✅RenoDX: Unreal Engine | HDR Den | Page 11

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:13 PM

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that auto upgrades b8g8r8a8 + rgb10

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:13 PM

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Anyway, here's with Lilium's goodies on.

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:13 PM

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void AddStellarBladeUpgrades() {
  renodx::mods::swapchain::swap_chain_upgrade_targets.push_back({
      .old_format = reshade::api::format::r10g10b10a2_unorm,
      .new_format = reshade::api::format::r16g16b16a16_float,
      .use_resource_view_cloning = true,
  });

  renodx::mods::swapchain::swap_chain_upgrade_targets.push_back({
      .old_format = reshade::api::format::b8g8r8a8_typeless,
      .new_format = reshade::api::format::r16g16b16a16_float,
      .use_resource_view_cloning = true,
  });
}

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:13 PM

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yeah, her thighs are bright, robot exists in a sad SDR universe

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:13 PM

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spare bane yeah, her thighs are bright, robot exists in a sad SDR universe

probably a dimm texture

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:13 PM

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So, just a game thing

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We good?

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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seems like it

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I'm confused why blue correct was griefed

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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yep 🙏

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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I thought it doesnt matter

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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I need to find some source that is maxing out nits, though

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I'm only going around 600, lol

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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might have to ramp up highlights, or mess with contrast

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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btw shortfuse

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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660-ish, too.

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:14 PM

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what about

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whiteclip 65.f

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I've been meaning to add it forever

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:15 PM

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whiteclip in general is better per game

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this looks like a 10-15 game

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:15 PM

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possibly

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:15 PM

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sad SDR bot

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:15 PM

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we can add a slider in the future

unborn verge May 30, 2025, 11:15 PM

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red fire

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:15 PM

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A quick question.

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:15 PM

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since finch works ima assume tekken 7 works

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fuck it all to github

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:16 PM

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If I max out peak slider brightness slider here, and my max nits reach 800 then.

That's intended?

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Like at 4000, I'll see it go towards 800 from 600.

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That's normal?

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In current scene I'm on, I'm sure some other sources might have more, but just curious.

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:16 PM

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that's that's because it's leaving room for 800-4000

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you can adjust that curve with highlight slider and leave less room

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the white clip we were saying would also double as that

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:17 PM

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Menu goes to ~800 with 800 peak nits set in addon, so I guess it's working as intended.

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:17 PM

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spare bane the white clip we were saying would also double as that

Gotcha

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I was just making sure addon was working as intended for peaks, which in menu it seems to.

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Which means I just need to find in-game sources going brighter than her thighs, lol.

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:18 PM

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yeah, whiteclip is set to 100, so you'd need to find something at 10000 nits untonemapped to hit peak

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which is what we were saying if we lower whiteclip to like 3000 nits, then untonemapped 3000 = peak

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:18 PM

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@spare bane ready to merge:
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/pull/248

viscid mirage May 30, 2025, 11:18 PM

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spare bane the white clip we were saying would also double as that

Having a display mapper with a proper highlight shoulder would probably be better than outright clipping stuff

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Clipping just to get higher APL seems like a bad choice

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:19 PM

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if you're thinking dice, dice is worse

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:19 PM

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I setup dev(unrealengine): pipeline layout fix rework as a seperate commit; so incase that needs to get reverted; we got history

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:19 PM

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dice white clip is like 4.0 for sdr

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everything has a white clip

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:19 PM

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I like musa's function

bold gulch May 30, 2025, 11:19 PM

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Log2 dice 🐐

viscid mirage May 30, 2025, 11:19 PM

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but its like 4x of your peak

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:19 PM

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maxcll exponential rolloff

viscid mirage May 30, 2025, 11:19 PM

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so it would maybe clip at 3200 nits for 800 peak

bold gulch May 30, 2025, 11:20 PM

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Maxcll tonemapping is good for sdr lut sampling

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The final output shouldn’t use maxcll tonemap cause it can look off

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:20 PM

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everything clips, just it's definable in the reinhard setup

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you don't define whiteclip 4.0 with dice for sdr, but it's there

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:22 PM

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bold gulch Log2 dice 🐐

I wonder if the lerp @viscid mirage and I do would be better done in log2() like your dice

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:22 PM

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you can graph it on desmos

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:22 PM

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@elfin lance explain something to me.

When I disable in-game HDR, I lose all the calibration sliders from in the game.

And when I'm using like RenoDX UE addon, it basically does it all for me auto, and I just need to adjust peak? That's usually the go-to setup, right?

This is my second game with Reno UE, so I'm curious. Normally the in-game HDR stays enabled like in case of MH Wilds/AC Shadows.

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:22 PM

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color = lerp(exp2((log2(untonemapped), log2(displaymapped), saturate(oklab-L));

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:22 PM

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left narwhal <@664732951724032001> explain something to me. When I disable in-game HDR, I lo...

what

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:23 PM

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I need to run the game in SDR in order to use RenoDX UE addon, right?

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:23 PM

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yes

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when I mess around with the output shader stuff

viscid mirage May 30, 2025, 11:23 PM

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bold gulch Maxcll tonemapping is good for sdr lut sampling

for certain games, the unintended dice hue shifts seem better for lut sampling (because of some clipped color channels)

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:23 PM

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might be able to run the game in "native hdr"

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:23 PM

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viscid mirage but its like 4x of your peak

blue is dice, hits red soonest, white clips soonest

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:23 PM

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but for reno; just make sure the game is in sdr, and in reno just set your peak

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game game nits/ui nits to w/e you want

bold gulch May 30, 2025, 11:24 PM

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viscid mirage for certain games, the unintended dice hue shifts seem better for lut sampling (...

I usually like to display map per channel at the end which gets me hue shifts

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:24 PM

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does anybody have tekken7 downloaded

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:24 PM

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elfin lance game game nits/ui nits to w/e you want

So, sliders like these from in-game, get replaced with these sliders in the addon?

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:24 PM

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i haven't explored max-channel but by luminance has issues with bright mixed channels (yellow/cyan)

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:25 PM

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left narwhal So, sliders like these from in-game, get replaced with these sliders in the addo...

what no

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dont mess with any game sliders

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forget they eixst

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leave them all at default

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:25 PM

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I don't have any game sliders, bro. Game is in SDR.

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:25 PM

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when using reno dx

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:25 PM

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left narwhal So, sliders like these from in-game, get replaced with these sliders in the addo...

HDR is broken in this game, we don't bother. we could, but we don't bother.

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:25 PM

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never move any game sliders

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leave them at their default values always

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:25 PM

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hdr in this game doesn't any of the SDR color grading, just flat ACES

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SDR version has like 40 parameters, HDR has 2

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:26 PM

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spare bane HDR is broken in this game, we don't bother. we could, but we don't bother.

Right, what I'm trying to understand is that if a game is providing you calibration tools to adjust things with its sliders etc.

We ignore them when we're using RenoDX UE, in which case, to adjust/calibrate or w/e, we use the sliders in the RenoDX Addon, right? But by large, it's good OOTB so you just set peak and off to races?

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And I'm asking that generally, not just for Stellar Blade, btw.

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:26 PM

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yes

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all games

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ignore all sliders

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:26 PM

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when talking HDR, it depends on the hdr implementation of the game. with CP2077 i can salvage it. for UE, you probably can't

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:26 PM

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Right

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:27 PM

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messing with sliders in game will only break reno

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for example a brightness slider in a game might be a gamma offset; which will grief

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hell in UE brightness is always a gamma offset

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:27 PM

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Game specific addons usually keep the game in native HDR anyway like MH Wilds and AC Shadows, which is all I've tried with Reno so far.

And with UE, we replace it all.

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:27 PM

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if you do see SDR gamma/brightness/contrast you should leave it default/alone

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:27 PM

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in per-game mods we usually kill the sliders, so they do nothing

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:27 PM

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Right, okay

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Anything I wanna do, I just do it in Reno addon.

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:27 PM

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but yea no more meme marat builds; just waiting for shortfuse to merge; and in half an hour generic UE should work

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:27 PM

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If I wanna fuck with sliders.

cobalt marlin May 30, 2025, 11:27 PM

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Speaking of sliders, did you figure out why Jusant's UI brightness one messes up stuff when set to around 100 and lower ShortFuse ?

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:28 PM

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Cause it essentially replaces the in-game sliders with those?

