Blade Master

[odd dagger]

for stats

also purple breeze is to get u to focus surplus faster

[brave pendant]

yeah slasher was the build I wanted to play at the beginning. Never did get a purple slasher, and it's still overpriced on NA

[somber dagger]

Oh well I can keep my sunstroke one I guess

[odd dagger]

so everytime u are full focus , u use slasher

[somber dagger]

what about the mystic badge too ?

no need for it ?

only for stats ?

[brave pendant]

skip

+3 for some stats if you want

[somber dagger]

Bro heavenly blue is 500 a piece

this build is so cheap

I need to sell all my blue DT tho

[odd dagger]

yes

fire is the most expensive build

[hard iris]

how do we get ascent stones?

[winged reef]

Salvage purple gear

[odd dagger]

salvage purple

rare af

[winged reef]

Or drop in dungeons

[hard iris]

rare better than non existant, ty

[somber dagger]

Extracting all of those will require a lot of valor stones ...

[sage tulip]

buy essence spin wheel

[somber dagger]

yeah doing jianshi wheel in necro

[odd dagger]

its an investment for better cards

[hard iris]

or thrall card

[brave pendant]

profane wheel is good. can fuse purples and get some +AP there

[spiral sky]

Just swap to 🌻

[quaint saddle]

Anyone know how much does CS boss regen every 2 sec?

[spiral sky]

0,083% of the hp

Per/s

[rain nimbus]

hows it going tab stacking enjoyers

[spiral sky]

Bad

U fkc thebmarket

[rain nimbus]

about to log in and see what tabs i can buy

gotta ditch 2/z book and cyclone block book

and a scarlet breeze i guess

[spiral sky]

Wts s breeze

5k

[rain nimbus]

but it was 2k yesterday lol

do u have one

[spiral sky]

Yeah

[rain nimbus]

you have a purple scarlet breeze?

[spiral sky]

Yep

[rain nimbus]

why havent you sold it?

[spiral sky]

Im using

[odd dagger]

summoner def reduction

[rain nimbus]

o

[odd dagger]

is only on pounce?

[rain nimbus]

hammer

[odd dagger]

oh, its perma?

damn

[rain nimbus]

no

wym perma

[odd dagger]

permanent def reduction

[rain nimbus]

10s

but 8s cd

[odd dagger]

ya 8 sec cd

[rain nimbus]

gotta keep using it

[odd dagger]

its perma

[rain nimbus]

technically no but yes

ik wym now

so yeah perma

gotta have 5 poison stacks

[hard iris]

after playing alt tab on my alt I kinda like it better. more enjoyable that I'm not tied to a cycle makes open world mobbing more enjoyable

[rain nimbus]

alt tab?

anyone selling scarlet breeze purple

[winged reef]

Anyone selling legendary TDS

[drowsy palm]

WTS

[rain nimbus]

why?

@drowsy palm

[winged reef]

That was quick

I’ll give you 56 gems for all of that BM gear

[brave pendant]

Pierce is just not viable that's why

gotta go puncture for maximum dmg on world bosses

[somber dagger]

well

it seems someone decided to leave the game

[rain nimbus]

@spiral sky

do you want me to wait on buying tabs brother

[wooden rain]

Bm sin fm days over, maria is kfm sum des now

[burnt helm]

F, maria quitting

[trim knot]

I'll always love you.

[drowsy palm]

pierce is by far best BM build ingame

10% higher dps than puncture

with current 62,2% BD buff uptime

after skill patch it will be even better

thats why some KR players start rerolling

[drowsy palm]

no

[rain nimbus]

why are you selling everything then

@drowsy palm pls

[drowsy palm]

im not playing bm anymore

[rain nimbus]

i hope youre not quitting

what are you going to play?

[hard iris]

Summoner

[sage tulip]

kfm!

[drowsy palm]

sum

mina knows

[urban bridge]

what happened to the sin/fm

[hard iris]

FM

[brave pendant]

There's a difference with theortical BD buff uptime and actually having it on boss, and considering the seconds of animation it requires to activate such buffs. Plus any action that eats into a BD buff also just feels terrible, such as block -> cyclone while a buff is already running

[hard iris]

Sounds personal

[urban bridge]

I love bns localization team so much

[drowsy palm]

i mean

do you even know

how to play puncture?

[brave pendant]

other thing with vortex wave is the focus. There's never enough focus unless a focus grab is happening

puncture is literally the same thing without all the extra buttons

[drowsy palm]

"extra buttons"

vortex wave

alone

calculate it

its alone more uptime u need than puncture

[brave pendant]

do you have 100% uptime on R TAB T

[drowsy palm]

over 90%

over 95% actually

its rarely

i have to lmb tab

[hollow karma]

I play pierce too, I have the same experience as maria

[drowsy palm]

the point is

i run with guildies

my guildies contain all bm whales on EU

and i outdps all

[burnt helm]

F

[brave pendant]

block vortex wave while a BD buff is happening. well that was a good waste of a few seconds

[drowsy palm]

so?!

[hard iris]

And I seen Maria on wb being a first a few times so it can’t be bad or unplayable

[drowsy palm]

wasnt there past week also

but WB is not a measurement

it depends on Buffs

[hard iris]

Well uptime is the argument so that’s that

[wooden rain]

Any dps comparison is not a measurement when there is no place with normalized gear

[drowsy palm]

normal gear doesnt matter at all

[brave pendant]

It's not bad, it's not unplayable, it's just not very competitive compared to puncture on WBs

[hard iris]

And judging by pierce having bad bdr uptime u still were first

[drowsy palm]

it is

[hard iris]

Im literally on ur side

[drowsy palm]

a good played pierce get rank 1 with same gear as puncture

[hard iris]

Pierce also cheaper to stack

[drowsy palm]

well still i dont care about price

i could buy 15 Leg dt books if they were in market

doesnt change the fact pierce is just better

in any case

its just harder to play on WB

[hard iris]

Im still on Ur side it’s just another factor

[drowsy palm]

and 100%

the more the game goes

the more BMS goe pierce

you get 2 more BDr Buff uptimes

and you get 100% crit same as in live

[urban bridge]

but but

I like draw stance more

[drowsy palm]

srongest build != pref build

[brave pendant]

I see what's happening here. I want to lower the price of pierce books. You want to increase the price of pierce books since you are selling.

