#Lady Nagant

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terse quarry
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Keeps beta stocks for oki and i get buffs from the melee hit

lyric flint
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W

barren jungle
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Mt Lady mains that remain are lucky af that YAFO isn’t that popular

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otherwise their 1 good thing that got buffed disappears

terse quarry
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Really clan name nagants using the beta bug and fishing for melee into special action, so lame Shiozaki

native pike
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when are they gonna nerf this nagant? more movement then every rapid in the game. i hate meta slaves

terse quarry
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Its not even that her base kit has it

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It'd be way easier without the go to space button

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But yeah every single one i run into tonight is doing it now....

crimson shard
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Guys

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I never do the meele into special

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Bc i mostly miss it anyway

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What am i doing wrong? Bc i always tend so slide to side after air meele

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And when i special i miss

terse quarry
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Probably move to the side too much and out of the way

terse quarry
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Aiight every single nagant i lose to is just her sitting in the air.....

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What is happening tonight that they just choose to be spineless

barren jungle
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But she still has really good movement

native pike
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people agree with me

barren jungle
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Clearly not everyone agrees what that nerf should be though

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And I was disagreeing with you that she had more movement than rapids

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without the exploit

terse quarry
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But yeah it really isnt anyone saying she doesnt need a nerf, but her mobility without the bug is less than like iron mights even. Not bad movement but i prefer MidoriyaOFA movement personally

native pike
# barren jungle without the exploit

yes, without the exploit, she has more movement then some rapids... "cough" "cough" ..twice.. "cough" "cough". but with the exploit she has the most movement in the game. i think she should have 1 charge in her gamma and the recoil in her gamma should be lower. shes a sniper, not a rapid so remove that bs movement and she would still do good damages

terse quarry
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She shouldnt get one charge just because twice isnt as big a blur on the screen as other rapids or over the exploit though

native pike
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shes a sniper. in other games she should have no movement at all. but we are talking about byking. snipers should never have movement but byking will give her anyways. so atleast limit it

terse quarry
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Maybe they can move the 2 charges to like level 7 but this game really should just give everyone an option to reposition better

native pike
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sniper movement i see is running or grapple hook. which is more then enough for a sniper

terse quarry
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Again you gotta yell at the author who gave her air walk and the whole propelling herself with gunshots (dark deku ac she basically did all that mobility)

barren jungle
terse quarry
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Like you're thinking it in CoD terms and not my hero for some reason Hawks

barren jungle
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If you made her work like an actual sniper from battlefield or something she would be ahh

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This game has way too much terrain, AOE and is too fast paced for one to function properly

native pike
barren jungle
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Or even a CSGO sniper then

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It’s better she does have some kind of mobility

terse quarry
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battlefield sniping is worse, they literally are other end of the map camping and 1 shotting you

barren jungle
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the people sitting at the back on firestorm aren’t doing squat

native pike
terse quarry
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Why doesnt strike deku have 1 gamma then?

native pike
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cause his snipe used ALL his ammo

barren jungle
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Tbf Nagant gamma is way better than strike Deku’s gamma

terse quarry
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Strike doesnt

barren jungle
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But I dislike going overboard from the start

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you could probably just make her 2nd gamma charge lvl 9

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the real problem is her exploit, her sa damage and the quick scoping

terse quarry
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Level 7 more likely

barren jungle
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fact is most of the rapids can catch up to her

native pike
barren jungle
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Her ability to run away is not why she is so busted (beyond her exploit)

terse quarry
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If you struggle even without exploit her having 2 charges you'll love the rapid mights Hawks

barren jungle
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her gamma launching her into the air is not the thing 1 shotting you

terse quarry
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Or prime monoma and strike kendo mobility

native pike
barren jungle
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That’s the ground gamma for melee combos

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But yeah every rapid bar twice can catch up to her so I don’t really care too much

terse quarry
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Thought you hated the movement now you hate it's an attack....?

barren jungle
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lvl 7 sounds like a good point too

native pike
terse quarry
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Everyone (uraraka compress hawks) is doin the lvl 7 thing so thats the likely route

barren jungle
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if it gets too overbearing they can nerf it later but frankly her overwhelming damage is the big problem and the thing killing you

native pike
terse quarry
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Only thing people should want is the exploit gone and special action damage down. Then when people mellow out and there big balance ideas arent just gut the character we can talk the rest of the kit....preferably after we watch the show so people stop saying she has too much mobility for a sniper Shiozaki

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Eeeeeh i dont even like deku having that tbh, would buff him since he's not the menace of sniper season anymore

native pike
terse quarry
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I guess? That snipe damage nowadays though is like nothin compared to when it was fair he had to use everything to do bs damage

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Pc players probably do fine though with it

native pike
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i can't wait to see what kinda nerfs she gets. i hope its alot

lilac helm
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my issue with that is that even if we say exploit and special action weren't a thing at all, like she only has air jump for special action and no snipe shot whatsoever. She's still an obvious powercreep over yellow deku even then. her alpha does 2-3 more damage at every level, some of which IGNORES SHIELD. gamma is also blatantly better than blackwip in almost every way, yes black whip can grab but that's the only thing it has going for it in comparison. beta is maybe the one thing you could maybe argue deku has the better one, but nagants mobility is already more than covered by her gamma alone, as well as her extra air jump that she has that deku just like, y'know ... DOESN'T, so at that point having two damage AoEs is actually pretty solid too.
Even if we nerf her special action body and headshot damage to 0 each, she'd still power creeps the livin sh** outta deku, so I feel like saying "just remove exploit and nerf snipe shot damage" is likely expecting next season's releases to be even more op than this and wanting the new character to stay viable for at least another season, which I can understand. But if hero designs just get more and more egregious going forward, I'm not sure that's a game I wanna play. So I hope they can nerf characters back to acceptable standards or I might wanna consider switching to something else. To each their own though. I'm hoping for lots of nerfs for new season patch personally but if other people enjoy/can live with a high power environment, more so one where only few characters hold such power, then that's fine and it could just mean that it's time for me to move on, though I'd really rather not, cause y'know, the basic game mechanics are really fun.

