Loading in and facing the three sins three kfm teams is not fun
#Blade Master
gilded thistle
gilded thistle
urban bridge
I gracefully accepted my loss
little moat
Surely u just afk that game
Can anybody calculate
If I do 20k dps, 55% ES damage
What the increase would be if I go Purple ES (16gm)
Wich is I think +0.3 ap?
wooden rain
There's a big difference between 0.3x ap and 0.3% ap
Yast shows 0.15, would have to check in-game
1.6 to 1.75 is not even 10%, so total would be 5-6%
wooden rain
Ye i know but if the relative difference is the same it changes nothing
little moat
Lightning blade goes 2.65 to 2.95
honest haven
thing is, you can use it right before you sunstroke anyway, where you have to reset it
like I never just hold F when dragon crash is up, I intentionally wait and use it to not mess up my dmg
or right after
whichever
little moat
Lightning blade goes 2.65 to 2.95
So thats a 12% buff?
wooden rain
You know how impossible it would be to time that well while tanking
honest haven
You know how impossible it would be to time that well while tanking
I do it all the time 🤔
little moat
THATS IT?!
wooden rain
I do it all the time 🤔
And your boss always stays in place, same direction?
wooden rain
Don't bring in block yet
honest haven
I'll defend crash til I die come at me
little moat
dont need to block
What if its a 3 hit spin
wooden rain
If you wait for boss to attack it needs to be 180 to be safe for f and ss, and then you have another 0-2 f coming, except you have no idea how many
honest haven
What if its a 3 hit spin
thats when you 1 hmb q
little moat
What if you need hmb for an actual dangerous hit or its on cd
wooden rain
How would you always consistently fix your positioning
honest haven
What if you need hmb for an actual dangerous hit or its on cd
then you got E->Q, SS -> 2, SS -> dragon crash back
you have so much utility as a bm
little moat
U can SS > Crash btw
wooden rain
How would you always consistently fix your positioning
In-between attacks that is
little moat
But if u SS u lost dps so crash wont save u
honest haven
thats what I said
honest haven
But if u SS u lost dps so crash wont save u
crash makes up for the dmg, and u also lose dmg when you block anyway, its no difference imo
wooden rain
Bdx can you shut for a moment, you didn't even use dragon crash
honest haven
Block > gain focus > ani cancel more
yeah I use block a lot too, its nice
little moat
And in CS i replaced it cuz I kept getting knockbacked cuz it blocked my Violentblade
honest haven
but dragon crash's dmg and utility is too good to pass on
game is already sleeper mode to tank
its not like your brain will explode
wooden rain
I mean your comments sure didn't give the impression you used it or even are aware of your options
But anyway
wooden rain
Right except me pinging him on my impression of when i used dragon crash is what started the conversation
Now if you're done with your tangent
wooden rain
In-between attacks that is
@honest haven how do you do this
nova lotus
ya know if you like using F for dmg
you can just use nonbook version inbetween
costing you nothing
when I dont tank, like on playing alt its fun and weaves well
but I cannot see myself using it as a tank
wooden rain
If i wasn't tank i still wouldn't use it because the camera gives me cancer but let's not get to that yet
tiny sky
Do you guys think it is worth it to use Exitlag if it drops my ping from 22 to 17?
little moat
Do you guys think it is worth it to use Exitlag if it drops my ping from 22 to 1...
No
Because that means u are paying to play Bns.
nova lotus
going down to 17 changes nothing
honest haven
<@98146764854411264> how do you do this
so if blood mane or whatever is about to hit you, the moment he starts his attack I may crash behind him, and depending on the situation (his next attack) I either walk back in front of him while macroing (you have plenty of time), stay, or you can crash back ig if it's important, and with your 2 move speed buff you're super fast as well so repositioning when you have to isnt that hard I've noticed. You also have plenty of backups if you mess up like I've mentioned
tiny sky
Okay thank you, that's what I assumed too :D
wooden rain
so if blood mane or whatever is about to hit you, the moment he starts his attac...
But isn't the point of it to use as many dragon crashes as you can? You sound like you abandon 2nd-3rd hit a lot of the time
honest haven
and again, it's not always, constantly, it's every 24 seconds ish
honest haven
But isn't the point of it to use as many dragon crashes as you can? You sound li...
the window between them is long
wooden rain
What
honest haven
what do you not understand
wooden rain
What does that change
does it mean you wait for ss to be off cd again to use 2nd hit
Does it mean you walk back manually, wait for another attack, and then use 2nd hit and walk back again again?
honest haven
you have 5 macro rotations before your next dragon crash goes away
thats a lifetime in terms of combat time
wooden rain
You say it like you forgot not losing consecutive dt use boost was your original point
honest haven
besides, you guys are also not really addressing the main upside of it, which is repositioning while dpsing, instead of blocking (losing dps), or E/Q (losing dps)
wooden rain
It's a niche point and not really specific to dragon crash
honest haven
what xD
"the major benefit of the skill is niche and not specific to it" ok, it's still a major point
what other skill does 30k dmg and repositions you so you dont have to block?
wooden rain
You can use the single use flash step, e immediately, tab/4 and get a free iframe that doesn't put anything on cooldown
Or you know, just be a normal person and sidestep the 180, they're mostly all slow as sh*t
sage tulip
little moat
Share mina
sage tulip
Sure
little moat
wooden rain
Like, since when is 180 attack a DPS loss
little moat
Thankies
honest haven
You can use the single use flash step, e immediately, tab/4 and get a free ifram...
