#Kurogiri

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eager umbra
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You totally don't feel the need to devalue solos because you need your team

robust cairn
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šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

eager umbra
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Didn't even watch the video lmao

robust cairn
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BRO ISNT EVEN PLAYING RANKED AND HES FLEXING

eager umbra
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just wants to spam dog in the chat to try win the spam war he's made up in his head

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I'm already ace

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and this was last season

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when I was ace then

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I don't feel the need to play against 3 stacks in solo queue

robust cairn
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My guy you’re hilarious. I win 1v3s you win 1v1s we’re not the same šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«

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šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«

eager umbra
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My guy you use easy as pie combos

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please

robust cairn
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My guy you play busted Aizawa

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You literally turn off people quirks

eager umbra
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I agree, he needs a nerf

robust cairn
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YOU FIGHT PEOPLE THAT CANT FIGHT BACK

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LIKE WHAT

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IM EASY?

eager umbra
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revert his gamma nerf and his alpha back to 5

robust cairn
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ATLEAST THEY CAN FIGHT BACK WHEN THEY FIGHT ME

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LMAOOO

eager umbra
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Brother no they can't lmao

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you said it yourself

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you're an assassin

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you hit them with one beta and then chain them into a 400+ dmg combo

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then hit them with the last gamma beta to secure the kill

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what fight can they give

robust cairn
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Aizawa players: yea I basically fight chickens with their heads cut off

But dw I’m very skillful

robust cairn
eager umbra
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I wasn't aware aizawa had permanent SA

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need to try him out this season

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haven't done that yet cause found more of an interest in kurogiri and monoma

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will get back to him soon

robust cairn
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Combo sa combo sa šŸ’€ the Aizawa way

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Very cool

eager umbra
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was there a limit on dodges this season too?

robust cairn
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If u can’t predict rolling with Aizawa ur trash

eager umbra
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Also you ignore how SA does not instantly affect someone with iframes lol

robust cairn
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Oh u roll? I’ll just hit when the iframes turn off

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These are Aizawa basics

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Aizawas that miss cause someone rolls are terrible

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Try rolling in front of me as kurogiri see what happens

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You will get an ahhh blasting

eager umbra
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True, but in scenarios where the aizawa and the opponent are not the only people around you are not afforded such luxuries

robust cairn
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There is a reason why Aizawa is the #1 pvp unit

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In a 1v1 a good Aizawa can usually come out on top

eager umbra
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I agree

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But I disagree that you can do absolutely nothing

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Even running away can make him waste his SA

robust cairn
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Speaking of

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I’m actually interested

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Could all might grab you out of aizawas gamma

eager umbra
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I will go test

robust cairn
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Cause the times I have nearly smashed my pc are when Aizawa gammas and I get hit by an external force

eager umbra
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If I had to guess, probably from the back and not from the front

robust cairn
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Like mt lady beta

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Or red deku beta

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I quit for four months when and Aizawa a y and then a red Deku betad me and I instantly died

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The most bs thing ever nearly cried

eager umbra
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I mean aizawa can gamma into alpha grab slam so like

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you'll get the same damage solo anyway

robust cairn
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Oh I know

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I don’t mind that as much

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It’s not about the damage

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But when red deku does it it’s just more personal

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Also doesn’t Aizawa slam do 200?

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Red Deku does 250

eager umbra
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210

robust cairn
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So red Deku is better

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Or actually maybe with the need to tuning he might be like 220

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Or 230

eager umbra
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I suppose but the difference isn't huge

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You can get it to 247 with santa outfit tuning

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pre tuning bug fix you could get it to 260

robust cairn
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🤮

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Whatever anyway I’m gonna go play some ultra rumble

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Shi in some teams as a solo q

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WE CAN USE GIFS

eager umbra
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also for the record testing it

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deku beta does 200

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actually can go to 221

robust cairn
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Direct impact level 9?

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Direct impact does more true damage

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Hp Dang’s

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Damage

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It’s like 50 extra true dmg

eager umbra
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147 gp and 53 true

robust cairn
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Weird

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I was doing 200 betas pre nerf without direct impact

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Dam that nerf hit that beta hard

eager umbra
robust cairn
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Also they’re defo gonna buff him

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Which is gonna be ridiculous

robust cairn
# eager umbra anyway yes

Also @eager umbra I haven’t been on today how does kurogiris beta interact with all mights alpha?

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Does it hit but not teleport?

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I forget at time how super armor interacts with portals. Pretty sure they just don’t care

eager umbra
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will test

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need to test that later ^

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nvm I guess it's not too much diff from firing up

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anyway yes allmight keeps punching even if you tp him

robust cairn
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lmao first game on too im crying

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i broke mics ankles and that compress prob got off the game after that

fluid escarp
eager umbra
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what timing do you do for the button presses

fluid escarp
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Fast. Gamma beta gamma jump

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Gota hold beta though. Guide goes over how gamma beta works

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Hold beta while tap gamma and then let go after tap

pastel mango
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You can send your gamma into the storm to confirm the kill on them. They won't be able to heal if you poke them with an alpha whenever they try.

robust cairn
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Like wow you saved some resources but you’ve also given yourself more to think about

fluid escarp
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idk when ima ever make the 2nd guide but just an example on saving someone

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#game-moments message

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and i did place that beta there for that reason in mind

eager umbra
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šŸ‘

wide fractal
eager umbra
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you fired it right into the ship

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Kurogiri’s portals do tend to get stuck on walls or ceilings if you’re right next to them though I don’t think this is a good example of that

wide fractal
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That’s the one I’m angry about

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Also, the weird thing where the animation shows the portal is going somewhere where it didn’t go

eager umbra
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Also no the portal didn’t move beyond where it got stuck from what I can see

wide fractal
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Sorry, wait no my reading comprehension is lacking today

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But that is so stupid

wide fractal
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Hold on

eager umbra
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That is weird

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Yeah just best to make sure you’re in the clear when firing portals

fluid escarp
eager umbra
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yo remind me @fluid escarp, does higher fps/hz mean better chance to grab with gamma?

