Midoriya (OFA)

[jaunty rune]

And he can still rush you down easy

[icy dome]

He’s not #1

He’s S tier, but there’s characters that are better and more annoying

[zenith grail]

who

[icy dome]

Shinso and rapid Ochoko for example

[zenith grail]

😭

[icy dome]

Only time I dislike running into dekus is when they’re using trance blow
Otherwise they’re not all that

He’s not some unkillable god that can’t be beat

It’s rlly just a skill check on the community

[zenith grail]

because you face bad ones

Shinso isn't nearly as strong as rapidku

[icy dome]

Ah yes, been ace rank for the past few seasons since I came back and I only face bad ones…

[zenith grail]

Ochaco is maybe like top 5 or 6 after her nerfs

[zenith grail]

From the way you're telling me Shinso is stronger, yes that is the case.

[icy dome]

He definitely is
On console his aim assist makes it so you basically never miss
His beta is super good mobility especially for a red character
And he gets wayyyyy to many attempts to hit you with his alpha, and when he does it’s basically a guaranteed shield crack
The only ones your escaping are the bad players

[zenith grail]

You could go ask every Shinso main in this server and they would tell you Rapidku is better.

[icy dome]

With her car being as dumb as it is and her only needed to land one ability to get a whole combo off
Yes, she’s most definitely more annoying

[icy dome]

Deku isn’t unkillable bro
Put some effort into it and some thought behind it and you’ll kill them
Their movies are predictable
He has long start ups, flashy animations, and goes in lines
He doesn’t get the mobility from the change last season like other characters do

[zenith grail]

Has to stand still doing his combos (no armour).
Don't know anything about console aim assist because I play on PC.
Worse cooldowns now

Rapidku just beats shinso by just staying out of his range and alpha'ing or if he wants to risk it he can bait gamma or beta and use smoke to block los for alpha

[zenith grail]

Only move that actually has a long startup is alpha

Beta isn't all that, especially the quintuple smash.

[icy dome]

So we’re just taking the alpha to the face?

[zenith grail]

Shinso would take the alpha to the face because he wouldn't be able to get close yes.

[icy dome]

Beta is long enough that u have enough time do get something off
And gamma lock on they’re especially still
Not to mention when gamma is gone

[icy dome]

In very specific situations where he positioned himself poorly sure
But that’s player to player and I’d hope most of them wouldn’t end up there

[native condor]

But we did though

[zenith grail]

If we rated characters on that stat then Rapid Mirio would be #1.
I can kill rapid dekus, I've done it before, but an actually half decent rapid deku who isn't spamming overdrive or melee 24/7 will win over 99% of characters in the game unless it's a really bad matchup like a momo or tech dabi in a building.
He has pretty good mobility who cares.

[native condor]

I simply was a assault all might main back then so I simply gamma’d his beta everytime

Prime hawks had to fear all might

[zenith grail]

Only if the rapidku is doing it in your face, in which case they aren't very smart or good.
Again, gamma spamming means idiot rapidku.

[native condor]

OFA deku more annoying

[icy dome]

Gamma spamming dekus are the funniest
They hit that overdrive over and over
Players like that who let the character play the game for them are hilarious

[zenith grail]

Not really sure what you mean here, If Shinso takes cover like I assume is what you mean, then Rapidku just moves further back or in the air to alpha more or uses smoke as well.

[icy dome]

Hawks got so overly gutted
Do whatever u want to him, but reducing his special action time was a horrible decision

[zenith grail]

Shinso is good but he's too simple and kinda easy to predict.

Which works for and against him

I still think he needs further nerfs but Rapidku just has way more going for him.

[icy dome]

Rapid hawks??

Ohhhh Shinso

Nvm

[icy dome]

In certain situations your not wrong
But if your doing this then you pretty much need to have your full attention on the Shinso, and you can’t always do that
If your fighting someone else and he comes for the 3rd party of if he has a team

[icy dome]

How would u recommend nerfing him then

[icy dome]

Personally
I’d reduce the alpha range
And increase the gamma consumed when using the lock on
Maybe touch the melee a little more, but it’s so essential for his kit doing to much could do a lot of damage
Imo smoke screen needs buffed
It’s so obvious where a Deku is when you see the cloud, u can’t hide in it
It’s only useful when your blocking a enemies fov when your running
Maybe increase the percentage used when using it and increase the overall size of the cloud

[spare kiln]

@icy dome they seriously wanna nerf him more?

[icy dome]

As long as they don’t gut him 💀

I’ll play Deku no matter what, so it doesn’t change much for me

[spare kiln]

Mate he was nerfed enough if yall cant kill him get skill

[icy dome]

I’m not the one complaining 🙌🏽

[spare kiln]

I here killing him with stick drift using assault deku with practically no aim

[icy dome]

😂

[spare kiln]

Lemme guess shinso mains?

[icy dome]

That is the question isn’t it

I’d rather fight rapid Deku all day over Shinso

[spare kiln]

I rather fight 3 Ochakos

I hunt Ochakos for a living btw

They start popping thier pants when they hear overdrive

[icy dome]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[spare kiln]

@icy dome ENJOY ME whooping people the first clip is what i mean by hunting urarakas

[icy dome]

Nice clip

Even if Deku is strong he’s just so fun
He feels like final arc Deku and that’s what I love about him

[zenith grail]

ground alpha range and dmg (no reason that ground should be doing 100+)
reduce air melee tracking heavily (that is insta lock on)

and add more gauge use from overdrive

and sure idm buffing smokescreen just a bit aoe wise

[zenith grail]

He got his melee combos neutered, this was not the only thing making him broken lol

also I play Nejire, Yafo and Aizawa.

Good for you if you can kill dumb rapidku's, I've killed my fair share as Nejire, doesn't make an actually good one or the character itself any less broken

[spare kiln]

Ty

[spare kiln]

Hes fine as he is any more nerfs will make him yellow deku lvl

Melee is fine 142dmg per beta is fine gamma doing 160 is fine

Alpha is meant to be a knock down move

If you find it so "ez" to kill him stop whining about it

I also play shoto other deku version some nejire Ochako

I kill him just fine

[zenith grail]

Then you're facing bad deku's?

Especially as Nejire lol

I also didn't say anything about the beta or gamma dmg and I didn't say it was easy to kill him

Please actually respond to my points if you're going to ping me and not put words in my mouth

[spare kiln]

Hes ez to kill yall cant see hwo predictable this man is😭

99% he will dash to you

[zenith grail]

1v1?

[spare kiln]

Am in cross play am facing pc mfs

[zenith grail]

Lol

Kinda expected

anyway yeah like I said, he's predictable because 90% of rapidku's want to overdrive and melee spam

face one who knows their alpha exists

and you're unlikely to actually win

[spare kiln]

I did that today

I locked another rapid deku in zone

[zenith grail]

I mean yeah I wouldn't say he's unkillable but against a really good one you're not going to win

purely if we put the best rapidku against the best whatever 2nd character you think exists

out in the open

the rapidku will win most of the time

imo

[spare kiln]

Alpha needs justice lol

[spare kiln]

Now thats just a skilled player

[zenith grail]

My point was more about equalizing the skill levels of the players

if you put a really bad player on rapidku vs a good and experienced one on nejire or shinso

yeah the latter probably have a way better chance

[spare kiln]

They just can't wait for the right moment

Zero patience span

[zenith grail]

well just gotta know who you can do it too

[spare kiln]

Never ever wish for that in battle royals never happening 😭

[zenith grail]

either shoto or dabi it's pretty hard/impossible to get close consistently

[spare kiln]

If u want fairness play titanfall 2 its mostly fair

[zenith grail]

sweaty clan player on rapidku

vs good-great solo queue mfs on the other teams

rapidku will win

thats a more realistic scenario

[spare kiln]

I meant a sweaty one once well cant beat him head to head so i just baited him into a zone and locked him with alpha until he died

What else was i supposed to do?

