Kurogiri

[eager umbra]

Therefore stopping the giri from just going so fast you can’t hit him

you can get that from alphas alone bro

[robust cairn]

Yes but it also stops the giri from hitting you with a gamma and tping you when you’re on the floor

That’s how you get jumped

[eager umbra]

Like I said before I don’t see the issue with the Strat I do because 60% of the people I TP make it back

[robust cairn]

200 dmg is ridiculous ☠️☠️☠️☠️ id hit them with two betas and then they’d immediately kick my aaah

[eager umbra]

You do a 400 damage combo and then have most of your gamma left to kill them afterwords

Looking at it objectively between our strats, you should have a much higher success/kill rate

[robust cairn]

People are used to having high damaging combos done to them

But no one likes being thrown into the storm and losing most of their hp coming back

Gamma pulling as kurogiri is way more toxic than just a combo

[eager umbra]

I assure you they would rather be thrown into the storm than be given guaranteed death

Which is what your combo is

[robust cairn]

Because guess what 400 dmg isn’t even on the high end of combo dmg potential

[eager umbra]

at least I know I would

[robust cairn]

You know what’s guaranteed death?

Getting gamma pulled into a party

Which is exactly what any scrims kurogiri would do

Any character that does 400 + dmg is going to pretty much guarantee your death cause they’ll hunt you from then on…

[eager umbra]

If it’s so good why didn’t Kaje use it in the tournaments he’s been in?

[robust cairn]

CAUSE HES A SCARED LITTLE KITTY

[eager umbra]

And like I said it’s not even common enough to be an issue rn

[robust cairn]

HE SAID 50 TIMES LAST TOURNEY “but leli I don’t wanna be toxic”

☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

ASK HIM

[eager umbra]

while his opponents are sisterly hawks and sisterly Iida

[robust cairn]

BRO WAS HAVING A MORAL CRISIS DURING OUR TOURNEY

[robust cairn]

YEA WELL I TRIED TO TELL HIM 🤷

[eager umbra]

I can see the issue but honestly a lot of characters have moves to break strike shoto’s walls or Momo’s barricades easily

[robust cairn]

Mic isn’t common and he’s an issue

[eager umbra]

I did try the strategy with a friend but they broke out most of the time

only did it on like 4 people

[robust cairn]

While they’re being shot by 3people?

[eager umbra]

cementoss can just alpha spam
mt lady has her beta
Tech Shoto and Dabi can just spam their stuff
rapid allmight gamma
Strike kendo gamma

just a handful of examples

Red Deku gamma, red Bakugo gamma or beta, strike Shoto beta, etc

a lot of characters in this game you do not want to be in a room with tbh

[robust cairn]

You’re forgetting this is a 3v1, kurogiri can pull you back even if you escape, and there’s two other people for you to fight ☠️ like great you have aoe they probably do too

[eager umbra]

Most important part is when you get pulled you get iframes from being knocked immediately

so you’re not just pulled and stunned for free alphas to kill you

[robust cairn]

Just enough time to say I’m dead

[eager umbra]

And I think another overlooked thing is how quickly the storm closes in which dictates how fast your team can get to you

Depends on the map ofc since the most recent one is very big but still

[toxic hazel]

i think 2 betas should knockdown

i think beta should do less damage

but i also think portals should do the beta damage no matter how an enemy ends up in one

i think if you beta, when you release it and put your beta down, it should have a bit of a lock on / clip towards an ally/enemy that's really close to where the portal will place

and i might even say if the portals do damage all the time, that using a second portal doesn't close the 1st, which provides more counterplay to the storm throwing

conceptually i think kurogiri should be about teleporting allies and enemies, and shouldn't be about a big combo

bro with 2 global rezzes and a flying spycam should not be a scrapper

[eager umbra]

w

Not so w

w

not w

Not w

Betas only do like 90 something damage

characters alphas are basically that

The damage is fine

[toxic hazel]

def think he should damage less and portal more

[eager umbra]

Especially if you’re nerfing the knockdown

[eager umbra]

Portalling matters less when storm closes in

You’ll just be making another day 1 hawks or monoma with the mobility

Though I do still think his beta cooldown should go down by 1 or 2 seconds

[toxic hazel]

just by having more than 1 portal open?

[eager umbra]

especially if knockdown value is highered

[toxic hazel]

i don't think he needs a lower CD, i just think he should be more focused on teleportation instead of damage

[robust cairn]

Portaling is what makes people hate kurogiri

When people say they hate kurogiri it’s because he stole them from across the map 💀

[toxic hazel]

but i think it's more counterplay if you allow portals to not close after using a second, so someone thrown across the map can atleast attempt to go back

[eager umbra]

You give him more knockdown, less damage and allow for his portals to stay open when enemies close them which is a nerf in more ways then a buff

That’s not giving him more reasons to portal

That’s giving him more reasons to hide

You just nerfed him across the board while doing nothing to buff him

oh yeah but if they enter his portals they get like 80 damage

😱

[toxic hazel]

definitely, but i think it makes more sense to give more counterplay to portaling than to just make him more like everyone else

[robust cairn]

These gotta be the worse changes I’ve ever heard

I’d rather buff monoma

[toxic hazel]

😭

[robust cairn]

If they ever made my beta knockdown after 2 I’m switching to monoma

I’ll kill all the kurogiris myself

[toxic hazel]

monoma already top 1

[robust cairn]

Yea exactly ☠️

[eager umbra]

I will consider a knockdown at 3 betas if they make alpha knockdown higher

😊

[robust cairn]

Turn to kurogiri into a scaredy cat and I’ll just play an actually offensive character

[toxic hazel]

lowkey this character is cracked bro

not saying it's a perfect set of changes but i think the idea is a better direction for kuro

[eager umbra]

Disagree

you burnt the kitchen down

[toxic hazel]

i respect it

[eager umbra]

less dmg so more portaling but no cooldown reduction for the portals

[robust cairn]

Let’s hit kurogiri with the mirio changes: no more combos

Thanks guys

[eager umbra]

what am I supposed to do with just portaling bro

do loops in front of people like the court jester

[toxic hazel]

LOL

[robust cairn]

Oh and his portals don’t close 😵‍💫

[eager umbra]

Every support needs damage

Even if they are a support

[toxic hazel]

bro still has damage for sure

[robust cairn]

Compress: Tod

Kurogiri: MMMMM 200 dmg best I can do

What are we Mirio?

[toxic hazel]

I just think his primary fight pattern should be based around betaing someone in and then sending them away

[robust cairn]

That is so boring I want to throw up just thinking about it

What is this tennis?

