#Blade Master

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north burrow
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now ur gonna be hunting for mushin forever

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while never rolling him

gilded thistle
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I have like 6k essences to go through

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prayge

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Then all usefull pupa i fuse will be given half price to bms here

grave hawk
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please roll some TDS

winged reef
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If this post gets 20 likes I will quit the game

little moat
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Lmao DC

gilded thistle
nova lotus
autumn nymph
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o7

nova lotus
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half way there guys

fallen remnant
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helping out our friends

main ridge
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coming to bm chat to end this man

autumn nymph
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freedom

gilded thistle
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o7

nova lotus
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Ted is sweating ighth now

winged reef
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Yes, soon I can finally quit... for today at least

full trout
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quick, edit the message to make it say 200 likes

gilded thistle
gray void
nova lotus
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ayyy we did it

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you can always count for bois

gray void
stray torrent
brave pendant
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We did it! Bms united

wooden rain
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Doesn't count, these are imposters not real BMs

winged reef
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Maybe I quit and go back to Live

wooden rain
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Nah we roll to steam

graceful oak
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u can go back to steam

wooden rain
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Kekw

graceful oak
gilded thistle
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steam

graceful oak
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and quit there aswell

rain nimbus
wooden rain
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Nah man i heard steam is following cn

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Trust

winged reef
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I go to Steam

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get Purple Sun Stroke

rain nimbus
winged reef
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Maybe then I can finally do BSH2

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surely

teal surge
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guys is it ever worth popping pots and multi poh for card since i got chef ? (current smite is 17ap)

wooden rain
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We can go f8 cross server, moonwater cinderlands BMs unite kekw

full trout
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can you f8 purple dng now?

wooden rain
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Can you not? I've never opened f8 in neo

rain nimbus
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holy fk

full trout
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last time i tried it was only blue in f8

rain nimbus
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its 5pm on a weekend

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game dead LMAO

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NA server nooo

gilded thistle
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or people already got their statics and farm mujin

wooden rain
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Alright but why are you in game

gilded thistle
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I'm trying to help as many people as possible clear this

winged reef
brave pendant
wooden rain
brave pendant
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The requirement to clear mujin is still pretty high. Need coordination. High dps or bleed. A ranged for shadow bait. There are limited number of people that can even clear it.

brave pendant
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More effective to whisper invite specific people that exceeds the requirements through past experience, rather than posting for pugs and trying out new ppl that might not make min dps

rotund compass
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@gilded thistle waiting in the line to at least have seen it once kanna_wave

gilded thistle
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1 condition, pass on wig/twin costumes and card.

rotund compass
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well if that all what it takes lmao

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i mean i prolly can clear ez just no frien

winged reef
rain nimbus
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@spiral sky

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@spiral sky

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where u at

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damn im broke oof

brave pendant
rain nimbus
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i wonder how much i would have to swipe

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to get back on track

little moat
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Bro u left the game for 3 days

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U actl ike u left a year

full trout
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and in that 3 day the market crash now all his tab books are worthless

zinc pewter
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Save some money for steam

little moat
rain nimbus
hard iris
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Addicted man exposed

little moat
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@gilded thistle I see what U ment with the last 30% on Mujin

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Blocks where Giggle

rain nimbus
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how much it would cost to get a real build going

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purple puncture, fissure, cyclone block

little moat
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This is me atm Dark

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No blue punctures so went with Tab

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untill more come avilable xd

rotund compass
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should have stacked bladestrike for better cd

hard iris
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nice blade strike

brave pendant
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Get pierce instead. Prices plummeted .

rotund compass
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cuz more bladestrike is more bladestrike (edit: im idiot bladestrike doesnt get cd reduction)

gilded thistle
rain nimbus
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while im on medical leave unpaid

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hard pass for now lol

hard iris
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didn't paycheck come in

rain nimbus
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im not working

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i got a knee effusion drained 3 times this month idk whats going on

hard iris
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damn u don't get sick leavemoney?

rain nimbus
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i havent been witht he company for a full year

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i can get pretty much every book but the purple puncture with just 1 more 100 swipe

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purple fissure purple cyclone focus recovery idk what else you rly need

little moat
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This pmuch

rain nimbus
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i should use blue selectors on?

little moat
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If u go pierce its the same thing but u want some BDR generators

brave pendant
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Just play pierce for cheaper

rain nimbus
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no

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i got the purple lmb

little moat
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U want purple lmb for both

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So thats good

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U can run with blue fissure for a bit if you need too.

