Hitoshi Shinso

[upbeat kelp]

but again

that only happens

if that person is alone

[dense urchin]

Being sent head first into the ground is annoying

[hollow tulip]

Gotta be a tad demoralizing when it’s from a super high height too

Like this lol

Hit and run tactics

[upbeat kelp]

unranked but still hey, W 17kills

[wicked trench]

He Lvl up order and combos

I just got him

[jolly yoke]

DAMNNNN

idk when the last time i've seen 17 kos not in a bot lobby

good stuff man

[upbeat kelp]

thank u

[brazen trellis]

W

[wicked trench]

What the lvl up order

And tuning build

I got he new costume

And the ua one too

[upbeat kelp]

beta to 4 then alpha full then finish beta, u only need gamma to 4 lowkey for the whole game since 4 gives u 2, but beta and alpha are ur most important and us this costume with this tuning

u can run sisterly yes, which is good but this build gives u the most dmg

u can change nejire to dabi or afo if u want up to u or even aizawa

but to be honest nejire gives me my pu like 3 times a game

its insane

[wicked trench]

The new costume i dont need to tuning it

But i can use it ??

[upbeat kelp]

oh u talking about the cyber one?

[wicked trench]

Yep

I got both

[upbeat kelp]

tbh his best tuning build is the ua track suit

but if u wanna use the new costume

then use this one 1 sec

[wicked trench]

Nah Its good i use it but use tuning ua

[wicked trench]

So his best on is the ua ?

[brazen trellis]

It’s not that big to make a difference?

It’s like 0.%

[upbeat kelp]

yea

for dmg wise

if u want the best output

[wicked trench]

Thx i take less damage and do more Its good

And i havent finshed it yet

[nova meteor]

I might be crazy but I'm pretty sure there's a higher damage set in his rare skins

I'm logging on to check

people overlook rares in tuning

so he only really cares about Beta damage+ thanks to his gamma being damageless and his alpha being glitched; but HP/GP damage up are always good. I run this kit when I want Embrittlement

Obviously less Embrittle uptime but you don't really need more than 6 seconds of Embrittle for your combos where you're applying it.

This has Beta, GP, HP, but could be 2x Beta + something else at your preference.

tldr one more red tuning slot while still maintaining embrittle

downside is Crushing PU probably gives you dummy numbers but this requires next to no resource investment and is nearly as effective (if not arguably identical fwiw)

[upbeat kelp]

this would really be just for the maxium output of his beta

the one i sent just adds overall dmg to the whole kit

alpha and beta

u can still get hight numbers heck to 300 almost but the rare skin is good

[nova meteor]

alpha damage is negligible because it only applies to the first half of his alpha. This set has GP+ and HP+ which apply universally

[upbeat kelp]

the rare is def good the embrittlement i belive last longer on them tho allowing the way u play to just easily kill them more, and the reason that build will be even better is when a serent tuning comes to the game

u would then replace it with the tuning

so its kinda like preparing for the next season

[nova meteor]

in fact this set should consistently outdamage the set you posted unless in PU; yours outdamages in PU but this one outdamages otherwise thanks to HP and GP attack power being as effective at increasing beta damage as Beta+, but also applying to the rest of the kit.

From a strictly numbers standpoint this kit outdamages the one you posted lol

(oh yeah I know the red tuning you're talking about at which point your skin overtakes this one)

[upbeat kelp]

i think the rare build is really good too

[nova meteor]

It's objectively the highest damage tuning he currently has lol (not counting PU)

[upbeat kelp]

but the set i posted is mainly a pu getting/dmg set

100%

but i think if u have the tuning

to run the one i posted

to be able to get pu 3 times a game

on like 2 kills

is too good

[nova meteor]

sure sure

It certainly helps him snowball

since he's already so strong at base

[upbeat kelp]

but yea the rare if u want the max dmg def

but u also could

add the hp and gp

to the set i put too

[nova meteor]

you've only got two red slots

so you'd lose out on damage long term comparatively. It's just the preference of "First two boxes free" vs "More frequent PU/Snowball"

[upbeat kelp]

yea preety much

cause like when that tuning comes to the game

cant say just in case mods are on demon time

and wanna ban me

but u would put the tuning in place of bakugo and IF its good

that build will be insane

[nova meteor]

oh ofc

that'll mean that you basically ToD from alpha --> air melee --> beta or whichever variation of those three you weave on like... half the cast, if not more.

Shinso's balanced /sarcasm

[robust cipher]

Any of you on xbox?

[hollow tulip]

Yup

[robust cipher]

Oh cool we should run a team sometime

[hollow tulip]

sent pm

[upbeat kelp]

i just cant stop cooking

[brazen trellis]

Nicely done

[robust cipher]

Lebron james ahh performance

[hollow tulip]

Embrittlement Shinso>

[lofty cipher]

MK Plus Ultra shinso set when?

[hollow tulip]

lol third partied some big team fights, got a team wipe off a team sharing loot/healing after a fight and just kept combo-ing with teammates

[jolly yoke]

embrittlement shinso stocks through the roof

[hollow tulip]

tried to tell em lol

[jolly yoke]

so glad sisterly got cut down the way it did

[hollow tulip]

love it

[wicked trench]

Lvl up order

[jolly yoke]

b7 a7 g4

some go b4 a7 iirc

[rugged zodiac]

I go b4 a4 b9 a9 g9

[hollow tulip]

Personally I do gamma 4 alpha 4 max beta max alpha max gamma

I love having tht 2nd gamma early

and am more confident in my ability to pick ppl off in their “dazed” state even with my low levels lol

tbh I Dnt think there’s a wrong path except like dnt max gamma first lol

[warm flint]

what kinda tunes we playing with now?

[dense urchin]

Haven't used Shinso in awhile

[nova meteor]

embrittle :)

[dense urchin]

High key this character is annoying to fight against

Being slammed head first into the ground isn't fun

It's only fun when I do it

[nova meteor]

I also really wanna try Electrification but I don't have tech denki lol

[arctic blaze]

whats the best build for his og costume ?

[warm flint]

I’ve seen your clips, your character pool is large and I hope I never see you

[warm flint]

For procing embrittlement is it best to get in and gamma?

What are some easy combos besides alpha alpha

[rugged zodiac]

Alpha beta

Beta alpha

[warm flint]

Thanks

[whole shell]

Shinso is Nejire's worst nightmare

[whole shell]

i sometimes do alpha, gamma, then beta

[hollow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-scorpion-get-over-here-mk11-mortal-kombat11-gif-17129778

[delicate stone]

L sisterly. Use embrittlement

It’s actually SO much better for Shinso I’m being so serious rn

[lofty cipher]

This was before the nerf.

My special tuning now is Embrittlement and the present mic one. Kinda like the mic tuning. Tho been debating on trying the endeavor one.

[warm flint]

Nice clip! Also thanks for sharing the deets on tune!

I was trying to find a yellow/ purple costume for emb and shock but no luck 🤣

[alpine cairn]

Shinso is pretty cool

[warm flint]

Super nice plays man

[alpine cairn]

Why did he get up like that after the down 😭

[alpine cairn]

Thank you!

