Burner phone is just wrong most of the time

[thorny folio]

More often than not, the burner phone will either display a round that's already been fired, or just tells you the opposite of what the future round is.

[quartz apex]

did someone use the inverter?

[brave carbon]

that's right

i dunno if, its a translation problem or a game problem

i tried into PT-PT and PT-BR
the phone was giving me inverse future

for example : "Second round it's a blank round"
actually : was a live round

happens into SP and MP

[rugged sun]

quick question, are y'all counting the current shot as the first shot? If so, then it'll display the right info. For example:

3 lives 4 blanks

1 shot is fired
phone call: second shot is blank
next shot is live

This is because it counts the current shot as the first shot (at least from my experience) so the 2nd shot that the phone said is actually the 3rd shot of the round

I do think it's a translation error, but if it's still giving false information with this example in mind, then it could definitely be a bug

[frigid crescent]

Its not supposed to be like that tho since it should count the rounds of the shotgun and not starting from you

Also i experienced that bug in some games but others just gave me the right answer (like when there's only 1 blank and 1 live , it'd tell me correctly the second was a live , so i could skip the blank and shoot) , it looks like its an actual bug but doesnt happen every match

[rugged sun]

interesting. Well that's good to know

[restive swallow]

Yep it should count it from the shotgun not from the player that why it says second shell, third shell etc.

[lofty palm]

From my study, it tells you a shell based on the current set of shells when it was used. If there's 5 left, it will tell you if one of THOSE shells is live or blank. Not from load start.

I got confused myself.

[rugged sun]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking as well

[restive swallow]

from the wiki "Upon use, the user will be told the location and type of a random shell loaded in the Shotgun only if there are 2 or more shells left in the chamber. Note that the phone will tell the location based on the current shell. (i.e. if the Burner Phone says "Second shell" it means the next shell after the one currently in the chamber.)

If the player attempts to use the Burner Phone while there is only 1 shell left in the shotgun's magazine, the Burner Phone will return "How Unfortunate...", wasting the item."

[lofty palm]

Yeah, well I'm pretty sure that's the case, as so far, I've been consistent with it, as long as I paid attention.

[lofty palm]

Exactly.

[brave carbon]

i have a video of the phone telling me that the second round is a fake one

and when i try it, it's a live one

[rugged sun]

Oh sick. Could you send it to me?

[brave carbon]

hold a sec

dummy shell in the table / it was the first shell of the match
phone tells me that second round is going to be a dummy shell
and actually was a live one

yeah i was kinda dumb in this one sawing the barrel...

[thorny folio]

yeah after playing for a few hours i feel pretty confindent in saying the burner phone just tells you the opposite of what the round is

[pine river]

yeah uh you got it wrong yourse

basically it will act like this:

fist shot: live

second shot: blank

uses phone: says third shell is blank

third shot: live (first shell from phones perspective)

forth shot: blank (second shell from phone)

fifth shot: blank (the actual shell that the phone meant)

only the magnifying glass will show you the current shell

[pine river]

the one that will be shot

[full dome]

So why were you so confident that the current shell would be blank, if you only knew the second remaining shell?

"Remaining" being the key word here. Counting from the current shell.

[full dome]

The wiki is right about all of this, by the way. The only thing to note is that in multiplayer the phone refuses to reveal information when there are 2 or less shells in the gun.

[gilded nacelle]

ive had it tell me shell 4 blank, and then on the same turn shell 4 live

both calls are back to back

[full dome]

Well, did you eject any shells between calls?

If not, then it's a really weird bug.

[brave carbon]

wait, i only played 2 times, it was the first turn
it loaded all the shells
the first try was a dummy one
the second try the phone says me it was a empty shell, but actually was a live one

i didn't get it

this didn't happen in the final build pre MP

wait.... now i get it

"(i.e. if the Burner Phone says "Second shell" it means the next shell after the one currently in the chamber.)"

from wiki

this make sense

it not counts from the first, it counts from the turn i'm playin

[rugged sun]

yep, that's how it works

I had a feeling people were getting it confused. I too got confused with it before

Also bilingual? Impressive. I'm trying to learn another language myself.

[brave carbon]

Thanks a lot !
I'm not really that good speaking english
But i'm trying hahah

[rugged sun]

I mean I wouldn't have guessed otherwise until I saw the clip. This is coming from a native English speaker btw

[zealous jungle]

maybe you just called the wrong number lol

[brave carbon]

I understand Spanish, English, a little from Italian, but i speak Portuguese, im from Brazil

[brave carbon]

lol
Don't worry
I'm not playin Hotline Miami 2

[rugged sun]

Ah I see. I'm currently trying to learn spanish with duolingo

[brave carbon]

Spanish is really good
If you get it
You can understand a little Portuguese and Italian

Italian reminds me a lot a little from Spanish and Portuguese

[fossil token]

The burner phone counts from the number of shells STILL INSIDE the shotgun. So if you have 6 total shells, 3 fired, and see "Second shot... Live round.", the round after the one currently in the chamber is live.

[woven bone]

Maybe the wording could be updated to be more clear?
“THIRD SHELL FROM NOW… BLANK.”

[brave carbon]

Thats right

[unreal yarrow]

FYI the admin here already confirmed on a bug post that there is currently a bug with the burner phone showing misinformation as of 29/10, so technically it is a bug of some sort

[brave carbon]

whaaaaaaat?

[unreal yarrow]

https://discord.com/channels/1158444754325999747/1300795835365462109this is the post

[vocal zealot]

is it like this?

or does it count every shell after the one that's currently loaded

the way it was worded on the wiki doesn't exactly make it the clearest

[fossil token]

This

[vocal zealot]

ah ight thanks

[cloud quartz]

Yes this is correct!

This is how i always thought it worked and it works fine

[lofty palm]

I was confuzzled at first.

[ocean island]

you are indeed correct

[halcyon stirrup]

most of the time it's worked for me, but here's some more video evidence of some BS happening.

[full dome]

LMAO.

[urban geode]

👆

[urban geode]

That isn't necessarily a bug, just an oversight that it tells you a random shell and thus there's a chance that shell will be the same one already mentioned. One of my friends is cursed to always be told the 6th shell, so that is a very annoying problem with the burner phone.

[halcyon stirrup]

That's not the issue. The first phone says "Seventh shell... live round" but the second phone says "Seventh shell... blank"

[urban geode]

oooohhhhh yeah that's definitely wrong lol

[coarse grotto]

Its always the current number of rounds

[noble pollen]

nvm im incredibly dumb