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Purple is nice but I am using blue atm just fine

spiral sky
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I was fishing

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Give me 30 min

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Going take a shower

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Bdx on pierce?

rain nimbus
spiral sky
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Need vortex for pierce

rain nimbus
spiral sky
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Temove rush

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Stack more punc

rotund compass
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also remove kd

spiral sky
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Kd is good

rain nimbus
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ide prob want 2/z

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books

hard iris
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remove everything just use puncture ez

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I saw infinite focus hacks

brave pendant
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Rush is good tanking scarlet. If not then could remove

rotund compass
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tbh in bsh1 u can prolly get away without z 2 and 3, alot of yellow to block

rain nimbus
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we know it will have focus issues

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so ill go 2/z

spiral sky
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Trade rush for shoulder immunity

brave pendant
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Z is a must. Shoulder also very good if you can land it

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Rush is optional.

rain nimbus
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is stone slash required

rain nimbus
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virus

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why you got blade call

spiral sky
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Dmg

rain nimbus
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no

spiral sky
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If could stack pupah

rain nimbus
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????

spiral sky
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I go puppah punc over it

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But i cant

rain nimbus
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you linked me

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blade call with puncture

spiral sky
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Yep

rain nimbus
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???

spiral sky
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Because 1 purple bladecall > 1 stack blue punc

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1purple stack > purple blade call

rain nimbus
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yeah im not going blade call

spiral sky
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You should stack purple pierce over one purple punc

lethal dew
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Anyone selling sunstroke NA? Please pm me price if you’re selling one tyyy🙏🏻

spiral sky
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Cheaper

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More dmg

rain nimbus
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im not managing a buff

spiral sky
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Just play stacked pierce witch cyclone

rain nimbus
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stack purple pierce

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no bdr

winged reef
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Bro can't manage his rotation let alone a buff

brave pendant
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stacked pierce is actually very good with some black dragon

rain nimbus
lethal dew
void ermine
void ermine
primal hound
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Tab stack for life

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Can't do much more till I can actually afford a puncture or maybe some pierces lol

rain nimbus
primal hound
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Me

rain nimbus
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i want to see what a tab stacker looks like

spiral sky
primal hound
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I was gonna link his profile too LOL but I ain't home

rain nimbus
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this is tab stacking

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and not even good

rotund compass
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mah boy its glorious bns_blush

rain nimbus
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im not even good

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i have no double crit accessories but a trash necklace

rotund compass
rain nimbus
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my stats suck

winged reef
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Should have whaled on good accessories maybe then

rain nimbus
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where are they

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not worth

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no ring

winged reef
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True Siren

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Legendary only give you extra AP

rain nimbus
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i mean

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sure

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but

winged reef
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Better have perfect Siren than average Legendary

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And much cheaper

rain nimbus
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kr can reroll accessory stats

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like we can with bsh ss

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you think for now i should go true sirens

spiral sky
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get double crit sirens

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and only awakens for now

winged reef
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I know, I’m waiting for the same thing. But since you’re spending money might as well have gotten gotten accessories

spiral sky
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and hold on true

primal hound
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Unless we are getting rerolls as well in the future for accessories

winged reef
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KR got it

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We might get next patch or in 2

primal hound
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Grab a 1 crit piece for cheap and just rr it in future?

rain nimbus
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i want @spiral sky earring

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bad

primal hound
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My gear sucks too

spiral sky
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dm me

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ur offer

rain nimbus
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what u want for it

spiral sky
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🤑

rain nimbus
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usd

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rmt

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oof

spiral sky
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111cd base earring

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thats nice

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not gonna lie

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i dont have valor stones

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to remove skills tho

rain nimbus
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who doesnt have valors

void ermine
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@lethal dew btw try posting in the new thread #1364402009381539860 for sunstroke since the bm chat gets flooded the most

rain nimbus
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i need to get on this and gamba blue

spiral sky
jaunty lark
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wat dis valor stone fever

obsidian cove
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good stuff, I think you're on Heaven's Reach too if I remember right

rain nimbus
spiral sky
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whats ur offer

rain nimbus
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I only accept or decline

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High key I need to go double crit sirens

spiral sky
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like this one?

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im think i will true

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this

rain nimbus
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People already requiring 850+ AP and I'm not there

hard iris
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just make your own group

rain nimbus
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I would have to up bottom purples just to meet that

spiral sky
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lol

rain nimbus
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If I go true siren instead of legendary

spiral sky
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first try

bronze bolt
spiral sky
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dogship upgrade

void ermine
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Youre nearly there

rain nimbus
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I'm missing one special AP

spiral sky
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3,7k cr now

rain nimbus
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Everything else is ap

bronze bolt
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damn

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you ignored my friend request

rain nimbus
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I'm on mobile

bronze bolt
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😎

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im in

rain nimbus
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congrats lol

unreal oriole
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will Boot: knockdown ever stun or nah?

bronze bolt
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if cast on a defending enemy, yes.

unreal oriole
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so its better to use meteor strike to always kd

bronze bolt
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it's rare for enemies to defend. the first ones that come to mind is junghado and scarlet during kfm stance.