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Sorry if this came across as overly rambly. I just really don't think that anything close to current nagant or armored might should exist, without buffing all other characters with a few exceptions by like idk 10 damage on all their moves, and even then I'd much rather see gods fall than peasants rise

lilac helm
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also will say I'm real tired but I don't think my opinion would be much different if I was more awake

barren jungle
# lilac helm my issue with that is that even if we say exploit and special action weren't a t...

I think there are three things I want to say in regards to this:

  1. Yellow Deku is not the end all be all of character standards, if you meant that, bro could do with a buff to his gamma and maybe a little to his alpha if anything. But he can grab people with his black whip, has a super armoured beta and his carry SA and also the assault passive buff.
  2. Nagant is a Strike, so naturally she should do more damage than the assault character anyway.
  3. Over nerfing is a thing, when I say nerf so and so I don’t go “nerf everything that’s bad and/or might be bad” because then you just took it too far and killed them like they did to Hawks and Monoma. It’s better to address the immediate complaints in a reasonable way not so heavy handed nerfs and then take it from there.
terse quarry
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I mean i say those two specifically because whenever someone here goes "gut nagant" it's about the special action or the exploit so those are more so the priority before we look at the rest of the kit. Under normal dev circumstances: more optimal condition to judge what needs to be toned down and how much from there (btw i know we're talkin nagant now because the character channel, but we still have iron might and tech shigaraki and rapid deku who have not been touched yet, then we have overbuffed shoto and rapid might who are only a lot of BS).
I say optimal because characters like dabi shoulda been buffed ages ago while assault endeavor should have seen that nerf way sooner or present mic shoulda seen a nerf, but the balance team moves slow as heck while making weird ball decisions...

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TL;DR they need a season of nerf these wack metas and top tiers while buffing the older/lower tier characters (not toga) so the game can feel less like a chaotic meta slop fest, but gutting isnt the answer either as we seen with twice or hawks or monoma escaping that fate

lilac helm
# barren jungle I think there are three things I want to say in regards to this: 1. Yellow Deku ...

I do see that deku is on the weak side and could use a buff, I honestly wouldn't feel bad about that (obv), that said I was comparing to no snipe shot nagant, in a way even no air walk nagant, so I'd personally argue those two extra factors would still outway the things unaccounted for. Part of that is cause I don't wanna propose 80 damage bodyshot and 120 damage headshot, I'd rather the nerf be distributed throughout her kit to a point where her gimmick still somewhat works. I don't think she'd get neutered by dropping 2-5 alpha damage and 20 damage on ground gamma as well, that's probably what I would personally want, maybe a slight special action cooldown increase too outside of what was mentioned. But I suppose I could be wrong on that, I'll also say that I'd be even willing to buff her air gamma damage if other parts of her kit get nerfed, I find it weird that it does so little damage compared to the ground variant, though that might just be the rapigo main in me talking

lilac helm
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one season fixing balance, one season fixing toga bugs 🤝

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(I also just remembered when I said she does 2-3 more alpha damage than deku that's without her own strike passive applied 😭)

tardy lion
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I found that moving backwards makes the Special Action more consistent

proven peak
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maybe they'll give her 2nd gamma at lvl 9 at the absolute worst

native pike
lyric flint
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Nothing wrong with her movement besides the exploit, if anyone disagrees then you're saying strike Bakugo and Amajiki shouldn't have their special actions

calm granite
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this is what we call rage bait

terse quarry
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Literally everyone released lately has movement while still doing dummy damage. Not to beat a dead horse but iron might

lyric flint
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Literally

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Nagants movement should be the last thing people are complaining about unless it's the exploit

split nimbus
lyric flint
split nimbus
lyric flint
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The bait was fun but now you're just repeating it

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Cya

split nimbus
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Nagant apologist lol

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Any decent Beamer player knows she’s straight cheese in every way but the ones without integrity main her

terse quarry
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Yeah this is a real integrity filled game..... Aizawa

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Real question is when we gettin time skip nagant and she has an emote that is just her drawing art

split sleet
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lady nagant was a mistake of a character to add to this game

terse quarry
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Sooooo.....like a month or two? Was lookin more for like an estimate Hawks

terse quarry
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I try but these people just make me go back to nagant so they can feel an ounce of the BS they feed me on a daily Cementoss

terse quarry
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Why did she keep hitting buttons Shiozaki

lyric flint
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Real question is why would she stand there holding SA for so long

signal depot
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yep

dim shard
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Anyone know any good nagant combos ?

signal depot
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https://youtu.be/4mY1e4R6lug?si=ywMBZobxyYOVMS9u it will show you combos that's were i learned it from

Lady Nagant is the new character added in Season 14 of My Hero Ultra Rumble. Today I’m going to be breaking down her moves and combos and showing how you can dominate lobbies with her. She has numerous strengths but it all comes down to accuracy, positioning, and wake up catching. Characters move nonstop in this game and there’s a lot of cas...

▶ Play video
dim shard
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Thanks dude !

zinc tapir
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How bro was looking at his screen after that combo:

terse quarry
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Why did everyone i hit have PlusUltra

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Lemme snipe you

pseudo night
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wth cant these dummies get a life

terse quarry
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People always gotta abuse the heck out of exploits

pseudo night
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cant enjoy the game cus of these

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brodie didnt even win the game, they jus wasted some more minutes up there

zenith orbit
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That's the most annoying thing, all it does is waste time

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There's no advantage to it, it's just spinning in a circle waiting for someone to shoot you down

proven peak
zenith orbit
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Yeah true but I play on console so this is all I see lmao

signal depot
rancid raft
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Do we even have characters that can shoot her from up there

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While being grounded

keen marsh
signal depot
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if nagant user abuse bug then use kendo to launch aizawa

signal depot
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yeah saw that video

