we must fight against NIGHTSHADE

[vocal canopy]

NIghtshade is a tool intended for artist to submit their artwork and poison the images in order to prevent us AI consumers from training our AIs and generate whatever we want.

I ask for the engineers to create pieces of software intended to DEPOISON models so we can train our AIs without interference

[zenith rover]

Vote for this suggestion!

[halcyon prairie]

🗣️

[pallid rune]

but ahem
https://github.com/RichardAragon/NightshadeAntidote

[fallow wren]

Orrrrr

We can join nightshade

[pallid rune]

why fight against the dark force when you can join it

[pallid rune]

ok but a simple gaussian blur removes the poison so LMFAO

its not anything complicated

[dark shoal]

have the entire artist community against you any% speedrun

[pallid rune]

cope

[vocal canopy]

It's good an antidote exist, but people gotta keep updating it to keep up

[pallid rune]

blud
its not complicated

a simple gaussian blur

and done

its over hyped

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_blur

a simple
guassian
blur
and then
fix
no fucking months of development and shit needed

[vocal canopy]

what if the nightshade devs come up with a different poison?

[dusty python]

Screw them, they are just Adversarial Attacks at best

[fallow wren]

Are you nightshade because you're lifeless or are you lifeless because you're nightshade

[pallid rune]

don't you "what if" me
when they do it others will figure a fix for it
but well they still haven't
so just do gaussian blur instead of complaining about hypothetical situations

[frosty jasper]

What is it even supposed to do

[vocal canopy]

Like I said, people submit their artwork, POISON the data so that when we were to obliviously train Stable Diffusion and make a LoRa or Checkpoint, the output images will be highly corrupted

[frosty jasper]

RVC gonna be fine then

Submit their artwork to what?

[vocal canopy]

RVC is fine for now

[worldly ibex]

Ayo? @vocal canopy level 5 !!!

[vocal canopy]

Bro, what you mean by what?
It’s already mentioned.
People submit their artwork to nightshade

[frosty jasper]

Yeah but how does it poison ai photos

[vocal canopy]

Gaussian blur as one of the dudes mentioned

[frosty jasper]

Yeah but HOW

[vocal canopy]

It causes a type of “distortion” to the image which is invisible to the human eye

[frosty jasper]

So like a filter

[vocal canopy]

Yes

[frosty jasper]

So when ai gets trained off it doesn’t recognize and distorts it?

[vocal canopy]

Yep. It has trouble analyzing the image and when you generate something out of it, you’ll get a corrupted image

[frosty jasper]

Then just don’t train any LORAs or models off the filtered images

Easy

[kindred ivy]

uhhh i don't think(?) this is a good idea

[pallid rune]

its just adversial attacks ffs

and you cant really see those pixels normally

https://d3i71xaburhd42.cloudfront.net/1a0829a7bef8ea3ecb33b55871b4498dd328ff68/1-Figure1-1.png

[pallid rune]

bro guassian blur is the fix to removing the "poison" aka the adversial noise
the way they add the poison is prob some simple mask layering or smth idfk
but gassian blur will fix the poison

did you even check what guassian blur is

[pallid rune]

its all fucking Adversial noise
read a fucking article on what adversial noise is
this noise, attacks the model
which is an adversial attack
https://www.analyticsvidhya.com/blog/2022/09/machine-learning-adversarial-attacks-and-defense/

idfk i didnt read this article
but just a simple google search

but just google it and read what adverisal noise fucking is

but basically

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ali-Mirzaeian/publication/338687780/figure/fig1/AS:849220504395779@1579481354410/The-FGSM-attack-is-used-to-add-adversarial-noise-to-the-original-image-The-adversarial.png

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-FGSM-attack-is-used-to-add-adversarial-noise-to-the-original-image-The-adversarial_fig1_338687780

[fallow wren]

You don't fight against nightshade

You join nightshade

You become nightshade

You surpass nightshade

[dark shoal]

ok but

this suggestion isn’t something we can implement anyway, is it?

[pallid rune]

yep
so close it

[dark shoal]

[pallid rune]

idk i couldnt find shit on it
just that it prob adds some FGSM noise or some fucking bs thing
and then yea :3
but a gaussian blur fixes it

[stray jackal]

special trained AI to fool other AIs

[pallid rune]

fym

its just adversial noise ffs

its not "special"

[stray jackal]

The model itself has to be specially trained to fool stable diffusion.

therefor also only works on that model

[pallid rune]

fym

its just adversial noise

its not specific to SD

adversial noise just messes with AI in general

and thats called an adversial attack

and well
As seen here
you need to train a FGSM model
idfk if its only FGSM but still
to add adversial noise
yes you need a model for it but still
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-FGSM-attack-is-used-to-add-adversarial-noise-to-the-original-image-The-adversarial_fig1_338687780

[stray jackal]

Someone will probably make a glaze restorer

aka, remove glaze noise

[pallid rune]

blud

did you even read the thread

[pallid rune]

literally

the fucking fix

the glaze thing
is stupid as fuck
it can be easily fixed

its not anything revolutionary

its just overhyped lmfao

[stray jackal]

this is some chatgpt level code lolol

[pallid rune]

what

[stray jackal]

it only detects basic changes to the image

[pallid rune]

cope
it works

[stray jackal]

it doesnt even solve them

[pallid rune]

the solve is easy as fuck

a simple fucking gaussian blur

stop yapping 🔫

and no it does fix it

[stray jackal]

then use it

show me

[pallid rune]

i couldnt care less about your opinion on this lmfao

it does work

[stray jackal]

Show me it working

[pallid rune]

if you dont believe me
cope or just install it yourself

you can install nightshade yourself

https://nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/downloads.html

[stray jackal]

You have not looked into the repo yourself and are just blindly trusting it, even though it doesn't work

[pallid rune]

go install it and tell me

[pallid rune]

i have

and felt has

[stray jackal]

Nightshade works

The nightshade antidote doesnt

[pallid rune]

nightshade is shit its over hyped

[pallid rune]

it does

ok wait i just realized idc about your opinion
alr well this convo is done :3

[stray jackal]

When toxicity
anyway, tell me when you've got images passed through that anti-nightshade thing. Would love to see the results
And then, try training a lora.

[jovial tundra]

Actually based suggestion :gigachad:

[jovial tundra]

that looks like jpeg compression by swapping positions of some squares

[worldly ibex]

Ayo? @jovial tundra level 5 !!!

[pallid rune]

looks like

but it is adversial noise

[frosty jasper]

Lusbert back

[rugged hedge]

bro is yapping