Tamaki Amajiki

[boreal knoll]

Well for the last clip here you can fit in another melee then

Grab -> melee 1 -> melee 2 -> beta is the typical combo you see

If you want I can show you the Tamaki combo list I wrote

[stark turret]

Ah ok

[stark turret]

Sure

[boreal knoll]

#1397500254080864387 message

[stark turret]

Awesome thanks!

[hot bone]

Quick question

How would these numbers compare if I have iron fist

Instead of embrittlement

[boreal knoll]

They'd be less

[hot bone]

To what extent

@stark turret

[boreal knoll]

5% less

Iron Fist is a 5% damage increase on the user and Embrittlement is a 10% defense down on the enemy

[hot bone]

Ok

Ty

Running a red slot blue slot build so

[boreal knoll]

I mean you can do Iron Fist if you want it's not a bad idea since he can confirm melees

You can make the blue Perception for gamma through walls shenanigans

[young compass]

I'm too much of a nerd 😭

[boreal knoll]

Okay so that much less

Not 5% smh video game for having math

[hot bone]

How can I "dodge" the lock on attack of deku

[stark turret]

?

[hot bone]

You already responded

[hot bone]

It was that earlier

But the speed feels good

[boreal knoll]

Oh do you have Acceleration?

[boreal knoll]

Whenever he's starts flying towards you, not when he flys behind you, is when you roll

[hot bone]

Yeah

[hot bone]

Ok

[boreal knoll]

How good is it on him?

[hot bone]

Well the beta invisible boost plus the tuning makes you very quick

Which is good for running away or chasing

It also allows you to beta after a special action before they can flip

Due to faster animation

[boreal knoll]

Yeah that part of it looks super nice

[turbid scarab]

How do u move the gamma like that

[stark turret]

It aims towards the camera so I just moved the left stick lol

[vivid portal]

Question

anyone know if shinzo tuning special would ruin Tamaki's grab into double melee and beta combo?

[nova spear]

Yes it no longer combos with his special tuning

[vivid portal]

I thought that might be the case ya

[worthy seal]

Finally got embrittle on him🥹

[granite inlet]

i just got amajiki!! any tips like combos and tuning? i'm thinking embrittlement and trance blow?

[boreal knoll]

#1397500254080864387 message Combos

Trance Blow no

Embrittlement yes

Trance Blow kills a consistent high damage combo for him which is the grab -> melee 1 -> melee 2 -> beta

[granite inlet]

why

[granite inlet]

Ohhh ok. Why not special action in that?

[boreal knoll]

Makes the beta untrue

You’d have to use a less damaging alpha and Special Action + alpha don’t beat out beta damage

As for tuning give him either Perception or any of the generally good tunings with Embrittlement. Stuff like Crushing PU Charge, Critical Permeation, the Suckers can work if they’re your thing, and High-Speed Replenishment

Oh and Acceleration too since it can unlock some new combos for him from what I’ve seen

[granite inlet]

OHHHH ACCELERATION CAN BE REALLY OVERPOWERED

what new combos??

Does Alpha > melee > special action > beta work then

Also what's a good level order? i remember renting amajiki and i couldn't hit an alpha for MY LIFE. maybe i was inexperienced. so i was doing b9 a9. should i try b4 a9??

or does most of my damage come from beta

[boreal knoll]

Probably yeah

[granite inlet]

YAY! too bad i don't have an amajiki costume 😀

[boreal knoll]

#1397500254080864387 message

Sorry was doing something

[granite inlet]

tysm. so my main combo is alpha melee melee beta?

[boreal knoll]

Yeah

[granite inlet]

When do i do the special action combos? (alpha melee special alpha)

if i'm third partying and wanna like take away one of their teammates?

or if it's a big team fight and i need to do it in the air

[boreal knoll]

When you don't have beta

[boreal knoll]

Also this

[granite inlet]

When do i use gamma?

[boreal knoll]

To support from afar or finishing off a downed person

[granite inlet]

tysm for the tips, this is a lot to take in

[boreal knoll]

Just play a few matches and it'll feel more natural

[hot bone]

If tamaki had a PUR double blue special tuning costume nobody would be safe from me

[worthy seal]

It does but they have chances to jump out

[granite inlet]

what would u put

[worthy seal]

Perception acceleration probably

[boreal knoll]

Embrittlement and Perception for me

[hot bone]

This

Nobody can escape

And even if you do

KAMEHAMEHA

[worthy seal]

It does sound like a lot of fun

[hot bone]

That beta was evil

[boreal knoll]

The beta on that Kendo was evil

[vivid portal]

god having willpower

has been game changing for me

[young compass]

what do you mean?

[worthy seal]

It's not a guaranteed combo, they have a brief amount of time to jump out and get invisibility frames

[young compass]

I don't think with acceleration they do if your execution is good

without though yes for sure

[worthy seal]

Well acceleration was brought up separately. This was just base combo recommendations and questions

[young compass]

I read it as being acceleration specific but yes without it's not recommended to go for (I think even without there's maybe weird terrain/technique where it might still be true maybe? but I'd just generally don't recommend it without, actually when the game is back on I might wanna try one way of executing it to see if there's any chance that that could possibly make it true. But yeah don't think it'll work and even if it does that combo just takes all your best resources)

[modest ibex]

?

[granite inlet]

what does perception help with

[granite inlet]

but in general what combos should i aim for

[boreal knoll]

Hitting gamma. If someone tries running away you can use your gamma to catch them behind walls

[boreal knoll]

Grab Alpha -> Melee 1 -> Melee 2 -> Beta
Grab alpha -> Melee 1 -> Special Action -> Alpha (non-tipper)
Air grab alpha -> Air melee -> Alpha (non-tipper)

[granite inlet]

tysm

[sonic loom]

If timed correctly you can do grab alpha - melee 1 - special action - tipper alpha and air grab alpha - air melee - beta

[dawn wasp]

I can't hit the grab alpha => melee => SA => tipper alpha anymore, I used to land it around 75% of the time

Did they remove it or has the timing changed?

[boreal knoll]

With or without Acceleration?

[modern hollow]

Have a screenshot of the build?

[hot bone]

Nope

I'm not home rn either

Why?

[modern hollow]

Just wanted to check it out

Acceleration will power seems quite good for him

[hot bone]

I dont have red kiri data 😭

[modern hollow]

Oh that’s PU charge

My bad

[hot bone]

Lol

Only reason I'm not running trance blow is cuz I really like the grab-melee-melee-beta combo

[vivid portal]

Best start playing the gacha ultra impact just for the data rewards lol

[sonic loom]

Without accel

[boreal knoll]

And on GP or HP only?

[sonic loom]

Pretty sure it worked on gp

I got a clip lemme go find it

[boreal knoll]

Yeah because I'm trying to hit it and it's not working

[sonic loom]

Might have deleted it off my phone its on my switch but im at school

So ill send it in like 5 hours

My personal favorite combo with tamaki tho is jab 1 - special action - grab alpha - beta

[hot bone]

Imma grab one give me a sec

[hot bone]

YOU CAN DO THAT?

[sonic loom]

Yea

[sonic loom]

@boreal knoll @hot bone

I havent practiced the first one in a minute so idk if it works on gp

[hot bone]

The first one works on GP

Just gotta hit the alpha

[stark turret]

Sick combos

[boreal knoll]

One of the ones I have in my combo list do two more damage than the second video but yours does look more cinematic

[sonic loom]

Which one?

[boreal knoll]

Grab alpha -> Melee 1 -> Melee 2 -> Melee 3 3 hits -> Beta

[sonic loom]

Ah

I never figured out how to cancel his multi jab into the beta

[boreal knoll]

What happens when you try to do it

[sonic loom]

Usually they'll just get knocked down early

[vivid portal]

Idk if anyone else is having this issue

But yesterday I had people sinking into the ground

After hitting grab then the 2 melee pretty much making it impossible to hit the beta

[boreal knoll]

Are you pulling in the enemy while they are in the air?

[sonic loom]

No

[boreal knoll]

They have to be pulled in while they are in the air for it to work

You can force the enemy into the air by grabbing them when you’re about to touch the ground so they get pulled into the air while you can ground melee them

I think only me and @young compass use this combo I’ve seen no one else use it

[sonic loom]

Ah

[hot bone]

Alpha grab >special action> beta works with acceleration active

Because its fast enough to where they cant flip it

[sonic loom]

Yea ik but he has better combos to the point it's not really worth spending a slot for it

[hot bone]

Well its not the only reason to use acceleration

[sonic loom]

Well yea it makes u faster obv but idk

If he has an accel embritt build i might try it

[hot bone]

Unfortunately no

[sonic loom]

Unfort

[hot bone]

The only other costume with it available has a yellow HERO slot

But maybe they'll find an excuse to give tamaki new costumes

[hot bone]

I mean you can have iron fist

[sonic loom]

No vro

Its so bad

🥀

Ill just run embritt fixer till new costume comes out most likely

Maybe ill tune casual for accell crushing

[sonic loom]

Got it down thx

[boreal knoll]

Enjoy le combo

[latent knot]

this good tuning for my boy?