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some users who abuse bug get in the not safe area

cyan saffron
sinful vessel
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Monoma, tech denki, rapid all might, armored all might

zenith orbit
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Bruh Nagant is so absurd I just Gamma upwards, shoot up some school kids like I'm in America and get Downs it's ridiculous LadyNagant

barren jungle
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I hope not with the beta exploit Cementoss

zenith orbit
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Nah she gets ridiculous air time without it

indigo wasp
fringe briar
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Nerf this fraud

proven peak
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still lost btw 🥀

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like my fault i'll get 30 next time all good

terse quarry
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Why does that line say "fire, run" Cementoss

terse quarry
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The deku getting downed voice line. Always thought it was weird

sterile axle
blazing jewel
regal bison
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Nagant players.... How do i fight you 😭

terse quarry
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Depends, rapids can pressure her better, keep her from getting to hit the special action or to gamma away then you can control the fight easier. As kendo i kinda just shield them until they drop down/try to approach with something then one clap and i can control the rest of it

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If shes exploiting pfft idunno.....pick tech denki Shiozaki

regal bison
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Darn

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Ill keep that in mind tho!

terse quarry
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Pray for the nerf and exploit fix PresentMic

regal bison
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I will also pray! 🙏
Considering... My tornado doesnt deflect her beta anymore? (Unsure it was blocking her beta before but now its not)

terse quarry
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Latency or otherwise shenanigans

sinful vessel
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Nagants beta goes thru tornado

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Dunno why

regal bison
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Really? Half the time it does half the time it doesnt?

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Unless its like Assautlt endeavor? where i can tornado once the move has being launched

split nimbus
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can’t wait for nagant nerfs

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guys she take so much skill press e then aim

terse quarry
signal depot
split nimbus
split nimbus
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Autocorrect

fringe briar
lilac helm
signal depot
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yeah

viral spoke
thorn thistle
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You should dodge.LadyNagant

zenith orbit
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Really curious what the rest of her English lines sound like

proven peak
buoyant tapir
split nimbus
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i did like 570 with double strike pu

proven peak
split nimbus
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figured itd show up as a red number guess not

proven peak
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here's the clip

sinful vessel
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But iirc it’s only like 2

lyric flint
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Had to switch to Mt Lady cuz I'm tired of the sub lines

fringe briar
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Js nerf that stupid m1 loop and nagant won't be an issue

stiff leaf
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I finally got nagant after 1120 tickets

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Got her from dabi birthday tickets lets goooo

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Whats her best tuning ?

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And level up order?

proven peak
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I do b4 then g9 b9

proven peak
stiff leaf
tardy lion
stiff leaf
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Coming from a yellow deku main, she is definitely better than him

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Tho her alpha has some travel time so i have to get my aim used to that

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But i dont even need to use her alpha, her special action does everything for me xD

fringe briar
proven peak
quick light
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How yall having fun playing this braindead char

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first game with her

lyric flint
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She's fun

zenith orbit
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Most of my mains get gutted so it's fun having an OP option

quick light
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Shes too easy to play its actually boring

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even terrible players get value with her

stiff leaf
sinful vessel
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Does he know?

cyan saffron
lyric flint
proven peak
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they kinda just beta and cant do anything else

quick light
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air melee snipe shot you dont even need to aim lol

terse quarry
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terrible person won't even get close enough to do it

proven peak
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most nagants dont know that

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or even go for that

wintry vale
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just unlocked her, yall got some tuning recs?

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I have her hero costume

lyric flint
keen marsh
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I didn't the 10 ko with her yet although I am at 10k points ace

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I don't use the melee sniper combo tho I just use her normally

lyric flint
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Use it while it lasts (jk it won't get nerfed anytime soon)

keen marsh
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Nah I might try to learn it just to try it before the season ends

lyric flint
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W

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It's pretty satisfying

keen marsh
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You have to aim down after the melee right?

tardy lion
lyric flint
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You can do the air melee into SA headshot or melee 1 loop into SA

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One sec

tardy lion
lyric flint
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These are some examples

keen marsh
tardy lion
lyric flint
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Like as soon as your aim you should know where you wanna shoot

keen marsh
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I tried doing it casually with the quick scope and it didn't hit

wintry vale
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hows this?

keen marsh
lyric flint
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Yeah you def have to lab it for a bit to get the timing and aiming down

lyric flint
keen marsh
lyric flint
# wintry vale

You could sub out strike Bakugo for Strike Deku for extra GP damage to stack with endeavors

keen marsh
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You have to aim to some extent

lyric flint
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Next time you try it save clips

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Yeah I've hit the super quick ones that don't even seem like you're aiming before but it's hard

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Probably easier on pc

wintry vale
lyric flint
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Ah

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Most unfortunate

wintry vale
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fr

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and the game never gives me his data... since tuning was added i'd only managed to get kota finder once

keen marsh
wintry vale
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currently have 22 red deku data

keen marsh
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I remember it not working sometimes

lyric flint
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Which one is rapid bakugo for? Y attack power?

wintry vale
lyric flint
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Ah

wintry vale
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triple stacked gamma attack and alpha attack

keen marsh
wintry vale
lyric flint
keen marsh
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It wasn't working perfectly since release

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Idk if they fixed it like last season or smth

lyric flint
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I'd hope so

lyric flint
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Like this

wintry vale
tardy lion
# lyric flint

Yeah this combo is real nice for when you don't have her Special Action

lyric flint
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I used the gamma cuz I didn't think I'd hit the SA in that situation

sleek lantern
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Ayla has a good builds for strike deku

hollow crescent
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is it worth doing the willpower - quirk factor release combo on hospital gown (dangerous) or is there a better combo?

zenith orbit
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I personally use Strike Bakugo's Special Tuning on that set, getting PU from casual downs is clutch in the right moment

iron flax
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red slot could be filled with a large variety of skiils

cyan saffron
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Jiro summoning ritual

stiff leaf
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Ngl ,standing on high ground and doing nothing other than using special action from afar is fun

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That was how i imagined playing her before she dropped

barren jungle
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god I just a pc notebook 30 nagant on my team who got 0 kos while never dying and spending 50% of her time at the skybox