ok but again, dragon crash does that with dps increase
you can just walk through the boss back
its really no difference
wooden rain
Ok but do you or do you not aim to use the consecutive dragon crash hits as much as possible? Cuz if you don't you're potentially only getting 1/3rd of the dragon crash dps you could have
honest haven
Ok but do you or do you not aim to use the consecutive dragon crash hits as much...
like I explained, you have a LOT of time between crashes
and you dont need to use it on CD
you can keep it for long
until you feel its most opportune, like during a phase
wooden rain
That doesn't explain sht to me on how it doesn't fck with dt boost nor boss positioning
sage tulip
I think the play is to stack dragon crash books
wooden rain
Thanks discord formatting
little moat
I think the play is to stack dragon crash books
Dragoncrash and Stone Slash books
Get the ultimate bigboy crit
long tulip
i used it as an alternative to q/e for dodging or for approaching after getting knocked back
honest haven
I think the play is to stack dragon crash books
I swear if I dont get a purple ES soon I just might for the meme
long tulip
dont know if its worth giving up a stack for that tho
honest haven
50 stack dragon crash lets go
nova lotus
most of time you can use forbidden technique of walking
urban bridge
You guys gonna be like sulli?
honest haven
while holding macro
still not a point, you do less dps
long tulip
you can but thats boring 
honest haven
for the same outcome
little moat
WASD is not in my macro ebo
urban bridge
man has 2 legendary stone slash book
little moat
wooden rain
If you delay the other hits on purpose you're losing so much dt boost
I mean yeah if you decrease your dt dps dragon crash will do more on a percentage basis
honest haven
If you delay the other hits on purpose you're losing so much dt boost
well thats a you problem I guess, but then again you can use it between sun strokes
its still a big dps increase
imo
wooden rain
Yeah, one dragon crash every 6 seconds that's how it works
wooden rain
If you went far above where this started you'd see what dragon crash did to my dt count
honest haven
honestly even if you eat the DT combo and just weave in crash in a row, you still do more dps
unless you have like a 50 stack purple DT
like you barely lose a dt when you crash well
its seamless
wooden rain
Well i did do the counts and check, and picked the result where dragon crash did best even
nova lotus
real question is does CD start on first or last hit of crash
wooden rain
For me it's far from seamless and i couldn't get it to be seamless
sage tulip
Guys
gilded thistle
And yall call pierce complicated
sage tulip
Start sharing logs instead of yapping
honest haven
real question is does CD start on first or last hit of crash
I believe first but havent really paid attention
gilded thistle
honest haven
lemme test
wooden rain
No matter what way i did it i lost significant dt count
little moat
Start sharing logs instead of yapping
The guy has no dps meter lol
sage tulip
little moat
real question is does CD start on first or last hit of crash
last hit
honest haven
real question is does CD start on first or last hit of crash
yea it starts on the first crash
wooden rain
Bdx uses dragon crash trust him bro
wooden rain
Can't tell if missed sarcasm or ignored it intentionally
urban bridge
lol I did notice alot of people name their irl pets/in game pets haru....
honest haven
if by garbage you mean amazing I agree
little moat
if its 24s after I use 3 crashes then i'm prety sure it starts on last hit
But I can be wrong ig
Cali knows best.
Big dps buff
little moat
Please do 
wooden rain
How would it even work if you didn't use consecutive hits then tho
nova lotus
😄
wooden rain
Could just post a 10 second clip
honest haven
sec phone
nova lotus
Ill bite, Im gonna get blue crash, replace a green DT
wooden rain
And do test the Dt count as well cuz losing 9 DTs in a minute is the best result i got
nova lotus
if its up then purple crash will go over blue dt as well
sage tulip
You can theorise builds and DPS all you want but back it up with actual proof
little moat
Please do test it ebo chan
It was a 900dps increase for me on dummy but I kept failing blocks cuz F was blocked at bad times (Blue Crash vs Green dt)
So i ditched it
nova lotus
got meeting with customer in hour
but then will do
realisticly speaking, for testing purpouse we should use at most 2 crashes
and with current crit rate getting 3rd reliably is big ask
over many fights it will even out with getting only 1 hit sometimes
but for test lets settle for 2 casts max
little moat
But if crash cd starts on last crash
And u crit ur 2nd, U ruin your cd by holding the 3rd
little moat
Oh i missed that
Ey meng I see ebo typing i go read ebo first 
Maybe he shares me juicy tech to get a free DT or some sht 
nova lotus
wo wo wo
wooden rain
Same way you read 6man lab event
nova lotus
sounds like simping
gilded thistle
honest haven
sec phone with doctor :v but I dont think I can record
little moat
Time to get more shafted
Give name
honest haven
gotta head out to the hospitale, but hey get a green dragon crash and record it someone if its rly important to confirm 😂
o/
sage tulip
gotta head out to the hospitale, but hey get a green dragon crash and record it ...