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:28 PM

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yes

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:28 PM

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Gotcha

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:28 PM

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sometimes a per-game mod might have a note

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"set X slider to Y"

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:28 PM

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cobalt marlin Speaking of sliders, did you figure out why Jusant's UI brightness one messes up...

shouldn't be any different

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:28 PM

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Yeee

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:28 PM

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but outside of a note; dont mess with sliders

cobalt marlin May 30, 2025, 11:28 PM

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spare bane shouldn't be any different

I mean RenoDX slider

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:28 PM

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elfin lance but yea no more meme marat builds; just waiting for shortfuse to merge; and in h...

Kk, LMK when up and I'll test it.

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:29 PM

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left narwhal Kk, LMK when up and I'll test it.

you already tested it

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:29 PM

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I thought you posted a new build after the one I tested.

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:29 PM

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the version I sent you is whats getting merged

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:29 PM

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And that's the one getting merged.

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:29 PM

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with the good colors

left narwhal May 30, 2025, 11:29 PM

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Ah, okay

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Nice

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:29 PM

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cobalt marlin I mean RenoDX slider

it's just a ratio: game/ui. that's what it cares about. so it being 100 or so shouldn't matter. maybe it can conflict with alpha transparencies though

cobalt marlin May 30, 2025, 11:29 PM

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Yeah that would explain it

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:29 PM

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but ye asince we're talking about

cobalt marlin May 30, 2025, 11:30 PM

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spare bane it's just a ratio: game/ui. that's what it cares about. so it being 100 or so sh...

Unfortunate

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:30 PM

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displaymapping, can we please get expoential maxcll in tonemap.hlsl

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:30 PM

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link?

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:30 PM

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1s

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I've been a big fan of it

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been testing it on stuff with adrian

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works really well with my lerp

austere pike May 30, 2025, 11:33 PM

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fyi marat it works with dlss on now. No idea why after not working earlier, but whatever

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:33 PM

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as long as it works

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kekwsit

austere pike May 30, 2025, 11:33 PM

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lmao trueee

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did you touch the ingame gamma setting at all btw?

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:35 PM

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no!

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never touch ingame sliders, leave them default!

austere pike May 30, 2025, 11:36 PM

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yeah I assumed so, just gotta make sure

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:36 PM

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maybe shortfuse can update the pin here

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ok I figured out what was wrong with my og untoenamppedap1

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  float _820 = mad(_27, _817, mad(_26, _815, (_813 * _25)));
  float _823 = mad(_30, _817, mad(_29, _815, (_813 * _28)));
  float _826 = mad(_33, _817, mad(_32, _815, (_813 * _31)));

is "extra" shit

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or ue4 shit

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float _813 = ((_699 * (((cb0_050x + cb0_065x) + _597) + (((cb0_049x * cb0_064x) * _606) * exp2(log2(exp2(((cb0_047x * cb0_062x) * _624) * log2(max(0.0f, ((((cb0_046x * cb0_061x) * _633) * _523) + _449)) * 5.55555534362793f)) * 0.18000000715255737f) * (1.0f / ((cb0_048x * cb0_063x) * _615)))))) + (_588 * (((cb0_050x + cb0_055x) + _463) + (((cb0_049x * cb0_054x) * _477) * exp2(log2(exp2(((cb0_047x * cb0_052x) * _505) * log2(max(0.0f, ((((cb0_046x * cb0_051x) * _519) * _523) + _449)) * 5.55555534362793f)) * 0.18000000715255737f) * (1.0f / ((cb0_048x * cb0_053x) * _491))))))) + ((((cb0_050x + cb0_060x) + _708) + (((cb0_049x * cb0_059x) * _717) * exp2(log2(exp2(((cb0_047x * cb0_057x) * _735) * log2(max(0.0f, ((((cb0_046x * cb0_056x) * _744) * _523) + _449)) * 5.55555534362793f)) * 0.18000000715255737f) * (1.0f / ((cb0_048x * cb0_058x) * _726))))) * _802);
  float _815 = ((_699 * (((cb0_050y + cb0_065y) + _597) + (((cb0_049y * cb0_064y) * _606) * exp2(log2(exp2(((cb0_047y * cb0_062y) * _624) * log2(max(0.0f, ((((cb0_046y * cb0_061y) * _633) * _524) + _449)) * 5.55555534362793f)) * 0.18000000715255737f) * (1.0f / ((cb0_048y * cb0_063y) * _615)))))) + (_588 * (((cb0_050y + cb0_055y) + _463) + (((cb0_049y * cb0_054y) * _477) * exp2(log2(exp2(((cb0_047y * cb0_052y) * _505) * log2(max(0.0f, ((((cb0_046y * cb0_051y) * _519) * _524) + _449)) * 5.55555534362793f)) * 0.18000000715255737f) * (1.0f / ((cb0_048y * cb0_053y) * _491))))))) + ((((cb0_050y + cb0_060y) + _708) + (((cb0_049y * cb0_059y) * _717) * exp2(log2(exp2(((cb0_047y * cb0_057y) * _735) * log2(max(0.0f, ((((cb0_046y * cb0_056y) * _744) * _524) + _449)) * 5.55555534362793f)) * 0.18000000715255737f) * (1.0f / ((cb0_048y * cb0_058y) * _726))))) * _802);
  float _817 = ((_699 * (((cb0_050z + cb0_065z) + _597) + (((cb0_049z * cb0_064z) * _606) * exp2(log2(exp2(((cb0_047z * cb0_062z) * _624) * log2(max(0.0f, ((((cb0_046z * cb0_061z) * _633) * _525) + _449)) * 5.55555534362793f)) * 0.18000000715255737f) * (1.0f / ((cb0_048z * cb0_063z) * _615)))))) + (_588 * (((cb0_050z + cb0_055z) + _463) + (((cb0_049z * cb0_054z) * _477) * exp2(log2(exp2(((cb0_047z * cb0_052z) * _505) * log2(max(0.0f, ((((cb0_046z * cb0_051z) * _519) * _525) + _449)) * 5.55555534362793f)) * 0.18000000715255737f) * (1.0f / ((cb0_048z * cb0_053z) * _491))))))) + ((((cb0_050z + cb0_060z) + _708) + (((cb0_049z * cb0_059z) * _717) * exp2(log2(exp2(((cb0_047z * cb0_057z) * _735) * log2(max(0.0f, ((((cb0_046z * cb0_056z) * _744) * _525) + _449)) * 5.55555534362793f)) * 0.18000000715255737f) * (1.0f / ((cb0_048z * cb0_058z) * _726))))) * _802);

is the good ole untonemapped ap1 that is alwys above 0.0613 in SM6

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I'm going to have to remember to fix this on release

} else if (product_name == "Stellar Blade (Demo)") { -- I dont want to just assume the product name is going to be stellar blade or the .exe is going to stay the same

maiden sphinx May 30, 2025, 11:41 PM

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I can check in like 15 minutes when i get home

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:42 PM

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maiden sphinx I can check in like 15 minutes when i get home

finch seems good

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adrian tested it

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just test tekken

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its 85gb so yea lol

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:46 PM

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elfin lance

log2 of 1 is 0... so i think this is just linear + saturate...

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:46 PM

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really?

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is this really just saturate(color)

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with more steps?

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:47 PM

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elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:47 PM

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I mean the goal is to displaymap to 1

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:47 PM

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it's tonemapping to 0

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:47 PM

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but not just clip

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:47 PM

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and clip to peak (1)

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:47 PM

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thonk

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ok so

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saturate with extra steps?

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:47 PM

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i mean, i have to look at what rolloff does

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:47 PM

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I have to test

bold gulch May 30, 2025, 11:48 PM

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Log2 is equal to pq past a certain point

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It’s using log2 as a shaper

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Like pumbo’s dice but a little cheaper

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:48 PM

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yeah, but log2(1) = 0 and log2(2) = 1, so imagine exprolloff with those numbers

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max channel by itself is good for luts

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we did that in starfield... somewhere

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for tonemappass/upgradetonemap, we don't actually need it to be exactly 1.0

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just 1 ...ish

bold gulch May 30, 2025, 11:51 PM

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The min(100, peak) can be changed to change white clip

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:52 PM

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you should build these things in desmos and tweak it there first

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white clip depends on where it hits 1

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:52 PM

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in the context of my lerp, saturate() and tonemapmacll have 2 different colors

      float3 neutral_sdr_color = renodx::tonemap::renodrt::NeutralSDR(color);
      float color_y = renodx::color::y::from::BT709(color);
      // float3 color_okLCH = renodx::color::oklch::from::BT709(color);  //  lightness, chrominance, hue
      // float color_okL = color_okLCH.x;                                // lightness is just the x channel of lch
      // color = lerp(color, ToneMapMaxCLL(color), saturate(color_y));
      color = lerp(color, saturate(color), saturate(color_y));

maxcll param 2 vs. saturate param 2

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:53 PM

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i did smoothclamp in desmos and it's about 1.5 for white clip from eyeballing

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just eyeballing/ mouse cursor instead of trying to write the mathematical inverse

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:54 PM

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elfin lance in the context of my lerp, saturate() and tonemapmacll have 2 different colors ...

