#Blade Master
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you're playing an mmo
yea with my wife
mmos are made to be social games
btw that's what you see it as
you're encouraged to make friends and group with them
from our view you can just consider it retrospectives and discussing what-ifs
and if that's not the point of this channel then its point is to be dead cuz everything BM has been discussed 10 times already

BM channel is just a chatroom for BMs 
ye
I would never play an MMO solo
Haha... me neither...
i have never started an mmo or anything similar solo in my life
And last time I pugged was wrath of the lich king on wow
I was playing till last tier
you don't do random sh*t on alts?
even in games you CAN easily pug content with it's just more fun to play with friends
i've seen people who prefer pugs cuz they don't have to stick to a schedule
@civic lagoon come play with me bestiee
that was me when i played xiv years ago lol
never again
i still pug, cant make new friends if u stick to same circle
only time we'll start a solo mmo is when full dive vr comes out
I'll never forget that raid. We pull the boss, next thing I see is a mage next to me on melee hitting the boss with his staff
battlemage 
keep it simple:
- keep your hp above 0
- hit it 'til it dies
Tho i admit. Im also on the side of playing alone unless someone pushes me to socialize lmao
looks like you never did ultimate raids
If u smol fish then im a rock un der the sea
I've done them all except FRU
It's just not hard to learn and be consistent in the game idk
anything in ffxiv is extremly easy, all of it is so extremely scripted you can have simple ai plugins making solving stuff for you
Only dif we have with live is that we have ridículous amount of stats, (and so does the bosses)
everything is easy if u know what u are doing
What is an example of challenging mmo raid (dont need to be bns only)

Also that, dont expect a DS lvl of boss on a damn mmo
well all games' difficulty is artificial so there is no such thing as a hard raid 👏
since telegraphing has become a norm any mmo has become extremely easy
Tomb of Sargeras
Ds is easy wdym
I said DS, not hecking elden ring
Yes easy
early days of bns didn't have all those telegraphs it has now and actually had u to look out for text lines and enemy movement
Dying of success, too good for the game
what you mean like all the human bosses in ruins and mushin
Yup

Nailed it
4man dungeons removed yellow attack warnings
Sekiro was a bit hard at first

you could make things hard for yourself
take off all hp gear
or go full party with broken weapons
ye
that's not difficulty, that's just making content impossible 
requiring stupid gear levels isn't
Rl1 mujin party let's go
honestly i practically never break my weapon but doesn't it just mean your wep has 0 ap?
In a game with gear that's impossible to achieve though. Plus eventually you're doing everything right and it gets boring
oh actually nvm it's just soul core you cant use
well it depends? if you play with a party that just barely meets the dps requirement, it is the case until people get better gear
it's what happened to our clan this patch since it's full of plebs
one dude gets knocked back once, gg
if I do 17k dps at CS, what would I be looking at in training base?
then it'll be on the bigger side
alright lovely thanks
i mean bigger difference, maybe i said it with ambiguous meaning
as for the 2nd part, that applies to literally everything
so i don't know what you even want to be said there
Yea but there are levels to it. And class rotation isn't something particularly complex when you're doing it all the time
you'd be surprised
kfm for example can reset his searing palm instead of using leading palm and f*ck his damage really hard
without the boss even doing anything
the more factors you have to look out for, the more likely you are to make mistakes
consider buff uptime, big cooldown skills, focus management, boss rotation in relation to your counter abilities (and what bonuses they give then), yadda yadda
it's the same thing with reaction timing, reacting to one of 2 buttons in 200ms is easier than reacting to one of 5 buttons in 200ms
Well in Live that was never an issue that caused wipes, it was always the mechanics, which imo are harder than simply doing your class rotation
right well mechs are something you do all the time as well, it's just that they're somewhat more dungeon-specific
200 runs with mechs or 200 with no mechs will make 0 difference in the end
i would say with knowledge mechs are actually much more forgiving than the combat itself
Even as Lightning that takes a lot more work to play properly it's not like I'm being challenged by playing it
that rolls back to the gear level argument
whats your ign?
i just saw ur thicc char
btw how much dmg do u do with lightning on hae