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like how can one be content with being so terrible

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do you just turn your brain off

lilac helm
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birdwatching bird pov type shee

lyric flint
signal depot
buoyant tapir
lyric flint
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Wouldn't say everyone, every single one I've played with didn't use it once

lyric flint
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Guess the knowledge needs to spread then

stiff leaf
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Nothing more scary than seeing an enemy nagant trying to air melee you

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And also seeing a tech shigi trying to get close and do the alpha stun exploit

signal depot
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yep

barren jungle
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like sorry I just completely disagree lol

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based on the fact theres two different knockdown values for his startup and actual charged attack

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or actually I need to double check that but the fact it does damage separate from the main blast is proof enough too

terse quarry
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Yeah the alpha stun lock isnt really an exploit just an unfortunate oversight on his kit

barren jungle
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the only real exploit is that it doesnt use alpha ammo

terse quarry
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It's fine though, nagant counter him anyway LadyNagant

keen lantern
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Anyone got tips for lady nagant

signal depot
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gamma beta then special action

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air melee special action if you have tunning build for her nursery outfit from s8

signal depot
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oh yeah forgot

proven peak
lyric flint
signal depot
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yep true that

tardy lion
# proven peak

I like doing Special Action so fast you don't even see the scope

terse quarry
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Will never understand people not paying attention while healing

terse quarry
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Well now that a trailer is out, can i use nagant while everyone hates tsukuyomi instead? Hawks

tardy lion
terse quarry
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He looks like he got a buncha armor, some stun lock button, and he can fly to a degree. All the making ls to annoy the general public AllMight

tardy lion
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I'm especially interested in Black Ankh

stiff leaf
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Remember Bois, whenever you see a nejire from now, give her a good headshot LadyNagant

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Imagine her with tech shigi who has the hp and defence increase tunings damm

proven peak
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agreed

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let's kill all of them

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target them

stiff leaf
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The air melee into special action got fixed

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The special action will have a delay before getting into scope mode after using air melee

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And they are gonna fix her Air movement in a later season, does that mean the gamma into beta flight bug wont be fixed?

terse quarry
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Iron might getting nerfed, i prayed for times like this

lyric flint
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EWWWW they're nerfing air melee into SA

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Do they not realize we can just add a melee 1 before the SA lol

proven peak
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it does more damage too

lyric flint
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And it's easier to set the aim up

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Sounds like the gamma beta exploit won't be touched tho

proven peak
lyric flint
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Yea, not as fast as I thought

terse quarry
lyric flint
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I remember her prime days

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Funny times

terse quarry
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I remember telling people alpha damage needed nerf, but it was slow and dodgeable and still got called a defender or excuser as if i didnt agree the damage was a little too high for projectile 🫠

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Now shes practically nowhere 😔

lyric flint
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Lmaooo yea it was crazy

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Still fun times for me tho I enjoyed the challenge 😌

terse quarry
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Now i have to be evil and hit special actions and ground gammas that people overlook because they expect me to fly to the ceiling with it instead LadyNagant

lyric flint
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Real

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Will be most unfortunate if she still has that bug for all of next season

terse quarry
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It has to get patched by nejire qss qt the very least. If not by third char/qss

lyric flint
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Yea

buoyant tapir
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They kept her flying bug

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☠️

terse quarry
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More like they didnt patch it yet but yes it's still there for now

proven peak
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sometime in s15

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but not off launch

buoyant tapir
terse quarry
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I see iron might damage as more broken but hey

buoyant tapir
terse quarry
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well apparently people do that he's in every game Hawks

keen marsh
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so today is the last day we can do the melee SA combo

zenith orbit
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Ima bigger fan of the Beta into Special combo anyhow LadyNagant

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Running a melee tuning on a sniper character doesn't feel right to me

barren jungle
keen marsh
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I like how they didnt touch anyones damage, just removed some techs and so

barren jungle
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Look at Tamaki and Shinso

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I’d give it 3 seasons max

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estimated 1-2

keen marsh
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at least we can still be having fun for the next season

terse quarry
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we?

keen marsh
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tokoyami didnt interest me enough tbh

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I hoped for star and stripe

barren jungle
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Nagant would still be fun even if she got damage nerfs across the board

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But nah she’ll have all of this season to gamma beta exploit too

terse quarry
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he seems......odd but it was just the trailer so i can't make judgements yet. seems like he'll just be doing what strike kirishima does of pushing through under shield/armor

barren jungle
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along with keeping her 350 headshot

keen marsh
barren jungle
keen marsh
barren jungle
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But it’s taking them a season to do it

terse quarry
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the clips already dropped? if so i didn't

barren jungle
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And like I said trance blow will probably confirm it too

keen marsh
barren jungle
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Doesn’t really do much

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She’s gone from top 1 with these changes to top 1

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😱

keen marsh
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I just like they didnt weaken anyone

barren jungle
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You shouldn’t like that

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All 3 characters this season need massive nerfs

keen marsh
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dont want to see the twice/monoma sitiuation

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I wouldnt say massive though

barren jungle
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I literally killed a strike Shoto 15 seconds after game start yesterday with AAM

barren jungle
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Maybe he can get 10% damage back

keen marsh
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yes but his gimmick is gone

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a balance is required between strong and fun

barren jungle
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What do you mean gimmick

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His SA still exists

keen marsh
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yeah but his copied quirks do no damage

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atp ppl just use his base kit

barren jungle
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Like I said he can maybe get 10% damage back but he has cooldown resetting and got his 300hp back

keen marsh
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which is fine except it removes hie gimmick

barren jungle
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it doesn’t really remove it

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He can still do an AFO gamma into kurogiri beta that puts people into storm

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Or double up with a tech shiggy and his alpha

keen marsh
#

yeah but thats just trolling

barren jungle
#

that’s not trolling dude

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I use sending people into storm in ranked with kurogiri

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I literally kill people with that

keen marsh
#

sending ppl to storm isnt how a character should be played

barren jungle
#

that’s an example

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of being creative

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also who are you to decide that?