Hope it's nothing serious o/
wooden rain
He's a bns player, it's probably a psychotherapist
honest haven
Nono if it was srs I wouldn’t write on discord 😅
honest haven
He's a bns player, it's probably a psychotherapist
Fair lol
balmy tinsel
hello Do any of you play Pierce? When I do the macro in the image, I experience an fps drop in the game, can someone share me the macro they use?
north burrow
How can using a macro cause fps drop lmao
balmy tinsel
zinc pewter
The delay is so small that it kinda burns cpu usage
I’d recommend to increase the delay a bit
balmy tinsel
I’d recommend to increase the delay a bit
Can you tell me? I've been trying all morning.
little moat
How can using a macro cause fps drop lmao
i've had that before if the delays re soooo small
gilded thistle
Try R (180) Tab (170) T
north burrow
i've had that before if the delays re soooo small
Delays on that screenshot don't look very small though 
little moat
No those are prety big xd
winged reef
The bosses are lvl 58 too? So even whales will get crazy damage reduction
balmy tinsel
Try R (180) Tab (170) T
Is that how it works?
so I did and tried but it only spams RB
north burrow
How high is your ping
balmy tinsel
40 ms
winged reef
At this rate even as f2p I will never get there, I’ll be doing as much damage as on the lvl 36 patch on those guys
north burrow
At this rate even as f2p I will never get there, I’ll be doing as much damage as...
You won't
gilded thistle
Try 95 across the board
odd dagger
looks good? 2:2:2 per sec
balmy tinsel
I don't understand macro :/
gilded thistle
Looks okay. When you cycle through it does it sound like a single hit with three numbers poping or three separate sound effects?
merry prairie
Just show counts of lmb tab and rmb in DPS meter
You will never be able to tell if a macro is good or not if you can't see how good it is in 1 min
wooden rain
At this rate even as f2p I will never get there, I’ll be doing as much damage as...
And you didn't even mention the most fun part
All that effort to get there and the rewards are sh*t
winged reef
All that effort to get there and the rewards are sh*t
No the most fun part is hitting the boss for 5 minutes just like we do for every current boss already
wooden rain
No the most fun part is hitting the boss for 5 minutes just like we do for every...
The combination of these is what matters i suppose
Really makes you feel like you made 0 real progress when the numbers are bigger but you're doing nothing different and getting nothing different
Just make a bay lee (harder) and bay lee (harderer) where only boss hp is different
little moat
I'd like that
wooden rain
At that point you can just go solo and pretend you're doing a harder version of it
(I actually wiped when i went a few days ago, i did more damage than his max hp but the regen killed me)
little moat
How much dps do I need to solo bbr
odd dagger
25k without bleed i think?
winged reef
Really makes you feel like you made 0 real progress when the numbers are bigger ...
The numbers don’t get bigger though. With the level difference you do less damage so it always feels like you’re not progressing
Or at best you improve just to do enough damage to match what you were doing on the previous dungeon
spiral sky
We will
In 3 more months
First need to be whale territory (4man)
So nc can milk more
grizzled gale
someone sell me pierce on eu
pulsar vortex
WTS EU - PM Offer
wooden rain
If i remember all numbers correctly he regens around 700k per fight?
It's his health regen you dumbo
gilded thistle
We can go with my alt soon
A few more things to do on main then it's alt gaming
little moat
I got a 
that carries me
wooden rain
Hmm actually i must be wrong
spiral sky
wooden rain
If he does regen that you need to do around 5.4 mil over 3 minutes
It'd mean you need 30k solo without bleed
It can't be that high can it
wooden rain
No way, his hp is 4.65 mil
4.65 mil / 180 is already over 25k dps
If he has any regen at all it's higher, and he does have some for a fact
nova lotus
gilded thistle
But it says the number right there
grizzled gale
doesnt ill have a video him soloing it with 26k?
nova lotus
my kill is obviously past enrage timer
grizzled gale
sick bison
it depends on bay lee, you can get away with low 25k dps or 25.7k is sometimes the minimum, depends on if he reaches the mech before enrage, or skips the mech to go into enrage
winged reef
Why bother soloing Bay Lee anyway, the rewards are trash
wooden rain
Just because you can
winged reef
Would rather do it quicker with more people, at least 2
grizzled gale
for the 0.01% purple book of course
nova lotus
Why bother soloing Bay Lee anyway, the rewards are trash
I take my chances
and getting other people takes longer than actually finishing it yourself
gilded thistle
Was it a good book?
nova lotus
parry
gilded thistle
Ah
winged reef
Bbr has the fastest recruit time
wooden rain
Even if you get an extra 10 seconds from enrage timer with regen it'd still be like 28k+ dps required
nova lotus
any time more than 0 is extra time
wooden rain
Maybe dps meter just doesn't track some sort of damage properly
winged reef
Makes up for it cause the bosses die quicker
nova lotus
the meters are far from perfect yet, but gives you range roughly
sick bison
Even if you get an extra 10 seconds from enrage timer with regen it'd still be l...
you don't need that much dps, it's 4.91m hp if you do not bleed the boss, 25.7 is the minimum, unless you get lucky you can get away with a bit less
wooden rain
Where'd you get 4.91
sick bison
that's the total amount of HP baylee has when soloed, due to his HP regen
it's visible in the meter as well as total dmg dealt
wooden rain
Hp regen is 0.083% per second isn't it?
sick bison
I got no idea about that, all I know is that on my solo runs it always says 4.91m dmg dealt when the boss is dead
wooden rain
Well the faster you kill the less time he has to regen
winged reef
It depends on how fast you kill him
sick bison
also I've barely cleared when I first started soloing like 10 times, also failed a few times, my lowest clear time was always 25.7k dps
wooden rain
Quite a few factors can affect it so it's hard to say
sick bison
deep wound does not work, and I used no bleed
wooden rain
When i can I'll probably just log in and see how much hp he gets
little moat
Why bother soloing Bay Lee anyway, the rewards are trash
Same rewards as Mujin
So why not 
wooden rain
I.e. just damage him, sit there, and see the actual regen value
gilded thistle
Nah mujin drops SS
little moat
Nah mujin drops SS
It does?
