Kurogiri

[toxic hazel]

also

how do yall get a ton of ranked points?

i find myself usually sub 3k dmg, and despite reviving/team shielding and whatnot, usually get more points on a dmg character

what tunings are y'all rocking as well? i can't use what i want ATM due to skins, but i feel like fast replenish and maybe overhaul/red kirishima might be goated (im not looking at the tuning list and im a lil new to em so i can't think of all of em)

i see some people using the twice one but i dont find myself stealing downs too often LOL

[raw ivy]

If you are going to rank with kurogiri you gotta be insanely good with him cause he doesn't do damage and mostly support

I suggest to choose a stronger character to play ranked with

I myself play kurogiri only in casual and same as you the max I got was 3.5k damage 7kos

So I think the problem is the character

[toxic hazel]

i do wish they'd buff support playstyles point gain if that is the case, but i won't get my hopes up LOL

[eager umbra]

hes support but he can definitely do damage

I recommend watching the 41m guide done by itzkaje

[analog gorge]

cool cool

[raw ivy]

I did and thanks to that I feel more dominant in matches but still
The dude has one combo which burns through his most important cooldowns so until you reload: no chasing, no running, no way to deal damage except from air melee combo or alpha which doesn't work

I didn't say he is a bad character but he is bad damage wise

And btw the beta still sometimes doesn't tp them to loop combo which sucks

[analog gorge]

Hi

[toxic hazel]

ay bro cover to cover

[toxic hazel]

hello kurogiri from my hero academia

[toxic hazel]

def possible but feels like by nature of his character he's destined to lower LP gain

[analog gorge]

💀

tomura shigaraki I’m kill

tomura shigaraki I killed him

[toxic hazel]

lowkey how does the "used item" and "items acquired" even work

surely just picking up items from the ground doesn't give points, or people would surely spam drop/pickup, or at least drop to pick up new stuff

and items used no shot is just 6, i feel like whenever i'm playing it's always way less than i used

[analog gorge]

My app

app my

[eager umbra]

probably every new item?

and I mean even as you can see it doesn't award much points anyway

[pastel mango]

I usually do long beta to escape. I've had poor luck with enemies following me through my short betas.
If the enemy is especially persistent, another thing you can do is long beta, then gamma immediately after you go through the portal. You can place your gamma inside the exit portal and then teleport to it once the enemy follows you through. You'll then pass back through the portal before it closes automatically due to the enemy going through it.
You end up back in your original location, while the enemy is stranded in the distance.

[toxic hazel]

i will definitely have to try the last tech, that's a great idea, thank you so much

[pastel mango]

Here's an example clip, for reference.

[hazy ridge]

If only the portal closed after you entered it, so people can't just chase you instantly

[long pelican]

Its always twice last zone

[serene pollen]

I'm so confused on how the twice fell for it considering he could see where the portal was aimed at but nevertheless a good job indeed

[simple phoenix]

What some reliable Kuro Combos feels like I tuned him for nothing

[eager umbra]

go watch the itzkaje video

but you can chain beta into anything

beta x 3 + beta gamma

[toxic hazel]

^

[pastel mango]

I'm guessing either he thought I was low and going out there to storm heal, and he wanted to finish me off before that, or he didn't think that far ahead and all he saw was his target escaping.

[edgy ice]

That's actually the greatest tech

For a second I thought it was hard because you explained it in text, but it's really easy

[analog gorge]

H

I’m

I’m

I’m

I’m sorry

I’m sorry

I’m

I’m

[crystal ridge]

Hello Sorry, i am Luxurian

I Think the Game didnt like this Escape:

[hazy ridge]

I do hope kurogiri gets another outfit soon, he got kinda scammed with his selection on his pur.

You basically only had;
Forced green and red (absolutely not terrible since overhaul is so good on him)
Forced blue and yellow
Then double purple.

I forgot what his default PUR one was but suspect it being much better

[eager umbra]

I mean not bad options for him?