[drowsy palm]

im just talking about math

[burnt helm]

💀

[drowsy palm]

i dont care about €

[hard iris]

Lower the price of DT books

[burnt helm]

Throw your local poor BM (me) a purple

[sick bison]

Testing pierce on my Bm alt and it seems op, thanks to looking the rota up from your guide. Macro seems pretty hard to time though, what delays do you use for lb/tab/rb?

[burnt helm]

[hard iris]

Y’all should stop playing Bm and roll kfm

Kfm > Bm

[brave pendant]

I haven't seen a pierce book on market for a while now.

[hard iris]

Saw one ytd for 6.9k

[wooden rain]

Woosh

Your bp book is now scale ripper

[burnt helm]

Fk don't monkeys paw it

[brave pendant]

If I open bound DT or SS I'd be mad

can't even salvage them

[hard iris]

That’s just a sign to play DT then

High ping dt

[wooden rain]

Sure you can, 1 fragment

[odd dagger]

i wouldnt really say its the best by that , since hald only has 28 gm on puncture and pretty much always does same or higher than maria who has 48 gm pierce

[hard iris]

That’s what bns did to me, gave me a purple bound dt

[brave pendant]

the best one would be purp cyclone, so I can sell my current one for $$

or puncture and join the dark side

[wooden rain]

Salvaging purples is completely pointless in general now that you can only transmute leg and it takes 50 fragments

[odd dagger]

pierce is good in theory but will always fall behind puncture in actual gameplay

[hard iris]

DT> rest

[drowsy palm]

no xd

[jaunty lark]

anoither pierce discusion

Oh no

[hard iris]

No effort > effort

Rmb/macro > actual buttons

[brave pendant]

that is true

DT always wins in the end

[jaunty lark]

only button i need is rmb slasher ma boi

[hard iris]

Slasher

[drowsy palm]

ele saber best

[wooden rain]

Until you tank

[jaunty lark]

badge next patch, copium

[drowsy palm]

DT + ES + SS < any Draw + tab + lmb

my results are based on test + actual numbers

😉

[hard iris]

https://www.youtube.com/live/ZtfQ3GDMZO4?si=PjyqOUvxWb8RI9YP look at jhong he’s kfm outperforms every bm

[drowsy palm]

KFM > all

[hard iris]

Quit and play kfm sell ur books guys

[jaunty lark]

but test varies depending on ping and gear 🤔

[drowsy palm]

doing that!

[hard iris]

Start ur kfm now to future proof

[wooden rain]

I also tested and i disagree, i have all legs including future, source trust me

[somber dagger]

I need macro for heavenly slasher

[drowsy palm]

gear and ping doesnt matter

if the person is always the same

😉

[jaunty lark]

bruh

[drowsy palm]

and gear is max

[jaunty lark]

alright then

pls play with 200ms

[drowsy palm]

doesnt change ENDGAME facts

who care about 200 ms and siren gear

[jaunty lark]

it change when someon just CANT replicate eh scenario

[drowsy palm]

in endgame

[jaunty lark]

were something is stronger

its

literally basic logic

hear of it

[drowsy palm]

you cant even read right

[drowsy palm]

read this

[drowsy palm]

and this

[drowsy palm]

and this

im talking about endgame

[wooden rain]

What endgame? You mean a few months in the future when dt is buffed again after it already gets heat buff? Or the endgame a few more months later when dt gets yet another buff?

[jaunty lark]

i read it loud and clear

[drowsy palm]

both

calced with and without heat

[jaunty lark]

but whats is best will depend on the player scenario

doesnt matter if for local ping high end gear pierce is the best

[wooden rain]

Didn't even read kekw

[jaunty lark]

if one person cant never ever pull that off

even if the same person

if ping varies

[drowsy palm]

and i cant look what vcomes in the future after, we dont know if we get other leg books and so on

[jaunty lark]

result will change

[drowsy palm]

@jaunty lark if you argue like this

it doesnt matter what u play

[brave pendant]

it's clear high ping makes a lot of builds perform much suboptimally

[drowsy palm]

good player > bad player

[somber dagger]

so you leaving the game maria ?

[drowsy palm]

good ping > bad ping

[wooden rain]

Yes he's bns Mobile now

[drowsy palm]

im talking about equal geared, equal skilled, equal pinged comparison based on perfect rotations

thats the only comparsion that is worth to mention

[sage tulip]

me > all

[drowsy palm]

everything else is player specific and irrelevant

[brave pendant]

that's not irrelevant wtf

[drowsy palm]

not worth the talk

[brave pendant]

ping determines if you can play certain builds

[jaunty lark]

then whye the fck u tell about ping and gear doesnt matter

if u assume ping and gear is the same

hear ur own logic dude xd

[brave pendant]

like high ping players literally cannot even consider playing certain builds

[drowsy palm]

you are to brainrot to understand its ok

[jaunty lark]

.

im not being the brainrot here

[wooden rain]

He has been for the last month or 2, that's the problem

[drowsy palm]

ok tell me then

how would YOU

compare BUILDS

tell me.

