Midoriya (OFA)

[lucid onyx]

https://youtube.com/shorts/G0lR4XPf8yk?si=wdOGQ54JBxOE2CVd

[strong widget]

You guys are stinky

[sullen stream]

You*

[strong widget]

No you

[worldly dune]

i love the gameplay loop of air melee into air melee into air melee into air melee into beta 🔥

[whole root]

You should swap out trance blow you can do WAY more combos without it

[sullen stream]

I was mainly going for IF and embrittlement but y'know, no keys over here

[whole root]

Oh yeah I got it

Now I use tech shigi tunning and will power

I use to run embrittlement and iron fist

[humble night]

I like your profile picture

[humble night]

A persona fan spotted

[meager wharf]

Yeah trance blow is awful

[abstract oar]

No Spain

[gusty cargo]

any advice at all is appreciated before i lose my mind over this character

[whole root]

Thanks

[spare kiln]

😭

[worldly dune]

you cannot possibly trade him, you need teammates to get him off of you and help you out

either that or play a character like rapid might who can bob and weave him and get big chunks off of him in between dodging

[gusty cargo]

so basically what youre telling me as a yellow kiri/purple toga main is that im finished

[worldly dune]

yeah toga you're screwed unless you can somehow shake him off of you
yellow kiri can do some shenanigans to counter him with alphas and betas

the problem is that if he starts to use alphas on you instead of running you down

he's just going to knockdown loop you through your super armor

[worldly dune]

an idea with toga is take his blood and alpha spam him

itll chain knock him and give you super armor

[tropic lantern]

You lose if you turn into him as toga, you have to activate gearshift and try to get it to 5th gear

[gusty cargo]

how the hell do you do that i dont understand this character 😭

[tropic lantern]

gearshift is his gamma and you get top gear by completing his melee chain

If you turn into him you'll only be in 2nd while he's in top gear which makes him faster than you at everything

[worldly dune]

nah, you can just spam alphas to make distance

[tropic lantern]

you literally can't

[worldly dune]

if they do the same thing they aren't putting enough pressure on you

[tropic lantern]

his alpha is faster

[worldly dune]

its true but it means you can make distance

and get to your teammates

[tropic lantern]

not really

especially not with the alpha changes

you're better off with Toga kit

[gusty cargo]

melee chain?? im so lost

[worldly dune]

his gamma gives him a movement speed buff, speeds his attacks up and unlocks a few extra moves in his kit

when you use his melee and land the uppercuts, each hit increases his gears by 1 increasing that buff

gear 5 is the maximum amount you can have and unlocks that annoying lock on move he has that seems to always hit you

[gusty cargo]

yeah can we burn this character

[pine gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/never-harrypotter-angry-fire-no-gif-4751988

[gusty cargo]

burn him NOW !!!!!

[pine gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-not-going-to-happen-not-happening-gif-12587611

[gusty cargo]

im making it happen today

[fervent kite]

Did you never consider hopping on training mode and seeing what he can do?

[gusty cargo]

i have multiple times

also read his skill details a bunch

i can never tell what’s happening though

[gusty cargo]

i wouldn’t come to ask other people for help before thinking to maybe have a think and try figure it out myself

[fervent kite]

Your confusion about overdrive told me otherwise

Anyways

Rapidku's moves are really telegraphed

You can tell from a glance what he's doing but you also need quick reactions to even counter whatever that is

There ain't really tech, moreso hope you can jump him or that the rapid deku is dumb enough to throw himself at you mindlessly

Tl;dr movement-based char? Don't stand still and try to rip his health while moving

Grounded charactar? Pray

Or corner him in a room

[spare kiln]

They playing two old characters that get countered by everyone else

Yellow kiri is easily countered ny assault deku

[meager wharf]

That should’ve been your first move when you’re losing to someone you don’t know. Take them to training

Nvm just finished reading

Looks like you’ve done it

[gusty cargo]

yeah i have multiple times but just still cant get a grasp on how he works especially in game when theyre just comboing me for 250+hp

[meager wharf]

You might be cooked

[gusty cargo]

i might be

[meager wharf]

Don’t get me wrong, he’s probably best character in the game in the right hands.

Not a ton you can do against a very good one but be better

[gusty cargo]

yeah at this rate im never gonna be better so im probably just gonna continue to run away from him best i can while screaming profanities at my monitor

[void wolf]

yo

i need some help guys

i just got ofa deku a bit ago

and like what tuning build do u suggest?

[fervent kite]

Pray your teammates aren't absolutely horrendous at the game 🙏

[fervent kite]

What outfits do you have?

[gusty cargo]

trust i pray every time i load into a game. only works a good 15% of the time 💔

[meager wharf]

I would suggest playing as a character that can kite him a bit better or at least survive/trade with him.

Tech Shiggy, Assault Overhaul can kite, someone mentioned rapid might, both kendo’s could be solid, and a red kiri can win the matchup

Not an ideal solution but one of the only ones

[gusty cargo]

learning red kiri it is

[void wolf]

Ofa final battle ver, quirk assist gear ofa ver, quirk assist gear ofa villain style, leather style ofa

[fervent kite]

Final battle base color and the yellow recolor

You can get card dupe embrittlement on the first one and hyper regen + revenge support on the second one

[void wolf]

Alright

[void wolf]

Thanks

[spare kiln]

@gusty cargo i honestly got no idea what to tell you about ur situation since ur using very old charcters like toga and kiri the only safe thing for u is timing after he says overdrive 😭

U better pray u got someones op blood when ur toga

[gusty cargo]

what if i just delete the game

all im hearing from this is that im finished

[spare kiln]

Good for ur sanity 😭

[spare kiln]

Its literally impossible with yellow kiri and somewhat possible with toga

[gusty cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/ruel-oneruel-crying-gif-15005662365135737342

i run into them more when im playing yellow kiri what is this harassment

[spare kiln]

😭

I have one solution for you @gusty cargo am sorry but u need to have a rapid deku on ur team😭

Or someone with god aim 😭

[gusty cargo]

please stop talking i dont want to hear anything about this annoying character ever again

hes ruining my happiness

[spare kiln]

Am sorry 😭

[fickle harness]

I mean a good timed level 9 beta from assault kirishima will get him rethinking his life choices

[spare kiln]

The issue is the timing u need extremely good timing

[fickle harness]

well I have that cuz hes my second main lol

its so funny to watch them run after hitting it

u can hit bakugo gamma (strike) but its harder cuz he can interupt you

and ive found that somewhat effective

I honestly hate fighting asui still more than any character

[spare kiln]

Well yuh kinda

[spare kiln]

@tropic lantern bro 😭 i had a full rapid team with rapid deku the air alpha became a literal machine gun😭

[void wolf]

yo

[spare kiln]

Yo

[fervent kite]

Probably the funniest character oat bro

3 seasons untouched and still a menace

[meager wharf]

“Untouched” is generous

He’s gotten buffs

And the most nothing nerfs ever

[fervent kite]

I was thinking nerfs yeah

He got a flick for misbehaving and then got a nuke handed to him

[meager wharf]

First they made his combo harder, then they made it easier. Now he can air alpha like crazy

[fervent kite]

The air alpha change is so good

I've been free styling it mid-melee

[spare kiln]

That works?

