#Lady Nagant
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Mt Lady mains that remain are lucky af that YAFO isn’t that popular
otherwise their 1 good thing that got buffed disappears
Really clan name nagants using the beta bug and fishing for melee into special action, so lame 
when are they gonna nerf this nagant? more movement then every rapid in the game. i hate meta slaves
Its not even that her base kit has it
It'd be way easier without the go to space button
But yeah every single one i run into tonight is doing it now....
Guys
I never do the meele into special
Bc i mostly miss it anyway
What am i doing wrong? Bc i always tend so slide to side after air meele
And when i special i miss
Probably move to the side too much and out of the way
Aiight every single nagant i lose to is just her sitting in the air.....
What is happening tonight that they just choose to be spineless
Without her exploit nah
But she still has really good movement
she has WAY too much movement for a sniper. the damage i can understand but she can reach 40% of the map with just both her gammas. atleast make it just 1 charge. byking really doesn't know how to balance out a game
people agree with me
I think everyone including myself agrees with you that she needs a nerf
Clearly not everyone agrees what that nerf should be though
And I was disagreeing with you that she had more movement than rapids
without the exploit
Really gonna have to yell at hori who gave her that mobility in show too, dunno what to tell ya
But yeah it really isnt anyone saying she doesnt need a nerf, but her mobility without the bug is less than like iron mights even. Not bad movement but i prefer
movement personally
yes, without the exploit, she has more movement then some rapids... "cough" "cough" ..twice.. "cough" "cough". but with the exploit she has the most movement in the game. i think she should have 1 charge in her gamma and the recoil in her gamma should be lower. shes a sniper, not a rapid so remove that bs movement and she would still do good damages
She shouldnt get one charge just because twice isnt as big a blur on the screen as other rapids or over the exploit though
shes a sniper. in other games she should have no movement at all. but we are talking about byking. snipers should never have movement but byking will give her anyways. so atleast limit it
Maybe they can move the 2 charges to like level 7 but this game really should just give everyone an option to reposition better
sniper movement i see is running or grapple hook. which is more then enough for a sniper
Again you gotta yell at the author who gave her air walk and the whole propelling herself with gunshots (dark deku ac she basically did all that mobility)
Don’t apply standards from other games to this
Like you're thinking it in CoD terms and not my hero for some reason 
If you made her work like an actual sniper from battlefield or something she would be ahh
This game has way too much terrain, AOE and is too fast paced for one to function properly
i never played battlefield, but i rather fight against that then how she is now
battlefield sniping is worse, they literally are other end of the map camping and 1 shotting you
you don’t include their 99/100 misses though
the people sitting at the back on firestorm aren’t doing squat
yes, SOME. not that mobility she has now, thats why 1 gamma charge is more then enough for her
Why doesnt strike deku have 1 gamma then?
cause his snipe used ALL his ammo
Tbf Nagant gamma is way better than strike Deku’s gamma
Strike doesnt
But I dislike going overboard from the start
you could probably just make her 2nd gamma charge lvl 9
the real problem is her exploit, her sa damage and the quick scoping
Level 7 more likely
fact is most of the rapids can catch up to her
no, that 2 charge is why she is so busted
you have no idea what you’re saying if you think that’s why she’s so busted
Her ability to run away is not why she is so busted (beyond her exploit)
If you struggle even without exploit her having 2 charges you'll love the rapid mights 
her gamma launching her into the air is not the thing 1 shotting you
Or prime monoma and strike kendo mobility
she barely uses it to run away. she uses the gamma in melee combos and then shoot her alpha from above
That’s the ground gamma for melee combos
But yeah every rapid bar twice can catch up to her so I don’t really care too much
Thought you hated the movement now you hate it's an attack....?
lvl 7 sounds like a good point too
i hate everything about her. but mostly the movement
Everyone (uraraka compress hawks) is doin the lvl 7 thing so thats the likely route
if it gets too overbearing they can nerf it later but frankly her overwhelming damage is the big problem and the thing killing you
that i can agree with too. maybe they'll make it like assault deku, when she hits a snipe (special action), its uses all her alpha charges
Only thing people should want is the exploit gone and special action damage down. Then when people mellow out and there big balance ideas arent just gut the character we can talk the rest of the kit....preferably after we watch the show so people stop saying she has too much mobility for a sniper 
Eeeeeh i dont even like deku having that tbh, would buff him since he's not the menace of sniper season anymore
but that would make him fair, and he has to crouch to snipe too (which i would've liked on nagant too)
I guess? That snipe damage nowadays though is like nothin compared to when it was fair he had to use everything to do bs damage
Pc players probably do fine though with it
i can't wait to see what kinda nerfs she gets. i hope its alot
This ^
my issue with that is that even if we say exploit and special action weren't a thing at all, like she only has air jump for special action and no snipe shot whatsoever. She's still an obvious powercreep over yellow deku even then. her alpha does 2-3 more damage at every level, some of which IGNORES SHIELD. gamma is also blatantly better than blackwip in almost every way, yes black whip can grab but that's the only thing it has going for it in comparison. beta is maybe the one thing you could maybe argue deku has the better one, but nagants mobility is already more than covered by her gamma alone, as well as her extra air jump that she has that deku just like, y'know ... DOESN'T, so at that point having two damage AoEs is actually pretty solid too.