gilded thistle
little moat
gilded thistle
Yes
winged reef
And legendary bracelet
wooden rain
Nah mujin drops SS
Wood fragments*
winged reef
Bay Lee’s best loot would be purple books or a card for fusion
little moat
I've seen more poh rings in 20 runs then leggy gloves in 60 bloodmanes
(eventho i got one yday lol)
wooden rain
I've seen 1 total legendary across all my runs everywhere
winged reef
Took me over 100 runs to see my first legendary from poh
gilded thistle
I've seen plenty. Just never been the one looting them
wooden rain
And 2 purples over 500 bay lees
winged reef
So rng is sheit across the board
gilded thistle
wooden rain
Rng always evens out at the end but with odds like these "at the end" is like a few hundred thousand runs so
winged reef
They got rid of 1000 runs achievements so hard to keep track
north burrow
Even if you get an extra 10 seconds from enrage timer with regen it'd still be l...
It's not even close to 28 lol, I was soloing with like 25.3k on meter + whatever 130 drain set gives
rancid grove
Mantra stone, what opt is best for damage???
rancid grove
Whatever you get/need
like i ask, for damage
spiral sky
CD
wooden rain
It's not even close to 28 lol, I was soloing with like 25.3k on meter + whatever...
The entire point here is that you might have more damage than you think from somewhere
Either dps meter doesn't show some damage, the health regen is different, or some regen reducing skills are used
spiral sky
@grizzled gale u need to get used to hold 1
if u only press it, sometimes after tab hit it will cancel the block animation and throw a pierce there
holding fix that
grizzled gale
I tried that, but felt like ass idk
spiral sky
later with purple cyclone and better crits
i will try tweak
for now this setup is doing more dmg wise
grizzled gale
I'm still trying to get purple pierce, suddenly no one is selling xd
blue feels not worth maintaining bd buff tbh
brave pendant
blue feels not worth maintaining bd buff tbh
maybe not, but it'll be good practice to get in as high BDr buff uptime as you can now and use vortex wave
spiral sky
if i have purple fissure i would switch to purple vortex
but for now im still have focus problems sometimes
puppah searing falcon when
brave pendant
Vortex wave is a pretty big dps increase when it can be used often in a fight
My baylee solo dps went from 26.5k to 30k switching from purple cyclone to purple vortex.
grizzled gale
maybe not, but it'll be good practice to get in as high BDr buff uptime as you c...
true
how do you time honed slash btw or do you just feel it
brave pendant
oof. pierces down to 5k
grizzled gale
5k NA lol guess im waiting for the 3k EU lmao
brave pendant
how do you time honed slash btw or do you just feel it
Do honed slash fissure together
grizzled gale
oo I see
brave pendant
Rotation goes Purp blade call VC -> stone slash honed slash fissure -> QXE -> end flock of blades with (2)CZ. Then you can fit in 2 more honed slash fissures before the next blade call
grizzled gale
does the mystic badge work with blade call or is it exclusive to flock only
brave pendant
flock only
think most agree it's still worth to purp blade call for the extra 3 seconds of black dragon + dmg from the skill itself
grizzled gale
yeah I'd assume so too was just curious if it'd work with it
karmic viper
does anyone have punch macro for 200ms ping? been tweaking the delay but still cant figure it out
odd dagger
200 ms macro = uninstall the game
karmic viper
200 ms macro = uninstall the game
smh, thats not a solution 🤦♂️ 2 inputs was fine, but 3 abit annoying
get purple puch from bp so i wonder if its work with 200ms
brave pendant
3 rotation macro at 200ms sounds miserable. If it doesn't work then can always just do 2
odd dagger
130 ms is already dog water counts
cant even imagine 200 ms puncture
jst do rb tab during cyclone
dont even bother with 3 button one
brave pendant
^ Don't even need crit cyclone with 2 button rotation
karmic viper
yeah some people told me so
but they also said if u cant keep your cyclone up every 6s then your dps gonna drop alots
brave pendant
yep. BM is pretty bad with medium-high ping
karmic viper
Stacking HS
have tried HS, it go slower for some reason when i just hit RMB
it was fast at the first, and then go slow in the middle 😂
brave pendant
there's max boost and there's regular boost
spiral sky
After max boost should hit 3.2/s
wooden rain
Hp regen is 0.083% per second isn't it?
so it seems like bay lee only regens around half of this, ~2k per second
i dunno if it differs per boss or something
so you'd need around 5.01 mil damage
which is still over 27k dps
unless we count 10 extra seconds from enrage, putting it at around 26k
i might be able to solo bay lee now that i just reached lv53 but my ping spiked with perfect timing
thanks ncsoft
brave pendant
unless we count 10 extra seconds from enrage, putting it at around 26k
25.5k is not enough to beat enrage. 26k might be on the verge of beating enrage right before the purple goes off. 26.5k kills right on enrage. (From personal experience)
wooden rain
yeah that seems about right
twin lark
If i get all accs with purple focus regen mantra, would i get full focus most of the time or still just a few secs?
sick bison
25.5k is not enough to beat enrage. 26k might be on the verge of beating enrage ...