[jaunty rune]

Yeah rapidku isnt top one

Hes still real high but not the best in the game

That goes to techrio

[simple cosmos]

i absolutely agree cuz the mf is broken

and he does counter rapid deku easily especially now

[jaunty rune]

the fact he has a great dps great movement and is constantly permeating is stupid

you should not be hitting him

[simple cosmos]

exactly and we don’t wanna talk about counter cuz that right there is a problem its self

not saying its hard to avoid it but still it’s a whole mind game with that

[fringe blade]

Best Ofa deku tuning

[icy dome]

This is reasonable

I agree his alpha is overtuned
But adding more onto his mobility and smoke screen are nice compensations

[zenith grail]

no his mobility is fine

I meant it taking more gauge to use overdrive

[icy dome]

Oh
Eh, sure
He has rlly good quick mobility
But compared to the other rapids with the movement change he doesn’t rlly compare to them

[icy dome]

I agree

[fringe blade]

Best Ofa deku tuning

[tropic lantern]

Embrittlement + card dupe
Perception + Willpower/Crushing PU

[fringe blade]

What skin ? I only have leather style and the Ofa assist

[tropic lantern]

Those two

[fringe blade]

Thx since I never tuned him what do I put on those slots

[tropic lantern]

This is what I'm running

you can swap the run speed to gp, don't think it's actually doing much, just wanted to see

[fringe blade]

Thx

Any combos?

You got a build for willpower and perception

[tropic lantern]

yeah one sec

[tropic lantern]

There's a combo somewhere above that's consistent

Pretty much the only one rn

[hybrid sage]

do deku cobos exist?

every combo video i see on youtube is old and pached so they dont work anymore

[craggy inlet]

it works sometimes for me

ik how to do it but im gatekeeping

if it gets out its gonna get nerfed

[hybrid sage]

send me perssonal

[craggy inlet]

no

[calm marlin]

real

[lean oyster]

is a9 b9 g9 the best?

Also should u be using beta in places when u can use gamma tracking?

[tropic lantern]

I like upgrading gamma a bit early but yeah alpha is priority

[tropic lantern]

Can you clarify a bit? If someone is in range for a beta it’s almost always priority over gamma

Exception being if someone’s in the sky and gamma is guaranteed because you can alpha while they’re spiking to the ground

[lean oyster]

No you explained perfectly thank you

[calm marlin]

overdrivu

[vast helm]

It’s hard to love y’all sometimes fr. 😫

[vivid bison]

If the entire universe wasn't on you, you cldve dealt with that easily tbf

[vast helm]

Fr, whenever I play kendo it feels like the whole lobby always lookin at me.

[tropic lantern]

We don’t claim any trance blow Dekus

[icy dome]

This

I feel like there’s a notable difference between normal dekus and trance blow dekus

[native condor]

I’ll never understand bashing people because they don’t want to play a character the way you want them to 💔

[formal brook]

https://tenor.com/view/deku1254-deku-vigilante-deku-gif-27390482

[tropic lantern]

Some things are really unfun for people to go against

That’s really it

[zenith grail]

needing to play ofa deku with trance blow is like needing to play nurse in dead by daylight with noed pre special attack nerf

its overkill and shows a lack of skill on your part

[serene holly]

Those were some wacky times

[zenith grail]

and she's still the best killer in the game without a doubt

[serene holly]

100%

[zenith grail]

remember when they nerfed awakened awareness for her

[serene holly]

Yeah that was really funny

[zenith grail]

but they never actually said it was her

they should really just kit overhaul her at some point lol

[serene holly]

If they don't want her to be the best anymore than yeah they have to

[native condor]

At the end of the day it’s just a game and they can play the game how they want I don’t know why people feel obligated to dictate how someone plays the game nowadays

(I admit it’s annoying but free will exists) 😅

[zenith grail]

No one's dictating and you've moved on from your original argument now

in which you noted it was bashing people not dictating

[native condor]

Yeah they bash and tell them how to play the game

They do it simultaneously

[zenith grail]

Who here is demanding OFA Dekus not play with trance blow?

[native condor]

Isn’t that what the argument is for? but anyway I realize I’m being a hypocrite for saying you shouldn’t bash them everybody got free will so idrc anymore ✌️

[zenith grail]

People are bashing them and think they're unskilled players but like

everyone is pretty aware you can't force anyone to do anything

if you could I would have made shinso and iida's go extinct by now

[formal brook]

I keep getting baited im so close to embrittlememt

[icy dome]

I just hope they nerf trance blow is all

I don’t mind dekus

But dekus running that tunnjng make the game miserable to play

Shinso atleast has to put a decent amount of effort into pulling off his gamma to get that effect
Deku, it doesn’t take a lot and value is wayyyyy more than it should be

[spare kiln]

Yall when using gamma lock on is there a different between holding it until the lock appears and holding it until it shots it self after a while?

@icy dome

[icy dome]

Not to my knowledge

Sometimes I use it tho and the hit misses which is super annoying

[spare kiln]

So how long i hold the charge doesn't really matter?

[icy dome]

I wouldn’t think so

I’ve never noticed anyway

[spare kiln]

Cuz i dont fully charge till last second i have to let it go fast so they dont6go out of range

[icy dome]

Ya
Idk the difference
Maybe there is one and I’m just a bot

[tropic lantern]

Have not noticed one either

[vivid bison]

I tht you tpd him to a diff map at first 😭

[hexed tendon]

https://vxtwitter.com/MqrbuL/status/1993734865536319501

なるせ (@MqrbuL)

一応青デク 格闘回避キャンセルぶち込んだらまだ コンボ繋がっちゃうにょ〜ん👼👼👼👼

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how tf is this done 😭

i cant even find what this tech is called

[native drift]

real

[jaunty rune]

The perfect dodge cancel I believe

[hexed tendon]

is it like frame perfect?

[jaunty rune]

It’s pretty tight yeah

I’m not great at it

[tropic lantern]

It’s very difficult

More consistent in lobbies than training in my experience

Also it only started happening 2 days ago for me, not since the day of the patch, not sure why

[tropic lantern]

nvm it's an Allmight/AFO thing

Doesn't work on the small characters

[jaunty rune]

It’s been a thing since launch

[serene holly]

#1420328186213826691 message

It’s more than just those two

[tropic lantern]

oh thanks

only starting playing 3 weeks ago so I wasn't there for that

Really good to know

[fervent kite]

Wait what's that crater in USJ? I've never noticed that

[icy dome]

I stg that isn’t part of the map 😭

I’ve never seen that before

[zenith grail]

nintendo switch things

flat ground is too much for it to handle

probably

[jaunty rune]

I assume he just glitched himself under with kuro

[opal rampart]

I have got to get this down

[hexed tendon]

btw is there somewhere i can find the order of inputs needed for it?

[jaunty rune]

You just dodge at the right time

[serene holly]

#1420328186213826691 message

[spare kiln]

When was the last time this game was fair

[hexed tendon]

Thank you

[tardy minnow]

Aren't these just the inputs for the old loop before the nerf?