[jaunty lark]

and pulling the brainrot arguemnt

jus show that ur brain is the one rotting mate

[drowsy palm]

i mean

[winged reef]

Pretty sure Maria is talking about theoretical best case scenario comparing builds

[jaunty lark]

i would no

[drowsy palm]

tell me

[odd dagger]

each build has to be compared different for different pings and diff gear

[winged reef]

How else can you compare them

[odd dagger]

ur tests apply to current end game

[drowsy palm]

you can theorize anything

[odd dagger]

at local ping

[jaunty lark]

bc EVERY PLAYER will have a diffenret perfomance

[drowsy palm]

you cant math

[odd dagger]

simple as that

[drowsy palm]

you cant argue correct

[jaunty lark]

EVERY player

u can have an stimate

but u cant make a general claim

and say ping and gear doesnt mater

[winged reef]

Doesn’t matter when it comes to what is best in numbers

[jaunty lark]

no one has said that pierce on paper is the best

is not*

[wooden rain]

Why don't you walk out of the bns community and into the engineering community with that one

[jaunty lark]

but is not something that every person will pull it off regardless of gear and ping as he said

[odd dagger]

still waiting for a pierce bm to out dps equal puncture gm

[brave pendant]

The only way that's fair is if we assume a player has 9 ping and is capable of playing all builds. which is pretty much a pointless comparison because that's like a tiny fraction of the playerbase?

[jaunty lark]

pretty much

[brave pendant]

it's a comparison that's irrelevant to a lot of people. sure you can do it and know what's best for yourself I guess

[wooden rain]

You forgot local + max gear, that's 5 people total

[jaunty lark]

hence why general guidelines are more suited, hence why recommendations depend on the player

[brave pendant]

but if a random person first comes in here and asks "what's the best build?" The answer is always "what's your ping" first

[jaunty lark]

but baffles me that someone that claims being logic, makes the statment that ping doesnt matter

its just, bruh

[drowsy palm]

still no answer

i asked how would you compare

and you cant deliver any answer

[urban bridge]

I'm with maria on this one tbh

You have to keep a constant variable in place to do proper comparisons

[winged reef]

Yes

[wooden rain]

The problem is the comparison is only theoretical

It's useless

[drowsy palm]

its not

i had theoretical and practial comparisons

[winged reef]

And it doesn’t invalidate that in certain scenarios some players will perform better with other builds

[drowsy palm]

with the same results

[winged reef]

But to compare a basis it needs to be equal

[brave pendant]

The comparison gives an answer that is pointless to most players

[drowsy palm]

if i am the one comparing on my gear and my ping

it doesnt matter

its an irrelevant variable

[wooden rain]

Then you have an answer that applies to you and nobody else

[odd dagger]

where did u do the comparisons on

[drowsy palm]

dummy + baylee + poh

• with sum + wiuthout sum

[odd dagger]

no wonder

baylee is so boosted for basic stance , poh if u are tanking is also soo much better for basic stance

[drowsy palm]

thats funny

[sage tulip]

[drowsy palm]

you assume focus issues on non block

[native vortex]

comparing on baylee and poh

[drowsy palm]

so should i assume focus issues now on ES DT anicancel?

[odd dagger]

there is no focus issues with purple tab

[native vortex]

this is true

[drowsy palm]

you guys keep on complaing about how i compare

but a) you have 0 ideas

[odd dagger]

7/7 , re tab

[drowsy palm]

b) you didnt do any test on your own

[jaunty lark]

and i said taking in account different context. Specifying context. Wasnt me the one that had difficulty reading?

we dont complain about how u test

[winged reef]

Been doing just fine in Bay Lee even with Lightning

[jaunty lark]

but about the absolute claims u made

just from ur pov

[winged reef]

Pretty much 100% uptime on dps sometimes

[brave pendant]

no point testing if DT is better or pierce is better on 80 ping. Even worse on higher ping

[wooden rain]

We're not answering the question directly because any direct answer is wrong, the answer is always it depends
If you actually read you'd see we're arguing what's behind the question

[brave pendant]

I already know DT and certain playstyles are not even worth considering at higher ping

[native vortex]

guys anyone on NA selling purple sun stroke

[brave pendant]

they'll never compare to someone with low ping

[hard iris]

Soon is my birthday can somebody gift me vt mystic dt or purple ss on EU

[urban bridge]

hmm I mean I get both sides but just because only some people can come to a similar conclusion due to different variables in play, doesn't necessary mean the result of one test is wrong or not needed

[brave pendant]

You are trying to come to an objective answer that one build is better than others. Like saying hybrid is the best BM build for example and it beats out all others. But that's a subjective answer to others because of ping.

[hard iris]

And what would the objective answer be

[wooden rain]

The problem is maria comes in every other day talking like his truth is absolute and unquestionable

He's god

[brave pendant]

It's near pointless to find that objective answer. It'll only be relevant to someone with similar ping as you

[trim knot]

I also see both sides and tbh, I think this could be simply resolved by saying something like X build is the best AT Y ping, while at a higher ping, build Z is better.

[hard iris]

What is objectively the best build and will outperform the other ones

[native vortex]

nah just keep arguing its funnier

W content

[hard iris]

U cant say they are all equally good

[winged reef]

Depends if you mean person specific or the objectively better build

[drowsy palm]

so result of last 15 minutes:
no test is useful, no comparison is useful. its not possible because all depends on personal enviroment. So you have to find out on your own whats best for your usecase and how you deal with it.

great

[brave pendant]

I'm guessing the best overall performing build for someone at low ping is hybrid or pure DT. But for people with higher ping they have to play pierce puncture R TAB T, for even higher ping like maybe slasher and TAB T focus dumping

[trim knot]

A build can be objectively better than others. But since we have ping and how it fluctuates drastically from a player to another, it becomes challenging to assign a build as the best one without mentioning which bracket of ping it performs in

[drowsy palm]

how can u say this then?

[hard iris]

So then the objectively best build according to u is DT or Hybrid

[wooden rain]

Well actually, the result is more swipe = win, better builds can't beat you if your gear is far above theirs

[brave pendant]

This is me saying puncture is just easier and more consistent compared to pierce

[trim knot]

I mean, yes, the builds that have access to legendary are without a doubt the best ones objectively. The question of subjectivity is only in terms of your ping.

[brave pendant]

also note, I only care about WB performance. Turtle is better for basic stance blockers while the meganura is just pain...