I clear at 25.7 still so idk about that
rotund compass
If i get all accs with purple focus regen mantra, would i get full focus most of...
it has 20sec internal cd so i think there will be gaps
twin lark
But is it worth it?
brave pendant
I clear at 25.7 still so idk about that
any bleeds will lower the requirements too. If you can keep kicking it for bleeds or scarlet breeze
sick bison
I don't use scarled or bleed
wooden rain
you might have lucked out on rotation so he entered enrage late
sick bison
this happened like 10 times
I solo it daily at least 5 runs
the only reason I have less data on that dps range is that now I do way more dps
only way to get more time is for bay lee to finish the purple aoe and then go into enrage
had that happen once I think, not on BM though
first time solo was with these stats
clear dps range was between 25.7 - 28k
little moat
Clearly just better then me at the vidyagame
sick bison
low ping pierce is pretty big dps
people sleep on it though, because blocking once every 9 seconds is a high ceiling
brave pendant
low ping can play anything. DT is cheaper and more dps there
sick bison
?
1 purple pierce is 30% more expensive than a blue DT
hard to compare DT stack vs pierce because only whales can afford to stack it
so at my gear level there's not much to compare to
brave pendant
it takes a lot more to start a pierce punc build than DT
sick bison
this is 32k dummy dps on pierce, with minimal black dragon, GM20
if some dt user has similar stats they can compare
brave pendant
if some dt user has similar stats they can compare
Not just similar stats. it needs low ping too
sick bison
DT ping cap is higher than pierce, so shouldn't be hard to find
odd dagger
price to dps pierce will win
sick bison
dps retention in dungeons is higher as well
21k hae mujin, (with summoner, my pierce is dog), lvl 51
I would assume DT stacked at the same level would be stronger, with easier gameplay and less requirements for upkeep, but that does require a 💳
little moat
this is 32k dummy dps on pierce, with minimal black dragon, GM20
830 AP 34k on dummy
(green dummy that is, not focus one)
little moat
Nothin cuz I suck
sick bison
how about winter/bloodmane
little moat
20-21k bloodmane
sick bison
(and pierce)
on focus I do 45k+, so it does indeed help pierce (way too much)
ok so similar dps to mine on bloodmane
is that with 100% hitrate?
little moat
ye
sick bison
okay, I'm still stuck at 97-98 due to low lvl
only boss I got 100% on is winter mane, out of the new ones
which is around 25-26k dps
twin lark
Is cyclone worth it without puncture? i'm dealing less dmg or almost the same as just lb tab with scarlet
wooden rain
@little moat is it time yet
little moat
Time for? 🙂
little moat
Gotta ask @gilded thistle @sage tulip aswell xD
wooden rain
eh you're the party man
wooden rain
nah i gotta follow the proper procedure
sage tulip
if we doin bsh 1 ill just join for daily, still have other stuff to do
wooden rain
chifu tili and one more connection of yours
wow profane essence is up to 3.3 dg
the bots must be quitting the game as well
fathom bronze
do yall think we will get char slots with warlock release?
or should i just make room for it already
little moat
yes.
fathom bronze
there were 2 questions above yes doesnt cut it
little moat
fathom bronze
gotta try harder is not even funny man its kinda sad LMAO
sage tulip
i mean if the game is still alive they will most likely give slot
rotund compass
do yall think we will get char slots with warlock release?
kr got char slot
fathom bronze
kr got char slot
thaanks
spiral sky
little moat
sage tulip
you dont switch to get more boxes?
sage tulip
cards
odd dagger
the bots must be quitting the game as well
they are actually banning bots now
there is some one whos monitoring it
wooden rain
they are actually banning bots now
they've been here for like 3 months and now they decide to do it
nah man there's just better places for bots to be
sage tulip
kaari
wooden rain
bots should react to sales and automatically switch to farming what's needed
who bought 10k essences earlier today
winged reef
Haru posted a pic of 11k Kaari essences
odd dagger
hes na
spiral sky
hes over 3h spining
odd dagger
if siren stops spinning we could have cheap karris in eu
limpid blaze
rotund compass
pierce bestest, sell all puncture and buy pierce let go 
grizzled gale
at this rate im saving for puncture
grizzled gale
there were 3 for 4.8-5k yesterday, only 1 sold
sage tulip
xd
its the same thing with saber and dt
yesterday it didnt sell for 40k
today they put it 50k
little moat
Is that an XML? xD
Since when does LMB insta boost HS?
he doesnt do anything to boost the HS
euhhhhh
odd dagger
cn?
spiral sky
i guess
odd dagger
damn moonwater dropped a weapon? fk i skipped wb
rotund compass
i think its cinderlands loot
vale idol
its always cinderlands loot
little moat
Does china have a diff llmb? Lol
odd dagger
china has diff many things
spiral sky
china have their own stuffs
odd dagger
its possible there breeze boosts hs
twin lark
Been trying for hours, this is the best i can do in 1 minute with 70ms, there's no way i can improve that and if there's a way must be black magic
mossy kite
WTB Purple DT:D
jaunty lark
POG
jaunty lark
Been trying for hours, this is the best i can do in 1 minute with 70ms, there's ...
where is that?
twin lark
where is that?