Shoo

[toxic hazel]

i respect if you disagree

[eager umbra]

A pure support role does not work in this game I think

Especially since I play solo queue

Where my teammates already don’t use my portals

[toxic hazel]

I wonder if it might be possible

[eager umbra]

Even if I ping them 20 times

[toxic hazel]

oh yeah portals should also create a - - - - - > on the ground for teamates t osee

[robust cairn]

Kurogiri is literally quoted as the only true support ☠️

[toxic hazel]

and be visible for teamates trhough walls

the only true support who always drops a 400 bomb on someones head 😭

this character is broken and kept in check only by every move being a focus blast

[robust cairn]

Bro is single target and uses his movement as damage

Let’s not act like the 400 dmg comes free

[eager umbra]

“oh yeah kurogiri portals are so cool and powerful they should focus around him doing that more and just transporting teammates”

the teammates:

[robust cairn]

Yea I think you don’t get how much more powerful gamma pulling is compared to beta pulling bc you’re solo q

You haven’t triple stacked pulled people into your team

[eager umbra]

I get how powerful it could be but over half the cast you do not want to be in a room with

even if it’s a 1v3

and stuff breaks easily

And the storm closes in fast too

[robust cairn]

It doesn’t matter who you pull in no one in their right mind wants to 3v1

[fluid escarp]

uh i dont feel like reading the context, but if it was the first tourney its cause i was newer. watst he tldr wat didnt i do lol

also i was generally scared first tourney

[eager umbra]

They don’t need to kill then they just need to escape

[robust cairn]

2nd tourney you were in vc crying that pulling someone with your gamma was too toxic and you wouldn’t do it

[fluid escarp]

no

lol

[robust cairn]

Escape? From a kurogiri? You just said it was impossible

[robust cairn]

Yes ☠️ I promise you

[eager umbra]

if you’re using a gamma to pull someone in from the other side of the map I’m gonna assume your gamma is pretty much gone at this point

and it’s also much harder to hit a normal beta on someone than it is a gamma beta

[fluid escarp]

literally watch the vod lol. i stole people wth afo and present mic

[robust cairn]

Still have three betas just pull them back

[eager umbra]

That’s not as guaranteed as the gamma beta is

since they only lost like 130 gp

[robust cairn]

Kaje that was in the finals but the entire time before that you were saying it’s too toxic

[fluid escarp]

saying its toxic yeah, i still did it.

[robust cairn]

You can shoot the gamma it’s not guaranteed. Plus in this scenario you have two teammates with mobility who can hunt or stagger your enemy too

[fluid escarp]

as much as i could fr lol. its just not as good as i thought

ur confusing timelines and quotes

better come correct next time u "promis me" lol

[robust cairn]

Not till the finals kaje come on I was there. Also we’re talking about how to nerf kurogiri but they want beta to knock down after two hits and I am flabbergasted

[robust cairn]

I was there kaje in your vc ☠️

[eager umbra]

Guaranteed as you’re not guaranteed to hit them

In a perfect world where Kurogiri wasn’t bugged

[fluid escarp]

idk wat u on about. ur wrong all ima say lol. i stole ppl idk what more proof i need than that.

ur talking about the first tournament anywho..? the one were we were on a team. and i literally still try to steal people there too! lol

[eager umbra]

That would still be true

[eager umbra]

I mean I will say a lot of characters would be screwed but a lot of characters would have a good chance

[robust cairn]

Kaje somehow forgetting I had to convince him to steal people and then the other person saying beta should knock after two hits

Good grief

[eager umbra]

I did say I would be willing to concede to 3 hits if beta alpha knocked

🙂

[fluid escarp]

oh. i thought u were saying i didnt try to steal people. And how u replied to somehow cool made it seem like i didnt (i think. again didnt read it)
yea i wasnt going to. i coudla got convinced.

[robust cairn]

I said you did in the finals

Cause I convinced you

Cause you realized we would lose even worse

[fluid escarp]

i didnt do it prelims?

[robust cairn]

Not really no

[fluid escarp]

not really doesnt mean no lol

[robust cairn]

You just went on and on about it being toxic

Plus our prelims were easy

You didn’t really have to

[fluid escarp]

map was bad 2

none the less, wtf is the conext

[robust cairn]

But once finals came you were like a shi guess I gotta start

Look doesn’t really matter

You know how strong gamma pulling into a team is

[fluid escarp]

ye

thats obvious

[robust cairn]

@fluid escarp very simply what’s worse getting 4 beta combo or getting pulled into a team

[eager umbra]

Is that really how you’re going to justify that combo

[fluid escarp]

depends

[eager umbra]

😭

death vs super death

[fluid escarp]

xd

ig 4 beta combo since i didnt get pulled outa knowhere. theres a line of sight at least my allies can get to gamma worse

[robust cairn]

400 dmg is not super death. If you want super death go get combod by a blue ochako

[eager umbra]

the gamma beta that you still have after is part of the death

[robust cairn]

I said worse not better kaje

[eager umbra]

and also by super death I meant the gamma kidnap

getting 1v3ed kidnapped is worse than your combo obvs

doesn’t mean the combo still ain’t super deadly

[robust cairn]

Thank you so that’s way more toxic than my combo

[eager umbra]

bro they’re both bad but yeah

[robust cairn]

Plus you gotta realize how once you mega die in the 3v1 your teammates have to go across the map to get your token

[eager umbra]

I think a solution for me would allow the gamma to go up as high and down as it wants but not allow it to traverse a certain width around kurogiri

[fluid escarp]

idk bout way worse tbh.

[eager umbra]

so you can keep the tp but not teleport someone from across the map

[robust cairn]

Like the chain chomp from Mario 😭?

[eager umbra]

but rn I don’t really care all that much personally cause I have basically never seen it happen to me or anyone else

[eager umbra]

I guess

I still want the gamma beta to tp after all

And gamma betaing someone in final circle isn’t all that powerful as tping someone from across the map

[hazy ridge]

The only time that gamma length matters is so early into the game that the circles haven't closed in any (which makes him limited by the duration of the gamma itself), and when you don't see him anyway so him teleporting from one end to another probably isn't making a big difference regardless

Because the second you see a kurogiri who is very evidently in his gamma form, you basically get a free combo set-up

And even if he does teleport away after you hit him, you still make him use a drink or you put him in risk of teleporting next to another enemy and dooming him that way

[eager umbra]

well im unshadowbanned now

[naive granite]

Does gamma power work on kuro?

[toxic hazel]

i'm not 100% but i think the gamma distance was partly to stop the whole "fall into your beta while using gamma" combo where you send someone a mile into the storm

[brazen linden]

The last time I asked it didn’t

But they fixed multiple damage passives beyond just the grabs so it probably does now

However HP attack power will help you out no matter what if the answer is no or yes

[eager umbra]

yellow deku really shreds that quickly huh

at least he got pieced up like i did not even 3 seconds later

[toxic hazel]

bro dying on the wakeup insta portal feels so terrible LOL

[naive granite]

What even happened 😭

[robust cairn]

It happens to me so often

It’s the worse feeling ever

[dawn steeple]

👀 any tips for Kurogiri, possibly a budget build? Combos etc

[eager umbra]

watch itzkaje video

[dawn steeple]

Who 💔

[eager umbra]

You’re not off to a good start

https://youtu.be/79XVSttaPls?si=-O21Mm4ND2ioQQNP

that

[dawn steeple]

Thank you I’m sorry 💔💔💔

[eager umbra]

also it might be touched upon in the guide I forget but here is a good example of what to do when you get cornered/attacked while trying to rez your teammate

[toxic hazel]

GOTTA be a monitor issue bro there's just no way LMAO

headcannoned bro has a mid gaming chair and poor monitor

[silent nebula]

"No escape"

[robust cairn]

Factual head cannon

[eager umbra]

still my favourite thing to do as kurogiri

also what is with these portals not being able to enter them while looking up recently

[eager umbra]

When it happened your gamma was at 0%?

had that happen to me too

[ripe nova]

Nah you should use ur gamma at the same time when u fall

[eager umbra]

Not what happened here

cause he should’ve been floating for all intents and purposes

it’s similar but if you activate it around the last 1-5% you can get this bug

and the only way to get back to your normal view is waiting for gamma to come back or plus chaos

[ripe nova]

Yeah i though he taked the warp

But i mean when it happen to me it's like that

[robust cairn]

Yep so I couldn’t turn it off

[wide fractal]

Found a new bug

Gamma and beta portals can take more than usual percentage

New in quotation marks by the way

But when it sends out the double beta, it also takes extra and if it isn’t on HP it just takes the extra percent for no benefit whatsoever

[long pelican]

its always been that way

[eager umbra]

I’m only using beta at last 40% or less anyway so doesn’t bother me

[eager umbra]

@fluid escarp oh yeah I forgot to clip but

was using kurogiri gamma today and at ground level I used an alpha and it slid across the floor all the way to the other side of the wall, was in the giant pool outside the school in the bottom left

related to your invisible beta sliding tech I think

also retired?