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meteor strike has like a 45 second cd, no?

unreal oriole
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yeaaa

rain nimbus
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meteor is so high cd

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i used to like it

bronze bolt
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boot knockdown is fine

unreal oriole
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thank you guys!

full trout
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if you are worry about boss boot doesn't stun boss, only kd

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basically anything with a cc bar boot doesn't stun, just like lightning rod doesn't daze, and parry doesn't stun

loud hinge
spiral sky
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@rain nimbus @twin lark bsh spam time

twin lark
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I'll be on in an hour

rain nimbus
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im here

spiral sky
rain nimbus
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im not good enough for your group

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never got an invite

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rip

rain nimbus
spiral sky
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what

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im w8ing for vicks

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to start it

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doing dailies until that

long tulip
rotund compass
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i just realize, did crit cyclone and focus rec cyclone get merged in the parse on the parse thingey?

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or am me dumb

spiral sky
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shouldnt

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different ids

rotund compass
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its kinda looks like tho

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thats why my lmb tab ration looks always wierd

spiral sky
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post that on azuras bug tab

rotund compass
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i asked cuz others should have the same no - just wondering

spiral sky
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i tought that they filter by skills id

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but it seens that is by name

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sir

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use more u lightining rod

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@brave pendant inpersonation

rotund compass
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shh i know idk why i keep pressing

brave pendant
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yeah use more lightning rods

spiral sky
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dam

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i need stone slash

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gonna try sell one pierce

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for that

brave pendant
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2 lightning rods per flock makes it do 4/5th highest dps

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only stone slash is equal / slightly above it

spiral sky
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im really thinking to make a macro

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to use it

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after i press flock

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just because of you

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to never forget

bronze bolt
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looks like a bug

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i only see one line

brave pendant
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I just cleared hae. stone slash and lightning rod both around 3% each

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54, 1449 accuracy. still only 99% hit rate

spiral sky
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why flash step disappear if u do 180 graus

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after SS

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that s***t alwasy bugs me

teal surge
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guys i need help

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just got 220 drain set the bsh one

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and dont know which set to get rid of

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i have wintermane set and 117cd onrush set

spiral sky
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@rain nimbus

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i have a perfect build

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for you

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life change build

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9kIQ

north burrow
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sunflower summoner?

spiral sky
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the best build for him

teal surge
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this is my choice atm and got one on the left idk if its worth to put it

spiral sky
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remove detect and get rush rush

teal surge
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im still missing on haemujin btw (well idk after lvl maybe not anymore)

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feels bad to remove that 174cd set but it is what it is ig

spiral sky
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i mean for the effect

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rush would do better than detect

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in your case

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but stats wise

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is different

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thats mine

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dogsh**t stats

rain nimbus
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wtf u mean double rush

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these dont stack

teal surge
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who said double rush

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oh

rain nimbus
teal surge
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i get it xD

spiral sky
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dark

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listen to me

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pay attention

rain nimbus
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listening

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paying attention

spiral sky
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forget aboud CD

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go ALL WIN on CR

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and play with purple breeze

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and blue puncs

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stacks of blue punc

rain nimbus
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drugs

north burrow
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what are u even saying

spiral sky
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vicks on

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lets go bsh

rain nimbus
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im not on

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im torrenting stuff

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🏴‍☠️

spiral sky
urban bridge
rain nimbus
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im not gonna go with a rmb

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until selector

spiral sky
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log in

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lest farm

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some purple books

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and legend glvoes

rain nimbus
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that isnt possible

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if you said green

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sure

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ive seen 0 purple books in all of my runs ever

spiral sky
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saw like 6

twin lark
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@spiral sky ready to roll

spiral sky
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log in dark

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lets go

rain nimbus
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no

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im torrenting

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and on bad internet

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im on at&t and get disconnected all the time

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i was playing for hours where were you

spiral sky
rain nimbus
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plus im watching asmon play expedition 33

urban bridge
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good game

rain nimbus
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games a hard pass

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huge l hard pass

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it turned from 34 to 33 and the girls gone. i wanted to stop right there and forget the game existed

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(dont spoil me)

spiral sky
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ohhh

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my luck started to work

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and theres celt

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3 purple dts

twin lark
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man i don't get those books

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CR?

spiral sky
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never

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CD>

twin lark
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fr? i'm low though

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3156

spiral sky
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fine with cyclone

twin lark
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ok

spiral sky
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holy

spiral sky
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you never see those in these days

twin lark
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I did some multis with him the other day but i think he was lagging, dealt 7k

spiral sky
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i mean

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he doenst have multislash

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for some reasing

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i cannt talk on party char

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ohhh sheeet

twin lark
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it's happens, go back to char selec

spiral sky
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BM time

twin lark
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BM SUPREMACY

spiral sky
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fm its just for bait

twin lark
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lmao

rain nimbus
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if theres a neo 2 or another bns game

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i low key might pick fm

twin lark
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I'll stick to BM and always will, since i don't like range classes and tbh i've never played any other class

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BM lover

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Des too slow, sin is for pussies (no offense i just hate them) and kfm carpal tunnel

wild monolith
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how do i use electric saber with DT? that sht is a dps loss, do i need to macro it a certain way?

somber kiln
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had the same mindset too lol

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rrtr helped me

spiral sky
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need to quit

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cant talk yet

twin lark
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ok

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coming back?