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cause this is diabolical

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literally standing still

fluid escarp
# eager umbra yo remind me <@216961277472407552>, does higher fps/hz mean better chance to gra...

Not anymore I beleive.
Way to test it is go training. (Go all tech to make cooldown on bots faster ) put them as lemeillion and make them beta so they go in the air. Gamma them. It should steal every time UNLESS it pierces (which you can easily tell as it goes further)

Or you can spawn on like typhoon with bots, break the roof and when you reset position they will spawn on the same spot and fall (might need to hit them to make them fall) and gamma.

eager umbra
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he was literally on the ground

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standing still

fluid escarp
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I see that.

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That has nothing to do with piercing.
I was telling you how to test if hz affects gamma stealing.

eager umbra
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so it doesn't matter if I go tp a bot in the air

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I'll just go test it in a real game

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gamma feels slower to turn on higher hz

fluid escarp
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Hm I'll test that.

Also it used to be waaaaay less likely that gamma steals in the air, so that's y it's a good test.

eager umbra
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@fluid escarp testing it on bots now cause bored and testing beta tp range for storm stuff

fluid escarp
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yea, its cooked. I actually prefer this and think it shouldnt dmg+steal unless gamma port is like in momo alpha range tbh. only knocked/down
Only annoying when ur hunting an annoying momo or rapid ochako and they just get to live cuz of it

eager umbra
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I think it makes no sense if it doesn't teleport cause you're firing a portal at them just like with normal beta

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It's OP but they should redesign the move otherwise then

eager umbra
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a kurogiri classic

wide fractal
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Should I swap willpower out with kota finder?

eager umbra
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But be prepared for it to do nothing if someone is already on it

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Cause 8 times out of ten there will be someone on it

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And most of the time their teammate or someone else will come

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And level 1 Kurogiri cannot do Jack

eager umbra
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btw seems a more simpler way to knock if you teleport someone is to melee and alpha

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tho obvs does less dmg than 2 melees and an alpha just simpler for me then having to flick every time

eager umbra
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@fluid escarp see you running that taz tourney, good luck with all those zen guys lol

fluid escarp
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appreciate it o7

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some ppl tryin to kuro cuz of me lol

eager umbra
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from the tourney?

fluid escarp
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yea. first day someone started going kuro for most games after they saw me portal loop lol. and a couple others tried to kuro a game , maybe 2 max but then they just got off him the next round. Another went kuro/cem.
we were inspirational

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close to winning somehow with all the stuff that happend. teamated raged left vc for 2 whole games. Random other blunders that coulda easily been avoided like going in storm to get token but not having greens to heal lmao

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5 points off. Many things culda learned from. That and the best team , after the first game, LITERALLY targeted me when they could. died 5/6games times to them, or because of them

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red kiri gota get changed. i hate that character with a passion. just nothing u can do vs SA kiri. really even without but esp with that

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flies as far as ur portals go easily and fast and lands... im tilted a lil ima stop lol. but yea, kuro might be the wave

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that ppl will start picking up on

eager umbra
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I think that just reinforces my play style in staying back

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Haven’t played against a good Red kiri in a long while

eager umbra
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Also by portal loop you mean beta combo or?

eager umbra
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why I like willpower

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think the mirio tried to bait me into his gamma but he was too slow

fluid escarp
eager umbra
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you mean like the two portals are mid air or one is at the ground?

fluid escarp
eager umbra
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i know you can go in portals while drinking

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just wondering specifically

fluid escarp
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so one is high, and the other is low

eager umbra
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ok so not what I was saying

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they can just go in your portal from below

fluid escarp
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they can always go thru ur portals

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idk wat u sayn

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u can set it up to wehre both are in air, but u still make it loopable. thats a portal loop

fluid escarp
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r u saying u do mid air portal loops?

eager umbra
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yes

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well no I haven't really used the tech

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but im asking if thats what you were doing

fluid escarp
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got aclip?

eager umbra
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no

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because like I said I haven't really used the tech

fluid escarp
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can u make 1 in training? cuz idk if we on the same page. might be new tech

eager umbra
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I mean you would just do a gamma while up in the air then fire up right

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oh wait nvm that wouldnt work lol

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unless you did it off a building I guess

fluid escarp
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<,<

eager umbra
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also im going to dm something to you

fluid escarp
eager umbra
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I mean it does exist

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but if I follow up my yes with a well no I assumed you would know I mean no

fluid escarp
eager umbra
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literally just do what I said

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its not complicated and im not sure its worth the extra effort but it would stop an enemy on the ground taking your portal at least

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just do what you're already doing off the edge of a building

fluid escarp
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i only use portal loops to pot,so that was in mind and was confused lol. my b

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thought u maybe had one where u pot while in air somehow

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but never thought of dong it off ledge til u said it

eager umbra
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probably not worth it if your not experiencing any problems normally

median stone
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does the beta - gamma loop works with no matter what gamma level?

fluid escarp
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if u can do it end circle well, kidna worth it. esp when ppl start catching on (for tourneys really)

robust cairn
median stone
eager umbra
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cant escape to save my life I guess

median stone
eager umbra
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I was kinda chasing so I was in a bad spot but that endeavour did not gaf yeah

median stone
eager umbra
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I was using kaje's tech of using a portal and hovering around it to try bait the iida into it

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did not work though

median stone
eager umbra
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not really

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I had zero opportunities to use gamma there

median stone
eager umbra
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I guess but I kept getting caught as soon as I betaed

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and my second beta got stuck on the hill

median stone
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btw. check dm

eager umbra
robust cairn
eager umbra
eager umbra
wide fractal
eager umbra
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Nintendo switch things

naive granite
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Imagine being so bad at kuro you can't even third party 😭

