Neito Monoma

[carmine badger]

But simply just making him able to do it less or making it take a lot longer to be able to do it again doesn’t really fix the problem

[tough lotus]

Yes thats also the only thing that makes him unique. You have claimed multiple times that he can only be super broken or super weak but that isnt true. He is supposed to have a weakness but the numbers just need to be tweaked. If his special action cooldown was longer than he could still be just as strong and fun as he is now but he would have to use his base kit for longer in between uses of his quirks switch. Because of him staying in base form for longer, he will have to use his base moves more to defend himself, which will make it more likely for him to need to hit moves and swap his moves out. So yes my solution also makes him hold on to more powerful specific quirks less often

[carmine badger]

If I have a super ultra, mega Insta kill move but it’s a nine hour cool down. It’s still a horrible move and annoying to go against

No, normally with a character who has this they have their own downsides like maybe the super ultra mega Insta kill move on a character with no mobility so it’s hard for them to do

Monoma can just take quirks that will help him do that or just use his basic kit that can also help him

[tough lotus]

Eh my message is a fine rebuttal. I'll be back later

[carmine badger]

It is what makes him unique but that doesn’t mean that this is healthy for the game. I genuinely just think monoma as he is now just shouldn’t exist, but it’s too late now.

And I say he’s either going to be super busted or super weak because of the nerf you’re suggesting right now

if you Nerf the number is too much no one is going to use him because he’ll be weak. If you don’t know him enough he’s still going to just be as strong.

As soon as you start nerfing numbers like these, it really is a pendulum, depending on how much you Nerf and I don’t know if this character has a Goldilocks zone where there’s just the right number that will keep him strong, but not OP

But to be honest, I’ll take your word on it

I can’t 100% say for certain that this wouldn’t work

And you play him so your opinion matters much more than mine in this

[tough lotus]

You're just so wrong. True monoma players arent going to stop playing him. If annoying spammers stop playing him because of a minor-moderate nerf then good. But he will still be a fun and powerful character. You are wayy too scared of nerfing monoma lol

I'm not even considering gutting him

He just needs a healthy special action nerf

And i wont feel as bad about playing him

There's just a lot of people playing him cuz he is "The Best" rn. Once there is something a tiny bit easier to spam, there will be a large migration

[carmine badger]

I’m not talking about the hard-core players and there’s still people who play tech Dabi ffs

I’m telling you about your average person booting up the game and who doesn’t really have a main

People like Hawks just don’t see a lot of play anymore for what I’m saying rn

[carmine badger]

The question is where is “healthy” numbers wise

cause when you start nerfing numbers, you really need to be careful on how much you nerf

[tough lotus]

Yeah i dont want low level players picking up monoma and spamming with him. Hes a high skill cieling character and my nerfs would make players think more about positioning and when to use their special action without making him less fun (like the health nerf)

I'm keeping his strenth but adding some weaknesss

Thats all he needs rn

(Also i was an afo main before this and i understand your fear of nerfing him too much)

I would never give him the afo special action treatment 💀

That was just killing a character

[carmine badger]

The thing is no matter what

Any little Timmy can walk in front of a tamaki gamma and be a blight on the universe

Have you heard of my nerf suggestion? It would be much cooler if he was a more of an on the fly character. Taking quirks left and right and making do with what he gets

[carmine badger]

I hate monoma but I think everyone is entitled to having their character nice and cool

God forbid you wanted to play hawks while BYKING was looking at you

I’m really scared for yall because when it comes, to nerfs BYKING is hit or miss

I don’t want all of y’all gutted

I’m not going to act like it’s not cool to be able to mix and match quirks in unintended ways

There are some really cool combos you can do with this character assuming you get the right RNG with players

I really like his freedom of expression when it comes to playing him

I just don’t like the people who take something op and just spam it

Creative combos and what not is why I like this character

Like the strike Dabi + monoma stair case to dell with an h

[spring nimbus]

That’s why I believe if they just hit his SA values, monoma will see much less play. As I’ve now I’ve only seen a handful of actual competent monoma players, people who I could tell knew what there were doing and weren’t just spamming bs in the air. They could also tweak his acquisition of quirks too in some way

[tough lotus]

I just want to be able to use my dumb flight builds i posted here

[carmine badger]

I really don’t want to touch his quirk grabbing ability as much as I dislike it I think it shouldn’t be messed with too much because I think it should be simple and easy to grab quirks

And I’ve already spoken on why I dislike touching his sa values because it’s a really slippery slope

[carmine badger]

WTF?!?!?!

I thought he peaked with the assault shiggy gamma and kendo beta

[tough lotus]

Wait u havent seen my tech?

Ur missing out

[carmine badger]

I don’t play monoma…

I don’t even own him…

[tough lotus]

People who arent monoma players still know my tech

I do silly stuff every patch

Let me show you what i did this patch

[carmine badger]

I just go into the training range to test out something I thought of

[carmine badger]

Oh I already saw this!

[tough lotus]

Yeah that was a real match too

I got the other tech in a real match with bakugo beta instead of endeavor beta

[carmine badger]

^

[tough lotus]

And even got some downs with it

[tough lotus]

Thats not as cool. And strike deku beta from 50miles in the air doesnt work on my lobbies

I literally had thorn maiden in 5 games yesterday

[carmine badger]

I would take a shotgun and ring your doorbell

VERY COOL!!!

[tough lotus]

And that was on my alt

I hated that

Thorn maiden is the #1 Ibara player if you dont know

[spring nimbus]

And that’s thing, while this is cool af. You won’t be able to do this often because you need to get 3 different quirks, all before that character dies, you die, etc. The inconsistency of monoma is his biggest weakness imo. Like the yellow Shiggy and kendo tech Ive only been able to do in like 4 games since shes came out

[carmine badger]

Not as cool yes, but effective

And the option that is cool isn’t Gonna work

But I really want someone to hit a nejire with that

[tough lotus]

I stay out of range of anything that can hit me so its really consistent. The deku beta thing you really gotta hope people stand still

[carmine badger]

I’d cry

They’re not someone to be messed with I know I’d lose against them

[tough lotus]

I have beat them a few times but not in solo que lol

[carmine badger]

A.k.a. his opportunity cost

[carmine badger]

Lucky…

Im still expert to be honest

[carmine badger]

I mean, you can still somewhat maneuver while mid air but yeah…

But like imagine… you super jump to another monoma trying to live in the sky box and you pluck him out of the air like this

That’s clip worthy

[tough lotus]

Ohhhh i have been coaching @abstract sorrel recently since i have a really good ibara. Why dont you just send me some clips of you playing whoever and i can give you some tips. Are you a console or pc player?

[tough lotus]

Precisely. I am the alpha air camping monoma

[abstract sorrel]

Wsg

[tough lotus]

Ur my pupil

[abstract sorrel]

Kinda sorta

[tough lotus]

LOL

I coach you more than anyone else rn

[abstract sorrel]

Gangalang you can get ace easy

[tough lotus]

And you actually listen

[bold silo]

I think u pinged the wrong one

[tough lotus]

So that matters more than anything

[bold silo]

Thats my student how dare thee

[abstract sorrel]

Duh I like learning new characters

[tough lotus]

Both our student

He talks about you too

[abstract sorrel]

Even tho you haven’t taught me sht about todo 💔😭

[bold silo]

Wait you had two teachers this whole time and i thought i was-

I feel betrayed.