ToneMapMaxCLL is the best adrian and I got to vanilla hue

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:55 PM

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which is probably clip-like

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like where sdr clips matters

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clip at 1.5 and 2.0 and 3.0 and 4.0 have different hues

viscid mirage May 30, 2025, 11:56 PM

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elfin lance `ToneMapMaxCLL` is the best adrian and I got to vanilla hue

yea it seemed best in ai limit, but I tested fate and there it looked off compared to sdr

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seems like a per-game thing

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:57 PM

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the perchannelcorrection is kinda that saying "just do what SDR did"

elfin lance May 30, 2025, 11:57 PM

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either way after a bit of testing; it feels different from saturate()

spare bane May 30, 2025, 11:57 PM

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but it's not exactly built for luts

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i get away with it in tunic because vanilla was hard clip to lut-sample, so anything i do is automatically better

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:00 AM

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btw anything else you want me to mess with in Unreal Engine

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rn my long term todo list is:
-> figure out better composite shader stups (disable proxy shader + swapchain upgrade)
-> more defaults for games
-> discussions page

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:01 AM

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we gotta eventually start tacking output shaders

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for stuff like grain, vignette and CA

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:01 AM

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spare bane we gotta eventually start tacking output shaders

composite or output?

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oh output

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:01 AM

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output, like in oblivion

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:01 AM

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idk; is it really worth

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all that stuff can be turned off via

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:01 AM

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i kinda got that somewhat simplified

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:01 AM

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engine.ini

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more shaders replaced = stability

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:02 AM

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will be needed for realtime ue5

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:02 AM

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and if a game can have 1 lutbuilder; it can have 50 samples

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:02 AM

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spare bane will be needed for realtime ue5

maybe I'm the minority; but I dont think the UE5 sliders are a big deal

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just press start twice

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:02 AM

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in some games

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some games are on checkpoint/save

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thought alt+enter twice probably works too

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:05 AM

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spare bane some games are on checkpoint/save

yea depends on game

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either way if there can be a system where

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if there is an output shader, it works

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if there is no output shader, it works like a regular lutbuilder setup

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thats fine

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the biggest boost we can get in the UE mod is figuring out ini tweaks -- which I feel like might just be disabling

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proxy + swapchain upgrades

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and fixing the composite shaders, which arnt too hard

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that way we can get FG/MFG etc no problem

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problem is I think ini tweaks might not upgrade ALL resources, and some stuff might stay lets say bgr8

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:10 AM

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eventually i'll get to streamling/dlss stuff

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and intercept the dlss hooks

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i have an idea how to do it

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kinda like how i was talking about how dx9 would work for months, until i sat down and did it

cobalt marlin May 31, 2025, 12:12 AM

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pog

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:12 AM

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speaking of which @bold gulch when you doing GTA4

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 12:13 AM

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spare bane speaking of which <@251818887526612992> when you doing GTA4

I got bored playing gta v so I’ve never really gotten into gta

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So I guess 4 would be a good opportunity

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:13 AM

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it's dated though. you probably won't enjoy it

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even with the cousin going bowling memes

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 12:13 AM

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If the atmosphere and world is nice

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I can get into it

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La is boring

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:13 AM

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drab nyc

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:14 AM

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I might try metal gear rising

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 12:14 AM

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NYC is the best city in the world

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:14 AM

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and dragons ligma 1

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:14 AM

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i remember the music was good though

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 12:14 AM

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marat did you modify anything after the last build

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:14 AM

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bold gulch NYC is the best city in the world

cap

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:14 AM

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warped lynx marat did you modify anything after the last build

just the color of untonemapped

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:14 AM

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i mean, i'm born and raised in NYC, but still

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:14 AM

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so we dont conufse random builds anymore

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wait for the main repo to compile

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and use that

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 12:14 AM

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https://youtu.be/ktPg2IpaqCk?si=JCWMgoHC0vuBmQMf

YouTube

Goosie P

Stop touching the little ones 🗣🗣💯

▶ Play video

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I have to fly to Cleveland this weekend

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:15 AM

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whenever "add multiple games" is green, just download the unreal engine mods

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/actions

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 12:15 AM

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elfin lance and use that

ok

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 12:15 AM

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You guys haven’t seen a real shit hole

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:16 AM

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any city i go to is so clean compared to NYC

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also i laugh at "this is a city"

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:17 AM

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yea

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:17 AM

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only tokyo felt like a city to me. but hella clean

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:17 AM

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florida is like

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the people are nice

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etc

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no honking

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its like night and day

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either way

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I always wondered

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is there a perf hit for keeping dump lutbuilders on in dx12

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well "significant perf hit"

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:18 AM

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devkit level perf hit

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 12:18 AM

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elfin lance is there a perf hit for keeping dump lutbuilders on in dx12

I was encountering stutters

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:18 AM

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basically gotta snoop descriptor tables

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:18 AM

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spare bane devkit level perf hit

big oof

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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i can try to optimize and have, but, it's expensive

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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also when you mentioned resource upgrades and DLSS -- in my experiance

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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you only get addresses and have to cross reference what resource it's talking about

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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DLSS outputs all the relevant stuff at full res/output res

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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@spare bane just for the heck of it, native HDR's bot is also sad SDR AF 😛

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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its just very early on rendering stuff like lets say a tree that might be sub res

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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left narwhal <@115289688037785602> just for the heck of it, native HDR's bot is also sad SDR ...

that means the texture

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isnt bright

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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Yeah

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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and is a sad texture

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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I was curious, so I did native to check.

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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doesn't acutally emit light

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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Yeap

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:19 AM

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yea

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:20 AM

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so in dark area will be weak

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:20 AM

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reminds e of a few of my anime games

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:20 AM

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Also, that game doesn't have a peak nits cap and such apparently.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:20 AM

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where the lamps are fake

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:20 AM

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So, RenoDX UE fixes that.

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Claps

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:20 AM

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native hdr does look cooked

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reminds me of

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that one game

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I shared not too long ago

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slitterhead

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but aces is aces

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 12:20 AM

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Shitterhead

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:20 AM

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it's just aces and maybe they messed with it

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you can do Bypass SDR grading and get something similar with 80/80/80

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:21 AM

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what are the chances the entire game is just those 2 lutbuilders copeiumdrip

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:22 AM

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what other variations would there be though

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:22 AM

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well shitterhead was 6 lutbuilders

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in 1 mission

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I mean a lutbuilder fix is 1 minue for me so its not a big deal

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:23 AM

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left narwhal <@115289688037785602> just for the heck of it, native HDR's bot is also sad SDR ...

Like there's a sliiiiiiiiiiiiiight difference between native SDR/HDR when it comes to the bot's eye, which is just sad SDR bot no matter what we do.

But it's just ... same same.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:23 AM

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just curious + would be nice for the game to "just work" on launch

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:23 AM

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not lut either

unborn verge May 31, 2025, 12:23 AM

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spare bane you can do Bypass SDR grading and get something similar with 80/80/80

Tried, looks deep fired as heck
in stellar blade

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:23 AM

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Speaking of bot, that is.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:23 AM

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left narwhal Like there's a *sliiiiiiiiiiiiiight* difference between native SDR/HDR when it c...

grading looked like it went byebye

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reno maintains all sdr grading

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:23 AM

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Yeah

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:23 AM

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left narwhal Like there's a *sliiiiiiiiiiiiiight* difference between native SDR/HDR when it c...

that's not slight to me

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:23 AM

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yea rip green

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:23 AM

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spare bane that's not slight to me

For bot, not overall.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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ohh bot

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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Like I see a super slight difference that is barely there, rest of it, yeah, all cooked.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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try the highlights slider; the highlights slider is kindof like

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auto hdr

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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oh, yeah, i mean the brown instead of green

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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makes highlights brighter

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if you really want the bot to be less sad

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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Highlights sliders in Reno, yeah?

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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yes

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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Well, this is native HDR, without reno. So, I don't have it installed.

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Anyway, all done testing.

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Gonna use Reno now, at least it caps max nits.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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how much fps do you get

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on the 5090

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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And retains SDR grading.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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and what res

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:24 AM

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4K DLAA maxed out, litty titty with 4K textures.

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137 capped.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:25 AM

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left narwhal And retains SDR grading.

there is also a lot more shit you might be better off not knowing

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this is probably my autism but

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ever since I learned about rorange

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:25 AM

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Barely see it going below, at all.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:25 AM

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it sticks out like a sore thumb

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:25 AM

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I know, I just don't let it bother me as much.