@spiral sky @brave pendant @odd dagger pardon me, its my 1min parse on focus dummy after stack gm4 blue pierce + gm9 blue tab
where honed slash
is that
unlimited focus dummy
we jst need 1min of
lb tab rb only
yes unlimited focus dummy like skyze ask, thats 1min
Lucynius
just do 1 min off lmb tab rmb
I meant class rotation wise
oh just lmb tab rmb, my bad
well you might be if you were fighting a boss you're not used to
you're much more likely to struggle than someone with an easy build
but still, you could technically play perfect from the start sure, then you're just that good at the game
in that case mechs will be no issue to you as well
First few runs sure anyone would struggle, but you'd adapt quickly and only the mechanics of that boss would make it engaging
or if it had a really cool attack pattern
hardest part of most mechs were coordinating people
but when everyone is good at doing it
Either make the mechs hard or the attack pattern of the boss hard
its piss easy
In content with more people yea
That's why I always prefered 4m
i would say hae is pretty hard
Less people, the harder it is because you rely more on each person
for the average player
you could have something like poh with both technically i guess kekw
those random meteors which needs proper iframes from 40% is pretty hard
Afaik they take forever to come down if it's the same as live
@spiral sky @odd dagger @brave pendant pardon me.
it still needs precise timing
if u e too early
u will eat it
if u e too late , u are dazed
it's less than a second
The 8 iframes from Yeti were harder than that
if u are good at iframing perfectly everytime, u are simply good at the game with great reflex
the only thing that makes meteors harder is the fact that you need to dps at the same time, the more relaxed your party is on enrage, the easier they become
Provided you have decent ping, iframing is a basic skill
ya those are terrible counts
u need to tweak ur macro
u are missing like 40-50% Dps
wouldn't it just be his crit rate that makes him miss the pierces?
thats so low
its lunar tab count thats low
i cant ani cancel faster than that.
alr try but it wont work
120hits, dang
u can , u jst need to use skyze's magic macro
at 150 , u should be having like 1.5-1.6 tabs/s
pierce can be ignored cause it varies with crit
but it should still be like 1.xx/s
nvm it's a bit more than a second seemingly, just that in gameplay i don't usually notice the red immediately
Yea they're definitely not that quick
graphics messing with visibility
Everyone always had time to dodge back in the Nightshade days
dang, the ping really affect that much
ill try to rework later
it feels faster than it was in live
though i definitely can't trust memory there
you can see here for example
https://youtu.be/UUPRMk2umYw?si=qrZFRceXFMi4nNdc&t=203
it looks like it takes right around 1s or a bit over
Macho Macho man~ -- Watch live at http://www.twitch.tv/flowroro
Looks like the same to me
ya most people end up being like that guy
jst waiting to iframe
instead of dpsing till u need to iframe
ye idk i'm not gonna count frames, it just feels faster in gameplay as i said
cuz you don't notice it immediately
It's just for reference for the bomb
some red aoes are faster at times on mujin for some reason
Thought everyone was using a macro, what else are they looking at
yes