Even if we nerf her special action body and headshot damage to 0 each, she'd still power creeps the livin sh** outta deku, so I feel like saying "just remove exploit and nerf snipe shot damage" is likely expecting next season's releases to be even more op than this and wanting the new character to stay viable for at least another season, which I can understand. But if hero designs just get more and more egregious going forward, I'm not sure that's a game I wanna play. So I hope they can nerf characters back to acceptable standards or I might wanna consider switching to something else. To each their own though. I'm hoping for lots of nerfs for new season patch personally but if other people enjoy/can live with a high power environment, more so one where only few characters hold such power, then that's fine and it could just mean that it's time for me to move on, though I'd really rather not, cause y'know, the basic game mechanics are really fun.
Sorry if this came across as overly rambly. I just really don't think that anything close to current nagant or armored might should exist, without buffing all other characters with a few exceptions by like idk 10 damage on all their moves, and even then I'd much rather see gods fall than peasants rise
oops meant to reply but didn't make it past the bad word filter the first time lol, now censored correctly >.<
also will say I'm real tired but I don't think my opinion would be much different if I was more awake
I think there are three things I want to say in regards to this:
- Yellow Deku is not the end all be all of character standards, if you meant that, bro could do with a buff to his gamma and maybe a little to his alpha if anything. But he can grab people with his black whip, has a super armoured beta and his carry SA and also the assault passive buff.
- Nagant is a Strike, so naturally she should do more damage than the assault character anyway.
- Over nerfing is a thing, when I say nerf so and so I don’t go “nerf everything that’s bad and/or might be bad” because then you just took it too far and killed them like they did to Hawks and Monoma. It’s better to address the immediate complaints in a reasonable way not so heavy handed nerfs and then take it from there.
I mean i say those two specifically because whenever someone here goes "gut nagant" it's about the special action or the exploit so those are more so the priority before we look at the rest of the kit. Under normal dev circumstances: more optimal condition to judge what needs to be toned down and how much from there (btw i know we're talkin nagant now because the character channel, but we still have iron might and tech shigaraki and rapid deku who have not been touched yet, then we have overbuffed shoto and rapid might who are only a lot of BS).
I say optimal because characters like dabi shoulda been buffed ages ago while assault endeavor should have seen that nerf way sooner or present mic shoulda seen a nerf, but the balance team moves slow as heck while making weird ball decisions...
TL;DR they need a season of nerf these wack metas and top tiers while buffing the older/lower tier characters (not toga) so the game can feel less like a chaotic meta slop fest, but gutting isnt the answer either as we seen with twice or hawks or monoma escaping that fate
I do see that deku is on the weak side and could use a buff, I honestly wouldn't feel bad about that (obv), that said I was comparing to no snipe shot nagant, in a way even no air walk nagant, so I'd personally argue those two extra factors would still outway the things unaccounted for. Part of that is cause I don't wanna propose 80 damage bodyshot and 120 damage headshot, I'd rather the nerf be distributed throughout her kit to a point where her gimmick still somewhat works. I don't think she'd get neutered by dropping 2-5 alpha damage and 20 damage on ground gamma as well, that's probably what I would personally want, maybe a slight special action cooldown increase too outside of what was mentioned. But I suppose I could be wrong on that, I'll also say that I'd be even willing to buff her air gamma damage if other parts of her kit get nerfed, I find it weird that it does so little damage compared to the ground variant, though that might just be the rapigo main in me talking
can agree with that
one season fixing balance, one season fixing toga bugs 🤝
(I also just remembered when I said she does 2-3 more alpha damage than deku that's without her own strike passive applied 😭)
Try moving backwards instead of to the side after the air melee
I found that moving backwards makes the Special Action more consistent
no she needs movement in any case she's not a regular sniper she's a person who jumps around on air
maybe they'll give her 2nd gamma at lvl 9 at the absolute worst
she has enough close range options. she doesn't even need movement to be busted, yet she still gets movement cause she is Bykings little money maker
Nothing wrong with her movement besides the exploit, if anyone disagrees then you're saying strike Bakugo and Amajiki shouldn't have their special actions
this is what we call rage bait
Literally everyone released lately has movement while still doing dummy damage. Not to beat a dead horse but iron might
Literally
Nagants movement should be the last thing people are complaining about unless it's the exploit
maybe if strike bakugos special action did damage and had less cd and double the movement
maybe if I brought up Nagants gamma doing damage and not just the movement aspect
maybe if strike bakugos special action had less cd and double the movement
Nagant apologist lol
Any decent Beamer player knows she’s straight cheese in every way but the ones without integrity main her
Yeah this is a real integrity filled game..... 
Real question is when we gettin time skip nagant and she has an emote that is just her drawing art
lady nagant was a mistake of a character to add to this game
Sooooo.....like a month or two? Was lookin more for like an estimate 
not sure if the 1st one is clip worthy but eh whatever
I try but these people just make me go back to nagant so they can feel an ounce of the BS they feed me on a daily 
Why did she keep hitting buttons 
Real question is why would she stand there holding SA for so long
yep
Anyone know any good nagant combos ?
https://youtu.be/4mY1e4R6lug?si=ywMBZobxyYOVMS9u it will show you combos that's were i learned it from
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Thanks dude !