[boreal knoll]

It’s pretty good. I’d personally run Perception or Acceleration on the blue slot but Crushing PU Charge is always good

[hot bone]

Try acceleration

[sonic loom]

Percep/accel/wr are much better options than pu turbo

[latent knot]

Ok thankss

[shrewd grove]

Yo

[hot bone]

If you hate your downs being warped by a kurogiri, run perception and melee your downs

Then beam tf out of them if they get warped

[ashen nebula]

good luck with that

I’m always on the corner of the map

[latent knot]

😤

il just camp the corners and find u

[lyric mantle]

Is Tamaki good rn? What’s his tuning?

[deep stag]

He's like top 10 rn and his tuning makes ability cards last longer

[rancid island]

Balanced tracking ngl

[silver warren]

im going to cry because of him why he have not got nerf yet plz'

[dawn wasp]

Because he’s not THAT strong

I think there are way more pressing issues than Tamaki

[ashen nebula]

We being fr now

[dawn wasp]

I wouldn’t mind a nerf for sure

I don’t even play him

But I would like to see some characters nerfed first

[wet horizon]

Tamaki does not needs a nerf, while his beta has auto tracking that does not get you a kill, because after that beta you have to actually aim to confirm a kill

His tentacle grab isn’t as fast as shinso’s grab and he actually needs to enter aim mode to gran someone while shinso doesn’t have to
Tamaki is a more balanced and more skillful version of shinso…
Also tamaki counters the most broken char in the game which is rapid ochaco so nerfing him would be like buffing her again

The meta right now is red kiri, rapid ochaco, red kendo and shinso , and tamaki is below these chars so yeahhhhh he’s not broken

Strong yes but not broken

[ashen nebula]

Uh what

a beta can definitely kill

and it still does significant damage regardless

it should not have the tracking it does

[wet horizon]

Also i forgot to mention his beta does less damage than Shinso’s beta and he has 2 and shinso has 3 😭😭😭

[ashen nebula]

Shinso’s beta can only move so far when in the air and is kinda predictable

But yes Shinso’s beta should be nerfed

But I’m not complaining about tamaki’s beta damage

[wet horizon]

I mean if shinso, red kiri and red kendo and deku ofa didn’t exist i would say tamaki is broken but i just can’t say it when shinso exists 😭😭

[ashen nebula]

Shinso isn’t broken

He’s OP but not broken

He should be nerfed across the board but yeah

Only broken characters right now are ofa Deku and compress

Tamaki is honestly on the same tier as Shinso

But they aren’t on the same tier as compress, strike kendo, strike kiri and ofa deku

but doesn’t mean they don’t need nerfs

[dawn wasp]

What’s the difference?

(Real question, not sarcasm)

[hot bone]

People when a character with one offensive move has a strong offensive move:

[zenith vector]

holy cope get this fan outta here

[ashen nebula]

all tamaki's attacks do dmg so idk what this means

did you hear a compress fan say this and try apply it to your character too

😭

[hot bone]

I was talking about compress 🥀

[zenith vector]

tamaki and shinso are in the same predicament just shinso being more annyoing]

[ashen nebula]

OP is like stronger than they maybe should be not unbearable

broken is unbearable

like need immediate changes

[ashen nebula]

oh

well compress has his shield deflect

and sorry those trucks are just too good

[zenith vector]

he's as skilled as shinso cuz all you gotta do is grab and beta to guarbreak then on wakeup just press beta and let it track for you

all shinso does is aplha slam

beta

[wet horizon]

Bro you should get out of here if you going to have that attitude towards someone giving their own opinion

I don’t agree that compress is broken yet i’m not attacking the person who said it

[ashen nebula]

combined with top tier mobility

[wet horizon]

You are not even a tamaki main if you saying “all you do” so gtfoh

: )

[zenith vector]

you can't tell me straight face that tamaki doesnt need nerfs

[hot bone]

I should get outta here

[wet horizon]

Bro idc

[zenith vector]

i dont gotta main him to know how stupid he is

[wet horizon]

Not even responding to you

[ashen nebula]

nah tamaki has more depth to him than shinso at least

[wet horizon]

So bye

[ashen nebula]

i'll grant him that much

shinso is bottom of the barrel low skill floor trash

[zenith vector]

yeah the special action combos are unique ig but thats it

but saying he doesnt need nerfs is ludacris

[ashen nebula]

I think his grab definitely needs to be less spammy

[zenith vector]

yeah and longer cds slightly

[ashen nebula]

and also maybe an alpha ammo downsize cause I remember someone brought up a good point that like

when do you ever run out of alphas as tamaki

[zenith vector]

7 and lvl 9 is crazy

[ashen nebula]

it's pretty hard

[zenith vector]

yeah tbh

like idm beta tracking if it got a slight dmg down nerf

[ashen nebula]

beta tracking needs more than a slight nerf

that tracking plays the game for you

dont even have to aim

[zenith vector]

but it's good that it hardknocks cus you cant have tracking and combo potential

[hot bone]

We have ofa deku tho

There's worse

[ashen nebula]

and somehow ofa deku's gamma is easier to dodge than tamaki's beta

[zenith vector]

that's what im trying to explain to @wet horizon

[zenith vector]

if we kep saying theres worse

[ashen nebula]

tamaki's beta feels impossible to dodge

[zenith vector]

we never gonna get anywhere

[ashen nebula]

ofa deku does have nutty melee tracking though

[wet horizon]

This is how i play tamaki and if you think this does not require skill then u nuts

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSUnCvqms/

[zenith vector]

ofa deku is in a league of his own

[wet horizon]

Tamaki’s that beta spam don’t get wins

To actually get downs on him you need to have good aim

But yeah any opinion is valid just don’t come to me with that attitude

[zenith vector]

that's unique ig

[zenith vector]

not true his beta can win an interaction very easily

[zenith vector]

to get downs with shinso you need to have good aim ig 🤷‍♂️ , when i say they're the same it's cuz they would be more respectable if both thier betas werent stupid in their own ways

[zenith vector]

i got his festival outfit after complaining abt him

great pull session

[deep stag]

the only thing skillful in this entire clip was the last alpha you did except for that you just hit him with an auto combo and caught his wakeup?

[ashen nebula]

you dont play this game if you think compress isnt broken

[lost blade]

They gotta be new. Lmao Compress is insanely broken... short cooldowns, AoE trucks with low DP, high damage

Two gammas, one of the best mobilities in the game. Free out of jail free cards.

[zenith vector]

that's just barrels insane

[boreal knoll]

Is there anything I'm missing/should be changed?

[sonic loom]

Throw in accell, get rid of the vampires imo

Also wall runner always good

[boreal knoll]

Does Acceleration give him that good of a boost? Does it unlock any combo routes?

[sonic loom]

Ik it unlocks alpha jab sa beta true but it the speed boost also helps with juking after landing a beta

Same idea with wall runner and the juking but its just more versatile

[boreal knoll]

Also I reworked his to not include the vamps and moved it to the generally good tunes that will still be included in other character's graphics if they are exceptionally good on them

[sonic loom]

Crushing hsr and crit perm are always good

Unless u dont wanna include them bc they're in general good tunings

Which is fair enough

[boreal knoll]

I'd rather not include the same generally good tunings in every character's graphic

[sonic loom]

Alr makes sense

[boreal knoll]

And Wall Runner is good yeah but like it says there I think is redundant. I can make Wall Runner text's orange to show that it's good but not exceptionally good if that works unless I've been missing out on peak Wall Runner on Tamaki or something

[sonic loom]

Yea id say its good but I think percep/accel is usually better so orange works

[young compass]

also iron fist imo the issue isn't the cd but rather the damage buff amount

but I'm happy to see accel added

[boreal knoll]

True the 5% is wack

I can include that in the Iron Fist part

[boreal knoll]

I'm open to suggestions that's why I'm asking because I want these graphics to be something anyone can send as good tuning advice

[young compass]

also wait aren't space hop, wallrunner and fixer in the generally good as well now, idk making all this make sense is kinda hard imo >.<

[young compass]

gotcha yeah idk tough project you took on imo xD

[boreal knoll]

If they're included in the character's graphic it's especially good/still situational but better than the others

Added the Iron Fist suggestion

Probably gonna get rid of the cooldown part of it

[boreal knoll]

I imagine it'll be worth it in the end and it'll just require maintenance every new character

[young compass]

fairs, haven't tried space hop with him so idk if it's better

[boreal knoll]

The amount of times I wish I could hop over Todoroki ice walls or Kendo shields to grab a teammate further back that she's protecting prompts me to put it there

[young compass]

cooldown is like 3s after it runs out at level 10 I think, just can never be reactivated during it which kinda sucks

[boreal knoll]

Plus makes it easier to grab people like Young For One

[young compass]

fair enough, I'm ngl I only ever lab combos with him and barely ever play him in actual games

kinda like me and shinso >.<

[young compass]

fairs

[boreal knoll]

Me with One For All Deku...