[tough lotus]

We havent talked on vc lol. And i taught you the double beta

[tough lotus]

I'm more recent

[abstract sorrel]

It’s mainly you, I just ask Luna for tips

[bold silo]

O

Okay

Todo teacher right

[tough lotus]

^

[bold silo]

O okay

[tough lotus]

I teach almost all characters since i mained toga, afo, and monoma. I was teaching him aida yesterday

[bold silo]

Ohh that explains why he suddenly picked up iida

And played quite decently

[abstract sorrel]

I wanted an aggressive character that’s safe to be aggressive 😭

[bold silo]

I remember this humble tenya main that would come to our ibara chat i wonder what happened to him

Ah yes tenya glitch

I wonder what happened to him

[abstract sorrel]

? Glitch

[tough lotus]

move to any other chat pls

this aint about my goat anymore

https://tenor.com/view/monomalaugh-monoma-mha-laugh-gif-17481760133489966120

[dry elbow]

😭

[bold silo]

HES ALIVE

[tough lotus]

i told him yall were here

but like GO TO AIDA CHAT

or ibara chat

pls

[bold silo]

Technically he is monoma is everywhere and anywhere

[tough lotus]

ibara chat though

we all play ibara

[bold silo]

Mehhh okayy

[carmine badger]

Ibara, solo q, switch

Every debuff known to man

[carmine badger]

Ky- I mean “I am not fond of that Playstyle”

[carmine badger]

Ibara, solo q, switch

[abstract sorrel]

I’m aware

We’ve played together

I’m saying you can still get there

[carmine badger]

https://tenor.com/view/monoma-kendo-chop-fall-my-hero-academia-gif-16443741

[abstract sorrel]

You aren’t bad at all so you’ve literally got this

[amber gazelle]

@carmine badger

finally found a rapid allmight to use this combo with

saw it on reddit

[carmine badger]

You pinged me to see someone soul get ripped out of their body…

I am so sorry for that endeavor…

[amber gazelle]

he tried to roll too

😭

poor lil guy look at him go

in fairness it's his beta im using so can't feel that bad but ya

I started feeling bad before this though when I chased a tamaki using like 20 charged mirio alphas

[tough lotus]

Oh thats cool. You can definitely get to ace with ibara solo que on any console so i believe in you

Definitely rough though lol

[bold silo]

Yeah but it happened so fast for me

Tbh i didnt care about my RP so much

So i guess thats why

The less u care about rp the more u win and rank up

Besides most of my matches consists of my teammates leaving me before the game starts 🥲

But i play it out

[tough lotus]

Not actually true but you'd have to be soooo ready to do the exact counterplay that it will work 99% of the time. When the beta is cast, most people tend to roll immediately because that's what you do for the red ring of ochako gamma. But for yellow endeavor beta, you want to run to the edge first and then roll. There may be situations where this combo is inescapable but here they had enough time to get far enough to avoid the gamma. Most people rn dont know how to instantly escape the beta and its very abusable

Tldr: That's disgusting

[amber gazelle]

hm good to know

they should really put that in the game tho cause thats not clear

since even if you're at the edge of the thing you can get dmged and sucked into the middle

[tough lotus]

Yes its when you touch the edge. You have to run to the edge and then roll through

I taught a couple friends and we all did it over and over in training mode on lvl 9 beta

[amber gazelle]

anyway heres something that is true

the demon lord and his son

[tough lotus]

You can practice by setting up a bot to do it over and over

[amber gazelle]

ill try that out

[tough lotus]

That literally isnt true Loll. You can just avoid every gamma by rolling. I thought you were gonna show a combo like afo gamma > kuro beta > kiri alpha

[amber gazelle]

It's a bit of fun but if you were to time it you could make it inescapable.

Say if I did it frame perfect after the afo's gamma

[tough lotus]

Okay yes there are inescapable team combos

Thats not what the clip showed lol 💀

[amber gazelle]

But I'm not that sweaty and for the most part people are going to be having a bit of trouble dodging two afo gammas in succession

[amber gazelle]

It ain't that deep dude

I'm not showing some true master combo 😭

like yeah no duh afo gamma is not true

two of them become true but I'm not showing that off here because that's kind of obvious.

[carmine badger]

“Just roll it” bros are in shambles

[tough lotus]

You literally said here is something that is true though....

[carmine badger]

Don’t even try that

[tough lotus]

Thats all I'm saying is i expected some cool true combo

[carmine badger]

He can’t rip out someone’s soul like that

You sent him straight to heaven

[amber gazelle]

if you want a true combo then do a rapid allmight beta into yellow deku gamma into alpha into allmight beta into yellow deku gamma into alpha

thats a straight tod

[tough lotus]

There was literally a ps4 player in here earlier showing like a minute straight of monoma combos

[amber gazelle]

but I'm not sweaty enough to do that and assault allmights don't exist anymore

[carmine badger]

This is what it feels like playing on switch

[amber gazelle]

beta into gamma with him gets pretty close

does not feel great getting hit with that ill tell you that much

just dodge bro

😭

[carmine badger]

I hate his beta

The ring is MUCH larger than the initial hit box on start up so I think I’m fine but then I get pulled in

[carmine badger]

THAT!!!

THAT EXACTLY

[tough lotus]

I'm gonna lab this but I'm pretty sure this isnt a tod cause it gives them i frames after beta

[amber gazelle]

nah bro if you're in the middle of an endeavour beta you're cooked

[amber gazelle]

nope

just before you get iframes you can gamma them

just like you can shoot them with an alpha instead too

works on shield

[tough lotus]

But if it doesnt work on health then its not a tod. A tod kills them in one hit without i frames or any time to escape

Like yellow ochaco has a tod combo

[amber gazelle]

it would naturally work better on hp

because of how iframes work

and yes they can recover

but not in that short a time period

[tough lotus]

Im just saying if they have a chance to recover or they get knocked down, its not a tod

[amber gazelle]

I know how combos work man

I've mained aizawa for 5 seasons now

[tough lotus]

So you can loop rapid all might beta into yellow deku gamma into alpha and its a touch of death combo they cant escape?

[amber gazelle]

heres a video of it

the gamma timing and aim is super strict but it's possible

also you could probably do a crouch shot at the end there too so yeah

[carmine badger]

It’s never too late to delete something by the way…

no one needs to know about this…

[amber gazelle]

dw like I said no one playing assault allmight these days

not ever since they nerfed his splash damage

[carmine badger]

All you have to do is get a teammate to do it

[amber gazelle]

all his mains suddenly dropped off the face of the earth when that happened

[carmine badger]

No aim no brain

[amber gazelle]

also bonus aizawa tod https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291777033273217025/1362151104468615278/5DD7571.MP4?ex=68a0df12&is=689f8d92&hm=0d56f1c97d6e6f8198f62c72b6ae7561c1af26586be92530a2b16c8e53960ff2&

that one only works against real people tho cause of how bots ragdolls fall really quickly compared to players

[tough lotus]

You said rapid all might beta

Thats assault all might....

🤦🏽‍♀️

No wonder lol

[amber gazelle]

My bad but I also said this

So probably should’ve clued on

[tough lotus]

U said beta multiple times over and over so i assumed "assault" was the mistake and i didnt wanna call you out 🤭

I used to be really rude over grammar but i reformedd

[amber gazelle]

I see

Well anyway there’s a true Tod combo

[amber gazelle]

Also where cause I don’t see it

[tough lotus]

.

[tough lotus]

Just looked up media in this chat

Btw not all the combos in there are true but i wanted to show you what kinda stuff i was expecting to see earlier. I just think some of those are really cool

And your combo reminded me of one of the ones he posted

[amber gazelle]

Alright ty and can you post a clip of you rolling that endeavour beta

cause I genuinely didn’t get it when I tried

From the second it appears it starts staggering you and dragging you in

if you’re more to the side of it it’s kinda avoidable maybe but otherwise nah

[halcyon gyro]

Neito Monoma [Technical]

HP Value changed to:
250 -> 275

Quirk Skill A: Big Fist (Copy)

• Move now requires at least 3 points of contact to the chosen opponent in order to copy their Quirk Skill A

Quirk Skill B: Gyrate (Copy)

• Decreased lunge distance at Lvls 4-9

Quirk Skill Y: Steal (Copy)

• Adjusted so entire gage bar is depleted if hit while in the steel state
• Increased penalty reload time

Special Action: Skill Switch/Scanners

• Increased gage consumption when copying a teammates Quirk Skills
• Increased gage depletion while using copied abilities
• Gage immediately switches to 0% when switching to base moveset
• Increased penalty reload time

How does this sound? Do these changes make Monoma more bearable in the meta or did I just kill the character?