[spare kiln]

Hes getting mc treatment nerf ammune

Nerf ammunity armor

[fervent kite]

Kinda yeah, it doesn't really combo but it's a great way to guarantee a kill

[spare kiln]

Ama do it thx for that

[strong sedge]

TB ain't even good on him breh

Take that TB off son

[sullen stream]

Already did

[strong sedge]

Good to know

No benefits frfr

[worldly dune]

trance blow makes overdrive actually landable but id rather have the melee combos

[fervent kite]

Overdrive is situational but if you know when to use it goes crazy

[south solar]

L Reddit hivemind

One day those hardstuck pro players will understand

[strong sedge]

Bu-but what do you mean I have to p-press a button to invalidate the whole combo that's very hard to remember

[vocal nacelle]

lol

[spare kiln]

@strong sedge am honestly convinced the devs don't read feedbaxk

They would do everything but read it atp

[strong sedge]

More than likely, but since I basically copy>paste it I don't really mind uploading it every day

[spare kiln]

I have on thing why add a delay on the Alpha that would make him extremely hittable which negates the point of most alpha in games beside the fast attack

I understand the beta down power cuz that shi is☠️

[strong sedge]

Well, the point of ground alpha is that it's a heavy attack that takes buildup and has a slow fire rate.......

However you basically have no startup because GS (and making it slower just makes the non GS version a horrendous move) and you can spam it by just dashing and then inputting it again

[spare kiln]

Tho that's the point of gs to make him fast

Aren't you just making gs not do its job

[strong sedge]

I am, he will still be able to shoot it fast, just not spammable as hell

[spare kiln]

I think they should make roll canceling its immpoisble instead

[strong sedge]

Holy I hate the server censoring cuss words, I curse to much

[spare kiln]

Am holding about 600000 cuss words as we speak bro

[strong sedge]

Wouldn't fix anything tbh, you can still dash cancel for the same fire rate as air alpha which is Defo not what they intended

[fervent kite]

Just make it uncancellable

Period

[strong sedge]

Which is literally what I mean by adding a small delay where you can't do any actions 😭

[spare kiln]

No need for the delay just disable the dodge action for that specific scenario

[meager wharf]

I think the game is balanced more around Japan than US tbh

[south solar]

i mean

beta should hard knockdown no

you could probably find a way to extend off it

if they dont tech

and considering people do not like to for some reason

they will complain more 😭

[strong sedge]

Honestly ATP that's skill issue, if you don't tech after an assault might beta people are quick to say skill issue and miss play

[south solar]

It definitely is

[strong sedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeroUltraRumble/s/zLmUBkb3yw
Also, they downvoting this, Reddit hates facts and logic when it doesn't apply to em it's so funny

[south solar]

They just said ok cool still an exploit 😭

[mint falcon]

And the melee loop is way harder than it used to be

[vivid forge]

how i can dodge cancel?

[spare kiln]

No matter what they do to him people will complain

[icy dome]

What changes would you guys suggest to make rapid Deku less annoying to the community as a whole?
I love playing him, and hate that his reputation isn’t the best
I’d personally make it so the ground alpha consumes 2 ammo is it’s less spammy
And increase the gauge used when using the lock on gamma
I just want to play my favorite character in peace without people hating on him 😭

Also I rly think smoke screen needs buffed
It’s so useless
It’s so small that it doesn’t rlly work to cover your location, and instead stop opponents from seeing where you’re going
I just want it to be larger even if it takes more percentage

[tropic lantern]

Air melee vacuum decreased or the ground melee vacuum decreased so you can roll his melee, melee infinite needs to go, and I like your change to the ground alpha

[thin locust]

I don’t mind that alpha change

me personally id ask for a hitbox nerf

so it’s even more rewarding to hit your shots

mainly on ground alpha tho

air alpha is big but not ground alpha big

[icy dome]

Ya
I just feel like some people are so reliant on the ground alpha
Making it less spammy would make players use it smarter

[spare kiln]

Spamming ground Aloha is useless it insta knocks so spamming it makes zero sense other than waste ur bullets on someone already knocked

[tropic lantern]

Ground alpha spam is the most broken part of the kit lol

You can peel full teams off your teammates and it does great damage at the same time

[icy dome]

👆🏽

[fervent kite]

120 per shot, knockdown so they have to stay put while your teammate runs

And also risk dying if the rapid deku decides to hard focus on the fight

[meager wharf]

Brother what

That’s like calling AFO gamma useless

[spare kiln]

What do u mean exactly by spamming ground alpha cuz it hard knock downs so u cant spam it instantly cuz they down

[fervent kite]

You can spam it

Ground alpha
wait for wake-up
Alpha again

Repeat until the person either manages to hide and run or dies

[spare kiln]

Isn't the word spam just hitting the button over and over without stopping....

If u pause

Pretty sure last time i checked the word spam on bullet firing like skills is being able to hit them with no delay or pause

[fervent kite]

Which you can also do effectively against a crowd

[meager wharf]

The point is to spam knock them for pressure

[fervent kite]

His ground alpha is very spammable

Especially on overdrive

[meager wharf]

Like spamming is to use repetitively without threading much else in between

[spare kiln]

I think we have different means of the word spam😭

Maybe cuz i played titanfall 2

[fervent kite]

Spamming has multiple meanings

[meager wharf]

I mean you can take a textbook definition. But spamming a knockdown skill would mean waiting til they can take a hit again

[spare kiln]

My idea of spam is hitting the skills multiple times with no pause or knockdowns thats how i got introduced to spam in titanfall 2

[meager wharf]

It’s mostly just referring to constant output

Well Titanfall 2 doesn’t really have knockdown or I-frames, correct?

[spare kiln]

Nope u die like a pancake 🙏

[meager wharf]

Yeah so you have to apply it differently

[spare kiln]

I was introduced to spam by the weapon G2😭

[spare kiln]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Uz9RwB2yCKI?is=VtvHhKH-2Hbrwn-U slowest spam in game😭

[ruby nebula]

How to do the Beta followed in the end by the Quintuple?

[crimson path]

Press again at the right moment

[ruby nebula]

Is there any indicator for when to press?

[crimson path]

Not really

If you really don’t know, do beta, and while he’s punching just spam the button

[ruby nebula]

Do I have to press or hold it?

[crimson path]

You press, he punches, while punching you press again

[ruby nebula]

Ok thanks bro

[spare kiln]

Were u always a mod😭

[crimson path]

Not always

[spare kiln]

What do yall even do😭

[crimson path]

Answer tickets, ban hacked account/rude people, help ppl who ask for

At least on my level

Only discord stuff .-.