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I def ruined bros day

eager umbra
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snipe gaming

eager umbra
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@fluid escarp you notice beta isnt even teleporting consistently now

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im so done with this guys bugs

robust cairn
robust cairn
wide fractal
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there’s like 1 bug that works in our favor and it’s that weird double dmg beta bug bug in gamma

eager umbra
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ya its horrible

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i cba to even play him now

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teleporting character doesn't even teleport half the time

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like what

robust cairn
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yall should watch my streams sometime

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i play kurogiri

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its so sad the number of times i shouldve warped

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and just dont

fluid escarp
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because im perpetually not finishing my kuro guide, ill give a mini breakdown

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when it comes to combos or beta, esp in 1v1, theres some things to keep in mind. DPS over time and iframes + resources

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now its fine to go for the b b b gb combo here, but thats not the point.

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ill explain more in video, but basically using alphas in your combos are really good. It saves resources, dmg is as much as a beta at like lvl 4, and it might not KNOCK THEM DOWN.

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ppl will often roll, run after u end combo with alpha. Additionally, the knockdown timer resets (idk how it fully works) so u can get more damage before they get knocked. Not only that, u can bait peoples moves by using an alpha to cancel thier moves mid animation

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early game is where alpha combo things are more important.

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and again, with beta not teleporting, going for melees are becoming more important (mainly when they are in the air as u can just beta the same spot twice and hit them regardless) (actually I think you can do the same thing if they are in the air. ima test that out)

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here's a combo thatll let u understand baiting more

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and u want to make it to where they are liften in the air during stagger so they cant roll

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Beta Alpha, wait, beta

fluid escarp
fluid escarp
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example of reusing beta for 1v1

glad cargo
worthy violet
simple snow
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This character makes me feel so cool and smart lmao

little cobalt
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as he should
he is super fun to play

simple snow
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His creativity gets the dopamine flowing

little cobalt
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snatching teammates from a mile away just hits different too

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cuse you just KNOW the other team is fuming

eager umbra
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baiting people into portals, sending them into storms, kidnapping people away from their teams, etc

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trying to play him in ranked is just kinda infuriating lol unless you're specifically playing him in a way where you expect none of your stuff to teleport your enemies

toxic hazel
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yeah the portals not working is genuinely sooooooooooooo annoying, but otherwise hes so fun

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lowkey been thinking we all gotta work together to choose 1 voice line to mean that you're out of special actions

feel like it'll be helpful for when mfs not paying attention, the amount of times my special action has bugged and i had to use 2 charges on one guy, and then the 2nd guy doesn't realize i don't have it and plays aggro is hella unfort

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i wish you could ping it more easily somehow

fluid escarp
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smart idea. I like using team lvl up kit ping and letting ppl know what it means in chat

toxic hazel
fluid escarp
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yea, ima start doing mini blue means 1 up. mini green 2 up. team lvl 0 up. or something similar

Yeah too much info ppl don't read as well. Lvl up kit good enuf

robust cairn
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It’s creeping up

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He’s becoming more inconsistent

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He’s almost more likely to fail than he is to succeed

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If that makes sense

simple snow
robust cairn
eager umbra
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and if it was the gamma beta that’d be one thing

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but the beta too

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has anyone actually submitted a bug report yet

robust cairn
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THE GAMMA HAS A NEW BUG

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IT JUST DOESNT APPEAR

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KAJE OUT HEAR SHOWING U TECH IM SHOWING U BUGS

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CAUSE I GET ALL OF THEM FOR SOME REASON

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2 GAMMAS FAILED IN A ROW

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THEY DIDNT GET SHOT

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THEY JUST DIDNT APPEAR

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AND THEN PEOPLE HAVE THE GALL TO TELL ME KUROGIRI IS OVERPOWERED

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IM FIGHTING AGAINST ENEMIES AND MY OWN DEMONS PLAYING KUROGIRI

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But yea I’m suffering

eager umbra
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gamma does show up but your camera wasnt in view of it

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if you press or hold gamma again it fixes itself kinda

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iirc

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happens when you gamma off a ledge

robust cairn
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No

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That’s a different bug

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And I didn’t gamma off a ledge

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I gammad in the air

eager umbra
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i mean close enough to the thing

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I don't really see the difference between the two

robust cairn
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Different bug entirely in one of them kurogiri still moves and the gamma is basically just a fake

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In this one kurogiri can’t move and you have no gamma

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You’re basically stun locking yourself

eager umbra
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well better to send a bug report

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and probably through the official website or smthn and not the discord because I doubt they check the latter

robust cairn
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They’ve already tried to fix kurogiri. They rarely try to fix something twice

eager umbra
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not really

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he's a character on the gacha and his shtick doesn't work

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they'll keep trying

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like they did with aizawa

robust cairn
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I sent them a video of a person having immortality hacks

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And they didn’t ban them

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I sent them videos of people leaking content (idc about your moral ethics on that) and they didn’t ban the leakers

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They’ve proven to me time and time again it doesn’t matter what I send them they won’t do anything about it

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But feel free to contact them im just over sending them emails

eager umbra
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pretty sure they messed with taz for a bit

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till he started going back to it idk what happened there

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anyway I will

robust cairn
eager umbra
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maybe something to do with fps

fluid escarp
eager umbra
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a few games of me spamming gamma beta on people's wakeup has rekindled my love for this character

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even if sending someone who should have invinc into the storm 200 feet away is kind of unfair

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it is incredibly funny

brazen linden
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God all these bugs

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It’s way better then launch but bruuuuuuuh

eager umbra
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the new techs make him more playable

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and the alpha buff and the bug with double damage on the gamma beta

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beta's pretty much have consistently always tped before this latest patch