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Everyone left lmao

spiral sky
twin lark
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Progress

spiral sky
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whales

urban bridge
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its rough out here among NA BMs

void ermine
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Anyone free to link a green book build ? I'm curious what bm starts with.

urban bridge
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I need to party with a summoner

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for wb

spiral sky
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minmaxer

urban bridge
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instead of going without a party

twin lark
urban bridge
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in wb

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idk if thats because I crit more or like summ def reduction did something but yeah

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can't tell

void ermine
spiral sky
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flicker variant

urban bridge
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used up my valor stones

twin lark
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damn

spiral sky
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good luck

urban bridge
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time to see my 3x purple take flights

spiral sky
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if punc

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donate to me

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😄

urban bridge
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dang all that and its only 31 blue books

craggy hawk
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def reduction should be for everyone

urban bridge
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I don't run out of focus ever though

craggy hawk
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regardless of party

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o

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i assumed wrong build

odd dagger
wild monolith
wild monolith
odd dagger
brave pendant
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Come to viridian for freer top 5 / top 10s

urban bridge
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lol anyone want a breeze

spiral sky
twin lark
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NA

urban bridge
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Honestly they should have stuck with 1 big server

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instead of 2-3 servers

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now soon to be another server on steam

void ermine
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They should've done like live and just have region.

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Na or eu

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Pick 1 bns_nervous

urban bridge
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I mean live originally had servers too

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multiple in fact

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it just got merged overtime

twin lark
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The steam thing is stupid, the excuse is they can't catch up in time. Just make an event that's only for steam accounts, give them lv 50 gear and problem solved, it's just bs to milk newbies

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Clueless newbies

urban bridge
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tbh if they give

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the steam server the exact same rewards

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as they did with KR's catchup server

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the steam servers progression will be better than majority of the players in our servers progression lol

twin lark
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If that's the case, those who are just starting, will make a new account there and get better stuff than what they already have

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No biggie

void ermine
spiral sky
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nca and events

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doesnt work together

rain nimbus
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dw next neo when tencent takes over will be loaded with events

twin lark
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Man i wish

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NC folding to Tencent

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IF the BP rework actually makes the game good, then there's hope for BNS if they get it

odd dagger
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yikes BP

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that game is dog pile now with tencent remake

twin lark
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Apparently not

odd dagger
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i mean i saw it

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it was dog pile

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sh tty mobile mmo which looks good

twin lark
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Aren't all current games mobile though? that sht ain't disappearing

odd dagger
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not if its a good one with depth

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u are never getting a 1:1 blade and soul in mobile

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or lost ark

twin lark
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Yeah but BP was already made for mobile but in a bad way, so there's no change there, still a mobile game but reworked

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Idk what's dog pile about it now

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Didn't play the original

urban bridge
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I heard alot of good things about the tencent BP though

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but then again bandai namco BP was just trash

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so

odd dagger
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the base game was good

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but everything else they did was bad

urban bridge
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Vick? LOL

twin lark
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My cat ran over the keyboard lmao

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Too much sharing

slender kelp
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it's too late, i already saw the cats

twin lark
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KR has the % on stats?

spiral sky
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feet pics when?

twin lark
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1k

full trout
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how much dps you need to have on blood maine to try poh dad?

urban bridge
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Like 19k

slender kelp
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glad to know i technically qualify for hae but i'm probably quitting before i ever step foot in bsh2 lmao

brave pendant
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19k sounds excessive, but if learning bsh2 completely new then yeah probably need it

urban bridge
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I mean if you are a veteran that has no issues dodging hae aoes than you could have less

full trout
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i only get 19k if there's summ bns_shy

spiral sky
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Hittitng the old man is the real gatewall

odd dagger
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Depends on lvl to if u were hitting 19k on blood no sum on lv 54, then u will only hit 16k on hae

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But at lvl 53 19k is prolly lower than 15k

full trout
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i failed my bns lore bns_scream

teal surge
little moat
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Bladestrike has to go

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Its joever

slender kelp
sage tulip
young cedar
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how much dps i need on cs to go bsh1?