How bro was looking at his screen after that combo:
People always gotta abuse the heck out of exploits
cant enjoy the game cus of these
brodie didnt even win the game, they jus wasted some more minutes up there
That's the most annoying thing, all it does is waste time
There's no advantage to it, it's just spinning in a circle waiting for someone to shoot you down
You can shoot up there if you’re on pc
Yeah true but I play on console so this is all I see lmao
yw
Nagant herself ig
if nagant user abuse bug then use kendo to launch aizawa
Real
Rapid hawks can make it up there by picking up a teammate then he can harass with beta but on the ground no besides other nagant and maybe young afo beta
Armored might probably
Monoma, tech denki, rapid all might, armored all might
Bruh Nagant is so absurd I just Gamma upwards, shoot up some school kids like I'm in America and get Downs it's ridiculous 
I hope not with the beta exploit 
Nah she gets ridiculous air time without it
So why no one told me we got a new Aizawa up date
Nerf this fraud
Why does that line say "fire, run" 
The deku getting downed voice line. Always thought it was weird
Rs
Nagant players.... How do i fight you 😭
Depends, rapids can pressure her better, keep her from getting to hit the special action or to gamma away then you can control the fight easier. As kendo i kinda just shield them until they drop down/try to approach with something then one clap and i can control the rest of it
If shes exploiting pfft idunno.....pick tech denki 
Pray for the nerf and exploit fix 
I will also pray! 🙏
Considering... My tornado doesnt deflect her beta anymore? (Unsure it was blocking her beta before but now its not)
Latency or otherwise shenanigans
Really? Half the time it does half the time it doesnt?
Unless its like Assautlt endeavor? where i can tornado once the move has being launched
her exploit bug i hope they fix it
just remind you
arguing why nagants shouldn't be nerf
Well thats a strange hill to die on but sure? 
I noticed a lot of bad players can’t use nagant very well so they think she doesn’t need nerds
Autocorrect
You read it right
I have a feeling you might be biased, but I can't really figure out why I think that
yeah
BAHAHAHAHA
You should dodge.
Really curious what the rest of her English lines sound like
Exactly what should be nerfed
it killed the downed body
figured itd show up as a red number guess not
Some of her lines stay English in her teaser trailer
But iirc it’s only like 2
Literally
Had to switch to Mt Lady cuz I'm tired of the sub lines
Js nerf that stupid m1 loop and nagant won't be an issue
I finally got nagant after 1120 tickets
Got her from dabi birthday tickets lets goooo
Whats her best tuning ?
And level up order?
G4 a9 you can do whatever you want past this
I do b4 then g9 b9
Qfr and willpower works nicely
Ty<3
From my experience it always goes through and staggers
Damm she is strong asf
Coming from a yellow deku main, she is definitely better than him
Tho her alpha has some travel time so i have to get my aim used to that
But i dont even need to use her alpha, her special action does everything for me xD
Js saying I was hit with it twice yesterday and it sold my match
poor guy
She's fun
Most of my mains get gutted so it's fun having an OP option
2 days left and she will be nerfed dont worry
Does he know?
Don’t know byking do you
Depends how you play her
nah not really
they kinda just beta and cant do anything else
air melee snipe shot you dont even need to aim lol
terrible person won't even get close enough to do it
well you said terrible player
most nagants dont know that
or even go for that
I run the default with Revenge support + Acceleration but a lot of people do the Willpower + Acceleration one (I think it's the blue outfit)
I didn't the 10 ko with her yet although I am at 10k points ace
I don't use the melee sniper combo tho I just use her normally
Use it while it lasts (jk it won't get nerfed anytime soon)
Nah I might try to learn it just to try it before the season ends
You have to aim down after the melee right?
I find it more consistent to back up after the air melee while you're scoping in
You can also do air melee -> melee 1 -> melee 2 -> scoped shot if you're fast enough
These are some examples
But I think that gives them time to avoid it or nah?
Yeahhh
Not if you're fast enough
U have to be quick
Like as soon as your aim you should know where you wanna shoot
I tried doing it casually with the quick scope and it didn't hit
Yeah I might hop into training tomorrow and practice it
Yeah you def have to lab it for a bit to get the timing and aiming down
W
I tried quick scoping it depending on the small distance but ig it doesn't work
You could sub out strike Bakugo for Strike Deku for extra GP damage to stack with endeavors
You have to aim to some extent
Next time you try it save clips
Yeah I've hit the super quick ones that don't even seem like you're aiming before but it's hard
Probably easier on pc
unfortuantely i dont have strike deku
fr
and the game never gives me his data... since tuning was added i'd only managed to get kota finder once
Did they fix the inconsistentcy with his tuning though?
currently have 22 red deku data
I remember it not working sometimes
Which one is rapid bakugo for? Y attack power?
with kota finder?