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the gamma not tping you was pretty annoying tho

brazen linden
brazen linden
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Kid literally bears me out I have my kuro bugged and talks salt I hate this game lmaooo

eager umbra
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betaing someone you just tped to try rez while your getting shot is such a vibe

eager umbra
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save yourself moment stuff

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yes I do it myself if it happens

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its a good strat

robust cairn
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Get down Mr President

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But bro

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Ngl

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Idk how much longer I can keep going with kurogiri

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The bugs are getting worse

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They’re getting more frequent, and more deadly

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They created new bugs toošŸ’€ WHY CANT THEY GIVE A NERF BUG TO ANY META UNIT WHY IS IT JUST MIRIO AND KUROGIRI

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WERE NOT EVEN META

eager umbra
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I had some people focusing me in unranked today

eager umbra
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as long as we can still send people out of storm consistently i will never stop playing kurogiri

eager umbra
robust cairn
toxic hazel
robust cairn
toxic hazel
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i meant ochako gamma

robust cairn
toxic hazel
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my brother in christ you're CHOOSING this character

robust cairn
eager umbra
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I got your gamma bug fyi

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I also got a different weird gamma bug where I activated gamma with like 1% left and it kept me in the gamma state although I couldn’t use it

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So I could only use the rest of my abilities and ofc aiming them was impossible since I was spectating myself through my own gamma portal

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Maybe could’ve used gamma once it recharged to get rid of the effect but had to use pu since it was final circle and I was getting pwned

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Anyway yeah character has a lot of bugs

lofty shard
eager umbra
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@fluid escarp btw how do you get your gamma loop to happen cause I watched the video but don't really get it

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I do aim straight up with the gamma but the top portal is always off to the side a bit so after like the first loop you just fall to the side of the bottom portal

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do I need to shoot less further up or what

fluid escarp
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That just happens. I have to dona bigger breakdown but if ur looking at center of map with ur body AND cursor, it'll likely spawn in front of u.

Anywho in gamma stance, when u press beta you can hold it and it keeps going. However you don't have to be in gamma stance for the beta to keep going.
So that means u can essentially start holding gamma to cancel it, press hold beta (b4 u leave gamma stance). Ull be out of gamma stance and beta will keep going.
When not in gamma stance portals just spawn in front of u so it's easier to loop.

Also if ur in the air u can look down and beta and it'll go straight down. U don't have to be in gamma stance for that one since beta looking down actually kust goes straight down

fluid escarp
eager umbra
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alright ty

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cause his allmight beta took 354 hp

ripe nova
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I was in ur game

eager umbra
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was he

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I see

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i did see u ya

ripe nova
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Ur a very good kurogiri btw

eager umbra
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ty

fluid escarp
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tryna figure out hot to make beta loop good. You def gota walk in with min momentum to not use it all. Also its easier to move left and right vs foward facing and backwards.
With gamma , when u canel it ull face where the body is facing, so u can make it consistent for sure. Thats the main thing u have to look at is where ur facing and aim the portal occordingly

fluid escarp
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oops wrong discord. o well

robust cairn
robust cairn
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Dear My Hero Ultra Rumble Devs:

I saw your post yesterday on discord yesterday regarding your opening of this support ticket to better diagnose bugs and issues as the pertain to the game. I am grateful that you are being so diligent about this. I have many many bugs to share with you when it comes to kurogiri, along with a decent amount of clips to go with it however I do not know how to send clips on this ticket since I don't actually see a way to do that.

Here is a list of every kurogiri bugs I've encountered thus far:

Alpha: Won't do splash damage if an enemy disconnects, will only do the first hit of contact damage (~40dmg lvl 1)

Beta: can fail to allow me to go through it essentially failing to warp me, can fail to do damage (I hit the enemy but the enemy takes no damage), can fail to appear (Same problem as the first beta bug but this time it just does not show up but still consume ammo of course), if the beta fails even once it will continue to bug out until I run out of ammo, can force warp me back through it (I have a clip of this but essentially I ran through my portal was nowhere near an ochako gamma and it going off near my portal caused it to suck me back through and get hit by the gamma), can fail to close (enemies can sometimes enter my portals long after they're closed), there are a lot more but that just a few the most egregious by far is the beta not being able to pull. Beta used to be able to pull on contact now there is a 1 in 3 chance that it just won't.

Gamma: every bug with the beta and alpha but also: can fail to activate and leave you stun essentially locked which it can do multiple times in a row

Special action: can fail to warp teammates, can warp a teammate but bring them right back to where they were

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that should be good

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make sure yall write a support ticket

eager umbra
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Also you could’ve spaced that beta part way better

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Just a mass of text

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Bullet points would work better, which is what I’ll do anyway

robust cairn
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I don’t think they have an option for bullet points

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Ehhh also going to fish up twitch clips is a lot of work

eager umbra
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It’s worth it if it gets it fixed easier and faster

eager umbra
robust cairn
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If u want u can fish some clips from my stream

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theyre in there

eager umbra
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im ngl im becoming real toxic with kurogiri

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but some of these people deserve the tbagging though

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maybe not the ochaco who ruined my tbagging of another guy who deserved the tbagging but still

eager umbra
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or at all really

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beta reaches before i exit gamma

wide fractal
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I just had the worst glitch ever

fluid escarp
wide fractal
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Or bug

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I used both my beta portals to get to kota then went in to use a gamma portal but it bugged and kept saying ammo out

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I was stuck in gamma mode…

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But was controlling regular Kuro…

eager umbra
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if u can clip it and send it to bandai that'd be good

wide fractal
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Also can this character be consistent for once…

eager umbra
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it only happened to me when I activated gamma close to when it was dead

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like 2-3% left

wide fractal
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Mines was full

eager umbra
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hmm theres like 3 different ways of getting that state it seems lol

