#The Acolyte Spoilers

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mint orbit
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Shame the article writer is grifter hack with zero media literacy

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Only view it for Headlands quotes

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“That’s a good question,” replied the showrunner. “I haven’t been following the coverage of the show enough to really answer that. I did hear that there was a bit of a dust up in terms of the girls stepping on Anakin’s creation storyline, which I had mixed feelings about.”

“It’s probably for another deep dive to kind of talk about that,” she told Walsh. “I would say that you might be missing the forest for the trees in starting an argument about that, instead of seeing that this is a power that could have existed in the world way before Anakin. And that power was being pursued by someone. So it’s not an issue of ‘paying attention to,’ but I did hear about that, and I just think people aren’t taking into account the era that we’re in.”```
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“It just seemed to me any power like that that does not belong to one faction,” explained the former assistant to Harvey Weinstein. “It is not something that Aniseya was born with either. It’s a power that belongs to the Force. And that it’s up to the practitioner to be able to understand and figure out and pull apart how do you harness that particular power.”

lean shard
mint orbit
lean shard
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i have my own thoughts about the weinstien thing

people only bring it up because either

they have no other criticism of her
the only other criticism of her that they have is basically homophobic and they dont wanna say that

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besides, its extremely unprofessional

white kindle
white kindle
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I assume so

languid ice
hidden lake
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Of course it's not something she's talked about so don't take it as fact

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lean shard
hidden lake
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That too

hot parrot
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Her master was producer Harvey Weinstein ?

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She allowed it for 6 years

mint orbit
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Allowed it

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You got a source?

hot parrot
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Yeah

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Her

mint orbit
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Shut up grifter

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Post it or shut up

hot parrot
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Claiming she didnt see anything for 6 years lmao

mint orbit
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Damn it's almost like an abuser wouldn't want the person closest to his affairs to know he's diddling kids

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That would never happen!

hot parrot
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EVERYBODY KNEW

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LMAOOOO

mint orbit
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No

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Everybody "knew"

hot parrot
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so deseperate to defend your slop

mint orbit
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Nobody KNEW

hot parrot
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You rather defend some abuser

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Epic

mint orbit
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So desperate to attack a show that you attack their previous jobs

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Throw around huge accusations

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What a scumbag

hot parrot
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You god damn clown

mint orbit
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Can you read or not fuck wad?

hot parrot
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She is an opportunist hack who leveraged her position to secure her job

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Its so fucking obvious

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Even more with the quality of acolyte

mint orbit
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You know all about opportunistic hacks tbf

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Maybe I should listen

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(i won't)

hot parrot
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But its okay

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Keep defending your slop

mint orbit
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When did I defend acolyte in this conversation you little snowflake fuck

hidden lake
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Everyone here knows it's mid

mint orbit
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Slightly better than mid

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Shits over Ahsoka imo

hot parrot
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Its absolutz dogshit

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But okay

mint orbit
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Okay grifter

hot parrot
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Lets agree to disagree

mint orbit
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Whatever you say

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Nah you don't deserve any mutual respect sorry

hot parrot
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Yeah everybody that disagree with you is a griftzr

mint orbit
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No just you

hot parrot
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You right carter

mint orbit
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You alt right

hot parrot
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Yeah

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Im hitler

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So embarassing you are

mint orbit
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I hope I do make you feel embarrassed because clearly you're never gonna feel any

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Honestly maybe if you get a false accusation of that level, you'd realise how embarrassed your mother would be that you made those accusations

hot parrot
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You have actors and movie professionnal who had the creeps over a 4 min interaction with harvey but that girl worked for 6 years with him.

mint orbit
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Don't you still glaze trump over Biden despite the many many pictures of him with Epstein lol

hot parrot
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And she dare say « i didnt ser anything »

mint orbit
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Where is the consistency

lean shard
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ok but if she knew

would she not have been tried as an accessory?

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hot parrot
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Nobody was tried as an accessory otherwise we would have to shutdown hollywood as a whole

mint orbit
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LOL

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When

hot parrot
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CAA would have shutdown on the spot

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Same for warner

mint orbit
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Naive

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Do you not understand "fuck you" money?

hot parrot
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Put just harvey in prison is a joke

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Even tarantino that i love should have go

lean shard
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dont look up which company helped produce tye LoTR trilogy

hot parrot
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Leslie clearly ignored everything for the sake of her career

hot parrot
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Despite « everything »

hidden lake
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That's
Exactly how he got away with it

hot parrot
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He was also a bully and very well connected

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Using former mossad agent and shit

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Bro was a menace

lean shard
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bro thinks that harvey just went "lesley, book 7pm for the 4 actresses i want to fuck"

hot parrot
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Yep

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The 4am meeting at the 4 seasons

lean shard
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if that was true he would've been tried like 15-2p years ago

hidden lake
hot parrot
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Bcs you underestimate the level of corruption in los angeles

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Between media, producer and civil powers

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Hollywood used to be 50% mafia at some point

mint orbit
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Yeah that's why you should start forming conspiracy theories and accusations that ruin lives

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Fucking GENIUS

lean shard
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guilty until proven innocent mindset

hot parrot
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Conspiracy theories lmaoo

mint orbit
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Shouldn't have to teach you things you learnt in school

mint orbit
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She CLEARLY did this thing despite no hard evidence

hot parrot
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107 testimonies of sexual assault

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17 testimonies of r*pe

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"bro she is innocent"

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"how could she know"

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i swear , its because of people like you that we will never get rid of this kind of scum

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Former colleagues and collaborators of Weinstein told reporters that these activities were enabled by employees, associates and agents who set up these meetings, as well as lawyers and publicists who suppressed complaints with payments and threats.

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She wasn't a 3 month intern. She worked there for S I X Y E A R S

mint orbit
mint orbit
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You're so fucking desperate that you keep telling me things about Harvey that I already know

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As if that changes a single thing about the scumbag accusations you're making without evidence on someone else

hot parrot
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without evidence

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alright

mint orbit
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So you're gonna stop supporting Trump in any way too right? Because scum like this can't be allowed to exist? Because he was complacent?

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But he knew them for years!