[spare kiln]

🙏

[icy dome]

Can’t you just hold the button as well?
Correct me if I’m wrong, I usually just press the button again

But I didn’t remember if that worked or not

[south solar]

no

[south solar]

well

you mean after your beta

i mean i dont think so but you can try

[icy dome]

Ik holding it after the beta would activate the slam
But as for holding the button throughout the attack, I didn’t remember if it’d work

[twilit edge]

They dont use it for that

[tropic lantern]

You can press beta, let go and immediately start holding again and it’ll work every time

Holding it from the start doesn’t slam consistently

[icy dome]

Gotcha, that’s what I figured

[icy dome]

I usually do that, or just press it again

[crimson path]

You can, but what he wants is to do both attacks consecutively, this would only do quintuple

[fickle harness]

did they nerf the inf m1 chain I cant seem to do it anymore?

[spare kiln]

Maybe

I gotta test tmr

[fickle harness]

it like doesint send them as high in the air so u cant catch them

[spare kiln]

Its how it should be

[fickle harness]

yea

[sullen stream]

LES GOOOO!!!!!

I TRIED AND CAN'T ROLL AFTER AN UPPERCUT!!!

FINALLY!!!

[south solar]

no you can def do it lol

[sullen stream]

What??

[sullen stream]

That was Monday idiot

They patched that but didn't announce it

[south solar]

there was nothing in the patchnotes saying they removed that

or in the data files

did they actually

[sullen stream]

Imma test it myself then

...nvm

It

Still

Exists

[tropic lantern]

Definitely still exists and just as easy as it was

[meager wharf]

L

[mint falcon]

how do it?

[fickle harness]

maybe I was just lagging I will try it again later

[low ruin]

Give overdrive a cooldown

[worthy vault]

Imma just leave this here

[spare kiln]

Its a gauge skill how do you cool down that

[jaunty rune]

i think he means give it a burn out like iida

which it definitely should have imo

[spare kiln]

We both know they will never do that 😭

[fervent kite]

How would they even adapt that?

5 uses and you die? LMAO

[worldly dune]

What would that even do

[craggy inlet]

why do people act like overdrive is this game breaking skill it misses more than it actually hits

i hardly use it

[tropic lantern]

If it’s for improving the perception of the character then overdrive is the problem

Probably 60% of the complaints most people have about the character is the lock on

It’s definitely the worst part of the kit but it’s the most oppressive thing in the world to a bad player

[craggy inlet]

yeah i honestly feel like 90% of overdrive complaints come from either new players or bad players cuz i littearly see people say its unavoidable or undodgable

[fervent kite]

It has insane travel range but also misses so often it's a non issue

[fringe blade]

Bro this happening to me too idk how we fix it

[spare kiln]

Nah fr

[spare kiln]

@fierce rain my guy rapid deku gamma misses as much as assult overhaul does

Especially if u have momentum 🙏

Please check before u post feedbacks

[craggy inlet]

fr bro

[spare kiln]

Shi never hits

Unless ur ping is 0

[craggy inlet]

@fierce rain the down power on his alpha is reasonable considering he has to be standing still and it has a wind up

[spare kiln]

Also zyr ur feedback is literally just asking to gut him

You practically asked for major nerfs o. Alpha beta gamma melee

[meager wharf]

Honestly kinda valid

Bro needs nerfs so badly

[jaunty rune]

...

[tropic lantern]

yeah....

Think the only movement person overdrive consistently hits is rapid bakugo

[spare kiln]

NOT THE ENTIRE KIT BRO IS ASKING FOR GUTTING NOT NERFS

[jaunty rune]

it isnt but ok

[spare kiln]

Urs hit? Mine never does to the point i refrain to ever use it😭

[jaunty rune]

instant 100 damage hard knock thats easy af to hit

unless you are spamming ground alpha with no overdrive it is not slow (and its still pretty fast without overdrive lmao)

oh and its armored

[spare kiln]

Nah its slow without gamma

[fierce rain]

ok and he deserves it.

[jaunty rune]

holy downplay

[amber phoenix]

Yoooooooooooo

People

Whats the best tunning for ofa deku

[tropic lantern]

Hyper regen + revenge support

[spare kiln]

Says the guy who never asked for help before judging ☠️

Wanna dodge his gamma roll when ever u hear overdrive

[spare kiln]

Yuh alpha comes out slow without gamma active

[tropic lantern]

His whole kit is terrible without top gear

You never have to be without it so there’s no point in talking about the character without full gamma

[spare kiln]

People will keep asking for nerfs and he will never be nerfed unless a new version of him comes out

Gamma already misses plenty unless ur ping is good

His game used to pause now it doesn't the pause had to go

[tropic lantern]

not talking about overdrive

talking about the speed boost to your alpha when you have top gear gamma

and just your move speed in general

[fierce rain]

does it even matter atp when you can almost a 100% uptime on his gamma?

[spare kiln]

Buddy instead of trying to gut ask for help on how to deal with him

Tell me ur exact

Issue

And ur main

[tropic lantern]

It does not

The characters broken and some characters can’t play into him at all

It’s reasonable that people want him looked at and are frustrated lmao

[spare kiln]

If they suffer against him dont they suffer against every other meta?

[tropic lantern]

no

characters can be uniquely oppressive

[spare kiln]

Like we already have aam who still a pain to battle even after nerfs same with rapid might hes extremely annoying

[tropic lantern]

Neither of those character are close to rapid deku rn

and they wont be unless deku gets his alpha nerfed

[spare kiln]

Nah rapid allmight is worse he has way better movement and his alpha is rapid hits with armor u barley can knock him out of it

[fierce rain]

???????

are u ragebaiting rn

[tropic lantern]

Naw he does this a lot

[spare kiln]

U play him dont you

[fierce rain]

no?????

i dont?

[spare kiln]

Can you tell us ur main so we can help you already?

[tropic lantern]

Rapid allmight movement aint that special after nerfs

[harsh lagoon]

Idt he's asking for help

[tropic lantern]

and his alpha while very good is not oppressive at all

[spare kiln]

He still faster with that beta

[tropic lantern]

it's punishable

[tropic lantern]

He's also worse at literally every other thing

[fierce rain]

hes just too oppressive for how easy it is to pilot. i get there are counterplays to EVERY characters. but genuinely deku is the one of the few characters that takes TOO much just to match him 1 to 1

[spare kiln]

And his alpha is practically pure spam with and u cant even hard knock him he tanked my rapid deku alpha

[fierce rain]

rapid all might is literally okay to deal with at the moment

i read your past messages too

[spare kiln]

Anyways from ur massage assuming u use overhual?

[tropic lantern]

2 alphas to knock him btw

[spare kiln]

What yall games mine never does its job

Bro just tanks them and grabs me

[tropic lantern]

bummer

it's a really good matchup for deku

[spare kiln]

Now am starting 5o think my game is bugged

Any of u got 130gp from gp sucker?

Cuz mine did yesterday

[unique bluff]

Literally this

[unique bluff]

Pretty sure closing out of the game and opening it back up works

Worked for me on Switch

[fringe blade]

It don’t

[unique bluff]

Then I have no idea

[fringe blade]

Yea I don’t either lol

[unique bluff]

I had the same issue the season before last season and that’s what worked for me

Of course I turned the game off immediately after seeing the issue

[fervent kite]

What help is there to ask against the character with 2 instant knockdown moves and great pressure

[spare kiln]

Seemed to help out the tsu player I spoke with

[fervent kite]

Why are you so strongly against rapid deku getting nerfed?