[sharp ledge]

75% of monoma players don’t even like him in the show they just use him cause he’s busted

monomas my favourite character but on his release i rarely got to use him cause of the meta slaves always taking him i hope they balance monoma soon

[sharp ledge]

revert his beta nerf and his hp should be 300

[marble herald]

Monoma is the most annoying character in this game

Literally sat at the top of the map SA reload abuse the entire last 2 circles and won the game because there was genuinely nothing we could do about him going to the top of the map and spamming Shinso beta and he literally didn’t stay on the ground for longer than 10 seconds please kill this character

[sharp ledge]

me personally it’s between present mic/red kiri rapid ochako and monoma

[amber gazelle]

tbf I think liking people for their gameplay is fair

mixing quirks is very fun

meta slaves tho ye annoying

[amber gazelle]

Alpha doesn’t need a nerf and SA doesn’t need even more consumption when using abilities

you make stuff too difficult to acquire for him you just make it annoying

an alpha shouldn’t be difficult to acquire

otherwise it’s fine

[dry aurora]

Better then the plain ignorance happening now oml

[carmine badger]

I hate you guys again

I just went up against a cannon spam monoma

You all are dead to me

[mystic nimbus]

You Monoma's have it so difficult dude

I just played with Monoma

Spamming those Assault Endeavor gammas down in the last circle really got me sweating

[carmine badger]

/s or /srs

[mystic nimbus]

What?

[carmine badger]

Are you joking? Or are you genuinely serious?

[mystic nimbus]

I mean... I did do it

But I didn't actually sweat lol

[carmine badger]

Thank god…

[mystic nimbus]

Might be the easiest win I've had so far ngl

I feel bad for my victims

May I get killed by a spamming Monoma next game

[carmine badger]

I’ve been suffering while I see these monoma players doing whatever they want

[surreal dock]

I was there, the lag was insane

[carmine badger]

Let me guess you were playing on Chaos city

[mystic nimbus]

[strong ore]

I swear, those explosions are so bsd

Bad

I'm glad I wasn't in Chaos City

But it crashed the game after I won 💀

[marble herald]

All of them are annoying except ochaco has a skill ceiling but is still very annoying. Red kiri can definitely be annoying but Momoma SA abusers are beyond annoying

I don’t even want to play Monoma because I just don’t even wanna be associated with it and he’s genuinely one of my fav chars

Though when I play him I always do good just don’t want to annoy ppl

[sharp ledge]

yea I never encounter skilled monomas

[restive crane]

Shouldn’t it be “Steel”

If it’s supposed to be a Pun then whatever

[halcyon gyro]

When looking at the database for the move's name, it was titled "Steal"

I get the pun, though. I didn't miss it.

[mystic nimbus]

I love Monoma's who make their teammates play a character like assault endeavor just to copy their quirk and spam everything

[amber gazelle]

“Make them”

oh no those poor people

playing a top 6 character in the game

I guess if they don’t like him idk but usually it’s fun to see the numbers at least

[restive crane]

Tbh I only play Monoma whenever my teammate is a character I don’t have or is playing a character I usually play as

[mystic nimbus]

English ain't my first language, I don't bother perfecting my sentences

I hope you know what I meant

[amber gazelle]

I mean you’re not wrong to say make I guess since some probably do but maybe I was just assuming stuff based on how you phrased it

[upper glacier]

I despise you all/ly

[proper halo]

he would be bottom tier if that does happen

unless there's no time limit for his copy quirk set

if you're wondering why, try fighting people with your base kit alone and see how hard it is to kill someone.

The sole current problem I would say for Monoma, is just cooldown spam. Outside of that, he is fine (maybe the gamma needs a nerf or tweak)

[upper glacier]

Shouldn't get i frames after his gamma is hit

[sharp ledge]

what else should he get instead then ?

[upper glacier]

It blocks one hit like it's meant to

Not giving you i frames after it

[spring nimbus]

I think a hefty cooldown on his gamma would be fine. They also need to do something about the monoma mirror match since gamma doesn’t reset so you can unironically just gamma forever😂

[proper halo]

He kinda should

Or else people would just do a melee onto a combo

Which could guarantee a high damage punish when Monoma try to get their gamma

Like for example, Tamaki's gamma

He'd eat the full force of it

Or All For One pull

[sharp ledge]

I think they should make his gamma a 80% damage reduction instead and make it actually have a cd

[tidal radish]

Idk I see Monoma players make nice plays with the gamma cause of it not having a cd

[carmine badger]

I just saw some cool all might beta combos

I change my mind again

You guys are cool

[upper glacier]

Some*

[carmine badger]

?

I spelled some right?

If you wanna see him here

[upper glacier]

No just saying only some are cool

Because most if we are being real is just endy spammers

[carmine badger]

I have yet to see an uncool all might beta combo

[carmine badger]

True but that’s not a combo that’s spam

[upper glacier]

I’m talking about monomas in general silly

[carmine badger]

Ohhhhh…

Yep…

[upper glacier]

Yeeee

[carmine badger]

Nature of the beast, I guess…

[upper glacier]

We suffer

[carmine badger]

It’s not going anywhere anytime soon

[upper glacier]

Can I just have Jiro already she’s my fav in the anime😭

[carmine badger]

But let’s nerf mt lady because why not?

I wonder what mid tier is going to be Nerfed next

[upper glacier]

B-but you can use special action off spawn!

[upper glacier]

Let’s nerf bottom tiers next

[carmine badger]

Why would I want to get targeted as soon as the game starts?

[upper glacier]

Hawks and twice round two

[carmine badger]

My bet is on froppy

She’s gonna be next on the chopping block

[upper glacier]

Just please byking make hawks useable

[carmine badger]

Nah

They’re gonna Nerf his gamma ammo count

Because why not

[upper glacier]

0.5 gammas at lv9

[carmine badger]

From the people who brought you Nerf genji and nerf pig

We now bring you Nerf hawks

[upper glacier]

It’s funny because I main genji and ram in ow😭

[carmine badger]

Goes in

Dry blades

Dies

Blames supports

[upper glacier]

I NEED HEALING

Or when i play ram me and the other tank gets lost in a 1v1

Aura farming fr

[carmine badger]

I’m sorry for y’all atm

The armor bug is getting yall flamed

Anyways monoma is cool under certain circumstances

[upper glacier]

I’m just Tryna enjoy a character I’m sorry he’s bugged yk?

I only play ow because ram is just such a cool character

[carmine badger]

But if I say that as a sombra main everyone wants my head on a spike

I can’t even play ranked

[rigid oyster]

HES MORE THAN YELLOW ENDEAVOR LOL

[carmine badger]

Obviously, it’s just yellow endeavor spam is just the easier option.

[halcyon gyro]

And you Monoma mains.....

You guys completely lost the point of the character

He was able to have multiple quirks so you all can get creative with him, mix and match.

And, albeit, some of you do so, which I respect. I do like to see some Aizawa A into Ibara Y every once in a while.

But MOST of you just love taking the easy way and spam whatever busted move there is.

You all just blatantly ruin every new character and QSS release with your braindead exploitation.

Jiro is looking pretty solid, balanced, if anything, but MOST of you braindead Monoma's will make her insufferable.

[rigid oyster]

monona can abuse tamaki’s gamma out of his kit but you right 100%

monona might as well be endeavor’s 4th son

[sharp ledge]

why are you saying you monoma mains it’s not like every monoma player does that

atp your just complaining for no reason

because it isn’t every monoma player just the meta slaves

[halcyon gyro]

Did I really say it was every Monoma player?

[rigid oyster]

thank god I’m not the only one who uses that word

it’s appropriate to how it really is imo

[sharp ledge]

yea mb but i feel like hating a character because of the majority is kinda stupid just because of the brain dead monoma players who spam endy beta and gamma

[sharp ledge]

yea the meta slaves are bad

look at rapid toga and red deku they were played so much now everyone just dropped them

[tidal radish]

Well most of the player base is bad so that's expected

[sharp ledge]

i really wished everyone who played monoma wouldn’t just abuse high damage moves

like i have no issue with assault endy beta and gamma spam besides the lagg

[mystic nimbus]

😔

I still play Rapid Toga

[sharp ledge]

im praying next patch monoma gets an actual nerf

and revert his hp nerf

[rigid oyster]

you cook so hard with him you want him to get a actual nerf?