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So many reports!

hot parrot
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Why would i support Trump

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im not even american

mint orbit
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Fuck knows but you have done

hot parrot
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Yeah

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because he is way more credible than Joe Biden

hot parrot
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My bro joe is almost dead

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has been for months

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but it was all "fake news" and "deep fake"

lean shard
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vice president trump

hot parrot
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but finally when my dude is calling zelensky , Putin, in front of the all world

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hard to deny now

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fucking hypocrits

mint orbit
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Trump called Biden obama

hot parrot
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I dont care about the usa

lean shard
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but bro biden had a cold during the debate!!!!

hot parrot
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always has been the land of the con-man

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from reagan

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to trump

mint orbit
lean shard
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BRO DID YOU JUST POST AN OCCUPY DEMOCRATS IMAGE

hot parrot
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who fucking care

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it's a show

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always has been

lean shard
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WHAT IS THIS, 2016???

mint orbit
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But it gets most of the buzz phrases

hot parrot
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And yeah , trump is fucking enternaining

mint orbit
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LOL

lean shard
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all trump needs to do is say he'll bring back the $5 footlond and he'll win all 270

hot parrot
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yeah cool for the viewing figures

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we will see how s2 goes

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bcs we still waiting on sequel content right

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since it was a success

mint orbit
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Don't think anybody is. That tends to happen when you fully encapsulated the story

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NR is still being explored a lot for pre sequels

hot parrot
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honestly carter

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i have a huge respect for you

lean shard
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remember to vote for mr frog in the US election

hot parrot
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for you ability to overthing dogshit content

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it's crazy to me that you find depth

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in this shit

mint orbit
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Media literacy helps

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Small dose of copium too

hot parrot
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Like , most people jknow how sloppy the sequel are

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and yet

mint orbit
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Bro I call them mid

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Day in day out

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They are not GOOD

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But none of star wars is

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The morons are the people expecting it

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And it's not a slop thing, because I agree they're getting sloppy.. it's about having a piece of star wars for everyone

hot parrot
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yeah

lean shard
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peakolyte vs slopsoka

mint orbit
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In a franchise about hope... Nobody has any

hot parrot
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i have given up personnaly

mint orbit
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STAR WARS IS DEAD

hot parrot
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i'll take what i can and ignore the rest

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i didnt have the energy to bash the last episode

mint orbit
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I would respect that

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Legit

hot parrot
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i just hope to have more Qimir

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and a good reveal of the sith master

mint orbit
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qimir is refreshing for a sith. It's not just "evil cuz evil"

lean shard
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god acolyte is TRASH and is going to KILL STAR WARS I hate it so much!
watches the next episode the second is releases

mint orbit
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Look guys a super evil Inquisitor doing evil things!

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Or Reva with the cliche of "bad but not actually bad"

hot parrot
mint orbit
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I don't enjoy it as much as others but I wasn't gonna get it spoiled

hot parrot
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i knew something was up with Aemond

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not so hard to get thing together

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but still , the episode was good

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vahgha a bit op in my opinion tho

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bro got stealth maxed

mint orbit
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Oh you talking HOTD?

hot parrot
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yeah

mint orbit
hot parrot
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i thought you mean HOTD by GoT

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lmao

mint orbit
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Bro hit the "teleport dragon" hotkey

hot parrot
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YEAH

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especially the second kill

mint orbit
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I was fine with the rest but he's fucking huge wtf

lean shard
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HoTD spoilers without context

mint orbit
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Lol

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hot parrot
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my worst spoil

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was the vader hallway scene

hidden lake
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I got spoiled that they all died yodahmm

mint orbit
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I think I had the Vader appearance in Fallen Order spoiled

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I'm not sure

hot parrot
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and jane death in BB

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some fuck at work

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not like it was unexpected but still

mint orbit
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Damn that would be so lame to get spoiled

hidden lake
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Also I technically spoiled myself on Tech dying

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I saw the tippy top of the thumbnail and remembered bad batch came out that day 😭

lean shard
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movie leaks:
this character dies
noooooo!!!!!!

gas leaks:

mint orbit
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The gas is leaking? I got a solution

warped python
lucid glen
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That's a rough spoiler

warped python
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never got to see the movie until new years because i was out of town 😭🙏🏽

white kindle
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dude

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I am getting second-hand embarrassment from whatz talking about the Harvey Weinstein situation

mint orbit
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Idk why it can't just be a "it's suspicious" scenario

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Why is it "CLEARLY"

white kindle
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that reminds me of something someone in another server said

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when theorising about stuff

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where's the evidence that she knew about Weinstein?

mint orbit
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So far all we have a first person testimonial that they saw nothing of that kind

white kindle
mint orbit
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Yup

white kindle
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lol

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what about from people besides her?

mint orbit
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0

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Afaik not a single person has ever brought up Leslie's involvement

white kindle
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and I assume her testimony was under oath?

mint orbit
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Lol no

pseudo blade
mint orbit
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People joked about Bill Cosbys antics before

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Did anybody know for sure? Plenty still didn't believe until it went public public

white kindle
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The first time he was accused of SA was 2017.

pseudo blade
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this isnt news

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hell even carrie fisher told stories about threatening him over an assult on someone she knew

white kindle
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Okay

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But who is to say Headland knew?

turbid solar
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Breh

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Itd be like common knowledge

white kindle
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Wdym?

pseudo blade
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you dont have to witness incidents to know about Weinstein lmao
especially if she was in his working circle

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everyone knew he was a predator they just dealt with it bc that was the industry and he was a very powerful player in Hollywood

white kindle
turbid solar
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^

white kindle
turbid solar
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Common knowledge that weinsteins a creep

white kindle
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Wasn't it common knowledge?

white kindle
mint orbit
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Oh my fucking god will you please address the actual argument

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Whatz

hot parrot
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Nvm

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Its pointless

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I just read the early comments you made

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You dont want to hear anything

mint orbit
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Yes because you won't engage

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So why would i

hot parrot
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Bcs there is nothign to engage

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It was a open secret

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She is guilty

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End of the debate

mint orbit
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Which I literally admitted to with my first ever words in the conversation

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And multiple times

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Exhausting clown

hot parrot
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Alright good !