Dang
ya
Ah
triple stacked gamma attack and alpha attack
No his gp extra damage
i wouldnt know cause i've never used it xD
Nice, since you have that I'd recommend doing air melee/melee loops into grounded gamma too
It wasn't working perfectly since release
Idk if they fixed it like last season or smth
I'd hope so
noted
👍
Yeah this combo is real nice for when you don't have her Special Action
Frfr
I used the gamma cuz I didn't think I'd hit the SA in that situation
Ayla has a good builds for strike deku
is it worth doing the willpower - quirk factor release combo on hospital gown (dangerous) or is there a better combo?
I personally use Strike Bakugo's Special Tuning on that set, getting PU from casual downs is clutch in the right moment
Quirk factor is basically BiS
red slot could be filled with a large variety of skiils
Jiro summoning ritual
Ngl ,standing on high ground and doing nothing other than using special action from afar is fun
That was how i imagined playing her before she dropped
god I just a pc notebook 30 nagant on my team who got 0 kos while never dying and spending 50% of her time at the skybox
like how can one be content with being so terrible
do you just turn your brain off
Preach
birdwatching bird pov type shee
Ughhh she's so perfect
i know
Everyone knows it even i who played her once knows it☠️
Wouldn't say everyone, every single one I've played with didn't use it once
Every i met uses it
Guess the knowledge needs to spread then
Nothing more scary than seeing an enemy nagant trying to air melee you
And also seeing a tech shigi trying to get close and do the alpha stun exploit
yep
Are we still calling that an exploit
like sorry I just completely disagree lol
based on the fact theres two different knockdown values for his startup and actual charged attack
or actually I need to double check that but the fact it does damage separate from the main blast is proof enough too
Yeah the alpha stun lock isnt really an exploit just an unfortunate oversight on his kit
the only real exploit is that it doesnt use alpha ammo
It's fine though, nagant counter him anyway 
Anyone got tips for lady nagant
gamma beta then special action
air melee special action if you have tunning build for her nursery outfit from s8
its season 7 actually
oh yeah forgot
The haters will say it took no skill
yep true that
I like doing Special Action so fast you don't even see the scope
Will never understand people not paying attention while healing
Well now that a trailer is out, can i use nagant while everyone hates tsukuyomi instead? 
Depends on if Tokoyami is more broken than her
He looks like he got a buncha armor, some stun lock button, and he can fly to a degree. All the making ls to annoy the general public 
I'm waiting to see what he can do when the previews drop
I'm especially interested in Black Ankh
Remember Bois, whenever you see a nejire from now, give her a good headshot 
Imagine her with tech shigi who has the hp and defence increase tunings damm
yep
agreed
let's kill all of them
target them
The air melee into special action got fixed
The special action will have a delay before getting into scope mode after using air melee
And they are gonna fix her Air movement in a later season, does that mean the gamma into beta flight bug wont be fixed?
Iron might getting nerfed, i prayed for times like this
EWWWW they're nerfing air melee into SA
Do they not realize we can just add a melee 1 before the SA lol
exactly lol
it does more damage too
And it's easier to set the aim up
Sounds like the gamma beta exploit won't be touched tho
they're removing it at some point
Yea, not as fast as I thought
Cmon man i just wanna play the character in peace like i never was able to do with yellochako 😔
I remember telling people alpha damage needed nerf, but it was slow and dodgeable and still got called a defender or excuser as if i didnt agree the damage was a little too high for projectile 🫠
Now shes practically nowhere 😔
Now i have to be evil and hit special actions and ground gammas that people overlook because they expect me to fly to the ceiling with it instead 
It has to get patched by nejire qss qt the very least. If not by third char/qss
Yea
More like they didnt patch it yet but yes it's still there for now
they're gonna remove it
sometime in s15
but not off launch
Cuz i see it as more broken than anything else
I see iron might damage as more broken but hey
Ay no one likes him
well apparently people do that he's in every game 
so today is the last day we can do the melee SA combo
Ima bigger fan of the Beta into Special combo anyhow 
Running a melee tuning on a sniper character doesn't feel right to me
Yipee 
Probably still true if you run trance blow
I like how they didnt touch anyones damage, just removed some techs and so
They will eventually
Look at Tamaki and Shinso
I’d give it 3 seasons max
estimated 1-2
at least we can still be having fun for the next season
we?
Nagant would still be fun even if she got damage nerfs across the board
But nah she’ll have all of this season to gamma beta exploit too
he seems......odd but it was just the trailer so i can't make judgements yet. seems like he'll just be doing what strike kirishima does of pushing through under shield/armor
along with keeping her 350 headshot
thats something I would definetly change
Have you watched his ability clips?
fine by me since it will be harder now
That’s something that’s GOING to change
But it’s taking them a season to do it
the clips already dropped? if so i didn't
Beta into SA still works and quick scoping still works
And like I said trance blow will probably confirm it too
I mean thats a change I was hoping for
I just like they didnt weaken anyone
I literally killed a strike Shoto 15 seconds after game start yesterday with AAM
Momoma is fine now
Maybe he can get 10% damage back
Like I said he can maybe get 10% damage back but he has cooldown resetting and got his 300hp back
which is fine except it removes hie gimmick
it doesn’t really remove it
He can still do an AFO gamma into kurogiri beta that puts people into storm
Or double up with a tech shiggy and his alpha
yeah but thats just trolling
that’s not trolling dude
I use sending people into storm in ranked with kurogiri
I literally kill people with that
sending ppl to storm isnt how a character should be played
that’s an example
of being creative
also who are you to decide that?