[humble gazelle]

What tuning build is this?

[steel summit]

Same lol

[alpine cairn]

U.A. Tracksuit

[brazen trellis]

Willpower not seen many use that tbh

[warm flint]

I can’t get my dmg numbers up on shinso 😭

[warm flint]

I try to third party but I’m still only rocking 1500 dmg or so which is lame

[hollow tulip]

Tbh he’s more suited for picking off weaker ppl

so Dnt sweat it!

[mint kettle]

I'm tuning his UA Track suit(It's all I got 💀) but, I'm not sure if I should put Sisterly or Embrittlment as his Special Tunning?

[alpine cairn]

Embrittlment would be more efficient

especially after the sisterly nerf

[hollow tulip]

Embrittlement has always been the way for ski mask Shinso

[mint kettle]

Some ppl don't have Assault shigi so it's not "always".

[hollow tulip]

In this case the person was asking as if they had both

[mint kettle]

You assumed i had both. I just asked a question.

[hollow tulip]

Then why di…. Nevermind u got it lol

best of luck lol

[mint kettle]

Just because I don't have it doesn't mean I don't have to ask said question. I can ask just to ask. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[hollow tulip]

u asked the question as if you had a choice between 2 available options

Technically I shouldn’t assume u have kendo either right? Since she’s Character ticket character

Also you can tune by just having character data and not the character/skillset now right?

But nah u wanted to be weird lol

So you got it lol

best of luck

[mint kettle]

Sigh. Ppl just don't get it..

Mt lady it is.

[hollow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/shinso-hitoshi-mha-my-hero-academia-gif-2970387145288841782

Good luck out there

lol blocked me

[hollow tulip]

Hope to see u on Xbox lobbies and see how it’s working out for ya

[brazen trellis]

You don’t need him

100 data

[mint kettle]

I don't have the data for "him". Is what I'm trying to say.

I just wanted to see if anyone here plays different but, everyone uses the same thing.

[brazen trellis]

Different as in how

[mint kettle]

Everyone not using the same special Tunning for a specific outfit

[brazen trellis]

His melee is rlly good so it’s a waste not to use it

[mint kettle]

I don't beilive that a tune is better than the other. That just depends on the user.

[brazen trellis]

Go use battlefield analysis then

Some special tunings are far greater then the others

That’s just the way it’s made 🤷‍♂️

[mint kettle]

If theres an outfit for it. Then bet I'll use analysis. Again, it deepends on the user.

[brazen trellis]

Can’t wait for you to prove yourself wrong 🫱🏻‍🫲🏽

I wish you good luck

[mint kettle]

Thanks

[hollow tulip]

Dude asked a question with an A or b option then said everyone uses the same thing lol

[hollow tulip]

😂😂😂😂😂

Was super weird way about going bout this whole thing

[jolly yoke]

this is genuinely the stupidest thing I have ever read in my LIFE

you know it's bad if I'm jumping to defend mechmike

you asked "should I wear a red shirt or black shirt"
bro answered "black shirts are always better"
and then you responded by saying "well not always better because I don't own black shirts"

not even gonna comment on the fact that bro has watched FAR too much anime talking about some "There are no bad tunings! just bad players!"

coming from the same person who said

"I seriously hate the fact that you have to "Stop" just to get Ochaco's Vertical Jump Height. That's so stupid. A litteral waste of Special Tune skill."

no no! it's not a waste! you're just a bad player who can't adapt to the playstyle!

[mint kettle]

👍

Ik

[hollow tulip]

lmaoo i appreciate tht

https://tenor.com/view/controlling-laugh-laughing-oh-god-thats-funny-funny-thats-hilarious-gif-26533352

[jolly yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/dyar-and-owen-handshake-guy-gif-19400886

[hollow tulip]

like if me n him agree u gotta really look and be like "dang i messed up"

[warm flint]

What’s your top damage shinso game?

[hollow tulip]

but embrittlement shinso > all other special tuning for him

[warm flint]

I’m on emb/kota, except I feel like kota costs me matches lol

[hollow tulip]

i had like 10-11 k game recently idk if i got the screenshot cuz i was so hype

[hollow tulip]

it is just me or is kota addiciting? lol

[warm flint]

That’s crazzzzy

I’m running after kota , pinging it, fighting the squads, only to find myself alone

I cry

[hollow tulip]

for context also there 2 kurogiris some froppies, a ibarra and a toga taking all their blood saving teammates lol @warm flint

i think like half of them had overhaul special tuning

it was rough lol

[warm flint]

My damage is booty on aizawa and shinso, I’m probably a slightly below average player, is what it is

[hollow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-can-do-this-all-day-marvel-gif-14017033

me

[hollow tulip]

the best way to play shinso is 3rd party your own team imo

have them communicate whos weak

and target them

i get way more crazy ko games than damage games

[warm flint]

I solo Que, communication is 0

[hollow tulip]

simply cuz im clean up crew

ah thts tough lol

[warm flint]

Haha still enjoy the game, I hit expert and haven’t done much since

[hollow tulip]

for solo que try to get a feel for what character teammate is using and do your best to capitalize

more than one opponent should not see you imo

straight anbu black ops is my mindset

[warm flint]

Thanks for the tips, I probably can use the same advice for aizawa

[hollow tulip]

i actually used the advice i got from when aizawa first dropped for shinso

shinso is a duelist imo

[warm flint]

I’m w keying and going to get a kill or get killed

[hollow tulip]

back row killer in rivals terms lol

[warm flint]

Haha love some rivals, haven’t been on there since Mr fantastic

[hollow tulip]

u know how ppl complain about spiderman?

thts ppl complaining about my shinso

[warm flint]

Ahh, lol

[hollow tulip]

may sound weird but thts how my brain understands stuff by comparing to others

[brazen trellis]

I’m gonna say that I disagree with the last bit. I’m yet to see gameplay but if you’re willing to learn and try then you aren’t a bad player and you can adapt your own playstyle and choose whatever tunings you wanna use 🫱🏻‍🫲🏽

It’s just most people have embrittlement because shinso melee is so strong and helps his playstyle

[hollow tulip]

any high level shinso streamers/content creators yall recommend?

i feel like theres a whole other level tht im missing

like some many characters have cancels

idk shinsos

my main thing is alpha, air melee, gamma, beta

and mixing it up from there

ill do alot of vert beta on knock down to break line of sight into a beta drop

anyone got a bag deeper than that?

lol tryna add to it

[warm flint]

My bag, is no bag

ty for info tho

[warm flint]

fr tried to alpha, air melee, and immediately gamma

I'm losin my brain lol

[hollow tulip]

That’s my go to cuz of embrittlement lol

U can beta after too and now they hurt and confused 😂

[warm flint]

wait you can chain the alpha air melee gamma or wait for them to get up

[hollow tulip]

Alpha air melee gamma beta is all combo

U can actually swap the gamma and air melee too

[mint kettle]

I won't ask anything again. I'll just use what's best for me.