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Knowledge is a curse.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:25 AM

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there are some scenes where you know it should be red

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but

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its dorito dust orange

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I was talking about a red correct function, similar to how aces made blue correct to fix blue -> purple

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but the tl;dr I came to with musa is

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:26 AM

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I can't enjoy movies like I used to as a kid.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:26 AM

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a lot of shit is made with rorange in mind

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so it would grief the image

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like make stuff go from red/rorange -> pink

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:26 AM

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you need to lerp luminance / hue-shift-ed, but how you lerp is what matters

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:27 AM

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lerp ab or ch?

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:27 AM

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i broke down all of it in PerChannelCorrection

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but you can just pick hue

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:27 AM

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yea

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:27 AM

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and scrap the rest

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:27 AM

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I read per channel correction

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really fun stuff

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and simple

unborn verge May 31, 2025, 12:27 AM

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elfin lance its dorito dust orange

If it's dorito dust orange in SDR than it should be dorito dust orange in HDR too
it's not like they graded in HDR, saw aces shift the colors and just rolled with it

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:27 AM

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unborn verge If it's dorito dust orange in SDR than it should be dorito dust orange in HDR to...

thing is dorito dust orange is a math issue

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if they could've made a bright red

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I'm sure they would've

maiden sphinx May 31, 2025, 12:28 AM

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elfin lance just test tekken

tekken works but highlights are clamped to ui brightness on some stages (not all)

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:28 AM

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but ap1/aces is unable to output bright red

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:28 AM

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maiden sphinx tekken works but highlights are clamped to ui brightness on some stages (not all...

upgrades?

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:28 AM

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i tried to keep PerChannelCorrection as understandable as i could but just gotta understand the concept of chroma as a float2

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:28 AM

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I assume you tested blowout in those clamped stages

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:28 AM

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chromas is the float2, and chrominance (a single float) is the length of those float2s

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:29 AM

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spare bane i tried to keep PerChannelCorrection as understandable as i could but just gotta...

yea in ictcp and oklab/okch

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x is usually their take on a brightness gradient

maiden sphinx May 31, 2025, 12:29 AM

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elfin lance upgrades?

yeah i tested blowout and all the upgrades

b8 typeless output size unclamps generally and the griefed stages just ui brightness changes; no luck w ratio and any size

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:29 AM

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and yz (float2) is the actual chroma/hue

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:30 AM

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elfin lance x is usually their take on a brightness gradient

we don't care about x (L), we just have to retain it so we can convert back later

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:30 AM

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right

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:30 AM

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Also, not that it matters but just in-case anyone asks.

This Reno UE working fine with SK as well.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:30 AM

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I saw that in saturation and perch correction

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only yz gets modified

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and then run 709::from::perceptual at the end to go back to linear

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:30 AM

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left narwhal Also, not that it matters but just in-case anyone asks. This Reno UE working fi...

but what about fps

ashen herald May 31, 2025, 12:31 AM

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I am running at a locked 110 + 2x FG maxed settings DLSS Q with 68-70% GPU util on a 5090 + SK + reno

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:31 AM

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float untonemapped_chrominance = length(untonemapped_perceptual.yz);  // eg: 0.80
  float tonemapped_chrominance = length(tonemapped_perceptual.yz);      // eg: 0.20

  // clamp saturation loss

  float chrominance_ratio = min(renodx::math::DivideSafe(tonemapped_chrominance, untonemapped_chrominance, 1.f), 1.f);

meaning if it was 0.80 in chrominance before we started and then 0.20 when we tonemapped, then we have 0.20/0.80 (25%) chrominance ratio (we lost 75%)

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:32 AM

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how does length work?

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:32 AM

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a^2 + b^2 = c^2

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:32 AM

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spare bane ```cpp float untonemapped_chrominance = length(untonemapped_perceptual.yz); // ...

@viscid mirage write this down

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:32 AM

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spare bane a^2 + b^2 = c^2

pythagrias really

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is it c2 ?

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:32 AM

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c

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:32 AM

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ohh just the c

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the hypotonus or w/e

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so untonemapped was 0.8 chroma; tonemapping caused us to loose chroma; so we're at 0.2 now

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so we gotta get a ratio to restore

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:34 AM

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  chrominance_ratio = max(chrominance_ratio, blowout_restoration);

  // Untonemapped hue, tonemapped chrominance (with limit)
  float2 reduced_untonemapped_chromas = untonemapped_chromas * chrominance_ratio;

so we can restore blownout chrominance by taking our untonemapped and dropping it down to the tonemapped level (eg: => 25% would be 0.80 to 0.20), or we can cap it and say, only reduce by 50%, so it's really 0.80 => 0.40

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blowout restoration 50 means you won't allow more than 50% of chrominance loss from per-channel nonsense

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:35 AM

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when you say drop it down, is that similar to my lerp

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where I lerp color, tonemap(color), y or l

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the goal is to bring down untonemapped

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:35 AM

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you're doing it in a way that favors y being stronger, attempting to say "this is where it loses chrominance"

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the way perchannelcorrect is doing it is: regardless of where, never less than 50%

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:36 AM

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spare bane you're doing it in a way that favors y being stronger, attempting to say "this i...

exactly!

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:36 AM

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spare bane ```cpp chrominance_ratio = max(chrominance_ratio, blowout_restoration); // ...

wow this is actually pretty damn straightforward

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just multiply the ratio back into untonemapped

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life good

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:37 AM

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but the hue would be wrong

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so the next is to pick a hue

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const float2 reduced_hue_shifted = lerp(
      tonemapped_chromas,
      reduced_untonemapped_chromas,
      saturate(tonemapped_luminance / 0.36));

mix original hue (chromas) and the chrominance we just fixed

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:38 AM

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yea I'm following along in draw.hlsl

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is 0.36 a magic number

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I remember musa used it in idr what function

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:38 AM

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basically 0% at 0, and 100% at 0.36, and 50% is midgray (0.18)

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:38 AM

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also why use y instead of l here?

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ah

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the way the oklab wiki reads, L is pretty solid

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i from ictcp shouldnt be any worse

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:39 AM

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i could probably do this in RGB and then fix hue at the end, but i'm not sure on the math

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quantifying saturation in RGB is HSV and messy

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hue is easily done with perceptual color spaces

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:40 AM

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  // Pick untonemapped hues for shadows/midtones
  const float2 hue_correct_chromas = untonemapped_chromas
                                     * renodx::math::DivideSafe(
                                         length(hue_shifted_chromas),
                                         length(untonemapped_chromas), 1.f);

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interesting a way to force untonemapped on shadows/midtones

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 12:40 AM

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Tried to use RDX UE with Fantasy life i and it just crashes on boot, is there anyway to fix it.

📎 ReShade.log

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:41 AM

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01:29:10:771 [21552] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::PipelineShaderDetails(Failed to replace pipeline)

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@fathom rapids when did you download the mod

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:41 AM

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fathom rapids Tried to use RDX UE with Fantasy life i and it just crashes on boot, is there an...

try without SK

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:41 AM

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we should have something that doesnt run into that issue anymore

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failed to replce pipeline is

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when you need the exception

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the thing I just got rid of

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:41 AM

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might be trying to upgrade SK

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:41 AM

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ah

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did the snapshot finish building?

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:42 AM

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DXGI_FORMAT_R8G8B8A8_UNORM UE is rgb10a2

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:42 AM

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spare bane `DXGI_FORMAT_R8G8B8A8_UNORM` UE is rgb10a2

thats fine; I had another game

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 12:42 AM

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downloaded the mod today

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:42 AM

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that was rgb8u -- and it worked just fine

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we had a fix earlier

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:42 AM

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01:29:09:160 [ 884] | INFO | [RenoDX] mods::swapchain::OnCreateSwapchain(swap: r8g8b8a8_unorm => r16g16b16a16_float, present mode:0x0 => 0x4, present flag:0x8205 => 0x8a05, buffers:2 => 2)

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it's doing scrgb on rgba8u

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:42 AM

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let me mod something real fast

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:43 AM

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never seen 0x8205 before

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:44 AM

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@fathom rapids use this please

📎 renodx-unrealengine.addon64

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thats just whats compiling rn on the github

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you're also going to need reshade 6.5

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 12:46 AM

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damn I literally just compiled it

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:47 AM

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@elfin lance

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 12:47 AM

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That worked thank you

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:47 AM

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vs up to 90 minutes+

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:47 AM

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elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:48 AM

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spare bane vs up to 90 minutes+

only 90

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you should see my repo

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wait its only 10m more

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 12:49 AM

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elfin lance <@278203243966758922> use this please

why is it so small

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:49 AM

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warped lynx why is it so small

clang

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if yours is 50mb

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that means you're using ninja

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 12:49 AM

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80 lol

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:49 AM

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or visual studio

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I guess I can see it being 80 now

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we got 1000 more shadows

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:51 AM

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left narwhal

https://tenor.com/view/the-weeknd-weekend-gif-5804385657210583522

Tenor

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:51 AM

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kekw

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Me, every 10mins in the game.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:52 AM

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left narwhal

@left narwhal can you do me a favor, and get a really nice vanilla vs. renodrt screenshot with highlights -- with lilium's tool -- please post both pics in 1 post

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:52 AM

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Looking for lighjts.