that’s literally how he’s meant to be played
combining quirks
I dont think they made monoma to send characters to storm
.
so give me another example i can discuss
exactly
but when his copied quirks do no damage that makes it kinda useless
it’s no damage it’s manageable
i like a character which can utilize everything it has
Yeah it’s weak and he takes a lot of card investment but Jesus
don’t mention him and twice in the same sentence
he’s a low a tier
He doesn’t do no damage
what I am trying to say is we dont need to gut a character bc its op
Monoma wasn’t gutted
he fell off for sure but now especially he’s fine
with his hp back
instead we should focus only on the essentail stuff so they can be both fun and rewarding to play
I think what’s fun for you is not fun for other people
You may have liked putting someone into an assault endeavour beta and them spamming pre nerf compress alphas at them
but for the person who just lost 500+ hp in 3 seconds flat
it was not enjoyable
I am not saying he didnt need nerfs
he needed it but they overdid it
Like I say I agree that he can have 10% damage back
But I never considered him gutted, especially like twice
okay both of them got overnerfed but not the same extent
I dont see your objection
and rapid hawks is an another examplee
he was a monster for 2 seasons but he hit rock bottom afterwards
He deserved that
But recent nerfs like Tamaki, Shinso and kurogiri’s have been less harsh
he deserved nerfs yes but not rock bottom
I have seen nobody calling them op
😭 what
go back and check tier list videos
Tamaki and Kurogiri will be S tier in most
whats op about kurogiri cmon
He had a 400 damage plus combo…?
he has a insta tp for downed teammates that doesn’t have a range limit
yeah but he burned all his kit and left with cooldown
you still have another gamma beta left and that is enough to kill the person unless they have 400hp
also quirk factor release says hello
tamaki was and still strong but not op
he was released before it
he was op
okay but I didnt see a kurogiri bomb off 20 kils in ranked
my point is neither of them was op
Anyway the fact you didn’t reply to my 2nd gamma beta and map wide Rez tp line is gonna have me assume you agree with me then
if someone had it a little it would be shinso
Bombing a 15-20k is not a requirement for op what lmao
bro I agree its strong but it isnt op
nejire qss could heal for 500hp per second and give a new super shield that blocks all projectiles
and she wouldn’t be op because she ain’t dropping a 20k in unranked against noobs
?
thats not as near as kurogiri
kurogiri has a no range limit tp when you go down that he only needs to press a button to activate
unless you’re in final circle it’s a get out of jail free card for dying
that alone makes him a tier
and then his mobility
You can cross the map with 2 betas
thats good for him but not op
his sa isn’t op?
you can still catch up with multiple characters
okay bro idk what to tell you then
no one is catching up to kurogiri man
He literally portals
Who would have saw it coming!!!
nah you have time to go through his portals before he sets another one
even if you didnt you can still catch up if you know his direction
No dude
set one long beta
instantly tap beta again once you’re through
there’s no time
and you still have 1 beta left and 3 gamma betas
nagants gamma cover about the same distance as his portals man
Yeah unless your on kuros ahh you aren't catching him
It just doesn't?
a well positoned one does
So what in air miles above
What kurogiri gets for free?
That means your situationally getting the same distance
Which is further providing why he has better mobility
Only person id say who could keep up with kuro is strike hawks
Because he can cross the map in seconds
Nagant gamma absolutely does not cover same distance as a kurogiri beta
Even then thats a if
what about armored might
that is an insane statement
Nope
he’s not catching a kurogiri either
I take this back because hawks has poor directional control using his movement
looks like you both have a different kurogiri in your game
cause the kurogiri ik isnt that hard to catch up to
bro this ain’t even about skill
no one gets across the map faster than kurogiri
that’s a fact
so someone else using kurogiri’s quirk
ofa deku
who woulda guessed it
nope
bro you’re trolling
reseting his own betas
ofa Deku is not even the 5th fastest rapid
wtf are you talking about him beating kurogiri 😭
I’m not even sure bro reaches the other side of the map doing that let alone catch up to a kuro
and how you telling me armored might with 2 dashes and 3 betas cant catch up
armoured might can cross the map doing that stuff yeah
but kurogiri can just keep going
and also get to the place 10x faster
looks like I cant convince you but kuro doesnt represent a threat to me at least
no hard feelings
Man what are you arguing about now
That’s a completely different argument
we started this convo by you saying he is op
We’re talking about travel speed
also yeah he’s not s tier anymore cause he got nerfed
then we moves from his SA to his movement
and I said kuro wasnt op in the first place
even if he doesnt come close to characters who caused community rage
Just because he wasn’t prime monoma or hawks tier doesn’t make him not op
rapid hawks
twice
tech shigi
nagant
armored might
monoma
kuro doesnt come close to those in terms of asking to be nerfed
even red deku at some point
you’re not reading what I’m saying
because I could just copy and paste what I said right above your comment to reply to it
also never put twice and red Deku with any of those characters in the future please
you mean this?