[warm flint]

I'll practice this

[hollow tulip]

Or just not be weird about questions u are asking for help on

Like everyone is typically pretty helpful

But u did this with your response

Should’ve just been “thanks appreciate it”

[warm flint]

kota is a curse man

either you pop off, or your fighting 4 other shinsos

[quaint schooner]

I may not use Shinso, but I just know that I will clip a wing off if it means I win that fight for Kota

https://tenor.com/view/hawks-bnha-keigo-takami-mha-gif-18242346

I either walk away from that fight with Kota, or I'm not walking anymore

[nova meteor]

I've also been enjoying a Wall Run + Card Dupe set when I'm not feeling like embrittle

[hollow tulip]

"I think the damaging functionality of Shinso's beta should consume up to two charges, similar to the way Overhaul's SA works."

ice cold take lol

[warm flint]

That’s booty

I’ll take that with an alpha damage increase 😈

Then beta becomes escape and alpha is damage

[hollow tulip]

like the beta is a risk move

cuz it cost movement but its your best damage attack

if they were to do tht they would need to buff ammo and or damage

[dense urchin]

Really starting to hate this character

[polar lava]

https://youtu.be/txj0d54BA-Q

[worthy cloud]

I think we would be alright if Shinso got nerfed like this

1: His beta damage is reduced by 1/3.
2: Alpha combo times are dropped. You can hit an alpha, and have enough time to miss one, correct it, and finish the combo. Make his inputs more demanding.
3: Remove how gamma slows rolls. Regular movement reduction is fine, keep rolls and I-frames how they are with/without his gamma.
4: Make SA only drop one item at a time and reduce the stun timer by 2/3.

How we feeling about these? I'm personally cool with all these. I'm gonna make a vid about it later, but I do NOT want to get into trouble for self promo.

[honest dirge]

Tbh for me I don’t think so with it, just to me I think he is balanced but that’s just my opinion

[worthy cloud]

I think that way, too. I'm just saying if and when he's nerfed (because Byking is Byking), these would be alright. I like his kit now, it's so fun. I'm just tired of getting pinged for people annoyed at being killed by Shinso, and basically getting mad when I try to defend him. Made this just to make it, you know? A "just in case" thing.

[honest dirge]

Yeah that’s true I understand that

[dense urchin]

Fighting against this character isn't a fun experience

All he needs is his alpha bug fixed

[jolly yoke]

maybe im crazy, but beta damage reduced by one third is an INSANE number, and would probably be enough on it's own the rest is unneeded if we're going that far

[jolly yoke]

fwiw i think stuns/movement stopping things just tilt people and they're gonna complain about that more than other stuff

[dense urchin]

Anything that restricts movement is annoying

But I wanna put my opponents into a blender

[hollow tulip]

tht shinso nerf proposal was dogwater ngl lol

respectfully

the beta does alot of damage yes but it cost u your best movement

all his attacks cause him to be stationary for the most part

just like how he is very good comboing with his team, he is very weak against teamwork

if they were to nerf his beta damage they would need to shorten the reload speed at that point

as far as his gamma we need more status affecting moves tbh

ppl complained about shoto ice too

simply cuz they didnt like being stopped

also think about alot of folks complaining are rapid mains lol

we need more characters to restrict rapids/movement other wise u need an across the board nerf of all rapids and movement cuz we cant only reward "fast" playstyles

what they could do to fix it and when his skillset drops(if he ever gets one) make the special tuning similar to resist fire, ice, shock

lol sorry for the rant

just annoyed cuz the same ppl who be complaining about his damage are rapids who do hella damage or have stuns of they own

if they pinging u for using shinso tell em hop off lol

[uncut fossil]

Racism in mhur before GTA 6 🥀✌️

[upbeat kelp]

W agreed

[hollow tulip]

No idea how I hit the toga lol

[honest dirge]

Honestly I agree with you hard on this that is fr facts

[hollow tulip]

Let’s EAT GANG

[stable fern]

I never ran into this on switch

[rugged zodiac]

Then you are blessed by god’s kiss or smth

[celest cradle]

Uh I got shinso and his cyberpunk outfit back before the update ended but idk if I should tune him and try to play him, is he good?

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah hes good

Do it

[celest cradle]

Okay

[foggy sentinel]

Not the greatest but a couple I wanna share anyway

[hollow tulip]

I like embrittlement and bakugo special tuning but man when u solo queue and can’t trust teammates revenge support is so good lol

Can’t make up my mind for what i wanna run

[carmine hearth]

What is good Tunning for Shinsou 🙏

[foggy sentinel]

Idk I just run embrittlement

[carmine hearth]

Bet I’ll do that 👍

[foggy sentinel]

There’s a good budget build and and a couple decent pur builds for embrittlement

[hollow tulip]

lol someone told me Shinso was low skill

And he needed nerf cuz he moves like a rapid so he shouldn’t hit as hard lol

Anyways here’s a little highlight for me lol

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah nah

[hollow tulip]

its some wild takes out here fam

[foggy sentinel]

Twice is no skill ahh take

[hollow tulip]

matter of fact actually

someone else chimed in

"shinso beta is just as bad a twice gamma"

let out a real life lol when it was sent lol

[foggy sentinel]

That’s just wrong though they have entirely different issues

[hollow tulip]

it’s weird to me that ppl dnt have same dislike for Shinso as eraser

When Eraser has more movement and does really good damage too

(Plus has some wild tunings)

I think it’s cuz eraser earned a reputation early on for being “high skill” but feel like everyone knows the combos now

[foggy sentinel]

Hes not even high skill tbh

[dense urchin]

Why does his beta hit through walls

[foggy sentinel]

???

It doesn’t

[dense urchin]

It does

[foggy sentinel]

When

Because it doesn’t

[dense urchin]

Just happened to me

[foggy sentinel]

It could be lag because that doesnt hit through walls

[hollow tulip]

lol yea it don’t

I wish 😂

Would be beyblading all the buildings 😂

[foggy sentinel]

He peeked inside a little bit

And also most likely lag was a factor in it too

[hollow tulip]

Yea it’s the peek

I always aim like a foot or 2 into doorways to hit around tht corner

[hollow tulip]

2v1 clutch

Bakugo gotta look up

[hollow tulip]

Jump pads are your friends fellow beyblades lol

[celest cradle]

Y’all what’s the best way to level up shinso

Gameplay wise, I get K.Os sometimes

[hollow tulip]

alot of ppl say max beta first but i like to get my alpha and gamma to at least 4 first for the extra ammo then max beta then alpha

[celest cradle]

Ty

[foggy sentinel]

I go b9 g4 a9 g9

[celest cradle]

Ok

[hollow tulip]

kudos to u man lol living off the 3 alphas tht long is rough for me

[crude marsh]

What's this man's best tuning ? Both entire outfit and special tuning, im using shigaraki's special tuning for now and random tunings for normal ones

[dense urchin]

Embrittlement

[crude marsh]

dang i dont have any outfit for that

[dense urchin]

You don't have his U.A outfit?

[crude marsh]

nope, didnt get it when it was on the battle pass

idk how else to get it

[dense urchin]

Well you missed it

It's one of his best outfits for special tuning

[crude marsh]

can i get any other way ?

[dense urchin]

Nope

[crude marsh]

what is his second best outfit ?