[serene holly]

It's supposed to be for the Perfect Dodge Roll Cancel

[tardy minnow]

Ah

I wonder if it's easier to pull off on PC since there is less input delay

Higher FPS and all

[hexed tendon]

oh is that just a thing?

is console stuck to 30 fps or something

[tardy minnow]

60 but higher FPS basically means less input delay in general

[hexed tendon]

ah ok

is there any documentation of who can and cant do perfect cancels and how easy it is for them

i figured out hado's melee combo tech after a bit and found out her's is one of the easier ones

[tropic lantern]

The "perfect" cancel timing on #1420328186213826691 message those characters is pretty generous

More consistent than going for a loop after the patch

[calm marlin]

||all i can say that ofa deku should be having his red chain with alpha to make look carnage deku ||

[tardy minnow]

So from my understanding:

1. Do the melee combo up until the first/second uppercut
2. Buffer the dodge roll while doing said melee combo
3. Sprint jump into aerial melee attack

@tropic lantern Can you confirm this is the precise instructions? At least for OFA Deku

[icy dome]

Hopefully carnage Deku gets similar treatment to the upcoming Shigi
New skill set and costume added that can be used with base OFA Deku
But I will keep praying that the version of Shigi with the skin around his waists becomes a whole new character

[calm marlin]

yep

[tropic lantern]

I'll hop into training and send a clip in a little

[tardy minnow]

Much appreciated. Trying to see how feasible this is on console at lower FPS but also want to make sure I'm doing the correct inputs in order as well. Every person I've seen do it is on PC haha

[tropic lantern]

and explain the clips inputs

gotcha, should be doable

[hexed tendon]

yeah same im not fully sure of the order of inputs

[tropic lantern]

It looks weird but you don't actually press your jump ever

I'm guessing you roll off the model and it gives you an air melee or something

[hexed tendon]

just to clarify, its not done like other characters' melee cancel tech right?

hado doesnt need a dodge she just needs specific timing on the button itself

[tropic lantern]

I literally only play OFA deku so I couldn't tell you

[hexed tendon]

ah

[tropic lantern]

but the way I'm doing it, it's a dodge roll at an exact time of your melee chain

[tropic lantern]

so what I do to this Deku and what I do to this AFO are the exact same inputs

It's basically just a matter of pressing your dodge as soon as your 2nd uppercut will go off

Could've continued the chain on the AFO but I'm bad and haven't practiced that

for whatever reason you jump roll off certain characters lol

[tardy minnow]

What the heck, that is so strange that the game does that

Do you buffer your dodge roll or do you just press it after the 2nd uppercut?

[tropic lantern]

Feels like it's basically at the same time as your 2nd uppercut

If I mess up a loop it’s by rolling too early and cancelling my 2nd uppercut if that gives you an idea for the timing

So no buffering

[tardy minnow]

Got it. I'll practice it and see if I can pull it off consistently on the PS4/PS5 version. Thanks alot for the insight

Thought the inputs were more complex haha

[tropic lantern]

Yeah it looks incredibly strange lol

[lucid storm]

i've been at this for a hour, got nothing

how do you bufffer a dodge roll?

[lucid storm]

i did it.

[nimble citrus]

HOW BROOO

PLEASE TELL ME

[lucid storm]

I got you

[nimble citrus]

i learned how too i believe

you roll like right before the 2nd uppercut right

@glossy fulcrum

[nimble citrus]

actually uh nevermind i dont got it i hit it one time do you know how ?

[lucid storm]

lol

spend time to perfect rolling before it,
and you'll be great at it

[nimble citrus]

alr ima try

[nimble citrus]

soo i learned the perfect rolling but i dont know how you guys stay in the same place

[lucid storm]

just roll forward

[nimble citrus]

like you say melee out of the roll but how

[nimble citrus]

yeah i did that

how did you do that air melee

[tropic lantern]

if you're not staying in the same place then it's not the perfect timing

or you're doing it on a character that doesn't give you the air melee

[lucid storm]

i can do it constantly

[nimble citrus]

do you know how u can cancel it then? cuz i can hit the og combo now but im having trouble with canceling it

i just did it

[fringe blade]

Lvl up order?

[fringe blade]

Build?

[native condor]

He has electrification + perception

Look for a special slot purple lvl 10 and blue level 11 costume

[fringe blade]

It’s leather style I think

[tropic lantern]

A > B = G

[fringe blade]

?

[tropic lantern]

are you not asking for the order of skills?

[serene holly]

They're saying to do alpha first and then beta and gamma is preference on what you want to level before the other one

[fringe blade]

Oh max alpha first then max beta

[serene holly]

If you want yeah you can also max gamma before beta

[fringe blade]

What you think

[serene holly]

I think gamma should be maxed first so you don't have to worry about it running out as much and then max alpha but if you wanna max alpha first I think you should do gamma after alpha

[fringe blade]

I see what build do you use?

[serene holly]

Final Battle Ver. base with Embrittlement and Card Duplication

[fringe blade]

What you think about perception and will power

[serene holly]

Good build Perception lets him track easier and Willpower makes him even harder to kill

[fringe blade]

I use the assist gear combat

[serene holly]

That outfit can work yeah

Tune to your play style not to meta is what I always say

Which is why I'm playing frog with Embrittlement and Acceleration because it's too fun

[fringe blade]

What the meta build for it

[serene holly]

I'd say Embrittlement and Card Duplication because Iron Fist is kina mid and the faster levels from Card Duplication makes him super annoying really quick

[fringe blade]

I don’t have the Ofa skin

[fringe blade]

This build

[serene holly]

Yeah that build is good. I'd replace a few of the small slots but otherwise it's good

[fringe blade]

Which ones

[serene holly]

Regular All For One -> Tech Dabi

Assault All Might -> Assault Endeavor

Kurogiri -> Chisaki

Strike Bakugo -> Present Mic/Endeavor

[fringe blade]

I don’t have endeavor data and I didn’t want to waste chiasaki data and bakugo i wanted to focus on alpha dmg

[serene holly]

I'd still do those two since it's a damage buff on EVERYTHING once they're on HP or GP

Basically a constant damage buff

[fringe blade]

I put dabi on and I’m trying to get endeavor tuning

[spare kiln]

https://youtube.com/shorts/5wub_YXZi54?si=Dmaaab3lpYeDMgS3

Yall thought ur safe?

[hot sphinx]

6 days ago

[nimble citrus]

The impossible combo

[serene holly]

Looks like you'd need to abuse a ledge to do that

[vivid bison]

Ledge cancels are cool

[serene holly]

True

[nimble citrus]

BRO PLEASE PEOPLE I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO FIT IN THE AIR MELEE AFTER DEKUS 2ND UPPERCUT I CAN DO HIS OLD INF COMBO JUST NOT THE AIR MELEE

[calm marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-spider-man-web-of-shadows-depressed-sad-gif-16524395

[lucid storm]

i did ts

[nimble citrus]

YEAH CUZ YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT

[hexed tendon]

the one he did in the video was done because he ledge cancelled he combo, but the one people do on flat ground is character dependent

and its because when you roll directly at them for the perfect roll cancel, it messes with some collision and forces you into the air

[nimble citrus]

Yhis

[nimble citrus]

This video doesn't need the ground

[hexed tendon]

Yeah thats a character specific tech i believe

[nimble citrus]

Would u happen to know it

[hot sphinx]

so embrittle card dupe?

Or is it embrittlement and iron fist

[humble night]

That's what I use

[hot sphinx]

wats the costume setup?

[hot sphinx]

wats your level up order'

[serene holly]

I’ll send in a bit

[hot sphinx]

tyvmmm so do you sugg this over the other setup

[serene holly]

What's the other set up?

Embrittlement and Iron Fist?

[humble night]

11 and 10

[loud smelt]

I think deku needs a biggest nerf the biggest nerf anyone will ever see bigger then rapid hawks bigger the twice bigger the nejire plz and thx u

[tropic lantern]

D1 Deku hater, love the energy

[lean oyster]

is trance blow + embrittlement the way to go now since he can't do melee combos anymore?? it's good for camping wakeups

[spare kiln]

Never happening

[spare kiln]

Probably

[zenith grail]

if it happened to hawks it'll happen to him

even if it takes 10 seasons

[spare kiln]

Hes never getting nerfed look at red deku

Been the same for ages

[zenith grail]

red deku got nerfed and was also never as powerful as ofa deku

[loud smelt]

And u often don't see a lot of strike deku or assault deku just the ofa Deku mostly u rarely see them just ofa deku is annoying

[grand garnet]

I agree, Strike Deku isn’t really a problem. I’ve rarely seen him, and his nerf has made him less popular. But right now, Rapid Deku is a serious problem. He’s way too annoying to be in the game currently; he needs a nerf.