some feel slow
oh
that's the delay between them, not the actual startup of the attack
I was gonna appear here to be annoying and mention PVP but NEO did a pretty good effort removing a lot of the skill there with RNG cc resist
oh and just
ya know, removing PvP in general
whats a pvp? 
pve and pvp difficulty are different worlds
The worst thing about BnS
never to be in the same convo
idk man that's still skill books for me
I mean BnS in general, not neo
but i'll take the joke
For me that is
ofc, I never really delved much into PvE until NEO so I don’t have a leg to stand on but other than raids I never heard anyone say any of the mechanics outside of raids were challenging
maybe foundry iirc?
Eh, pattern is quite basic
If you're undergeared it can be tough
and the players are useless
that basic pattern f*cks up people more than any other boss probably
you should see kfm missing some of his core skills on poh movement
I miss some occasionally when I don't have aggro
and don't lie
you've been hit by the jump daze
everyone has
it also makes aggro very awkward in the first seconds since you don't want to use committing skills
Yea usually because I'm trying to squeeze in more attacks before she does, but my ping varies so sometimes it's not possible
I always wait for her to start throwing aoe bombs before using blade and call and 4
and when i started poh i was going with 2 kfms, all 3 of us with very similar dps
poh switching aggro right on airborne gets you hit every time
More of an annoying boss than hard though
it's a thin line
probably my favourite boss in neo just because of the f*cking around we did
better than the other 4 purples aside from hae
Definitely the most fun in Neo but that's not saying much so
It was the same way in live though
Unless you were doing 4m you had hearts to spend and bosses had long enrage timers
I think i only remember 4 bosses being fun not counting raids
Poh hae yeti and that sogun lament dude
But for different reasons
Yeti was pretty fun if you let him collect the frozen icycles and had to do the 8 iframes
Citadel with Zakhan was fun as well, and Robo lab + Ebon Lair
My game freezing for 5 seconds just to put a blue filter on my screen
Can't be beat
Yea looking back at Irontech Forge, that one was really fun
It's weird I've forgotten basically everything about irontech
I just remember that one of the bosses is robot ogong and the last one was a boxer
You had lightning that would bounce back between players and you needed the correct amount of bounces and to get the right colours and kill the adds
Colours and bounces does ring a bell
But maybe im going all the way back to 4 years old
Ogong was similar but you needed for him to jump from furthest to tank etc
Ohh yeah he'd leave stuff on the floor right
With each jump
I remember him bouncing from one edge of the arena to the other, over and over
Yea, don't remember everything. The tank would also get a bomb that can't explode next to members with the lightning buff
anyone know if accuracy matters for heavenly slasher? xD can it miss if i have low accuracy?
I assume accuracy affects everything except maybe soul cores
HS wouldn't be an exception
just CRIT
bruh are we playing a puzzle game for 7 year olds now
it does, but aoe skills have higher accuracy for some reason
they can still be evaded but i was hitting more rmbs on my alt day 1/2 BSH with like 500 accuracy than i was with my main at 900
oh ic, guess i dont need to stack accuracy then xD
should be enough from levels along
how are we still 2 full weeks away from next patch
lmao new patch and i still haven't done bsh2 like most ppl
now there will be 3 dungeons we can't clear
Worst case you can clear bsh2 next patch
With new gear
Not sure how I will close the gap to the 2 new dungeons though lol
Other than skill stacking but even so
2 extra weeks won't change anything, those who really want to stick with it and do next content will be already prepped for it by now
and those who aren't just have the hope of ncsoft making it easier to catch up
or just closure if they don't actually do anything
i can assure you that not many people are prepped for Naryu even at the top end of players lmao
therefore my 2nd sentence
How much dmg do you need for naryu
36.7k if 4man ver or 33.4k if 6man ver
i said nothing about how many people are prepped
Does 6 man have more hp? Should be lower than that if it's the same no?
it does have more hp
Then what's the point of making it 6 man lmao
Just 2 more variables that can mess up their rotation and dps
bc it's still less dps required?
Yeah but it's not by a lot and like i said it's 2 more people that need to perform well
With premades it's fine but pugs not so much
pugs aren't clearing it regardless
2 more people means 1 person's f*ck up has less impact
@odd dagger you might as well start stacking hs at this point
sure am glad i bought mine for 10k right as the crash started
i love it when people list 2 of an item by accident and give half price
lmao
seen it multiple times now and it tends to be psyches a lot
but maybe it's my bias because i pay more attention to psyches
feed me your pierces on EU
Hello fellow gamers
does Heavenly Slasher-build have a future or should I just give up on it and play something else?
any updates?
how's pierce compared to HS?
only builds i see are puncture/DT..
pierce is also not a real build according to devs 
first red fuse
damn
i curse you with 10 years of blade strikes
bro I've been gambling purple books past couple days im not hitting that 20% ever