Yup
wdym
They’re not on the same tier at their primes
well instead of arguing kuro is op or not I said even if he is he didnt cause community rage
he wasnt (broken) if you know what i mean
He had the beta combo doing BS damage but he still required skill to play
I think that any character that required skill cant be compared to the actual OP characters
Not the most popular pick though, when he is he's just there for special action
what I am trying to say is these characters made the community ask for heavy nerfs
I mean a character can still be OP and require skill, it just means they arent beginner friendly. Not a famous example but blazblue had a character named izanami who is haaaaated for how good they are but thats not a beginner friendly character by any means
unlike kuro
yes but I am fine with any character that requires skill to some extent
you can be wrecked by a red deku hitting all his alphas but cant call the character op the player is just good
Ehhh dunno bout that example since strike deku is pretty easy
also I dk any of the names you have mentioned
if you think that there are many examples of characters that can destroy lobbies in the right hands
Yeah thats why i said that wasnt a popular example its just the one i have on hand and idunno what anyone plays outside of this
Any nerfs yet
You can do an m1 after the air melee
They nerfed nothing lol
That works into headshot too
But its really just where people tend to be split. Obviously anyone hates a character just erasing your health, but its like if both roads lead to the same (just to put a number on it) 500 damage. One is air melee > special action and the other is like 5 other steps involved but it just means people have to take more time to learn to do it. Some are fine since one takes more effort but like me i think both are still bs just one BS takes more effort
Kurogiri 400 dmg combo was not hard at all
it was using beta 3 times on someone and then ending it with a gamma beta
if you were referring to that
You can still do it even after the nerf
From their wording you just have to throw a melee 1 after the air melee then you can still SA
Gotta wait to try it tho
Maybe they worded it bad
ig them saying they put a delay on the sa that just removes quick scoping
just speculating tho
If we can still quickscope after melee 1 that will be hilarious
Fr
Doesn’t work
Or at least I don’t think it does
m1 you should be able to roll out of before the sa but I’m not entirely sure actually
cause air melee doesn’t put you in the air either
I've done it before but had accel active
what did i just read
I know it’s possible but I’m not sure if you need accel
could I have some tuning recommandation for her hospital skin
dangerous with willpower quirk factor release
is her best in slot
hum do you have any screenshot cuz my game is in french and picture would help me
also I cant put quick factor release cuz I dont have enough afo piece
Do you guys think we will have a problem with tokoy?
The only annoying thing i see from a nagant perspective is his shield, other than that he seems normal to play against
Do you have tech Mirio data
yeah
Alr one sec
okay thanks
I switch between revenge support and Divine protection mostly
thank you!
Ofc!
Not too troublesome, just gotta focus on breaking that shield
Cool shield..... beta
If he could do anything besides run up melee or heal i'd be more worried.....wait what if he can unlock boxes and get kota while it's up 
Early game , me and my team against another team
I downed one of their team
And they downed one of mine
I went to save mine , and found the other team compress executing him, did a in the air special action headshot and he immediately died
5 mins later that compress is back but this time he has infinte plus ultra and unlimited alpha and gamma
Got cooked by him
Man felt mad about what i did and decided to turn on his cheats xD
👀
Some other nagant clips I have :^
You can even do a melee 2 before it
😭
Yeah you can do air melee -> melee 1 -> melee 2 -> scoped shot if you’re fast enough
Interesting, I've always just done it after melee 1
Love doin that
It takes some practice because you do have to be fast but it is more damage if you can land it
I seee
Quirk factor release is really nasty for anyone to use. Better for offensive or guard breaker. Even it helps on SA
this nerf is like the deku situation
they simply made it harder to do things
they didn't necessarily remove the problem
You can probably still grant things with Accel and just repeat the process, rapid deku still has his loops, its just tight, nagants Air Melee having a delay is simply just makes people choose more combo varieties to lead into SA again
it fixes it for most people
most people won't bother
like deku's loop there's like maybe 4 people that do it
tbh some people just drop the character when they see a slight nerf until they see the character doing well still
this guy actually gets heated when u call out nagant being broken
Tbf, theres people who literally come to this specific char channel just to complain and anyone who speaks against is just defending her being broken even though they agree on nerfs and make valid points 


The flight exploit got fixed nice
Can i play nagant now without people all in my ear? 
The air melee into SA still works tho xD
Wait actually after playing a couple of times
I think they kinda tried to fix it but still failed
When i try to quick scope my shot misses and goes to another direction
I think they made it so nagant arm must be facing the target which prevents quick scoping
Tho not sure
ye
its like blanking
just saw it happen earlier it just isn't inf anymore
I just sniped someone doing it
Wish i could have clipped it but potato laptop
Yes this even happens with the normal melee
🙁
It didnt
The SA was changed to shoot where your laser pointer is at, the laser pointer does not come out until about a second now, so all your quickscopes will go to the center of the map (also known as 0,0)
But if you hold it long enough for the laser then shoot, your shot will go to where you laser pointer is at
This means your quickscope/noscope will go there
Not where youre facing
She can still air melee into SA you just have to hardscope it a bit now
But obviously it will be more difficult against high ping bc they will be behind you sometimes after air melee
How do you play nagant on console?