[fluid escarp]

basically. only playing cuz i might play in tourney.
dang, maybe lag? idk wtf that would be.
and idk if related cuz they code the inviable beta tech only on the gamma since it shoots 2 portals in a way. alpha doesnt ever hit someone and keep going so idk. seems cool wish u cliped!

[eager umbra]

i mean wasnt a bad thing necessarily

I was just confused

assuming if it actually hit someone it would stick on them

[placid slate]

did anyone build this fixer PU skin?

and can tell the dmg numbers maybe

[eager umbra]

have that one yeah

though putting mirio normal tuning for it is questionable

I mean its alright but you can really only get gp/hp at the top, rapid bakugo gamma, tech denki alpha, any strike beta+ and then either melee or alpha dmg buff

kinda split all over the case and doesn't really help you that much imo

personally I prefer my build with reinforced revive and willpower but all depends on personal preference and your playstyle

willpower has saved me too many times to count so never taking it off my giri

@placid slate

I can still get you the dmg numbers tomorrow if you want them but will probably only improve by like 10 dmg

[fluid escarp]

yea its 10 at least. wana say the ticks increased by like 1 or 2 max. is it 4 hits? i forget. ill look around

[fluid escarp]

cant find, but its good enough to use if u use alphas, or gamma alphas (i dont use that ever)
regular alphas better since u get like 5 dmg upfront . also good if u use alpha combos which i regularly do

oh wait ur missing denki, that might not cut it. cool will test

[fluid escarp]

is it possible to die then gamma tp? i used it like twice ever and not on kuro. idk how i feel bout it tbh

like is that gona save me vs a premade stack idk

then again, u do get like 3 more seconds to live at least, long enuf for beta cooldown prolly most of the time

if it wasnt ran with villian green id try fr.

finally accidenly found the consisten way to do this and know what causes it

only real use is juking but its so fast that meh,
but maybe a niche use to do it for potting
or long ports since thats the hardest thing to do with a beta in the air

[eager umbra]

I think it just cancels it

[eager umbra]

it has for me

as soon as you beta it only takes you like less than half a second for you to be in it

There’s a very small window you can be shot in

if you got like 2-3 ranged on you maybe not but maybe you shouldn’t have been in that position in the first place ya’know

but it’s possible

[eager umbra]

alpha dmg from tuning affects gamma alpha too?

[fluid escarp]

It should. Well maybe not anymore since they might be different since dmg.
I guess ull test it

[eager umbra]

@fluid escarp @placid slate alpha atk does not improve the gamma alpha

numbers were this

with tuning:
alpha: 72 - 138
gamma 27 - 135

without tuning
alpha: 65 - 125

first number is the first tick of dmg and the second number is if all the ticks hit

[placid slate]

yea i knew that. tested before

did you test beta dmg?

only beta

back then dojo said you cant push beta dmg on kuro

but now it says it works

but i think you can only push dmg with hp/gp + dmg

[eager umbra]

100 to 112 with tuning

[placid slate]

mhmm

not worth

special tunings should be on focus

[eager umbra]

with this build

gp shouldn't increase it since I'd have to give up one of the beta spots anyway

[placid slate]

yea

[eager umbra]

yeah that's why I don't use it

and what giri needs is reload not more damage

[placid slate]

did you test tech denki tuning?

for beta

into stun

is it good

[eager umbra]

I think I tried that once but I remember it being meh but I'd have to re-test

[placid slate]

if you tested let me know

im playing twice and assault am tuning so far

[eager umbra]

I mean yeah works how you would expect it too

[fluid escarp]

Mainly ok for the fact beta bugs or sends them through late so you won't miss some dmg.
If it didnt bug then nah.

Only other upside is stunning anyone close but the often the people close are super armor move.
The MAJOR upside is wake ups especially they gutted his melee tracking at some point.

Even if it wasn't gutted it's just way easier to get stun off.

[placid slate]

yo guys

can you explain the kuro beta double dmg bugg?

is it a thing

or really rare

[fluid escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/why-do-you-ask-carly-shay-miranda-cosgrove-icarly-curious-gif-22500582

[placid slate]

if its relevant

or not

wanna know if you can do it on purpose or its like ibara alpha bugg

[fluid escarp]

maybe someone else can, i aint and not even sure if its on purpose. i aint tryna deal with that and them not fix it b4 tourney lol

only possible during certain versions of kuro for sure. was not possible before but it got brought back when they chagned him agaaain

[eager umbra]

new giri skin looks kinda ehhh

If it isn’t in the battle pass I ain’t getting it (likely is for a probable rerun)

coulda done way better for a cyberpunk ver of him

I’m just hoping some of his stuff gets fixed in season 12

[robust cairn]

Nope you can’t do it on purpose it’s entirely random

[placid slate]

okay thats good

[placid slate]

i did 2 tuning builds already

i dont think im going for a third 3

unless there is a good one with red and blue slot

[wide fractal]

Hey I accidentally did this while spectating some one V ones is this recreatable?

[robust cairn]

Do what side hoping? Yes

[wide fractal]

While dashing

Aiming in and dashing

[fluid escarp]

Might be related to perfect frame stuff.
Sometimes I can melee once and instantly do a move. I really dont know how to recreate it and ive tried as thats od but yeah, something to do with multiple inputs possibly. And or like the tech where u cancel last melee animation on certain heros

Did it just stay stuck zoomed in?

[wide fractal]

No, you can see in the clip that zoom out and try to re-create it

[fluid escarp]

I meant did u dash while holding zoom hole time. Its a bug idk culda been like that

[eager umbra]

Praying for kurogiri fixes of any kind 🙏

[fluid escarp]

Praying they keep the gamma mechanic same so I can no steal tech 🙏

[robust cairn]

Praying he doesn’t get even more bugs 🥹

[robust cairn]

@fluid escarp @eager umbra kurogiri got butchered

[ripe nova]

So you can't dammage with the bêta of the gamma now?

[robust cairn]

You can

But it has a 4 second activation time

So it’s near impossible to hit

[ripe nova]

Wtf

[robust cairn]

You already had to tell where they’re going to be

But now you have to tell where they’re going to be way in advance

So for example b b b y b no longer works

Gamma takes so long to beta that they can slip out

[ripe nova]

I hope it's not that annoying

[pastel mango]

How far do you live from your server region? It's like 0.3 seconds on my machine.
It might be a latency-dependent thing, like how Strike Dabi's beta is broken for players whose latency is too high.

[robust cairn]

this never happened in the past

but have you logged on @pastel mango ? ur a kuro main youll defo feel it

[pastel mango]

Did you not read my post?

It's like 0.3 seconds on my machine
I'm saying this while sitting in Training Mode with Kurogiri as we speak.

[eager umbra]

I’ll need to test it myself cause logically it shouldn’t change anything

Since a tap beta is a tap beta and should not be damaging yeah so that sounds fine

The fact this is his only bug fix though is very disappointing

[robust cairn]

it feels way off what it used to be

[pastel mango]

The issue is the held beta now takes slightly longer to come out.

[robust cairn]

I dont feel that but my gamma feels terrible

[pastel mango]

This is what the delay is like on my machine. Noticeable, but not awful.