Does losing a crutch like him scare you that much?

[spare kiln]

No am not scared am just against nerfing the entire kit like that guy asked for

[fervent kite]

I don't think any character should get straight up gutted but he needs some heavy nerfs along with the other top tiers

[spare kiln]

Heck i even use assault deku in this meta

[spare kiln]

When they nerf every meta at the same time sure

[unique bluff]

Tbh I can’t even use him right anymore apparently

Like I try to play him and it lowkey just feels like I get targeted and hunt down

I can’t even land the whole Melee without losing my entire health during the middle of it

[fervent kite]

My pivoted Rapid Deku nerfs:

Damage reduction across the board (his alpha shouldn't be hitting for 99 at level 6)
Remove the armor from the grounded alpha until level 7
Lower down power on beta

Melee tracking feels kinda hit or miss recently but it should be lowered a bit too

[south solar]

you want people to combo off quintuple?

[fervent kite]

Not quintuple

45% impact

Hence only beta and not charged beta

[south solar]

You could probably find a way to combo off that it just wouldn’t be true I guess

Beta into gamma cancel with air melee

[fervent kite]

His regular beta is a hard knock

So no not really

[south solar]

Yea but you’re making it not a hard knock

[fervent kite]

His beta being a hard knock is a way bigger issue than it being a 350/400 dp move

Dude has 2 hard knocks and a tracking soft move on his kit

One of these need to go

They're not taking out overdrive

So if anything should go it's the beta

Doesn't hard knock but doesn't allow him to freely combo off of it for insane damage either

[meager wharf]

No the point is, even with a strong meta, Deku is above the rest in terms of base mechanics

So he needs to be nerfed, regardless everyone else

[fervent kite]

Bias is blinding

[jaunty rune]

i agree that fully gutting him isnt the way to go but he needs some big nerfs

[quaint dove]

why is deku so good but so hard to use

[meager wharf]

#skillissue

[fickle harness]

he's honestly not that hard to beat

[spare kiln]

hes predictable to me

[fickle harness]

same

every meta char is beatable even if its a little annoying

[spare kiln]

people hate his 500dp alpha and its speed

[fickle harness]

yea well its not that hard to dodge

[spare kiln]

Someone gonna attack you for that

😭

[fickle harness]

lol im not wrong

[spare kiln]

Try telling them that

[fickle harness]

just roll gng 🙂

also for all who think im defending bc I play him ur wrong I dont even own him

lol

[fervent kite]

Always some bs on this chat

It's either skill issues or downplaying cause y'all can't cope that your fave is busted asf

[spare kiln]

As he said he dont even own him

His favourite is kiri anyways

[fickle harness]

ya

yellow kiri solos every meta 🙂

[tropic lantern]

Guys just roll everything in the game, every character is so easy if you do that

[fervent kite]

Getting pressed by tech shiggy? Just roll of course

Why would you not

It's so easy

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[meager wharf]

Yeah if you guys think he’s easy to fight you’re just super dense

[craggy inlet]

getting cooked by support nejires alpha? Just roll vro

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[fervent kite]

Or fighting blatantly bad Rapid Dekus

[tropic lantern]

If character is so good then why have I beaten the good character with bad character 🤔

[craggy inlet]

nah that just seems like an issue on ur end

[meager wharf]

For sure for sure for sure for sure

[craggy inlet]

no seriously tho because YOU have an issue with ofa deku and cant avoid him it should be gutted

[tropic lantern]

Or maybe the character is clearly above other characters and should probably be nerfed a little bit to bring him in line

[craggy inlet]

share to me what should be nerfed

[tropic lantern]

He probably shouldn’t be able to do 400 damage if he air melees you would be a good start

[craggy inlet]

thats only IF they have no sheild and it 50/50 lands

[tropic lantern]

Nope

The loop is consistent on shields after the Tokoyami patch

[craggy inlet]

most of the time yea

[tropic lantern]

So you were just wrong about the shield thing

[craggy inlet]

what line brochacho tech shigi is LITTEARLY the best charecter in the game maybe strike afo

[craggy inlet]

i meant most of the time if they have no shield

[tropic lantern]

Tech Shiggy has gotten quite a lot of nerfs, definitely been brought down a bit, still really really hard to kill though

[tropic lantern]

If they have no shield

[craggy inlet]

tech shiggy and revenge support almost breaks the game

[tropic lantern]

Good thing rapid Deku can kill him now with the air alpha change

In fact he’s extremely punished for whiffing a beta or alpha

[tulip blaze]

And rapid deku does

😭

[craggy inlet]

u also gotta realize his melee and his alpha are the only good things in his kit

[craggy inlet]

rapid deku doesnt break the game

[tulip blaze]

Gamma is nice for movement and beta is a decent option

[tulip blaze]

A tod off a melee does in fact break the game

😭

[craggy inlet]

his gammas movment is mid and his beta isint good either

[tropic lantern]

Having two abilities that enable the other 2 things is not only having 2 good abilities

[craggy inlet]

the down power stops it from being a tod brotato

[tropic lantern]

O no it only does 400 damage!

Such garbage off an air melee with an insane vacuum

Also it is a tod if you whiff your first jab

[craggy inlet]

ill admit the air melee combo does bring him over the edge a little but ofa deku is built around his melee and his alpha

most of his other skills are mid

[meager wharf]

Oh you were serious 💀

That’s wild

[tropic lantern]

The character would be above average if you got rid of his melee

[meager wharf]

Gimme a sec but relish is gonna say everything I would

[craggy inlet]

the combo or the melee entirely?

[meager wharf]

And he’s prolly the best OFA I’ve seen play

[tropic lantern]

The entire melee assuming he kept the ability to go top gear

[craggy inlet]

whats his rank on the lb

[craggy inlet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bleach-he-laughed-ichigo-nT64g6QbelPJM6o47M

[tropic lantern]

The playtime leaderboard lol

[craggy inlet]

so what then he has 1 good move his alpha?

the rest of his moves are hit or miss

[tropic lantern]

His beta is fine and gamma is really good movement in areas with lots of corners

Also it’s such a downplay on the alpha to say it’s one good ability

When an ability can carry an entire kit

[craggy inlet]

its a great ability

[craggy inlet]

EXCATLY

[tropic lantern]

?

[tulip blaze]

U can skip the dp if ur good

[craggy inlet]

so what im saying is if they gutted his alpha his kit is mid

[meager wharf]

On what?

[tulip blaze]

?????