I need to play more with him so I can better learn how to set up situations to land the combos in the first place

I should probably make a graphic for him too

[quartz trout]

Does anyone here know how to deal with that Auto tracking move OFA deku has?

[boreal knoll]

You can roll it but the funnier counter is to jump and look down and beta. I’m not sure if that actually hits behind him but if it does then there you go

[dense shadow]

Your sleeping on yafo tuning man 💔

Never run out of betas

[boreal knoll]

I rarely have the issue of not having enough betas because I’m not spamming it

I combo into it or use it for mobility so I have at least one 99% of the time

[dense shadow]

Nah

I just spam it

Busted for no reason

[boreal knoll]

I don’t like spamming because it ain’t fun and it’s counterable

[boreal knoll]

This is true beta needs nerfs

[dense shadow]

This is why the cd works

If I miss it’s already off cd

[boreal knoll]

I prefer having something like Embrittlement/Space Hop on my yellow slots but tuning is supposed to compliment your play style so if it works for you it works for you

It’s in the “Situationally Good” section for a reason

[dense shadow]

Got a 7 ko game with it and it’s the first time playing him since he dropped

[boreal knoll]

Also I spelled situationally wrong I’ll fix that when I get home I made that last night when I was tired

[dense shadow]

This character is the best at confirming kills

[boreal knoll]

He is incredibly good at confirming kills as long as they don’t have an Ibara or well positioned frog

Cementoss revive might still screw them over with the walls trapping them inside for gamma

[dense shadow]

Indeed I wish afo gamma was like that too but it stops after doing a certain amount of damage

[boreal knoll]

If they Cementoss has Reinforced or times the revive a bit after the beam starts so the revived person isn’t taking all the beam damage I think the victim lives

[ashen nebula]

how do you counter the beta

[boreal knoll]

Delay your roll because the hitbox comes out delayed when he betas

If you're quick you can also grab/hit him out of it but that's rare and not advised because the punish is a fat 150+ damage onto you

[ashen nebula]

show clip

[boreal knoll]

I'm not at home but I can record one later

[dense shadow]

You don’t

Don’t let him deceive you just don’t get too close to tamaki

[boreal knoll]

I've done it once or so I do believe it's doable

It might either be inconsistent or a timing thing is what I have to test when I get home

[quartz trout]

you know I was thinking about this, i figured that the only way to counter would be some sort of AOE attack, but Sun Eater has none.

[boreal knoll]

He has one but it has probably the most start up a move can have besides like Denki Special Action and you’re stationary during it

[hot bone]

Not to be that guy but

Special action?

[boreal knoll]

Has end lag and also makes you use your vertical mobility tool

[zenith vector]

what endlag? everytime ive used it comes out really fast and im able to beta right after 🤷

[boreal knoll]

I mean after you use it there’s a period where you can’t do anything else which Space Hop doesn’t have

[zenith vector]

oh alr

[deep harness]

300hp + amajiki combo with NO tuning + fast K.O

[boreal knoll]

My bad I forgot to last night

I can record another one if you want

[ashen nebula]

doesn't happen like that in a real game

[boreal knoll]

Is there a way you want me to test it that's more accurate to a real match then?

[ashen nebula]

Do it in a real match

naturally

dodging his beta is just not that easy

I've done exactly as you did in that clip and still got hit

[boreal knoll]

That might take me a while depending on if I have a Tamaki in the lobby and whether or not he wants to fight me

[zenith vector]

you're most likely not doing that because the bs i've seen with his beta is when they're above you and ts just tracks all the way down or he does a complete 360 so unless you're expecting it coming the move isn't rollable

or it needs really good timing idk

[ashen nebula]

somehow dodged this one but it seems it ended short

this guy was thirsting me solo with no gp btw ^

annoying af

ended up killing him

[desert sundial]

I'm pretty sure if you were slightly to the right this roll wldve missed bc I think his hotbox is actually based on the animation

Meaning it comes out in that circle

[boreal knoll]

Yeah I've been meaning to test in actual matches but Tamakis are allergic to me now

[desert sundial]

I think that is what makes the move so hard to dodge

[desert sundial]

What a blessing 🥹

[boreal knoll]

I actually don't mind fighting him

Probably because I main him and know what he's looking for the most so I know how to avoid it

[desert sundial]

I do bc even when I diff tf out of them bro has 350, he gets away

[boreal knoll]

He does not need 350 HP

He needs 300 next patch

Love the guy but I know he needs nerfs

[livid pawn]

I'm guessing the extra HP is for when he gets stuck in place using the Gamma but like, it's really not that hard to get out of it and most of the time you use it away from danger anyway.

I'm hitting that button to squad wipe peeps a mile away, not right in my face 😮‍💨

[boreal knoll]

If you’re getting attacked in gamma that’s YOUR fault you shouldn’t have extra HP to compensate for poor positioning

[wanton ore]

Question for you things

Iron fist or trance blow for tamaki

Prior tuning is acceleration

[young compass]

ngl neither but if you must iron fist I suppose, actually it's probably pretty solid so yeah iron fist ig. Trance blow can kinda work but changes his gameplay massively for barely any benefit if any at all. Otherwise all the general use red tunings are good options, extra wind, will power, crushing pu

[dawn wasp]

Trace blow is super strong, iron fist is a barely noticeable increase in damage

More often than not Trance Blow is just removing the character from the fight

If you want max damage on your combos, and you don’t have a good fixer setup, iron fist is probably okay

But the increase is so low it’s not gonna change much tbh

I don’t think I would play either, and I understand the appeal of the simplicity of iron fist, you don’t need to do anything differently to get value so there’s that

So I’d say it’s probably up to you, I think for convenience Iron Fist is a decent option, but Trance Blow is so strong imo it’s worth learning how to abuse it.

[young compass]

really, even though you lose like 100 or so damage in your combo? (I don't know the actual number)

[dawn wasp]

I don’t think you’re losing that much?

To be fair I don’t know

But yeah let’s say it’s 100.

Then your opponent is basically unable to do anything before you, armor will not beat a grab either, so even those that can sometimes clutch out in Trance Blow state will not work here.

They are basically free to bully

Cannot escape

Will struggle to help their allies

Compared to a 5% damage increase on a pretty long cooldown

I think it’s at the very least just as good, if not better.

[young compass]

I mean a grab on a trance blow opponent insta knocks them for 40-60 damage which is fine ig, getting two normal alphas in might be better but even that is kinda slow imo

[dawn wasp]

Beta insta knocks anyway

[young compass]

ig you can use your (2nd?) beta

[dawn wasp]

You’d rather run nothing than trance blow?

[young compass]

idk it just doesn't seem worth losing so much combo damage, combo potential, and skill expression to me

[young compass]

honestly yes xD

[dawn wasp]

Fair enough

[young compass]

but I can agree that running it might be more powerful on paper than not running it, but I wouldn't enjoy playing like that

[dawn wasp]

I hate Trance Blow with a passion, I will never run it in the long term though I have tried it here and there

Might not be optimal for self performance

But if you get hit by it, you will die more often than not

And if not directly by the trance blow, it will still leave you in a pretty bad situation

[young compass]

okay I just checked it's 93 damage in the worst case, I might have gp damage tune I don't remember

https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/3yOJbR

melee chain deals 120, first hit is 27, first hit is all you can get with trance blow so 120-27=93 damage you miss out on

tbf that's probably worst case

but grab melee alpha vs grab melee special action is also 80 damage, plus I think you can hit tipper after special action but can't on the ground

[young compass]

yeah I hate when ofa dekus run it, it's so darn annoying for no reason

[young compass]

I used to run it on denki and kendo before the downpower nerfs, I was part of the problem too don't worry 😂

[dawn wasp]

Not gonna blame you it’s part of the game

[dawn wasp]

It’s still significant for sure

[dawn wasp]

I use to hit it around 80% of the time but this season I just can’t do it anymore so I just go for Beta combos, which I find less fun and less exciting.
Also, having less Beta charges makes Trance Blow less good too.

[young compass]

less beta charges?