[eager umbra]

I see what you mean now after testing it

but doesnt seem too bad

but likely a bug though

[robust cairn]

A bug that will never be fixed

[placid slate]

i didnt get the dmg with gamma beta thing

what excatly was bugged

and the delay feels awful to me

for close fights

it feels to much delayed

but i didnt test in real games so i cant tell if its that bad or not

[robust cairn]

The delay is what feels bugged

I’m getting crazy delay

Especially after I use one beta from my gamma the next one just won’t show up

Oof

[placid slate]

oh no

annoying

[robust cairn]

Hopefully when I come back from work later tonight it feels better

[ripe nova]

You can still do the combo but when u want to catch someone it's so annoying

[pastel mango]

From the sound of the patch note, apparently sometimes doing a short-press beta from the gamma (which is not supposed to deal damage) was dealing damage.

[eager umbra]

I did not even know that was a bug

never saw someone report that

also I wanna test that new tamaki tuning on kurogiri

since I actually regularly run around with tech cards for emergencies

ranked matches still going good so far like usual

[placid slate]

we lucky his alpha got buffed

back then

i feel like thats the reason he is still very good

even if they touch his beta

and he wouldnt be able to do beta combo

he would be still viable cause alpha feels so strong

[eager umbra]

if the character is someone who can fly I disagree

alpha feels very weak then

or someone who can move fast like iida

otherwise yeah its good

[placid slate]

yea

i do hit sometimes

on flying enemies

otherwise i do beta into alpha

[eager umbra]

you can hit but it's not gonna even linger for a sec

[placid slate]

yea

but thats why buff was good

the first hit does solid dmg

[eager umbra]

ya

[placid slate]

i do 70 dmg

before like 50

[placid slate]

btw you roll for new mirio?

i know you left him back then after alpha combo nerf xd

switched to aizawa

then to kuro

i think

[eager umbra]

thats crazy bro

I cant believe u remember my mains lol

I try to do more aizawa nowadays but I think I kinda did most of everything with him

mirio I've seen his skillset and ehh probably not

I can already see his alpha getting many mirio players killed in final circle lol

by storm

beta should still be as dodgeable as the old one tho might have to recheck, counter is cool tho

always wanted to make a mirio build with willpower and perception but never had time for it

[placid slate]

haha of course

we had some discussions back then

sometimes more heated

xd

i still play mirio sometimes

the new special action is really good tho

you can jump around

freely

as long as you got mates close to you

i dont think new mirio is "op". alpha is the strongest quirk i think

but it looks really awkward to use

[eager umbra]

dont remember actually haha

[placid slate]

you said he was garbo after the nerf. and i said something like "he is still good tho.."

[eager umbra]

ahh I think I remember that

I mean he went from like 400 damage combos to his max output being now like what

250

if you're doing the charged alpha into gamma

i didnt like an auto combo being his main source of damage

felt way less skillful

[fluid escarp]

F them for refusing to make a revenge cem build. Green always paired with some bs or its villan green. Like y. Y y y y y y y

Same on cem like why must u make Green tuning go with nothing remotely good for the chatacterrrrrhfifbhrirj4orjt

How many fn green red do we need?? Hu?!? Fhtit

NO RED BASIC SLOTS EITHER LIKE they hoooooldin

[eager umbra]

red with green is pretty good

been there the whole time

[fluid escarp]

No. If I could kota finder and hero green sure. Villain green is just 1 option forever since no more green villans will be a thing 99%
Also its just not that good. No synergy. F green red even if it was kota finder/hero gren fr idc let me not be a full support only like its just not it

[placid slate]

yea crazy change

[eager umbra]

why would you want hero green

overhaul tuning is supr good

also on a side note I've noticed my second gamma beta sometimes just doesnt fire

[fluid escarp]

Revenge cementoss mainly
or ibara when im feeln it.

[fluid escarp]

Rip hopefully fixed by the time I come back
How can they f up that badly lol

[swift ether]

guys i just rolled kurogiri any tips

[fluid escarp]

Discord search any file i posted in this channel and read near then. Others talk about info near when I post things so good way to skip fluff.
look up kurogiri meta defining guide. Outdated but only thing out there and still real good. I'll make another one after tourney.

[robust cairn]

Yepppp their bug fix created another bug

I hate these devs man

[zinc fox]

i feel like my beta hits take even more luck to bring enemies in now

immediately apparent at the start of season

[eager umbra]

you didnt play him much last season then

it's been apparent since like the middle of last season

rapid allmight update iirc

anyway cyberpunk fancy giri might be good for me

revenge tech and reinforced revive

[toxic hazel]

this gamma beta is SO TERRIBLE bro holy

[eager umbra]

another pain the kurogirians must push through together

💪

[zinc fox]

alot

guess im the only one who feels this way

[robust anchor]

Honestly I agree with you both. Last season was bad for teleporting. But this season it feels even worse 😭

[eager umbra]

@robust cairn btw idk if you realised but that tamaki that plus ultraed twice on you in the hacker match was me

good to know those guys were cheating tho cause wouldnt have known otherwise lol

apparently the tamaki had aimbot too

also im not sure if going for the kuro gamma when a kuro is gamma'ing in your face is the right thing to do cause they can still hit a gamma on you before they hit it usually

kind of a lose lose situation most of the time

[eager umbra]

do be like that sometimes

[robust cairn]

Yes lol I knew

But also I couldn’t tell if I was fighting your or not cause there were so many tamakis everywhere

[terse phoenix]

[robust cairn]

I discovered another kurogiri bug

Great

You can go through your gamma portal and then it won’t let you go back through it

Lmaoo

[eager umbra]

Can’t believe they have this guy in the gacha

They should have a whole PTB branch of the game just for him

He is so buggy it’s embarrassing

It’s been 3 seasons now

[robust cairn]

@eager umbra https://www.twitch.tv/lekurogiri/clip/ShinySparklyBasenjiAMPTropPunch-c33srijbhpvYupg1

[robust cairn]

Dw the devs care about the kurogiri bugs

[final vector]

that bug fix

did phenominal damage to kurogiri

[fathom wedge]

Any Kurogiri combos?

[eager umbra]

if you want combos you came to the wrong character

[fathom wedge]

[robust cairn]

It made him decent 😭 now his gamma just feels like shi bro

[placid slate]

played kuro once yesterday

felt so clunky

idk why

[robust cairn]

Cause they “bug fixed” him and made him worse

[terse phoenix]

I can honestly agree

I did find a bug but it’s prob been a bug for a while however

On day 1 of the update

I used my gamma near the big box and my gamma was able to just go down under the map

😶

[final vector]

yeah his gamma beta now do no damage

[eager umbra]

no?

You didn't read the patch notes correctly

that's not the issue with his gamma beta

[final vector]

what?

it now summons a portal directly on the gamma location

[eager umbra]

Brother what

It works the way it always has

It still deals damage when you hold beta and yes a portal spawns directly on the gamma location because that’s how portals as a concept work, this has been a thing since his release and works fine

The problem is the enormous end lag, it sometimes now not firing at all and the numerous other bugs that still exist within his kit

[final vector]

?

[final vector]

It used to shoot the portal out instead

like a projectile

like this:
#1331570002091970602 message

[eager umbra]

Brother it still does shoot the portal out

[final vector]

it no longer does that for me

[eager umbra]

I know what a beta projectile looks like because I’ve been playing this character since he released

send a clip of what it looks like for you

[final vector]

after this patch: #1331570002091970602 message

ok

[eager umbra]

And again that patch means you have to hold the beta to damage someone which is what you should’ve been doing anyway

On paper it should’ve changed literally nothing about his gamma but bugs like kurogiri so

[final vector]

oh

i have not

well, thanks for the explanation

[long pelican]

u guys still play kurogiri?