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bro has more depth to his bugs than some characters depth in their entire kits

wide fractal
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Like my pov and movement were on the drone but everything else was my kurogiri

robust cairn
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here u go in case u want to use it

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Its a portion of the bugs I've had so far

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Clip 1: 0:00 - 0:13 : Beta failing to pull three times in a row
Clip 2: 0:14 - 0:24 : Special action failing to grab teammate
Clip 3: 0:25 - 0:35 : Getting pulled through my own portal
Clip 4: 0:35 - 0:44 : Gamma failing to activate after using a beta
Clip 5: 0:45 - 0:52 : Beta failing to pull when used in the air
Clip 6: 0:52 - 0:59 : Gamma failing to activate after reviving
Clip 7: 0:59 - 1:04 : Alpha failing to do splash damage on a downed target
Clip 8: 1:05 - 1:30 : Gamma Beta getting trapped on the ceiling + Delayed teleportation
Clip 9: 1:31 - 1:41 : Beta failing to pull when used on a target in the sky
Clip 10: 1:42 - 1:47 : Beta failing to pull when the target is on a slope
Clip 11 : 1:48 - 2:07 : Gamma failing to pull + Beta failing to pull
Clip 12 : 2:08 - 2:19 : Beta failing to let me use it + Beta Disappearing + Using ammo

eager umbra
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ty thats pretty useful

ancient flicker
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Wish I had Kuro

robust cairn
ancient flicker
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Well it was still awesome

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Your Kurogiri is quite impressive even with all your setbacks

ancient flicker
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I wanna be a good Kuro even without him

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ā€œI’ll suck them in.ā€

robust cairn
robust cairn
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I’ll stream at 4pm est today

ancient flicker
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So around 5 for me

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A shame. I’ll be making dinner around that time and streaming around an hour later

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I’ll at least shoot you a follow so I can get notifications for Kuro footage

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Ehehehehehe number 69

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But anyways

ancient flicker
eager umbra
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@robust cairn @fluid escarp whats your guys opinions about gamma 9 first before beta

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had some reddit kurogiri main swearing to me this was a good way

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feels like I wont be able to escape anyone if I get caught with gamma 9 and beta 3 for example

robust cairn
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On one hand it’s better on one hand it’s worse

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Gamma 9:
pro: easier at stealing
If no one is attacking it covers more distance than the beta
You can stay in turret mode longer
Con: it can’t combo
If you’re being focused you won’t be able to really get away easily with a high level gamma and a low level beta

Level 9 beta:
pros: combo
More useful for getting away if you’re being focused

Cons: can steal but it’s harder and buggy
Range isn’t as big as gamma

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I think when you’re in scrims it’s better to go gamma 7 before beta 7 because your whole goal is to never let them get close enough to you to fight

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Plus in scrims you’re going to want to steal and not put yourself at risk

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But unless you’re playing a super sweaty kurogiri hide in a corner and steal, it’s better to go beta 7 first

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Gamma 7 is better early game scrims but I think beta 7 might better late game scrims

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Idk they’re kinda both important later on that’s kinda my thoughts though there’s pros and cons to both although personally I always do beta 7 first but that’s because I’m not in scrims mode

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To capitalize off gamma 7 you need a triple stacks if you do get in trouble they can support you and if you steal someone they can capitalize off of your prey

robust cairn
eager umbra
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is why I like beta 7 first

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ppreciate your response tho

wide fractal
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People who don’t actually engage in team fights and work 90% though gamma

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The rest is stealth to use their SA

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It’s a boring suboptimal playstyle imo but a semi viable

eager umbra
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Testing out Shinso sa on special tuning slot for Kurogiri

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Not sure if I like it but it kinda guarantees the alpha a bit more at least

fluid escarp
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g9 becomes more viable if u do the no steal tech. also its better for coordinated team and scrims.
3v3 u can gamma to knock and hurt people while they approach or to stop it. thats the main idea

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and u can kinda afk a lot more in good spots while team covers

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but u cant make as much mistakes. I think it might be as good tbh if u know wat ur doing

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aslo the reload i think is more on gamma in a sense

toxic hazel
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not optimal for LP gains, but in terms of winning/giving your team lp I think it's optimal

eager umbra
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ok I see the value in gamma 9

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makes yourself available for rez more easily and alpha poke can be pretty effective with the alpha buff nowadays

robust cairn
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€

eager umbra
robust cairn
eager umbra
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I get up to 75 per alpha even when they're running

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very common that I end up shield breaking with a full charge at lvl 9 gamma

robust cairn
eager umbra
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yes

robust cairn
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And 4 hits feels like you’re playing against a noob who doesn’t know how to roll

eager umbra
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3-4 hits

robust cairn
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I don’t think a good player would be getting hit that many times. Plus if you’re that good with alphas then the normal alpha is definetly better

eager umbra
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not really because I don't have the view that the gamma alpha can get

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and I expose myself

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spam rolling is effective though I can still get hits on them just less frequently

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and I can usually hit the beta with my last charge and send them far away with my beta if they tp

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is a sneak attack like you said but it happens very fast

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and I got that last bit of dmg because he opted to shoot instead of roll

robust cairn
eager umbra
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ya

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dont get much use out of my gamma till lvl 7 combat wise

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is too short

robust cairn
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Level 9 gamma alpha has a bigger hitbox it’s easier to hit though

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Without level 9 idkkkk

eager umbra
fluid escarp
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I rue the day kuro becomes beta and not buggy. I hope devs change how his gamma works if so

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Cuz we fina have g9 maxers as its the easiest way to be rewarded with least risk T.T

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Also I never use alpha in gamma. I prolly should

eager umbra
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and also the way to be rewarded with least risk

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cause with gamma beta it's like a 50/50 whether they'll get tped

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then what, it only does like 130 dmg on base at lvl 9