[dawn wasp]

Because I go from using 0 in my combo to 1

[young compass]

also ngl I never learned special into tipper I barely even really play this character anymore 😭

[dawn wasp]

So I have one less Beta for follow-up agression

[young compass]

ooooooooooooh, I was like do you know more about the upcoming balance patch than I do? xD

[young compass]

yup that makes sense

honestly I don't mind combing into alpha either, to save beta for wake up catches/chasing a target that's running from me/mobility

so I'll usually try to use alpha in combos unless I know beta will kill or is expendable like when I have 2 betas lying around so I may as well use one

[wanton ore]

I only have all the casual wear and just enough to fully make another tuning

Im gonna try out extra wind cz why not 🗣

[hollow lance]

I swear my life I’ll not let anyone destroy Nejire

[wanton ore]

Out of the variations what else could i use?

[lost blade]

https://gyazo.com/55a29e767094120bef254b25a96e6e35.gif

[wanton ore]

Monoma "mains" when people say nerf monoma

[hot bone]

"The power of friendship" ahh move

[ashen nebula]

wtf is that gif lmao

bro got the lore accurate stain beating

[lost blade]

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-academia-mha-my-hero-academia-season-2-my-hero-academia-s2-mha-season-2-gif-414037420581144687

[hollow lance]

Bro 😂
That’s priceless

[hushed stone]

I am convinced that you Tamaki mains are just taking advantage of the fact not a lot of people play him just so you can downplay him in hopes that he doesn't get nerfed.

[dawn wasp]

I don’t play him

[hushed stone]

THEN DON'T SPEAK ABOUT HIM.

[dawn wasp]

I still play the game?

And I mean I still have a lot of games on him

I just play a lot of characters

[hushed stone]

He's not that strong, but you don't play him!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?????????

[dawn wasp]

I’m just not a Tamaki main

[hushed stone]

Go play him, and you'll see why even other Tamaki mains say he's a little busted.

[dawn wasp]

He is strong

But Ochako was a far more pressing issue

I think I said he was top 10 but not top 5 last time I discussed it? Which is still very good

But I can totally accept being wrong

[hushed stone]

Doesn't matter who is a priority. They already dealt with Ochaco. Now those meta slaves are going to move onto characters like Tamaki and really show how stupid he can be.

[dawn wasp]

I think you took my message out of context

Someone said « why hasn’t he been nerfed »
I said that it wasn’t the priority and right after «  i wouldn’t mind a nerf » and « i don’t even play him »

You can disagree and I’m most likely wrong, I don’t really care anyway, but no need to get aggressive x)

I have the right to be wrong and dumb

[zenith vector]

been saying this

next season people are gonna start complaining abt him

bc once meta slaves pick up your character everyone gonna see how stupid that character can become

[hot bone]

Won't they be busy with the next meta characters

[wary spoke]

Is there any good use of ofa deku tuning for tamaki?

[dawn wasp]

During invisibility + ofa deku you have pretty high speed, but idk of any combos that become true w/ accel

[wary spoke]

grab into special into beta wasnt true i think so maybe this could work?

air melee into beta same i think

[ashen nebula]

ye I think that one works with accele now

[wary spoke]

oh nice

but i still see more value on wallrunner or perception

or twice tuning

[ashen nebula]

acceleration might help with gamma too?

[wary spoke]

oh yeah

need to see it

[ashen nebula]

but ye perception is pretty nice tho not as good 15s for him now

cause for gammaing someone with perception idk if they'd start healing in that time

am surprised I've only seen like 1 perception tamaki tho

[wary spoke]

i switch to perception if im 3 stack

in solo wallrunner or something else

[ashen nebula]

wouldnt think he needs wallrunner

[wary spoke]

its fine

currently i think spacehop better

[zenith vector]

the way i see it he gonna become beta next season idk 🤷

[ashen nebula]

he's been meta since he dropped

just not overly picked

[boreal knoll]

Surprised more people don’t play him he does crazy damage and is easy to play

Just stay mid-range and poke and when you grab someone combo into beta

[zenith vector]

the type of meta im talking about is like compress

he was always good

not as picked

then the movemnet change happened and he got picked up more

he's been really good but i meant like we might see an increase in tamaki players

[dawn wasp]

He has a grab, he’s been meta since his release.

Since Shinso was nerfed, Tamaki is probably more efficient even at lower skill level now? Idk

[zenith vector]

basically what im tryna say

[latent knot]

.

[latent knot]

he is kinda hopeless when u deplete your cooldowns more

and his Melee's are pretty dog water when u dont have ur alpha

[boreal knoll]

That's just a cooldown management issue because everyone is bad when you deplete their cooldowns too quick

[latent knot]

e

[zenith vector]

that's the same for everyone tho?

[latent knot]

some characters have rly short cooldowns so they are always fighting

so not everyone

[zenith vector]

but managing your cooldowns is a skill for everyone

and if we're talking about short cooldowns tamaki has short cooldowns on his alphas

[modern hollow]

Is embrittlement or space hop better for his fancy festival outfit?

[boreal knoll]

Embrittlement

[sage crest]

space hop tamaki makes me feel so dirty

[stark turret]

Not me, I feel great!

https://tenor.com/view/lol-no-goku-goku-black-power-super-saiyan-gif-15767569

[sage crest]

clean sequences

[stark turret]

Cook

[young compass]

do you remember what combo that was? cause that sounds like embrittlement, plus ultra, or both

[boreal knoll]

Or did they find the sacred Tamaki combo?

[young compass]

bonus points if you have a recording

[boreal knoll]

Highest damage one I could do is 376

[young compass]

is that the double melee chain into beta or is that with alpha grab start?

[boreal knoll]

I forgot the one you found does higher damage

Actually no wait I'm still right I said that I could do

[young compass]

yeah it does but it's situational af lol

[boreal knoll]

The one you found that starts from double melee does more

[young compass]

haha yup xD

[young compass]

it does but even that is less than 400 I think no tuning, so even that would need embrittlement with some red slots/melee damage tuning and/or PU

it might be possible with it plus embrittlement though

did the alpha pull land on you or no alpha pull?

and were you just slightly above ground and he did ground melees or fully in the air (slightly above ground unlocks his highest damaging combos)

also I suppose there's some extra combos he can do if you don't recover immediately against special action as soon as you can, and/or he has acceleration

r is what again?

special right?

and you're sure alpha pull landed right?

cause that would likely make the combo you got hit with alpha grab m1 m2 m3(cancel) special action

unless

there's a way to miss m1

omg I gotta test that

oh he missed beta?

do you know if you got knocked back by his melees? aka fell backwards a little, the jumped up if you had shield or dropped to the floor or also jumped up if you pressed jump if you had hp?

it does unless you exit a roll the exact same moment, sorry phone battery died >.<

hmm, would love to see what you saw 😂

nws nws, I was checking if you entered knockdown so your down power reset. the same would happen if enough time passed without you taking damage, but I suppose neither of these did maybe

hahahahaha

do you think special action was the last thing that hit you or no?

hahahahaha

gotcha

oh, oh, after the MAYBE, was that alpha unaimed or aimed?

cause if unaimed it likely wouldn't be true, unless accel actually enables that, maybe I need to test accel more

gotcha interesting

noted, everything

it still seems to me like there must have been a downpower reset somewhere

cause alpha grab m1 m2 special action would already knock down

that could help a bit with the damage part

but yeah my best guess rn is that it was actually two combos somehow disguised as one

but without seeing it I have no way of knowing sadly

this discussion gave me a few cool ideas though so ty!

[boreal knoll]

So are you testing Acceleration and melee misses to see if those do anything for him?

[young compass]

yup

if melee miss on an uplift alpha pull is possible, with accel you might be able to do alpha pull m2 m3(c) special action beta, which would be kinda ridiculous damage lol

[boreal knoll]

I actually haven’t tested Acceleration at all on him I’d have to do that as well

[young compass]

also the old special alpha alpha or special alpha beta might be accel viable

ah :\

woulda been cool for real

yup lol

[boreal knoll]

I guess it’s sadly lost media

[livid pawn]

Beta tracking is so strong, I was just using it upwards to get some height but I hit the Bakugo I was chasing lmao

I moved the camera so fast it actually caught him 😭

[lost blade]

Lol yeah. Never understood how some moves have better tracking than others. Or at all. But his beta is up there.

[sonic loom]

Still wouldn't do 478 so maybe it was a fake combo with an alpha before the beta

[young compass]

yeah I think so too, just that discussion gave me really fun ideas to try out, still haven't managed a usable melee skip though

like you can skip it but the cancel after becomes the issue then\

[sonic loom]

Ah

[sonic loom]

Is it just ur missing the cancel or u cant find what to do after the cancel?

[young compass]

nah the issue is alpha pull into m2

for manual cancel you need to delay m2, so you can't turn away from them, then back at them

[sonic loom]

So they hit the ground before the m2 comes out?