[tropic lantern]

So if they nerfed the alpha he’d be closer to other characters yeah…

[tulip blaze]

He has the best melee in the game still

[tropic lantern]

That’s like the entire point

[meager wharf]

Oh

[craggy inlet]

his entire kit is built around his alpha and melee

[tulip blaze]

His gamma would still proof be like top 3 gamma

[tulip blaze]

Yea

And its overtuned

[craggy inlet]

he needs his melee or reaching top gear would be harder

[tulip blaze]

And should be nerfed

[meager wharf]

Wait I fully disagree

[tulip blaze]

It can do be nerfed

[craggy inlet]

what are his other good moves

[meager wharf]

His entire kit is built around the ability to move so well

It’s not just “moves”

There are elements to this character that impact core game mechanics that no one else has

[craggy inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-shocked-gif-9885796698302419555

[tropic lantern]

Beta is really good mobility, also a really good and safe punish off his melee

Has prio over a lot of abilities

[craggy inlet]

beta is good mobility and thats it

[tropic lantern]

Nope

[craggy inlet]

the actual move itself hardly lands and is punishable

[meager wharf]

Increased roll speed for I-frames, hyper armor on melee and alpha, movement and jumps that require tunings for the rest of the cast

[meager wharf]

Wait you can literally thread a beta into a melee combo for a ton of damage???

[craggy inlet]

the alpha makes you stand still and isint rapid fire like assault deku its needs hyper armor

[meager wharf]

The ground alpha does, but also has 500 DP

It’s still fast output with GS

[tropic lantern]

Good thing the air alpha is rapid fire lmao

[craggy inlet]

and doesnt have armor

[tropic lantern]

You can roll out of it at any time

[meager wharf]

I’m not saying gut the character, that’s not fun. But he needs several nerfs

[tropic lantern]

The stand still argument for the alpha is so fake

It’s the safest move in the game

[meager wharf]

Yeah it’s literally .25 duration of a Shiggy alpha at most

[craggy inlet]

ill admit they should make it like tech shiggy but ur acting like it stuns

[meager wharf]

Maybe .15

[tropic lantern]

?

[meager wharf]

Uh

[tropic lantern]

Huh

[craggy inlet]

they should make it so that u lose ammo when uroll out of it

[tropic lantern]

Sure

[meager wharf]

That or even cost 2 charges

[tropic lantern]

Not sure what you mean by acting like it stuns

[craggy inlet]

its not like tech shiggy where the charge up stuns you

[meager wharf]

Animation locks

[tropic lantern]

Ok

[meager wharf]

Wait

[tropic lantern]

Not sure where I implied that lmao

[craggy inlet]

not saying u did that wasent my point u said u can roll out if it any time which doesnt matter since it doesnt stun

[meager wharf]

Minimizing his kit to 2 abilities might be the most disingenuous thing you can do when talking about the character

[tropic lantern]

It matters because it makes Deku infinitely safer

He doesn’t have to commit to it

[craggy inlet]

shigi can roll out to?

[meager wharf]

You also called Shiggy busted keep in mind

[tropic lantern]

Shiggy comes out slower, is more telegraphed and he loses charges

[meager wharf]

But also Shiggy has a longer animation lock

[tropic lantern]

And if he whiffs is punishable

[meager wharf]

More telegraphed AND shows the hit AOE

they’re not very comparable

[craggy inlet]

they only do that cause he can hit through walls

[tropic lantern]

So?

It still shows it if you’re not behind a wall

[craggy inlet]

im not comparing the alpha to eachother im comparing how they can both roll out of it

[tropic lantern]

But the abilities are super different is our point

[meager wharf]

Well keep in mind you are already notified when he’s using search

Shiggy alpha roll is more comparable to Tamaki rolling out of his laser than Deku rolling out of his alpha

[craggy inlet]

that is not what i said at all brochacho

tamaki rolling out of his laser is WAY different

[tropic lantern]

He’s making his own comparison, not referring to what you said

[meager wharf]

This ^

[craggy inlet]

that comparison wasnt good at all

[meager wharf]

Well I’m trying to illustrate the distance in similarity of Shiggy alpha to Deku alpha

[tropic lantern]

Yours wasn’t either tbf

[craggy inlet]

nah it actually made more sense compared to his

[meager wharf]

Okay, we can call it exaggeratory

[tropic lantern]

Happy for you, still garbage though

[meager wharf]

If you wanna sit on that, go for it

[craggy inlet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jjk-toji-fushigiro-1d9fEyT3rKx0cBlAgp

[meager wharf]

I don’t think any of your arguments really held up

[craggy inlet]

my point is tho that gutting dekus alpha and melee makes him mid

[tropic lantern]

That’s kinda the goal

That’s what everyone is wanting to have happen

That’s why they’re saying to nerf him

[craggy inlet]

nah but people are over over exaggerating it

[meager wharf]

But also, which one of us asked for the character to be gutted?

[tulip blaze]

Yes the best alpha and melee in the game should be nerfed

Plus beta and gamma are still great moves

[meager wharf]

Feel free to make any point defending this

[craggy inlet]

overly mid moves

[tulip blaze]

Like?

[craggy inlet]

his melee is a very important part to his kit for a reason it should stay the best

[tropic lantern]

Then the alpha needs to go

[tulip blaze]

Gamma is like a top 5 gamma and beta is like a top 10 beta

[meager wharf]

Should it have hyper armor?

[tulip blaze]

But a tod of it is a bit much

[craggy inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-9791600234365446047

DEKUS GAMMA IS MID

[meager wharf]

I’ll wait for the answer on mine

[craggy inlet]

YES

[meager wharf]

Okay what part of his gamma are you even talking about

[meager wharf]

Why in the world would a melee have hyper armor if its single target focused

[craggy inlet]

his melee take longer then most charecters to finish its almost like a move why SHOULDNT it have hyper armor

[craggy inlet]

OTHER PEOPLE CAN HIT U IN THE MELEEEEE

THAT IS THE WHOLE REASON WHY IT HAS HYPER

[meager wharf]

It also full resets GS

So there’s already a reward for getting it off fully

[tropic lantern]

It only takes one uppercut lol

[meager wharf]

This SHOULD be a thing

[meager wharf]

Even worse 💀

[tulip blaze]

It is some of the best movement in the game and let's u roll out of true combos

[tropic lantern]

Especially when the alpha exists

Some part of the kit should be punishable

[craggy inlet]

explain

[craggy inlet]

his beta is punishable missing ur gamma is punishable

[meager wharf]

Beta is barely punishable stop it

[craggy inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-reaction-reactions-meme-gif-8141100727479891642

[meager wharf]

If you’re talking about the slam

Depends what you’re referring to

[craggy inlet]

yes quintuple

[meager wharf]

He has almost 0 recovery time from it

[tulip blaze]

Gamma dash can be reset on walls for great movement and many combos u can roll out of cuz u just roll faster

[meager wharf]

Compare that to other slams in the game

Red Deku for instance

[tropic lantern]

Most recent one that comes to mind is Star pull can be double rolled out of

No character can do that

Tech mirio counter can be rolled most of the time

Kendo counter doesn’t work on him

[craggy inlet]

im pretty sure that quintuple is more punishable then red dekus but im not sure

[craggy inlet]

lie

[meager wharf]

That fixed I though, relish

[tulip blaze]

Nope

Its true

[meager wharf]

But keep in mind, for a long time, he went through kendo shield

Idek if it’s fixed

[tulip blaze]

As long as u aren't airborne

[tropic lantern]

You can straight up roll momo alpha

[meager wharf]

So it’s not a lie

[craggy inlet]

every charecter can roll momos alpha

[tropic lantern]

All of them?