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no guarantee you'll hit your betas either once they've recovered

eager umbra
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also sorry kaje I am using your tech for nefarious misdeeds on monoma šŸ˜”

eager umbra
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man

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a lot of kurogiri gameplay just feels like bullying if its a 1v1 and you kidnapped someone with a beta

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or if they dont know where you are and you're just spamming alpha/beta at them

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kinda impossible for them to fight back

silent nebula
eager umbra
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tried ranked for the first time in weeks with kurogiri

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won but it was not pretty

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console teammates who although notebook lvl 30 just kept running off and never stuck together

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and that circle enclosed so fast

eager umbra
iron owl
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Can we talk about the bugs for this man. I do his gamma into beta and sometimes it doesn’t dmg and sometimes it does and his beta stun is so inconsistent. I hope that the devs read this.

delicate haven
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I really wanna know for any Kurogiri mains

What is the balance of Playing actively vs supporting from a far

I want to Go into fights with my team But I always feel like Im way more useful staying out of the fight and being ready to save my teammates but doing that I feel like I let them down so What's the balence there

eager umbra
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You initiate fights on your own terms via tps

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Sometimes the tp will work sometimes it won’t

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You can also try being on a tower close to your team fight and raining alphas down

delicate haven
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How far exactly does Kuro's alpha go?

eager umbra
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Test it yourself

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Depends on level I think

hazy ridge
robust cairn
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Life of a kurogiri main

ripe nova
wide fractal
robust cairn
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Ps even kurogiris model bugs out ā˜ ļøā˜ ļøā˜ ļø

naive granite
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It looks very sus sometimes

robust cairn
fluid escarp
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for like a month on the airmelee tracking for sure

hazy ridge
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I think I was one step away from creating hollow purple

naive granite
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😭

wide fractal
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I LOVE WHEN KUROGIRI BUGS MAKE ME LOSE A RANK GAME AND LOOK STUPID

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ITS SOOOOOOOOOOOOO GREAT

robust cairn
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I am the kurogiri bug guy

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Btw @eager umbra I discovered a new bug

wide fractal
robust cairn
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Ledge clipping as kurogiri can create two gammas for you so you can have a shadow clone gamma

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And I think it can’t be popped since technically it doesn’t exist

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So you can intimidate people idk if you’d call that useful

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But also if you don’t realize you ledge clipped your character will keep walking and you’ll prob get killed

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That’s the only bug that has an arguable positive impact.

robust cairn
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I’ll send it in a sec

robust cairn
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ledge clipping

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I was literalkly just talking about it

wide fractal
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I literally just got that

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But that bug sucks

robust cairn
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if u press gamma again youll have a second gamma

wide fractal
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I have to play in third person

robust cairn
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u have to press gamma again

wide fractal
#

Also, does anyone else accidentally get like big damage off their gamma portal sometimes?

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It mostly happens on flesh

robust cairn
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Ig in that instance kurogiri bugs actually helped

wide fractal
wide fractal
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Because you’re really good honestly

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And ā€œreally goodā€ is under selling it

robust cairn
robust cairn
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im mid

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midgiri at best

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but I think its through playing solo q tbh

eager umbra
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it is

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my average teammate are notebook lvl 5

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i leave every time

robust cairn
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the more u can learn to not rely on your teammates

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the better kurogiri you will be

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because youll win your 1v1s

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its incredible important that a kurogiri knows how to duel

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also kurogiri is very reliant on knowing how everyone else plays

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you have to know where theyll be before theyre there

robust cairn
wide fractal
robust cairn
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I knew exactly where that monoma would be without having to see him

wide fractal
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Because as SOON AS I DO ANYTHING THEY FALL

robust cairn
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Kurogiri cant constantly be in a safe spot

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but he can get to a safe spoot in 5 seconds

wide fractal
eager umbra
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safe spot strategy fails as soon as the circle closes in

wide fractal
robust cairn
wide fractal
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The amount of times I teleport a way to teleport right into another team is sad

eager umbra
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either use the falling portal tech to heal relatively safely or find a tree to do it in by using your gamma to position in

eager umbra
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and try stick close to the storm

wide fractal
robust cairn
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my gamma is used for movement or killing

eager umbra
robust cairn
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Ill scout if im playing scrims

wide fractal
eager umbra
robust cairn
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beta is super hard at long range

eager umbra
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just look at your area when you take your gamma up

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takes 2-3 seconds

robust cairn
wide fractal
eager umbra
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unless you're only using it mid combat and in that case sure

wide fractal
robust cairn
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a kurogiri can be snuck up on

robust cairn
robust cairn
wide fractal
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Also the cilp right before that was the coolest

robust cairn
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I havent even scratched the surface of the kurogiri gods

wide fractal
robust cairn
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they dont exist

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kurogiri is too inconsistent

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but there is a pinacle that no one has reached as kurogiri

wide fractal
robust cairn
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bc hes simply too inconsistent

robust cairn
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šŸ˜‚

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btw that clip i showed u was a bug showcase

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LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

wide fractal
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All of those bugs happend to me by the way

robust cairn
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theyre not my good clips

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im making a compilation of good clips rn though

wide fractal
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I would genuinely be throwing my controller after that and booting up a different game

robust cairn
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LMAO I SHOULD SHOW U SOMETHING

wide fractal
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That was sinful… Shiozaki

robust cairn
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HOLD ON LMAOOOOOOO

toxic hazel
robust cairn
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but yes i sniped that monoma through a tree šŸ’”

robust cairn
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I messed up the clip I wanted to die

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but i broke the kiris ankles lmao

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bro got twisted up

wide fractal
robust cairn
robust cairn
eager umbra
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just won 2 back to back 1v3s lol

wide fractal
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Put up the controller

Hang up your keyboard

You’re done

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You got me to feel bad for a twice player

robust cairn
eager umbra
wide fractal
eager umbra
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the second group was kinda noobish tbf

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one sec am uploading it

robust cairn
wide fractal
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Into the ground

robust cairn
eager umbra
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if u can learn to consistently send people into the storm its pretty good for lightening your load

wide fractal
robust cairn
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bullying the little timmys frfr

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thats my job

eager umbra
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you didnt see the end part where I just picked of the shiggy with my gamma and he couldnt do nothing

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deku ran intot he storm to try grab shoto's card and I just picked him off with my alpha

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I do prefer harder opponents which I could do ranked but im not a big fan of ranked solo queue lol

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higher chance of hackers too

wide fractal
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All of you are bullies and one day your sins will catch up to you…

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You, me, school yard, now

(1 v 1 me)

robust cairn
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oh this is unranked??