I mean I dropped a card but yeah, the loot is just ass
where is maria selling 9 pierces when i need it
mariah is a f2p now
🙏
blue books kfm
i missed out when they were like 4.5k each and there was 6 of them in market
🤔 where'd you get them news
but i never had plans to go full purples back then
Spitting facts
#1357788582617813132 message
HS badge comes first, u pleb
lvl 55, time to afk until new content 😴
still not using it or blade call >:(
buy it before prices rises
Lightning rod resets blade storm. Bring that badge back
why tf have you listed bdr for 4k
yes 👍
you're the gambling guy
if you're not gambling you wouldn't be the gambling guy
no but you can have lots of green fuses from multiple chars
what happened to whoever was saving up like 1000 fragments
how big are we talking here
It did big bomba in KR
big bomba, you say?
Around 8.2 extra ap modifier
i do like having a nuke on my kit but at the end of the day i wouldn't really give up a slot for it
I’m already using it. Depending on how much damage it actually does I might keep it after patch
i used green bdr for a while
during cinderlands patch and early moonwater patch xd
helped me secure a lot of last hits in field bosses
I use it when I’m almost out of focus and still have bd up
Wtb purple punture eu
its waiting for you on steam
U should get that purple one
Its prety good
some whale should buy up all cyclones now and wait for everyone to select puncture
nono punc is bad sell them all to me thanks
I would select DT 
im selecting blade strike destroying all my gear and uninstalling
that's a clown move
ultimate crashout
not mina, bdx
?
if you're crashing out you'd pick a bad skill
TDS
Pierce
Pierce
dragon crashout
I would never
maybe i should just gamble like 10k coins
see that's bait
U should ye
don't let them get you
bdx you're about to lose your bsh2 carry


?
mina gonna get depressed after losing that 10k
13k
dumb price
This morning is was 10 11 and 13
i've been trying to buy 9 pierces for 3 days now and now i have 0/9 pierces
were you using focus recovery rush before
just use the ascalon method and camp world chat
im doin mujin
i got rid of rush, definitely not needed imo
cant camp
although i always see one other dude buying ES
and selling DTs and SS and puncs simultaneously
no idea where he keeps pulling them from
osore?
ye
lvl 54 yey

big
Are they yours?
surely not
excelent choice
Hate to break it to you bdx but crash won't sell for any more than 2k
🤫
Super good skills guys
Get em
I heard Ebo got a 5k dps incresae with it
actually nuts
bdx just has his alter ego crackhead that comes out sometimes and i think there's patterns to it
bdx is bullying me
bruh you pulled 100k gems out your ass you deserve it
crazy how much influence some rng has
Wait what did I do
actually it was 97k gems
you used a hostile emoji on my message on the other thread, almost as if implying my business venture is illegitimate ‼️
I sold a dragon crash for 1.6k after listing it 3 times so yea
Even tho you secretly hate me i hope it goes well and you sell all the things
just put it in your next version of the script to auto gift you calico when they run the macro 

@spiral sky
DARK
Hi
Thats prety hilarious
WTB PURPLE PUNTURE EU
@spiral sky are you online
@spiral sky do me favor
Press f7 click moonwater and take a screen shot. Wanna see how many dungeons are up these days. See if dead or not
kek
Game dead
What
always have been

with my green-blue rng i can't imagine ever gambling blue-purple
Any shadowmoor 👀
bsh2 is whale diff
you were gone for a week bro not a month
Lol
is your sense of time gone
one week and a half dark
No one doing those anyway for a while
Idk if I can keep being bothered with such crazy DPS requirements
Like people can't do new content and will continue to quit
Caera meter free now
I'm not at home
not right now
let me in bsh1 
14-16k in bsh1
i kinda like dara's more tbh
but still neither of them is opensource, sadge
Easy fix. Make your own
open source only matters if u just want to work on it, so, irrelevant for common user
that's what i did
Based
Let the money rain
too much work to support more than just for myself lol
Fair
Is bleed any amounts of stack or 5 only
it's any amount, it's possible to count stack too but that's little bit more complicated so i didn't do it
both bleed and defense down are fixed 10 seconds and refresh when reapplied, and there's no way to end it early so it's pretty easy to track, i'm sure dara and ceara can implement it just as easily if they look into it
Bdr for 5k?
Last time I tried to sell mine at 1.5k it didn’t sell
Thats becaue ppl dont know its gonna get buffed
Yea no point in selling before then
But my gamble funds :<