Pft

too many bugs im good

i had my fun when he was the least bit functional

[robust anchor]

Im right there with you. I just cant anymore...

[long pelican]

crazy how the one character that you actually needed time to learn and takes skill to play and figure out then dominate with is also the most buggy

[long pelican]

yeah....

now im just full Ibara

they are making me feel like the resources i spent on his PURs are a waste

[robust anchor]

100% its so annoying. I put alot of time into him. Now I just use his beta as monoma when I feel like it 😂

[long pelican]

his melees function better than his abilities

[robust anchor]

Oh yesss I love kurogiri air melee lol

[long pelican]

juggliing people on air wakeup

and air melee - melee - melee - airmelee still feels satisfying to pull off

honestly might just change the build to be full melee

embrittlement with wallrunner to do some martial arts sht

[robust anchor]

Anything air melee melee combo oriented was satisfying to me lol

[long pelican]

I very much will do it cuz im crazy like that

[fluid escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-9898447

[pastel mango]

It turns out that if Kurogiri spawns a portal on top of Tamaki while Tamaki is charging his gamma, he can warp him without even interrupting the charging.
A friendly Tamaki could fully charge his gamma in a safe place and then be inserted wherever you want instantly by using your own gamma to reposition him. You can even place him up in the air if you want.

[eager umbra]

people really understimate kurogiri cause what is this dude doing

[eager umbra]

interesting

also thought I had that playing but if giri had a good costume with ibara special tuning he'd be peak

could just go around looting boxes to get easy lvl 9 beta and gamma

he only has 2 (one being unreleased) and both have villain tunings on the side

which have red dabi, strike shiggy and yellow shiggy for the tuning options so ya, not great

also the send away strat is still valid and good

I think you would win more by using it lekurogiri

it is extremely fun to send annoying characters like rapid ochaco away to the moon

and then watch them try to heal while you poke at what little gp and/or hp they have left

[ripe nova]

Bruh why ur gamma are so fast

[eager umbra]

I hold them?

also maybe higher fps thing idk

[ripe nova]

Yeah probably, i am playStation

[fluid escarp]

Yeah tellem. Theres for sure times I should be doing it esp vs certain matchups

Mainly vs 3 stacks tbh

[eager umbra]

w encouragement

this strat is why I wish kurogiri had higher knockdown on beta

giri haters happy and I am happy

[fluid escarp]

U know u can just keep knockdown and idk, alpha them? Lol

[eager umbra]

doesn't work like that tho

you need to alpha them twice

along with a beta ofc

[fluid escarp]

Yeah. Lol. That works no?

[eager umbra]

kinda iffy you getting the 2 alphas off

sometimes

[fluid escarp]

It shouldn't be.

True

[eager umbra]

I think you may need to aim at their feet to get maximum damage ticks

but ofc they aren't stunned for the second alpha

so they're free to use whatever

red kiri beta

compress beta

mirio beta

etc

[fluid escarp]

U tested it ? 9/10 times i think u get it unless they got frame 1 move type. Like what u named

Which is way better to keep beta kd and just alpna

[eager umbra]

I tested it but I remember thinking it was not the most true thing ever

I can test again later

[fluid escarp]

I think ur right only people who read thos chat or spread will know the counter. Even then I intentjally be doing things like this to make them waste a move

[terse phoenix]

@robust cairn I’m watching my friend’s screenshare and saw u Q’ed with them rn

😅

[robust cairn]

lol who?

I mean I suck aaah rn

These ace rank lobbies are so annoying lol

Got sweaty mfs 24/7 😔🫵🏻

[terse phoenix]

The people who were named Rean/Isagi

The tamaki had a lot of kills

[robust cairn]

I see

Oh that lobby

[fluid escarp]

Wait u just beta send them just like uve done

[eager umbra]

I find it more consistent to knock them first

mostly because you have no idea if the beta will actually tp them

and even if it does, they might not come out standing still and flop down instead

[fluid escarp]

Ur still mad wanting more knockdown when u can do it with it lol. I think u have enough time to react and send a almost full lvl 7 beta range.

[long pelican]

Okay HOW COME U CAN DO MULTIPLE BETAS AND I CANT???

IN GAMMA I MEAN

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565860804323311638/1160781002537435146/ratshake.gif

[eager umbra]

Beta alpha x2 is not always consistent

they can sometimes escape before the 2nd alpha escapes like I said before

Maybe I should alpha them first then beta but idk

[long pelican]

I meant like being able to beta again at any moment

cuz when i use it once and im still in gamma

[eager umbra]

idk just press gamma beta more than once

[long pelican]

so i have to cancel gamma again to use gammabeta again??

[eager umbra]

no

[long pelican]

unlike before where i can just use beta again without cancelling gamma mode

[eager umbra]

you have to use an alpha after your beta in gamma mode if you can’t fire your gamma beta again

[long pelican]

is it supposed to be like that?

[eager umbra]

Of course not

It’s a bug

[long pelican]

bruh...

another bug

yeah back to melee kurogiri

[eager umbra]

If you’re going to play melee giri then you’re not playing to his strengths

I mean play him however you want of course, you rolled him after all

But don’t be surprised when you aren’t feeling the S tier that tier lists place him at

[long pelican]

oh dont get me wrong ik how strong he is but im here to have fun and not lose because my next beta wants to bug out

but he was functional at launch more than he is nopw

[eager umbra]

If you know the bugs it’s not that big a deal

[long pelican]

oh ik the bugs but is it worth it

knowing that it could screw up ur fight\

entirely cuz of it

especially if its a crucial fight

[fluid escarp]

Enough time to react to if they fall or not on beta. Either way u just do a send beta anyways

[eager umbra]

Just isn’t consistent man idk

I’ll try show tomorrow

[robust cairn]

After this season I need a new main

I can’t do it with kurogiri much longer

He’s just too buggy

[next horizon]

hey i have some question abt kurogiri

1. is he a good character to pick up 2.do i play aggressive with him or do i just hide and wait for my teamates to die and only fight if i have to?

[robust cairn]

No

[next horizon]

no to?

[robust cairn]

The fist question which invalidates the second question

[next horizon]

oh ok thanks

i guess im just gonna stick to shinso

[toxic hazel]

hes really good, and really fun, but he has a few bugs that can be frustrating to deal with for sure

[fluid escarp]

Im thankful fk kuro dude is Hella cheese

No 1 play him plz n ty

[long pelican]

I agree

Its not even a discouraging people to play him its more of

Playing the character will discourage you from playing him

We are just ssaving you the trouble

[eager umbra]

not doing a second beta if I don’t know if it’ll tp

yeah I can do a second beta when I see it TP but then I need to shorten my beta to a point that the Strat is useless

[balmy tendon]

I just got black mist, in what order should I upgrade his abilities ? And any tip on what to do during a game ?

[next horizon]

beta gamma alpha

[balmy tendon]

beta 9 gamma 9 and alpha 9?

[next horizon]

get beta to 7 first for the 3 beta

then if you're gonna be doing the bet gamma loop you wanna get gamma max

[balmy tendon]

What is that ? How to do ?

[next horizon]

ohh

so basically

[next horizon]

dm me

[robust cairn]

Don’t even try

@eager umbra I’m starting to hate kurogiri this is the worse feeling 😔

[eager umbra]

hes still alright to me

[robust cairn]

But he’s getting worse literally every patch

Except when they buffed his alpha which created another bug lmaooo

[eager umbra]

I just play other characters

use beta to send people away

and then lvl up my gamma first

maybe the reason why you don't like him as much (besides the bugs) is because you rely on your beta combo

[robust cairn]

The only combo he has?