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The area I'm in is pretty grim, so max I go around is 500. I'd have to get in a brighter area, but yeah.

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 12:52 AM

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@elfin lance Any suggestions on why the game looks washed out

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:52 AM

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I think where the game starts is a nice for that.

finite basalt May 31, 2025, 12:52 AM

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is this good to go now

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:53 AM

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what good to go

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with what

finite basalt May 31, 2025, 12:53 AM

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mlg shared pics earlier over in sk that looked like shit

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:53 AM

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that was broken

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its good now

finite basalt May 31, 2025, 12:53 AM

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naturally

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:53 AM

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finite basalt is this good to go now

Yeah

Max nits are capped, colour grading same as SDR, and all good.

finite basalt May 31, 2025, 12:53 AM

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i mean naturally that he shared the broken ones

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:53 AM

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elfin lance <@278203243966758922> use this please

this is good

finite basalt May 31, 2025, 12:53 AM

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she was so pink

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:54 AM

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needs latest reshade -- get it from #🧩renodx-dev -- there was a reshade update

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 12:54 AM

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finite basalt i mean naturally that he shared the broken ones

in my defense the native hdr is crap

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:54 AM

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the native hdr is doodoo we know that

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 12:54 AM

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it gets rid of the blue-ish color grading

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:54 AM

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yea all sdr grading goes rip

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:54 AM

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Vanilla/RenoDRT

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Look how happy she is in RenoDRT world.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:55 AM

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the robot looks better there

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wonder if his light gets stronger in caves

finite basalt May 31, 2025, 12:55 AM

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do i need to set any overrides

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:56 AM

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finite basalt do i need to set any overrides

No, just peak in Reno addon.

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Everything else default.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:56 AM

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finite basalt do i need to set any overrides

no; just make sure the game is in sdr; and FG is off

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:56 AM

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TIL that don't even need BFF with RenoDX, it comes fixed OOTB.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:56 AM

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no need to upgrade anything

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all that is built in

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:56 AM

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elfin lance no; just make sure the game is in sdr; and FG is off

Oh, this doesn't work with FG? I see.

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Well, I'm not using FG so didn't know.

finite basalt May 31, 2025, 12:56 AM

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games optimized dont even need fg

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:56 AM

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Yeah

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Works with SK, Dark.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:56 AM

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left narwhal TIL that don't even need BFF with RenoDX, it comes fixed OOTB.

thats like the first thing that gets fixed

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:57 AM

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left narwhal Oh, this doesn't work with FG? I see.

it might work with 2x fg

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if you downgrade dlss-fg to

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2.8.1

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mfg is rip

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 12:57 AM

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left narwhal TIL that don't even need BFF with RenoDX, it comes fixed OOTB.

it defaults to 2.2

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 12:57 AM

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I'm using reshade 6.5, heres what the HDR analysis shows if that helps

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 12:57 AM

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fathom rapids I'm using reshade 6.5, heres what the HDR analysis shows if that helps

lmao wtf

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weird stuff

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might be a custom game

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esp since its not rgb10a2

spare bane May 31, 2025, 12:58 AM

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two swapchains reported

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also, it's running in scrgb...

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 12:59 AM

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@finite basalt using DualSense?

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Actually, gonna take it to #1378128119160115232

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 1:02 AM

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btw if ya'll get to a future area and the hdr somehow disables, remember to enable dump lutbuilders

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 1:04 AM

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left narwhal Vanilla/RenoDRT

Vanilla/RenoDRT

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Underwater is interesting here, @elfin lance

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202 capped.

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When I move, there's slight movement to nits, but it comes back down to 202.

spare bane May 31, 2025, 1:05 AM

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If you can get more brightness with contrast up then it's not capped

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Or like try saturation 100

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Almost always a missing lutbuilder

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 1:06 AM

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left narwhal Vanilla/RenoDRT

Game is just dimmer than UI here

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 1:06 AM

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Vanilla/RenoDRT

Then I come up, and it's like this.

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 1:07 AM

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spare bane If you can get more brightness with contrast up then it's not capped

Yeah, guess capped isn't the right word.

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 1:07 AM

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spare bane Or like try saturation 100

Yeah, that affects colours just fine, nits just stay at 202.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 1:11 AM

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@tight acorn btw its safe to make a video now

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the thing I wanted to commit is commited

unborn verge May 31, 2025, 1:12 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-safe-to-upgrade-gif-26481071

Tenor

ashen herald May 31, 2025, 1:12 AM

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elfin lance mfg is rip

Qué? Both transformer and MFG functions. I'm not seeing any highlight flickerin

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 1:12 AM

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ashen herald Qué? Both transformer and MFG functions. I'm not seeing any highlight flickerin

oh?

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even if you look at a highlight?!

ashen herald May 31, 2025, 1:12 AM

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I can send video

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 1:12 AM

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did nvidia do a goodvideo

ashen herald May 31, 2025, 1:12 AM

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I can increase highlights to 100

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And it doesn't flicker

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 1:13 AM

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and somehow fix FG/MFG

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let me try

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wonder if its a UE5 issue

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not

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reno

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 1:14 AM

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Vanilla/RenoDRT

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 1:14 AM

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wow I think it works

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 1:14 AM

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left narwhal Vanilla/RenoDRT

looks as expected

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 1:15 AM

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Much better now.

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||/s||

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 1:15 AM

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vanilla // reno with no hue// saturation correction // blowout restoration

ashen herald May 31, 2025, 1:16 AM

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elfin lance May 31, 2025, 1:16 AM

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this is default

ashen herald May 31, 2025, 1:17 AM

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ashen herald

why my eyelashes blocky though

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 1:17 AM

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yea its doing weird stuff

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and then starts flickering in certain spots

spare bane May 31, 2025, 1:18 AM

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Dlss auto exposure?

ashen herald May 31, 2025, 1:18 AM

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its set to off by default

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I set it to on via SK

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 1:19 AM

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lilium's histogram shows like

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1 frame hdr 1 frame clipped

finite basalt May 31, 2025, 1:19 AM

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well im using dlaa and its not crashing so thats nice

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:20 AM

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Vanilla/RenoDRT

umbral prairie May 31, 2025, 2:23 AM

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Looks a lot better. The light actually looks like it's bright now.

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:36 AM

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Yeah, it's good stuff.

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Bot actually has nice light in cutscenes, just not in gameplay. Sadge.

umbral prairie May 31, 2025, 2:40 AM

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So does this mean that Stellar Blade conig has now been "figured out"?

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:41 AM

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Accurately caps nits, colour grading is preserved in HDR to match SDR, and DLSS works.

I guess there’s some fucky wucky with FG but that’s about it?

umbral prairie May 31, 2025, 2:42 AM

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Is this live in the Unreal addon?

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:42 AM

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Not sure if it’s merged, yet.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 2:43 AM

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it is

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just get the latest unreal from github

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:43 AM

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Pog, nice.

umbral prairie May 31, 2025, 2:43 AM

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Only thing I need to tune is the max nits setting?

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:43 AM

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Correct

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And make sure game is in SDR

umbral prairie May 31, 2025, 2:44 AM

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Interesting. Is that normally how Reno works with games that have HDR? You have to run in SDR mode?

ashen herald May 31, 2025, 2:44 AM

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depends

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:44 AM

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UE one in my experience, yes.

ashen herald May 31, 2025, 2:45 AM

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UE HDR is utterly cursed

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so reno tends to upgrade SDR paths

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 2:48 AM

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umbral prairie Interesting. Is that normally how Reno works with games that have HDR? You have ...

Most of the time no but UE is an exception

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So is rise of ronin

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 2:56 AM

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the fmvs have artifacts

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 2:57 AM

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rip

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if you have a save with an fmv that plays

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maybe I can look into the fmv shader

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 3:33 AM

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elfin lance if you have a save with an fmv that plays

Just had a bunch in this cutscene play, too.