[dense urchin]

I don't have his other outfit

[crude marsh]

well what is it ?

[hollow tulip]

Do u have cyber hero? @crude marsh

This what I run

[crude marsh]

nope but thx

[hollow tulip]

Oh dang so you don’t have any of the Pur?

Thts tough

One sec I’ll look at his free costumes

[hollow tulip]

Do you have his hero costume heat?

[crude marsh]

i only have villain default, i got extremly unlucky with pulls

[hollow tulip]

Dang

If the only one u have I guess will power and gp sucker then

it’s not much but it’s something

[crude marsh]

"its not much but its honest work"

[hollow tulip]

lol yup

Sucks u didn’t get his season pass one

[crude marsh]

i cant really play much

[hollow tulip]

They need add a way to get those kinda outfits after the fact

[crude marsh]

should i spend my gems on pulling for costume rolls ?

[hollow tulip]

nah tbh

[crude marsh]

i agree so hard

[hollow tulip]

If u really want shinso outfit bad save a 1k tickets and u gotta hope it gets on a banner pity eventually

Shinso kinda in the same boat as overhaul rn

Not a lot of options

[crude marsh]

im so unlucky

[hollow tulip]

It happens!!

The good news is shinso isn’t tuning dependent rn!

So u can still have a lot of fun without it

Mindset with shinso is think like the sidekick lol

Isolate targets while the main character focuses the other enemies

[crude marsh]

oh i see

im still learning him, i didnt even understand why his betta was good till i used it for attacks

[hollow tulip]

the main character can be your teammate or not lol

Alpha air melee gamma beta is THEE combo

Alpha cancel into special action if u need to steal a res card

Alpha alpha If they too far

Alpha beta is people’s go to

[hollow tulip]

Jump pad and beta for a good time @crude marsh

Whoops wrong video

The one above that

[crude marsh]

i see

hank you

[hollow tulip]

Np

He’s super straight forward

[crude marsh]

if i ever need help do you mind if i dm you personally ?

[hollow tulip]

But remember a lot of your moves cause you to stand still

So group fights without a teammate ain’t best idea

Sure

[crude marsh]

i found out the hard way

[crude marsh]

thank you so much

[hollow tulip]

U probably see me around in Xbox lobbies lol

I don’t use shinso outside of ranked too much rn cuz I’m trying to learn rapid might but just know if u see me as shinso in unranked I’m either practicing combos with a friend who’s learning someone new or I’m hunting for someone who t bagged me prior lol

[crude marsh]

lol good to know, i play on playstation lobbies

[foggy sentinel]

Hero costume heat is incredible for tunes and it can give you embrittlement

[blissful violet]

Can some one please tell a combo

[foggy sentinel]

Alpha air melee gamma beta

[blissful violet]

Thanks

[dusty storm]

Double alpha
Alpha beta
Alpha special action before he does the slam into beta

There are some moments I think you need high level gamma and opponent is close to a wall but you can beta into gamma into beta

I’ve seen some do
Air melee
Into melee
Special action into beta

Dunno how

[nova meteor]

there's also air melee double beta but it's stupid precise

and only works on flesh

and then this patch I think they removed his special action gamma extensions but I'm not 100% certain

[foggy sentinel]

You can go sa gamma m1 beta still but you have to wait out the down power reset to make everything connect and not just knock after the gamma

[fallow venture]

What do you think is Shinso's favorite band or artist?

My answer? He's just giving that he's a Clancy fan.

I just know he plays the 21 Pilots Blurryface album again and again.

[amber onyx]

he would be a heylog fan

[lavish fulcrum]

level order?

[foggy sentinel]

I go b9 g4 a9 g9

[lavish fulcrum]

why neglect alpha

[foggy sentinel]

Because three is all you need

[lavish fulcrum]

doesn't it help with combos

[lavish fulcrum]

ok...

[hollow tulip]

I do alpha 4 beta 9 gamma 4 alpha max gamma max now

Alpha to 4 helps a lot

[lavish fulcrum]

That's what i'm saying

[hollow tulip]

All good everyone has their differences

Tbh the beta is pretty good regardless of level

I’ve done gamma 4 alpha 4 beta max alpha max in the past

[lavish fulcrum]

yeah

[hollow tulip]

Both worked good for me

[amber onyx]

i do a4 b9 g4 a9 g9
he does not start with a lot of alpha shots and it makes chasing down low enemies harder
maxing beta is just the standard since that is his move that youll be using the most in combos
gamma wise just getting that second charge is enough to use in combos, any spare level cards should just go towards ensuring your dps stays on point and that you can decently pick off enemies fast

[brazen trellis]

Finally gotten around to tuning the us tracksuit ready for kendo

[amber onyx]

brotherly + embrittlement it’s over for rapids

[dense urchin]

?

Oh I get it

[dusty storm]

I do alpha 4 then full beta then Alpha then gamma

[dusty storm]

No more Kota finder shinso for me

[lavish fulcrum]

why not gamma

[hollow tulip]

lol dang embrittlement Shinso nerf

[dense urchin]

He can do without it

It got nerfed from 25% to 10%

[hollow tulip]

Yeesh

Didn’t think it would be so extreme

But think I have an idea why

[dense urchin]

You know why they did it

Kendo SS releases in 2 weeks

[hollow tulip]

lol NOW they wanna be pro active

[jolly yoke]

crazy embrittle nerf but i aint super mad at it

aizawa killing my patience for embrittlement 🙏

conceptually though its corny to release smth like kendo SS and then nerf embrittle

why not just make a different tuning instead of embrittle part 2 😭

[dense urchin]

Lol

You expect too much from the devs

[hollow tulip]

my thing is embrittlement felt like such a good counter to sisterly

and yes i know sisterly got nerfed but felt like shinso embrittlement was such a good counter even after sisterly got nerfed to 30%

sisterly needs to go down more if embrittlement went down this much

[brazen trellis]

No

Reason being

They’re preparing for kendo

[hollow tulip]

sisterly could go to 25% tbh

[brazen trellis]

30% will be good or bad depending on what the % is for the kendo tuning

[hollow tulip]

yea depends on what they release next

or even further down the line

lol everyone telling me to switch to space hop

[amber onyx]

kendos brotherly is marked as a 5% on the database which is a bit low but

i think they might buff it when she releases

[foggy sentinel]

Hmm

That tracksuit build might be really strong again

[amber onyx]

mhm we are def gonna see a lot of that

brotherly + embrittlement

good lord

[foggy sentinel]

Depending on how good strike sisterly is I might stick with willpower though

[amber onyx]

i believe in byking and their ability to overtune the shi out of all skillsets

[foggy sentinel]

You so right

[bitter remnant]

Shinso is literally Aizawa on easy mode

[dense urchin]

Yep

[junior shoal]

UA track suit tuning?

[foggy sentinel]

This is what I used

I changed a couple things but it doesn’t really matter much tbh

[junior shoal]

Funny enough I used almost the exact same

I replaced denki’s with endeavors and endeavors with mic’s.