🥹 you right I guess?

[eager umbra]

not the only way to kill someone

[fluid escarp]

Kuro is like cem. Ain't gonna feel good (with bugs) unless u utilize him super efficiently. That's how I see it and i honestly will never stop playing kuro cause he could do no dmg on regular beta and he still would be good. Alpha is needed to be the same though or it would feel terribad. Honestly best change they could've made idc shiz is almost op but mobility makes it not quiet.

His kit will never be a dabi tier lvl even if they~~ tried~~

If they gave lemil treatment*

[terse phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-spider-man-web-of-shadows-depressed-sad-gif-16524395

[robust cairn]

Mirio is nerfed

Kurogiri is bugged

We are not the same

And don’t say Mirio has bugs

Nowhere near as many

[placid slate]

But you died a lot of times cause of his bugs

And kuro doesnt

@eager umbra you know the mirio struggles 🤣

[eager umbra]

mirio's only real big bug you could avoid by just touching the ground before you activated it

the one with you being able to roll his auto combo tho was bs

glad that got fixed

kurogiri bugs are on another level tho

he has more depth to his bugs than some characters do in their entire kits

[placid slate]

you can still dodge it

[eager umbra]

I couldnt roll a one I had hit me earlier

on gp too

[placid slate]

mhm idk

i still dodge it a lot of times

[eager umbra]

I know it got fixed then broken the season after

think its fixed again now

[placid slate]

i hope so

imagine his basic combo being dodgable

[placid slate]

yea and he is still that strong

[eager umbra]

it depends

sometimes him being strong is a gamble

you could use gamma and get locked in the 3rd person gamma thing without you being able to do anything until his gamma comes back

or your beta portals could suddenly refuse to teleport

[placid slate]

yea i hate this

how can you avoid this

[eager umbra]

dont use it when it has like 3% left I guess

[placid slate]

mhm k

[eager umbra]

but dont really know for sure

[placid slate]

it worked for me well after they "fixed" it

i hate it when enemies sometimes land on different spots

if you hit beta

so you have to react if enemy got teleported or is still on the same position

[eager umbra]

if you mean the portal suddenly going 3 feet higher in the air you can manage that by looking down

its in the kaje video

I don't really care but its there

[eager umbra]

no regrets ^

extremely funny and kurogiri pilled

(also yes I missed the first beta on the second gamma on purpose)

@placid slate was able to dodge a mirio alpha combo like 30 mins ago btw on a roof so might depend on ground level idk

also some roofs don't display the beta red image that warns you when a mirio is about to pop out and its bs

[placid slate]

mhm yea weird

[placid slate]

kinda yes

[eager umbra]

been thinking in this current state of the game where kurogiri gamma is not teleporting 80% of the time

might just go back to levelling up beta first for my Strat

since it’s way more consistent even if not 100%

[eager umbra]

man double beta to escape is such an iffy strategy

cause its good to escape but if you land next to someone else with low hp you're cooked

[fluid escarp]

I dont double beta in general anymore much.

Also i run wall run to allow that

But even on not that build I try to use less

[eager umbra]

what build?

[fluid escarp]

Yellow blue
Blue purp

The non wall run is double purp

[eager umbra]

and how is double purple?

I assume you are running the two reload ones

afo and dabi

[fluid escarp]

Its for fun. I dont think its better.
And afo is meh to me. If my teammates can't live with me rezing, team heals, and saving them with my ports then im wasting it anyways.
I go dabi with single reloads if I can as that should be enough to get my rez back in time imo.

Zawa good but played out
Toga fun but rarely actually need it. But that requires a different playstyle that I havnt been doing. Its the one tuning that can help clutch a 2v1 or 3v1. (Ur gonna need to min max the tech u do with this)

Denki for fun and I think is actually good. I just lowkey gatekeep it. Good for his buggy betas and wakeups (huge) and againts melee range matchups.

I think it has potential to spike harder essentially but harder to make as consistent as anything with wallrun

[eager umbra]

denki kinda feels meh

you don't guarantee much

lasts for like a second and a half

[fluid escarp]

Fair. Idc for it but when u beta u can just focus on the route of it not stealing and hit them again basically and if they fall u can catch them always. Its really literally only good cuz he is buggy.

It being paired with purp villian does make the build feel more lackluster imo but yeah. Its good imo. And when u break shields and run ,u can punish if they chase thru port always

And he is easy to proc denki tuning so I give it a B to A-

Till beta fixed then just b range

Doesn't new character alpha pull into melee range? Also kendo spin is knockable. So meta dependent changes its use

[eager umbra]

why would you beta them after electrifying them

you're already right there

[fluid escarp]

I think ur lost a lil.

You have electric up let's say.
Theres a far target. You beta. You assume they dont get stolen and are ready to beta the same spot.

They do get stolen then you can readjust your aim. No need for any type of reaction speed.

guaranteed combo either way

[eager umbra]

?

the electric does nothing there if you agree that beta 2x alpha knocks

[fluid escarp]

. If u hit a beta with them in the air, then u have to look down and beta. But sometimes they don't get stolen, so if u look down to beta and they dont get stolen, no dmg.

If u have electric, u can stay looking at air and ready to beta again cuz if it does steal u can easily combo with time to react. Thats an example. I dont think i can explain better than that lol.

[eager umbra]

if you mean them falling and stunning them to get them to stay up longer to damage them sure

but thats only provided you break their shield before or with the beta

[fluid escarp]

Its an example , they dont gota be in air. I legit can't explain it better than i did lol. Its about not having to adjust aim if they get stolen/don't. Thats it.

Other benefits but thats the one im tryna explain

[fluid escarp]

Welcome aboard 🫡

[summer oracle]

Hes my twice replacement

If I can even get him

[brazen linden]

Don’t mind the bugs 🍷

We’ll get pest control sometime soon 🍷

[summer oracle]

thankfully i havent encountered any

[robust anchor]

You probably don't even realize yet if you just got him lol. But they are plentiful lmao.

[eager umbra]

this new endeavour is pretty decent for giri

easy beta when he's standing still into the air into the send away portal

[fluid escarp]

i fn hate kuro delay gamma holy nerf to oblivion

like 3 ways its ruined me good god

i feel 40% nerfed

[terse phoenix]

Welcome to the club

[terse phoenix]

So real

[simple snow]

They really don’t know what they’re doing with this character

[toxic hazel]

no genuinely bro i barely play him anymore because of this

it just feels so terrible LOL

i keep missing him, playing a game "oh yeah... nvm"

i would say surely this gets fixed really soon, but given the fact that they HAD to have known it did this when they "fixed" his beta, im super doubtful

[wild shard]

is it worth playing him in this meta or shall i stick to shinso

[terse phoenix]

I mean i still think it’s worth

But ofc there are better characters in the game

[eager umbra]

Shinso is good

Kurogiri is the buggiest piece of **** they’ve released ever and you really need to commit to him and love his gameplay to stick to him

I like teleporting in general and as a concept, the sitting back while also fighting and the send away tech

but his bugs have more depth to them than Shinso’s entire kit

there’s so many

[zinc fox]

to keep myself sane, i max alpha first and not use beta for teleporting enemies in much

i still do, but not as much as before

[eager umbra]

“to keep myself sane, I max alpha first”

that sentence is contradictory

his alpha is not that good that you should max it first

[zinc fox]

"his alpha is not that good"

xD

[eager umbra]

if your enemy is moving it’s not lol

I’ve been playing him for 3 seasons now

Go try 1v1 a yellow Deku or red Bakugo with your alpha

let’s be nice and handicap them to only having them use their alphas too

get back to me on how that goes

[zinc fox]

this deku moves around alot but still is getting hit by the ticks

[eager umbra]

deku got stuck in the air once he reached the peak of his black whip which is why you got the extra tick

the second alpha he just kinda started slow strafing while shooting at you

the next 2 you didn't get any ticks at all

because he figured out he shouldn't stay still

now imagine if he actually had shield

[zinc fox]

aight kuro's alpha suck

[eager umbra]

I mean they’re decent man but it’s mainly used for when you’re third partying someone or when someone is camping

and it’s especially not worth upgrading over your beta and gamma

[ripe nova]

You can't use the sp for 2 teammates anymore?