twin lark
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Man i wanna hit the 20k, maybe when i get 6 pierces

full trout
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just get purple pierce easy

urban bridge
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probably closer to 17

teal surge
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what do u think is a belt with 102 cd 41 piercing should be worth ?

twin lark
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100

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depends more on slots tbh

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both skills and mantra

teal surge
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3 skillslots n 2 mantras

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are u sure its 100 ? thats some high cd roll no ?

twin lark
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nah on belt it's maybe

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100-150

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Try 500 maybe someone will buy it

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the ones selling rn have 60 and they going for 100-200

urban bridge
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belt is pretty cheap if its not double crit lines

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since everyone does cs

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cd pierce would be worth something if it was a glove/bracelet

teal surge
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and what's a true neck with 126 cd and cr psyche worth ?

twin lark
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This is weird, sometimes i deal a lot more than other runs

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Makes no sense

urban bridge
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uh not sure about the true neck

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did you have a summoner in the party vick

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having a summoner with strike: defense down is about 10% dps gain

twin lark
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I just did 2 runs with the same sum

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Last run i did 17 on thrasher

urban bridge
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hmm

twin lark
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Maybe RNG crits?

urban bridge
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you can just compare the 2 runs

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see number of hits/crit etc

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see what changed

twin lark
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1 sec

teal surge
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mites dmg does boost that btw

urban bridge
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not on the new meter

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unless you have the bosses only unchecked

teal surge
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yea thats the thing

twin lark
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i have boss only

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Well can't compare now, meter broke

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This happens from time to time

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Delets all my encounters

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And the only way to fix is closing it

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Anyway, the only explanation i can think of is rng crits

sage tulip
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you can import logs

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unless it deleted that too

twin lark
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Yeah it deletes everything, but this happens when an update gets pushed

teal surge
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65% is pretty huge imo

sage tulip
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oh

odd dagger
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Maybe ur sum decide to use his c

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Too many sums who never use c

twin lark
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Hmmm could be

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Yeah cause i'm assuming they are using it all the time

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But if they aren't might explain it

sage tulip
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i managed to make my game have 1 fps, if i alt tab it goes to 30 which is limit for background

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wtf did i click

twin lark
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Repair files?

sage tulip
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i was just jumping around and opening ui

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😭

slender kelp
#

restarting the game would prob fix something like that

sage tulip
#

probably

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yeah all good

twin lark
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Weird af

sage tulip
#

are you comparing

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thrasher to mane?

twin lark
#

I'm comparing thrasher to thrasher

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last run and this run

sage tulip
#

what 19.3 and 20.5

odd dagger
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U might be getting better crits on Puncture instead of cyclone or something

twin lark
#

I don't have puncture

sage tulip
#

just check skills yea

odd dagger
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Pierce, same thing

twin lark
#

So it's as i thought, RNG crits

sage tulip
#

or maybe you also played a bit better

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or worse

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had more bdr uptime or less

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could be a lot of things

twin lark
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I played as usual, as if i was tanking which i was but even if i wasn't i'm where the tank is

sage tulip
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i mean if it rly bothers you that much, you can record ur runs

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and see exactly how you played in each

twin lark
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Too lazy

primal hound
#

How much purple soul cores going for on NA nowadays?

twin lark
#

mane is 10k

primal hound
#

w

brave pendant
primal hound
merry prairie
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yay happy for u boomer

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Share my macro with Chifu maybe she will beat EBO then

little moat
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Does it work the same for Pierce?

merry prairie
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Yes

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Probably Chifu already has a better one since they still play

sage tulip
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i bought saber for 10k

little moat
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Nicu!

sage tulip
#

but that was with sum

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mujin

merry prairie
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Just stack es at that point lmaoo

sage tulip
#

i am alr

merry prairie
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Needs more purple es

sage tulip
#

nah

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just need purple dt from selector next patch

primal hound
#

is it for sure or u praying

sage tulip
#

im coping

primal hound
#

i'll cope with you

sage tulip
mortal mango
#

i need a cheap true sword for my alt if someone selling pm

twin lark
#

GM 10 on pierce, still need the purp one but this is all i could afford for now. Not bad dps, need to test it in dungeon but not rn cause sleepy time

odd dagger
#

finally back home , got to test the magic macro POGGERS
B>Puncture

twin lark
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More dmg with less hits, puncture really is op

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Wait you don't have puncture

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Damn

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How did you do 32k with way less hits than me?

odd dagger
#

uh thats just no skill points white pierce

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lmao

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no badge

wooden rain
#

you know stats exist in this game right

sage tulip
#

😭

odd dagger
#

the blue is not pierce , its lunar combo

twin lark
odd dagger
#

ya, you can just look at cyclone dmg diff

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my char is like 17% stronger than urs

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  • higher crits to
jaunty lark
#

Tab powah

slender kelp
#

@odd dagger

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why isnt he just asking you directly 😭

grizzled gale
#

another fallen soldier joins the tab stackers

odd dagger
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once u go tab stacking , u wont go back

somber kiln
#

all the bms i used to look for on gear progression are quitting D;

slender kelp
#

90 GM tab when we get purple?

odd dagger
#

yes

slender kelp
#

hell yeah

somber kiln
#

hmmmm

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whats the highest bm can go without it breaking

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60?