training dummy
twin lark
This is the best anicancel i can get and it's so bad lmao
twin lark
That looks good? looks really bad to me
Not even close to this
https://youtu.be/G8Scu21tCKc
grizzled gale
its fine, its just cuz non crits
twin lark
spiral sky
buy my fake tds
brave pendant
This is the best anicancel i can get and it's so bad lmao
This is good actually. After 2 non crit LMB and TAB, the next rotation also is guaranteed to fail from my experience due to macro desync or whatever. You just have to live with it
gets better if you have good luck and higher crit
twin lark
So you're telling me, there's no way i can improve the anicancel?
spiral sky
whats ur ratio rn?
brave pendant
If you have 100% crit, the rotation will comes out 100% of the time without fail
Doing it faster requires lower ping
hard iris
idk it looks pretty good but as I said that's just dummy, try it in a actual fight
twin lark
whats ur ratio rn?
spiral sky
dunno why its the same as mine
spiral sky
crit variable
jaunty lark
i guess
spiral sky
55% on lunar on this one
jaunty lark
i mean if u are on the point where ur dmg isnt gonna be mainly pierce
but i guiess it was rng
twin lark
I just don't get why pierce should be double of cyclone and tab, don't they do 1 2 3 1 2 3? how can 3 have more hits?
grizzled gale
Pierce counts as 2
jaunty lark
i suppose that was also counting the soul badge hits?
brave pendant
soul badge is a separate hit for some reason
twin lark
remove ur badge
ok
hard iris
I just don't get why pierce should be double of cyclone and tab, don't they do 1...
because when u use badge pierce is being counted twice
twin lark
No badge
spiral sky
whats ur ms time on macro
its weird how u get same counts as me
50ms difference
how much fps u used get
brave pendant
50ms difference
I guess 80-130 is not that much different. I think I can get in around 90 rotations in a minute
I can't lower my delays anymore without breaking the consistency
twin lark
whats ur ms time on macro
120 110 70 my fps are locked at 60
spiral sky
try unlock fps and put all on 1 on settings
check if do something
if its the same there's no more we can do it
dawn should be right
grizzled gale
Isnt cap like 120 on very low ms? 100ish isn't that bad
spiral sky
its cap but its weird that 70ms get the same ratio as 130 ms
twin lark
try unlock fps and put all on 1 on settings
I'll just leave it like this, no point on trying anything else, this is all a 70ms can do
spiral sky
yep
maybe if u get more crit and purple cyclone
u can be more agressive on macro
but for now
thats it
hard iris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bayF77xr9dY Koreans play pierce? Thonk
twin lark
Yeah will try once cyclone drops to 5k 
spiral sky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bayF77xr9dY Koreans play pierce? [Thonk](https:/...
he is just bored
of punc
hard iris
and I started thinking he lives the 100% uptime cope
spiral sky
10ms timing block vortex tho
twin lark
But isn't pierce better thanks to buff? ppl just don't wanna struggle with it
grizzled gale
100% isnt realistic in a real fight
hard iris
On paper yes, in a real scenario? outside of burst, fck no
brave pendant
On paper yes, in a real scenario? outside of burst, fck no
vortex wave while a black dragon buff is already active... yep pain
spiral sky
Realistic pierce will do more damage on later contents because of the higher ap scaling
but dunno until there
badges,skill balances etc
brave pendant
Oof I'm at 92-95ms today. This is pretty garbage
grizzled gale
I got an extra 10ms too today idk what did they do
twin lark
If they just removed the crit req to boost...
brave pendant
This is with lower delays
I increased my damage by 15% by having lower delays on a macro. yep just ping and macro diff
rotund compass
wut timeframe you guys doing? or just random time?
brave pendant
over a min
rotund compass
is good?
faster macro is huge increase unless it starts to break
but ping on the other hand doenst help
spiral sky
yep
rotund compass
This is with lower delays
78%crit is cheat 😛
spiral sky
you aim for 120/120/240
nova lotus
@little moat as promised
1st my current setup
2nd change 1 green DT for 1 blue crash
3rd changed 1 blue DT for 1 purple crash
worth to note that even tho 3rd try is lower, it has also lower crit
5 points from lightnig rod moved to dragon crash, I didnt cast 3rd time crash unless previous cast one just one time
Crash CD start after first cast
Weaves perfectly fine into rotation
You can even violent blade between casts, if quick enough to trigger
By no means I would call it "better", its just extra sweaty, if boss is punishing enough, you will pay for having it and I would need to test it in tanking situation. Also size of boss matters, its easier to dash and weave around big targets like baylee unlike small onces. Just cause of the dash if you tank, boss that can actually walk, will walk after you to hit, noticed it on bay lee, so shits like hae mujin will love to dance along side
brave pendant
I'm on some stupidly high delays. I can't compete with lower ping players.
rotund compass
I'm on some stupidly high delays. I can't compete with lower ping players.
i was just wondering in general and wanted to compare - didnt mean to offend you in any way
brave pendant
seems good though. Best I can do is close to 90 hits / min. If you can do closer to 120 hits then that's huge dps even with lower stats
winged reef
On KR?
spiral sky
yep
nova lotus
cDmg block acc bis soon
jaunty lark
2k Block incoming. WTB block leg accs. DM
winged reef
Everyone rerolling to Lightning/Fire gg
jaunty lark
👍
spiral sky
220 is for ligthing
jaunty lark
even better
spiral sky
dt is 27 to 135%
winged reef
Nice
jaunty lark
now u will have to balance bd, crit, focus, and block lmao
spiral sky
basic stance didnt get changed
jaunty lark
i mean, if its the top performer i dont expect that it gets anything extra tbh
winged reef
Even if you don’t have accs with Block it still gets boosted
Just not sure how much 220 is
nova lotus
No
spiral sky
720x1,55
nova lotus
155% means
X1.55
Also I bet you have 720 i base stance
Check your block in draw stance
winged reef
Yea that was my original idea, I meant times not plus
nova lotus
nova lotus
Almost all of it
spiral sky
pierce still 45% and punc 38%
winged reef
Did accuracy get boosted as well or just block
unreal oriole
Is pierce better than HS at 20ms?