[loud smelt]

Give him the hawks treatment

[zenith grail]

nah strike deku is still a problem with his two tap knock 110 alpha but

no one plays him and those who do only like 20% have the aim to actually make you realise how disgusting he is

ofa deku is pretty easy and you see him a lot

but ofa deku is still ofc better either way

[grand garnet]

Not really I've never had a problem with him it's mostly rapid deku I struggle with playing against

[loud smelt]

Ya red deku is not a problem to me to just rapid deku needs to get nerfed hard

[serene holly]

I am the 80% of people who play him with bad aim 😔

[loud smelt]

Dont worry I got stormtrooper aim sometimes

[serene holly]

🤝

[frigid cave]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-sad-sad-flight-flight-frown-whatchu-mean-speed-gif-16301558380807666913

Im good at aiming but im on console if that devalued me

[spare kiln]

He got nerfed and are how long on on his alpha anf his beta fall speed hes still busted

If yall that bad at killing rapid deku get skill am killing hin with red deku and assault deku over here

[zenith grail]

you're facing bad rapidkus bro

like yeah i can kill a armoured allmight with overhaul

doesnt make all might bad or overhaul s tier

[spare kiln]

Sure buddy all my lobbies are pc sweats ☠️ yall just need to learn what dodge button is onky thing it cant dodge is overdrive lock on

Infact u can dodge the lock on if you have enough momentum

[zenith grail]

buddy a rapidku can just time your dodge so he can hit his alpha lmao

I hate people who think "just dodge/roll" is a good argument to anything

[spare kiln]

Ur playing the slowest three characters of all time and you expect to beat a rapid ☠️

[zenith grail]

if the move isn't something like tech shiggy's alpha

[zenith grail]

I don't play overhaul, that was an example

or well I do sometimes but not often

[spare kiln]

Aizawa aint fast nor is nejire

And kurogiri isn't good in 1v1 battles

[zenith grail]

I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about

besides that last part

[spare kiln]

Look at ur roles

☠️

[zenith grail]

literally both faster than yellow deku lol

[spare kiln]

Not rapid deku ☠️

[zenith grail]

lets 1v1 later

I'll go rapidku

[spare kiln]

You can never win against a rapid using a slow characters unless ur like the assault deku mains with god lvl aim

[spare kiln]

Am in college outside the city for 3 month

[zenith grail]

lol alright then this argument will go nowhere

[spare kiln]

What do you want me to do leave my major to 1v1 your ahh?

[zenith grail]

you spend your free time ragebaiting instead?

[spare kiln]

Get skill stop whining we had way mor broken charters and all of us adapted

[spare kiln]

I dont have free time☠️

[zenith grail]

then this makes you doubly sad rn

[spare kiln]

Sure says the person with an emo looking pfp

[zenith grail]

there literally isnt lol

armoured allmight is the only contender

I adapted too

[spare kiln]

Yafo assault endeavor one shotting half the cast

[zenith grail]

a good rapidku will still beat you most times unless you're playing certain characters

[spare kiln]

Good adapt to deku next

[zenith grail]

assault endeavour lmaoo

like yeah he has good damage and a beta stunn but thats about all he has

[spare kiln]

His gamma and beta alone melts hp

[zenith grail]

if you're losing to him in 1v1s I'd quit out of shame

[spare kiln]

I dont doesn't change fact he melts hp if hit

Want to win against rapid deku stop using slow characters they cant win

Yall seem to only whin about deku skills first it was red deku now this

Like whin about someone else already

[zenith grail]

nah

your favourite character shouldn't be op because you like him and you beat some noobs once

[spare kiln]

Ragebait ahh

[zenith grail]

like yeah you play ace ranked pc lobbies, cool, so do i

I see golds and experts matched up

and also, getting to ace is not that hard, at all

so the skill level of these lobbies are generally harder but for all the players it dubious at best

[spare kiln]

Then stop whining ☠️

This game will die to all justice before they nerf him

[zenith grail]

People are allowed to complain about a character

you are the one whining about people whining

quite redundant

[spare kiln]

Haven't you realised they milking players for money lately

[spare kiln]

I don't see my self whining about them i just deal with ☠️

[zenith grail]

you are whining right now

[spare kiln]

About ur whining not about a fictional ahh character

If u want fairness mhur aint that game

[zenith grail]

so now you've given up pretending he's not op?

[spare kiln]

Hes not 😂 yall just cnat play

[zenith grail]

lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1420328186213826691/1423042328595005511/2F85231.MP4?ex=693144b1&is=692ff331&hm=378d0ae6aa78e7a8c855d6382e82b90a8bb797e645e5c5827a361eabc95978d3&

[spare kiln]

Its black

Want a video record proof of it being black?

[zenith grail]

if this doesn't work then we can just stop here

[spare kiln]

@zenith grail so what am i watching a black screen?

[zenith grail]

might just do that anyway i cba lol

[spare kiln]

So your proof is broken and you stop the argument

[zenith grail]

there is no proof dude

this is a subjective argument

you either think he's broken or he isn't

you can be delusional all you want

what I had was just a clip of me gamma tracking a red kendo 3 miles away

and no thats not an invitation for you to yap about how thats a skill issue on her part lol

[spare kiln]

Yuh that's the average range on tracking moves in this game

And the gamma is meant to be a track move why would they delete the move it self

☠️

[zenith grail]

A tracking move should not move 30 feet across the map to kill someone, sorry that you feel like you need a crutch to win with it but it's how it is.

[spare kiln]

You tried to run away as kuro didn't you

[spare kiln]

Lol mine never locks on unless am in a 3 meter range

[zenith grail]

The video is me doing it to a strike kendo 😭

[spare kiln]

No for the mega long range i mean u need kuro

[zenith grail]

you're so desperate to paint me as losing to OFA deku you think an OFA Deku player could not criticise this character themselves

I like armoured allmight but I can say he needs to be nerfed stat lmao

[spare kiln]

I have him dont really use him tho

[zenith grail]

If you can't do that for a character you play you shouldn't be discussing balance

[zenith grail]

the range was pretty far on what I got off on the kendo

[spare kiln]

The only nerf blue deku need is gamma lock not flying across the map if you tp

[zenith grail]

nah his air melee also not needs to lock on from 7 feet away

and his ground alpha also needs to be either lowered in damage or make it a 2 knock

then I'm fine with him

his gamma isn't that big of a problem for me but it's a pretty skillless move

[spare kiln]

Tf is ur fps mine never locks on unless 3 meter difference or less

[zenith grail]

whatever it tops out at

I've got mine on unlimited

[spare kiln]

U pc?

[zenith grail]

yes

[spare kiln]

Cuz high fps could be the issue just like the aim assit issue

Can u try a game but cap ur fps to 60?

Tell me the range after

Cuz if its an fps thing you should report it

[zenith grail]

dont think fps effects lock on range

i'll try in training mode

[spare kiln]

It affected aim assist so its not something surprising atp

[zenith grail]

Yeah but that was tracking the mouse to your enemy

Both his melees have lock on

Just like strike kendo and Yafo’s ground melee

and that’s fine

just his should be a bit neutered compared to those two and his air melee is a bit egregious

the main point anyway is lock on distance not that they have lock on

[vivid bison]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361375148380524580/1406419773885255882/image0.gif

Everytime I come to this channel it's a bunch of argumentative yap

[calm marlin]

you should see they wanna hard nerf on ofa deku submit channel

[zenith grail]

you are welcome to contribute

to the yap or anything else otherwise

[vivid bison]

I just wanna find out how people get so good on this guy

[zenith grail]

use alpha a lot

use gamma if they wakeup in the air

realise air melee will track from californa to washington

[jaunty rune]

It doesn’t gamma tracking remains the same

[zenith grail]

we were talking about the air melee lock on

[jaunty rune]

Oh

Yeah that’s unaffected aswell

[zenith grail]

yeah is what i woulda thought too

[jaunty rune]

Rn the only thing that fps changes is if you can melee loop or not

It’s a lot more situational now but switch cannot loop whereas anything better than a toaster can

[fervent kite]

Funny thing is, only the dash does that

The actual lock-on can be knocked off easily

But if he does get to fire he'll follow you wherever

[native condor]

Everybody complaining about ofa deku when tech shiggy casually abuses him

[tropic lantern]

You should not be getting abused by tech shiggy

Are you not using alphas?