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gm level

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on any spec

odd dagger
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what do u mean

somber kiln
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like

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does Anthem have the highest GM level

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i mean yeah can just calc the slots to know whats the max

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but that means the class doesnt slot in any other book

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which is bad

north burrow
#

Which build are you talking about

somber kiln
#

just wondering the workable limit

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any

sage tulip
#

highest ive seen

slender kelp
#

i imagine some builds have more slots free for stacking than others

north burrow
#

Puncture has 13 slots to stack with

slender kelp
#

pierce has around 10

north burrow
#

So 72 GM (assuming no legendary)

somber kiln
#

I see

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wonder how much KR has

odd dagger
#

normal dt

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can also have liek 16 slots?

somber kiln
#

wonder if we'll be getting soul/talisman/heart/pet on Neo...I hope not D;

slender kelp
#

i remember seeing a guy with 102 gm on one skill and 60-ish on another

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same build

north burrow
#

KR still has 18 slots

north burrow
slender kelp
#

yeah it was on kr

north burrow
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16GM per book

solar python
#

I saw a BD from Korea with 216 GM on Wind Sever

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its like 13 legendary books

solar python
#

almost 10k crit stats and 12k defense 🫃

winged reef
#

NCSoft balances dungeons for these kind of people

jaunty lark
#

mAN I LOVE SKILL STACKING

winged reef
#

That’s why these crazy requirements exist

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For them it’s a walk in the park

urban bridge
#

oh wait thats an old screenshot hes even stronger now

slender kelp
#

can't believe that ppl were saying that the gap between f2p and p2w was SMALLER in neo before the global release lmao

winged reef
#

The gap between gear is insanely bigger in a short span of time than live ever was

solar python
#

in live you could at least grind to catch up

sage tulip
#

untill trove released

winged reef
#

I had max weapon twice in live, in neo that will never happen

jaunty lark
#

ye

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but even after trove, it still wasnt this gigamassive gap

#

it become like that with time but

winged reef
#

Trove never gave you gear only mats and gems

valid cradle
#

Live cost really skyrocketed with mythical soul/heart etc.

somber kiln
#

dawg

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evolving bottom row on live is cancer

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jfc

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that made me quit entirely

jaunty lark
#

it wasnt on release tho

somber kiln
#

like it was ok on accs but the bottom row just seemed impossible as a f2p

solar python
#

even then though

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you could grind mats

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you could grind gold

jaunty lark
#

hear meant jackshit

solar python
#

were you ever fully on the same level as whales? no

jaunty lark
#

maybe soul was a bit relevant

solar python
#

but you could compete

jaunty lark
#

but hear and talisman were by far the lowest impact

solar python
#

in Neo? There is literally no way to compete with a whale with the skill grandmaster system

valid cradle
#

I mean

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Should that be the comparison

somber kiln
#

soul was the biggest

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out of the bottom row

valid cradle
#

Like youre not comparing yourself to pre-ban Leitna on live

winged reef
#

At least I could complete my build

valid cradle
#

Shouldnt compare yourself to legendary skill people on neo either

winged reef
#

In neo I have to get lucky rng just to one day hopefully complete it

somber kiln
#

and i mean

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ik you gotta grind the tokens to buy the accs

#

but at least i knew what stats it was coming with

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not rng upon rng

#

rng drop, then rng slot, THEN rng stats on it, and possible rng mantra if people cared about it

valid cradle
#

Yeah the rng upon rng is excessive

winged reef
#

Rng psyches

solar python
#

single accessory has like 8 levels of rng

winged reef
#

On Live psyches have a defined stat, and every time you use one they always go up

somber kiln
#

yeah

valid cradle
#

Remember when mythical levels could downgrade

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💀

somber kiln
#

yeah that was cheeks

drowsy palm
#

Yep and leitna was a Lucky boy

somber kiln
#

rerolled your levels

#

who even thought of that

solar python
#

its what baffles me the most, in 2016 we got bns with slight changes, one of the main ones was that our upgrades are more expensive but guaranteed

valid cradle
#

The wasted potential is quite sad

somber kiln
#

like im here for the combat, and only that. We need someone to take over this IP

#

and not be braindead

valid cradle
#

The thing I dislike about live rn is that you have a million systems

somber kiln
#

yeah

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hard to keep up

#

but i enjoy playing my full class

solar python
#

Tencent is already doing bns in china so hopefully ncsofts stock keeps falling and maybe they can yoink the IPs