I've stacked HS rn but I feel like I could be doing more if I swap off
nova lotus
Hs is not a real build
brave pendant
Is pierce better than HS at 20ms?
Yeah without a doubt. Pierce or puncture or DT all great at low ping.
spiral sky
HS its just there for 200ms crackheads players that cant leave this game
unreal oriole
Gotcha! Might try to sell HS before it gets to low lmao
spiral sky
its already 5k
brave pendant
With all the BMs quitting right now, it's pretty bad....
unreal oriole
Oof
spiral sky
rofl
twin lark
Legendary soul core?
unreal oriole
I thought I got a good deal at 13k lmao
spiral sky
so much pain in one phrase
brave pendant
Pierce should be cheap anyways
pierce is collapsing in price atm with all the BM quitting. probably good to grab some before it disappears
rotund compass
Just need more people to say its bad <:bns_bursting:1198525065281671249>
nonono pierce good, puncture bad
brave pendant
puncture meanwhile still selling for 40k or something
unreal oriole
Hmm I'll see when I get off work not sure if I can make it work or not
twin lark
They testing new stuff as if we're on beta or something?
brave pendant
Hmm I'll see when I get off work not sure if I can make it work or not
good thing for you, the crit cyclone also collapsing in price. no better time to start piercing now
unreal oriole
Not sure if it's better to sell all and come back in a few weeks or keep playing tbh
Is blue pierce enough or nah?
brave pendant
yeah blue is good. could just get 1 purp for cheap
unreal oriole
I have purple block cyclone
Ty for the help
I don't wanna quit yet lmao but this game is tempting me to
brave pendant
can swap to purp vortex wave later
lots of people quitting already for 1 reason or another. quitting and playing again later means being forced to farm old content with a even more diminished playerbase. stuff could be cheaper though, maybe...
spiral sky
full trout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bayF77xr9dY Koreans play pierce? [Thonk](https:/...
this man doesn't even take honed slash and went for more pierce stacks .. well i also do feel like going into draw stance and using honed slashed that you can't ani cancel out of takes an eternity, maybe he's waiting for that yellow honed before putting in his build lol
urban bridge
he has no intention of optimizing the build, hes said it himself one of the only reason he went pierce is because it was cheap. 10 pierce = 1 puncture cost wise in kr back during the time he was buying the books and it pulled more dps than all the other builds hes played still (lightning, hybrid)
full trout
oh ok, make sense
feels like na is getting into that market too now, pierce might be becoming the most dps per dg spent
urban bridge
it is, pierce has been most dps per dg spent for a while now
spiral sky
haru
urban bridge
hi
spiral sky
how bad was ur gambah?
urban bridge
the kaari?
spiral sky
yeah
urban bridge
I used 4k essence over night got 11 cards which is a little above average, think its supposed to be 2 kaari cards per 1k essence
haven't fused them yet
because server went to maintenance
spiral sky
gl
urban bridge
thanks lol with my luck I'm probably hitting bloodmane or something
instead of the legendary I want lol
spiral sky
aiming for what? mushin?
spiral sky
winged reef
Can you still get the cards you used as the fusion result?
sharp current
20 fuses yea, should be 5% each
winged reef
Purple fusions?
urban bridge
5 purple card fuse puts 5% towards the random legendary card pity box
so 20 fuses total for a guaranteed legendary card
trim knot
🗣️ DOULUHDAWAYIDOWENIMLUVINYOBODY
winged reef
I haven’t even done 1 purple fuse let alone 20
urban bridge
its like average 4.5k gems for an attempt at legendary cards in NA
so understandable
its not something most people would go for
twin lark
Not worth 3 focus even with aoe
fathom bronze
what are we getting for maintenance
spiral sky
more time
winged reef
Disappointment
brave pendant
With how cheap pierce was, that was also why I went into it. Can stack several books compared to 1 puncture and they'll do about the same damage with abysmal BDr uptime I'm getting out damaged by a guy with 1 puncture while I have 6 purp pierces. Guys just sell all your pierces and go puncture. Pierce is unfortunately just a meme
brave pendant
Is that better?
spiral sky
brave pendant
Also a true statement. I'm pretty sure it's just ping diff and macro diff though
spiral sky
brave pendant
Maybe he has the 760 drain set
maybe. Pretty sure I outstat them by like 40 AP, a lot of crit rate and had similar amount of cdmg. They were doing a bit more on WB than me though with just 8 GM puncture vs my 30. Calculations say the difference should be minimal with similar uptime. The only thing that isn't the same is the ping and the number of rotations / min
If they can hit 115 rotations per min vs my ~85-90. That's like ~30% more hits than I can output in the same amount of time. Big difference that high ping players can't overcome
rain nimbus
you didnt quit yet
winged reef
Yea ping can be a big factor
spiral sky
not yet
winged reef
Big difference for me when I’m lagging
twin lark
this worth anything?
spiral sky
a salvage
spiral sky
🫡
spiral sky
you didnt quit yet
not yet my friend
winged reef
Haven’t tried many but I’ve had 2 successful ones. 1x Pierce and 1x HS
long tulip
twin lark
@spiral sky could you make this one to disable when pressing shift+8 and enable when pressing shift+9? please, i've been trying with AI and it doesn't do it
brave pendant
How bad is it?
tab doing more dmg than pierce... feels like a tab stacking angle
brave pendant
ah. the pains of low crit
twin lark
brave pendant
did you honed slash exactly once over 4 minutes?
anklebiter?
blade storm hit 5x so that was used once?