[upper glacier]

Yes

I want him butchered

[strong ore]

I think I'm fine with the HP Nerf staying

Idrc what they do to Monoma cause it's their choice, but as of right now, he's pretty squishy for a guy who runs across the map

[sharp ledge]

yea it’s not fun when everyone complains about your fav character

[sharp ledge]

not sure if 250 hp tech is fair

[rigid oyster]

I wouldn’t mind if mfs complained about tech dabi more if he gets a actual significant buff. would just say “skill a shoe” and rub it in their faces

[amber gazelle]

thats not that creative

still funny tho

[upper glacier]

More movement than a rapid btw

[amber gazelle]

He's the fastest but you can apply your message to like 5 other characters
Strike Kendo, Strike Kiri, Aizawa, Kurogiri (if you're counting distance travelled) and lvl 9 gamma compress

[upper glacier]

He still has more survivability than them all with i frames on demand

[amber gazelle]

only a problem due to his cooldown refresh

[upper glacier]

So fix that then ggs

Although the fact he can keep healing during the I frames is kinda stupid it should atleast interrupt it

[amber gazelle]

i also agree there

[sharp ledge]

but completely gutting his special is dumb

let him cd reset 2-3 times

[halcyon gyro]

My point still stands

MOST people who play meta characters refuse to admit that their character needs nerfs.

AFO got his special gutted, but he's living very well.

Monoma will live with a nerf like that, too.

If you're arguing against it, then you're projecting that you just don't want to go through the effort of actually learning him if the nerf was applied.

[amber gazelle]

No

His CD should only reset for a specific ability if he takes that one again/gets a new one

[sharp ledge]

ye that makes more sense

[sharp ledge]

but something I don’t agree with is making his copied abilities not his levels

[proven token]

Buff Monoma?

He doesn’t do enough fr buff him

[sharp ledge]

Even as a monoma glazer I gotta admit he’s unbalanced idk how he got past the balancing phase

[halcyon gyro]

Again, people who play meta characters will NEVER admit that the character needs nerfs.

Neito Monoma [Technical]

HP Value changed to:
250 -> 275

Quirk Skill A: Big Fist (Copy)

• Move now requires at least 3 points of contact to the chosen opponent in order to copy their Quirk Skill A

Quirk Skill B: Gyrate (Copy)

• Decreased lunge distance at Lvls 4-9

Quirk Skill Y: Steal (Copy)

• Adjusted so entire gage bar is depleted if hit while in the steel state
• Increased penalty reload time

Special Action: Skill Switch/Scanners

• Increased gage consumption when copying a teammates Quirk Skills
• Increased gage depletion while using copied abilities
• Gage immediately switches to 0% when switching to base moveset
• Increased penalty reload time

PSA: I do not care if this "kills the character. If you HARD disagree with all of this, then you are just saying that you just can't play the game with out your broken cool downs and bs mobility.

I kid you not, none of you guess see my vision. If someone could somehow make a mod, giving Monoma all these listed changes, you will SEE how much more balanced Monoma will feel.

And, I don't know, actually take SKILL 🤯🤯

[sharp ledge]

why are we nerfing monomas base kit

it’s the worse base kit in the entire game

if you struggle against monomas base kit that’s a skill issue on your end

the only thing people complain about is his cooldown refreshing thats it and his gamma

[amber gazelle]

“If you disagree with me you’re bad at the game” amazing way to say you don’t care about criticism

You’ve posted this twice now

We do not care

You cannot balance and Byking can’t either but that doesn’t mean you should take their place

[halcyon gyro]

OH MY GOD YOU ALL HAVE THE PROCESSING SPEED OF LITERAL SNAILS

I don't nerf the base set because I struggle against it, but because in terms of copying quirks, it's WAYYYYY too easy.

Let me explain my A nerf.

One hit

It only take one hit to copy someone's A

One alpha is all it takes, and Monoma can abuse his reload cooldowns all he wants.

He doesn't need a copied B or Y.

Just one A hit is all it takes.

[halcyon gyro]

And I don't care about criticism here. I'm standing my ground and saying that Monoma can live if his set was adjusted like this.

I will stand on business with these changes. And I can explain all these if I need to. Surely hope I don't need to explain the Y nerfs.

You Monoma will always say that any possible nerf is "too harsh" on him. Just say you like playing broken characters because anything that takes more than 1 hour to learn is to brutal for you Patrick Star minds.

If you only like playing braindead broken a-holes, go to Overwatch and stop ruining this game with your stupid reload abuse.

"Holy yap" 🤓
Say that one time, and you'll basically prove my point.

[amber gazelle]

You don't care about my criticism so why would I give a detailed response to yours?

Your high ground is at bedrock

You didn't even read mine, you just made up strawmans to try make yourself look like a victim lmao

[halcyon gyro]

Then maybe stop defending this broken character.

You know he needs to be nerfed.

[halcyon gyro]

Is this insinuating that I'm the bad guy because I simple threw some ideas on how to nerf Monoma? 😂

[amber gazelle]

Again with the strawmans, I literally didn't.

[amber gazelle]

I don't care what kind of guy you are I'm just saying you made strawmans and tried to make yourself look like the victim, which is true.

[halcyon gyro]

You disagreed with my nerfs. I would assume you're defending him

But I never heard what you had in mind. Instead, I'm getting dogged on.

[amber gazelle]

I think he needs nerfs but not to the extent of what you're suggesting, his alpha isn't a problem and there's no reason to make it harder to obtain.
His beta can get a movement distance nerf I guess.
His gamma is only a problem because of the effects of cooldown refresh and that you can heal while having it up.

He doesn't need increased consumption from SA either, like yeah you could do that at first, but you don't slap on a bunch of nerfs on a character all at once, that's now how you balance, you test changes and see how they play out, not cripple him immediately and then rebuff like 3 seasons later.
For his SA he just needs the cooldown refresh gone.

[sharp ledge]

doesn’t he just copy by touching someone in the anime?

your arguments don’t make sense cause in the anime he just needs to touch someone ONCE to copy them

why should you make it hard for him to copy when that’s his only tool to deal good damage

I’ll agree that some team ups make him stupidly busted along with his cooldown resets but that’s the nature of his character he turns the tide of battle with peoples quirks

[upper glacier]

He should have a time limit on the quirk ggs ez

Yeah she should be able to turn the tides IF he gets it not turn the tides and immediately win the game by having an endeavour as his teammate

[amber gazelle]

no

The problem with endeavour would be solved by not having cooldown refresh

[upper glacier]

So what do you purpose

[amber gazelle]

“would be solved by not having cooldown refresh”

[upper glacier]

I’m slow okay😭

[sharp ledge]

honestly I hate skill-less monomas who spam assault endy i see where the hate is coming from but hating on the entire character cause of a bunch of unskilled ppl isn’t fair

[hushed phoenix]

This is so beautiful

[mystic nimbus]

Im gonna be honest

I've never seen a Monoma that actually made me think "This person is good"

Monoma is just an overpowered character in general

[rigid oyster]

that sucks

[dim wraith]

Why is monoma’s chat so much different from the other character chats 😭 it’s never any tips, in game clips (not spamming clips, or practice clips🙄) just complaints about the character & suggested nerfs😭

[upper glacier]

I knew you'd post this peak here

[hushed phoenix]

Why do you think

[upper glacier]

Maybe because he's the most overpowered and ridiculous thing to ever touch the game

[dim wraith]

As overpowered as he is I still think s7 hawks is the most ridiculous character to touch this game. In my opinion before endeavor released monoma wasn’t that crazy even with the cd reset he just ran away alot. Now with endeavor he’s ridiculous with the spamming

[upper glacier]

No hawks had more burst dmg but monoma has constant ridiculous dmg and the most survivability in the game

[dim wraith]

I feel like burst dmg is worst. Hawks it you with one beta it was game over

[upper glacier]

I just said that

[spring nimbus]

Just need him nerfed so the complaining can get toned down. Any advice or tips gets drowned out by it anyway😂

[spring nimbus]

And true, people don’t really send clips here. Wonder why that is when this is the highest skill ceiling character in the game😂

Here’s a recent one of mine. Tech denki beta is so strong

[sharp ledge]

FOR REAL BRO ITS SO ANNOYING

like I get monomas busted but this isn’t a complaining channel it’s for tips and tricks and clips

[sharp ledge]

compress alpha and technki beta with recipro hits hella hard

[spring nimbus]

Nah fr, I think I dropped my highest KO game ever with this set up. 17😂

Might’ve been a Shinso beta now that I think about it actually

[sharp ledge]

It’s so sad when you lose a crazy set of quirks then you gotta look all over again

[spring nimbus]

Yeah, I hate when I’m tryna to run away with my beta and it just randomly tracks to someone next to me and cooks my beta.