[native condor]

If you go in for a m1 a good shiggy will do the roll alpha tech and inf combo

I did it to a lot of dekus

[tropic lantern]

Don’t melee him lmao

Character has 0 ways to hit you

If he alphas you get free damage

[native condor]

Your alpha keeps you grounded not hard to roll into beta

Or roll closer to him and alpha

[tropic lantern]

OFA Deku alpha does not keep you grounded

And also it has a ton of range even if you do wanna go for the grounded alpha

[native condor]

Are you taking about jump alpha?

[tropic lantern]

Either works

[native condor]

I can show you that tech shiggy counters rapid deku

[tropic lantern]

The character does nothing into rapid Deku

If the Deku decides to play on top of you and on the floor that’s great

But tech shiggy has no aerial game

And no range that isn’t the most dodgable thing in the game

[zenith grail]

😭 shiggy wishes

like yeah oh jeez he has a 350 dmg combo

you can just fight an alpha war and win

[proper kite]

I'm probably not the first to ask this, but would it be better if skill Y could have a side effect? ​​Like, according to canon, if the skill wears off and goes on cooldown, Deku himself will be immobilized for a while.

[jaunty rune]

He doesn’t btw

[serene holly]

Yeah the only thing a Tech Shiggy can do against a One For All Deku is bait out a laggy beta and use his own beta or alpha to punish end lag or roll his gamma lock on and punish him that way

A good One For All Deku will be using their own roll alpha tech to cancel alpha if they need to but One For All Deku's alpha comes out way faster so he just wins the alpha war

If Deku gets close he's gonna get a Tech Shiggy beta to the face or an alpha combo so just use alpha

[tropic lantern]

I already feel like a victim if I accidentally let gearshift run out

They captured the canon of the ability perfectly

[jaunty rune]

You can have it constantly active and it already has a pretty short cooldown for what it does I think it’s fine giving it a burnout

[fervent kite]

The thing is Gearshift is literally his whole gimmick, the other 2 moves are basically crutches so he isn't a 1 quirk wonder

Take that off of him and you get Rapid Hawks 2

It already has some unexpected restrictions like not reloading even if you touch a wall, not activating on downed opponents

[fringe abyss]

Honestly they should rework him, give him blackwhip as his alpha, but no grabbing in gearshift make so he has a variety of play styles since he has NINE quirks. Not just the base enhancements of one for all (occasionally blackwhip) ot gearshift

Then again this is Byking

Never gonna happen

[fervent kite]

Most of his quirks are already represented in the game tho, the thing is they aren't offensive tools you can make special moves out of but he's gonna get a quirkset eventually anyways

The reason the quirks shine is that they're all support/inoffensive quirks in the hands of a guy that is crazy enough to use them, so his moves being 90% base OFA with a stacked quirk behind them is lore accurate

The only quirk that isn't present at all is Danger Sense, it's only in quotes

[fringe abyss]

It could be a qss gamma

[stuck citrus]

Match up tierlist for ofa Midoriya please correct me if I’m wrong

[fervent kite]

Sounds about right

[vivid bison]

I don't think tamaki or compress is free

And I think iida and rapidga is prob neutral

Also I think yellow Kiri is still fodder for him

Or at least not an insta loss

[stuck citrus]

Compress while he can run deku’s gamma quite literally makes it almost a bad idea 💀

Tamaki I could maybe agree with

[tropic lantern]

We can not be losing to Tech Dabi

[vivid bison]

Compress just has to land his alphas, they stun on GP and there isn't much to prevent that. He can also contest rapidku's melees a bit

[vivid bison]

Lmao I just saw that

[stuck citrus]

The main thing tech dabi shuts down is deku’s ability to melee or use gamma that’s about it

[zenith grail]

armoured allmight is stunning you mid melee combo and beta'ing you

bro is not free

[tropic lantern]

He just trades better with alphas/drones too

[loud smelt]

Nope u did good

[whole root]

Is ts a new tech👀

[fervent kite]

And where is the "new tech"?

[spare kiln]

The first row is op

[icy dome]

There’s pretty much no black whip representation
But I’m assuming that’s because we’ll eventually get a tech Shigi situation
We’ll get a quirk set representing carnage Deku and a skin to go with him

But rlly, rapid Deku imo represents dekus final form very very well

They rlly couldn’t have done much better

[fervent kite]

Blackchain and yellow deku gamma

[fringe abyss]

I think its cause most (not all) dekus are spamming gamma lock on or trying to go in for melee loops asap and dabi can just wittle em down with betas or hit with gamma (thats what I've done, tech dabi was my first main.) dabi is good at countering must melee characters especially if they try writing him off and hold w

[icy dome]

I’m mainly talking about with OFA Deku

I’m not inclined to count his finisher as true representation for black whip
It was such a vital part for him in his final battle, I hope we eventually get a skill set that uses it more

[stuck citrus]

?

[twilit edge]

hey bluekus be honest with me. Do you ever think to use your alphas

[jaunty rune]

Ye

[fringe abyss]

A ton

Its my fight opener I save gear shift at max to disengage & betas to stop rezes or just mobility

Honestly better question do we use smokescreen

[twilit edge]

So how come I see loads of these bluekus forgetting alpha exists

When alphas are the solution

[fringe abyss]

they are bad

if I am out of beta. I alpha

if I am out of everything gamma lock on

people learned to punish bluekus via not letting him be alone

[twilit edge]

We lost a match because my blueku didnt want to use his alphas

[twilit edge]

I had tons of rainbows and kept pinging and his alpha was lvl 2 :i

They were fighting a yellow deku with space hop and he couldnt reach him

and it was a 3v1.....

[fringe abyss]

GANG WHY, HE WOULD'VE HAD A CHANCE AT WINNING THAT

[twilit edge]

I was momo and I was providing them team heals of the world

[fringe abyss]

The knock from grounded alpha alone gives him breathing room

[twilit edge]

And sending my cannons

they found a way to lose

[fringe abyss]

Then he can ground alpha smokescreen and hide for a bit

[twilit edge]

exactly

[fringe abyss]

Pop back out

[twilit edge]

he didnt do any of that

he just rushed in stupidly

and thought hed win

i even had a purple shiggy on my side

and they still lost

[fringe abyss]

Probably thought about it cause of being a 'meta character'

[twilit edge]

but yeah it was a very winnable game

but blueku didnt wanna use his alphas

and he was ignoring my pings

for free rainbows and blues

[fringe abyss]

Bro ignored a third of his kit

[fervent kite]

This is why you keep alpha at 4 at least

[fringe abyss]

Exactly

I lowkey get mine to seven first then start leveling beta

[orchid basalt]

wouldn't a gamma into melee into beta work?