3 lightning rods thrown out. You can throw out 2 per flock
if you optimize, you can hit a lot higher dps. like 15k-16k for sure just hitting more buttons on CD
twin lark
I feel like quitting tbh, this crit req to boost is just stupid
brave pendant
I feel like quitting tbh, this crit req to boost is just stupid
Even without it, you can do a lot more to optimize your dmg
first would be adding fissure
spiral sky
<@121377399945297922> could you make this one to disable when pressing shift+8 a...
Shift+8 = Toggle on/off
because of u i missed a deal on purple cyclone
someone sniped on f5
unreal oriole
anyone got a razor macro for lmb tab rmb for 20ms?
spiral sky
use ahk
unreal oriole
i saw the one you posted but idk what the razor naga buttons are called lmao
spiral sky
XButton1,XButton2,....
shout out to my boy xinnara
now need puppah pirce and vortex
slender kelp
i have now seen 2 purple DTs before my first blue one
twin lark
I want those numbers
tiny sky
what level and accuracy do I need to not miss on Hae Mujin?
odd dagger
1400 lv 54
twin lark
Are we getting a new set of SS? cause i don't even have bsh1 ones with perfect stats yet, just 3
spiral sky
legend SS on lab dung
odd dagger
i mean, its a lot of stat if u get high roll crit dmg
brave pendant
so not even worth trying to get perfect blood ones
More like I doubt you'll even get to lab min dps without fully investing in everything
little moat
<@159307928275255297> as promised
1st my current setup
2nd change 1 green DT for...
Hmmm ye so that's exactly what I had aswell.
Ever so slight dps increase at the cost of sweatyness and possibly fk ups due not being able to block consitently.
I don't think I would concider that a win 🙈
twin lark
i mean, its a lot of stat if u get high roll crit dmg
All of these have crit or crit and 3 have both, but man, so hard to get all 8 with both stats
odd dagger
u roll 2nd stat
spiral sky
CD+Block
twin lark
u roll 2nd stat
lmao i forgot i can do that
spiral sky
urban bridge
lab ss is a 3% personal loot drop and the ss chest is a 1% group loot
its going to be a really long time before people complete proper lab ss sets
odd dagger
what even is special effect on lab
yast doesnt have any
oh yast has it now
it gives ap
dats crazy
3 piece already so good , 5 piece also pog, 8 is whatever
odd dagger
about 210-250 more crit rate / crit dmg
twin lark
13AP nice
urban bridge
way more than that
each piece can roll up in the 600-700s for crit rate and 400s for crit dmg
unreal oriole
anyone have a video of how a good lmb tab rmb looks?
odd dagger
buying ss from whales 
urban bridge
you can hit 36k without it...just need purple book stacks xD
but yes with the SS definitely
odd dagger
pierce stacking is juicy af with current prices
50k dg max for full pierce purple build
twin lark
First legendary to ever drop and ofc gotta have shiiiiitty stats + got DCed after leaving the dungeon
little moat
Knowing I only got 55% critrate atm at 3.5k cr pierce would still feel awefull
Need that bc cyclone, block cyclone and stone slash wich are 25k toghetter aswell
little moat
Bladecall 5k ish
little moat
9s bdr?
odd dagger
blade call is just 3 sec bdr
odd dagger
flock has a badge which lets u spam waay more pierces
little moat
That badge... X should be the trigger
Or V in genrral
odd dagger
V should also max boost slasher/pierce/puncture
little moat
also u can only get like 7 pierces , so 30-35k for it
Wait they only 5k?
odd dagger
yes
little moat
Who the f quit and unloaded lol
odd dagger
pierce is so much sweat for 1/5th of the price
its not nothing
u lose like 5%~ dmg than running puncture
for waay less the price
little moat
Tbf I am concidering it since I cant afford a purple DT, ever.
Unless selector soontm
I always said, whatever RMB my random box gets I am playing that build
So far only bladestrikes so havent done anything yet
spiral sky
I always said, whatever RMB my random box gets I am playing that build
Tds Incoming
little moat
Lightning doesnt exist so thats not a build
odd dagger
lightning best build
spiral sky
Tell that to ma boy 🧅
little moat
Tell that to ma boy 🧅
The hybrid bm u mean?
spiral sky
Wut?
little moat
odd dagger
Onion should jst whale for the stone slash leggy
spiral sky
He still lightning
odd dagger
then he can be big dik dmg
little moat
Oh is he? Last time I stalked him he was Hybrid xd
little moat
See he is slowly converting, good good
little moat
Gn 🙂
spiral sky
slender kelp
someone teach me how to deal with sins
these rats in bastion are getting on my nerves
brave pendant
no point trying to 1v1 a sin in open pvp. they can stealth and gg out whenever