[young compass]

it might be possible with accel already active but even then I don't remember if m2 was true and or if with accel melee cancel into special action worked on grounded enemies, iirc my testing said no but I'm tired af rn so my memory is quite bad

[young compass]

yup pretty sure, with and without accel

[sonic loom]

Ah

[young compass]

and if you don't have accel active and need to turn away and then back, thern you can't cancel anymore cause cancel requires no movement input up untill the cancel

[sonic loom]

What if u tried using speed cards?

Maybe with accel plus speed cards u can hit them with m2 before they fall to the ground

[young compass]

thought about it, you might need accel + speed cards for the cancel to special part though

[young compass]

oh or that

maybe yeah

I'm way too tired rn

but if you wanna test be my guest

[sonic loom]

At school rn so not available

Maybe when I get home

[young compass]

well I'll be asleep for a while cause I've been up for illegally long

so uh yeah hf if try

you*

[desert sundial]

What's y'all builds

[boreal knoll]

Casual Wear Villain Embrittlement and Revenge Support

I'm experimenting with Acceleration to see what new combos there are with it and if there's enough cool ones I'm gonna build Casual default

[desert sundial]

I think beta melee beta might be possible with like a wall

[boreal knoll]

I doubt it his beta has 500 down power

[desert sundial]

I think I might just run default anyways tho for wall run crushing pu or something

[zenith vector]

grab special beta become true

[boreal knoll]

He has better combos than that

[zenith vector]

well im letting you know what is true

[desert sundial]

It does? Well then no you can't do anything

[zenith vector]

do i take off iron fist?

idk wht to replace it with

[boreal knoll]

I would replace it with Crushing PU Charge

[zenith vector]

oh alr

[boreal knoll]

Yeah

[desert sundial]

I mean that makes sense but I swore I saw a clip with him doing that

[boreal knoll]

I mean you can try it but I doubt you could do anything after beta

[desert sundial]

Im most likely mis rememberinf

But I'll try it later

[young compass]

there exists a roll no knockdown bug where when you catch someone at the end of a roll they may not get knocked down. but I think the next hit always knocks down still. I doubt it fully ignores the 500dp

and yeah default and dangerous casual wear are for the blue slot enjoyers, festival fancy for yellow villain slot enjoyers imo

[boreal knoll]

Wish there was an Embrittlement and Acceleration outfit but oh well

[young compass]

yeah giving all characters a blue hero yellow villain fit of sorts would be giga op

wallrunner/accel + qfr/embrittlement in some combination is good on basically every char

[sage crest]

Shhh

[young compass]

I'm honestly surprised the beta still caused knockdown there, just not hard knockdown. the only time I saw it happen with tamaki the enemy didn't even enter knockdown, and the way red kendos do it doesn't cause knockdown either iirc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=IjgLjf3JWrI&t=495s

[zenith vector]

so just shinso?

[sage crest]

The bug where it leaves you grounded is evil because then you just take way more damage

That one is rare tho

[young compass]

gotcha lol

[young spruce]

Dude, did they get rid of the alpha pull+melee+sa+beta combo? It suddenly doesn't work for me anymore, after I've been doing it with ease for a very long time.
It did start not working around when I tuned him (Perception and trance blow) could trance blow perhaps be the reason??? If so, that's really stupid and the devs should fix that asap because it should not cause invincibility that literally trashes character combos.

[sonic loom]

1. Tranceblow just makes opponents get knockdowned faster for balancing reasons bc combos would be really easy with ur opponent being slowed
2. The combo u mentioned isnt true so id reccomend alpha pull+melee 1+melee 2+beta bc people with brains will just get out of the combo

[young spruce]

Rightttt
However, it is a real combo.. I do it all the time, its one of his best, imo

thats with tuning off, so yeah the issue was def trace blow. i figured since it makes the victim invincible, not sure why i didn't think about that before putting it on
Gonna have to replace trance blow

[young spruce]

Okayyy i have another question

Why TF

Is this not going up despite me KOing people with his gamma constantly

Sometimes it registers, sometimes it doesnt. Does this with other chars too

[young compass]

I punish tamakis going for it all the time

prolly works in anything before ace though, and in ace prolly a little less than half the time

[young spruce]

Interesting
im in ace and i pull it off every time

guess it depends on the other player

[young compass]

but yeah trance blow does that and it's very necessary or you'd get one shot by beamers with it all the time

[young spruce]

right

[young compass]

tbf I never try so idk what success rate it should have, all I'm saying is if they know to wake up and have a projectile/grab/dash they can punish the beta endlag

[young spruce]

yeaa

[young compass]

there are some other true combos you can do instead that even deal more damage but all of them have some condition, like for example you need to know how to manual melee cancel or the enemy has to be pulled in such a way that they hover slightly above the ground for the follow up and such. but as mystic said m1 m2 beta is a good and true alternative and if you can jump before the pull or are pulling in the air, then pull, air melee, alpha/beta is a good and importantly quick alternative too, although the beta variant has some weird timing component to it that I'm not sure if it's different timing vs gp and hp or not.

[young spruce]

Yeah, i use all his combos, they're great. I stick with the basic one if I'm in a bind fs

[young compass]

define all, cause me and some others are still testing the limits of what you can do with him

tbf mostly wondering if accel can create some whacky new combos

which btw if you equip acceleration you can keep going for the combo you mentioned cause it makes that combo true when it's active

[young spruce]

What do you mean? It works regardless if you have acceleration

[young compass]

IF the opponent doesn't wake up

[young spruce]

Personally, I never have that problem

[young compass]

if you want we could go into training mode in a bit so I can show you what happens if the enemy wakes up

I'm just not at my pc rn

but if it works for you and you wanna keep using the combo that's chill too

[young spruce]

The basic one, alpha+melee+beta, alpha+melee+sa+beta, alpha+sa+beta, alpha+melee+sa+alpha, alpha+sa+2 alphas (swordfish), full melee+alpha, sa+alpha (pull)+beta, and more smaller ones
Sorry that took so long I had to check my notes
Those are what I'm aware of atm

[young spruce]

I don't always use that combo, I usually use the easier ones since things are often too chaotic
We could do that, I don't think its super needed tho!

[young compass]

no worries, and yes those are some, and probably the tamaki combos you'll see used the most. there's some others that might be worth learning with the most useful ones probably being these:

is tne second one playing for you? it isn't for me

[young spruce]

Ohh sick
The only thing I don't like is that longish pause in the melee

yes its playing for me

[young compass]

ok awesome

[young spruce]

Discord glitch I think, gifs I send sometimes dont play for me

Until later

[young compass]

the pause in the melee is necessary for the alpha variant, whereas it's not necessary for the beta version. however for the beta version the enemy can't be in contact with the ground

[young spruce]

Rightt

[young compass]

technically this is a combo that's possible but I doubt you'd ever get it in a match

and then there's a few I can't source gifs for

[young compass]

idk if the delayed melee is 100% true vs gp btw but I doubt most characters have a fast enough action to take in the air so this should always be guaranteed

also the gif is doing it more slowly than necessary but only by a little bit

[young compass]

it's really up to you if you wanna. I'm sure I'd have time for it, so it's up to you

[dawn wasp]

It's not, people can tech out before the beta

Maaaaybe acceleration makes it true, no idea

But without taking tunings into consideration, it's never been true

[young spruce]

What exactly do y'all mean by a true combo

Because i thought that just meant it being real

Never heard of this term in rumble before

[young compass]

I'd describe a true combo as
a combo for which in a 1v1 scenario, if the first hit lands uninterrupted, all consecutive hits are guaranteed to land as well

so alpha pull melee special action beta is not "true" because the beta is not guaranteed if the enemy presses jump to wake up early from the special action

whereas alpha beta as a simple example is true cause once the alpha lands, beta is guaranteed to land as well

[young compass]

alpha pull melee special action is the true part of that combo, and beta is an untrue continuation, whereas alpha would be a true continuation

[young spruce]

Ohhhhhhhh. I totally misunderstood then yeah, I thought you guys were saying that other wasn't a combo at all and I was a little confused

That makes sense

[young compass]

gotcha ^^
yeah it's a combo, just not a "true" one

[dawn wasp]

Normally, a combo is a sequence where every hit is guaranteed after the first one. In games where this is not as cut and clear, like Smash Bros, we use the term "true combo" to mean that it is indeed a combo that is unescapable

[young spruce]

Ahh okay

[boreal knoll]

Crushing PU Charge is a good replacement

[boreal knoll]

I think you have to down with his gamma I could be wrong though

[young spruce]

Ohh okay I was thinking that. Both down and ko probably

[wet horizon]

Stop hating on my boy

[sage crest]

With all the nerfs all around Tamaki has probably jumped somewhere in the top 3

[livid pawn]

Y'know I hope Tamaki gets another costume banner soon

I've just been rocking the casual wear which is fine but it's nice having other options

[pulsar blade]

Lf Tamaki tuning

[sage crest]

perception crushing pu on the casual

space hop willpower / crushing on the other skin i forgot

or perception space hop on another

idk the exact skins but you'll find the blue red, yellow red, blue yellow special tunes if you scroll

and u can do acceleration too if u want

ppl like the melee damage tunes (iron fist, embrit) but lowkey spamming air beta is good enough damage imo

[wet horizon]

Yeeee that’s what i said, i thought he was gonna get cyber hero next season or at least UA track 😭 like monoma got released a season before him and already has like 4 skins🥹

[heavy wasp]

I asked this in the Hawks thread as well, but is there anything I can do about getting knocked out of my beta? For example, I had a Froppy chasing me, tried to beta her, and her (I think it’s beta, the tongue swipe in an arc) kept knocking me out of my beta. There have been other instances where a dash would clash/counter my dash and knock me down without doing my damage.