[tropic lantern]

Gamma into melee is inconsistent but if you get the melee it does work

Also gamma lock on against an assault Deku will get you killed

[fervent kite]

Not with a space hop deku shooting you down, you'll take too much damage trying to approach and risk getting killed by either him or his team

Better off playing it safe by taking him off of the air with alphas and then approach

[orchid basalt]

oh on a 3v3

yeah then

either A. spam dodge roll and time his landing or B. spam alpha

[spare kiln]

Yes it always lvl 5+

[fringe abyss]

That one izuku cause all of us to rally to prove we use alpha huh

[spare kiln]

I use it especially to lock people in the zone

[fringe abyss]

I LOVE DOING THAT

Watching em tumble

[spare kiln]

@mild needle Here

[serene holly]

Yes it's incredibly powerful

[serene holly]

Like Your Local Chaos Junkie said they're just bad. The single factor I use to determine whether or not a One For All Deku is good or not is if they use alpha

[serene holly]

I tell literally every One For All Deku player in the server to use alpha because why are people ignoring a 100 DAMAGE HARD KNOCK DOWN option on a RAPID

Like do people not know how busted that is?

[fringe abyss]

I use it to setup for burst combos

I go alpha, wake up melee wakeup beta (get em while im charging it) the. The quintuple slam, and gamma lock on if needed if not alpha spam

Which is extra evil with my current build being Electrification & Perception

[serene holly]

I use it to knock down spam people who mash on wake up, slow down people trying to run away, interrupt enemy animations, give covering fire towards a doorway so people can't just walk in, there's so many things you can do with it

Especially with Smokescreen you can just cover the door in smoke and spam alpha

[fringe abyss]

You right

[serene holly]

The smoke itself will probably deter people from following you because they can't see what's happening

[fringe abyss]

Plus fajinn giving us space hop for quick air alpha chip

[serene holly]

True I also barely see people use Fa Jin and Smokescreen

Surprisingly I see Smokescreen used more than Fa Jin

I think a lot of One For All Deku players are ignoring how much utility he has and are just trying to go for melees, beta, and gamma

I could keep ranting but that's the focal point of my thoughts on him

Also give bro a "burn out" like Iida does if gamma reaches 0% why does this character have a rechargeable Recipro

[twilit edge]

Exactly

[serene holly]

🤝

[grave patio]

I'd like to propose the opposite approach:
only use alpha projectiles, beta kick, and gamma like recipro. Ignore the fact that he has a secondary move set that can be unlocked by melee. Ignore that he has two special action. Simply play him as a better yellow deku that has crouch shot as his grounded alpha, has two charges and more range on his kick, and has a sort of recipro without burnout for his gamma, the world would be so much more peaceful
[except when fighting armored all might, go all out vs that mf, that guy can sghijwqgdb]

[fringe abyss]

Curious

[fringe abyss]

Thats the main appeal for me he can do so much. MAYBE EVEN TOO MUCH

[serene holly]

Definitely too much but yeah I don't know why for this one character people are forgetting half of what he can do

[fringe abyss]

Heard meta character, most complained about his gearshifted kit an melee

All overlooked his alpha and special action

I find other OFA's that just do melee and overdrive so easy to fight on characters like tech Dabi, those OFA's are sloppy and predictable so they end up eating my betas all the time

[serene holly]

I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE fighting One For All Deku's as Tech Dabi they're all so melee rotted

I just spam beta on myself and win and if they use alpha I use gamma to force them to get close where I use beta again

Only problem is if they get high ground and use alpha Dabi explodes and perishes

[fringe abyss]

Word

[fervent kite]

I suck at using Smokescreen cause most of the time I'm moving through open spaces

Fa Jin is my goat tho

[serene holly]

Fair Smokescreen loses a lot of value in open spaces

[fervent kite]

I play OFA like I'm crackhead on an adrenaline high

Aka, bouncing around the place

Safe to say smokescreen wouldn't do me too much good

It's useful to cover up downed teammates tho

[serene holly]

Yeah downed teammates and civilians you’re saving

[tropic lantern]

People kinda stopped expecting Dekus to hide in real obvious smokescreens now that’s he’s been out for a while, I’ve gotten some heals I shouldn’t have been able to get just by plopping a smokescreen in the middle of a chaotic circle

But Fa Jin is still the way better use of your special

[icy dome]

Smoke screen needs a buff bro 💀

Unless u use multiple it’s so obvious where u are

Just make it bigger and if they want they can make it cost more % to

[spare kiln]

In buff i mean make this sbi actually help you escape

[fringe abyss]

Maybe make smokescreen give like a half second near sight?

[hot sphinx]

so whats the consensus on tuning

embrittlement and card dupe on reg setup?

[tropic lantern]

Embrittlement card dupe

seen perception + willpower/trance blows

I've been running hyper regeneration/willpower recently

Might see if Electrocutions any good

[serene holly]

Embrittlement and Card Duplication my beloved

[white moss]

https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/lHl6E53tTVs5m1kUk?invite=cr-MSxEaFcsMzkxMjIxMzUy&v=13

[warped orchid]

So chat is embrittlement plus card dupe his best or just the standard. Yes I did scroll up and I’ve been running embrittlement and card dupe since this deku dropped. Love it btw but I wanna know if there’s something stronger to maximize my damage and or better be able to assist my team. (Just for clarification do not and I repeat DO NOT suggest trance blow)

[native condor]

Character is strong with whatever tuning you run

[warped orchid]

Yea that’s what I originally thought but lately I’ve too often ended up being the only surviving person on my team and always in a 1 v 3 against some absolute bs or just generally other deku’s running trance blow so I’ve kinda psyched myself into thinking maybe I’m just not playing well enough… ya know

[tropic lantern]

If your team is getting aped you can spam grounded alphas

I've been running hyper regen + willpower for uptime and it's been great

[languid abyss]

any tips or advice for gearshift ku?

[native condor]

Then run support tunings

Something to help you not be in that situation often

[warped orchid]

I’ll try this out and what the other person said he was using

[spare kiln]

Here all what i ran
First :iron fist plus embrittlement pure dmg
Second :trace blow an embrittlement
Those were on combat final battle suit
Now we move on to base final battle suit
First :embrittlement plus card dup for good dmg and fast lvl 9
Second sisterly and gp sucker gives me longer survivability

[spare kiln]

Simply use ur alpha its op😭

[serene holly]

PLEASE use your alpha

It's so good

[icy dome]

Ngl I don’t think Deku rlly needs a nerf anymore
Sure the lock on melee is a bit much, but it’s a essential part of his kit. If anything just brining it in a little would be fine
Gamma and beta fine imo
The alpha can be annoying, but it only does 100 damage at max while other characters do much much more damage than that

[fervent kite]

Well

It's also an instant knockdown on 99% of the roster

The 1% being shielded/armored characters

[icy dome]

Idk, I feel like it’s hyped up to be way more than it is
It’s very good done get me wrong, but the damage is on the lower side

[loud smelt]

Did u really just say that

[icy dome]

Idk bro, he don’t feel that wild to play or play against
He’s not even played very often either for a character that’s gased up to be incredibly over powered
Overtuned a bit sure, but busted? Nah

[pine gulch]

『Unknown tempture opinion: Ofa Deku shouldn't have Smokescreen. I feel like out of all of the quirks, smokescreen is probably the least favorite out of the fans. The SpA should've either been Danger Sense or black whip. 』

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-academia-youre-next-deku-danger-sense-look-back-gif-137856700137090738

[tropic lantern]

Jumping alphas burn through people

You’re like 20% worse than an assault Deku dps wise while having infinitely more mobility and a way easier kill combo once shields are broken

[fervent kite]

Stop downplaying Deku man

He's a menace

100 damage Alpha that instant knockdowns meaning he can stunlock you out of storm

[icy dome]

I wouldn’t say infinite mobility
It’s good short term mobility, but compared to other not even rapid characters their long term mobility easily out does his

[icy dome]

I’m not rlly
I’m just saying he’s not the opaf absolutely busted character people say he is

[tropic lantern]

What non rapid character besides Armored Allmight (maybe strike kirishima?) is faster than this character

[icy dome]