This happens so much with froppy I notice, her jump height just puts her in the perfect position to get beta’d, whether intentional or not😂

[sharp ledge]

yea but sometimes it’s good for catching wake ups it goes in their direction to

[spring nimbus]

Banger solo q game with a 1v3 clutch for the win. Might have to do post commentary for this one.

[magic dew]

I jst finished reading all thus and in my opinion I have one question as of recent how many monomas do u see in one match not many right means people are forgetting bout him and maybe once or twice a match u might see him but rarely do they ever make it to endgame

[sharp ledge]

honestly even though people complain about him a lot the max me personally ive had in my games was 1-3

[spring nimbus]

Yeah, 2-3 a game at most, which tbf a decent amount. But I still see more rapid ochas every game then monoma😂

But Monoma’s pick rate is going to spike anytime a new character/quirkset drops just so ppl can play the new stuff and spam it, which only prolongs the frustration.

[round sinew]

They need to make it so his special action doesn’t fully reset his abilities. If he swaps sets, his reloads should pause and then continue reloading where they left off when he swaps back instead of magically being at full ammo again

[halcyon gyro]

Lowkey, don't try here.

I did and got dogged on.

[round sinew]

Monoma defenders are brain dead so wouldn’t expect much lmao

[warm moat]

monoma is broken but so many of you clowns have terrible ideas of how to nerf him

good christ

[amber gazelle]

You didn’t get dogged on, you got criticism then didn’t even reply to it

You’re so desperate to be the victim

[amber gazelle]

“anyone who doesn’t agree with my changes for this character is brain dead”

[amber gazelle]

basically lol

Crippling a character is not how you nerf them

May be consistent with Byking’s current approach if you look at Mt Lady and Hawks but that doesn’t mean it’s a good one

[upper glacier]

cries in hawks main

[mystic nimbus]

Cries in twice main

[amber gazelle]

yeah twice was super annoying but what they did with him

horrible

removed his combos basically

they did the same to mirio a long while back

upped the down power on his uncharged alpha

[spice geyser]

@glacial lynx

[glacial lynx]

😔💔🥀

[spice geyser]

😌 ❤️ 🌹

[sharp ledge]

heavy agree

[sharp ledge]

Respectfully it was deserved

[halcyon gyro]

I never said that I was the victim

I said I got dogged on. Yes, I deserved it.

[queen reef]

[halcyon gyro]

How I respectfully rant about Monoma knowing heck well he is the most braindead character in this game? And to say, "At least he's worse than prime Hawks," is just excuse for you meta slaves and Monoma players to justify his unfair gameplay.

Yes, he needs nerfs, if anything, gutting him like they did Hawks is the only, most effective, way to make him tolerable. Yes, with his nerfs, give him back his 300HP since most likely his nerfs are going to he towards the reload abuse.

Hawks is still good. You (and I mean everyone, not just you Monoma mains) just hate HATE how he takes more skill now and no longer the one button character sped kid that he once was.

But there, I spoke a whole lot of nothing, did I? Now time for me to get hate and everyone saying how literally ANY nerf to Monoma is "too much" for him.

You all, YOU ALL, are meta slaves. And I SURE AS HECK KNOW that you will drop this a**head as soon as he gets nerfed. How do I know? Because it happened with Tech Toga, Twice, Hawks, Assault All Might, Strike Shoto (in season 1-3), Rapid Mirio, Nejire, Overhaul's bug fix. You play a character that makes everyone quit the game, but then you're the victim when people complain.

You are all meta slaves.

AND PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, LEARN SOMEONE ELSE

[warm moat]

holy whiner baby get good lil bro 👍

[halcyon gyro]

I don't care what you guys say anymore

[warm moat]

you're fighting demons bro 😭

[halcyon gyro]

Say all you want. I won't change the fact that I hate this character with a passion.

[warm moat]

as you should he's broken ash

[halcyon gyro]

And you're a meta slave

Keep swallowing ByKing's nut like a good boy

[warm moat]

bro thought he did something

[sharp ledge]

dawg idk what your on but he has the highest skill ceiling in the game and probably will forever

im not saying he’s balanced cause he isn’t for sure

[sharp ledge]

what are the parts of his kit you want nerfed ?

[halcyon gyro]

Simply that Special Action. Either work it like AFO's or like Toga's. Either way, just so he can't just reset everything.

And if you want me to be specific, then I say rework the dude.

His skill set makes no sense, mainly his A. From a person thst requires PHYSICAL contact to copy an opponent's quirk, then what the heck is that A?

It's not even him touching you. It's the dang projectile, that ISN'T EVEN A PART OF HIM. 🫩

[sharp ledge]

this game isn’t lore accurate tho ?

toga can transform into anyone even though she needs to love them

deku should break his bones

[rigid oyster]

shigaraki & overhaul should one-shot everyone

[sharp ledge]

yea if we’re going down that route deku should break his bones every time shiggy and overhaul can one tap afo can steal more than 1 quirk

[sharp ledge]

it’s also crazy how monomas channel is the only toxic one if you wanna complain do it someplace else please

[rigid oyster]

dabi should have infinite ammo in all of his skills in exchange for 20-50 HP

give strike dabi a bigger lore accurate alpha like HeII Flash from Android 16 in DBZ but instead of it being fiery orange, it's fiery blue, a different beta & make it lose HP in exchange for more damage output

[sharp ledge]

yea

both dabis deserve a rework they’re so badly designed

[sharp ledge]

how is someone a meta slave for using their favourite character just curious

[rigid oyster]

if I didn't go through these matches I did today, I would've begged to differ.

tried to run tech dabi with two of the worst tunings in the game to prove a point but that time sucked

atp y'all should VC about it

goddamnn

[halcyon gyro]

Character being your favorite is different from who you play. I like Ochaco as a character, but I don't play her because her playstyle is just not for me.
In this case, who says that Monoma is their genuine #1? Most of the time, they don't even like Monama. They only play him for how little effort it takes to play him.

[rigid oyster]

I like monoma in the show and I got him in rolls but I barely use him 😂

if I actually grinded the battle pass for that PUR, I probably would've played him more but still probably not as much

[sharp ledge]

he takes the most skill in the entire game

it’s just people don’t use him as intended

and even though he’s busted your the only person ive seen who complains about a character this much

[spring nimbus]

What is wrong with that guy lmao

[sharp ledge]

idk he probably hates monoma a lot

[amber gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/lex-luthor-rage-bait-superman-drinking-cup-gif-14094169730789965419

As someone who mains Monoma, kurogiri and Aizawa

no

Extremely low skill floor high skill ceiling

Even when they take away his cooldown refresh though, easy obvious combos like kurogiri beta or Tamaki alpha grab into strike shoto beta will always exist

[amber gazelle]

pack it up dude

[warm moat]

looking at bros profile explains it all 😭

[cloud river]

Is there a glitch I don’t know about? I just faced a monoma that had infinite permiation state like he was using Mirios tuning however he could attack and do everything while being invincible

Was he cheating or is there a glitch with that tuning?