[boreal knoll]

Sounds like you're just going for raw beta. Do you know of Tamaki's combos?

[heavy wasp]

I’ve seen some now scrolling through here. I’m a new player so I might’ve explained my question wrong here. I was wondering if there is any standard in terms of who knocks who out of a dash melee. Is it basically whatever hit registers first, meaning most abilities don’t have super armor?

[desert sundial]

Abilities with super armour are indicated by a yellow glow on the character

Besides that, it does depend on who hits who first but most hits like that just trade

[heavy wasp]

Got it. Thank you

[loud niche]

did good for my first time using him

[royal canopy]

is it possible to hold alpha -> special action -> alpha -> beta consistently?

[boreal knoll]

No. There are better combos you can do after you grab someone

[royal canopy]

what are they?

im new to him

[boreal knoll]

Tamaki Amajiki

Grab alpha -> Melee 1 -> Special Action -> Alpha (non-tipper) = 291 (With Embrittlement active after first Melee. Useful if beta is on cooldown)

Grab alpha -> Melee 1 -> Melee 2 -> Melee 3 3 hits -> Alpha (Melee cancel into the alpha. Better than previous combo damage-wise)

Grab alpha -> Melee 1 -> Melee 2 -> Melee 3 3 hits -> Beta = 376 (With Embrittlement active after first Melee. Combo works more consistently on enemies that were grabbed while they were airborne and not too close to the ground. Can make opponent airborne on command if you grab right before you hit the ground so you’re less reliant on enemies putting themselves in the air and can instead force them to be in the air)

Grab alpha -> Melee 1 -> Melee 2 -> Beta = 304 (With Embrittlement active after first Melee)

Note: Use these combos if you grab someone in the air

Air grab alpha -> Special Action -> Alpha = 233

Note: Use these combos when Special Action isn’t available

Air grab alpha -> beta = 231

Air grab alpha -> Air melee -> Alpha (non-tipper) = 234 (With Embrittlement active after Air Melee)

Ignore damage numbers those are for my build specifically

If you need visuals on any of the combos listed I can record them later

[royal canopy]

dang tysm

[royal canopy]

is special action -> grab alpha -> beta also decent if theyre close up?

[boreal knoll]

I'd have to test the damage on that and see if the Special Action and grab alpha combined is too much down power but if that does land it sounds decent if they're up close

[royal canopy]

i tested it and it seems to work, it doesnt knock until the beta

its kinda hard to pull off tho since u need decent aim

[boreal knoll]

You'll get better at aiming it the more you play

[royal canopy]

what should i level first as him?

[boreal knoll]

#1397500254080864387 message

He excels at mid-range to punish people stepping out of position and to poke with his own alphas. You want to be looking for chances to grab as that is where most of his combos start from and his combos are his damage

Alpha - Use to poke, hit from afar when beta would be too slow, and chase. Chasing with it is very nice as when spaced right it can do tremendous damage with the tipper. You should be looking to be spaced properly if you want to use alpha since the grab and marlin both have good range and again he is a mid-range fighter so he should be spacing when he can anyway.

Beta - Big burst damage and what you want to end your combos with if possible. The tracking is really stupid as well. I wouldn't suggest spamming beta since people have learned how to deal with it (you shouldn't have been spamming it either way). Hitting beta gives you a chance to reposition which is super important as again he needs to be positioned well to do well. The reposition chance also lets you run away which is always a nice option to have. His beta is also super good at being a mobility tool

Gamma - Long range support tool that should mainly be used to cover for teammates or finish off kills. If you happen to see like an entire team in a building though feel free to shoot a laser in there and see if you can get some surprise damage or even a down. Again I say, position well when you use this or you will get absolutely shredded.

Special Action - Really good vertical mobility. Has niche uses in combos but overall just a good mobility tool

General gameplay will be you standing slightly behind your team looking for chances to pick someone off with a grab and once you grab someone depending on the terrain you have combo options available to you which are linked here #1397500254080864387 message.

If you get jumped he has Special Action and beta to run away with but Tamaki definitely prefers 1v1s if possible. If opponents try to get too close to you he is weaker up close compared to other characters unless you can get chances to melee which can then convert into combos. Problem is other characters have better close-ranged options than him so if possible I'd beta them, reposition, and start slinging alphas again to try and get a grab (this guy really loves his space as you can tell by now). If you're farther away from your team but they need help in a fight try to send a gamma their way.

Those are what I'd consider the absolute basics of Tamaki

[heavy wasp]

Very helpful info here thanks. Are suggested tunings somewhere in the history of this chat?

[dawn wasp]

I think they are but since, for some reason, the character chats are not channels, you cannot search for messages in a specific character discussion, making it super tedious to find

[ashen nebula]

Uh you can

Was changed a while ago

[dawn wasp]

I don’t have this update then

[desert sundial]

Finally

[boreal knoll]

Casual Wear - Perception/Card Duplication/GP Sucker and Willpower/Crushing PU Charge

This build has a lot of options you can pick from. Perception helps with gamma snipes on people running away, Card Duplication gets him faster levels for him and his team, GP Sucker is a nice survivability increase, and Crushing PU Charge and Willpower are always good Strike tunes on offensive characters
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Casual Wear (Villain Style) - Embrittlement and Revenge Support/Divine Protection

Embrittlement is just a straight up damage buff since Tamaki is using melee in almost every combo and Revenge Support grants him some nice survivability during a fight. Divine Protection is also good in general for supportive play
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Casual Wear (Dangerous) - Perception/Card Duplication/GP Sucker and Space Hop

Space Hop provides access to easier alpha grabs over walls and other opponents while also giving him extra height to use Special Action from
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Festival Outfit (Heat) - Crushing PU Charge/Willpower and Space Hop

Generally good set most characters can run
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Festival Outfit (Fancy) - Embrittlement and Critical Permeation/High-Speed Replenishment/Fixer

I’d say this is his best outfit because again Embrittlement is a free damage increase and Critical Permeation and High-Speed Replenishment are both tunes that are incredibly good for surviving. This outfit also has good regular tunes on the column with a Technical special slot which means you can run Fixer as well
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Festival Yukata (Dangerous) - Crushing PU Charge and Willpower

Make sure to slot Willpower on the right column for the 30 seconds shaved off its cooldown

[hollow kiln]

Dear Tamaki players, why are you the worst people on the planet lol

I've seen 3 Tamakis today with slurs in their name, and just be so awful

[storm notch]

So that makes me the only one that doesn’t have a slur

[desert sundial]

There aren't many ppl that play him for his character and thus you get superficial shi like that

[boreal knoll]

Mine isn't a slur if that makes you feel any better my in-game name is the same as my Discord name

[hollow kiln]

Well thats good lol

[hollow kiln]

Yeh. Feels like a lot of people play him to be obnoxious with his grab but less a metaslave than Shinso players.