And the special tuning was crushing PU

[delicate stone]

https://tenor.com/view/mha-shinso-hitoshi-shinso-mhur-my-hero-academia-gif-15252302045410835451

[hollow tulip]

personally not fan of will power just cuz how slow the beta is

easy target at 1 hp lol

prefer it on more agile characters

[foggy sentinel]

That’s valid actually

[hollow tulip]

i wanted to like it lol

red bakugo or kota finder there for now

for me

or i run the other tuning with embrittlement and revenge support

[foggy sentinel]

Usually it works out for me because I don’t wake up do something so I manage to escape or get into a decent spot for a beta or I have pu

[hollow tulip]

nice

i was not so lucky in my testing with it lol

[foggy sentinel]

Looking back idk how I get away with it now

I really shouldn’t

[hollow tulip]

lol hey if it works

[foggy sentinel]

If it works

[gritty turtle]

One of you stole my kota drinks

I don’t fw yall no more

[dense urchin]

Dang

Well that's too bad

[random harbor]

Might've been me I whisper into some todos ear earlier

[drifting wave]

On the road to ace rank, I got bunch of good shinso clip

I've mained him since he dropped and with the right bulid and good aim he's good

He lacks good mobility tho, he has a delayed B ability, and it doesn't help that its pretty delayed

Good damage but he's especially a good stealth character

[hollow tulip]

thank u for saying this lol

too many ppl try to say hes a rapid

glad you are enjoying him

what builds u liking for him?

personally i swap between embrittlement with revenge support or the red bakugo tuning/ kota finder

[drifting wave]

I make many bulids with him, tmmw ill show a few they are xool

[hollow tulip]

nice! cant wait to seem em

[drifting wave]

Yup! I couldent get hitoshis U.A track suit since at the season I had gotten punished, but I always have had crazy ideas for shinsos tuning
(I actually dont use embrittlement because I can no longer get that tracksuit outfit and it sucks😭 )

[drifting wave]

Those are all really good, although I would recommend Kota finder on a character like Hawks, those are all very good picks

[hollow tulip]

They really need to do like a legacy shop/roll for old season pass items

[drifting wave]

THEY DO

Matter of a fact

Make it for gold

Because gold is practically useless

[hollow tulip]

Just make it like a rotating store

But yea wouldn’t mind more Shinso PUR’s lol

But plenty of others who need it more

[dense glade]

Anybody notice that they nerfed his air melee 😔

[amber onyx]

tbf his air melee is one of the best air melees in the game

[foggy sentinel]

They did?

[dense glade]

i would agree with that statement last season but this season it just doesn't move the same.

[amber onyx]

thats certainly true

i normally use his air melee after an alpha to proc any melee tuning, so it hasnt affected me too much outside of that

[dense glade]

i main shinso and it just doesn't move the same this season it just kinda sucks, it doesn't move you forward as much as it used too it sucks

[amber onyx]

fellow shinso main

byking got his ahh off the banner and instantly had to sneak in some shadow nerfs

[dense glade]

he feels off this season even when he swings with his beta

[foggy sentinel]

Tbh I didn’t notice much about it

It feels the same to me

[amber onyx]

it really only pokes out when you try to air melee for momentum

otherwise if its a part of most of his combos he is doing fine

[foggy sentinel]

That’s what I do though

[amber onyx]

it used to give you a decent amount of forward momentum but this season definitely feels a bit slower

[foggy sentinel]

Ik it did but it feels fine to me

[dense glade]

i find myself doing more alpha alpha combos rather then alpha melee combos cause i cant guarantee a melee hit because of the nerf

[gritty turtle]

Why did he just call me the hard r

[dense urchin]

💀

[hollow tulip]

Air melee feels same to me

[hollow tulip]

Huh

lol are they saying nerf its hitbox?

Or they talking about the beta lol

[dense urchin]

Most likely his beta

[hollow tulip]

lol i love the "no skill" haters on shinso

its pretty simple kit but u have to be very mindful of your surrondings cuz u are stationary for most of your moves

[dense glade]

Agreed, he also doesn't really have defense other then slowing people down with his gamma or using his beta to get away

[dense urchin]

So you forgot about his special action

[rugged zodiac]

They don’t like the fact that you can move with the beta without needing a wall or a ceiling. Also he is wrong

Twice can do it too, so does blue toga

[bitter remnant]

Anyone down to play?

[drifting wave]

So these are my current 2 (i used to have high speed replenishment on the first one but since I focus more on kills hp sucker is awesome to have)

I know its not much but i save on keys

Because im F2p

And thats the worse thing you could be in this game

😭

[hollow tulip]

Oh wow don’t see those too often

[drifting wave]

I used to HEAVY main aizawa and I made bulids with him and tech dabi

I have a bit of tuning bulids but I would have had more if the devs weren't so greedy😭

[dense glade]

i'm down i kind of want to get a customs going, i got shadow banned

[bitter remnant]

VC?

[dense glade]

i would but i'm in a party witba friend rn

[bitter remnant]

I would but am already playing with someone

Sorry

[dense glade]

all good mate

[stable zenith]

There's a combo on shinsho where you jump melee alpha and jump melee again does decent damagae

[stable zenith]

You can also use jump melee into alpha into beta

Or alpha into jump melee and then beta

Good to break guards

[hollow tulip]

Fun fact you can “juggle” a downed opponent with your air melee

Did it to a dabi to put him out of zone cuz everything was on cooldown 🤣

[dense urchin]

I do that also

[honest dirge]

Literally cooking with Shinso

[hollow tulip]

https://youtu.be/jqG2BuPnGLQ?si=p7l0fmDO9ZlKSBMx

Cool special tuning but idk about the regular tuning

[unique hound]

Électrocution shinso its good ?

[hollow tulip]

Haven’t seen one tbh

[hollow tulip]

shinsos rejoice

your alpha negates strike kendos beta

[dense urchin]

Aizawa can pull her with his alpha twice while she's using her beta

Can Shinso do like 3 alphas?

[hollow tulip]

nah it just knocks her out cuz of the slam i think

[umbral gulch]

pls nurf shinso🙏 😭, hes been busted for 2 seasons now, i cant take this no more

[hollow tulip]

hes not busted lol

def came to wrong chat for that lol

[foggy sentinel]

he is slightly overtuned

reduce beta damage a smidge

[hollow tulip]

lol its funny cuz thts not even main thing ppl complain about

[foggy sentinel]

really?