Aizawa, Shinso, Red Shoto, Compress, Kiri, Monoma (depending on copies)
Somewhat faster but not as much as the ones listed prior
Yellow Ochoko, Red hawks, and purple toga
Comparing dekus speed to rapids like Ochoko, froppy, all might, and lamillion is like night and day
It’s really just the momentum change they did last reason that really pushed some characters over the edge
Dekus dash dash pause and limited beta uses is good short term mobility
But others have it better

[zenith grail]

Deku’s speed isn’t the problem about him

It’s his absurd ground alpha and air melee tracking that locks on from 10 feet away

In terms of speed he’s rather mid tier tbh

Gets beat out by every other rapid not named twice

[tropic lantern]

All of those are solved by a gamma lock on/alpha knock down, and red shoto is not faster than him lmao

The issue when compared to other rapids is he's 3 times more lethal than any of them besides rapid ochako

while having comparable mobility

also downplaying short term mobility is not good when that's what keeps you alive in final circles

[icy dome]

Which is dependent of if you even have time to lock onto them before they’re out of its range
It’s situational or best when someone’s getting back up
Red shoto is definitely faster with how short of a cooldown his slide is on

[icy dome]

Depends on the user of the other rapids
And yes it is good in final circles, but so is the other rapids mobility

[icy dome]

👆🏽

Just wanted to mention I’m not saying I don’t think Deku is strong
He absolutely is
I just don’t agree with the take that he’s busted and leagues above every other character

[zenith grail]

Ehhh

He’s above everyone barring armoured all might, I could see tech Mirio being above him too but he’s definitely top 3 in that case

[zenith grail]

mobility and/or area control is what keeps you alive in final circle

short term mobility is just better in final circle than a large one

it’s not necessarily better

[icy dome]

I feel like it depends on tunning
Shinso tunning on Deku is just lazy and boring
But lately I really haven’t seen many of them in my lobbies, I’ve been in Ace rank and I maybe see 1-2 every few matches

[tropic lantern]

I really can't get over this red shoto claim

ur like the same speed of his dash with Fa Jin

[icy dome]

💀

[tropic lantern]

and that's if you don't knock him with alphas

[icy dome]

If he’s going in a straight line in the open, sure
But if he’s maneuvering around objects and buildings he hits that slide twice
Sits for a few seconds and they come back fast and he’s already on his way again

But to each their own I suppose

[tropic lantern]

just press spacebar with fa jin then

[icy dome]

Also depends on circle
Late game it’s not hard to catch them

[icy dome]

Depends on the situation if you can even catch him with that
But if you’re this pressed about it then, no I suppose red shoto is not faster 😅
We can move on from that

Not trying to be rude, you’ve made valid points

[tropic lantern]

You’re good, responding in between games is all

Overall I agree with what other people are saying though

His mobility complements his alpha really well and his melee is broken when you have the opportunity to use it

Air stall is pretty nuts

Character’s top 3

[icy dome]

As long as bro doesn’t get the rapid hawks treatment 🙌🏽

[tropic lantern]

He’s probably not getting touched and if he does it’ll be the wrong things

The fact their only concern with the first balance patch was the infinite it’s a pretty good sign for the character

Especially since they didn’t actually remove the infinite

[icy dome]

What do u think would be the good changes vs the wrong ones?

[tropic lantern]

Any changes to beta/gamma damage wouldn’t be much of a nerf to the character , especially gamma lock on damage

Removing the spike aspect from the gamma lock on would probably be healthy

No reason you should be able to fit in alphas because you hit someone in the sky

Making gearshift less efficient the character would feel it and you’d be way less safe needing to go for melees to reset it

If they wanted to patch the infinite it should probably actually be out of the game

And his air melee tracking is a bit absurd

I’m thinking they’re gonna nerf something that isn’t the alpha and it won’t do much to the character if I had to guess

I’m at work rn but I could together a better list

[spare kiln]

For the last time its not 10 feet away its an issue on ur end mine doesn't count unless am in a range of 0 to 1.3 meters

[zenith grail]

Its called an exaggeration

It's more like 5-6 feet

but that's still way too far

[spare kiln]

No its less mine doesn't work that far 60fps btw

Btw

You sure ur ping is fine?

[zenith grail]

buddy I tested this in training mode

[spare kiln]

Ur on pc am on console my version aint lock from that far

[zenith grail]

2 mins

[spare kiln]

What's ur ping?

Ping différence could change it

[jaunty rune]

It does lock on that far

The range for it to start tracking is insane

[spare kiln]

Ur on pc too something is wrong with steam version ong

☠️

[jaunty rune]

I’m on switch too

[spare kiln]

Ur 30fps ur moves work differently

Ur yellow deku beta i activates faster than xbox and ps5 beta

[jaunty rune]

And I bet if I drop down to 60 fps I’ll still be tracking from the same distance

It’s an issue on your end not ours

[spare kiln]

Am on 60fps stable it doesn't track it missed slot lately

[jaunty rune]

Yeah no it’s an issue on your end for sure as this is not only something that happens with us its something that happens with everyone

[zenith grail]

this aint a ping issue

his tracking is just that good

[spare kiln]

Mine half that distance

[jaunty rune]

That’s a you issue

100%

[zenith grail]

idk then

[spare kiln]

Am on 60fps like every other console

[zenith grail]

nintendo switch issue i suppose

but I want it fixed for pc

[spare kiln]

Says the guy on 30fps where moves activate faster ☠️

[zenith grail]

oh wait other guy is on switch too?

then yeah idk

[spare kiln]

Its a pc port thing then

[zenith grail]

Doesn't make any sense

[spare kiln]

Am on xbox mine 60fps it tracks from half distance

[zenith grail]

show

[jaunty rune]

You say that like its every move

Which it is in fact not you just cannot cope that rapidku is strong

[spare kiln]

He is strong not busted

[jaunty rune]

This has to be Ragebait right?

[spare kiln]

I dont got clips like i told you last time am living in dorms rn for exams

[jaunty rune]

You can still get clips

[zenith grail]

then you must be misremembering bro

[spare kiln]

How i don't have my xbox

[zenith grail]

because if Im having the same lockon red is

when Im playing at 144+ fps

and red is at 30

[jaunty rune]

Then how are you fact checking this

[zenith grail]

and I can do this in training mode with no ping affecting it

[jaunty rune]

Also about him being busted

[spare kiln]

Cuz i played for 1 week after his nerf☠️

[zenith grail]

then it's not an issue with console, ping or fps

[spare kiln]

Then must be the switch and pc ports

[zenith grail]

Very unlikely man

[spare kiln]

Try reporting the issue on the pc report page?

[zenith grail]

You don't just accidentally change lock on range for 2 consoles

It's not a bug

I wouldn't do that

[spare kiln]

They are coded differently tho

[zenith grail]

I need to actual see proof that its different

can't just take your word on it

[spare kiln]

Pc and switch port are coded differently to xbox snd ps

[zenith grail]

makes no difference for what is relevant

and switch and pc would be coded differently from each other too

[spare kiln]

Different code comes with different bugs

[zenith grail]

so would xbox and ps

[spare kiln]

Or mistakes

[zenith grail]

There has not been a single case of that in this game's life span

apart from fps related issues like tamaki's gamma

[jaunty rune]

He still maintains the insta hard knock 100 damage large af armored projectile that he can cancel into a beta or gamma which allows him to essentially parry moves when used properly (not something I want gone but it’s something he can do that makes him a lot stronger) what is essential a refreshable recipro an insta hard knock beta that can stagger you on startup which can net you more damage with a second aoe 200 damage variant and a 160 lock on gamma that can be used in combos

Also on 60 fps+ he has a consistent melee loop

[zenith grail]

but as we've already proved

[spare kiln]

Aim assist speed

[zenith grail]

it's not an fps issue

[zenith grail]

that's an fps issue

[spare kiln]

They nerfed the loop

[zenith grail]

or was an fps issue

[spare kiln]

Long ago

[jaunty rune]

Yet they never removed it

They simply made it harder and frame dependent

[spare kiln]

U cant do it anymore after the nerf so why you bringing it up?