[heavy wasp]

Does it take a while for matchmaking to settle? I felt like I was doing alright last season and now I’m getting my face kicked in

[last bison]

Wall runner on tamaki is slept on…

[boreal knoll]

I usually wait like a week after a season starts

[livid pawn]

My problem with Wallrunner is that it screws me over more often than not

[boreal knoll]

It can be good but in my opinion a bit redundant. Having the option to perform wall run tech whenever you want is nice though

[livid pawn]

It's why I had to drop Iida 😔

Also dude hasn't gotten a new emote since launch, what's up with that

[last bison]

I’ve been using wallrunner on tamaki since he dropped and i never changed it its so helpful in a lot of situations

Especially with tamaki bcs his movement is not that great like the moment u use all of ur betas ur done

[boreal knoll]

We’ve still gotta check out his claws I guess

And eat some more bugs

[boreal knoll]

All of his betas is all I need 99% of the time whenever I play

Or only even one if I hit someone with beta and run away with that

[last bison]

I use the betas to catch people wake up so im always left with no movement what so ever

[boreal knoll]

Beta is too risky of an attack to catch wake ups with

If you miss it you get punished and lose out on a beta

[last bison]

But it’s rewarding if u hit it

[boreal knoll]

I prefer using either Special Action so even if I miss I have high ground or being patient and waiting for another grab

[boreal knoll]

True it is a lot of damage and definitely keeps pressure up but it ain’t for me. If it works for you it works for you though everyone plays differently

[last bison]

I do it 2 times like a catch his wake up and then he get knocked and the i hit him again and it always work and it does a lot of dmg 2 betas in a row is something

And then u beam him out of the sky or whatever

[boreal knoll]

Are the people you’re fighting mashing on wake up or something I never get betas like that

[last bison]

Sometimes but I always run and like make some space so i can easily catch the wake up

[livid pawn]

Was talking about Iida there 😅

[boreal knoll]

Ooooh okay my bad 😭

[livid pawn]

It's fair for Tamaki not to get anything new yet since he hasn't been here long

[boreal knoll]

Yeah why hasn’t Iida gotten a new emote

[last bison]

But I don’t always use the betas to I honestly focus on the alpha more I don’t even lvl the beta until i max my alpha which some people say its stupid but i think it’s better

[boreal knoll]

It’s not recommended yeah but if it works for you it works for you

[last bison]

It does and I don’t know how it’s working

There used to be a some sort of a glitch or something but it allowed u to hit the tip of the alpha with every shot but in season 13 its like it’s patched I can’t do anymore and it was busted 130 per alpha was crazy

[boreal knoll]

That bug is so dumb it’s so much extra damage

[final yoke]

how good is rapid deku's tunning on tamaki ?

[boreal knoll]

It's kinda eh. I was hoping it'd be better and unlock combo routes but it doesn't really do much for him. Faster animations and movement speed is still nice though

[final yoke]

okkk

should i equip it instead of iida's tuning ?

[storm notch]

I did get to do one new combo route, idk if I can do it again.

[boreal knoll]

I'd put Wall Runner over it honestly

[boreal knoll]

Oh? What was it?

[storm notch]

It was likely m1’ing like two times and repeating that, then an special action and likely an grab alpha, I’ll try if I can do it again

I was able to do this combo faster with acceleration

[boreal knoll]

If you hit it can you clip it?

[storm notch]

Ok

I got the clip of it, I’m gonna share it soon

[storm notch]

@boreal knoll

I removed one extra m1 because that caused the downpower of my combo

Another but replaced grab alpha with beta

The beta thing also downs someone with an assault character too💔

[boreal knoll]

Try 1 2 1 2 beta

[storm notch]

I did that

Here’s the clip

[boreal knoll]

Looks sick but I'd have to see how much damage it does

200+ for sure

[storm notch]

This mirio was low so idk how much it did

Ima tell how much dmg

First with assault then with no assault

[young compass]

253 in the clip

[storm notch]

Thanks

[young compass]

🩷

the special action instead of m2 variant should do around 53 damage more and is acceleration exclusive I think

[storm notch]

Yeah, and with an attack card, it does almost all of their hp at max

I tested

For assault btw

Ima test it without assault

[young compass]

yup nice

[storm notch]

And it does almost ALL their hp too without strike card

now with strike card

[young compass]

I didn't think about what the highest damage non cancelable melee start combos would be but it might be these, likely will be

[storm notch]

THATS ENOUGH TO DOWN SOMEONE

I just tried it

[young compass]

hahaha

[storm notch]

I’m gonna try mixing my acceleration with iron fist

[young compass]

also you can test m1 special alpha grab beta. it should do similar damage to the other special action combo while not being accel exclusive

[storm notch]

Alright

I’ll see about it

[young compass]

sounds solid

[storm notch]

My build for him

[young compass]

yup it's a nice costume that gets good options

if you wanna min max you could swap around some small slots though

[storm notch]

If it had more damage slots, I’d focus on either my beta damage

And gamma

[young compass]

I usually play on too high frame rates for gamma to be useful :c

[storm notch]

But the good options might be casual wear dangerous and and festival outfit fancy

[young compass]

for sure

[storm notch]

for the fancy version of festival outfit, the main tuning I would try is embrittlement and fixer

[young compass]

I was planning to build casual wear default when he came out and perception was unnerfed. I might still go for a blue slot build but casual dangerous getting space hop is looking nice too (I don't have festival outfit)

[young compass]

yup I'd likely do the same

the amount of damage he could do

oh boy

[storm notch]

Yeah

I want to see what his damage would be for embrittlement when I finally get monoma

[boreal knoll]

He has a lot of good outfits surprisingly even though he only has two PURs

[storm notch]

Yeah

When he gets another PUR, I’ll check if there are any good damage option

[young compass]

I've been running the default budget skin with it and it is nice

[livid pawn]

Man nothing beats the feeling of landing a Gamma cannon a mile away

[boreal knoll]

I love landing it in general

[storm notch]

Same

[livid pawn]

I accidentally used it while doing a combo and I still landed it 😭

Was some point blank shii

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-destiny-deoxys-rayquaza-vs-deoxys-deokishisu-vs-rekkuuza-versus-dragon-type-pokemon-gif-27382420

[boreal knoll]

Having a true combo into gamma would be the funniest combo in the game

[storm notch]

Just imagine special action with an gamma😭

[boreal knoll]

That would be evil and I'd love it

[last bison]

U can do all of these combo without acceleration

There look

[storm notch]

Makes it faster so u don’t have to worry about them punishing you (I learnt it the hard way)

But yeah

Your right about it without acceleration

[last bison]

What do u mean punishing u like escape it

[storm notch]

Yes

Sometimes my controller wanna geek out

[last bison]

Its all true

They can’t escape

[storm notch]

I’ll check it out

My beta either just goes down the floor, or I mispress an move

[last bison]

I don’t know I’ve been doing this combo since the character dropped and it always worked

[mossy dagger]

does acceleration work on suneater?

[boreal knoll]

It's not as good as other Rapid slot options

[mossy dagger]

my last one was wallrunner

[boreal knoll]

Wall Runner works if you vibe with it

I personally don't think he needs it but a movement buff is never bad

[livid pawn]

I massively fw Perception

[boreal knoll]

Perception is also good

[livid pawn]

Makes a nice target for the Gamma

[boreal knoll]

I wanna try Perception on him one day but for now I've got too many characters to build

Okay maybe not too many but a few

[ashen nebula]

SA into beta isn’t true without acceleration

They can wake up

Something bots can’t

The only reason why you hit it is because some players don’t know you can wake up, more experienced will

[glass marsh]

is suneater gamma even worse using on pc feels so slow and clunky

[last bison]

I was talking about the double melee but yeah the special action isn’t true

[mild prawn]

on console it just has a faster turn rate it’s not that big of an issue

[boreal knoll]

If you're at 60 FPS or lower the gamma turns faster and 120 and above it turns slower

[glass marsh]

should i cap my fps to 60 when playing him them?

[boreal knoll]

If you don’t mind the FPS loss sure

[glass marsh]

my monistor maxes at like 74 dont think it would be a big hit my game is prob running a higher fps then my monitor can pick up

[young compass]

even at 90 ish fps it's noticeably slow

[boreal knoll]

Really? Dang they hate his gamma…

[young compass]

capping it at 60 with him feels like cheating ngl. a borderline useless ability suddenly becomes kinda op

[young compass]

yeah :c

I capped to 93 to try it for aizawa combos

[boreal knoll]

Does lower FPS make his combos better?

[young compass]

aizawa?

it's complicated

for some lower is better

for some higher is better

apparently 93 lets you do everything most consistently

I still haven't actually tried most of the combos though

gotta see if it makes an actual difference

or rather see if I go back to 240 if my consistency with certain combos will drop

[glass marsh]

does it change the speed while firing or while aiming?

[young compass]

both

while aiming it's most noticeable but while firing it's more relevant I'd say

[dawn wasp]

I play with high fps and Tamaki’s gamma basically doesn’t move at all 🤣

[young compass]

yeah lol. it's just for finishing off bodies basically

[dawn wasp]

Yeah

[livid pawn]

I try to sway it at a distance typically, like where ever my team mates are being attacked

Usually works out

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-omni-man-laser-you-wouldnt-dare-gif-22438539

[boreal knoll]

Yeah with it moving slower than a snail at higher FPS I only use it to finish off bodies or use it on my teammates when I'm far away but want to try helping in their fight

The idea is to buy them some time with giant laser wall

[ashen nebula]

@wary spoke I played bad that game but I thought you woulda helped me with that first fight

never really got to take full advantage of my build till the end

[wary spoke]

ohh np

yea im looting always

im a solo player in first place
bad habbit sorry xd

i had a lot of level cards for you at the end

wanted to give you but you where fighting every time xd

so i died with 10 level cards

🫠

[ashen nebula]

rip

I got enough to get pu in the end anyway

the cards did help

[pallid ingot]

anyone got a good tuning that dosent require casual wear?