Let's goooo
Hmmm that's not too bad
The byking combo still there
Beta into SA never needed a quickscope
Byking is the one that showed off that combo in her preview LOL
Yup, byking can never touch the byking combo
💯
I think this change to the quick scope is fine
As much as i loved twirling 2-3 times into quickscope
💔
It doesnt work for me for some reason
Same 😔
W, we dont want no more exploit users if u cant do it
It is
You have to wait for the laser to show up for it to be accurate now
Scroll up to my video
Did they fix her English voicelines
ah you again
dw don't worry nagants main here i am
look i know but sometimes you gotta move on she is here she is part of the game move on everyone ask for nagant to be inculded if you don't like nagant then go play minecraft or other games
to take ease off you're head
Ok then
that's what i do a lot since they added so buff characters that needed to nerf but when i comes to that i actually quit the game because wasted rolls i play other games instead to ease my head
Yo whomever this nagant is ur bad and nothing without ur team u sweaty basement dweller
Legit spawn killed tf outta me b4 the timer even went off
when i used to have friends now they hated nagant 2 people bro i think one i can see he hate nagant
😭
They'll get over it eventually
Yeahhhh you can definitely still air melee into SA even without accel

thanks twin
Why must they be so lazy and not fix her English voicelines
so the first match i was going after her first when i went to get some loot at this first match he kill me then when i was killed by him he t-bag me like spam me emote who ever this is you t-bag me you are sweaty greasy ah hair troll stub you're toe idiot i hope one thing for sure one of this will happen to you
Are you.....in jp server...?
yeah why
bruh
Common occurrence ngl
he ain't a japanese his basically usa person?
ocurrence?
It happens a lot
Is it true they fixed nagant quick scope ?
U have to wait for the laser to show which is still a quickscope
They should give that SA a widowmaker charge
Fake japan? Would someone really go on the internet and lie? 
I still think this option would suck consideringthis game is in eternal dive meta with all the mobility.
yes his fake ichigo is not common on most japanese people username that probably is a usa guy move into japan i guess blud is scared getting trash talk by usa people on his team
why does nagant alpha not count as a quirk if she is aiming with SA?
Because Aizawa has never been able to disable SA’s?
Regardless of if the SA is a quirk or not
bit she also uses her alpha after that?
so she can still use her alpha even if erased?
i thought her only weakness was aizawa but i guess even that was too much
Her SA doesn't regard/use Alphas
What the guy above said
Her SA is not just the scope and air walk
it also counts the bullet
so she doesn't have to click her alpha button? how does she shoot then?
just double SA?
its more fair playing against shadow hackers then nagant player, even if they don't use the bug
Aizawa specifically only being able to disable quirk skills but not Specials has always screwed him I feel

I mean she clicks alpha but it isnt using alpha ammo, if he completely shut down all but melee he'd be way more hated....
imagine he had that during the golden sisterly age? Oh i'd sell the pitchforks myself
A lot specials are bad anyways vs aizawa
ye but there are ones that specifically counter it, like a mobility Special to get out of range, an offensive Special to not be helpless, etc
this is what makes him balanced though I ain't saying he's bad for it lol
Shinso, mt lady, tamaki, nagant, another aizawa, yafo, togas, nagant
I guess shoto lol
But like the rest of the cast just moves or cant move much
also Endeavor tbf
good chunk of characters can make use of their Specials to get away or deal with it
I meant ones that can attack him out of erasure with special
oh ye fair
Nejire, aam, endy, tamaki, tokoyami etc can use theirs to run away
Toga is devious tho bc transforming/detransform gives you a window to use your quirks vs him
Or get alpha'd since it makes her sit still for a sec
Detransforming doesnt
bakugo has special air melee, though you definitely wanna dash to one of his sides then snap back onto him, if he reads it with gamma it's very favorable for him though
bad ninry stop leaking the secret toga tech
I have kept this quiet so long!
Not with me mwehehehehe
The bullet is still her Special Action even though you shoot by pressing the alpha input
Her Special Action and alpha are two different things
You are not shooting your alpha with the scope you are shooting a different projectile entirely with the scope
Did i miss the strengthen part? 
Barely need to aim for the head anymore
Shot someone's stomach earlier and it counted as a headshot
If only that downed him 
eh
tracers can be inaccurate
normally that wouldnt happen tho
It depends on the barrel more than ur sight
I am trying to get used to the new SA change
Yo does nagant special action go through wall ?
Cuz I just killed afo behind a wall
yeah you mean beta
Special action
I know special action is crazy strong but it doesnt hit through walls 
I will send clip later gonna ping u guys
He's right
yeah
yo
so the rumors has been told once person healing in the walls that's her special does a lot damage through wall
Thaaaaat shouldnt be happening thats odd
Thanks
Bring back my quickscope man I never used the melee special action combo I was happy that it got nerfed but they nerfed my quickscope too reduce the dmg don't ruin it for me byking I pulled nagant for quickscope dopamine
Grounded gamma dopamine is better 
I use the gamma in melee combos
so nagant came out the patch with an overall buff
Is lady nagant special action gonna get fixed or is it gonna be this way all season?
this
I just wanna play nagantin peace but noooooooooo now imma have people tossing wallhacks on my name
Nagant needs another nerf
The cd on that Gamma and the movement she has is faster than a rapid and barely any downtime. She practically never hits the ground...
lemme live mah life
anyone else not hitting quick scope consistently?