[wooden rain]

And the gear you can afford, and the patch you're playing

[drowsy palm]

so if you have the 2 biggest whales, both on same gear both swiped same, same luck , twins with same internet and same skill, who will win?

[jaunty lark]

conclusion: performance varies depending on lvl of investment AND ping. There are builds best suited for each scenario, but there isnt a total build. It can exist a guideline on what can perfomr best on each scenario, but it can set on absolute. It can be helped to orient ppl, not just say do this and thats all

[wooden rain]

The one who swiped most recently to beat the other

[odd dagger]

considering chald won 80% of the time on wb , i have to say puncture is better

[drowsy palm]

both swipe at same nanosec

[odd dagger]

with 28 gm puncture

[wooden rain]

Unfortunately for one of them, their item didn't arrive in mail and now they have to wait for support to respond

[burnt helm]

It's kinda hard to compare builds at every single stage tho

[hard iris]

So on paper, pierce is the best.
In practicality puncture is the best.

Hybrid is the worst pls sell ur books and buy pierce and puncture

[burnt helm]

Or so I think

[urban bridge]

Pls sell your DT books

hybrid is trash

[native vortex]

sell ur dts and also sell me ur purple sun stroke ty

[urban bridge]

don't play hybrid

[hard iris]

Yea hybrid sucks

Sell ur books

[wooden rain]

Well yeah that's the point

[trim knot]

I hate puncture ugh, sell me those books.

[hard iris]

Switch to kfm

[drowsy palm]

how is this possible mhm, i wonder

[brave pendant]

This comes down to boss mechanics for comparison then. Are there enough yellow attacks to trigger cyclone / vortex wave. Are there a lot of annoying stuff that draw stancers would hate to deal with. That's gonna be the difference there

[jaunty lark]

and to add: Saying absolutes should be avoide precisely bc the ppl that seeks most help tends to be the ones with less gear capabilities.

[wooden rain]

You swiped more than #2

[drowsy palm]

i agree

thats the conclusion i like

[brave pendant]

you have better ping than others. must be nice

[drowsy palm]

well

they have better than i got

but nice idea

[opaque sierra]

whats the most ping friendly build? are the hybrid builds any good for high ping?

[hard iris]

Pretty sure whole top 10 plays on sub 20 ping

So that statement is irrelevant

[drowsy palm]

damn

[opaque sierra]

i played both fire and lightning in live before and these new hybrid builds seem new and interesting but it looks a little ping unfriendly?

[drowsy palm]

fix my ping pls

[wooden rain]

Turn off your lag switch

[hard iris]

Nice 20fps mate

[drowsy palm]

thanks bud

[urban bridge]

You too? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1341530544353317006/1351391591171883089/image.png?ex=6805b67e&is=680464fe&hm=72a20f3fccf8721057ccac8d4adfa21ecaf5dbee7607614671386e3294538619& me too but mine was weeks ago before all the whales started swiping like crazy

[native vortex]

sulli

[drowsy palm]

then u need to swipe more bud

[urban bridge]

this was before sulli began swiping xD

[drowsy palm]

What about Nadu

[hard iris]

Swipe more, get better internet

[drowsy palm]

isnt he also top5?

[native vortex]

nadu my carry

go nadu

[brave pendant]

People above me probably have better ping and are whales

[urban bridge]

this was today, sulli and jas didn't do wb today

[hard iris]

What the dead server is this

[brave pendant]

2nd NA. 19 min WB kills. Not as bad as 3rd NA's 40 min

[hard iris]

Holy fkn hell

[native vortex]

[brave pendant]

actually, the thing that changes the rankings is how many AP orb buffs you can stack and keep it up without having it drop

[urban bridge]

^

[brave pendant]

if you get 20 stacks, easy game

[urban bridge]

thats mainly the thing yeah

[brave pendant]

if everyone steals your orbs, gg

[urban bridge]

if you get 20 stacks early

and maintain it

[hard iris]

U guys can stack AP? On EU that’s a dps loss

[urban bridge]

you pretty much trump everyone else

[brave pendant]

19 min fights. huge difference

[hard iris]

Crazy stuff

[native vortex]

2pm wb today

[urban bridge]

ah forgot its double wb on weekends

didn't do the first one

[drowsy palm]

Nadu best

[native vortex]

W nadu glaze

[urban bridge]

hm I guess weekend afternoon wb doesn't have as much people

since the % is much higher

than the evening ones

[spiral sky]

Do you

[urban bridge]

I have never seen my ping get this low before since I've started playing neo

nice

[sage tulip]

thats about 5 times higher than mine

[urban bridge]

I usually play on 72ms lol

[spiral sky]

U want to minmax dmg, play kfm

Simple

[jaunty lark]

Play sum, best class 👍

when u see a pupr in poha

b ruh

[hybrid willow]

hey what is the macro for lmb tab rmb (pierce/puncture) plz

[spiral sky]

Theres a korean video 3 man lab, kfm,sum and bm, the sum stayed 80% off the time with the bm cause kfm almost dps boths

[wooden rain]

Well the other options are siren wep/accs so why would you get excited

[jaunty lark]

at least woul be mats

still got not clue why those things exist

[wooden rain]

Dilute the chances of anything good dropping

While still having a bunch of drops and colors

[urban bridge]

I mean it could have been

a hongmoon essence, purple mantra, purple soul core

too

[odd dagger]

can cards drop in personal

[urban bridge]

nope

card is only group loot

[odd dagger]

[winged reef]

Solo

Then its personal

[merry prairie]

How much for all the bm gear?

[somber dagger]

There is a channel for neo market on discord ?

Buying purple HS 10k

[hybrid willow]

all my lmb tab rmb need to have same cast or its normal

[minor crypt]

BD for pierce? With sun stroke?