#

that’s literally how he’s meant to be played

#

combining quirks

keen marsh
#

I dont think they made monoma to send characters to storm

barren jungle
keen marsh
#

so give me another example i can discuss

barren jungle
#

I literally did

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you did not read it

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lol

keen marsh
#

but when his copied quirks do no damage that makes it kinda useless

barren jungle
#

it’s no damage it’s manageable

keen marsh
#

i like a character which can utilize everything it has

barren jungle
#

Yeah it’s weak and he takes a lot of card investment but Jesus

#

don’t mention him and twice in the same sentence

#

he’s a low a tier

#

He doesn’t do no damage

keen marsh
#

what I am trying to say is we dont need to gut a character bc its op

barren jungle
#

Monoma wasn’t gutted

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he fell off for sure but now especially he’s fine

#

with his hp back

keen marsh
#

instead we should focus only on the essentail stuff so they can be both fun and rewarding to play

barren jungle
#

I think what’s fun for you is not fun for other people

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You may have liked putting someone into an assault endeavour beta and them spamming pre nerf compress alphas at them

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but for the person who just lost 500+ hp in 3 seconds flat

#

it was not enjoyable

keen marsh
#

he needed it but they overdid it

barren jungle
#

Like I say I agree that he can have 10% damage back

#

But I never considered him gutted, especially like twice

keen marsh
#

okay both of them got overnerfed but not the same extent

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I dont see your objection

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and rapid hawks is an another examplee

#

he was a monster for 2 seasons but he hit rock bottom afterwards

barren jungle
#

He deserved that

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But recent nerfs like Tamaki, Shinso and kurogiri’s have been less harsh

keen marsh
#

he deserved nerfs yes but not rock bottom

barren jungle
#

So focusing on those

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They’re fine

keen marsh
barren jungle
#

go back and check tier list videos

#

Tamaki and Kurogiri will be S tier in most

keen marsh
#

whats op about kurogiri cmon

barren jungle
#

He had a 400 damage plus combo…?

#

he has a insta tp for downed teammates that doesn’t have a range limit

keen marsh
barren jungle
#

also quirk factor release says hello

keen marsh
keen marsh
barren jungle
#

ok…?

#

he still exists

#

and got to use it before he got nerfed

barren jungle
keen marsh
#

my point is neither of them was op

barren jungle
#

Anyway the fact you didn’t reply to my 2nd gamma beta and map wide Rez tp line is gonna have me assume you agree with me then

keen marsh
#

if someone had it a little it would be shinso

barren jungle
keen marsh
barren jungle
#

nejire qss could heal for 500hp per second and give a new super shield that blocks all projectiles

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and she wouldn’t be op because she ain’t dropping a 20k in unranked against noobs

#

?

barren jungle
#

kurogiri has a no range limit tp when you go down that he only needs to press a button to activate

#

unless you’re in final circle it’s a get out of jail free card for dying

#

that alone makes him a tier

#

and then his mobility

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You can cross the map with 2 betas

keen marsh
#

thats good for him but not op

barren jungle
#

his sa isn’t op?

keen marsh
barren jungle
#

okay bro idk what to tell you then

barren jungle
#

He literally portals

cyan saffron
keen marsh
#

even if you didnt you can still catch up if you know his direction

barren jungle
#

set one long beta

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instantly tap beta again once you’re through

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there’s no time

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and you still have 1 beta left and 3 gamma betas

keen marsh
#

nagants gamma cover about the same distance as his portals man

cyan saffron
#

Yeah unless your on kuros ahh you aren't catching him

cyan saffron
keen marsh
#

a well positoned one does

cyan saffron
#

So what in air miles above

#

What kurogiri gets for free?

#

That means your situationally getting the same distance

#

Which is further providing why he has better mobility

#

Only person id say who could keep up with kuro is strike hawks

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Because he can cross the map in seconds

barren jungle
#

Nagant gamma absolutely does not cover same distance as a kurogiri beta

cyan saffron
#

Even then thats a if

keen marsh
#

what about armored might

barren jungle
#

that is an insane statement

cyan saffron
barren jungle
#

he’s not catching a kurogiri either

cyan saffron
keen marsh
#

looks like you both have a different kurogiri in your game

#

cause the kurogiri ik isnt that hard to catch up to

barren jungle
#

bro this ain’t even about skill

#

no one gets across the map faster than kurogiri

#

that’s a fact

keen marsh
#

I simply disagree

#

monoma reseting his betas

barren jungle
#

so someone else using kurogiri’s quirk

keen marsh
#

ofa deku

barren jungle
#

who woulda guessed it

keen marsh
barren jungle
keen marsh
#

reseting his own betas

barren jungle
#

ofa Deku is not even the 5th fastest rapid

#

wtf are you talking about him beating kurogiri 😭

barren jungle
keen marsh
#

and how you telling me armored might with 2 dashes and 3 betas cant catch up

barren jungle
#

armoured might can cross the map doing that stuff yeah

#

but kurogiri can just keep going

#

and also get to the place 10x faster

keen marsh
#

looks like I cant convince you but kuro doesnt represent a threat to me at least

#

no hard feelings

barren jungle
#

That’s a completely different argument

keen marsh
barren jungle
#

We’re talking about travel speed

#

also yeah he’s not s tier anymore cause he got nerfed

keen marsh
#

then we moves from his SA to his movement

barren jungle
#

I’m saying look before that

#

that was the point

#

OP characters not getting gutted

keen marsh
#

and I said kuro wasnt op in the first place

#

even if he doesnt come close to characters who caused community rage

barren jungle
#

Just because he wasn’t prime monoma or hawks tier doesn’t make him not op

keen marsh
#

rapid hawks
twice
tech shigi
nagant
armored might
monoma
kuro doesnt come close to those in terms of asking to be nerfed

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even red deku at some point

barren jungle
#

you’re not reading what I’m saying

#

because I could just copy and paste what I said right above your comment to reply to it