Consecutive csst better. They waste tab and you kd again, easy rpe
Thats a lie
Blocks aproach is clearly the best
Go get it now from the market
U can KD them and run, aint nobody catching you
they waste tab, get debuf resisted 5 times. scapes bc sin 👍

Sins don't count
I'm 100% sure sin was created by a mentally broken dev
Don’t forget about that
Thing is, i dont know what they changed on neo on sin, bc i dont remember sin's to be that pain on the ass on live
They the same
Xept ice mine
they were worse on live with mine xd
then im just getting oldge or something, smh
how many pierces can we stack realistically?
maybe desync / lag issues. Heard some sins use poison breath and only get 2 stacks lol
I have 6. struggling to put in any more without sacing even more utility
i guess you use rush focus and a version of flock
blade call, rush focus so I can run around scarlet
I personally run bm puncture, and am getting tired of seeing frequent desyncs with various timings even at 2 ms. And occassional non-crits at 4200 cr won't trigger puncture. Makes me wonder if hybrid is the way to go.
already removed my boot KD. added 5 point strike though so I don't get KD'd on WB too much
yeah desyncs and lag spikes just ruin R TAB T
are u living inside the server, how u get 2 ms
right next to the server in virginia. ms isn't the problem. There's a strange desync, lag spike from time to time that messes up quick action inputs. hybrid has slower inputs which makes it not desync.
just don't use a 1ms spam macro lol
30x bruh some people have 100x
Hybrid ❤️
can you record?
I know what that looks like. when 2 failed crits on R and TAB, T never comes out. It also desyncs the macro so the next R TAB T also fails regardless of crit
if that's still happening at 2 ping then there's nothing we can do to fix really
just don't use a spam macro and it won't desync
ahk doesnt spam it i think
what is a spam macro, spamming all 3 with no delay?
like rly low ms
like 1ms delay between each input
1ms or so
that is literally impossible for R TAB T
i had it for hybrid and it worked but then i realized it was making my game run worse
with software macro, but ahk 1 ms works fine so idk
for r tab t ive 210 135 135
but didnt really test that in fights, just on dummy since ive no badges or books whatever
What macros u guys using with hybrid build and heavenly slasher build?
Is there a trick to tanking bloodmane? As a hybrid bm constantly pressing 1 nd changing to normal stance offs my dps
im broke
got puppah pierce and vortex
time to save for tab and falcon now
im still think that honed is bait
tho
as a basic stancer, I love all the yellows from bloodmane. I sometimes lose dps if the boss gets cc'd right before they do a yellow and I end up blocking nothing
i fell you
honed is not bait. it's huge dps
press f block instead?
same for vortex compared to cyclone
3 seconds doesn't feel like a lot but it's actually a good amount of increase
yeah can't block everything anymore
but it's also a good thing if you miss some yellow attacks
what i should get first
@spiral sky
fissure,stone or blade
👋
hey dark
purp?
yep
honed blue first
maybe fissure > blade > stone
stone last for 5 seconds which doesn't feel all that impactful, unless you time it with certain BD burst windows
i think i will remove for more stack
the single flash step?
oh it's good stuff
im not used to press that skill
I think it's worth 2-3 blue pierces
press QXFE on big bosses
it's really fast and it's a big load of dmg
use it once per blade call / flock
probably not worth using on puncture, but should be worth it over a pierce since we have to go into draw stance for blade storm anyways
how ? violent blade doesnt appear when using lightning blade
isn't it 11s?
yeah
right 11s. it last 8 seconds, buff last 3
8+3 second duration
I forgot how long it lasts... that's why I'm stuck in combat for so long when I stone slash something for the kill
bruh
tell me the current price of purple puncture and fissure
yes
3,6k
but no one selling anything worth buying
and i doing fine
how the f
whats your cd
2k
im washed
honestly just fix ur ring psych and u will be doing fine
finally beat the enrage timer for bbr solo 
right on 00:00
now i cna have all the drops to myself
enjoy your green book
did u true the gloves yet
im doin bracelet first
o whats ur bracelet like
what
why not glove, it could be like 200 200!