[hollow tulip]

they cry about the alpha non stop

personally i think if u nerf the beta damage u gotta buff the reload speed

[foggy sentinel]

i mean that makes sense ig but its not the ball of death

[foggy sentinel]

no?

the reloads are fine

theyre good even

[hollow tulip]

i say tht cuz hes beta is movement OR damage

[foggy sentinel]

the biggest problem is that he has a 160 damage ball of death

[hollow tulip]

its not like alot of moves tht do both at same time

[foggy sentinel]

and its fine as is so why would we even need to touch the reloads

itll keep the same utility it just wont be broken

[hollow tulip]

then damage is fine as is imo too

[foggy sentinel]

but its not

it does as much damage as a kiri punch and its better than kiri punch

[hollow tulip]

kiri punch also does damage as hes moving

[foggy sentinel]

so does shinso beta

[hollow tulip]

no hes sacrificing his movement to do damage

[foggy sentinel]

also kiri's beta is not good mobility

[foggy sentinel]

and thats why he has a good reload

idk what so hard to understand here

[hollow tulip]

and thats why it should do high damage too

[foggy sentinel]

the beta has an already good reload so it shouldnt be changed at all

[hollow tulip]

maybe im not explaining it right sorry

[foggy sentinel]

lower the damage a little bit because it does way too much for what it does

[hollow tulip]

agree to disagree respectfully

[foggy sentinel]

alr

[hollow tulip]

but hey to each their own

[foggy sentinel]

yuh

[hollow tulip]

we'll see what they do

[foggy sentinel]

watch them nerf gamma

[hollow tulip]

theres far worse out there to worry about than shinso beta for the devs lol

[foggy sentinel]

cough cough twice damage

[hollow tulip]

lol twice gamma, iida beta, red kiri, monoma special action etc

[foggy sentinel]

they need to hit alpha hard make beta summon 100 flat tweak the clones a little and nerf the gamma tracking a little

[hollow tulip]

they need to pick what they want tht gamma to have

stun or tracking

not both

[foggy sentinel]

with the range i think it should have both but not to the extent it is rn

[hollow tulip]

u on console?

[foggy sentinel]

its almost as good as redbi beta it does not need all that tracking

[foggy sentinel]

ye

[hollow tulip]

i wonder if tht last patch helps twice calm down a bit

[foggy sentinel]

last patch feels great

[hollow tulip]

im talking the one from last night

[foggy sentinel]

i already practiced pc twice more so it feels normal playing with the bug fix

[foggy sentinel]

ik

[hollow tulip]

nice

good to know

prolly gonna get back into playing shinso more

[foggy sentinel]

not having all that range on switch is incredible

[hollow tulip]

been rapid all might alot

[foggy sentinel]

i can still cook and now people really cant call me bad

[foggy sentinel]

w

hes really fun

[hollow tulip]

super

took me 19 rolls lol

so im getting my tickets worth

[foggy sentinel]

i cant remember how many rolls it took me

i think a little over 30

[hollow tulip]

after seeing kendo tuning and embrittlement nerf im so sad for what i had planned for my shinso lol

but its for the best

[foggy sentinel]

yeah it is

[hollow tulip]

i wanted to try the spiral leap and space hop shinso but the base tuning on the outfit is really bad lol

[foggy sentinel]

im thinking of trying space hop shinso on the ua fit when i get the data

[hollow tulip]

same

[foggy sentinel]

rn its still embrittlement because i like that little extra bit of damage

[hollow tulip]

its his best costume rn

in terms of the base tuning

[foggy sentinel]

funnily enough for base tuning i think his default heat is best

[hollow tulip]

hm ill check it out

[foggy sentinel]

problem is that its a budget build

[hollow tulip]

i would love a wall runner space hop PUR

[foggy sentinel]

yeah thatd be fun af

[teal gulch]

He really called it

[drifting wave]

https://youtu.be/ClcvA96fcIM?si=aeJSRQQ43slj66Fa

[alpine cairn]

I really like space hop

[hollow tulip]

How u liking willpower there? I always felt like I was too slow to use it so I use bakugo or kota finder there

[alpine cairn]

It helps me get out of really bad situations honestly I can't see myself playing shinso without it cause when he gets jumped, he kinda just goes down really fast

[hollow tulip]

Hmm I’ll revisit it then appreciate it!. Can you Post the full build when u get chance?

[alpine cairn]

yeah sure I'll send it after my round

@hollow tulip

[hollow tulip]

lol out of curiosity why overhaul since the gamma doesn’t do damage?

I like it tho Ima give it a shot

[alpine cairn]

I use it for hp

[hollow tulip]

ahh

[brazen trellis]

Momo exists

Or ibara

One of em

[alpine cairn]

don't have those characters

[hollow tulip]

Did kota finder instead for now and had couple of things different it overall doesn’t feel awful

[honest dirge]

Yeah it is tbh

[alpine cairn]

kota finder is alright but a lot of the times another character with better mobility will reach kota before you can

[hexed zinc]

Back then when shinso's alpha was a little bugged and almost died because of it

[hollow tulip]

That eraser was crawling for his poor life

[hexed zinc]

I never meant to hit him lol
He just randomly got into my beta

Poor aizawa

[hollow tulip]

lol it’s just funny cuz u just fighting and he’s crawling tryna hide

Funnier with every watch cuz we allll been there lol

[gritty turtle]

DO AS YOUR TOLD

GO

[honest dirge]

Real

[alpine cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

[dusty storm]

Love the nerf shinso when he’s the most open chararcer to get bullied while he’s in his alpha animation

[dusty storm]

W rapid ochako bullying

[hollow tulip]

lol its wild

[mint kraken]

Eh you stand still for like 2 seconds max

And you can do it in the air

you could say the same thing about Ibara

[dusty storm]

I can tell you a lot of things happen in these two seconds

[mint kraken]

Except they don’t most of the time

Shinso just is a low skill Aizawa to me (and Aizawa already has an incredibly low skill floor)

And no one underrates Aizawa by saying he has to stand still

bigger threats than Shinso in this game rn but if this game ever got serious about balancing he’s like the 7th character they should nerf

maybe 5th

[dusty storm]

Space hop shinso is drug addiction

[dense urchin]

💀

[hollow tulip]

its growing on me lol

have a ochaco main friend whos good at moving without the special action so she uses it on me and jesus lol

zero gravity beyblades are dangerous lol

good for getting vert to see whole map too

[dusty storm]

I cannot use shinso without it at all now lmao

[foggy sentinel]

I spent all my space hop data to make a rapid twice build so I’m still using embrittlement shinso rn

I wanna try it though

[hollow tulip]

lol I could see that. It definitely becomes a bit of a crutch after couple of games ngl

[dawn bobcat]

🤮🤮🤮

You’re all monsters

How could you use such a vile ability

[dusty storm]

Monoma fault

I was trynna enjoy Every other character but monoma existed and ruined all fun

[foggy sentinel]

Vile

[dawn bobcat]

By why space hop, isn’t spiraling enough 😔

[foggy sentinel]

And idk it’s pretty cool

No

Big big jump make brain go awooga

[dawn bobcat]

I don’t know what you’re talking about?

[foggy sentinel]

My apologies I seem to have made an error

[dense urchin]

Yall keep using space hop when I'm using Strike Shiggy

[regal hawk]

Nothing amazing

[old lion]

Skill order and any must-have special tunings? 🤔

[hollow tulip]

lol right now the special tuning I think a lot of us are enjoying is space hop

I still like embrittlement but space hop is really really good(credit to whoever suggested that to me mid season here)

As far as skill order most ppl are max beta and max alpha then max gamma

If you are learning I say alpha 4, gamma 4(both give extra ammo) max beta, max alpha max gamma

[dusty storm]

Hello that’s me

I am using it to bully the absolute of tamaki players whenever they try to wake up SA

[dusty storm]

get alpha 4 then max beta

Then alpha 7 then gamma 4 then max alpha

[hollow tulip]

credit where credit is due

if embrittlement wasnt nerf we would be rocking it and iron fist tho lol

[old lion]

Why Space Hop besides the Suneater matchup? I feel like being the air so long is a huge tradeoff vs. being able to roll, so I'm curious if this is purely for offensive when you feel like you can keep someone locked down with Alpha or something

Also, thank you, everyone:)

Any budget tuning suggestions?