#

also never put twice and red Deku with any of those characters in the future please

barren jungle
#

Yup

barren jungle
#

They’re not on the same tier at their primes

keen marsh
# barren jungle Yup

well instead of arguing kuro is op or not I said even if he is he didnt cause community rage

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he wasnt (broken) if you know what i mean

terse quarry
#

He had the beta combo doing BS damage but he still required skill to play

keen marsh
terse quarry
#

Not the most popular pick though, when he is he's just there for special action

keen marsh
terse quarry
#

I mean a character can still be OP and require skill, it just means they arent beginner friendly. Not a famous example but blazblue had a character named izanami who is haaaaated for how good they are but thats not a beginner friendly character by any means

keen marsh
#

unlike kuro

keen marsh
#

you can be wrecked by a red deku hitting all his alphas but cant call the character op the player is just good

terse quarry
#

Ehhh dunno bout that example since strike deku is pretty easy

keen marsh
#

also I dk any of the names you have mentioned

keen marsh
terse quarry
#

Yeah thats why i said that wasnt a popular example its just the one i have on hand and idunno what anyone plays outside of this

fringe briar
#

Any nerfs yet

proven peak
#

They nerfed nothing lol

#

That works into headshot too

terse quarry
#

But its really just where people tend to be split. Obviously anyone hates a character just erasing your health, but its like if both roads lead to the same (just to put a number on it) 500 damage. One is air melee > special action and the other is like 5 other steps involved but it just means people have to take more time to learn to do it. Some are fine since one takes more effort but like me i think both are still bs just one BS takes more effort

barren jungle
#

it was using beta 3 times on someone and then ending it with a gamma beta

#

if you were referring to that

lyric flint
#

From their wording you just have to throw a melee 1 after the air melee then you can still SA

#

Gotta wait to try it tho

#

Maybe they worded it bad

keen marsh
#

just speculating tho

lyric flint
#

If we can still quickscope after melee 1 that will be hilarious

keen marsh
#

agreed

#

if the delay only works after the air melee they are cooked

lyric flint
#

Fr

barren jungle
#

Or at least I don’t think it does

#

m1 you should be able to roll out of before the sa but I’m not entirely sure actually

#

cause air melee doesn’t put you in the air either

lyric flint
#

I've done it before but had accel active

thorn thistle
#

what did i just read

proven peak
pseudo stag
#

could I have some tuning recommandation for her hospital skin

cyan saffron
#

@calm granite

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Your job

#

Gogogog

calm granite
#

is her best in slot

pseudo stag
#

hum do you have any screenshot cuz my game is in french and picture would help me

pseudo stag
stiff leaf
#

Do you guys think we will have a problem with tokoy?

#

The only annoying thing i see from a nagant perspective is his shield, other than that he seems normal to play against

lyric flint
pseudo stag
#

yeah

lyric flint
#

Alr one sec

pseudo stag
#

okay thanks

lyric flint
pseudo stag
#

thank you!

lyric flint
#

Ofc!

lyric flint
terse quarry
#

Cool shield..... beta

#

If he could do anything besides run up melee or heal i'd be more worried.....wait what if he can unlock boxes and get kota while it's up Cementoss

stiff leaf
#

Early game , me and my team against another team

#

I downed one of their team

#

And they downed one of mine

#

I went to save mine , and found the other team compress executing him, did a in the air special action headshot and he immediately died

#

5 mins later that compress is back but this time he has infinte plus ultra and unlimited alpha and gamma

#

Got cooked by him

#

Man felt mad about what i did and decided to turn on his cheats xD

languid plinth
lyric flint
tardy lion
lyric flint
proven peak
#

melee loop if you have accel

#

nobody does but

tardy lion
# lyric flint 😭

Yeah you can do air melee -> melee 1 -> melee 2 -> scoped shot if you’re fast enough

lyric flint
lyric flint
tardy lion
lyric flint
#

I seee

agile aspen
thorn thistle
#

this nerf is like the deku situation

#

they simply made it harder to do things

#

they didn't necessarily remove the problem

#

You can probably still grant things with Accel and just repeat the process, rapid deku still has his loops, its just tight, nagants Air Melee having a delay is simply just makes people choose more combo varieties to lead into SA again

proven peak
#

most people won't bother

#

like deku's loop there's like maybe 4 people that do it

thorn thistle
#

tbh some people just drop the character when they see a slight nerf until they see the character doing well still

split nimbus
#

this guy actually gets heated when u call out nagant being broken

terse quarry
#

Tbf, theres people who literally come to this specific char channel just to complain and anyone who speaks against is just defending her being broken even though they agree on nerfs and make valid points Hawks

cyan saffron
lilac helm
stiff leaf
#

The flight exploit got fixed nice

terse quarry
#

Can i play nagant now without people all in my ear? Shiozaki

stiff leaf
terse quarry
#

Shhhhhhhhhhh

stiff leaf
#

I think they kinda tried to fix it but still failed

#

When i try to quick scope my shot misses and goes to another direction

#

I think they made it so nagant arm must be facing the target which prevents quick scoping

#

Tho not sure

toxic wave
#

its like blanking

whole birch
whole birch
#

😭

rancid raft
#

Wish i could have clipped it but potato laptop

rancid raft
#

🙁

sinful vessel
#

The SA was changed to shoot where your laser pointer is at, the laser pointer does not come out until about a second now, so all your quickscopes will go to the center of the map (also known as 0,0)

#

But if you hold it long enough for the laser then shoot, your shot will go to where you laser pointer is at

#

This means your quickscope/noscope will go there

#

Not where youre facing

#

She can still air melee into SA you just have to hardscope it a bit now

#

But obviously it will be more difficult against high ping bc they will be behind you sometimes after air melee

livid finch
#

How do you play nagant on console?