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white kindle
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You have provided no proof

mint orbit
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He's still trying to prove that the industry "knew"

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But is unable to differentiate between "knew" and KNEW FOR A FACT

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There is a big difference. If there wasn't a big difference then lie detectors would be usable in court.

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I've also provided the argument that quite a few actors and other huge roles that have said how shocked they were and that they never knew and that he never brought up anything even close to that

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It's crazy to me you could understand how much he's a crazy good manipulator and not think it's a possibility that he manipulated what Leslie saw

hot parrot
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You have an entire wikipedia page dedicated to the case explaining the network weinstein used over the years to cover himself. From hollywood insiders such as agents, actors, producer to external agent such as former mossad agent who pressured accusers and silenced witnesses

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Like Dominique Strauss-Khan

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Or that british pedophile

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Jimmy orville ?

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Everybody knew for a FACT the monster he was

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Thats why Ricky Gervais dunked on them so hard

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If at least Leslie had to the ball to say « yeah i saw some thing but i was just an assistant with no power to do anything and i was afraid » at least that would have been understandable.

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But lying to your teeth like that

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« I didnt see anything »

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Yeah okay

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« I DIDNT KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING »

mint orbit
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I appreciate the elaboration and sources, as it fleshes out your argument more but you still refuse to address the actual retort

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There is also evidence of people having any and all knowledge of this having been hidden from them. Do you understand how perfect an alibi is that your assistant not knowing anything is?

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Why would a master manipulator NOT consider that?

hot parrot
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If we were talking about someone who worked from time to time with him or some outsider from Miramax. Yeah we could argue about what that person could really know.
She was his personnal assistant for 6 years. I mean, seeing the amount of victims. It is near impossible for her to not have seen anything.

The same case could be made about Roger Ailes from Fox News. Everybody that worked with him knew.

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But he was protected by Murdoch because of the excellent results of Fox News. The same way Weinstein was protected by his reputation, connections, money and the enabling of his close coworkers such as Tarantino or famous actress that were fine with the « deal »

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cough cough jennifer lawrence

mint orbit
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If I give you ground and admit there's a high likelihood (higher than almost anyone else that we know of rn), will you give me ground that the legal system exists for a reason and you cannot say for certainty until there is a conviction

hot parrot
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No ofc

mint orbit
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Also as a side note, I've seen pretty crazy theories that trump got Epstein killed to protect his presidency lol

hot parrot
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No

mint orbit
hot parrot
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Im pretty sure Epstein was likely a mossad asset used to blackmail famous people

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He wasnt on any "side"

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just cultivating relations

hot parrot
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It's just infuriating to see Disney pushing that girl while trying to give lesson about patriachy bad

mint orbit
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I still think Cara was justified, but it does make it all look kinda silly lol

hot parrot
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Yeah exactly

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and on the other side cara get fired for some out of touch tweet

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i mean come on

mint orbit
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It's literally just Disney execs trying to overpush diversity. I will continue to defend that almost every one else in the chain doesn't give a shit like the execs do though

mint orbit
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Disney could plausible deniability but she just kept rage baiting

hot parrot
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Yeah , she got a bit overconfident on this one

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lmao

mint orbit
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I took it as a W anyway because she's an awful actor

hot parrot
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yeah true

mint orbit
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Good stunts ig but man the acting

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Was so stand out in an otherwise A tier cast

white kindle
hot parrot
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I really hope you never work closely to a toxic individual

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You'll see if you are really clueless to his behavior

white kindle
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There's no solid evidence that she knew.

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Sure, it's likely that she did, but given how much of a manipulator he was (based on what I've heard), I wouldn't be surprised if she somehow didn't.

white kindle
hot parrot
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harvey throttled someone. Harvey called an employee a fucking moron. Harvey threw the shoes, the book, the phone, the eggs. Harvey went to work with his shirt on inside-out and no one had the courage to tell him. If you fucking say anything to him, the assistant said to the other assistant, I’m dead.

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“I always thought it was interesting that a lot of people who left Miramax either ended up running shit in Hollywood or became social workers,”

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REALLY WONDER WHAT LESLIE CHOOSED 😉

mint orbit
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I cannot and will not keep my mouth shut

hot parrot
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good man

mint orbit
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I would be the first to get black listed from Hollywood lmao

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I'm also just gonna use this a segue in to massive respect for Terry Crews calling the bullshit out immediately

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And I'm beyond happy his career seems to have survived

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If every actor did this, eventually it wouldn't work anymore

white kindle
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lol

hot parrot
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Yeah but it's a very complex situation bcs more than often these toxic guys actually have talent. I think that was the issue at Ubisoft. Their biggest scumbag was actually the brain power behind their most successfull franchises

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As an executive producer, Harvey has a hell of a run

mint orbit
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I know

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Every actor is a pure pipe dream

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It's not in the land of reality

warped python
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Moment of realization that The acolyte and the boys season finale is this week

obsidian basin
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genuinely hope the boys pulls through with its finale man

mint orbit
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@hot parrot

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If Leslie is #1 likely, he's looking like a very profitable prediction for #2

ivory sedge
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I'm worried that the finale is either gonna be rushed or feel convoluted, Im hoping for a satisfying conclusion

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Honestly if rather some stuff is open ended for a chance of a s2

mint orbit
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Me too

ivory sedge
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Like don't kill everyone please 😭🙏🙏

mint orbit
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If it's a solid mystery landing and wraps up plot threads then imma call it a 7 for me

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If not.. 6

ivory sedge
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Yeah I'm hoping to end with a 7

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Fun, interesting watch but could've had much better presentation and execution

lean shard
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you know media literacy is dead when you have people going "why did she say the nightsisters dont train younglings? how do you explain ventress then?"

