bs effect

like threat

damage reduction

[spiral sky]

It was all cr

Different timings

[astral tendon]

then im not sure, not suppose to work that way.

[spiral sky]

The cap is 12%

[astral tendon]

yeah, you are not going to reach that with 3 gold mantra

[primal hound]

oh the mantra cr is a flat %?

that's kinda big actually

[astral tendon]

the cap is the sum of the cr mantra you have accross slots

it is

well fairly big

[spiral sky]

You can

3,8% - 4% min and max per

On gold

[astral tendon]

i mean 3 gold mantra on 1 item

i have cd and cr mantra i think, never saw more than 2 mantra buff

at least i use to

not sure if i change all to cr or not

[spiral sky]

You are right

Its 4 icons i saw

Tab

Cyclone

Mantra

Rush

[astral tendon]

mantra are pretty big after you finalise your gear

or you can put some greens to just have some boost

or blues when they are cheap

[brave pendant]

I never bothered rerolling mantras. just realized I don't have any +focus ones.

[urban bridge]

CR mantra is better in most scenarios right now

CD mantra becomes better after you are fully geared with leg soul shields

and have 10k+ crit rate

[twin lark]

How come there's no purp cyclone with immunity too?

Why only blue has it?

[odd dagger]

do you not sunstroke off cd?

or is that lower dps

with that much dt stacks

[spiral sky]

@astral tendon are u awake?

[spiral sky]

i got this

[odd dagger]

oh nvm u did the tab off cd later , ya that was expected for fire to do lower dmg since u werent using tabs

[spiral sky]

hybrid one button macro

no focus issues

poggers

[odd dagger]

time to gamba for soul affinity for big dik dmg on tree

[spiral sky]

any hybrid on?

[spiral sky]

i have a ideia for that, wayyy less complicated.

[lethal prairie]

void and grit for laby

[odd dagger]

lab doesnt exist for me

[little moat]

it'll release in 2.5 months, no worries

[spiral sky]

bdx

do you want a macro that only release boosted rmbs?

[little moat]

Not rlly no

I think ahk macro's go way past the pnt of what a macro should do

It's a grayzone but Imo it's a script and scripts are the same as bots

[spiral sky]

until you are gatekeeping by dps

cause nc netcode sux

they have the tools but doesnt use it

[little moat]

Idk, It's a line I don't want to cross myself

In the end you can fully automate your gameplay using ahk and u only press wasd, wich is extremely dull

[slender kelp]

pretend you're like me and that you can't even use macros because your connection is unstable asf

[little moat]

I got a WTFast trail and my connection is stable now

But it notices it's connecting a proxy server in the US

Wich is prob why we stopped getting ddosed but the connection is ass

[slender kelp]

how recent is that

because for 3 or 4 days now it's been extra bad for me

[little moat]

Last maint

Yep

[slender kelp]

xD

[little moat]

Honestly give me the 2 hourly dc but let me play without wtfast lmao

[wooden rain]

Bruh all macros are essentially scripts

[slender kelp]

flashback to when ff14 suddenly started routing me to new york and back, and my ping went from 60 to 220

i had to change isp for that

[little moat]

In theory sure, but not rlly

Macro is just a sequence of buttons without any actual intelligence, Scripts have alternatives and adaptions depending what's going on

[spiral sky]

any automate repetitive task is a script

[little moat]

Hence why I said it's a grayzone and something I am not personally intrested in 🙂

Notice me not judging anybody about it so no reason to argue about it, thanks

[wooden rain]

The definition of a script does not include any "alternatives or adaptions", it's your warped sense

[little moat]

"Imo"

Almost like I said that myself huh

[wooden rain]

You can't "my opinion" a fact

[brave pendant]

I want it. high ping is already kicking my dps lower than what low ping can do.