[fluid escarp]

Hmm idk. I tried it once this patch and it bugged. They went thru map and didnt come to me. I was also in zone

[ripe nova]

Yeah it's weird

So they nerfed his sp too

[final vector]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8khWtcb2Bqg

this video is so solid

[fluid escarp]

i dont watch vids but the fact someone finally uses alpha with beta combos- all i need to see to know he is good

[eager umbra]

I feel like it’s kinda common sense

You do around the same damage for less investment

[fluid escarp]

Common sense isn't a thing in mhur.

Community

[fluid escarp]

idk how to recreate it. tested it with with someone who was hosting eu (im na) culdnt get to work. idk if lag helps or doesnt but yea

this was na though and its basically rng i think. not practical but maybe someone can make it so one day

[eager umbra]

Interesting

I still need to find a way to make portal potion using more reliable without using 2 betas

and preferably higher up

[fluid escarp]

Gamma

[eager umbra]

doesnt go straight down

even if you aim straight down

[fluid escarp]

Gamma , hold Gamma cancel AND then HOLD beta after you look up. Make the portal in the direction your facing.
Then it acts like a regular beta since ur not in gamma stance by the time it finishes

[eager umbra]

because where the portal right next to you is random

[eager umbra]

ill try that

huh that works pretty good ty

where do you do the portals though

cause if I put it in the middle people walk into it

small circle scenario

[eager umbra]

kurogiri bug nearly cooked me

[eager umbra]

also this video unironically makes me ma

yeah 1v1 with lvl 1 kurogiri!!!!

beat anyone!!!

reality is you are getting 1v2ed by aizawa and assault endeavour because your console teammates are in your area but having trouble with a assault kiri

stop posting noob stomping videoss about a character you dont even play

god im so tilted but its actually true

[final vector]

They're just glazing, but there are some pros in this lobby

Just not people with great teamwork since team is randomized

[fluid escarp]

yea thats been a thing lately. i havnt played him much recetly and just figured out that tech like a month ago so idk. my guess is obv hidden as possible. I think u can place it in storm but teleport loop in a way u wont be in storm.

[fluid escarp]

finally someone who uses the wheel instead of the bag jesus (idr if i said this already b4 but no 1 fkn does this T.T)

[eager umbra]

force of habit

I guess I could've just pressed 2 but idk

[fluid escarp]

yea i do the same prolly lol. still way better than brining whole ah inventorry and clicking

[eager umbra]

Can’t believe people do that tbh

[toxic hazel]

bro people who enter the bag are genuinely so tilting to watch clips of

[solemn maple]

Clips from my trial games

[pastel mango]

Has anyone else noticed an issue this season with warping both teammates at once using SA?
In situations where one teammate goes down and I warp him to my feet, then my other teammate goes down right afterward and I use my SA again, the second teammate is not brought all the way to me. He does appear to get moved, but seemingly only part of the way toward me, and last night I had a round where that teammate somehow fell through the map instead of warping to me and was not freed until his revive timer expired naturally.

Warping one downed teammate at a time has been working fine. I can't remember if I've had a situation yet where I've warped both while neither were near me.

[fluid escarp]

Ye buggy.
1 teamate for me bugged today.

You habe a 240hz monitor or higher?

[pastel mango]

My monitor is 144 Hz, but my game is set to 240.

[fluid escarp]

Same. Jw if it bugged on 240hz as well, since his regular betas dont apparently

[eager umbra]

double teammates just dont work

if its 1 its usually alright

its it 2 they either dont tp or just tp a lil closer to you

this is way more common in this season too

before it was usually fine 95% of the time

now its like 0% if its 2 people

[fluid escarp]

Gamma beta hold + cancel stance (to make it act like reg beta to go where ur looking-harder cuz gamma delay bs)

i need to learn how to name these techs

[brazen linden]

Most functional Kurogiri moment 🍷

My first game with him after a decent break too oml

[final orbit]

idk if im misunderstanding kurogiri's kit or if the game is just buggy, but does anyone know why sometimes when i beta someone they dont get tp'd? I get the dmg numbers on my screen but instead of them going through the portal they just fall into iframes in the same spot i hit them. this happens fairly often and its making the already brainpower draining character even more confusing to me.

ill try and get a clip of it happening that way i can better show what im talking about

[silent nebula]

Yeah, that's just a Kurogiri moment

[eager umbra]

You don’t need to

It’s a common and well known bug

Also unrelated thought I had just now

Revenge rapid with tech Mirio tuning will go hard

[simple snow]

I am so lowly losing my love for this character

Everything feels like a slot machine on whether it’ll work or not

[barren schooner]

Wdym that’s the best part you gamble your life away using him

But on a serious note I do love korugiri but this man is just hittin the lowball with the bug, although I mainly use him with an aggressive play style and one thing I do when the beta just does the dmg is tp TO the person and try to catch their wake up
I’ve seen this recent video and I’m trying to be such as an agressive korugiri as he is but yk things can go very wrong with the dps and stuff

https://youtu.be/8khWtcb2Bqg

[eager umbra]

already got posted and that's guys facing noobs being an aggressive kurogiri so yeah if you use that as an example you'll do bad

[simple snow]

Aren’t the majority of these videos top level vs the average player

[barren schooner]

No and also hello again, I use korugiri a lot ever since release but I do try to tp with the beta fails

[simple snow]

No harm it’s good content but I think it makes a character look vastly more powerful

[eager umbra]

yes

[barren schooner]

True

[eager umbra]

when I play kurogiri I get focused hard

[simple snow]

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[eager umbra]

and usually that's fine but if you're low levels and already have used some of your betas

you are literally cooked

[barren schooner]

Well that’s because you’re the teams main and only support

[eager umbra]

it can come down to positioning and managing of cooldowns

but especially in final circle there is little you can do

depending on if it's got cover or not

[eager umbra]

my point is he doesnt

[barren schooner]

Tbh I’d expected him to be much more of a technical or assault

[eager umbra]

support is fine for him

technical could work for a skillset

he's not an assault character really

[simple snow]

Playing this character just makes me sad atm

Land a nice gamma shot they don’t get warped to me

Teammate goes down sa doesn’t work

[eager umbra]

gotta learn to live with it

[simple snow]

Not being allowed to go through my portals sometimes

[eager umbra]

I still do because I like sending people into storm

but the bugs make me stronger

I think

[simple snow]

I wish I could but being a content creator restricts hard learning towards a character

He’s really fun

[barren schooner]

Only solution I see is that he gets bugs fixed or straight up dmg increase

[eager umbra]

yeah when he gets his bugs fixed he'll be way more accessible as a character

[barren schooner]

How so ?