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like bruh, did they even watch TCW?

languid ice
lean shard
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on an assumption, they dont train magic until they're adults/teenagers

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but what we do know is that the jedi know fuck all about them

mint orbit
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Yeah isn't like the youngest trained nightsister we've seen Morgan

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And she wasn't that young tbh

lean shard
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force echos merrin

mint orbit
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True

lean shard
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but those just have her making potions really

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not really force related stuff

lean shard
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Leslie Headland says that Yord Fandar was a character from one of her old TTRPG games

languid ice
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Lol

lucid glen
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Acolyte finale tomorrow

vagrant scarab
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I thought it was today

lucid glen
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The show has had its ups and downs but personally I wish they focused more on the sith than the jedi

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All the marketing and shit made me think it was a sith-oriented show

hidden lake
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Which is tomorrow for other people

lament peak
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3 hours

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I think

jade pelican
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Yeee

lean shard
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HES IN

hidden lake
lean shard
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you cant just tease me with plagueis

elfin star
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That Yoda cameo sucked so bad, otherwise episode was good

jade pelican
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Niceeee

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Finna watch rn

elfin star
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Overall better than BOBF and Kenobi at least

jade pelican
hidden lake
jade pelican
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Yeah

hidden lake
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What the dark side does to a mf

jade pelican
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Now that is really a good depiction of a sith lord I feel, well more specifically plag ofc

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But yeah

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I mean that is truly what I imagine the dark side brings

jade pelican
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Just like how Palps and ani got deformed but that’s maybe a little different

mortal reef
lean shard
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its very early in the episode

mortal reef
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holy hell how did i miss that scene

hidden lake
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Mf was holding the skip 10 secs button

mortal reef
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i was focused on the space ship i think

lean shard
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alright final ranking of the show

im gonna say....maybe a 7/10?

hidden lake
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I'm suprised that they went through with the commitment to show the dark side in a "good" light

mortal reef
lean shard
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its a decent show

warped python
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that bleeding kyber crystal was fire 😭🙏🏽

hidden lake
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That was sick yeah

warped python
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it shall be interesting knowing theyre on the same island as Plagueis

mortal reef
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maybe plagueis keeping tabs on a failed apprentice? he could be curious to see how things are going, especially if 'how things are going' turns out to be a threat

jade pelican
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Damn that was a crazy tease

warped python
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I kinda feel bad for Sol no lie 💀

jade pelican
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Plag looks metal and beyond creepy

mortal reef
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anyone got a gif yet?

jade pelican
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Bro did that little beaver crash the ship intentionally? Or what the fuck was that

mortal reef
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idfk whats up with the groundhog

jade pelican
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Sol was making a big play to catch mae or something and he pulled the wires lmao

mortal reef
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first he confronts mae. now he protects her. ???

warped python
mortal reef
warped python
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I thought mae and osha were gonna merge together or some shit 💀

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idefk why

jade pelican
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Sol’s defense against qim went so hard

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This is peak star wars

obsidian basin
obsidian basin
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time to watch the episode

warped python
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like you really barely see that fr in fights

jade pelican
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Lmao qimir flexing his jawline after sol got cap’d

jade pelican
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Such a great build up wondering what he’s going to do

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Goes for the ultimate chad cc

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I really like the sequence when the twins were fighting and they were mirroring eachother’s attacks one after another

lean shard
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darth plagueis' goon cave

warped python
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IF they do make another season it's definitely gonna and gotta be more about Plaguies figuring out about osha and mae's power right ? how else does he just want to recreate life and end up with the whole anakin shabang

languid ice
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SO GOOD SO GOOD

jade pelican
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@turbid solar get in here, I think this might be what spending hours mewing in a sensory deprivation tank leads to

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Ultimate strat

warped python
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Bro has been Mogging this whole season

jade pelican
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Lmao I love when qimir goes to console oshie and she’s just like “AND FUCK YOU TOOOO”

lean shard
turbid solar
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Buddy been chewing bubble gum is all

languid ice
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Inb4 to see what bs the "how did the jedi not know the sith were coming back????" Mfs make up

mortal reef
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sol died before he could reveal that Qimir is/was sith, and he was more interested in the force vergence on brendok, so i doubt he would've even thought it necessary in the first place

languid ice
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Now to see if disney even lets them make a s2

jade pelican
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🍻

obsidian basin
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bleeding the kyber crystal that killed your mother and using it for yourself is pretty metal

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interesting turn of events, sol was done dirty 😔

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i genuinely wasn’t very interested in mae or osha until the fucking finale lmao, them finally being okay with being separate people somehow made them more interesting and/or likeable for me

languid ice
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So real

obsidian basin
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also do we have any other instances of crystals bleeding like that in live action or animation? or any detailed descriptions of a kyber crystal being bled? wondering if that blue to red transformation is canon/identical to how all other kyber crystals bleed

mortal reef
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I don't think we've seen a kyber bled while the blade was active before

vernal scaffold
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But the saber was inactive yeah

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Just the crystal

mortal reef
obsidian basin
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😭😭😭

vernal scaffold
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This wasnt too identical to what happened in JS

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But yeah it is what it is

obsidian basin
mortal reef
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and the way the crystal was bled does track with how the methods been described

languid ice
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Yeah its always been while inactive

mortal reef
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like the crystal is practically watching the person it chose to wield it have the life choked out of him, while being held by the person force choking him, and in proximity to a force vergence

obsidian basin
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so acolyte is either creating lore or breaking lore

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can’t wait for the videos crying regardless

languid ice
mortal reef
vernal scaffold
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I didnt enjoy the show too much unfortunately

mortal reef
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Fair

vernal scaffold
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I had some fun for the first 5 or 6 episodes

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But overall not to my liking

obsidian basin
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when i saw the crystal go from red to blue i expected the blade to be red upon ignition, since, red crystal? but dramatics i guess

mortal reef
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the blade showing the change while ignited is a novel thing afaik

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good cinematic

obsidian basin
mortal reef
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novel as in new

obsidian basin
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ah okay

languid ice
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I mean she ignated the saber while the krystal was transforming

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If she waited like 10secs it would have been immediately red

obsidian basin
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perhaps i rewatch, i assumed it went completely red

mortal reef
obsidian basin
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he knows

languid ice
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yeye we do be like that

mortal reef
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the crystal does fight for its life during a bleeding iirc

obsidian basin
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so perhaps that blue to red shift was the crystal dying

languid ice
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it kinda is

mortal reef
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yeah

obsidian basin
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nice

languid ice
#

Kyber crystals are pretty much alive

obsidian basin
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correct

languid ice
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From a certain point of view

mortal reef
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that's why I'm referring to the crystal as something that can react

mortal reef
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so it makes sense that it can feel

languid ice
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Ok enough acolyte