[wooden rain]

In my opinion 2+2=5

[little moat]

U can argue all you want, just do it with somebody else

I legit could not care less about this subject

[wooden rain]

Good for you

But I'm not letting nonsense like that slide uncorrected

[odd dagger]

[primal hound]

🤡

[wooden rain]

And there is no gray zone either, any macro is a violation of eula even if it just holds F for wheel

Ncsoft just doesn't care to enforce it

[odd dagger]

its his own moral gray zone

not from NC EULA

[spiral sky]

doesnt work, its hella funcky

[brave pendant]

I think there is a way to make it. either with color search or text search

with the combat log set to only your attacks and crits, search the bottom 2 lines after inputting R TAB so it looks at the cyclone and lunar slash text. If it finds orange then input pierce. otherwise don't

[spiral sky]

tried using the yellow board on boosted icon

at least for high ping donest work so well

[brave pendant]

yeah I don't think that pixel search will do it

have to look at the combat log and look for crits right after R TAB

or rather, look for the color orange within the bottom 2 combat logs

[simple jacinth]

OMG whata noob

[little moat]

Lvl 51

[gilded thistle]

[simple jacinth]

Finnaly hit lev 55...can take a wel rested 2 day break

[brave pendant]

Ok the crit color is 0xDF8502. Just have to look for this color within the bottom 2 lines after R TAB and maybe it'll work?

[slender kelp]

i'm still lv 54 👀

[wooden rain]

I'm permanently lv 54

[slender kelp]

i only log in to do dc 🤷‍♂️

no faction no field boss

[grave hawk]

It takes endless to reach lvl 55

Wish they bring back hm levels

[slender kelp]

wait until the lv 60 grind then

[brave pendant]

I actually got it working

never inputs a failed pierce

desyncs the macros though since there's an empty void after R TAB

[spiral sky]

what u have done

[brave pendant]

well, the cyclone tab count stays the same. way more pierces though.

[gilded thistle]

What are you guys cooking?

[brave pendant]

I'll send you the script via pm for you to try first

[craggy hawk]

the forbidden tech

[brave pendant]

it's no good. actual performance is no different from the regular macro

[wooden rain]

Just put the sleep under the condition as well

[craggy hawk]

less focus issue tho

[brave pendant]

pierces weren't coming out with double failed crit anyways

this still results in missing out on 2 pierces because of desync

[wooden rain]

It consumes focus as soon as the windup starts, not when it hits

[craggy hawk]

ye

[brave pendant]

oh in that case that's not bad then

it's still wonky when there's 2 failed crits

[craggy hawk]

It'll be noticeable on hae

[brave pendant]

sometimes 2 failed crits results in no pierces for a while

sometimes it's like 2 failed R TAB, then another white R but crit TAB. into a short delay into a pierce coming out

just desync things

[wooden rain]

Or that macro is resource intensive/ slow

And color detection is the cause of the delay

[spiral sky]

any hybrid bms on?

[slender kelp]

I'm not a hybrid but I'll help you anyways

I'm feeling generous

[lethal prairie]

yes

[slender kelp]

Nvm

[gilded thistle]

Does hybrid alt count? (A few hours experience)

[little moat]

Chifusas best hybrid gamer

[spiral sky]

you need to edit coordinates

on 2 orb focus

can use this to find ur coordinates

[lethal prairie]

have my own set at 2 remaining focus

but im lazy so also make mine cast tab and 4

not home rn can test yours in a few hours

[brave pendant]

ok well, skipping failed pierces is certainly an upgrade. It results in way more actual pierces being landed with the same R TAB ratio

I guess this is proof that it's somewhat working, although again actual dps stays the same depending on RNG with crits

normally double failed crit results in 2 missed pierces due to desync or whatever, but this shows a pierce coming out anyways on the 2nd rotation with a tab crit

[little moat]

Any murican can look up Nanatsu

thx ❤️

[slender kelp]

Leg necklace is always a jumpscare

[brave pendant]

#1 in viridian WB among all classes

[slender kelp]

Who's that for EU?

[little moat]

Probally help

[grave hawk]

Is the ranking public on some website?

[little moat]

Yes

[grave hawk]

Link?

[little moat]

https://beans.azuradara.dev/

[grave hawk]

Thx

[brave pendant]

Desync still getting to me. R TAB T -> TAB R??