[mystic nimbus]

He probably had a good gaming chair

[sharp ledge]

yea im just tryna ragebait this dude cause he keeps coming into the channel at starting beef for no reason

like dawg we get monomas op what do you want us to do about it

[amber gazelle]

yup

toga infinite permeation glitch is back too

lot of invinc glitches rn

[amber gazelle]

just wants attention I think

[sharp ledge]

yea probably

monomas channel is so toxic stg 💔

[amber gazelle]

monoma players aint doing this channel any favours

spamming spirit bombs

[sharp ledge]

spirit bombs and kamehamas

I rarely see any monomas who mash combos together

[amber gazelle]

so easy too

like the tamaki alpha grab into shoto beta i mentioned

which you can also hit a normal tamaki alpha after you beta them too

thats like 300+ damage from 1 tamaki grab

maybe 400?

[sharp ledge]

nah stupid monoma players would rather just copy assault endeavor and spam to their hearts content they be ruining the whole point of the character

[rigid oyster]

yeah he's loud and vulgar 100%

[rigid oyster]

toga also has 60% damage reduction from strike kendo herself. and inf recipro is back with inf card glitch & inf hardening

[amber gazelle]

the toga 60% damage reduction one isnt that bad cause like

some funny stuff can be done to her like tamaki gamma deletes her cause no knockdown

but ye the rest pretty bad

[rigid oyster]

it's bad if it's rapid toga.

[amber gazelle]

also that's been a thing since strike kendo released 😭

[rigid oyster]

tech toga can have it though because that's all she can get

[amber gazelle]

250hp

[rigid oyster]

but rapid

[amber gazelle]

she has mobility sure

[rigid oyster]

heII no

[amber gazelle]

but the important part is she can still be killed

it's not that bad

now invincibility is bad

[rigid oyster]

wasn't sisterly 50% for a time

[amber gazelle]

ya

[mystic nimbus]

They should really fix these glitches

[sharp ledge]

is the monoma gamma glitch still not fixed ?

[amber gazelle]

havent heard of it

monoma iida gamma + rapid allmight alpha + PU = 💀

[tepid cedar]

its not starting beef hes just making his point to a character whos braindead

[sharp ledge]

then how come he’s the only person ive seen come here daily sending a whole essay on what part of his kit needs nerfs

hes saying monomas alpha needs a nerf sounds like a skill issue to me

[tepid cedar]

he just came back and hes probably talking to the ppl who abuse him and he does not do it daily

[sharp ledge]

just curious do you know the different between skill floor and skill ceiling ?

[mystic nimbus]

It's not really about the skill ceilling, Monoma is just overpowered and you rarely see anyone actually do something that takes skill with him because of it

[sharp ledge]

if you’ve seen the clips in this channel then your wrong

[mystic nimbus]

I just think that he is an overpowered character

I don't care much about the skill floor or ceiling of a character anymore

[sharp ledge]

that’s true with most of the cast tho

[mystic nimbus]

I wouldn't say most

[sharp ledge]

like who besides tech dabi mount lady twice and tech toga

[mystic nimbus]

Froppy

Strike Dabi

Both All mights

Strike Bakugo

Assault Shigaraki

Assault Kirishima

Strike endeavor

A lot of characters

[sharp ledge]

your confusing balanced and bad

all the characters you named are balanced

[mystic nimbus]

But you asked me to name characters that aren't overpowered?

[sharp ledge]

I meant bad characters

mb

[mystic nimbus]

Well that wasn't the point

[sharp ledge]

ngl the entire games roster deal to much damage they either need to up the hp of every character or nerf every character

[mystic nimbus]

You can definetely get melted easily in this game but if they did that I feel like fighting a character with good movement would be so much more annoying

[sharp ledge]

yea especially as 250 hp characters

[upper glacier]

Hawks is not good

[upper glacier]

Highest potential skill ceiling but it will never be used to its fullest with his current state due to spam outperforming it unfortunately

Holy itbsent me so far back in the channel

[amber gazelle]

Strike Bakugo needs some tuning down

His grenades are easy to hit and do big damage

Otherwise the rest of the list is fine

[mystic nimbus]

Yeah that was the one I was the most skeptical about aswell but I wouldn't say he is overpowered despite needing a little nerf

He's not Monoma, Strike Kirishima, Present Mic level

[sharp ledge]

there’s like a good 25% of monomas who don’t cd abuse high dmg moves like assault endeavor

but yea I agree

tbh none of the people who just cd actually like monoma as a character they just see him as a cheat code for ranked

[upper glacier]

Like all the respect to you good monomas

But in reality it is throwing if your not cd abusing which is sad that a good character is being wasted

[sharp ledge]

yea it’s sad I hope they actually balance his special it’s way to broken

[upper glacier]

#buffhawksaswellplease

[sharp ledge]

he will next season trust

he’s getting something

[upper glacier]

Totally not something we both know what it is wink wink nudge nudge

[sharp ledge]

it better be peak

[upper glacier]

I will however say monoma is more annoying than prime hawks due to him having a 2 season unconstested reign on meta compared to hawks having 1

Most likely 3 for monoma

[amber gazelle]

Hawks had 2

he got no nerfs for 2 seasons straight

[upper glacier]

Double beta was removed season 8

Well triple

Technically

Yra

[sharp ledge]

I would say monoma is more annoying but hawks is just pure terror he can one shot anyone so easily

[amber gazelle]

Was that in a later patch in season 8?

I only see damage and sa nerfs

[upper glacier]

I know it was removed really close to his release

And he wasn't #1 in the game anymore after season 7

He was still top 5

[amber gazelle]

I distinctly remember them not doing anything to him for season 7

[upper glacier]

They didn't

Id consider one season after close

Remember they did the survey that season

[amber gazelle]

Must’ve been during mid season 8 because I don’t see it on s9 or s10 patch notes

[sharp ledge]

ngl prime hawks and monoma are equally broken but I feel like hawks is just easier cause you don’t need to look for good combos

[rigid oyster]

momo, assualt kendo, hawks, rapid all might, potentially nejire cuz I keep hearing a lot of ppl keep saying she's low tier now but not too surprised

[amber gazelle]

rapid allmight is not on the same tier as them imo

he's pretty decent

[spring nimbus]

Assault kendo is also fine

[sharp ledge]

you cooked in the tourney like crazy W

[spring nimbus]

Appreciate it man, sadly I couldn't do as much as I wanted to with monoma, but I think I was the only one not just coping teammates quirks and running double the whole game 😂

[opal flax]

Psst… you guys can use kurogiri’s entire kid if you steal his gamma…

You didn’t hear this from me…

[amber gazelle]

I mean kinda?

your alpha isnt as powerful

do people just not know how kurogiri works

[opal flax]

I thought it was, but it didn’t get the alpha buff that regular giri got

Like it does more residual damage, but not as much contact

[opal flax]

It works well enough to consider getting

It’s a lot more interesting than just tagging on iida gamma or afo gamma

[amber gazelle]

is it

its a glorified sniper basically

since solo queue teammates are the dumbest people known to man

and wouldnt go through your portal anyway even if their families were about to be turned into nomus

[opal flax]

Kidnapping tool

[amber gazelle]

kidnapping tool with a 40% chance of working

[opal flax]

Oh yeah, I forgot this character feels as good to play as sandpaper

[opal flax]

But think of it this way 60% of the time it works 100% of the time

Hear that! 100% of the time!

[sharp ledge]

You cooked crazy hard with afo you ready for his new character

[spring nimbus]

Yes, but I have no tickets. I had to pity tech mirio 😭

Will have to get lucky when he does drop since I’ll only have the tickets from the license

And the measly 100 we get from the tourney ig 😒

[sharp ledge]

fr same here afo and deku were so unexpected im broke 💔

[sharp ledge]

Give us 500 tickets since this game survived the first anni but knowing byking take this 50 and that’s it

[spring nimbus]

They feeding us scraps bro

[sharp ledge]

Fr bro 100 tickets for a tourney is insane

and that’s for winning

[spring nimbus]

Fr

[proper halo]

Anyone got that Monoma plushie image

Asking to explain what is right and wrong to him?

[sharp ledge]

do you think monomas gonna be able to utilize zeta dekus gamma ?