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We begin outlaws hype train

obsidian basin
mortal reef
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outlaw bad
gib me upvote

silver marsh
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FUCK YODAS IN IT

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#1236441253332127845 message

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Plagueis isnt in it is he?

sour goblet
silver marsh
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FUCK

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@heavy mulch will you help me reenact the prequels at an undetermined future date

pseudo blade
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you’re hit with the double whammy lmfao

sour goblet
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both in the last episode, oof

silver marsh
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This is gonna be fun for me

heavy mulch
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Yeah

silver marsh
heavy mulch
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Yes

silver marsh
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I’ll let you know when it’s happening

heavy mulch
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Well my bet didn’t go through so yeh

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Sol didn’t snap

silver marsh
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I still have to watch this

heavy mulch
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Bro the fuck are you doing here

silver marsh
heavy mulch
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This episode has one of the biggest SW spoilers of the decade legitimately

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Go watch it

silver marsh
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I’ll binge later

lucid glen
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Lol wojak-pointing and EU bait aside, I'm surprised Plagueis is shown to be older here

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This is set 100 years before TPM, meaning Plagueis is easily approaching 200 years old at the time of his death

fickle tide
velvet aspen
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I fuckin called it 😂. Now can we stop pretending this show doesn't fuck up the chosen one canon? Anakin was the force lashing back at plagueis and Palpatine for trying to create life but the force was totally cool with these witches doing it first. AND plagueis is creeping in the shadows and saw them doing it all?

Come on man 😂

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I tried to give this show a chance but the exact thing I was afraid of happened. 😣

white kindle
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Idk how I feel about that episode

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There were some cool parts but also some rather meh bits

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Though the duel between Qimir and Sol was fkin peak!

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I wish it could've gone on for longer

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And there seemed to be a reference to Ani vs Obi in it

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Plagueis!!!

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And Yoda for absolutely no reason

velvet aspen
thin depot
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HSNDHQKQHYYQ

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UEKWG

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IS THAT

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IS THAT ||PLAGUEIS||

velvet aspen
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This whole time, so many people saying that dissenters were catastrophizing and whatnot about the show before anything happened but we were right lol! It ended the way a lot of us predicted. Upending the chosen one canon nonsensically.

velvet aspen
thin depot
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How so

velvet aspen
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See my previous message.

velvet aspen
thin depot
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Nevermind, read your comment

velvet aspen
white kindle
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That worked the same as usual

velvet aspen
white kindle
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Extreme negative emotions = crystal bleed

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That's literally how it works

velvet aspen
white kindle
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Look at Jedi Survivor

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What did Vader do in that comic?

velvet aspen
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That's not how it works because that comic is still canon

white kindle
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"Bleeding was accomplished by pouring rage, hate, fear and pain into a kyber crystal by means of the dark side of the Force, until the crystal changed, resulting in the crimson-bladed lightsabers associated exclusively with dark side adepts."

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That's literally how it works

velvet aspen
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It's a long story so I'm oversimplifying, but Vader goes to bleed his crystal and it rebounds on him. Then later he succeeded but it wasn't easy.

white kindle
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And it had been for the longest time

velvet aspen
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The point is that trying to do it intentionally was super hard for force Jesus, but this girl who took a long break from the force did it accidentally

white kindle
velvet aspen
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I didn't say non canon. I said inconsistent. It's obviously canon because it's a Disney property so by definition (unfortunately) it's canon

white kindle
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We have seen several cases of it in canon

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So is the comic

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When was the comic made?

velvet aspen
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Yea man, hence me choosing the word inconsistent. I think you're missing my point. How did some random kid who hadn't trained in a long time accidentally bleed a crystal and Vader had to endure an alternate timeline in his head among other things to do it intentionally?

white kindle
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Hmmm

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I'm not sure

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Ig that is a bit weird

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It doesn't entirely go against existing canon as she was "pouring her negative emotions" into the saber.

lucid glen
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You know, the chosen one of the force

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Of course he's gonna get light side visions

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It'll be far easier for literally any other darksider because they don't hold as important a position in the Force

velvet aspen
lucid glen
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If bleeding a crystal was as difficult as you claim, most sith wouldn't be able to do it

lucid glen
white kindle
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I'm thinking the reason she bled it by accident was because she was feeling such strong emotions that it impacted her saber.

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Osha still has the force

velvet aspen
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But vaders is?

white kindle
lucid glen
# velvet aspen How??? 😂 Oh come on

You're falsely equating vader and osha because they happen to have similar birth circumstances. Crystal bleeding has nothing to do with that. Crystal bleeding is ONLY to do with your connection to the dark side

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Vader being the chosen one meant he experienced visions others wouldn't

velvet aspen
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Osha put on a helmet and got upset.

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Vader killed kids and overthrew a government

white kindle
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Dagan bled his saber relatively easily, even though he (technically) hadn't used the force in ages.

velvet aspen
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And killed his wife

lucid glen
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Vader is the chosen one of the force, hence he got light side visions urging him not to do it

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It is that simple, that's why he struggled more than osha

velvet aspen
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It's really not

white kindle
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Osha found out her mother was killed by the person she has looked up to for her whole life. Finding out something like that is going to generate a lot of negative emotions.

velvet aspen
white kindle
white kindle
velvet aspen
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Osha is a vergence in the force just like Anakin according to the show. So they have more in common than their birth if we follow where the show is leading us

lucid glen
velvet aspen
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Y'all are doing some mental gymnastics just to avoid admitting that this show has contradicted several points in established canon. Even post Disney

lucid glen
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No you're just fishing for reasons to crap on it

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It has contradicted nothing

white kindle
velvet aspen
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No I'm not. Lol. I gave the show a shot and watched it all and my fear of the plagueis thing ended up being right

white kindle
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You are

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"My fear of the Plageuis thing"

lucid glen
white kindle
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Sounds like you sre

velvet aspen
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So the force was cool with dark side witches doing their thing, plagueis witnesses it all and the force decided to change its mind?