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booooo

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booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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im disapointed in you

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I thought you were cool

eager umbra
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I'm not playing against zen clan 3 stacks if I don't have to

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I can have harder opponents without them being controller aim assisted 3 stack sweats

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especially when im solo queue

robust cairn
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not in uranked you cant

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I solo q all the time

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im nearly 100% solo q

eager umbra
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I meet some pretty good opponents in solo queue

robust cairn
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dont be a baby go to ranked

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youre not a solo q player

eager umbra
robust cairn
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youre an unranked player

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theres a difference

eager umbra
robust cairn
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say unranked

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šŸ’€

eager umbra
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solo queue unranked player

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and a solo queue ranked player

robust cairn
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booooooooooooooooooooooooo

robust cairn
eager umbra
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come get me out of unranked lobbies if you care so much bro

robust cairn
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but shame on you for bullying the little timmys

wide fractal
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I’m still trying to get to expert

eager umbra
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i cant bully the little jimmies trying to get to ace

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im nice like that

wide fractal
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But after losing with myst man twice because of bugs I rage swapped

robust cairn
robust cairn
robust cairn
eager umbra
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I could also probably carry you to ace

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like mirio you're pretty much guaranteed to get top 3 last teams with kurogiri

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a good one

eager umbra
wide fractal
eager umbra
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ill play monoma

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take a kendo alpha

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and beta beta beta kendo alpha 2x

wide fractal
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I’m training with assault deku

eager umbra
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so about 500+ dmg tod

wide fractal
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It’s like trying to carry a house

eager umbra
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i play solo queue unranked

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i know how hard it is to carry someone

wide fractal
#

You might both literally and figuratively have to carry me

robust cairn
robust cairn
glad cargo
eager umbra
eager umbra
glad cargo
eager umbra
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you eu or na even

robust cairn
robust cairn
glad cargo
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Aye man, as a kuro player, kuro gotta go firstšŸ˜‚

eager umbra
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yup

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thats my philosophy too

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after kuro my top priority list is cementoss, mt lady, strike kendo, strike shiggy and monoma

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not necessarily in that order

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and thats for when the circles closing in

eager umbra
#

the art of bamboozling

eager umbra
robust cairn
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guys I did it

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my first video

long pelican
silent nebula
marsh anchor
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Brilliant move

wide fractal
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I CANT DO ANYTHING WITH THIS CHARACTER WITHOUT A GLICH OR SOME BS

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THE STUPID LOS BUG

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MY PORTALS GETTING STUCK ON NOTHING

toxic hazel
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the portals getting stuck on nothing always cracks me up

robust cairn
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Fun fact

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If an ibara rezzs you the vibes above you will block your portals

gloomy shard
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we are actually the #1 aim assist haters

robust cairn
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I am

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I spam report 240 frame aim assist users on pc with a macro

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You don’t hate them as much as I do

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And even if you did you don’t act upon it like I do

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My defense being how I am supposed to know whether it’s controller or aimbot

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Shinra and I have different methods of going about things I get results instantaneously on a low scale and he prays that the devs fix aim assist after 12 seasons

eager umbra
gloomy shard
eager umbra
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will take your word for it

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slightly slanted floors are the bane of my existence

eager umbra
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@robust cairn this is what I meant with monoma not going into the portals btw

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were we playing on NA servers? maybe that was it

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tested it in training mode and it seemed fine enough

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mighta been because of the slope too but not sure

hazy ridge
fluid escarp
robust cairn
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But you’re inconsistent

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Not by choice

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But by character design

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That inconsistency means you’re not guaranteed everything

fluid escarp
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šŸ—æ

eager umbra
robust cairn
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You never when or why something will fail

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You hit someone with a beta how do you know whether to shoot another one where they should come out or where they were when you shot them?

eager umbra
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I do though

robust cairn
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How can you account for that

eager umbra
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they still got stunned for a sec

robust cairn
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Where though

eager umbra
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unless they were near max range

robust cairn
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Where they should come out where they were

eager umbra
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where I shot them originally

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Even if they don't come out they'll still be in the same spot

robust cairn
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But what if they come through your portal

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You come dropping down shoot a beta in the air you hit do you aim upward to hit the target or straight forward to hit where you hit them before

eager umbra
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then I beta or alpha them like I was going to do anyways

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I usually hope they actually come through my portal with normal betas

robust cairn
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But you can’t account for that because you have no idea whether it’ll actually happen ā˜ ļø

eager umbra
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bro

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it doesn't matter if they come through or not

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I don't have to change my aim regardless of whether they do

robust cairn
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Yes it does that’s my combo that fails if they don’t come through 😭

eager umbra
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because they'll still be where im aiming my crosshair

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unless it shoots them above me in which case I'll adjust my aim slightly

eager umbra
robust cairn
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I have like 50 clips I could grab but I’m too lazy

eager umbra
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i know what you're talking about

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it's happened to me

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I still keep firing my beta

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in fact I fired a second one after my first failed and it tped him

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even if it didnt the dmg still hit

robust cairn
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We shouldn’t account for spaghetti coding. We shouldn’t have to do that or give the devs any way to weasel their way out of fixing kurogiri

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Btw @eager umbra did u email the devs

eager umbra
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na been busy

robust cairn
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Do it at some point we need as many emails as possible

eager umbra
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mm

eager umbra
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well im shadowbanned

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really still don't know if its reporting or cause I leave lobbies before the game starts

robust cairn
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Leaving lobbies in the lobby does nothing

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But if you’re playing unranked as kurogiri and bodying people like you showed me that’s why

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I’m not gonna say you deserved it cause you didn’t

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But you should’ve expected that this would happen

eager umbra
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Why are you assuming?