[meager wharf]

No one else can do that

[tulip blaze]

The only things not stupidly good abt deku is smokescreen and held gamma

[meager wharf]

No one else has base kit space hop

[tulip blaze]

No

[meager wharf]

Beta slam isn’t that good

[craggy inlet]

held gamma hardly lands vro

[tulip blaze]

Yea

[tropic lantern]

That’s why they said it’s not good

[meager wharf]

They said that it’s not that good

[craggy inlet]

mb read it wrong

[craggy inlet]

so his beta is stupidly good to u?

[meager wharf]

That’s just a wrong take IMO

worst part of his kit prolly

[tulip blaze]

Yea

500 kd 150 dmg move

[craggy inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-frustrated-speed-over-it-speed-crash-out-speed-crashing-out-crash-out-gif-12382450018351543960

[tulip blaze]

And it's easy to wake up catch with air melee after

Amazing for finishing off

[craggy inlet]

????

[tulip blaze]

Amazing for third party

Great for movement

[tulip blaze]

U beta u wait for then to wake up then air melee

[craggy inlet]

u can do that off anything that hard knocks tho so what does that even mean

[tropic lantern]

Certain characters can be better at general things than others

Rapid Deku has better wake up punishes than a lot of the cast

[craggy inlet]

thats not what i was talking about

[tulip blaze]

Its a better set up to wake up catch

And if u do catch it they die most of the time

[craggy inlet]

u can do that with alpha to?

[tulip blaze]

U can

That's why it's broken

😭

[craggy inlet]

what is ur point bro

[meager wharf]

Noah what would your nerfs, if any, be to OFA.

Let’s assume you’re doing adjustments to the entire cast, but only focus on Deku rn, let’s hear what you’d change

[tropic lantern]

It’s still good off the beta though

[tulip blaze]

Deku is top 3 min

[craggy inlet]

so tech shigi nagant or strike afo is under

[tulip blaze]

And has no bad moves

Besides maybe held gamma and smokescreen

[tropic lantern]

Yes yes and yes

[craggy inlet]

beta

[tulip blaze]

Yes yes maybe not

[tulip blaze]

Beta is an amazing move

[craggy inlet]

and thats it

[tulip blaze]

Its not as good as alpha or melee

But still great

[craggy inlet]

mid

[craggy inlet]

strike afo tech shigi and nagant are deff better than rapidku

[meager wharf]

The beta argument is pointless tbh

It ain’t all that

[meager wharf]

🥲

Nagant WAS better and maybe in the hands of a very very good valorant player 💀

[craggy inlet]

tech shigi paired with revenge support makes him a boss fight and dont EVEN get me started on strike afo

[meager wharf]

This isn’t a good enough argument though

[craggy inlet]

explain

[meager wharf]

Having a long TTK doesn’t do enough. It definitely his strength. But being 1 nerf away from being middle of the pack is way different from where OFA is at

Like Shiggy doesn’t have an actual way to deal with meta characters for the most part other than being more survivable

[tulip blaze]

Let me remind u deku has a tod off his armored move with no cd

[craggy inlet]

tech shiggy beya even just whiffing it does like 80% of ur shield

[tulip blaze]

Some of the best chasing in the game

[craggy inlet]

u cant tod bro where are u getting this info from?

[tulip blaze]

And the best alpha in the game

[meager wharf]

That’s only if it hits. Also super punishable

[tropic lantern]

You literally can

[tulip blaze]

Melee loop?

[meager wharf]

Yeah he has an infinite 💀

We talked about this already

And it DOES work in shield

[craggy inlet]

show me a clip

[meager wharf]

And it combos with other characters super well, including tech Shiggy

LMAO

[craggy inlet]

its not infininte it hard knocks till a certain point

[tulip blaze]

That alone makes him top 3 min

[meager wharf]

You’re about to watch a clip

[tulip blaze]

U can skip the dp

[tropic lantern]

Learn to whiff your jab melee

And it’s infinite

[craggy inlet]

send it bro

[tropic lantern]

It’s the one that does 5 damage right before the 1 hits

[meager wharf]

Gimme a min

[spare kiln]

Beta is a shi mobility by the time i try to use that to move am already shot down cuz it takes time

[south solar]

Only if they’re in the air

[spare kiln]

No beta id hard knock down u can't melee after it

[tulip blaze]

That's what gamma is for

[south solar]

Straight up ground melee will never loop

[south solar]

Beta to quintuple

[tulip blaze]

Beta isn't used for getting away when ur right in front of someone

[tropic lantern]

No

[spare kiln]

U cant melee after quintuple either

[tropic lantern]

If you start with an air melee on shields it still loops

[tulip blaze]

Its a wake up catch

[south solar]

No you can if not all the hits land

[spare kiln]

Which means the have a chance to escape which they do against me sometimes

[craggy inlet]

wait are u talking about when there already in the air?

[tropic lantern]

No

Like bro can we read

[tulip blaze]

Yea

[tropic lantern]

This is insane

[tulip blaze]

Its not supposed to be guaranteed

😭

[spare kiln]

Yuh when ever i hit it it always lands thats the point of wasting ammo on it

I wouldn't use it if it wont hit

[craggy inlet]

then show a clip please cause im confused bro

[south solar]

It does not work on the ground they need to be somewhat in the air whether by bouncing from your air melee or being on a slope

[tulip blaze]

In convinced 50% of deku players aren't real

😭

[spare kiln]

Dont u diss assault deku

👀

[tulip blaze]

No?

[craggy inlet]

i’m convinced ur a hard stuck pro rank player

[tulip blaze]

I'm not

[tropic lantern]

This games rank system also isn’t real lmao

Everyone is ace

[spare kiln]

Am ace rn i got paired up with a gold mind explaining 😭

[tulip blaze]

Yea

It is not hard to get ace no more

[craggy inlet]

wasnt my point

[tulip blaze]

Then what is

[fervent kite]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Take the Deku pfp off man

Stop using your bias and use your brain for a second cause I cannot believe what I read

The only characters in the game that fend him off in a 1v1 are stun-heavy characters

Like AAM

Everyone else has to work twice as hard just to not get jumped the green haired demon that lurks in the corner of the room

Trying to escape? Too bad, his alpha shuts down any chance of that

Hard knock 100+ damage armored move btw

Got up close to maybe land a grab depending on your character?

He has an answer to more than half of the roster by just existing

You don't even have to approach anymore with the recent air alpha changes

Get overdrive, back away and slam jump alpha over their heads

[jaunty rune]

Just because there’s a stronger character that doesn’t mean that another strong and blatantly broken character shouldnt get nerfed

[fervent kite]

You don't even have to back away actually cause the air alpha lets you glide

So just fully land your melee and air alpha away

And what's worse is that with how they treat rapids he might even catch another buff and not see a nerf any time soon

Or they just gut him which is very unlikely since that hasn't happened after the new management took over

Reading both of these dumbasses spit out takes like "oh he ain't so bad there's way worse" just feels like watching children go "b-but he got to be broken why can't my fav be too :("

[craggy inlet]

so thats just simply not true yes ill admit his alpha is easy to stop chances of chars with air mobility from running but stopping you from running away entirley is just cap

[craggy inlet]

and his hard knock makes sense its not a rapid fire move like assault deku so why shouldnt it have hardknock it just wouldnt make sense

[craggy inlet]

so because u disagree with my take i should take off my pfp?

