I suggest taking down the roblox game...

[sonic kraken]

https://www.roblox.com/games/16154918775/BUCKSHOT-4-Player

These guys are making the money you could be making on roblox, so I would suggest getting the game taken down and making your own on there

[bold wigeon]

if ya are on roblox you probably already know how hard it is for devs to make any kind of money basically and imho that shit is god awful

[hearty girder]

According to Statistia >40% of Roblox users are UNDER 13 and thus by Steam EULA they cannot REGISTER an account and BUY Buckshot Roulette on Steam. That part of demographic do not have the purchasing power to buy it on itch.io either, so why bother going after the dead revenue stream that was never alive?

[tough silo]

and this game in question is blatant copyright infringement

[bold wigeon]

that game is targeted (not sure if they enforce the age ratings yet/at all) towards 13+ demographic

[tough silo]

and according to recent changes, 13+ demographic games on the platform are inaccessible to people under that specified age

[glossy minnow]

Im sure Roblox is limited and not that interesting. Let the kids play it.

[bold wigeon]

is buckshot roulette even copyrighted? well even if it is it should really be more upfront about its inspiration like buckshot mayhem and not only mention the name of it on the literal last line of its description

[bold wigeon]

limited? ehh i'd say it's only limited in a way that you can't write your own shaders or use escape key as a dev. roblox seems just as capable as any other engine, like you can even make your own vr games on it

[celest stratus]

idk it isnt very popular it has like 550 players so like they arent making a living from it for sure also i bought buckshot roulete beacuse i saw it on roblox for the first time and to be honest it isnt even bad its a pretty similar and pretty good game for roblox i think no kids play this beacuse they just cant eveybody who plays and likes the game is atleast 14 most of the time 16+ and they have 3 dollars to spend on a game so this roblox game does more good than bad i think.

[rigid parcel]

it should be removed

[celest stratus]

nah

[rigid parcel]

uh huh

[celest stratus]

why

[bold wigeon]

now that mp is out there's no reason to play roblox clones

[upbeat grove]

You think people abide by age restrictions?

[hearty girder]

You think Mike put up the DRM-free version on itch.io without a reason?

[upbeat grove]

I genuinely have no clue what that even means. Quick google search explains very little. 99% of kids lie about their age. That was my only point.

[hearty girder]

DRM-free means no piracy protection aka I can copy the game files and give it to somebody else to play without problem

Lying about age doesnt matter. What matters here is that you are targetting at a demographic that can't immediately afford the real deal and would just not pay when you pressure them to pay up or get lost. You yield only loss from DMCA'ing the clones compared to doing nothing.

Besides, piracy converts potential customer. Adobe could have easily patched out GenP/amtlib.dll (iykyk) but then nobody learns how to photoshop and then companies wouldn't buy adobe licenses anymore. Same for buckshot. If the developer had the intent to protect game sales at all cost he would not have chose itch.io as his first release platform as itch.io doesn't have any kind of DRM that protects piracy. You should now understand my quote reply.

Still don't believe me? I used to play on a website clone that hosts the steam version until multiplayer came out and I realize I am not broke enough to the extent that the 3USD would make me miss my groceries. If they need that THREE DOLLAR for a living JUST LET THEM BE instead of being petty and call out them that they are poor.

(redacting links to not get banned oop)

[upbeat grove]

I just think it's an ultimately silly debacle that deserves zero attention. Arrowhead could take down the Helldivers 2 clone on Roblox "Darkdivers" if they wanted to. They're backed by Sony so it wouldn't be hard. And the game even has microtransactions. They are actively making money off of someone else's IP. Have they done anything? Nope cuz its not worth their time. They will make infinitely more than a Roblox clone that a very small demographic of children or desperate young adults play.

Regardless I just thought the argument that kids play the Roblox version because of age restrictions on Steam was silly. That was my only intention with that reply, not to start a Reddit comments thread. Hell, I deleted Reddit to get away from these kinds of arguments cuz they're pointless and just make me unnecessarily angry as we try to one-up each other, and yet they followed me to Discord lmao.

[hearty girder]

Nope cuz its not worth their time.
u just repeated my first point and I think kids up there are just very bad at playing 1v1 💀

another reason why you should not take down the clones: you can copytight expressions of idea but not idea itself (pov: palworld getting sued by nintendo)

[upbeat grove]

Like I said, I never had stakes in this debacle to begin with. I literally just thought the age argument was silly. You expanded it into a paragraph, making it clear you wanted to discuss so I discussed it.

[frozen fulcrum]

people playing the roblox clone will likely want to buy the real game eventually which means more potential profit

[bold wigeon]

steam one is also DRM-free, without steam only multiplayer doesn't work

[bronze grove]

Not really because most people that play the roblox ripoffs dont have money at all so they'll most likely result in cracking/pirating the original game

[frozen fulcrum]

that chain can keep going, if people pirated a game and then really liked it they might eventually buy it, especially after multiplayer (which is steam only) released

[young thistle]

Hope it get's taken down.

[bronze grove]

Usually when people pirate games they wont actually buy the original copy due to money issues. Like 70% of game piraters do that because in OTHER COUNTRIES the game is expensive asf