[strong belfry]

Of course

Tho if melee is the only way to go overdrive then he won’t be able to use quintuple smash or other overdrive tied moves

[sharp ledge]

hopefully he can im tryna use overdrive with monoma

[strong belfry]

Tbf
Hopefully not

I like it when the characters have advantages that monoma or AFO can’t copy

[sharp ledge]

i can’t wait for zeta deku to come out he looks so peak

[spring nimbus]

Yeah, he probably won’t be able to go into overdrive though.

[runic pond]

Yall ready for 13

[sharp ledge]

im expecting monoma nerfs hopefully

[runic pond]

Hmmmm nah… more buffs for

[halcyon gyro]

You deserve whatever you guys have coming to you. 🙏🙏

I hope for the worse nerfs ByKing can do. ❤️❤️❤️

[sharp ledge]

respectfully why do you always come in this channel and just spread negativity and complain just do something else with your time

let people main the characters they like

[rigid oyster]

he hates to see another monoma buff fr

[sharp ledge]

fr he rlly needs some buffs(im jk nerf him hard)

[sharp ledge]

yea uh what happened to the nerfs 😭

[pseudo mortar]

Bro

How does he keep escaping nerfs

[sharp ledge]

idk

MONOMA CAN USE OVERDRIVE 5TH GEAR

[pseudo mortar]

HE GOT NERFED

THEY SHORTENED HIS BETA LENGTH AND INCREASED SPECIAL ACTTION CONSUMPTION YESSSSS

[pseudo mortar]

He’s gone

[sharp ledge]

wait actually ?

I didn’t really check

[pseudo mortar]

https://bnent.eu/MHUR-S13-PatchNotes

[sharp ledge]

oh thank god now ppl won’t cry

[pseudo mortar]

I think he loses 50%

[halcyon gyro]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Enough hating. Now you guys actually get punished for spamming or refreshing.

You guys now actually have to stay in fights just a little longer. 🤏

[amber gazelle]

I mean he got some

oh I didn’t scroll down

[sharp ledge]

i still think he could use some more nerfs but ig this will suffice for now

[spring nimbus]

Didn’t touch his gamma unfortunately

[sharp ledge]

yea they should’ve made him unable to heal during gamma

[frosty geyser]

Get well soon monomanators

[sharp ledge]

no more assault endy monoma spammers im glad

[dim wraith]

Glad I learned how to play monoma regularly ik this day would come 😂😭

[sharp ledge]

fr he’s still so goated im never dropping him

[rocky flicker]

His beta is also a little nerfed I think

[rocky flicker]

It used to have a type of slight float to it's end before nerfs

[sharp ledge]

the momentum at the end got nerfed

red kiri and rapid ochako have better movement than him atm ngl

[vale kernel]

Rapid ochaco should

Strike kiri... eh. Its a tech.

How bad is the guage consumption?

[sharp ledge]

he can only cd reset 2 times

[vale kernel]

Better than it originally was i guess.

Would prefer he loses the copied quirk after some time.

Like he canonically does.

Also forces monomas to get more creative

[dim wraith]

He feels pretty balanced now. Hopefully people can stop complaining now

Eh nvm. He can still have great movement depending on what quirks you have, feel like this is a good spot tho. Don’t butcher him how they did twice

[paper mica]

Monoma nerfs happened, time to play the character now

I made a vow to not play monkma until he was nerfed

[sharp ledge]

nah now his movement is dependant on his quirks ngl

[paper mica]

How it should be imo

[sharp ledge]

yea I agree he’s my fav character in game and show and im glad he’s balanced and not a easy win

[paper mica]

He's balanced so now I'm gonna play him when I get home

[dim wraith]

He’s definitely has a leaning curve. That’s why I played him correctly even when he was “broken” best of luck to you 😭

[paper mica]

Im fine with a learning curve

Honestly I love stupid complexed characters

I can get someone to teach me if I need anyways lol

[dim wraith]

Same. Before monoma came out I main rapidgo

[paper mica]

I gotta get som1 to teach me him actually

[dim wraith]

Tyrant had an informative video up. He posted in the chat a couple months ago. Maybe he can link it again

[paper mica]

Ooo like actual guide vid? I dont see those often from this community at least, either that or my search hates me

[sharp ledge]

yea it’s peak

[paper mica]

Gimme

[paper mica]

How good it le video?

[sharp ledge]

it’s a guide it tells you some combos what kinda quirks you should look for if they happen to be in your lobby

[paper mica]

Trying to find it lol but youtube hate me

[sharp ledge]

https://youtu.be/t8oFB2pj-gY?si=9N6qWy3yNttERKp_ here’s the link

[paper mica]

Thank you

Greatly appreciated

[tepid cedar]

nope we gotta nerf the alphas beta and gamma hes too op bro

[paper mica]

Tbh he feels fair to fight to me at least

He cant like

Skybox for a minute straight

[sharp ledge]

are we serious ?

that’s just a huge skill issue on your end

[tepid cedar]

nope hes base kit doing too much damage nerf it to where he does 1 damage on alpha and 2.5 damage on beta and make his gamma go out fast

[sharp ledge]

ragebait 💔

[tepid cedar]

nun uh

[paper mica]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-gif-17870535188958174605

[sharp ledge]

then i say this with full respect you suck at the game

[tepid cedar]

he should be able to get 340+ off of me

[tepid cedar]

shshshs calm downnnnn

[sharp ledge]

huh ?

[tepid cedar]

yup he does 300+ damage

nerf him like hawks

[sharp ledge]

is he still the best character in game in your opinion ?

[tepid cedar]

nah trash horrible never be on my team horrible

idk why but the monomas i play with are trash now

[sharp ledge]

damm

[amber gazelle]

is gun better than knife

[sharp ledge]

istg I don’t get ppl who say monomas bad now💔

he’s still in the top 5

i rarely see him played

[amber gazelle]

gonna start maining him again soon

was busy with kurogiri, aizawa and nejire

need to get the crit perm on him

gonna be so devious

[sharp ledge]

peak run the high speed and revenge perm fit

monoma had some hawks level switch up all the meta slaves decided he’s bad after becoming balanced

[amber gazelle]

you dont need high speed tho

am probably just gonna pick something else

[paper mica]

https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/laBHw5PcbDcUC6i6O?invite=cr-MSx3SXIsMzA4MTU4MjA5 this buff is awesome!

[tall whale]

wow its like looking in a mirror

[tepid cedar]

no its the ones that relied on the infinite cooldowns

now it seems like they dont know how to play him

[sharp ledge]

yea he’s still insane with the right quirks

[sharp ledge]

yea they used him as a carry to ace

[grizzled frost]

Okay so after reading lengthy amounts of chats about monama im here to say as a monama main whoever touched him just ruined the game and made it easier argument for everyone to just trash talk him 😑 his cool down blah blah blah I thought at first it wasn't bad but I can't get on board im gonna uninstall this game if they don't fix it back. I literally only use monama and now there is no point & his special is Trash 🗑 now why even try. Whoever Ruined monama needs to be Fired ASAP 😤

[sharp ledge]

just curious did you use combos or just assault endys kit and spam it ?

[strong belfry]

lol ima just keep oneshotting ppl with ochaco's gamma and whatever comes in my way

he rlly just can't spam and fly that's all, everthing else hasnt changed

he still has blue character mobility by himself so eh

[sharp ledge]

yea his skill floor just got higher that’s pretty much

but idk why ppl are acting like he’s been gutted to twices levels 💔

[strong belfry]

Yeah his concept just makes him pretty good and fun to play, tho it requires you to have a good knowledge of the game

And if your only knowledge was how to press beta and special several times…

[sharp ledge]

fr hopefully he stays like this he’s in a pretty good state unless they wanna go for a gamma nerf that’d be fine

[strong belfry]

Just not being able to drink while in gamma and he’s perfect

[sharp ledge]

yea that’s it

[amber gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hardy-mad-max-point-thats-bait-gif-9452999

There is no world in which nerfing the guy who could spam spirit bombs from 500 feet in the air would not improve the game

[sharp ledge]

fr and now that he’s somewhat balanced people are comparing him to hawks and twice 💔

[cedar dune]

...