sinful vessel
#

This is what i mean with the SA change

lyric flint
lyric flint
sinful vessel
#

Beta into SA never needed a quickscope

lyric flint
#

Exactly

#

Byking combo is crazy tho 😭😭😭😭

sinful vessel
lyric flint
#

💀

#

Yeah that means it will never get touched 😭

sinful vessel
#

Yup, byking can never touch the byking combo

lyric flint
#

💯

rancid raft
#

I think this change to the quick scope is fine

#

As much as i loved twirling 2-3 times into quickscope

#

💔

lyric flint
#

💔

#

Eager to lab it all when I get home

stiff leaf
sinful vessel
proven peak
#

im 90% sure they nerfed quickscope

#

i think it's inaccurate now

tardy lion
#

You have to wait for the laser to show up for it to be accurate now

unreal wedge
sinful vessel
lyric flint
#

Did they fix her English voicelines

signal depot
#

dw don't worry nagants main here i am

#

look i know but sometimes you gotta move on she is here she is part of the game move on everyone ask for nagant to be inculded if you don't like nagant then go play minecraft or other games

#

to take ease off you're head

terse quarry
#

Ok then

signal depot
#

that's what i do a lot since they added so buff characters that needed to nerf but when i comes to that i actually quit the game because wasted rolls i play other games instead to ease my head

unreal wedge
#

Yo whomever this nagant is ur bad and nothing without ur team u sweaty basement dweller

#

Legit spawn killed tf outta me b4 the timer even went off

signal depot
#

when i used to have friends now they hated nagant 2 people bro i think one i can see he hate nagant

#

😭

lyric flint
lyric flint
terse quarry
signal depot
lyric flint
#

Why must they be so lazy and not fix her English voicelines

terse quarry
signal depot
#

so the first match i was going after her first when i went to get some loot at this first match he kill me then when i was killed by him he t-bag me like spam me emote who ever this is you t-bag me you are sweaty greasy ah hair troll stub you're toe idiot i hope one thing for sure one of this will happen to you

terse quarry
#

Are you.....in jp server...?

signal depot
#

yeah why

terse quarry
#

Getting BM'd by japan

signal depot
#

bruh

wintry vale
signal depot
signal depot
wintry vale
gleaming crow
#

Is it true they fixed nagant quick scope ?

lyric flint
#

U have to wait for the laser to show which is still a quickscope

hazy galleon
#

They should give that SA a widowmaker charge

terse quarry
terse quarry
signal depot
native pike
#

why does nagant alpha not count as a quirk if she is aiming with SA?

barren jungle
#

Regardless of if the SA is a quirk or not

native pike
#

bit she also uses her alpha after that?

#

so she can still use her alpha even if erased?

#

i thought her only weakness was aizawa but i guess even that was too much

thorn thistle
barren jungle
#

Her SA is not just the scope and air walk

#

it also counts the bullet

native pike
#

just double SA?

#

its more fair playing against shadow hackers then nagant player, even if they don't use the bug

zenith orbit
#

Aizawa specifically only being able to disable quirk skills but not Specials has always screwed him I feel

terse quarry
#

I mean she clicks alpha but it isnt using alpha ammo, if he completely shut down all but melee he'd be way more hated....

#

Cementoss imagine he had that during the golden sisterly age? Oh i'd sell the pitchforks myself

sinful vessel
zenith orbit
#

ye but there are ones that specifically counter it, like a mobility Special to get out of range, an offensive Special to not be helpless, etc

#

this is what makes him balanced though I ain't saying he's bad for it lol

sinful vessel
#

Shinso, mt lady, tamaki, nagant, another aizawa, yafo, togas, nagant

#

I guess shoto lol

#

But like the rest of the cast just moves or cant move much

zenith orbit
#

also Endeavor tbf

#

good chunk of characters can make use of their Specials to get away or deal with it

sinful vessel
#

I meant ones that can attack him out of erasure with special

zenith orbit
#

oh ye fair

sinful vessel
#

Nejire, aam, endy, tamaki, tokoyami etc can use theirs to run away

#

Toga is devious tho bc transforming/detransform gives you a window to use your quirks vs him

terse quarry
#

Or get alpha'd since it makes her sit still for a sec

sinful vessel
#

Detransforming doesnt

lilac helm
#

bakugo has special air melee, though you definitely wanna dash to one of his sides then snap back onto him, if he reads it with gamma it's very favorable for him though

calm granite
#

I have kept this quiet so long!

cyan saffron
tardy lion
#

Her Special Action and alpha are two different things

#

You are not shooting your alpha with the scope you are shooting a different projectile entirely with the scope

lyric flint
terse quarry
#

Did i miss the strengthen part? Shiozaki

lyric flint
#

Shot someone's stomach earlier and it counted as a headshot

lyric flint
proven peak
#

tracers can be inaccurate

#

normally that wouldnt happen tho

sinful vessel
#

It depends on the barrel more than ur sight

woven laurel
#

I am trying to get used to the new SA change

woven laurel
#

Yo does nagant special action go through wall ?

#

Cuz I just killed afo behind a wall

signal depot
#

yeah you mean beta

woven laurel
terse quarry
#

I know special action is crazy strong but it doesnt hit through walls Shiozaki

woven laurel
rapid magnet
signal depot
rapid magnet
signal depot
#

so the rumors has been told once person healing in the walls that's her special does a lot damage through wall

terse quarry
#

Thaaaaat shouldnt be happening thats odd

woven laurel
#

Bring back my quickscope man I never used the melee special action combo I was happy that it got nerfed but they nerfed my quickscope too reduce the dmg don't ruin it for me byking I pulled nagant for quickscope dopamine

terse quarry
#

Grounded gamma dopamine is better Hawks

woven laurel
#

I use the gamma in melee combos

split nimbus
woven laurel
#

Is lady nagant special action gonna get fixed or is it gonna be this way all season?

signal depot
#

LOL

#

my man is gonna

woven laurel
#

Perception lady nagant? Works now?

#

😂

#

Most people won't see it coming

lyric flint
terse quarry
#

I just wanna play nagantin peace but noooooooooo now imma have people tossing wallhacks on my name

hazy galleon
#

Nagant needs another nerf

#

The cd on that Gamma and the movement she has is faster than a rapid and barely any downtime. She practically never hits the ground...

terse quarry
#

Dabi lemme live mah life

vital galleon
#

anyone else not hitting quick scope consistently?

lyric flint
wheat geyser
#

he's baaaack...