[craggy inlet]

so u didint read did you? i was talking about how he said bring him to the line but my question is what line is there in mhur?

[craggy inlet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bleach-he-laughed-ichigo-nT64g6QbelPJM6o47M

[jaunty rune]

It’s very clear where the line is

Look at characters like compress asshaul and strikedeavor

[craggy inlet]

so what we have like a few lined chars and then just broken over the top chars

[jaunty rune]

Characters that can be strong when used properly but aren’t overly oppressive and busted like characters such as rapidku

[craggy inlet]

there is no line brotato

[jaunty rune]

“A few”

Ahem

[craggy inlet]

alot of chars need nerfs but people are blinded by the meta to realize it

[jaunty rune]

Nagant, tech shiggy, techrio, rapidku, star and stripe, strike todo strike kiri, and strike hawks to name a few

[jaunty rune]

Clearly you are too

[craggy inlet]

explain

[fervent kite]

In what situation where a Rapid Deku clear eyes on you can you escape him without sacrificing your entire kit and praying?

[jaunty rune]

Right here

[fervent kite]

Air escape? Alpha

Ground?

Air alpha

Melee

Beta

[jaunty rune]

Literally the one I responded to

[craggy inlet]

LIKE I SAID HE SAID A LINE AND I SAID WHAT LINE

THIS GAME HAS NO LINE ITS AN UNBALANCED GAME

[jaunty rune]

And we are trying to balance it

Tf?

[twilit edge]

woah...idk about that one

[craggy inlet]

there are actually many ways to escape but ig u just give up whenever u fight them

[fervent kite]

You barely even have to aim the ground alpha too, it slashes through the air with a wide hitbox

[fervent kite]

Skill issue on your part if you let them escape then

Cause I sure don't

[spare kiln]

Ur too late for that reply 😭

[craggy inlet]

so its a skill issue if someone manages to get away from me

[fervent kite]

On Rapid Deku?

[tropic lantern]

Yes

[fervent kite]

Yeah

[twilit edge]

there is never a "too late" for bs

[tropic lantern]

You have almost full agency on rapid Deku over other peoples life

[craggy inlet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/brain-gojo-sukuna-zjyuSLHgxcd2rTncgM

are we actually serious bro

maybe its a skill issue on YOUR end if u cant escape a rapid deku

ur point is usless

[spare kiln]

Wait wait hold tf

Hachi

Hachi

[fervent kite]

Imagine having these in your kit and still being unable to lock someone with you

Holy skill issue

[craggy inlet]

please remove overdrive NOW

[fervent kite]

And you're on pc too? LMAOOOOOOOO

[craggy inlet]

hits once in a lifetime vro

[fervent kite]

Holy skill check

[spare kiln]

U hate the 500dp on alpha right but isn't it worse to let be lower cuz then 200 dmg before u get knocked

[tropic lantern]

Overdrive is great for following long mobility, armored allmight special action is a good example

Even if it will miss at the end

You used 0 resources to follow someone across the map

Nagant gamma bug was a good example too

[meager wharf]

Ight I’m here to drop some clips

[fervent kite]

Even if it misses it still stun locks enough that you can air melee into beta

[craggy inlet]

skill check urself vro if ur not able to hold off an ofa deku in every situation ur buns

[fervent kite]

So you still get a free knockdown

[fervent kite]

Gang I'm speaking from my perspective

[jaunty rune]

I’m every situation he can kill you btw

[fervent kite]

I main the guy

[jaunty rune]

Ground alpha is that strong

[spare kiln]

But if u miss aint u open to dmg by then cuz of end lag?

[craggy inlet]

ok then skill issue vro

[jaunty rune]

Along with his 3 different mobility options 2 of which being fast enough to attack inbetween

[fervent kite]

Skill issue on your part ig

[craggy inlet]

other way around

[spare kiln]

Can yall chill tf out ☠️

[fervent kite]

I'm chilling

[jaunty rune]

I think you might be hard stuck amateur gang…

[fervent kite]

Mfs are just delusional ig

[jaunty rune]

Ong

[craggy inlet]

whats ur rank on the leaderboard

let me know

[jaunty rune]

Whats yours?

[meager wharf]

Dude stop it

[craggy inlet]

ima get a screenshot

[meager wharf]

That means literally nothing

[fervent kite]

He thinks leaderboard numbers matter LMAO

[meager wharf]

You guys are being so cringe

That’s so bad

[jaunty rune]

Oh wow I play the game more than others

[craggy inlet]

he called me hard stuck ameteur

[jaunty rune]

Tf?

[meager wharf]

It’s just how much you spam queue 💀

[tropic lantern]

Yeah but if they’re running it typically means they want to be away from you so trading the damage is fine

[fervent kite]

Let me hop on training mofe real quick

[craggy inlet]

LMAOOOO HE STARTED IT

[meager wharf]

You act like it

[fervent kite]

Are you 12?

[jaunty rune]

You literally cant tell that rapidku is broken

[twilit edge]

wait are u saying its a skill issue if other people cant escape from rapid deku

[craggy inlet]

whats ur point here?

[meager wharf]

@craggy inlet tell me that this is okay

[tropic lantern]

That’s exactly what he’s saying

[meager wharf]

I just wanna hear that the loop is not a problem and doesn’t work on shields

[tropic lantern]

Wow that rapid Deku is really handsome I bet

[craggy inlet]

there already airbone vro

[meager wharf]

He’s an awful teammate but the clips work

[fervent kite]

He's gonna call those "isolated cases"

[jaunty rune]

This isn’t once in a while btw you can do this consistently

[twilit edge]

Yeah maybe there are levels to ignorance to stupidity and i though people with dragon ball goku pfps were

[spare kiln]

Ok everyone here's the reality our new management is a literal shi hole this mf will get buffed before they ever nerf him rapids are getting treated like gods by them

[twilit edge]

i dont wanna be mean but cmon are you really kidding me?

[jaunty rune]

I do this all the time and when I’m not ground alpha works just as well

[meager wharf]

Here’s another then

[craggy inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-frustrated-speed-over-it-speed-crash-out-speed-crashing-out-crash-out-gif-12382450018351543960

[meager wharf]

Only difference would be pre air melee Down power

[tulip blaze]

"If ur not able to hold off top 3 ur buns"

😭

[craggy inlet]

holy circumstances bro

[meager wharf]

We aren’t even talking about the fact that the character has 2 spikes

[fervent kite]

LMAO

I called it

[meager wharf]

??????

[twilit edge]

built in accel has access to wallrunner which can make you faster, SA for his whatever red boots and then his dashes and his two betas and the long ranged alphas that knock everytime???? uhmmmmmm are we talking about the same character???

[tropic lantern]

It’s a ledge and it isn’t even necessary anymore since you can do it on shield

[meager wharf]

You are so delusional

[craggy inlet]

and isint this before the nerf?