whtas ur stats
pure fire on 180ms ping
thats all u needa know

im probably only running at 70% of my full dmg
welcome to the club
pure fire, do u have like 50gm dt

24gm
transmuted two purp DTs and bought the third one after selling a bunch of stuff
(ye, just remembere it existed, lol)
logitech g502 mouse. Looks like lmb+tab did not crit (no puncture), then the next rotation desynced even when both crit.
its worth it in gold alone i think
oh u didnt sell the ones u made
im not that needed gold wise, more needed on dg wise tbh, since i dont gambla cards
(or not a lot)
nope
kept them for my own use
rip essence prices

I was at 70k health left before enrage yesterday. Literally need to just level up. And mind you I play on moonwater. I have 100 blessing pots from compensation to spend on bbr and gamba for books.
theres a new bp?
nop
yea i think i have a few seconds of leeway so i can make 1-2 mistakes and still clear
cos i clear just as the timer hits 0, not as the enrage text comes up
no, same one
damn i've been sleeping on it, i got it from lvl 50 box and it's been sitting in my bank the whole time
ok nvm i had a good run this time and cleared 11 second before enrage
definitely pretty comfortable
1ms = -1k dps tru
@sharp current thats what it looks like rn btw
how many psyche did that take
💀 💀 💀
i wanna say at least 20
the worst part is after i hit it i had 3 psyches left
thew it on belt and hit double crit in 2

??
i knew i shouldnt have to xdddddd

first time seeing profane so empty lmao
nugget are u NA or eu?
NA
and some greens to gambah
need to get from greens first
gamba purps, chase dat leg honed slash 👍
im still like 30 pages away from an attempt
stones slash for 6bd pierce bois
or if some type magic macro exist
im go hybrid
mystic badge scares me on that route
i cant wait to play neo again
just to get rejected from all parties because everyones way ahead of me now
dark is so last week

the goat is coming back? just swipe a bit more to catch up
🐐
couldnt be me
im a 6kdps rando
i may not do a lot of dps
but
i look amazing
show me 1 better looking character
ill wait
find a strong clan and join it, or after each pug, add everyone good to your friends list
we need cross server match making then
why game dead?
we've got people in viridian still struggling to farm cs and training. they can join the HR people and at least find people easier
poor bamboo people
There are a couple of clans on viridian that can farm hae. Maybe 4-5 big ones that got all the top WB people.
That has never happened to me and i have 70ms. The only way for my pierce to not hit is if i don't crit, but a crit cyclone tab will always make my pierce hit and i think the reason is the time for pierce is lower than the rest, idk, maybe i'm wrong but that's my experience pierce is 10ms lower than the rest
did y tried my stuffs?
Vicks, from your clips I definitely saw you missing 2 pierces in a row because the first pierce didn't come out
wheres the fat twins event
=/
The macro just does that. If you 1 pierce it misses the next one as well
Hard to see from that angle.
I'll record again later on
Need to see a moment where both r and tab fails to crit. What happens to your pierce and the next pierce
because purple installler is complete trash
They video i recorded was from not having pup cyclone
I'll record in 2-3 hours
Making steaks, you guys want some steaks? they good
Those aren't mine btw
I wish i could make something to look that good
viridian is so dead i basically only run with clan lel

yeah there's little chance we can find a training / command group on f7. we have to whisper individual people for invites usually. I'm assuming it's the same for HR?
eh depends on how much dps you bring yourself for those usually. If I'm trying to find a CS group with my min dps alt then it can be a trap
i havent checked my dps since the old meter died
don't need to if everything gets cleared np
think one of my clanmates did one for training base some time ago and i was like 20.5k
but i also literally facetanked everything like a dumbass

its the launcher..
i missed so much mats
i shouldnt even reinstall
WTB>stone slash NA 4k















right now