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I ALT+F4'd the game to grab you save file.

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Any idea where they located doe?

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Here, looks like this is it. Lives in My Documents.

📎 StellarBladeSaveDemo00.sav 📎 StellarBladeSettingDemo.sav

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nvm, looks like that was the final boss, lol

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Went back in the game to 'continue' and ... heh

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 3:56 AM

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left narwhal Just had a bunch in this cutscene play, too.

so its not just cutscenes

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does it happen with dlss not dlaa?

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 3:56 AM

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that's an fmv I'm pretty sure

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 3:57 AM

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elfin lance so its not just cutscenes

That's from a cutscene.

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When you beat the final boss, that cutscene plays and it's riddled with artifacts.

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If you can find a save file right before final boss, you can beat the boss and see it, I guess.

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 3:57 AM

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elfin lance does it happen with dlss not dlaa?

Not sure about DLSS, I'm using DLAA.

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But @warped lynx might be using DLSS.

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 3:57 AM

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I was using dlaa at the time

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 3:58 AM

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smh

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 3:58 AM

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I know DLAA has some artifacts

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in other games

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try dlss

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 3:58 AM

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all of the cutscenes after the final boss are fmvs

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 3:59 AM

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weird stuff happens with dlaa

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 3:59 AM

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elfin lance in other games

When using Reno UE?

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 3:59 AM

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if you can try dlss q

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yea

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99% render res dlss works just fine

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 3:59 AM

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Well, that FMV only plays when you finally finish the demo.

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After final boss.

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I don't have any save file anymore, once you beat it, no continue option

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Start from scratch.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 3:59 AM

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rip

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 4:00 AM

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yea

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 4:05 AM

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Shame if DLAA fucks up with Reno, though. 😦

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 4:08 AM

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left narwhal Shame if DLAA fucks up with Reno, though. 😦

you can do dlss 99%

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same thing really

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 4:08 AM

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elfin lance you can do dlss 99%

I was thinking that, yeah.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 4:08 AM

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yes

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 4:08 AM

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Via NV Inspector, right?

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Set game to SDR
Set your peak nits in addon

That's it.

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Everything else remains default.

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 4:13 AM

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make sure you're on the latest commit

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and reshade

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 4:14 AM

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Try the one pinned in #🧩renodx-dev

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dxgi.dll

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 4:28 AM

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try this build

📎 renodx-unrealengine.addon64

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it seems like the snapshot might not be updated yet

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its built

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but its taking its sweet time to update the download link I guess lol

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it'll probably be there tomorrow

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 4:31 AM

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it should be up rn

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for hours now

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 4:32 AM

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yea it seems like its built when you go on the commit, but it seems like it didn't update the dl

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oh

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didn't git pull

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🤷

echo delta May 31, 2025, 5:57 AM

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left narwhal Set game to SDR Set your peak nits in addon That's it.

How do I set my peak nits

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I can’t even get the add on to work at all nvm

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 6:03 AM

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just put dxgi and the addon in your game folder

distant shadow May 31, 2025, 6:35 AM

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left narwhal Vanilla/RenoDRT

Quite a difference in color. Isn't it?

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:36 AM

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elfin lance <@224536426316824576> btw its safe to make a video now

@spare bane we agree here ? It's cooked enough to be considered stable?

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:37 AM

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as a general ue mod sure

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stellar blade seems fine outside of fmvs

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and fg

austere pike May 31, 2025, 7:46 AM

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The game from what I remember from ps5 doesn't really have fmvs in the full version. I think there's one in the demo at the end as a "trailer" for the full game

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:52 AM

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yea the only fmv that was mentioned

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was something at the end of the demo boss

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if there are no fmvs in the full game, and its only a demo thing

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it might not even be worth looking into

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@left narwhal @warped lynx was the only FMV the one after the last demo boss?

Also where you guys able to play the entire demo with just those two lutbuilders? and was there like a lot of different zones?

austere pike May 31, 2025, 7:55 AM

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The game is very much focused on outfits and hairstyles etc so it does everything rendered in engine to show those

small socket May 31, 2025, 7:55 AM

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I don't remember if the the end credits were ingame or a FMV

austere pike May 31, 2025, 7:55 AM

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The very last cutscene credits in full game might be fmv

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:56 AM

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thats not the end of the world then

small socket May 31, 2025, 7:56 AM

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For some it might be

austere pike May 31, 2025, 7:58 AM

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Marat when you dump luts do they get saved in game folder under renodx? For future reference when game comes out

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Will probably play with dump luts enabled

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:59 AM

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yes, the game folder will have a /renodx/ folder; and inside of it will be files named lutbuilder_0x12345678.cso -- feel free to ping me them

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:59 AM

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austere pike Will probably play with dump luts enabled

dont

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dx12 + dump luts = rip fps

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only enable dump luts if you notice a area might be clipped to sdr

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and see if it outputs setting

austere pike May 31, 2025, 8:00 AM

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Alright I'll see when and if it happens

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Dump luts does not need game restart?

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:01 AM

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it does

austere pike May 31, 2025, 8:02 AM

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Alrighty good to know. Thank youu

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:02 AM

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np

austere pike May 31, 2025, 8:26 AM

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no artifacts in the fmv at the end of demo with dlss quality

small socket May 31, 2025, 8:27 AM

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That's good to know

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You can always set it to 99% then

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Still think 75% at 4K is good enough though

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 8:46 AM

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@elfin lance reno ue is working from ue 4.x version which one is it ?

viscid mirage May 31, 2025, 9:47 AM

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spare bane ```cpp float untonemapped_chrominance = length(untonemapped_perceptual.yz); // ...

you could do the same length for Oklabs yz/ab components right? would there be a difference to oklchs C, or is that exactly what they do to convert it into polar coords

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oh yea thats exactly it

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should've looked it up before asking

viscid mirage May 31, 2025, 10:23 AM

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tight acorn <@664732951724032001> reno ue is working from ue 4.x version which one is it ?

its supposed to support all of UE4, but we might be missing lutbuilders for the earlier versions since there are not that many games using them

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 11:10 AM

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alright thanks

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time to get to it then

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 1:01 PM

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elfin lance <@243632571202666497> <@450725351044284437> was the only FMV the one after the l...

The FMV that showed artifact was the only one that plays after finishing the demo, yes.

And only two zones, one where you start, second where you meet the boss after clearing it all.

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 1:03 PM

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distant shadow Quite a difference in color. Isn't it?

I'd say it's very slight, and A LOT better than what native HDR does. This at least keeps it very close to SDR.

viscid mirage May 31, 2025, 1:05 PM

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viscid mirage May 31, 2025, 1:05 PM

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left narwhal I'd say it's very slight, and A LOT better than what native HDR does. This at le...

Musa found out that the default blowout restoration slightly desaturates things, so maybe try sat 60

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left narwhal May 31, 2025, 1:06 PM

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viscid mirage Musa found out that the default blowout restoration slightly desaturates things,...

I realized that as well yesterday

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I was playing with sat

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60 is too much, it was turniung her right side of the face pink, if you're using menu as your benchmark for it.

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SDR has only left side pink-ish, right side white-ish.

60 was too much

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55 was a bit better, though

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There's definitely room to improve that with sat, I was gonna play more but meant to ask if that's the slider ideal for this

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Or many some other one.

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I guess if it's already looked into and sat is the one, I'll play more.

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I found 55-57 to be better, really have to double check. But 60 was definitely a bit too much if you wanted to be close to vanilla.

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Mind you, none of those inherently look BAD bad.

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We're really in nit picking territory there, of course.

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And can chalk it down to personal preference even.

viscid mirage May 31, 2025, 1:09 PM

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yea. I guess you could try counteracting the saturation by increasing blowout

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that should help with faces I think

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 1:09 PM

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Good suggestion.

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But that'll also affect the scenes in the world, I guess.

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Definitely something you can play a bit to find a good medium for sure.

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But tbh, it really is in final phase of nit picking territory, too. So, it's not all that bad whatever you end up with, IMO.

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Vanilla/RenoDRT

All defaults.

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Sat at 55, and 60 in RenoDRT.

viscid mirage May 31, 2025, 1:18 PM

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yea I see what you mean, 55 looks better

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 1:22 PM

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Yeap, I don't think any of those look inherently bad either, but 55 does look like the best medium to me.

And of course, the game is peak purely cause of this alone. snig

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 1:33 PM

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There’s also per channel correction

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If you increase blowout restoration you could try messing with highlight saturation or blowout to counteract the effects

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There might be some really nice combination

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:10 PM

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bold gulch There might be some really nice combination

Yeah, that's what my thought process was as well. Can tinker around a bit more to get even closer to vanilla image.