thin depot
white kindle
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The only thing I can think of that directly contradicts prior canon is Mundi's age.

thin depot
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So she has a lot of built up negative emotions inside her

lucid glen
white kindle
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I remember that line within the show

velvet aspen
thin depot
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And when she learns the person she has looked up to the most killed her own mother, I think its pretty easy to understand how all those emotions would just explode and fill her with hatred

white kindle
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Yeah

lucid glen
white kindle
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What I was saying

velvet aspen
white kindle
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People feel emotions differently

lucid glen
#

Mundi 💀

velvet aspen
#

If you still don't get it, look up the meaning of several

lucid glen
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GG ez

thin depot
#

Didn't Plagueis learn how to prevent his own death?

white kindle
velvet aspen
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Oh and Yoda knowing about this shit and acting brand new in the prequels

lucid glen
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He's one of the mundi superfans (they didn't exist before acolyte)

white kindle
velvet aspen
lucid glen
thin depot
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Wasnt there something about Plagueis in the ep9 novel?

white kindle
#

Guys just shut up about Mundi's age

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That isn't relevant to the debate

white kindle
lucid glen
white kindle
#

Why do we csre about Mundi's age? It's such a minor thing.

lucid glen
#

It's nothing, it's not even minor

white kindle
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Idk what's up with Yoda

lucid glen
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It's a whole bunch of nothing

thin depot
#

Do we even know how long Mundis species live

velvet aspen
white kindle
#

Dude what

lucid glen
white kindle
#

I'm just listening to something kn the news about a Miss Headland being injured

lucid glen
velvet aspen
white kindle
#

Move onto something else

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That actually contradicts canon

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I find the Mundi thing stupid

velvet aspen
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Alright, we're obviously going nowhere. Y'all keep pretending this show is good and I'll go live in reality

lucid glen
#

I already gave my reasoning, where's yours?

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Oh wait, there isn't one

thin depot
#

Brother waffling almost worse than fuckin soyager

white kindle
lucid glen
#

Bro's dodging our rebuttals like it's the mfing matrix

white kindle
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Lmao

lucid glen
#

He pretended he didn't see the part where vader's role in the force as the chosen one is the reason he struggled with the crystal bleeding

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Because it actually disproves him

white kindle
white kindle
lucid glen
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Because it is easy

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Otherwise sith wouldn't have red lightsabers all the time

white kindle
#

Dagan struggled as much as Osha

lucid glen
#

Vader is a unique circumstance because it's fucking vader

white kindle
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Yeah

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Obvs

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We haven't seen any other Sith get visions from it before.

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Lmao

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The reason Grievous doesn't have red sabers is that he failed the visons quick time event.

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And of course bro just dipped

white kindle
lucid glen
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Facts brother. So true my friend

white kindle
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or they are on another level of stupid

thin depot
white kindle
#

someone is on the lightsaber changing schtick on YT as well!

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We've now seen several fallen Jedi bleed their kyber crystals to turn them red. I originally thought that was only something the Sith did, but there is a key difference between their two methods according to the Darth Vader comics by Charles Soule.

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oh my goodness

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don't tell me this is relevant to this controversy

lucid glen
white kindle
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yeah

lucid glen
#

The fact that its still so believable is a testament to how bad SW criticism has gotten

white kindle
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I just had a read over the comments on a video of the scene where she kills Sol

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the number of people complaining about the kyber bleeding is insane

lean shard
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they go for the vader example but ignore dagan?

white kindle
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yeah

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though I saw the argument that Dagan had the time to ponder

lean shard
#

the jedi giving the old CIA special by saying that sol committed suicide by self inflicted force choke wounds, no you cant see see the body

white kindle
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??

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what scene are you talking about when you say you can't see the body?

lean shard
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they burnt it

white kindle
#

when was that again?

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I'm trying to think of what the scene looked like

mortal reef
#

he's just miming vernestra saying the Senate can't see the body

white kindle
#

yeah

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oh right

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she burnt it

languid ice
#

(Balance)

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The mundi age malding still continues

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People manage to amuse me everyday

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"You're wrong!!!!😂😂" leaves chat

coarse dirge
#

gonk loves his weekly slop dose

languid ice
coarse dirge
#

cant wait for skeleton crew guys!!

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qimir was cool and the fight scenes were good

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the rest was ass

languid ice
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Im sorry to hear that!

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Why did you think so!

coarse dirge
#

what.

languid ice
white kindle
white kindle
languid ice
#

WHEN WILL IT STOP AHHHHHHHH

lean shard
# languid ice

the book itself says that he was over a hundred when talking to palpatine in 65bby

coarse dirge
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also like yea sol is very evil for killing mommy but why did she turn into evil smoke randomly

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And its never even brought up

lean shard
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@languid ice heres an image to shut those people up

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they wanna quote the plagueis novel? go quote it directly back at them

jade pelican
#

Live action father plagueis got me geekin with excitement

obsidian basin
#

because as far as we and the jedi in the acolyte finale are aware, sol is the traitor

silver marsh
#

BREAKING NEWS: CANON INCONSISTENT!

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Is Star Wars dead forever? Experts say yes!

obsidian basin
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there is no qimir, and no sign of the twin that wasn’t evil, and the one that was allegedly evil is clueless

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as of right now the jedi order is completely blind

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just like the prequels

silver marsh
lean shard
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they inte tionally ignore that fact and the usual response when you say that is "well GEORGE signed off on it!!!"

silver marsh
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George signed off on selling SW to Disney too lmao

languid ice
lean shard
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hold on i got an idea

languid ice
#

Actually rubs me off in the wrong way

silver marsh
#

The Ki-Adi-Mundi thing is the single dumbest controversy I have ever heard of

lean shard
#

theres a jojo meme where its like "your next words are X"

make a meme of that ("your next words are "well george signed off on it") before they even post a response

silver marsh
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And proof that SW fans do not deserve anything

languid ice
#

Its funny because i bet they didnt even know until someone told them

silver marsh
#

The whole debate can be summed up as

"they broke canon"

"that wasn't canon it was from legends"

"IM GONNA KILL YOU"