[odd dagger]

what is bro cooking with cyclone stacking

[odd dagger]

lb and tab should be same

[hybrid willow]

what i need to do

g is rmb

put more or less

[winged reef]

I’m stacking shoulder charges

I’m punch people so hard in their guts they die instantly

[jaunty lark]

A superior mind that qe cannot comprenhend

Stack Take flight. Throw them so hard they go out of orbit 👍

[bronze bolt]

should be more even

[hybrid willow]

but know i need to understand how i always keep focus

[odd dagger]

ya dunno what hes cooking with cyclone

[odd dagger]

thats the neat part

u dont

pray that u have enough stuff to block

so u can keep proccing cyclone

or have fissure up

and Z / 2 V / V

why does training base have so much adds, will never know if someone is doing actual dps or dps farming on adds

i do wonder if people jump to latest channel to get easier buff balls

[somber dagger]

Buying purple HS 10k

[burnt helm]

Honestly a great idea ?

If it works

[winged reef]

I prefer channels with less people too. Less laggy, more orbs

[mild quartz]

İs there any cheap build is viable as i started new and im behind so cant find groups cant do even dailies

İ did build starter normal stance build but cant even pass mushin 1st floor

[spiral sky]

Green fire build

[spiral sky]

https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="TraitView"&p="NEOEU120325"&class="BladeMaster"&spec=0&neoSkills="H4sIAAwLBWgAA2vaEpyak5pckpoSnJ2Zk5OUn5_tmVI8tXGRZwo_iEgAEeEgQgNEiG0EK_NNLC5JLaoMLkksSW3chiIENi0zP6-4AQBeE09uWwAAAA"

Can start with this

[little moat]

10k lmao

[spiral sky]

Got free 1,3k yesterday

With that poh ring

[somber dagger]

quick question

for heavenly slasher build

how much crit u need

[little moat]

0

[somber dagger]

3.2k doesn't seem enough

[little moat]

U block, U cyclone

U hold erb

[somber dagger]

yeah well testing on the dummy

is not approriate I guess

[little moat]

HS doesnt need crit

But crit make dmg go up

[somber dagger]

what

oh ok

[odd dagger]

good weap though

[jaunty lark]

more crit more spam

[odd dagger]

more crit = less focus = more hs

[jaunty lark]

👍

[little moat]

True but fk that LOL

[somber dagger]

ok

so I guess I need to crank up my crit rate

like to 3.6k

[jaunty lark]

i mean

the higher the better

but u dont need to go full balls fck everything else on it

[somber dagger]

I just got my purple HS btw it does make a WHOLE difference

[odd dagger]

yes it does

[somber dagger]

My next goal is probably to get all my blue hs to purple hs

to increase even more dps

the build is fun btw

I don't see a lot of people using it either

they all go fire

or hybrid

[little moat]

It has a reason

[odd dagger]

its cause it doesnt do as much dps

if u have playable ping

[jaunty lark]

lower ceiling

if u gonna invest and are super duper low ping endgame yada yada

prolly u could get moreout of anything

but if u enjoy, slasher is hella fun

[somber dagger]

now a last question

why they didn't make any badge for HS

[jaunty lark]

bc they hate us Lmao

[somber dagger]

is it so strong that none are needed ?

[little moat]

It can use any badge

Isnt that great?!

[jaunty lark]

prolly it was something not planned

[somber dagger]

I mean do you think they will add badges for HS at some point ?

[jaunty lark]

we didnt get all the badges at once on live

[somber dagger]

It seems weird to have 2 empty slots or 2 badges unrelated to the build sitting in f3 xD

[jaunty lark]

tho here soulbadge are way different, all of them its just "u hit more with this skill"

but if u have a rotation or skill that can compensate for that extra scaling, u can hold it a bit more

same way of why it exist a badge for electric saber

you design first a concept, and then react at how the community uses and evolves that concept

tho sadly we are under ncsoft, so i doubt a lot on the react part

[somber dagger]

well I could totally see a badge for HS

to increase casting speed

[odd dagger]

saber badge is cool

[somber dagger]

or something like that

maybe it is just me but it's a bit slow

[jaunty lark]

but not what would u expect, since all flicker variants are more like on a secondary plane

[somber dagger]

between two HS

two hs super fast then slow

let's say I do 4 hs

[jaunty lark]

it may be piong related

[somber dagger]

2 hs super fast

then 2 hs slow

[jaunty lark]

avg ratio is 3.2 hits/sec

[jaunty lark]

aaah

but that is with purple

or when u had blue?

[odd dagger]

i use saber tab for 1st 9 sec of bdr during blade call

is nice

[somber dagger]

when I use fissure at the same time

[odd dagger]

with that badge

[somber dagger]

I turn in a machine gun hammer

[jaunty lark]

with fissure its weird

ah ye

then it is the same

prolly is bc u are getting a roll of 3 focus

[somber dagger]

I guess if I get purple fissure it will be even better ?

[jaunty lark]

hence why u get a bit more delay

[jaunty lark]

ye

[somber dagger]

it's 4k for purple fissure

[odd dagger]

ya purp fissure + high crit makes it almost focus neutral per sec

[somber dagger]

I gotta save a bit lol

[jaunty lark]

Im on blue HS still, and i noticed i get it slower when im just spamming, bc maybe one proc didnt crit so the game sees as im gonna go out of ffocus

[somber dagger]

Build is still very playable with blue fissure

but I guess I will focus on getting purple fissure first

[odd dagger]

ya u need minimum 3 focus

for it to stay boosted

[somber dagger]

before getting more purple hs

also it's weird how

the focus bar is 10

and not a multiple of 3

[jaunty lark]

i mean

all purp skills end up as a 2 cost

pierce is 2 cost, puncture becomes 2. HS becomes 2 on spam

[odd dagger]

hs 1 on crit best skill fr

[jaunty lark]

we gonna get a badge, trust 🙏

around 2030, but we will get it, lmao

[somber dagger]

not a badge we need 2 badges haha

one for lunar strike

one for HS

[odd dagger]

lunar tab badge

[jaunty lark]

anyway, all badges are just extra dmg

i kinda miss the "fancy weird things" of the live soul badges

[odd dagger]

ya live badges are books now

[jaunty lark]

ye, pretty much

WHERE IS MY LIGHTNING DRAGON LIGHTNING TAB THEN

[odd dagger]

coming on legendary tab

[jaunty lark]

[dusty flare]

Hi hi is it worth anything?