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 2:10 PM

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Ya sometimes I fuck around and tweak for a while

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 2:11 PM

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left narwhal Yeap, I don't think any of those look inherently bad either, but 55 does look li...

This is making me wanna play

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:11 PM

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Sat at 55 already does a great job, IMO. But it kinda makes everything more saturated, not just left/right side of things.

And then there's like outfits as well, and they have lights on them, so highlight saturation needs to factor that in, too.

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:11 PM

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bold gulch This is making me wanna play

Game has like Godly amount of outfits of all kinds from what I hear.

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So, something for everyone.

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snig

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 2:11 PM

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I liked dressing up my character in red dead 2

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:11 PM

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ayyyyyyyy

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 2:11 PM

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But that was more about mixing and matching stuff

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I assume outfits here aren’t in pieces?

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Are there hair style options

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:12 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/id/UmerF/screenshots/?appid=1174180&sort=newestfirst&browsefilter=myfiles&view=imagewall

Steam Community :: Pakman 🦄 :: Screenshots

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1942806873

Steam Community :: Screenshot :: Call the Queen, IDGAF.

Steam Community: Red Dead Redemption 2. Call the Queen, IDGAF.

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I share my outfit SO many times in this game, lmao.

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All in RDO, too.

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:13 PM

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bold gulch I assume outfits here aren’t in pieces?

Correct

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You can mix/match stuff like glasses and all.

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And some other minor tweaks, but not like we can in Red Dead.

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Putting different coats, vests, etc. It's far more in-depth in RDR2.

echo delta May 31, 2025, 2:24 PM

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elfin lance just put dxgi and the addon in your game folder

What is the peak brightness when doing this?

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:25 PM

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You set your own peak brightness.

echo delta May 31, 2025, 2:25 PM

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oh in game?

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:25 PM

#

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In the addon, look at the highlighted bit.

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I have 800 set, cause I'm trying it on C4.

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You set yours to what you want.

echo delta May 31, 2025, 2:26 PM

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that explains why I'm confused, doesn't look like the mod applied correctly

echo delta May 31, 2025, 2:28 PM

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left narwhal I have 800 set, cause I'm trying it on C4.

doesnt it hit ~950-1k?

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:28 PM

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Not 48"

echo delta May 31, 2025, 2:29 PM

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ohhh right

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which folder is the mod supposed to be in

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I cant get it to show up

small socket May 31, 2025, 2:32 PM

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The one that has shipping in the name of the game exe

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Don't remember what it was called exactly and I'm not at my pc right now to check myself

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:33 PM

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echo delta which folder is the mod supposed to be in

Z:\Games\Steam Library\steamapps\common\StellarBladeDemo\SB\Binaries\Win64

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This for me.

echo delta May 31, 2025, 2:33 PM

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Weird, it's still not showing up. But thanks ill figure it out

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:34 PM

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echo delta May 31, 2025, 2:43 PM

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reinstall fixed it, thanks

earnest bolt May 31, 2025, 2:44 PM

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left narwhal

ideally not dev build 😉

left narwhal May 31, 2025, 2:46 PM

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Oh, that's the same one that get merged.

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To main branch, that is.

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So, same same.

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 4:03 PM

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elfin lance <@243632571202666497> <@450725351044284437> was the only FMV the one after the l...

ye to both

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 4:03 PM

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small socket I don't remember if the the end credits were ingame or a FMV

the frame rate was lower and there were a lot of scene cuts

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 4:04 PM

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left narwhal Oh, that's the same one that get merged.

I think marat might have added one last thing that isn't in that dev build

spare bane May 31, 2025, 4:07 PM

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distant shadow Quite a difference in color. Isn't it?

hue/saturation correction removes some red and blue smear that UE's per channel tonemapper does. ends up being more accurate to texture and dark skin tones, but could also break the intended look. in some instances it's like adding AO to an image because the shadowed areas have a lot of red/blue saturation errors that end up breaking gradients in shadows

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you should be getting BT2020 colors though in UE, on the graph, and more noticeably on the graph with Gamma Correction Off

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 5:27 PM

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@spare bane is it possible to fix the fantasy life issue or should I just leave the game for now.

spare bane May 31, 2025, 5:28 PM

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can you send a log without SK?

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also, reset your RenoDX settings. it was set to scRGB when i checked

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 5:36 PM

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📎 ReShade.log

spare bane May 31, 2025, 5:41 PM

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do you get a crash window? sometimes it puts stuff in your clipboard that you can paste

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 5:43 PM

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It doen't crash it just looks washed out

spare bane May 31, 2025, 5:48 PM

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do you have native hdr disabled?

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 6:44 PM

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no

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I disabled the ingame HDR

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:07 PM

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fathom rapids I disabled the ingame HDR

does the saturation slider work? might be missing a lut builder

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:08 PM

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spare bane does the saturation slider work? might be missing a lut builder

my favorite is the blowout slider

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I tell people to set blowout to 100

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if it does nothing, that means there is no lut

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also that game is new and ue5 iirc

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:08 PM

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saturation to 0 = blowout 100 as wel

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:08 PM

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but it has a lut since his log showed failed to replace on startup

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probably just needs upgrades

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but maybe uavs like gooner blade and expedition33

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:09 PM

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elfin lance but it has a lut since his log showed failed to replace on startup

no errors without SK and trying scrgb

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:09 PM

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spare bane no errors without SK and trying scrgb

oh?

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:09 PM

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fresh log ^

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:09 PM

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well I gave him the new build with < 20

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before that he was on the old build

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with the whitelist

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:09 PM

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no two swapchains either

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:15 PM

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also I'm probably going to integrate berserker khazan into this

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just like 2 game shaders

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also SMT5 whenever I get around to actually handling the color grading shaders correctly

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:16 PM

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fathom rapids

no resource upgrades despairge

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 7:20 PM

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It was washed out when I had native hdr enabled so I disabled it and it doesn't look washed out anymore.

Blowout and saturation sliders don't change anything

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:21 PM

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fathom rapids It was washed out when I had native hdr enabled so I disabled it and it doesn't ...

if the game is UE5, try doing a scene chane

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do me a favor

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set blowout to 100

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and restart the game

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and tell me what happens

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 7:24 PM

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It turns black and white except the ui

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:24 PM

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good

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that means the lutbuilders are there

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and you're clamped by resource upgrades

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you can set blowout back to 50/default

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try setting B8G8R8A8_TYLESS to "output size" and R10G10B10A2_UNORM to "outout size"

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like this

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and restart the game

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 7:32 PM

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I think that's ok

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Isn't that white line supposed to be at 0.00

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:35 PM

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there's almost nothing pure black in 3d renders

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since 3d rendering is all light based rendering

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unless you're rendering a black hole

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:39 PM

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you can play around with a bit of flare

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contrast

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but a cartoon game like that might not have a natural 0 nit black floor

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outside of UI

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:41 PM

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@elfin lance

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do you know why

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:41 PM

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?

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:41 PM

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on stellar blade

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the reno ue only peaks at 2500 nits instead of 3k

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:41 PM

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math

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:41 PM

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okay

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:41 PM

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the game could use white clip

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so you can always get your 3k

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:42 PM

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well, not "always"

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:42 PM

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i'd rather have it below than above

fallow mica May 31, 2025, 7:42 PM

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what peak you get with max exposure

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:42 PM

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soyjakGrin

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:42 PM

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fallow mica what peak you get with max exposure

you mean game brightness ?

fallow mica May 31, 2025, 7:43 PM

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no exposure

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under color grading

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:43 PM

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renodrt tonemaps down from 10k by default

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so for something to be peak nits

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it has to be 10k nits in untonemapped

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even though UE is arri, and needs white clip 65 by default

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but thats another issue

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 7:44 PM

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what about the 30k nit stuff

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:44 PM

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also gamma correction will slightly modify your peak; but by like 30-50 nits

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:44 PM

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warped lynx what about the 30k nit stuff

everything above 10k nits is ignored and thrown away

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has no info

fallow mica May 31, 2025, 7:45 PM

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clipped to 10k ?