[hollow tulip]

what ive noticed is i can save a beta now

instead of using one to elevate i can just jump to get same vert

then beta away or beta back down

budget i def recommend melee based tunings

alpha into air melee on non space hop/S. Leap is still great for budget builds @old lion

hope tht helps!

[hollow tulip]

I think they shadow nerfed Shinso combo….

[foggy sentinel]

which one

from what ive tested they all work as usual

[hollow tulip]

It’s when they have shield but my alpha air melee was causing I frames idk why

So when I do the gamma it’s either failing or knocking them down so I can’t do the beta

[foggy sentinel]

for me the beta just wont connect

so id just catch them when they dont have iframes or just set it up to perform it on hp

[dusty storm]

I am praying on monoma mains souls that shinso gets a Yellow/blue special tuning so I’d run card duplicate Space hop shinso

[hollow tulip]

i wanna try wall runner space hop lol

[dawn bobcat]

The day they give me Shinso 🙏

One day, Imma have it one day

[old lion]

You can still tech this, right? Not a true combo? 231 (63 + 168) damage from melee is fun.

Seems like on health you can fit in another first-attack melee

[dawn bobcat]

I usually do Air melee, punch, air melee, alpha

Cool little short combo

[old lion]

So this sort of thing is a true combo, yes?

[dawn bobcat]

Yeah

[dusty storm]

I WISH I can be this good with melees 😭

[old lion]

so nice with it

[brazen trellis]

Do air melee melee 3x beta

[humble gazelle]

How good is his UA tracksuit for tuning?

[dense urchin]

It's pretty good

[dusty storm]

Holy 14 ko match 😭

[humble gazelle]

What’s a build for his tracksuit look like?

Anyone have a pic of their tuning

[dusty storm]

For me it’s Space hop/ will power

Kota finder is a good replacement or ironfist

[humble gazelle]

What about the other tunings?

Just B attack power?

[dusty storm]

Mix between A and B

[humble gazelle]

Ah ok

[dusty storm]

I am confused

Did they fix the alpha bug in season 11

Just for it to return in s12?

wtf

[foggy sentinel]

No his alphas fine rn

Ig his only bug is that the slam will just send them into the ground and they’ll keep falling but that rarely ever happens

[dusty storm]

From what I see

It ALWAYS happen to if they’re inside of storm

[foggy sentinel]

Huh weird

[hollow tulip]

It is happening more again

It was fixed

But it’s been happening more often it’s weird

[stone quartz]

there's another one where u grab someone with alpha, it hits once and the 2nd hit doesn't happen

it mostly happens when a character like Tech Toga uses her dash that also grabs you, at the same time you do the alpha

which is rare, but still it can break ur combo pretty hard and cost you your life

[foggy sentinel]

yeah where they get stuck in the gound for a bit

[stone quartz]

no I mean, they get stuck on your first hit of the alpha

if I manage to record it, I'll send it here

[dusty storm]

To me weirdly enough it’s always a someone in storm

[sullen sedge]

whats the best outfit he has

[hollow tulip]

Gym

[dense glade]

I can’t help but to feel like shinso is not the best for this new meta 🥲

[hollow tulip]

Tamkai does a lot of the same with more variation tbh

[dense glade]

yeah i was sad but i had to make the switch

[hollow tulip]

He’s still great for dealing with red kendo’s

[hollow tulip]

lol another day more n more shinso hate

[dusty storm]

It’s funny how there’s way more but it’s always him

[peak nacelle]

monoma is hated way more

[peak nacelle]

WE love the hated duo

[fallow venture]

If some if this is debatable to you, please let me know, but approach it respectfully

Hitoshi Shinso [Strike]

Quirk Skill A: Binding Cloth: Crushing Strike

• Adjusted knockdown value
• Increased animation speed
• Decreased damage of the 2nd consecutive blow at all levels

Quirk Skill B: Binding Cloth: Sky Rend

• Decreased damage of AOE variation of move at all levels
• Quirk Skill will no longer send player in the air unless the move is aimed at a wall
• Opponents hit by Quirk Skill will be sent into hard knockdown

Quirk Skill Y: Brainwashing

• Opponent effected by the brainwashed state no longer remain in the state if knocked back

[dense cobalt]

Nerf ❌
Gutt✅

[hollow tulip]

Please stop

[peak nacelle]

your just tryna gut every character

you said the same with monoma some were okay but now you just wanna make shinso and monoma bad

[foggy sentinel]

Tbh I am a fan of the alpha damage nerf though

Rn it does a little over 100 and it begins combos imo it should be about 80 (40 hit 40 slam) and then it scales with distance (from 40 hit to something like 70 slam or something like it is now)

However the rest would kill him

He needs the movement and it’s a status effect that makes it easier to knock down why have you get rid of it after knocking down

I also think they should add a limit sort of system to him where all his knockdowns are the same however some things won’t work (for example alpha alpha won’t work it’d just do the full first alpha then the second would only connect and knock them back farther along with beta into alpha will only have the alpha hit but not slam so that he keeps his beta beta combos)

Kinda like how asschaco beta stops hitting but the opponent isnt hard knocked they just reached a limit of hits

[peak nacelle]

oh like aizawas alpha but instead of giving the grab effect it just hard knocks

[stone quartz]

gonna happen the same as Twice, no one gonna play him anymore because it's gonna be unplayable

Shinso needs movement, he can barely escape any atacks with how slow his beta is rn
The only thing saving him rn is his damage and the fact u suggest to nerf the only thing keeping him from unplayable is wild

[fallow venture]

Okay

So if Shinso can swing without cling onto anything

Let's give that same property to Froppy. She has 3 alphas that work like Shinso's.

It's only fair yeah?

[old lion]

I get why it feels scuffed ‘cause the moves look alike, but Shinso legit needs that swing to not be a sitting duck with his beta speed. Froppy’s kit already has mobility baked in. If we straight copy Shinso’s property, she ends up way overtuned and loses what makes her playstyle different. To have that conversdation, a strong equivalnce would be talking about wehther she actually needs a buff somewhere else in part of her kit that isn't baked into her identity as a rapid instead of cloning this from Shinso.