[eager umbra]

from a learning curve side

[simple snow]

Post daily play every character

Don’t really wanna play the game a huge chunk in my free time

[barren schooner]

Oh I’m sorry I just realized you’re junkies

[simple snow]

Also gives a better perspective on what the average player could deal with when they play kurogiri

[barren schooner]

😭

I don’t really watch YouTube all that much

But nice to meet you

[eager umbra]

I will say the portal not tping you is a more rare one

and the SA should work if it's only 1 guy down

but otherwise yeah the portals not tping enemies is pretty common

[barren schooner]

Honestly that rework of this character is needed

[simple snow]

Nice to meet u as well

[simple snow]

It’s still the whole thing of even if rare it just shouldn’t happen

[barren schooner]

Should be made so that you select which teammate should be brought to you

[eager umbra]

it's better that it tp's both

because you're only using 1 charge for 2

like it did before before it broke and stoped tping them to you

[barren schooner]

That should waste the whole charge to actually be fair imo

[eager umbra]

agreed but I'm just letting you know it's not that common

[summer oracle]

Maybe not “bad” but yeah it’s not the best example as it’s just some players vs one good player

[barren schooner]

Now I feel like putting myself through torture and playing him

[simple snow]

I’m glad I got the rare bug then 🥹

[summer oracle]

I had a friend that played in one and he just said that it’s you vs a bunch of mid ahh players

It’s like unranked kinda

[barren schooner]

Unranked atm is basically what ace rank is supposed to be

[summer oracle]

It’s not too bad tbh

[simple snow]

Unranked is horrible atm

[eager umbra]

you could've gotten this one where they just disappear @simple snow

also yeah I'm pretty much only playing ranked

[summer oracle]

It’s really just the teammates that are killing it for me I’m fighting solo against everyone rn

[eager umbra]

unranked has been horrible for a long while now

[simple snow]

Oh my god what is this character 😭

[eager umbra]

ever since they killed removing teammates

now I have to leave every time I dont get a notebook lvl 30

cause I cannot stand these noobs who don't even go through the tutorial

being harsh but I have tried playing with them

they leave once the timer up is up, they die instantly, steal your support cards, etc

sometimes dont even heal themselves

[simple snow]

^^^

[eager umbra]

😎

[simple snow]

I do it daily with lower levelled players and it’s insane that even really basic things they just don’t do

[barren schooner]

Best part is that they just stand there walking and some how make it to 3 teams left

[summer oracle]

I’ve been running exclusively mains unless I’m with my duo this season I have next to no room to experiment with the mains

[simple snow]

Surely it correlates with them that the blue pot does blue health

[summer oracle]

And they butchered twice so I’m down a pick aswell

It’s been rough this season

[barren schooner]

What do you think makes it the most rough ?

[summer oracle]

The twice nerf

I just wanna play my favourite character again

I couldn’t care less if the damage was non existent I just want the combos man

If I could play twice the teammates wouldn’t even be a huge issue if they weren’t before on him they won’t be now

[barren schooner]

Well there are many people who since twice as annoying character to face with his combo that did the most damage and now it seems very hypocritical to say that they wanted to be buffed I understand that they removed his combo and that’s the only reason people used him

[summer oracle]

The funniest part is that twuce didn’t even have the most damaging combo

Excluding monoma I’m pretty sure fb does

And rapid toga with fb blood gets a 400 hp character down to one tap after her nerfs

[barren schooner]

Fb?

[summer oracle]

Red deku

[barren schooner]

Oh

Okay

[eager umbra]

this is why I still play the giri

[barren schooner]

But in my opinion the thing that’s ruining this game in general is the skill-based match making the constant uselessness of teammates ruins the experience and not giving people the teammates they deserve because it’s not fair that me ( lvl 100 player ) should be placed with a literal 10yr old (who was on vc) that’s barely lvl 20

[silent nebula]

Honestly, I don't get why they just erased Twice's combos. My, and many others, complaints were mainly the tracking and fps bug. They fixed the fps bug, but that leaves the tracking left. I've played Twice since he dropped, and all I really wanted was for the gamma tracking to be gone. He didn't need it

[summer oracle]

Yeah no it’s actually awful rn especially with how easy it is to rank you just get players that don’t deserve to be in the same rank

[barren schooner]

Did you send him to storm 😭

[silent nebula]

Bye bye

[summer oracle]

I think with how short his gamma is he still needs some tracking on both parts of the move so that it’ll still land but not at all to the extent it currently has he should keep some tracking but make it far weaker something like assault deku beta tracking on the tape then just nerf the slashes a little (because the tape is shorter then the slashes and if they don’t track the combos will not be as good as it will be near impossible to start them)

[barren schooner]

Twice combos IS the problem people complained about that’s why he got so much hate and now they want him back

[silent nebula]

That would be a lot better tbh

[summer oracle]

He should not be turning around and tracking through walls because it was not only busted but it was crazy disorienting for twice players

[eager umbra]

yes

[eager umbra]

no one but twice mains want his combos back

[barren schooner]

Imma start doing this now

[silent nebula]

Or increase the range and remove the tracking. I js want him to have variety in his combos as well. I wasn't the biggest fan of Twice bc of his 1-track combos

[summer oracle]

It’s the reason he got the hate but his kit is so weak around clones he needs the combos for this one then make a new skillset around clones (like throwing them or something like that)

[eager umbra]

they made him simpler by removing his combos instead of just nerfing his damage which was dumb but he's dead now at least

[eager umbra]

have fun with trying

[barren schooner]

I-frames need to be disabled correct or no ?

[summer oracle]

Also how do you guys send someone away with kuro I tried it a little in training and it just never sent them through the second portal

Do I have to run up a little or something

[barren schooner]

Bug in the game

[summer oracle]

No like warp someone to you then make a second portal and send them away

[summer oracle]

Either nerf his alpha damage (for both him and clones) or adjust the alpha cancels to actually cancel the alpha after his last knife

Before hed get the full alpha damage off even if you canceled it after one knife

It’d add more skill to his combos if you want more damage but slower more vulnerable combos or faster but weaker ones

[barren schooner]

The only way to send them away is if they walk towards the portal where you shot like what he did to bakugo

[barren schooner]

@summer oracle

[summer oracle]

Is there a way with just beta beta

[robust anchor]

You just bring them to you then look the direction you want to send them then before hitting max distance or letting go you need to point yourself at them. The entry portal is always where you are looking with beta. Might take you a little practice to learn the timing/aim of it but it really isnt hard

Like beta then beta but make sure the second one doesn't hit them

[summer oracle]

so look somehwere you want the portal to go then look back at them so it places in front of you again?

[robust anchor]

Yes. The entry is always where you are looking so it doesnt matter if you originally shot the portal in the opposite direction as long as when you let go of beta you are looking at them

[summer oracle]

ok thats where i was messing up i would just keep looking in the same direction all throughout the shot

thanks

[robust anchor]

You're welcome. You can also do it another way by using full length beta into storm and then jump above the entry portal and using gamma. You float into it taking you to storm (that part makes it risky) but your gamma is still at the entry point so you beta someone with it to send them to your body then tap gamma again to exit safely back by where the entry portal was. This method i feel is easier for longer send outs but is much riskier. Especially since gamma is a bit wonky right now. But it can be easier if you arent good at the beta method. The beta ones I feel usually end up being shorter send outs because you dont usually have the time for a full beta before they wake up, move, etc. But in honestly the beta version i feel is more useful especially since its easy to just follow up with a gamma and spam them in storm.

[eager umbra]

the bakugo didnt walk towards it what lol

he was literally on the ground when I tped him

[barren schooner]

Wtf

[eager umbra]

I mean idk how I have to explain this to you