[wooden rain]

it's BiS 4 i believe for most builds but it's not a core skill for anything

[ruby palm]

Raw damage vs defense shread. The extra crit is not bad for the builds needing high crit to maintain focus

[somber dagger]

U think I can get a purple fissure for 2k ?

[ruby palm]

NA has had 2 sitting at ~6k for a couple days now

Dunno if itll go down all the way to 2k tho

3k sounds more reasonable if you find out who is selling

[dusty flare]

Yea so I can't expect to sell it for much

[dusty flare]

I see BMs with DT build using it

Idk if that would be worth it for me to use since I use DT build too

[somber dagger]

yeah if they wanna go full dps

but purple searing flash better

cause it lower boss defense

which is huge

[lyric harness]

you know scarlet is useless don't do it :(

guys sell me your thunder drake slashes on NA NOW

[odd dagger]

wait dark fully abandon fire?

[jaunty lark]

he is a tab stack enjoyer now

[somber dagger]

wait breeze or cyclone on HS build ?

[jaunty lark]

ill uses breeze, doesnt seem to go as bad. He charges with lmb+tab and goes to full spam HS again

tho that also means u already have some heavy investment in HS i suppose

[lyric harness]

just do the bug abuse with auto attacks cancelled by spamming escape into your combo

looks wonky but it's faster

[jaunty lark]

cancelled with escape, huh

[lyric harness]

yeah try it

spam left click and escape you'll see what i mean

don't escape escape you freak

the escape key

[main inlet]

[odd dagger]

i used to hate group of mobs when i was fire

now i love them

free dmg pumping

[jaunty lark]

DPS farming,

POG

[jaunty lark]

i'll check it later, so would be lmb esc tab or what

[trim knot]

Sell me it lil ma

[dusty flare]

Hello big fan

[little moat]

@gilded thistle @sage tulip Fancy some CS?

[lyric harness]

yeah just esc right after your auto

[wooden rain]

i'd also join that

[trim knot]

Hi bigger fan 😍

OH ITS YOU KURURYRURU

[sage tulip]

sure

[little moat]

Pog

Give me a min, just finishing BBR ;d

[lyric harness]

list this 12k each I'll buy 4 :)

[sage tulip]

angel online

[little moat]

And wants to join

[winter acorn]

Wtb auto cyclone 20k(na)

[dusty flare]

Hell yea ty for the carry the other day lmao

[dusty flare]

Even more so in this patch

[little moat]

Omg

Party wide dc lol

[wooden rain]

rip servers

[odd dagger]

cinderlands

[sage tulip]

i didnt dc !

[winged reef]

Same

I feel like I won the lottery

[trim knot]

You sellin that stone slash or nah?

[bronze bolt]

Wait can you macro this tech into lmb+tab or lmb+tab+rmb?

[dusty flare]

Yes I am

[odd dagger]

btw patch did purple tab come

[lyric harness]

ya haha

[trim knot]

@dusty flare check dms lil mama

[lyric harness]

if you get the timing right, you can flow into the next auto/tab even faster

[bronze bolt]

Hollayy

I gotta try this out when I get home.

[lyric harness]

yeah it goes hard the downside is moving your screen while doing it, is a bit weird

there might be something to do with that

holy they're about to have the sex

anyways guys sell me your on NAa

[winged reef]

In EU there are 2 for 7k

But I can’t afford them rip

[lyric harness]

cringe because im buying them for 12k a pop on NA

and they're listing them for 15k

pretty sure I'm the only person buying these anyways on NA

because everyone else is being a puncture meta rat

[winged reef]

We have to make them believe Lightning does negative dps so they sell it for 1k instead

[lyric harness]

facts wow guys lightning at 22 stacks I'm only pulling 5k dps

elp

[winged reef]

Same I can’t complete Mushins Tower, wipe at floor 2

Think I’m gonna quit…

[lyric harness]

OMG i hate floor 2

[odd dagger]

ask onion

[lyric harness]

why is it so overtuned

[odd dagger]

ikr 10 years

[winged reef]

I hit the boss and it regains HP, that’s how bad it is for me

[lyric harness]

okay see I was wondering if that was a bug because on my lightning blade master when I use my thunder drake slash I see green numbers on the boss it's weird it's almost like I'm healing the boss

[somber dagger]

WTB purple Fissure 2k

[winged reef]

It does so little damage that the boss regeneration overshadows the damage done by TDS. I hope everyone lists their purple books for 1k so that I can discard and get rid of them…

[lyric harness]

I did poh yesterday and they kicked me saying sorry you're so ugly for playing lightning blade master please sewer slide

anyways guys list your thunder drake slashes for 12k

[winged reef]

I had a funny bug in poh yesterday, I did so much negative damage I had aggro instead. Something to do with negative overflows I heard

[lyric harness]

I saw that on reddit actually yeah

[trim knot]

If anyone has a purple pierce NA for sale lmk xo

[lyric harness]

yeah DM him guys

[somber dagger]

WTB purple fissure EU 2k

[bronze bolt]

What's the damage difference for you guys between winter/bloodmane?

2-4k?

[little moat]

Havent made a blue book in a week

Wtf game...

[spiral sky]

3/3 yesterday

[odd dagger]

18k cs , 15k blood

[sage tulip]

whats ur gear

oh nvm

im

cooked

[little moat]

18k cs 0 blood

[sage tulip]

😭

wait im not

[sage tulip]

gear?