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 7:46 PM

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I do wonder how often do games actually push beyond 10k

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in linear space with no paper white scaling

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:46 PM

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fallow mica clipped to 10k ?

everything above 10k is clipped in reno; because math wise there is literally nothing to salvage

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white clip lets you clip earlier; so lets say clip to 2k nits

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and tonemap down from 2k vs. 10k

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because lots of games dont get that bright in their untonemapped

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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warped lynx I do wonder how often do games actually push beyond 10k

easy; infinite

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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lol

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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if the game stutters with reshade what could it be

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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I forgot that's a thing

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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tight acorn if the game stutters with reshade what could it be

fx

fallow mica May 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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tight acorn if the game stutters with reshade what could it be

you mean serious stutter

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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I have an issue with UE5 games

fallow mica May 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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or just small hitches

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:47 PM

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I have to have the fx point to a empty folder

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there is also shader precompilation

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if the game pre-compiled shaders before reno, you need to re-compile with reno

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and ofc always use #🧩renodx-dev reshade installs

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:48 PM

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the depth buffer does stuff, less if there are no active fx shaders

fallow mica May 31, 2025, 7:48 PM

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warped lynx I do wonder how often do games actually push beyond 10k

dead space 2 100k save menu

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should be amazing when we get 100k displays

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 7:48 PM

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is that in linear space

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:49 PM

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in TEW2, the bloom just does some infinite maths

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so you get 99k

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 7:49 PM

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rip

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:49 PM

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but there is no visual difference between 10k and 99k white

fallow mica May 31, 2025, 7:49 PM

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warped lynx is that in linear space

dxvk with all upgrades

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:49 PM

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so there is no reason to even consider anything above 10k

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there will be people that tell you there is no gain above even 1k

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 7:49 PM

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fallow mica dxvk with all upgrades

rip

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:49 PM

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in terms of chromanince

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I cant comment on that since all my displays have been peak 1k

fallow mica May 31, 2025, 7:50 PM

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serious sam fusion, 20k small highlights

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:50 PM

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so I really dont know if there is a diferent in highlight color between 1k and 2k

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:50 PM

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sometimes about feel

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 7:50 PM

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elfin lance so there is no reason to even consider anything above 10k

maybe if you really wanted to emulate real life

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:50 PM

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your eyes feeling 1500 nits

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:50 PM

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spare bane your eyes feeling 1500 nits

right but 1500 nit white

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vs. 1000 nit white

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the colors are probably all gone

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or very bright bright yellowish white

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:50 PM

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yeah

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:51 PM

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you'll feel the luminance, but the colors are rip

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:51 PM

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elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:51 PM

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yea I saw that earlier

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:51 PM

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you feel the brightness in the clouds

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:51 PM

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yea

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:52 PM

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spare bane you feel the brightness in the clouds

nice

spare bane May 31, 2025, 7:52 PM

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that's the real high dynamic range in HDR

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:52 PM

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pun

fathom rapids May 31, 2025, 7:52 PM

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Thanks for the help btw

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:52 PM

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fathom rapids Thanks for the help btw

np, let me know if the game is good

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I seen it and it looks like a cute life game

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:52 PM

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okay guyz i'm just finishing subs for the renodx unreal video

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blerg

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:52 PM

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bro just speak engrish

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 7:52 PM

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Now finish dub

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:52 PM

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no

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:53 PM

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if you want to be a real g

bold gulch May 31, 2025, 7:53 PM

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Marat will dub

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:53 PM

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the real G is called JDSP

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he is the english boiiiiiiiiiiiiiii that needs to get it done

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:53 PM

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"whats good homies, today we finna make unreal engine hdr"

warped lynx May 31, 2025, 7:53 PM

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dub > sub

tight acorn May 31, 2025, 7:53 PM

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@left wolf they are asking for your englishism

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ya bog loo lad bruv

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get to work homie

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 7:56 PM

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but yea I wanted the pipeline rework commit to be part of unreal engine before any videos

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because without it, pretty much every UE5 game would need to be added manually

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or else it would crash or not replace shaders

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now games should work assuming the lutbuilders are there

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and like adrian says; all versions of UE4 work -- its just a matter of if there is a lutbuilder or not

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I fixed a very early UE 4 game a few weeks ago; works just fine

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@spare bane what do you think about a "referance look/sdr look" (retarded temp name) button that disables all the new per ch stuff

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because in a few games it goes too far from the sdr look

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spongebob, gooner blade, etc

tired mulch May 31, 2025, 8:15 PM

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GOONER BLADE!?!?

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oh

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stellar blade

spare bane May 31, 2025, 8:16 PM

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elfin lance <@115289688037785602> what do you think about a "referance look/sdr look" (retar...

yeah, though i'd still like to fix the horrible red/blue smear by default

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clair33 really looks better for it

tired mulch May 31, 2025, 8:16 PM

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are all the new builds requiring

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:16 PM

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yea clair looks better with per ch stuff

tired mulch May 31, 2025, 8:16 PM

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the new reshade

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:16 PM

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yes

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6.5

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ideally 6.5 no shit

spare bane May 31, 2025, 8:17 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-FfyTV9HjA very obvious here

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tired mulch May 31, 2025, 8:17 PM

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do we have a custom build on here

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or its just stock build

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:17 PM

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but stellar blade is griefed a bit imo

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gametsism is getting better

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at videos

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he used to look at game nits scenes

spare bane May 31, 2025, 8:18 PM

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if you check the video, and when it transitions away/to renodx the blue smear is really obvious

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:18 PM

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spare bane if you check the video, and when it transitions away/to renodx the blue smear is...

yea

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I watched this long ago

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the per channel stuff makes clair exponentially better

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but spongebob gets the suds

tired mulch May 31, 2025, 8:22 PM

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elfin lance the per channel stuff makes clair exponentially better

Per channel stuff is on new ue builds?

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:23 PM

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for like

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3 months now

spare bane May 31, 2025, 8:24 PM

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tired mulch Per channel stuff is on new ue builds?

it's the hue correction, saturation correction, blowout restoration

tired mulch May 31, 2025, 8:25 PM

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spare bane it's the hue correction, saturation correction, blowout restoration

Oh those then

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lol thought i had to update my settings again

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It really made WW better cuz the stock sdr lut kinda washes everything out

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:26 PM

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yea

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thats the goal

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fix washout

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restore saturation/color

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but here is spongebob for example

spare bane May 31, 2025, 8:29 PM

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i'm realizing that vanilla is also clipped bt709

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that's also a thing

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:29 PM

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yea

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but thats normal

spare bane May 31, 2025, 8:29 PM

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since ue hard clips their ap1

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:29 PM

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yea

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not in all games though

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adrian sent me this

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https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/blob/main/src/games/unrealengine/lutbuilders/sm5/lutbuilder_0x3904DD94.ps_5_x.hlsl#L365

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apparently some games needed a manual max 0

spare bane May 31, 2025, 8:32 PM

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yeah i fixed some

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like crisis core

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i think it's UE4 bug

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where it relies on the lut being uint and clamping

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:33 PM

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vanilla -- reno default -- reno sat correction 0

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@bold gulch can we get that as a sticker

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 8:36 PM

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spare bane where it relies on the lut being uint and clamping

yea we upgrade our luts

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he's square, he's pants

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oh shit

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there is a whole bikini bottem discord

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I've had a lot of fun making HDR mods, I'm leaving you guys for my new home

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we will now live in bikinit bottom

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btw back on unreal memes, I bought some shit game

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apparently its UE5

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idr what its called anyway

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Hell Is Us - Deluxe Edition

spare bane May 31, 2025, 9:04 PM

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oh yeah...

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i can setup resource upgrades to not require a restart

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 9:05 PM

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I assume they just need

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a swapchain change

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alt enter or

spare bane May 31, 2025, 9:05 PM

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nah, it's like hotswap

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 9:05 PM

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oh?

spare bane May 31, 2025, 9:05 PM

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nah

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dx12

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dx12 at it again

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 9:05 PM

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lets go

spare bane May 31, 2025, 9:05 PM

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dx11 doesn't require a restart, but dx12 would

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damn descriptor tables

elfin lance May 31, 2025, 9:05 PM

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dx12 is a blessing and a curse

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like on paper

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its is the better API if you take full advantage of it

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in practice game devs/engines fuck it up

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and get worse perf than 11

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and since its not as forgiving, that fuck up cuases stability

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because 11 is old enough for the driver to just "fix shit" on the fly

fathom rapids Jun 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

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Sorry to be a pain, any suggestions on how to fix the washed out look for the character.

elfin lance Jun 1, 2025, 12:02 AM

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might be a missing lutbuilder; set blowout to 100 again

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and open/close that menu

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and see what happens

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if blowout 100 doesnt do anything; enable dump lutbuilders

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restart the game

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and see if a /renodx/ folder spawned in your game's folder with a lutbuilder_ file inside of it

fathom rapids Jun 1, 2025, 12:06 AM

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blowout 100 makes the character black and white, should I still dump lutbuilders.

elfin lance Jun 1, 2025, 12:08 AM

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no

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the game is clipped to 203 nits

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so something isnt upgrading

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wait no thats just UI elements

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the character isnt clipping

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