[jaunty rune]

Yes you can

There are numerous posts about it

[zenith grail]

eh

there are only three ways to do it

[spare kiln]

Wall is one

[zenith grail]

1. have the person already be high in the air when starting the melee loops
2. dodge cancel tech
3. be close to a ledge to shorten the roll

Am not familiar with a wall tech

[spare kiln]

I tried it it has chance of failing6

[jaunty rune]

Dodge into a wall to reduce the distance you travel basically

[tropic lantern]

Promise you it is still incredibly consistent

I get an infinite loop atleast once a game

[spare kiln]

So what we conclude is the devs want him like that

[jaunty rune]

They don’t which is why he was nerfed however it wasn’t enough as it’s still possible

[spare kiln]

Yuh it wss intentionally they wanted it to stay in a way

[jaunty rune]

It’s straight up not

[spare kiln]

How did yall not figure out those devs by now

[zenith grail]

I mean if they nerfed it to try stop the melee loops it obviously wasn't intentional

dodge cancel isn't intentional nor is ledge roll canceling

someone being already higher up is just an unfortunate part

I think they're fine with some melee comboing but not as much as you can do rn with those techs

[spare kiln]

Well it was reported if they don't stop it by next patch they want it like that

[jaunty rune]

You don’t know these devs do you

[zenith grail]

bud monoma wasn't intended to use others quirks more than his own

yet he was left alone in that department for 2 seasons

and yeah these devs are notoriously slow

[spare kiln]

I do from other games and past mhur update they keep character op fot ages

[zenith grail]

the only quick changes they've done have been the kendo electrification tod and the strike endeavour gamma

[spare kiln]

The toga invincible glitch too?

[zenith grail]

that wasn't quick iirc?

[jaunty rune]

No that stayed the whole season

[spare kiln]

1 week ig?

[spare kiln]

They left red deku beta op for 7 or 8 seasons before the reduced its pssed

Speed

[jaunty rune]

That and every other mirio bug

[spare kiln]

Red deku still a good choice

[jaunty rune]

The thing where it moves depending on your camera?

[jaunty rune]

That’s not because of his beta

[spare kiln]

No it used to fall down alot faster now it's slower

[jaunty rune]

It’s because of his alpha

[jaunty rune]

It didn’t

It had the ability to

By your logic it actually used to fall slower too

[spare kiln]

https://youtu.be/BpPfFwh4WKU?si=CkbY1knX5BEc9tS-

Watch

[jaunty rune]

Ah the goat no life

Yeah no I believe that was before his beta momentum change which meant if you looked up he would fall slower and if you looked down he would fall faster

Now it’s all a consistent speed and any momentum you get will force you at a forward angle which means you cannot fall downward unless you are not moving

Really messes with his combos

[spare kiln]

My info source lol

Hes reliable dont blame me

[serene holly]

I am coping so hard that this maintenance will have patch notes that revert it back to being controllable again

[jaunty rune]

Same

[spare kiln]

Thank god

I hope so

Cuz i can't use it right6

[serene holly]

Me want non-z axis changed Full Bullet beta

Wait that's worded badly

Me want z-axis changeable Full Bullet beta

That's better

[jaunty rune]

I just want to go straight down again

And use the wall run techs

[serene holly]

The Wall Runner techs look so sickkkkkk but I can't use them 😭

Hopefully I get Cyber Hero for Deku before they change it back (if they ever) since that's my most desired Wall Runner fit on him

[jaunty rune]

If you wanna get technical they still exist they just do next to nothing

[serene holly]

Yeah it's much harder to get value from them

[fervent kite]

You know it's cap cause console UR can't even reach 60fps

It floats between 45 and 50

Ps4 slim is hard locked at 30, ps4 pro/ps5 at 45-50 range

Still doesn't change the tracking

[spare kiln]

Xbox seires x has higher specs than ps5 its at 60fps

☠️

Dont teach me about my own console

It always been known base ps5 is weaker than xbox series x

[fervent kite]

Not by a wide margin, UR is still not 60 in either consoles

You're just being stupidly stubborn cause you can't accept your favorite character is busted

Levels of copium that were unseen until now

[spare kiln]

The game is designed to run on xbox one which is weaker than a series x if a one x can run 45 to 50 and series x can run 60

[fervent kite]

Not really, it's still running at the series x like it would at the one x, cause UR doesn't have a next-gen update

[spare kiln]

If my old pc with rx 580 can run 60fps on 1440p so does my xbox

[fervent kite]

Alright bro

Hope you find someone who's up to pay the rent up there

Clearly you've got vacancy

[spare kiln]

The hardware difference is big your saying a 2060ti runs like a 3060ti

[fervent kite]

UR isn't uncapped, nor was it made to support the newer gen versions of consoles in mind

[spare kiln]

Its capped to 60

[fervent kite]

You need to get your eyes checked man

[spare kiln]

Most u can get is 60 on ps or xbox capped to 30 on switch and pc is uncapped

[spare kiln]

If ur Playstation is dropping cuz its weaker it aint my issue its urs

The only time it drops to 50 55 is when ur in an area with like 6 different teams

[fervent kite]

Yap yap

Bro pinging me just to say he's wrong

[spare kiln]

That how a reply massage works

☠️

What's the point of replies if it won't ping you

[fervent kite]

I'm just saying, pretty bold to ping someone just to say how blatantly wrong you are

[jaunty rune]

And the worst part is that it’s just him

[fervent kite]

Not just him, there's the other person with a Deku pfp that also insists on that narrative

Deku ain't catching any major nerfs any time soon

He's got MC privileges on top of being one of the most sought out units in the game

[spare kiln]

Bold of you to assume am the only one lol

[tropic lantern]

no perfect dodge roll air melee off Nagant 😔

[spare kiln]

@jaunty rune https://youtube.com/shorts/FZzgm6raK0E?si=8GK8cvRSBV9qY12M

New issue

[craggy inlet]

they shadow nerfed ofa deku u cant do air melee into melee combo anymore

[tropic lantern]

Like air melee into flurry?

You definitely can

[craggy inlet]

u can

but u cant extend from there

[tropic lantern]

Extend as in what

[craggy inlet]

do melee combo after

[tropic lantern]

Like his uppercuts?

[craggy inlet]

his combo

[tropic lantern]

Air melee, flurry, air melee, flurry, air melee, uppercuts?

[craggy inlet]

yes

i cant do it anymore

[tropic lantern]

I’ll check real quick but the infinites still in the game so just get good at that

nah it's still there

make sure you're in gearshift

This one yeah?

[spare kiln]

Ty for making me even more annoying by teaching me it

@tropic lantern fps doesn't matter for that combo right?

[tropic lantern]

I’d assume not

You can do it outside of gearshift so the timing isn’t tight at all

[jaunty rune]

Switch does it slower but thats it

Basically switch just has more input delay sadge

[spare kiln]

Switch 1 and switch 2 both are 30fps on mhur right?

[jaunty rune]

Yeah

Switch 2 can run at a higher frame rate but the version is capped at 30

[languid abyss]

i need help on blue deku if its ok

[tropic lantern]

What’s up

[languid abyss]

need help with his kit

[tropic lantern]

No problem, what do you need to know

[languid abyss]

lots of stuff

[tropic lantern]

If you have anything specific I can answer that

[languid abyss]

how to use him the best way ect

[tropic lantern]

Main focus is your alpha, its safest and most consistent dps

[meager wharf]

You’re gonna wanna try and use him to his full potential

[languid abyss]

thats where i am stumped at

[meager wharf]

You and me both!

[fleet quail]

Whats the best way to go for leveling up quirks with OFA Deku i usually go Alpha Beta then Gamma