[ruby palm]

^ Same for me

51 with 1.1k acc still happens to evade the most crucial skills

but it is what it is

[bronze bolt]

Damnit guess it's just skill issue for me. Thanks, I'll try to improve my uptime.

[odd dagger]

just /who Skyrus

[sage tulip]

[odd dagger]

i mean u should able to do easily

u are def stronger than my tab stacking bm

[little moat]

[gilded thistle]

[river token]

btw guys, does this badge also work on puncture?

[odd dagger]

nop

[river token]

so no badge at all for puncture badge, i see

[little moat]

Holy mother of AP

[sage tulip]

xdd

im getting that

!

[little moat]

Me too!

\

Prepping for succes

[gilded thistle]

Im close

[sage tulip]

[little moat]

[gilded thistle]

[odd dagger]

i wonder if

noush has it

[sage tulip]

nah

[merry prairie]

what is this bug

[little moat]

Wtf 2m

[sage tulip]

[little moat]

So fast

[merry prairie]

I clearly didn't clear it in 2min lol, dunno why it says that

[odd dagger]

no need to be humble

[somber dagger]

WTB Purple Fissure 2k

[river token]

WTB dt mystic badge EU or a will to live

[hard iris]

https://i.imgur.com/eMs7VcV.png

[jaunty lark]

@lyric harness i get what u said of the esc thing

but the heck, all menus pop up

lmao

[winged reef]

How much piercing do you actually need, even at lvl 51 I still hit lower than on a dummy on chef and poh

[hollow karma]

what software is this?

[hard iris]

razer synapse

dogsht software

[twin lark]

Is this when the enemy evades or you evade?

[wooden rain]

enemy

[twin lark]

This translation sucks

[hard iris]

what's teh current price for purple ss on eu?

[sage tulip]

yesterday one sold for 30k

[wooden rain]

ridiculous that purples got more expensive this patch

[hard iris]

alright thanks mina

[sage tulip]

yeah idk

bit too much for me

[hard iris]

it's fine nth I can do asides from saving and getting it

but it's gonna boost my dps nicely once I get it 💪

which card set should I start working towards atp?

https://i.imgur.com/eGN8m7b.png I wish I could sell that

[jaunty lark]

failed 3 more ss psyches, failed try to awakened neck, failes 4 blue gamblas

good summary 👍

[trim knot]

for the pierce build, is blade call the option to go for or should I simply have an extra pierce and utilize the base flock of blade synergy with the mystic badge?

[brave pendant]

Purp bladecall gives 3 seconds of BD. seems ok

[hard iris]

I wonder as well if blade call is even worth it, it feel pretty underwhelming, thinking of removing it for anotehr stack

[trim knot]

o purple, right right. that's awesome. <3 ty.

[brave pendant]

does not trigger flock mystic badge though

[little moat]

Blade call is nice dmg.

[trim knot]

np, seems like pierce won't really use a mystic badge then huh

[jaunty lark]

they said flock may get bd buff aswell on future patches

pupr flock ofc

[trim knot]

Oh, nice, got one from bound book haha

[trim knot]

Waiiiit that's hella huge for pierce/punc.

[wooden rain]

puncture doesn't use buff

[trim knot]

ooops I menat pierce only~

So this happened in KR?

[jaunty lark]

this is KR patch ye

u can actually check kr skills on yast

[trim knot]

Ahhhh that's fire. Nice. :3

I will prob sell my mystic badge rn

Since I'll go purp blade call eventually

I thought I'd wait but idk when we'll get that change. v.v

[lyric harness]

bump I'm buying these on NA 12k each

[covert silo]

where is dark magician

[rain nimbus]

Here

[bronze bolt]

I missed you baby girl.

You still stacking lunar combo?

[rain nimbus]

Yes

[covert silo]

im a big fan dark magician

[rain nimbus]

I just woke up

[covert silo]

i heard about you through the grapevine

good morning king

[bronze bolt]

New tech for lmb-tab. Apparently you can press ESC to make it come out faster? I have to test this when I get home lol.

[rain nimbus]

what'd you hear?

[rain nimbus]

keep me updated?

[covert silo]

i heard you were a pioneer in bm builds

paving the frontier

[bronze bolt]

@rain nimbus this one.

Dark is THE blade master.

First name John, last name Blademaster.

[hard iris]

Re-Roll Master would be more fitting

[burnt helm]

interesting, pressing ESC reverts blaze into cyclone

[rain nimbus]

rename yourself to cyclone

[gleaming pewter]

dark u went from purple puncture to lmb tab only

thats like playing maplestory and going from 4th job to 1st job

chad

[burnt helm]

harhar'

[wooden rain]

https://youtu.be/icoe0kK8btc?si=Qsed1yK6GgubGOHT

[rain nimbus]

not enough crit

didnt have cyclone lmb

wonky macro

deals with ping desync issues

tab doesnt

tab has none of those issues

even hybrid too which i did like which was my last build the other day

[wooden rain]

See the difference is other people adapt or work around issues

[rain nimbus]

you dont understand me fully

i wanted to try builds to see if i would like them

just like hybrid

so yeah ill switch and go try them

its the only way i have to "switch" to try them

@grizzled gale @spiral sky do we not use fissure/stone slash ?

[wooden rain]

Right well the other difference is other people don't have 100k sitting around to swap hands like that

[spiral sky]

no

[grizzled gale]

no

[spiral sky]

just tab/scarlet/hmblock

[rain nimbus]

its a dps loss? 2 books?

[spiral sky]

and stop inflate market

u just bouth 3 books

[bronze bolt]

💀 💀

[spiral sky]

it was going under 1k

[rain nimbus]

says who

[spiral sky]

me

im watching everything

ur not using accs right now

[rain nimbus]

anyways.. im surprised fissure stoneslash would be considered a dps loss

[bronze bolt]

Unless you get really unlucky, just lmb-tab shouldn't have any focus issues.