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Guarantee you Ki-Adi-Mundi was nobody's favorite Jedi before a month ago

languid ice
#

😭🙏

obsidian basin
#

imagine looking at mundis head and consciously saying “yeah he’s my favourite”

silver marsh
#

Battlefront II nostalgia is the only reason I would assume someone would have Mundi as their favorite

lucid glen
#

Where my agen kolar fans at❓❗

lament peak
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Kcaj fans

lucid glen
#

That is one ugly mf

lament peak
#

The shittiest of the gulp shittos

lean shard
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nah the goat

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he survived order 66

lament peak
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He should have got the clone wars season 7 order 66 scene instead of ahsoka

sour goblet
languid ice
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Unironically the worst jedi in existance

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Just above vernestra and krell

lament peak
hot parrot
#

God that was so boring

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The plagueis and yoda cameo were useless

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but i dont get the fuss about it. Nothing indicate that plagueis learned anything from the witches

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Qimir still great tho

lucid glen
#

The plagueis cameo anyway did serve some purpose. I didn't really give a shit about him, it was for like 5 seconds so it doesn't matter to me

hot parrot
#

Yeah thats why it was useless. It's just "hey look its plagueis !"

lucid glen
#

The purpose of his cameo being, to act as foreshadowing and set up some possible storylines if there ever is a season 2

hot parrot
#

Hell of a risk tho

lucid glen
#

Plus, to get fans more excited for a possible season 2. Which makes sense, considering how people have been crapping all over the show

hot parrot
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I would rather have some venestra and qimir backstory than that cameo

lucid glen
#

...

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How would you fit that into the 5 seconds then

hot parrot
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not in 5 sec obviously lmao

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46min , you can add another 10

lucid glen
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I don't get it, obviously backstories being fleshed out achieves more than a 5 second cameo but they are two vastly different things

lucid glen
hot parrot
#

Choreography still great also

lucid glen
#

Nice, I should probably watch the episode

hot parrot
#

you dont miss anything great

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honestly i dont get osha/mae, it's the main character and i have 0 interest in her

lucid glen
#

Ig the great choreography was a lie then

hot parrot
#

Just the sol qimir fight

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I mean Qimir fighting style is very entertaining

lament peak
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Their will probably be one in season 2 anywayFinnSmile

hot parrot
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not flashback, just some dialogue that gives more than "my old evil apprentice is in fact, not dead !"

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something we already knew bcs of the whip/scar reveal in the last episode

lament peak
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Who would even talk to eachother about it

hot parrot
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I dont know , im not a writer on the show, give me the job and ill think about it quickly

lament peak
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Okay broDarthLonen

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Literally none of the characters in the finale could talk to each other about it, it would make no sense

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Sol doesn't know qimir is vernestras old padawan

hot parrot
#

make them litteraly talk to each other ?

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Why do you even bother teasing the whip if you don't at least showcase it in the finale

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i get the foreshadowing on Qimir but still

lament peak
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It would make no sense for the characters to talk about it because only qimir and vernestra know about the connection

hot parrot
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They could have a short fight

lament peak
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Yeah but they don't meet in the episode

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Vernesta wouldn't be able to lie if 10 jedi saw a guy with a red lightsaber

hot parrot
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Yeah its just a suggestion, im not saying they should have forced a fight scene. The whole episode should have been reworked

lament peak
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There will definitely be a season 2 lol..

hot parrot
lament peak
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What do you mean copium its literally the second most viewed star wars show

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Bad reviews don't matter if you have an audience

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(Ahsoka season 2)

lucid glen
#

It shouldve been andor....

lament peak
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Its too good

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Good star wars shows don't get views!

lucid glen
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True there's no audience for 40 yo soccer moms in andor, unlike mandalorian

thin depot
#

Honestly, i'd give this show like, a 7,5 or an 8

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Enjoyeable, excellent fighting scenes, intriguing story, a bit goofy acting and dialogue sometimes, but mostly good

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A fun watch too

broken turret
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I think this shows biggest sin is it doesn’t wrap itself up neatly in one season, episodes should’ve had longer run times, I don’t really want to wait another 2-3 years to see how Osha’s story fully ends

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But that aside it’s a fine show, it’s not the Star Wars ender everyone says it is, and hell it gets a lot right like the fight scenes, Qimir is consistently the best part of this series

pseudo blade
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^ this tbh

jade pelican
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Yeah qimir is dope

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Definitely brings a lot to the show

velvet aspen
broken turret
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Sol was very good too, probably my favorite character from the series tbh

velvet aspen
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also that was my favorite fight scene in the show

silver marsh
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The Acolyte is over and yet Star Wars still lives

queen crypt
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I finally watched them both

queen crypt
#

It'll be perfect 🙏🙏

lament peak
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I want vernestras padawan to appear in Acolyte season 2 even though he'd be 114

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Assuming he doesn't die in high republic vol 3 ya know

queen crypt
#

It'll definitely have a lower budget tho

lament peak
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They probably spent some of it on drugs

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I think the show has really good affects but definitely not 180 million

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Maybe I'm just a glazer idk

queen crypt
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But I just don't see the 180 million

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Especially with episode 7

lean shard
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they shot on location

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so travelling across the world to different areas of europe etc with the full cast, crew, props etc

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is gonna cost a lot

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building full sets instead of half assing it with the volume is also gonna cost a lot

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andor avoided this slightly by just using IRL locations in london for a lot of coruscant scenes

queen crypt
lean shard
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"Obviously the species has been determined, if not by [Star Wars] canon, then by Legends and definitely by head-canon for everybody. So when we were designing him and talking about his appearance, it was a lot of ‘Crimson Peak,’ of Guillermo del Toro,” Headland said.

warped python
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star wars hasn't died yet but it'll get there in the next decade trust 🙏🏽🗿

silver marsh
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we can only hope

silver marsh
#

Sadly

regal carbon
#

I have to ask this but is anyone else having this uncomfortable feeling of like Qimir and Osha being a romantic thing?

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Maybe it’s just me but It almost looks like that’s the direction they’re going towards for those two, if that’s the case then it doesn’t feel right? It just feels off.

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Other than that I did like the final combat and the cameo parts.