Gotta wait for the laser to register now
he's baaaack...
i had a REALLY rough patch with nagant. like i quit her. but now i suddenly have good aim on console. even if i miss a lot
Brainded character
Kind of a reach, but is there any way to make it so that the only sens you change is the one where you zoom in with your special?
yep
thanks
We can still quick scope
no
U can still get it off fairly quickly
U can with tuning
This ain’t fair 😭
Seems fair to me
Looks like you had enough time to roll there maybe?
but yeah everyone and their mother knows her sa needs a dmg decrease
At this point it's just idunno what else there is to say 
This game aint fair
Said it
You are playing on switch you are already at a disadvantage by default
True 😭
what outfit and tuning should i get on nagant
buh
can you not quick scope anymore?
Laser needs to show up before you can shoot properly
Otherwise it will go wherever it wants
Accuracy isn’t increased anymore 💔
oh this explains it all
wdym
just a joke about her scope voiceline
I found a way to still do it
Okay if you abuse flying bug youa re dog sht
I’m going to also attach this to nagants building melee builds with embrittlement and trance blow
imagine needing the auto lock on air melee to play the game for you for you to actually have a chance at hitting your shots
So you want me to just alpha? 
Melee would be fine if the special action wasnt crazy strong
Atp we may as well use what's there lol, gotta blame the devs not the players
At least it's not the gamma bug
Ye
Decrease dmg but give me back my quickscope please
I want my quickscope back
Jusus I had to deal with 2 tech shiggy at the last circle holy h3ll it took me so long to kill them jesus if I had my quickscope I would've deleted them
Why do we have raid boss in this game Jesus
Welp if Iam not getting my quickscope back I guess I have to adapt abuse beta special action more lol
Lmao I feel like nagant is gonna get same treatment as rapid hawks if people keep complaining
Bro i just wanna play the character, stop finding stuff
Lmao
I stopped using her for now
I hate tech shiggy man
He is pain in the @ss
Btw please tell that lady nagant special action is bugged now and that is not the fix they made to counter the melee special action combo?
Cuz Iam gonna k!ll myself if that's the case
No more quickscope=depression
It should happen.
Blue hawks didnt deserve it Nagant does
The first nerf was enough 😭
True I mean they nerfed him to much
But he needed nerf
People complained to much about him
I guess he gave them ptsd
Dw i did too
If nagant deserves it for the special action hawks deserved it for having a beta be a death sentence 
I want you to actually need skill to use your sa
instead of confirming it with air melee
I can forgive the beta sa confirm because it’s more easily dodgeable
a Nagant coming from the sky and air meleeing you into sa death isn’t
You have it
You just can’t scope in for 0.3 seconds and shoot anymore
now you have to wait a second
it’s not that bad
No one else needs skills for theirs, why should i 🙂↕️
I say let chaos run through the streets as long as it kills iron might
Really?
Thank you for your service
Ofc ofc
Fk that shiggy
He had the revenge tunings but they couldn't keep up
Lmao nice
0.3s is too long
because no one else's sa does 350 damage
??
😭
They'd be cooler if they did 
You can remove that in settings
Ayo wtf
Go to settings and go to display
Scroll down a bit where it says camera interaction
Found it it's not in display it's in gameplay
Camera movement
Don't shoot instantly after pressing SA you have to wait like 0.2 seconds for the laser to register
ok ty
Ohhh should i hold special too
Nah just a tap is fine
Canon All Might fighting Tech Shiggy
oh ok
Reaaal
Yeah I get it mixed up, I’m saying this while thinking through it in my head, my fault
It's cool
Who's gonna rep Lady Nagant in that Eu tourney 😃
Everyone lol
If they’re playing to win anyway
Lmaooo
Sniper Nerfs when
💀
"nagant hitting air melee into special action is so unfair"
so aizawa?
The crazy thing is I really don't know who that was I was on a killing spree, didn't kill an Aizawa tho
Probably killed his teammate that had revive cards
Nagant hate is forced and everyone pretends iron might stopped existing
Also hate the scope change because there so many times i would hit someone
Ain no way we giving tips on how to play a broken character.
AiNt No WaY wE gIvInG tI- shhhhhhhhhhhush ya face as long as the others demons exist then this can too 
Bet iron might got someone right now giving tips
Do you actually believe this or are you rage baiting
Like what
??
So real it was great for wakeup punishing
😭❤️
Before you yell at me as if im saying shes balanced or somethin which i never agree with, some hate is pretty forced while others that get played get no mentionings or excused simply by nagant existing
I wish they did the special action damage instead of the quick scoping though, i seriously wanna get rid of flying iron mights without having to spend that second waiting as they do whatever 
Wait so you only need to do the zoom in/out twice then you can do QS for the rest of the match?
I was wondering this too
Yes, they can cap the headshot damage at like 250/275 and have it not scale with tuning, and then remove the flying bug