[spiral sky]

There's a original script inside ahk folder,that gives a lot info too, you can get coordinates there too

[worn rapids]

guys, is it better to use purp stoneslash than purp searing slash?
if its for party benefit go for searing right?

[full mango]

Please give me how to build BM branch if I have full purple skill book

[spiral sky]

16 purple tab

1 purple cyclone

1 purple parry

[astral tendon]

Ss off cd is higher dps compare to 15dt then ss

i will probably get rid of parry at some point

Who needs hmb?

Trash skill

[vapid rivet]

[spiral sky]

@astral tendon #1357788582617813132 message

What u asked

[astral tendon]

Oh, i already have the auto switch macro on focus for hybird

Thx tho

Also probably not gonna use it anymore, pure fire now

Since pure fire more damage

[vapid rivet]

@astral tendon rdy to carry me next patch ?

[astral tendon]

Where is my leg dt

[little moat]

I stole it

[astral tendon]

You get 2-3 of that I’ll be ready

[vapid rivet]

u know what I got ytd

5% so hard bro

[astral tendon]

apparently dt loves you

[vapid rivet]

i should just stop

[astral tendon]

So I won’t be surprised that if you hit a leg chest, it is a dt

[vapid rivet]

no pls no

[little moat]

DragonThunderSlash

[astral tendon]

the game is dying

i cant find any of this on f5

wtf

[little moat]

Don't buy that crap

Moare DT

[slender kelp]

yes bigger number bigger damage gogogo

[spiral sky]

Because thats insta salvage skill

[astral tendon]

i need fck up prevention

i suck at the game

[little moat]

Thats a Vortex

Not a koldrak

Koldrak is just bad

[astral tendon]

it also gets the heat buff mutipler next patch

id rather have koldrak then vortex.

[tiny sky]

what are good counts for a hybrid parse for dt+es / second?

[wooden rain]

Koldrak>vortex

Also just check in the evening not day

[sage tulip]

too far

[astral tendon]

never thought id have trouble to find a blue bm skill

[vapid rivet]

@astral tendon i have it

Wait me home bro

Lucky I didnt salvage it :)) . Cuz its hard as fk to find in f5

[spiral sky]

Drawn stance bug is already too much to kick you out of stance, it needed a handcap for lazy plebs

[sage tulip]

might aswell make a script for whole rotation then and hold one button

[spiral sky]

U mean simple mode?

[sage tulip]

idk what simple mode is

[astral tendon]

i mean

the macro can also use flock v, x 4 automatically

[sage tulip]

thats what i mean

and use sunstroke perfect timing

whats the point playing then

[gilded thistle]

The friends you make along the way!

[neat solstice]

anyone have a puncture macro with low ping?

[spiral sky]

Auto combat is the way to go

If you don't know what im talking about, its sarcasm, bns added at somepoint one key rotation macro and even a bot in the game

[sage tulip]

[wooden rain]

Funny how this is turning into macro users vs non macro users

But for some reason macro users vs other macro users

[sage tulip]

i mean i use ahk

but i feel like

theres gotta be a line somewhere

i mean idc anyway

[green schooner]

these ahk macros are already getting out of hand

[sage tulip]

ppl can use whatever they want, not my business

[wooden rain]

Well you say that but it impacts development, at least in any game where devs pay attention

But even ncsoft seems to be designing sh*t around macros for some reason

[gilded thistle]

Wait until you find out blizzard designs raids around weakauras

[wooden rain]

Whatever that means

[simple jacinth]

Yeah prime example is WoW indeed

How can you be supprised at this point even have macro and weak auras in FFXIV majority pretends that they dont exist

[sage tulip]

i mean idk why are we comparing macros about game mechanics with macros/scripts for combat rotation

[hidden pawn]

Bring back simple mode for bns neo xd

[sage tulip]

yeah click one button and go afk

seems really interesting

[gilded thistle]

Intense gameplay

[hidden pawn]

I mean yea its nice to not have to macro

Plus u still will need to use v and all that other stuff

[sage tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-bye-chat-cya-chat-fade-fade-away-gif-3987174201863773381

[hidden pawn]

But be nice if it did dt/es or lmb tab rmb

[little moat]

There is still a difference between a macro and an auto combat script.