drowsy palm
#

They added to much , but also Old Stuff is easier to get with this Battle pass stuff

valid cradle
#

Its a shame the skill book system barely ever leads to truly unique playstyles

winged reef
#

It is convoluted

#

But also quite simple

#

Get mats try to upgrade, if it fails or not just move on

drowsy palm
#

More diversity

solar python
#

the skill book system actually streamlined the playstyles from og bns

#

there is some diffferent styles

#

but the styles have very defined books

winged reef
#

You can have different styles with the old system

solar python
#

in og you could do some wonky skill setups and still do fine but in neo you have to play the right skills with your main damage skills

drowsy palm
#

In live you were forced on spec by bracelet for example (pre patch ) . So you could Play only 1/2/3 . In NEO you have more

somber kiln
#

yeah but live fixed that by making it easy to switch between

jaunty lark
#

skill tree in neo is good

winged reef
#

Nowadays gear changes effects on build

jaunty lark
#

skill book is bad

somber kiln
#

idk how Neo is "correcting the wrongs" but didnt make that an option

jaunty lark
#

even so compared to current live skilltree

winged reef
#

Switch at will at all times

valid cradle
#

When do we attach a blue book to mystic badge to change specs

jaunty lark
#

builds should always be freely changeable imo

valid cradle
#

Agree

somber kiln
#

yes

#

even if we gotta evolve our books instead

#

get one

#

then level them up

#

like the main one

#

not the stacked ones

valid cradle
#

Should just be one book per key

#

No stacking

somber kiln
#

i mean, they gotta make money somehow

winged reef
#

Costumes

valid cradle
#

Theres always cosmetics too

winged reef
#

We have 1 every 2 months

somber kiln
#

seems kinda lazy

valid cradle
#

They could do like 10 per week forever if they really wanted to

somber kiln
#

or just get a set rotation

#

but we're too deep into the cesspool

#

i here China is like a completely different game

#

more QoLs

#

prolly why Mistx switched

slender kelp
#

yeah nc managed to make tencent look like the good guys

#

cuz tencent manages china version of the game

jaunty lark
#

there is a trillions ways to make money on games

#

that just donjt touch the main combat system

#

firstly costume, and more so on such a giga coomer community like the BnS one

winged reef
#

The gooner community

jaunty lark
#

"but man, ppl dont care about cosmetics" if they say this coming fomr a freaking asian coomer wannabee market

#

but i guess half of the marketing dpt and game design dpt share half a braincell at most

somber kiln
#

i find it weird they made cosmetics linked to gold

#

and badges

#

so odd

solar python
#

cosmetics should just be the main monetization

jaunty lark
#

and the fun thing about cosmetics, if they build the commuynity, they would not even fcking need to work on it, just do costume contest so the coomers can submit the coomers skins like lost ark

solar python
#

just make them 30 € each

#

there is enough cosmetics for a decade of rotations

jaunty lark
#

and dont get me wrong, i belioeve there should always be like a 5% oof ur potential that its giga grindeable or hence, whaleable

#

but issue is when that 5% becomes a way bigger number

wooden rain
#

levels are fairly and equally grindable and also no way in hell am i gonna grind that much

#

especially when it comes to multiple characters

#

if you want to have 2 characters you have to sacrifice your life

somber kiln
#

lol i stopped that

#

the mental aint worth

#

takes up too much time

#

for the employed

wooden rain
#

i reached lv52, dropped it, restarted to get to 53 so bsh2 is fine, then dropped again

#

and i'm never grinding again i don't care what next patch brings

#

alts perma lv50

somber kiln
#

if they drop the dungeon as 4man with everyone quitting already

#

gonna be tough

jaunty lark
#

dps chheck gonna be high regardless of 4 or 6

wooden rain
#

well i have my own master plan

#
  1. wait for next update
  2. drop purple, wait for steam
  3. new class, get to bsh
  4. drop again
#

also we're 3 weeks into the patch and decent accessories are still nowhere to be found

#

profane essences are 10dg each rn

#

wait for every player who would farm them to quit, then ban the bots lmao

winged reef
wooden rain
#

2 birds 1 stone

winged reef
#

Bold of you to assume they will launch WL at the same time on Steam

odd dagger
#

its just na

#

tw/jp/kr gets outfits every 2 weeks

wooden rain
#

if it turns out wrong i'll adjust my plans

#

what about tw

#

heard they still got queues but because of bots

winged reef
#

I only had queues in EU the very first day

wooden rain
#

the more surprising part is that people bother with it

#

most people i played with went there a few times, decided not worth, and skipped, same as me