#

i had a REALLY rough patch with nagant. like i quit her. but now i suddenly have good aim on console. even if i miss a lot

hazy galleon
#

Brainded character

hollow crescent
#

Kind of a reach, but is there any way to make it so that the only sens you change is the one where you zoom in with your special?

hollow crescent
hollow crescent
gleaming crow
#

We can still quick scope

iron flax
lyric flint
gleaming crow
wheat geyser
wheat geyser
sinful steeple
terse quarry
#

Seems fair to me

barren jungle
#

but yeah everyone and their mother knows her sa needs a dmg decrease

terse quarry
#

At this point it's just idunno what else there is to say Hawks

sinful steeple
#

This game aint fair

terse quarry
#

Said it

barren jungle
#

You are playing on switch you are already at a disadvantage by default

zenith orbit
#

Need that next gen update

#

Like at least give Switch 2 users a chance Cementoss

grand spruce
#

what outfit and tuning should i get on nagant

wheat geyser
#

can you not quick scope anymore?

rancid raft
#

Laser needs to show up before you can shoot properly

#

Otherwise it will go wherever it wants

#

Accuracy isn’t increased anymore 💔

wheat geyser
wheat geyser
rancid raft
#

just a joke about her scope voiceline

gleaming crow
quick light
#

Okay if you abuse flying bug youa re dog sht

barren jungle
#

imagine needing the auto lock on air melee to play the game for you for you to actually have a chance at hitting your shots

terse quarry
#

So you want me to just alpha? Shiozaki

#

Melee would be fine if the special action wasnt crazy strong

lyric flint
#

Atp we may as well use what's there lol, gotta blame the devs not the players

terse quarry
#

At least it's not the gamma bug

lyric flint
#

Ye

woven laurel
#

I want my quickscope back

#

Jusus I had to deal with 2 tech shiggy at the last circle holy h3ll it took me so long to kill them jesus if I had my quickscope I would've deleted them

#

Why do we have raid boss in this game Jesus

#

Welp if Iam not getting my quickscope back I guess I have to adapt abuse beta special action more lol

proven peak
#

perception nagant could be tuff

#

now you can shoot thru walls with sa

woven laurel
#

Lmao I feel like nagant is gonna get same treatment as rapid hawks if people keep complaining

terse quarry
#

Bro i just wanna play the character, stop finding stuff

woven laurel
#

I stopped using her for now

#

I hate tech shiggy man

#

He is pain in the @ss

#

Btw please tell that lady nagant special action is bugged now and that is not the fix they made to counter the melee special action combo?

#

Cuz Iam gonna k!ll myself if that's the case

#

No more quickscope=depression

hazy galleon
#

Blue hawks didnt deserve it Nagant does

woven laurel
#

He did deserve it

hazy galleon
#

The first nerf was enough 😭

woven laurel
#

But he needed nerf

#

People complained to much about him

#

I guess he gave them ptsd

hazy galleon
#

Dw i did too

woven laurel
#

😂

#

Reduce Lady nagant special action dmg but give me back my quickscope

terse quarry
#

If nagant deserves it for the special action hawks deserved it for having a beta be a death sentence Cementoss

woven laurel
#

LMAO

#

Killing rapid deku makes me happy

#

And tech shiggy

barren jungle
#

instead of confirming it with air melee

#

I can forgive the beta sa confirm because it’s more easily dodgeable

#

a Nagant coming from the sky and air meleeing you into sa death isn’t

barren jungle
#

You just can’t scope in for 0.3 seconds and shoot anymore

#

now you have to wait a second

#

it’s not that bad

terse quarry
#

I say let chaos run through the streets as long as it kills iron might

lyric flint
#

Hard counter

woven laurel
woven laurel
lyric flint
#

Ofc ofc

woven laurel
#

Fk that shiggy

lyric flint
#

He had the revenge tunings but they couldn't keep up

woven laurel
#

Lmao nice

woven laurel
barren jungle
#

??

#

😭

terse quarry
#

They'd be cooler if they did Hawks

woven laurel
#

Strike hawks is fun

#

I hate the beta it fks up my camera

blazing jewel
woven laurel
#

These names need to stop it gets worse

blazing jewel
blazing jewel
#

Scroll down a bit where it says camera interaction

woven laurel
#

👀

woven laurel
#

Camera movement

wheat geyser
#

i need tips in hitting air melee into special action

#

apprently it still works

woven laurel
#

Ow really

#

I would like to know too

#

@blazing jewel thank you good sir

lyric flint
wheat geyser
lyric flint
tardy lion
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blazing jewel
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Who's gonna rep Lady Nagant in that Eu tourney 😃

barren jungle
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If they’re playing to win anyway

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Lmaooo

bleak bridge
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Sniper Nerfs when

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terse quarry
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"nagant hitting air melee into special action is so unfair"
so aizawa?

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The crazy thing is I really don't know who that was I was on a killing spree, didn't kill an Aizawa tho

terse quarry
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coulda been anyone, you were nagant Hawks

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coulda just been someone watching

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Probably killed his teammate that had revive cards

hazy galleon
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Yknow it feels good to make a nagant ragequit like i did

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With Ibara

terse quarry
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Nagant hate is forced and everyone pretends iron might stopped existing

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Also hate the scope change because there so many times i would hit someone

candid nimbus
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Ain no way we giving tips on how to play a broken character.Cementoss

terse quarry
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AiNt No WaY wE gIvInG tI- shhhhhhhhhhhush ya face as long as the others demons exist then this can too Cementoss

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Bet iron might got someone right now giving tips

barren jungle
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😭❤️

terse quarry
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I wish they did the special action damage instead of the quick scoping though, i seriously wanna get rid of flying iron mights without having to spend that second waiting as they do whatever Shiozaki

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Wait so you only need to do the zoom in/out twice then you can do QS for the rest of the match?

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I was wondering this too

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