It's a line I won't ever cross myself but yeah...

[gilded thistle]

If the mechanics keep you busy sure lets hold that one button, but they removed those aswell

[hidden pawn]

The simple mode on live is op af

[odd dagger]

i jst need 5 sums in pt , so i can hold rmb and hit 35k on hae

[gilded thistle]

225ms Damn

What a chad

[green schooner]

where the heck does he live

i had 180 to korea

[fickle loom]

hasnt worked out the exitlag/lagofast tech

[astral tendon]

i mean this is bull 💩

i do 100k on dummy

should i post a viedo and farm views lol

with puncture

[fickle loom]

absolutely

[gilded thistle]

Your gear is not the average bm gear

[astral tendon]

i can say puncutre broken, 100k/s max DPS

[astral tendon]

good to see my man is slowly coming back to the reality

[gilded thistle]

Long way to 1.5

[odd dagger]

the new slasher guy dropping 250 dg per posting to kek

[astral tendon]

is 1 only one 0 away

[gilded thistle]

Like the icerain person. Sold it for 2.5k instead of 25

[astral tendon]

wish that was me

my alt still playing blue dragonchar

[gilded thistle]

My alt embraced blue hybrid yesterday. After a triple bound book shaft

Feels so chill compared to pierce

[little moat]

Nanaya, how much dps u did on wb with punc vs dt?

[astral tendon]

i never open meter on wb

[little moat]

Fair play

[odd dagger]

koldrak purple when

[wooden rain]

how does one not triple check an expensive item after posting it

[astral tendon]

this

i need the purple flicker

[gilded thistle]

Beats me. Expensive mistake to make.

[hard iris]

50k dps on dummy Clueless~1

how jebait do u want it to be

YES

[hidden pawn]

He does burn then stops lol

[winged reef]

I’ll jebait more

“LIGHTNING 70k DPS”

[wooden rain]

wow sun stroke is dropping a fair bit on the market

[winged reef]

Still 16k

[jade merlin]

how does skill points exactly work in terms of dmg calculation? im running HS build so really not a whole lot of other important skills other than hs and lmb. so really im throwing points into like f cyclone, fissure, stone slash and soaring falcon. wasnt sure if lower dmg skills but lower cd and used more often are more worth it or harder hitting skills like blade call tho dont really use it often are worth the points more

[wooden rain]

yeah but 2 and not sold, 16k is usually the kind of price you'd get asking directly instead of market

[gilded thistle]

Appeared 15 and 14 last night

[wooden rain]

well blues gonna have 10% drop rate in 2 days so i'll just buy for 2k

kekw

[winged reef]

Another purple RMB stack or purple Blade Call? Decisions decisions…

[stuck ibex]

Hi guys, how many max hits can you get with DT+ES in 6sec of BD Buff?

[wooden rain]

12/11 i believe

[little moat]

Everybody prepping for puncture selector 🙃

[gilded thistle]

I hope they were not neglecting their crit stats

Cause I have bad news for them

[little moat]

Ehehehe

[gilded thistle]

[stuck ibex]

i hit max 26hit but DPS is the same with pure FIRE

[little moat]

I had 4k cr 1k cd as hybrid

[wooden rain]

you're supposed to use as much tab as possible

[stuck ibex]

TAB reset time remains unchanged in both pure FIRE and HYBRYD

[wooden rain]

then you either have 50 dt stacks or you're doing it wrong

[stuck ibex]

I only have 15 GM of DT, even though it seems like I'm doing something wrong but I can't do more than 13/13 hits and the DPS compared to pure FIRE is sometimes a little higher and sometimes lower.
I'll try again anyway, thanks for the answers.

[sage tulip]

are you using tab off cooldown?

you cant do 13/13 in one buff window

[stuck ibex]

I don't remember, I'll do some tests later and post screenshots

[astral tendon]

is like 8/8 then a tab