I appreciate you willing to have a discussion around balance tho. I see you

[foggy sentinel]

I mean he does also have his combos

[stone quartz]

ye gl with the combos when u can't stand for 2 secs

u forget he needs to stand in place to use his abilities

which is already a big disadvantage

[foggy sentinel]

And he still performs combos with all that down time

[stone quartz]

when a enemy teammate is not focusing him ye

but unfortunately for u, this is a team game

[foggy sentinel]

Nerfing shinsos damage won’t do anything crazy

[foggy sentinel]

Ik

And they still work fine

[stone quartz]

nerfing the damage SLIGHTLY, I'm ok with it, but whatever those guys said about reducing 40 of damage or making his combos not work anymore is just killing the character

[foggy sentinel]

Imo alpha should do about 80-85 and beta should do 140

[stone quartz]

to lower his damage that much he needs something in return

and the only fair choice would be more movement

[foggy sentinel]

He doesn’t

[stone quartz]

which I doubt they'll give him

[foggy sentinel]

Why would he need stuff in return for a healthy change

[stone quartz]

lol "healthy"

look at the "healthy" change on twice

killed the character

[foggy sentinel]

And even then hes really good at diving in and then dipping out

[foggy sentinel]

This isn’t taking away any combos

This is a simple damage nerf

How are they at all anywhere close on the scale

[stone quartz]

still too big of a number, u expect a shinso to compete with a ASSAULT (which isn't supposed to be based around damage) Endeavour with that low damage?

[foggy sentinel]

Yes

[stone quartz]

u need to look at other strikers and other high damage character

[foggy sentinel]

But you also need to keep in mind assault endeavor is also in desperate need of nerfs

[stone quartz]

he can't compete with them with that low damage

[foggy sentinel]

Those of which still have inflated numbers

[foggy sentinel]

But he can

[stone quartz]

he can't

u r taking too long to type Imma just leave

I don't wanna read a bibble

[foggy sentinel]

He still has a status effect the ball of death an alpha that stuns you pierces armour and begins combos and a special action that keeps enemies out of a fight for iirc 7 seconds and drops their two best items they have while having really good mobility for a strike

I’m just explaining why you’re wrong if you don’t wanna see why thats on you

[stone quartz]

u r just saying the same thing over and over lol

that's not saying why I'm wrong

[foggy sentinel]

So you did read huh

[stone quartz]

literally ANY other strikers besides shiggy has better mobility than shinso

[foggy sentinel]

Why exactly would that make him weak

[foggy sentinel]

Mic endeavor red deku

All worse

[stone quartz]

red deku has insane mobility, u r probably just bad w him dude

endeavor has amazing mobility too, idk what u r talking about

mic I accept has prob worse

[foggy sentinel]

Vertically ig but shinso just does it better

Endeavor is hawks sa but much worse

[stone quartz]

horizontally too

[foggy sentinel]

Especially since it’s so slow

[foggy sentinel]

???

We are not playing the same game

[stone quartz]

endeavour not having better horizontal mobility?

we definitely are not

[foggy sentinel]

Because he doesn’t

[stone quartz]

have u ever used his special action once? xd

[foggy sentinel]

Yes and Ive fought people that used it

It’s not good

It’s just some mid mobility

[stone quartz]

justbcs is not a good ability doesn't mean he has less horizontal mobility

[foggy sentinel]

He has less horizontal mobility because shinso has more

And it’s faster

[stone quartz]

whatever dude, I'm not gonna keep up, u r just stubborn

[foggy sentinel]

And you’re just wrong

[stone quartz]

good for u bud

[lavish fulcrum]

level order?

[stone quartz]

depends on your preference, I like to go for Gamma4 -> Alpha9 -> Beta9 -> Gamma9

having a second gamma helps me pretty often, and the reason to go alpha max next is to have more alphas to work with

[lavish fulcrum]

how many alphas do u get at lvl 4 and 9

[stone quartz]

lvl1 u get 3, lvl4 u get 4, lvl9 u get 5

[foggy sentinel]

I go b9 g4 a9 g9

[old lion]

B9 >> G4 >> A9 >> G9

Sometimes I get an early A4 if my team has good tempo and is picking good fights

[elder stone]

i dont understand the shinso spacehop propaganda when space hop practially comes with the chracter

[foggy sentinel]

It lets you keep all three betas

[elder stone]

i guess but i feel like it jumps up so slow you are practially a sitting target (at least as a pc player with crossplay off)

and whats even the point in having it

like what does it help with

shinsos alpha goes far enough to catch most of the chratcers betas when they are trying to go away if you jump first

im guessing its just controller players not being able to flick very well becasue of how strong the aim assit is (no shade)

[foggy sentinel]

No pc players use it too

It’s to catch wake ups with a 160 damage attack easier rather than about 110

[elder stone]

wdym

space hop makes my beta stronger?

[foggy sentinel]

People shoot themselves up with their beta and then use it down to catch people easier

[foggy sentinel]

No it just works very well with it

It also gives him the high ground to spam alphas and be annoying ig

[elder stone]

i mean i just alpha gamma beta people on wakeup

[foggy sentinel]

Without using a beta to shoot yourself up

[foggy sentinel]

And that’s commital while using more resources

[elder stone]

i feel like beta recharges so fast it doesnt even matter

[foggy sentinel]

You could just jump and beta and then get free wake ups with space hop rather than doing all that

Or space hop and alpha aswell

[foggy sentinel]

It does though

If you start charging it midair you’ll have one left as it won’t keep charge fast enough when you use it again

[elder stone]

so on wakeups you dont try and alpha people you just go straight beta?

[foggy sentinel]

I do

I’m explaining why others would want to use space hop and why it’s so effective on shinso

[elder stone]

ahhhh

i guess it makes sense i just feel like theres better things to have over it

i always thought it was for people who couldnt hit thier shots

[foggy sentinel]

Also you can still capitalize off beta with an alpha or if you can a set up into a second beta or just a second beta raw

[foggy sentinel]

No it’s just something that works well with him

[elder stone]

thats what ive been running for the longest time

ive switched out revenge and sisterly for a bit

sisterly is mid now though

[foggy sentinel]

Willpower is weird so I run kota finder rn and I’ve been using embrittlement

[elder stone]

i LOVE will power

[foggy sentinel]

Currently I’m just using a different build because I just wanna be faster

[foggy sentinel]

I do to but it’s too buggy for me to feel safe running it rn

[elder stone]

really?

i havent had any issues

whats wrong with it?

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah the timer doesn’t show up and for some reason people have been getting killed with it active more than usual

Like they get the knock down but it just doesn’t work and they die

[elder stone]

heres my stats so i at least have a little credibility

[elder stone]

hmmm

i havent experienced anything like that

[foggy sentinel]

I have

It’s been happening way too often for me

[elder stone]

dang hate to hear it

[foggy sentinel]

So I just dropped it for a bit

[elder stone]

i see

shinso def the most goo goo gaga baby chracter if you have touched any other fps so i might just be reading too much into it

but the amount of glaze ive seen for spacehop is crazy

when all the gameplay i see it just looks ok

[foggy sentinel]

It’s glazed for good reason

It’s just a tune that works well with shinso

[elder stone]

what outfit you use for it

[foggy sentinel]

I don’t have it

[elder stone]

ahhhh

[foggy sentinel]

If I did I would try it with the ua tracksuit

[lavish fulcrum]

thx

[dense cobalt]

I'd prefer space hop

[dusty storm]

Random thought : nerf alpha damage but make his alpha do more damage the higher the target was

Yes this is targeted at monoma and tamaki at late game

[dusty storm]

Nice nerfs

[dense cobalt]

It's just a 1 sec beta nerf
Nth much