#

well eu and na are the same

#

na has sa, eu has lots of other english-speaking countries

#

or not, like russians

jaunty lark
#

man, i need a class that nukes ppl in aoe

#

too many idiots on skyheaven bastion

odd dagger
#

tw simply has less people quitting cause of "p2w"

#

they are used to grinding and having whales

#

the purple book market in tw is crazy

#

a lot of our 5k skills are like 2k or less there

wooden rain
jaunty lark
#

NA is also not the best reference for prices

#

u guys are just straight up drunk

wooden rain
#

NA is just full of people who choose to grind overtime rather than grind the game

odd dagger
#

ya na is just dumb

wooden rain
#

spending money doesn't increase the amount of purples in the market

odd dagger
#

no idea which server u checked

#

these are DT

#

blue SS is 300

#

so is EU and NA

#

this is ES

#

ya the expensive books are insanely expensive there to

#

since they stil have whales

#

punctures are 50k

#

but the only thing u need to look at is the supply

#

this is purple SS

#

what is blue tab

wooden rain
#

wonder if they just have bots farming books

slender kelp
little moat
sage tulip
#

ye mujin is fine

#

just twins are annoying

little moat
delicate bone
#

So in the updated neo stat calculator, what exactly does this number even mean:
Is it seriously suggesting I am doing 30.92% of my 'potential' damage to an enemy at 1500 pierce? Cause if that's right, then isn't piercing an insanely busted stat? I made my own spreadsheet for figuring out optimal stat distribution and it ends up telling me that 2.36 piercing is worth a whole 1ap, which doesnt sound right at all

#

likewise acc doesnt make sense to me since that calc says 1500 acc => 147% hit chance, which cant be right

little moat
#

I didnt even kow there was a sheetl ol

sage tulip
#

i dont even know how to use that calc

delicate bone
#

there is none, made my own

#

like it makes sense to me cd and cr wise

#

doesnt for piercing and acc tho

little moat
#

Cuz we dont know the exact values

#

So yeah

wooden rain
#

31% sounds more like enemy defense reduction or something like that

delicate bone
#

but then the calculation is much more complex 🤔

sage tulip
wooden rain
#

it's an mmo with a bunch of dumbass systems thrown in because why not

#

you shouldn't expect it to be simple or make sense

delicate bone
#

oh im not, was just hoping that the calculator was already taking most things into account

#

since it'd just take an hour or 2 of sitting at bsh2 trying out different gear sets

#

and figuring out the effect of each stat more precisely

#

tho I guess its so boss-dependant they just left it at some sort of base value and then its up to the user to apply it to each boss... Would have been nice to at least leave a few reference boss 'final' values coded in to the calc

jaunty lark
#

there isnt really a reliable calculator

#

but regarding acc, ye. On live you had to have 118% or 130% accuracy for certain bosses

#

like "base value"

#

so i assume this calculators shows u base value (in case its even correct)

delicate bone
#

so just need someone to make a table of how much is needed for each current boss 🤔

jaunty lark
#

depends on lvl

delicate bone
#

well ye, assuming l55

jaunty lark
#

as long as you are not doing same dmgs as the dummy i guess, but ye, there isnt gonna be a correct number sadly

#

some ppl used to say 1,2k was enought

#

others jumped to 2k

wooden rain
#

2k what

#

is that naryu lab or something

little moat
#

Lmao

#

Why dont u just get 10k accuract

#

Im sure thats nough

delicate bone
#

also I got a question regarding scale ripper and pierce BMs

#

ran into a curious case where a pierce BM didnt like me using ripper in bsh1 cause it was lowering their dps (they get less attacks to block). To me it sounded a bit extreme, since would prolly take only 1 person to get dazed to offset the dps loss

little moat
#

Its true

#

If a pierce or puncture guy cant block the focus recovery situation is dire

delicate bone
#

so sounds like an optimziation that only makes sense if all 6 are godgamers

little moat
#

But dazing once every 45s isnt that big

delicate bone
#

how long can they dps after a block before they need another? I saw some windows where I could just

#

allow an attack through and only then ripper

#

so it wouldnt hurt em as badly

little moat
#

Purple cyclone regens for 5s (not 9)

#

Fissure regens for 4s ish

little moat
#

I do that with Mujin, Block the attack then KD

#

So i cna activate my cyclone and have it cat pinned

#

Best of both worlds

bronze bolt
simple jacinth
#

GL finding new ranged

wooden rain
simple jacinth
#

selling mah stuff on Market

#

its tragic at this point

slender kelp
#

at the rate players are leaving, there won't be enough BMs opening purples to sell me my damn pierces

simple jacinth
#

Yep GL, Progress is Swiping

#

even Worse then Live ...didnt know that was possible

sage tulip