#

What did you guys think about the episode or the season? Some of the stuff was not bad but I don’t think I would watch it again. Good actors but an okayish story.

pseudo blade
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I mean that was stated no?
the writers were leaning into the whole seduced by the dark side

hot parrot
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Nothing new

lean shard
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but the creator is a lesbian

hot parrot
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Well Leslie self inserted her wife. So you gotta take a look at the others writers

white kindle
queen crypt
white kindle
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lol

regal carbon
#

there were some things that made me smack my head like the flip flopping of May, both kept swapping, it’s just annoying. I’m certainly not going to talk about episode 3 the pOwer of mAnY no thank you.

As for what I said earlier about seducing by the darkside I can see that but why does it feel like sexual/relationship type. I mean if they’re a thing then good for them I guess but it felt like it was executed really weird in an uncomfortable way LOL. If I didn’t feel uncomfortable about it then I’d be fine with it, it’s probably just a me thing though.

The fighting I will say they executed that perfectly, other than that I don’t really like the writing at all.

hot parrot
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same for " a personal story rather than a fate-of-the-galaxy type situation"

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It could litteraly be a sidious prequel

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"many little girls get to pretend to be Rey"

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name one

silver marsh
queen crypt
jade pelican
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Oshie ❤️

regal carbon
queen crypt
hot parrot
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« But yeah baby, Plagueis »

coarse dirge
white kindle
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That was a baby??

white kindle
#

They basically say that Anakin was conflicted when he bled his crystal, whereas Osha wasn't.

hot parrot
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Honestly im not even a book/comic turbonerd but any justification about this topic sound like super cope

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Making the saber turn to red just bcs she is a little mad was stupid

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It was just made for the « wow factor »

queen crypt
hot parrot
#

« it also reveals how challenging bleeding a kyber crystal can be. Of course, this was different from Osha's experience bleeding her own kyber crystal, but those distinctions still make sense. Yes, »

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Peak journalism

hot parrot
queen crypt
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It's not even that bad imo

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Like a 6/10

hot parrot
#

For star wars ?

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Yeah

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But if you compare it to the global television medium its a 3/10

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Shogun came out the same year. The difference in quality is crazy

queen crypt
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Only thing that really spoiled the show for me was episode 7

hot parrot
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Honestly we got Qimir and Sol and im greatfull for them

#

They were good and refreshing characters

queen crypt
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Definitely

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The sets and visuals were great

hot parrot
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Qimir is everything Kylo should have been

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The fight were great

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The guy who designed the fighting choregraphy for Qimir deserve a bonus pay

queen crypt
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I wish we had more fights of mae with knives

queen crypt
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Who ever added the slow motion deserves a minus pay

hot parrot
#

The slow motion jump ?

queen crypt
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Yes

hot parrot
#

Oh yes

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That was cringe

queen crypt
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It was so bad

#

The slow motion in episode 7 was awful too

white kindle
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yeah

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that was weird

lean shard
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nah the slow motion was good

crouching tiger, hidden dragon type shit

pseudo blade
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action scenes slow motion is very early 2000s
it’s quite dated in fight scenes

jade pelican
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Was it even a slow motion effect though?

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To me it just looked like that was the speed at which Sol chose to descend

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I mean you don’t wanna get disoriented right

lean shard
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has read, respects and draws elements from the EU
puts WEG star wars TTRPG characters from games she played in 90s in her show
"I want the guy from squid game, X-23, Trinity and Danny Manchito in star wars, so i'm going to cast the guy from squid game, X-23, Trinity and Danny Manchito in my star wars show"
obsesses over minor shit like munn finger length
has a writers room and picks a writer who hasnt seen star wars so her show doesnt become self referential fanboy slop
makes sure there is no retcons in her show

hot parrot
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Wish she would obsess on good writing

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Pointless cameo that serves no purpose others to bait the viewer into wanting a s2

languid ice
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If we get to see plagieous in a major role i'll see this as a major win

hot parrot
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I guess we will def get a second season, so we'll see

lean shard
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HEADLAND: "George Lucas was inspired by so many different films, and also in Clone Wars he was. There are whole episodes that are based on films that he loves, like The Wrong Jedi is based on The Wrong Man. He was so in clearly in love with film. I wouldn't go so far as to say that Star Wars is pastiche, but there's definitely an element of that within the Star Wars visual vocabulary. So again, I'm here, I am doing what I never thought would happen. I'm doing something impossible. I'm doing something that, like, 10 people have done, and I was like, “I would like to explore the cinematic and literary references that I like.”

"With Osha and The Stranger’s relationship, Bram Stoker's Dracula by Francis Ford Coppola — which I know is different from the book — that film is one of my favorite films. Again, it was to have someone that was so scary, to have somebody that we clearly see is a bad guy, and he's doing bad things, and Lucy is dying, and then to have this deep connection with Mina, where you see a totally different side of him. One of the things that really works about that movie is that there is this past life, soulmate, reincarnation idea for this character that has been alive for centuries, and he is just shocked to find her Actually, in earlier drafts, The Stranger had a line from that movie, which is, “I have crossed oceans of time to find you.” A lot of Gothic romances were referenced — Jane Eyre, Rochester and sort of the Byronic hero for those two."

"Literally the last shot of the show is the two of them holding the same lightsaber. It’s the last shot of Fight Club — these are two people that are looking out under the horizon and believing that their power is intense, and strong, and shared, and passionate."

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what in the actual fuck is that

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Literally the last shot of the show is the two of them holding the same lightsaber. It’s the last shot of Fight Club — these are two people that are looking out under the horizon and believing that their power is intense, and strong, and shared, and passionate."

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the fuck is homegirl smoking

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osha has absolutely no idea of what she is , what she wants or what she is capable of

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she 360° the whole season

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She is trying so hard to give depth to her show through interviews

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just do a good fucking show and then you can yap about it

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This shit actually remind me of the last season of true detective when the new director just slapped the spiral and Rust's father into her slop and acted like it was some kind of deep reference somehow thinking she gave an answer to all of s1 unanswered questions and the original director just straight up bashed her publicly

hot parrot
ivory sedge
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finally saw the episode