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And even if I wasn't no I shouldn't expect to get reported for playing good in unranked lmao

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Contrary to popular belief there are a lot of good players in unranked

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and I bully similar skilled people to me because kurogiri gamma is stupid

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and people don't know what iframes are and how to use them

robust cairn
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And bad players are more likely to report good players in unranked

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That’s just logical

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But if you’re playing ranked idk

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It’s possible one of your teammates you left in the pre lobby got mad at you and reported you

eager umbra
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lost this obv but kaje's portal strategy working well

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need to do this more, strike shiggy been a menace recently to me

toxic hazel
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im tryna get as good as you are with the sending people away tech

toxic hazel
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that and the "fall into beta while using gamma to send someone to tartarus" tech are stuff im tryna get more consistent and faster with

long pelican
toxic hazel
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sure was, who were you?

long pelican
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Ibara

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U came in clutch with the early revive

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and we clutched the barely winnable fighht againt red deku denki and the random nejire

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who was third partying

toxic hazel
toxic hazel
fluid escarp
eager umbra
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also ty I hide in trees with nejire so try to do the same with kuro to heal

fluid escarp
# eager umbra tbh I don’t think I was thinking when it came to short beta but it might make it...

makes sense.
momentum helps with that as well. the less horizonal momentum/speed you have, the more it becomes straight. so basically as long as you dont enter a portal and instantly do it: wait a second, itll be more straight.
also ofc aiming in the direction your going/facing helps. and if youdont look straight down you can compensate
ofc shorter distances allow for more "speed" to be had when going for loops that loop.

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i wont show a vid (already did that and i really dislike how kiri steals in general) but his gamma stance into portal is way easier now.

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dont need the jump setup fr

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man, so much i wana make a guide on. sucks he is so anti fun / polarizing. if he never was going to be fixed then id make another one.

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or if they proper balance him

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might make a suggestion for discord since apparently devs are going to monitor it more.

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leli asked me how i would balance him out (his portals really) im curious on what yall would do

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b4 i post

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id like 2 hear

eager umbra
eager umbra
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I would take that trade though, works better for my strategy as lekurogiri knows

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I would prefer gamma beta to still teleport cause it wouldn’t make much sense not to tbh

fluid escarp
fluid escarp
robust cairn
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I don’t think gamma should teleport that’s the most bs part of his kit

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You can get teleported across the map and jumped?

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Beta has range but not like that

eager umbra
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So your allies can travel through

robust cairn
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Ofc

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Shooting a portal and it vanishing into thin air doesn’t make sense

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But then it doesn’t make sense that it couldn’t teleport enemies…

eager umbra
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I mean kinda does

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He shoots portal and the portal teleports them

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Same concept with the beta

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except gamma is op because of the range from travelling far away with the gamma before firing

robust cairn
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No but why would the gamma not teleport but the beta would

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At the end of the day it’s a beta whether you shoot it out of you gamma or just regularly

eager umbra
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so it should do the same thing as the beta

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so that’s why what you ask for is tricky

robust cairn
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Yes but then he’s broken af

eager umbra
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I think this problem is so rare that it’s not a problem rn

robust cairn
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And if you make him have more knockdown on his beta he will immediately get nerfed again because people will start playing the arguably worse kurogiri which is steal and jump

eager umbra
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How many times have you been tped from the other side of the map and ganked

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Because me personally, never

robust cairn
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I think it’s way worse for a kurogiri to gamma you into his team and you get jumped than it is for a kurogiri to do a 400 dmg combo to you

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Atleast with the 400 dmg you survive

eager umbra
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yeah not for long lol

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you still have like 50-60% of your gamma left

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that will do another 100+ damage

robust cairn
eager umbra
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that can kill most characters

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it may not be a tod but in 99% of cases that guy ain’t escaping

robust cairn
robust cairn
eager umbra
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If a good player gets stolen into a room with three people in it idc how god tier he is he’s dead

eager umbra
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cause he can just instantly pop it back up again

robust cairn
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I’ve been quadruple betad and gotten away

eager umbra
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you don’t lose much charge

robust cairn
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If you know how the kurogiri will play you can escape

eager umbra
robust cairn
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Then let’s nerf both the gamma and beta why not

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I don’t see how most of the roster escape a 60% gamma when you’re on top of them

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With them having around 120-200 hp

eager umbra
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In the first place though I don’t usually go for 3x beta anymore

robust cairn
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10/20 seconds cooldown is big

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and usually not worth the trade off unless you grabbed them from away

robust cairn
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It’s rough to give kurogiri nerfs until his bugs are fixed though

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yup

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I think his beta needs a damage nerf and knock after 3 betas. I think enemies shouldn’t be able to use kurogiri portals unless it’s a direct impact, I don’t think gamma should pull ever. I think the special action needs a nerfed range

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But then that may be overdoing it

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That may kill kurogiri but honestly with 0 bugs that seems like a good trade off

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That’s like 5 nerfs for 15 bug fixes

eager umbra
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Beta needs a knock after 2 betas

robust cairn
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Heck no

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We’re done talking

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200 dmg combo?

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Nopeeeee

eager umbra
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Enemies not being able to use our portals is kind of weird

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That eliminates counter play

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Like the portal heal Strat for example

robust cairn
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The counter play to this is to enter the portal so it closes