[rain nimbus]

no i meant just press fissure or stone slash for the dots

[spiral sky]

default stuffs

already regen enough

[rain nimbus]

i was talking for damage not focus

[grizzled gale]

honestly even lightning rod is a dps loss I feel like

[rain nimbus]

i dont like flock anyways

ty!

[grizzled gale]

you gotta weave in flock for focus occasionally

[rain nimbus]

focus?

at 3k crit i dont have focus issues

[bronze bolt]

If you get unlucky, you will.

[spiral sky]

grab visual bug

[grizzled gale]

I guess if you're using detect you wouldn't have as much

[bronze bolt]

It's rare though.

[grizzled gale]

but I do run out sometimes

[spiral sky]

u just tabed 3 times in the air

rip focus

[rain nimbus]

i kinda wanna be that guy

and have lmb hmb all tabs

but boot kd 😦

[bronze bolt]

You already are that guy.

You're John Blademaster.

You are Him.

[rain nimbus]

yeah cuz im going back to es got my purple ss

/s tho

[spiral sky]

sell me ur tabs

and go for it

[rain nimbus]

i gotta go to the bank..

[gleaming pewter]

cant relate i play manual on puncture

[rain nimbus]

manual

[gleaming pewter]

no macro

[rain nimbus]

ik thats weird

who doesnt use a macro

[gleaming pewter]

someone who wants to not get bored holding one button in a game where the only redeeming factor is the combat system 🤔

[rain nimbus]

play kfm

[spiral sky]

kfm got hit real bad

on rk

kr

[north burrow]

anyone who wants to actually play the game

[jaunty lark]

me

fck macros

[burnt helm]

there's more to the game than a simple rotation though

[jaunty lark]

i dont play bns to play a simple aaah one button shenanigans

[north burrow]

like what

they removed all mechanics from bosses in neo

[burnt helm]

in an ideal world, dodging blocking whatever, class might also have other buttons to press

[gleaming pewter]

im pretty sure manual executed perfectly will always have higher ceiling than macroing too

[burnt helm]

pierce isn't simply just lmb tab rmb

[north burrow]

just play DT if you want to hold 1 button

that's why the build exists

[rain nimbus]

or tab lmb

[north burrow]

well that's not a real build so i don't count that

[gleaming pewter]

dont break that truth to him after he just marathoned every bm build

[craggy hawk]

yall gonna make him reroll classes atp

[north burrow]

i don't think it takes a genius to realise that a build missing a whole extra button compared to 2 other builds that use the same core

isn't actually going to be good

[gleaming pewter]

nah hes the goat

[rain nimbus]

but it can work

just have to have higher stats than other builds i guess

[north burrow]

ok but then if you add pierce/puncture to it you do even more

[rain nimbus]

i mean

that was the goal

[north burrow]

i don't think tab/lmb only will ever come close to 20k dps for example

[rain nimbus]

but i went puncture first instead of cyclone

so i fked myself

[north burrow]

how

it's still playable without cyclone, it just makes it more consistent lol

[vale idol]

https://tenor.com/xGSu.gif

[jaunty lark]

its a pain in the ass to play w/o cyclone

can play it? ye

but having cyclone is day and night

[north burrow]

sure but it's still playable with 60% cr

obviously 70% with cyclone is better

but it works

[jaunty lark]

its awful with 60

[north burrow]

and will still be better than tab lmb only

[rain nimbus]

i think ill try puncture again

on 2 conditions

[jaunty lark]

and from whatve got from other ppl

[rain nimbus]

1 being cyclone lmb

2 being purple tab

[jaunty lark]

if u have slightly high ping

[rain nimbus]

15 crit right there

[jaunty lark]

it can be more notorious

[spiral sky]

i will get punc from purple box

copium

[rain nimbus]

you want puncture?

[gleaming pewter]

puncture build is playable without cyclone lmb but puncture build isnt playable without purple puncture..

[bronze bolt]

For me personally, I started using lmb+tab+rmb (green pierce) around 1.8k crit?

[spiral sky]

thats why i changed from pierce

[bronze bolt]

It got smoother and smoother since I added more crit and got purple cyclone.

[spiral sky]

cyclone lmb u need only one

and ur set

punc need a bunch for statcks

cause this game sux on design

[native vortex]

purple puncture to tab lmb is crazy work

ngl

[gleaming pewter]

does anyone have a vod of bm tanking the twins in bsh2?

hae is like 100x easier to tank in comparison

[brave pendant]

tanking scarlet or cobalt? Scarlet I figured out her attack patterns

[gleaming pewter]

scarlets easier for me i think

but yeah either / scarlet vod

[vale idol]

dont they swap classes anyway

[gleaming pewter]

scarlets attacks are quicker

the aoe too

[vale idol]

🤔

they do swap between kfm/fm no?

[gleaming pewter]

yeah

[native vortex]

cobalt ice red aoe takes like

5-7 business days to go off

[jaunty lark]

welp xd

[hard iris]

trolling

ppl been spamming that all day long

they figured out hwo to link from probability list

[jaunty lark]

fr?

[odd dagger]

u can jst ping from box

[jaunty lark]

ye, i just saw

now there is a lot of ppl spamming lmao

[native vortex]

wtt legendary dragontongue for purple stroke

[wooden rain]

Same bro

[wooden rain]

Legendary 🤔

[trim knot]

Anyone playing pierce/puncture having issues with focus recovery? Is the answer to get mroe crit rate? I got 3.3k, purp cyclone, purp stone slash atm and still missing a lot of focus. :>

[rain nimbus]

fissure? soaring falcon? rush?

[trim knot]

Got, got, nope. :<

[rain nimbus]

idk then 🤷‍♀️

[jaunty lark]

purp fissure solves a lot

but ye, build is focus hungry af

[trim knot]

Perhaps it might be my rotation

[brave pendant]

nope I'm still having focus issues at 3.9k crit. it does not get better

Finally I'm trying vortex wave but it just feels like my R TAB T rotation is getting gutted at times

[trim knot]

Ouch..