[meager wharf]

This is insane how biased you are

[meager wharf]

Literally said this

But works with 1 air melee

It was just more convenient to airmelee before on an edge

[tropic lantern]

You can do this now without the ledge…

[craggy inlet]

so if its before the nerf then why does it matter?

[meager wharf]

Lookup

[craggy inlet]

show me a clip

[tropic lantern]

You’re not real

[craggy inlet]

never seen this

[meager wharf]

Actually selectional reading

[fervent kite]

Skill issue tbh...

[spare kiln]

😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑

[twilit edge]

yknow ive been to newbie lobbies and im ngl its infuriating seeing ofa dekus dominate there because poor new players trying to learn the game then we have rapidku the low elo terrorist winning every ranked game getting to ace without learning the game properly 😭

[tropic lantern]

Bro can’t infinite on shields in 2026 💀

[meager wharf]

Noah, if we show you clips, you just move the goalpost, you’re pointless to engage with

[spare kiln]

Ok everyone here has a skill issue end of discussion this is going bo where

[tulip blaze]

No

😭

[craggy inlet]

ive never seen somebody do it so im obv gonna ask for a clip vro

[meager wharf]

Seen a clip of someone do what?

[spare kiln]

Bro anything to stop them from fighting

😭

[tulip blaze]

Ig dude

[meager wharf]

And what does showing you a clip even change?

[craggy inlet]

do the air melee thing without a ledge

[meager wharf]

You just jump wym?

Like what are we saying

[fervent kite]

"Not a rapid fire" btw

[spare kiln]

Can yall chill already its not that deep☠️

[tulip blaze]

Is it not just this?

[twilit edge]

thats very much possible sadly still and im pretty sure @jaunty rune has shown a ton no? in fact ill get u some myself

[meager wharf]

He said without a ledge

[tulip blaze]

They just ain't stopping

[meager wharf]

It literally happens in this clip

[fervent kite]

3 alphas in 2 seconds is not considered rapid fire btw

[jaunty rune]

These are a couple too btw

[spare kiln]

Buddy knowing the gane he will be buffed again the devs glaze rapids

[jaunty rune]

Not exactly hard to start at all

[tulip blaze]

100%

[meager wharf]

You see how relish clicks the jump button and is able to air melee

[tulip blaze]

Unless ur name is twice

[meager wharf]

Really cool tech

[craggy inlet]

this isint rapid fire like assault deku

[jaunty rune]

You are horrible

[spare kiln]

I wont be surprised if they pull out smoke screen does damage ☠️

[tropic lantern]

You are just god awful

[craggy inlet]

THAT WAS MY ENTIRE POINT

[tulip blaze]

Lmao

[craggy inlet]

ARE WE NOT READING

[jaunty rune]

It is so easy to fire 3 alphas before assku can

[craggy inlet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/brain-gojo-sukuna-zjyuSLHgxcd2rTncgM

[meager wharf]

Also saying “They’re in the air already” is also just an insanely pointless statement. Welcome to MHUR where only like 2 characters are bound to the ground but still have a jump button

[tropic lantern]

You can’t think of a reason why rapid Deku having an extremely similar fire rate to assault Deku is not okay?

[spare kiln]

They look like they wanna do it man the devs are hooligans

[meager wharf]

Faster with air alpha, yeah?

[twilit edge]

he can spam those its not like he uses like 4 charges each

[tulip blaze]

Deku now becomes Mario and when u have fajin active u can ground pound opponents into a jab loop

[twilit edge]

assault deku has something similar but it takes all his ammo and its a one time thing (before reload). Now imagine that but you can spam and rapidly shoot it with barely any repercussions

[spare kiln]

Lets just say hes s7 lore accurate

[meager wharf]

@runic jackal just to be clear, you’re cool with all of those clips?

No issue?

[spare kiln]

So yall gonna keep fighting like hooligans over a game or what

[meager wharf]

Void you gonna keep trying to interject on a conversation you have no relevant input on?

[craggy inlet]

alr yea know i mean what u mean but ive never been hit by that or seen it so i didint understand

[spare kiln]

He started it with me so technically am in it

😭

[meager wharf]

That’s because you’re in a chat with a bunch of 8 year olds who don’t know how to play the character

But in the right hands he’s the best character in the game

[craggy inlet]

what are you talking about?

[meager wharf]

OFA players

[spare kiln]

By right hands u mean mostly pc player

[meager wharf]

Are bad

[twilit edge]

^

[meager wharf]

There are a few good console ones

[spare kiln]

Very little from my experience in eu servers that is

[meager wharf]

But easier on m&k

[jaunty rune]

This is just a stupid argument imo

[fervent kite]

That's ok, because he has this

[craggy inlet]

isint just using the air melee loop better?

[jaunty rune]

Pc can do it better yes but that doesn’t mean console players are just never able to be good at a character Tf?

[spare kiln]

Bowes literally agreed lmao ☠️

[meager wharf]

It’s BETTER to use the character’s entire kit

[twilit edge]

Well no one said that...

[spare kiln]

I said mostly for a reason ☠️

[craggy inlet]

ye and the air alpha isint hard knock until 3

[meager wharf]

Because he doesn’t actually revolve around melee. He needs it for GS 5, but his alpha is prolly top 3

[twilit edge]

its just easier to be better at the character like...every other character PC players just have it easier than controller

[fervent kite]

Which he can easily land

[jaunty rune]

He doesn’t even need overdrive to do well

Hes already good without it

[meager wharf]

I think it has some merit, mostly with sensitivity and aim, but it’s not like a mutually exclusive thing

[spare kiln]

Cuz pc has the most accurate aiming known to man kind u need a TMR contoller to even get near that accuracy

[craggy inlet]

ok whats ur point ur entire point was that it had hard knock on first hit

[jaunty rune]

Or you can play switch and use gyro for the same aim

[fervent kite]

Hard knock on first hit with high fire rate

[jaunty rune]

Although switch is torture so I don’t recommend that

[spare kiln]

U cant use a gyro on xbox i tried it didn't end well

[fervent kite]

You said he doesn't have a fire rate as high as assault deku's

[jaunty rune]

Oh you can?

W

[twilit edge]

100 damage you can shoot earlier later plenty of time to shoot another back to back and its range (width) is very forgiving

[craggy inlet]

on his ground alpha

[fervent kite]

So I responded showing the he also has that option with also high damage

[spare kiln]

Am planning on a TMR contoller soon

[fervent kite]

He virtually has zero weaknesses

[meager wharf]

Obviously there’s the trade off of 500 DP

[jaunty rune]

Does that matter when it’s already 100 damage large af it travels fast af and has armor?

[meager wharf]

AND pierce

And bigger hitbox

[jaunty rune]

Oh and if you want you can cancel it with a roll (or a beta lol)

[meager wharf]

Most people in here that play the character are either just learning, or have been playing him and recognize him as being top 3ish minimum

[twilit edge]

Oh I mean i only play the character if i wanna just a relaxing brain off time from playing ibara ngl

[spare kiln]

I get bored of him occasionally and go to other dekus then come back ages later