[boreal knoll]

#1397500254080864387 message

[glass marsh]

i know its unranked still learning him atm but a pretty good match i think

[stark turret]

Ya think?

[glass marsh]

idk how people feel on unranked scoreboards

[stark turret]

Who cares what they think you still cooked
Besides unranked isn't that much different from ranked anyway

[glass marsh]

i appreciate that

[stark turret]

The pleasure is all mine

[viscid hornet]

which tamaki ability should i tune the most

im thinking beta

[boreal knoll]

Honestly unranked can be sweatier than ranked because there's no MMR so you could get John Rumble who's been playing since 12 AM on release day as an enemy and you could be paired with two people who started playing as soon as they got on your team. Getting good results in unranked is still getting good results just like how getting good results in training for a sport is still you getting good results doesn't matter if the medium is competitive or not

[stark turret]

Exactly

[livid pawn]

Tbh I think playing well in Unranked is valued now more than ever with the Present Box existing.

Most peeps are gonna be playing to guaranteed farm for rewards without potentially losing Ranked positions

[boreal knoll]

Sucks that the boxes have gallery pieces

[livid pawn]

Yeah true, though I will take it over literal mountains of useless Gold.

10 million btw, if this garbage ever gets a use I'll be loaded.

[stark turret]

Same

[glass marsh]

it was all thanks to the build you gave me tbh that and the combos also read a post from you saying you dont use gamma to wakeup catch and use special action its all been a massive help in learning him

[boreal knoll]

I helped you? I'm really surprised by that I'm always worried that my advice/tips are bad 😅

But yeah I don't see any other Tamaki wake up catch with Special Action I find it helpful because if I hit it then I can a grab alpha into beta and if I miss I still have high ground to either run away or use the swordfish alpha

[glass marsh]

yea even you describing his character as a zoner helped a lot made me use my alpha un aimed to pepper then try to do big punishes with the grab although i do certainly need to improve and landing the grabs and cooldown mangement.

i think its almost always good the onkly time i dont use it is like against a blue deku who i just know will hit me faster which in that case beta wouldnt help me either so i just keep distance try to punish with gamma after a greedy play or somthing.

your a true inspieration i still have no idea how to do the grab melee melee melee beta combo so i just use two melees its consistant enough

[boreal knoll]

Yeah alpha grabs are definitely something you want to punish people with it is how you're going to do most of your damage on him. If you're fighting someone like Ibara you definitely want to pepper them with the swordfish like you say you do until she misses an alpha then you punish with grab because if you try to only use the grab and you miss you're eating a fat Ibara alpha which definitely does some damage. And what greedy plays are you punishing with gamma?

[boreal knoll]

Geez you're gonna make me blush you give me too much credit...

As for doing the triple melee into beta you have to grab the enemy in a way where you're in the air and about to touch the ground so they get put into the air while you're grounded which buys you enough distance from the ground to land the combo. If you grab someone who's already in the air though you don't need to do that set up. Here's a video to show what I mean https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1404372882519363604/1441524924488351784/MedalTVMYHEROULTRARUMBLE20251121152410462-tr-edit-tr-edit-tr-edit.mp4?ex=692ca834&is=692b56b4&hm=ccbdc24733b30babd5cf9c8adf074d184a63b581da487d3bf93a44a77ea60686&

All I'm doing in that video is a dash jump into the grab. All For One is a taller character which makes the combo more consistent but for shorter characters you should wait a teensy bit longer to grab so you're closer to the floor when you grab which makes hitting it on shorter characters more consistent

[glass marsh]

sorry i meant punishing with beta not gamma i really just use gamma to air stall, deny revives and or heals or just to peal teamates from far. sometimes if i dont know what to do and im safe i just fire it the change that lets it phase into walls is quite nice.

yea when i first started i was just trying to grab people to do the combo and it did not feel good i kept getting punished, i do still need to learn ranges though of all his moves still iffy on that

are you canceling the melee hit with sprint or can you cancel straight into beta this is helpfull though i didnt know it needed to be done in the air tbh

[boreal knoll]

Dude I LOVE the change to make it phase into walls I used to have to use it in the air so I don't get screwed over by slopes and walls making it aim up. I think punishing with grab alpha is still better than raw beta since combos do more damage but it depends on if his team is about to jump you because if they are just hit the raw beta and dip.

Learning the ranges will definitely help your spacing out a ton and Tamaki LOOOOOOOOOOOVVESS spacing properly learning to space with him is vitally important

[boreal knoll]

No I'm not cancelling the melee hit I'm just doing beta as soon as the third hit from his third melee connects

The third melee has 4 hits to it so just wait until the third one and then beta

[glass marsh]

trust me when i get in that tipper range and hit someojne like twice with max alpha like say after i embrittle them it feels so good, i just think i miss alot of grabs becuase its shorter then i think it would be, which is very fair any longer and i think hed be even more busted.

im just not comfortable like punishing like in the air with the grab i really need to get better at that is his air shots it feels werid so if im airborn i nornmally just betta to punish otherwise i do try to pull

[glass marsh]

ill try it tonight when i get one at least a little bit might be some time before i use it practically still trying to understand fundementals.

[boreal knoll]

Aiming with alpha while falling down is tricky that's for sure and in that case unless your aim is giga cracked beta would generally be better yeah

[boreal knoll]

Yeah definitely practice in training! Once you have that combo down I have another combo that also does more damage than the melee 1 -> melee 2 -> beta combo that you're doing now! It does require learning his melee cancel timing though but trust me once you learn it you'll be doing that combo a lot I've been doing it pretty consistently myself!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/715018162885623839/1434297818226364647/MedalTVMYHEROULTRARUMBLE20251101174604-tr-edit.mp4?ex=692cbb6f&is=692b69ef&hm=41f632889264944aab0a0a97464e055d43c4d61e1a246fe866b1c517358ebd56&

That's what the melee cancel combo looks like

Oh yeah also if you ever wanna practice together in training we can do that as well

[glass marsh]

ill lyk it might honestly be helpful even just running 1v1s to see how you play the character and such

[modern hollow]

Any changes I should make to my amajiki build?

Part of me was debating putting space hop and running yellow shig in the fixer slot for the melee attack power

Also debating swapping overhaul and kurogiri just so melee defense gets the fixer slot

[boreal knoll]

Alrighty if you think it'd help we can do that

[misty yew]

Youth afo special tuning is so good on tamaki his beta basically has no cooldown it is so broken

[boreal knoll]

I thought I replied to this oops sorry. This looks really solid the only thing I'd change is One For All Deku for Rapid All Might since the Run Speed+ is bugged and doesn't work

Space Hop is a good tune on him if you want to give up Embrittlement's 10% damage increase for easier alpha usage but if you're wanting to maximize damage I'd keep Embrittlement there as the 10% damage increase is WAY too good for his combo damage

I'd keep Chisaki there personally since there's not many characters who use melee that often while gamma's damage increase you'll be using more often

Sorry if that was too wordy

[modern hollow]

Fair enough

[modern hollow]

I honestly love this character

[boreal knoll]

He's so fun I love him in this game and in the show

Also

New Tamaki combo for you guys

First one is on GP second one is on HP

[modern hollow]

The video isn’t working for me

[mild prawn]

gut this character i don’t even main him btw

[boreal knoll]

He’s a fun guy

[boreal knoll]

Rats 😭

Discord is so dumb man why do some videos only work sometimes or on some devices

[boreal knoll]

Try now

https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/lCyJKLsuRKtegdskq

https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/lCyKVqLToVeV07f3E

[stark turret]

Agreed

[mild prawn]

fun to play but horrible to fight

[boreal knoll]

Basically yeah

[mild prawn]

ppl try say this is balanced btw😭

[boreal knoll]

He does need nerfs

[boreal knoll]

Bro is not balanced

Love the guy but he should not have 350 HP, 7 alphas at level 9, or insane tracking on the beta

And his cannon needs to be a constant speed no FPS jank

Either everyone gets to move it fast or no one gets to move it fast

[mild prawn]

he can also be used as a beamer too it’s insane

[mild prawn]

yea

[boreal knoll]

Yeah I suggested lowering the alpha count to 4 at level 9 because having 7 chances to grab someone for 300+ damage is crazy

Or they can keep the 7 but make grab alphas take 2 charges

[modern hollow]

You don’t get the rage imma cause now I know these actual work

[boreal knoll]

They do :3

[modern hollow]

Absolute cinema

[boreal knoll]

Do you know how to melee cancel as him though? You're gonna wanna learn how to do that to perform that combo and another one that's good

[modern hollow]

I don’t