That's laughable

[sharp ledge]

fr all the assault endeavor monoma abusers calling him cheeks now

[paper mica]

Btw I've banned myself from using that gamma, its too strong

[sharp ledge]

try rapidgos alpha and tech mirios

alongside the deku gamma

[paper mica]

Yeah i have a rapidly friend so I have that pretty often

[sharp ledge]

the movement is insane

[paper mica]

I like playing monoma and not breaking the game

[sharp ledge]

i had an insane combo a few games ago Iida alpha rapidku beta and cat shiggy gamma the combos were insane

[paper mica]

My aim is bad so I can really secure kills tbh

[amber gazelle]

@sharp ledge

[sharp ledge]

yea it’s insane

it’s probably better than s11 monoma

movement wise

[amber gazelle]

definitely lol

[sharp ledge]

im still wondering if the gearshift movement on monoma is intentional or a bug

[warm moat]

what a clown LMAOOOOOOO

[sharp ledge]

yea fr monomas still in the top 5 💔

[warm moat]

idk about all that but he's definitely still good

[sharp ledge]

who’s your top 5 ?

[paper mica]

They need to emergency nerf ts 😭

[sharp ledge]

i think it might be intentional ngl

[paper mica]

Deku can't do it

Bc his melee puts him at a standstill

So they must've not thought to disable that

[sharp ledge]

afo can do it

he can fly

[paper mica]

Ok so yeah they didn't think about those 2 💀

Classic byking actually

[sharp ledge]

they probably forgot to do it for them cuz deku can’t do it

[paper mica]

Yes thats what i mean

BRO PLEASE PATCH THAT OUT

[sharp ledge]

hopefully it gets patched

[paper mica]

I want to play in an environment where monoma is balanced so badly

[sharp ledge]

it’s so funny to me how everyone dropped him after a slight balance

[paper mica]

I picked him up after that nerf, its not as spammy finally

[sharp ledge]

it’s kinda annoying how we still have rapid ochako and red kiri still walking around un nerfed

[paper mica]

Very much is

Yet I see them complaining about a minor change to their alpha 😭

[sharp ledge]

the movement rework helps rapid ochako so much

[paper mica]

Yeah, but byking slightly touched bluechaco alpha and they are fuming

[sharp ledge]

rapid ochakos just been getting fed amazing these past few patches

[paper mica]

She got off way too lightly still

I want to gentlemen with all monoma players here, do not grab ofa deku gamma because it is stupidly overpowered and I want monona to be balanced

[sharp ledge]

yea i wish you could use overdrive with monoma but its extremely hard and not worth the effort ngl

[paper mica]

Honestly please just disable melee canceling on the gamma and then the move is fine on monoma

[foggy rune]

What's monomas best costume/build?

I'm looking for something that hits real hard

Was thinking gp/hp attack+ tunes would be good but idk

[sharp ledge]

his best outfit is his UA fit with revenge perm and high speed

[foggy rune]

Ahhhh I don't have it

I have his jester heat

[sharp ledge]

do you have his clown outfit ?

[foggy rune]

Is that good?

[foggy rune]

Yh clown heat

What build should I run on it normal tunings wise?

Anyone know?

[foggy rune]

Keep in mind

[sharp ledge]

there isn’t any builds that have lots of damage slots cause he’s a new character but do you have hero souls ?

[foggy rune]

Not enough js spent on a char ticket lol

[foggy rune]

True

[sharp ledge]

his heat has good special tunes but the tuning slots are kinda ehh dmg wise

[foggy rune]

Yh

Thanks for the help anyways

[dim wraith]

Omg I didn’t know you can switch quirks that quickly that was nice!

[plush pollen]

Frrr, the new mobility makes it so smooth too!!

[sharp ledge]

it’s so peak

[amber gazelle]

good luck finding a cementoss in this economy

rapid mirios are easier to find but together

better to go for the rapid mirio alpha into yellow endeavour beta into rapid allmight gamma classic

[sharp ledge]

fr

it’s just continuous aoe slop 💔

[spring nimbus]

Yeah, the new momentum allows you to just circle around them after a beta, it’s hilarious actually😂

[tepid cedar]

true

im starting to barley see monomas now

[sharp ledge]

yea they’re acting like he’s been reduced to twice or hawks level when in reality he’s still amazing

shows that they were just meta slaves

[tepid cedar]

ye shows how they needed to use a busted character

but the thing i dont get is ppl still complaining about him

[sharp ledge]

yea he’s in a balanced state except some quirk combos like gear shift and technki alpha rapidgo alpha & tech mirio alpha

they’ve just gotta fix it if it’s a bug or if it’s intentional just nerf it a bit

[tepid cedar]

...

i agree

[tepid cedar]

crazy how this chat went dead tho

[sharp ledge]

yea majority of the ppl just came here to vent and complain about monoma

[tepid cedar]

lol ye

[amber gazelle]

Omg I just saw a post on Reddit

I need to try this with tech denki alpha

[dim wraith]

I’m seeing a lot of gear shift talk. I haven’t played the new season yet. what does it do?

[paper mica]

Monoma can cross the map under 10 seconds

As usual

I've banned myself from using gearshift so I actually improve at monoma

[amber gazelle]

@sharp ledge

[amber gazelle]

bro

I tried it with compress alpha instead...

the strike shiggy who was the last one left seeing a multitude of trucks rein from the heavens:

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[amber gazelle]

not gonna sugarcoat it

this is the most disgusting combo ever known to man

gives you free wins

[dim wraith]

So the gear shift is basically idas gamma?

[amber gazelle]

its better

[sharp ledge]

yea it’s insane

[sharp ledge]

it’s way better

[halcyon gyro]

I can't even hate anymore

Monoma's nerf actually makes him feel rewarding to play.

I'm starting to play him after this nerf, and it actually feels like I'm learning that character rather than just putting him on for a free win. 🙏

Yes, you Monomas are will annoying, but it now feels like there's some effort put into your playstyle.

[amber gazelle]

Bro did not scroll up

[sharp ledge]

Would you still consider putting him in the top 5

[halcyon gyro]

In terms of meta, heck yes he's a top 5.

In terms of my top 5 characters to play, personally. Not really, but what I am saying is he feels much better to play after the nerf.

It's crazy. I feel like I'm the only person who is now playing a character after a gutting nerf.

And boo to anyone who dropped Monoma after that nerf. Those people prove time and time again that they're a bunch of meta slaves.

@sharp ledge

[sharp ledge]

im still playing him and I like him more like this

he’s way more lore accurate cause in the show he’s always getting hit by kendo and passes out

[sharp ledge]

What’s your opinion on zeku

[halcyon gyro]

Zeku?

[sharp ledge]

zeta deku

[halcyon gyro]

OFA Deku?

[lime charm]

He's scary 💔

[sharp ledge]

yea

[halcyon gyro]

Braindead

The fact all his moves auto track, EVEN HIS MELEE.

[sharp ledge]

yea fr he has some insane melee tech to

[spring nimbus]

Yeah, his melee needs a substantial nerf imo, way too much value. And the auto lock range of his gamma as well as the refresh needs to be tuned down.

[amber gazelle]

wrong chat

nvm ya'll talking about deku I didn't scroll up

I agree

[foggy rune]

Anyone know a good monoma guide that's still relevant?

(Despite the nerfs)

thinking on yt but whatever works tbh

GUYS PLEASE GO AND UPVOTE THE FEEDBACK I JS LEFT, IT'S ONLY ONE SENTENCE, IF THAT
THANKS 🙏

[sharp ledge]

watch tyrants guide besides that there isn’t really much guides for him

[foggy rune]

Aight thanks

Preciate it man

[still harbor]

What’s the best tuning for him

[sharp ledge]

his UA uniform with high speed and permeation guardbreak

[sharp ledge]

peak combo

[still harbor]

What’s the order of upgrs?

[amber gazelle]

there is none

its dependent on what quirk combo you get