He can run double sa reload or something to do with sisterly and then duplication or perception

[toxic hazel]

i do hope he gets more skins (=

blows not being able to tune him super well until banner comes back

[fluid escarp]

i thought it was ball being near

for no gamma to work. im not so sure now its working not as often as I thought it would when at a distance

ik sometimes it misses and they go into it quicky. so it seems like it should damage, especially since on release they almost always took dmg.

since how it was made (shot 2 portals in a way so i think the 2nd invisiable one would always proc the dmg)

[hazy ridge]

What?

[crystal ridge]

A Kurogiri Nightmare and my First Beta Loop Combo

[fluid escarp]

some clip ideas for yall.

2nd vid works only when the ports on the ground. It really isnt hard to pull off as much as I thought

easier when they are farther.as long as they arnt point blank it aint so hard (came back on accident)

[fluid escarp]

tried without melee and its too hard. you often need to aim at them from where you would hit them after you go through port , so you end up missing a lot.

also idk if real game portals last as long so ill test that out

[worthy violet]

Wo your Kurogiri is amazing

I consider my own to be very good but yours is better I’d say

[fluid escarp]

nah, its just knowledge dif in general with him. I only actually use a couple things with him as I really dont feel like thinking what I should do at each moment. And my aim is average

[worthy violet]

I mean, your knowledge is probably next level

And if my aim is only slightly better than you I think yours would still be better because the difference of knowledge

[fluid escarp]

I post all the knowledge I have lol. Maybe like 2 things im 2 lazy to type that are minor but the funementals are on the guide so anything that I didnt cover is only applying what ive shared , what people know. And i update it in the comments to try to include those small details as well.

I appreciate the compliment

i say the only thing that really would make me stick out to other good kuris is I send people away with portals more often -like going for combos that put them on the ground for setup / play in storm since Im using toga hp tunings often (and he can just leave storm easily as well) / letting go when they get hit to be more likely to grab them (tbh i STILL dont do this much and not sure if after the patch it even is a thing. hard to test since bots always get stolen now)
I dont think you too far with a little practice from a good kuro.
What separates bad ones from good ones is probably using amo and being vunerable (bad placement so you cant stall if you miss) / not using loop tech to pot / not using port to put themselves on ground quickly when teamate is down to save and in general being ready to rez / not using port to close the last port so no chasing and in general any port escaping tech/ not using pings on port or in general.

[eager umbra]

I’ve watched some of your video and the only thing I didn’t really get is how to portal someone far away

Will have to rewatch it but wasn’t sure the mechanics behind that

because it sounds really useful for storm and stuff but the portal isn’t that delayed

[hazy ridge]

Hold down the beta, it goes for significantly longer, the portal is deceptive as it'll go further than it shows.

The issue with the portal is that it can get caught on stuff easily, get interrupted pretty quickly, and enemies can enter it for free, meaning there's only a tiny chance you'll ever escape someone.
Unless you manage to make an escape portal and have 1 extra so when you go through you just press beta again, and delete it but you gotta hope then don't just follow you instantly

[toxic hazel]

given that you can long beta into fast beta, someone following you ASAP should be pretty much impossible

you can always beta, then walk back if they instant follow

or do the beta/hold gamma and prepare to swap back

[eager umbra]

I know that… I’ve posted videos here of me before using long beta.

It still isn’t as delayed to let me do what itzkaje did in the video, but I’ll look again later like I said.

[rose pawn]

@fluid escarp
Just to let you know, you were in one of my lobbies last night. Ggs with your Kuro, you played well 👍

[raven ember]

@Itzkaje what's your tuning build for kuro. Im currently using the red outfit and running double hp attack power on it. Im curious what your build tho, bc i had seen you hit 122 off your beta which is pretty high

[fluid escarp]

they were embrittled is why. I run toga/zawa and yellow/blue but dont personally use sisterly

[hazy ridge]

I use sisterly/perception (to track after melee) but
Under all normal circumstances you'd probably want Overhaul and maybe Kota finder or Shinso

I'm heavily hoping for a new costume soon for kurogiri, to get some more variety in options but that's my suggestion

[fluid escarp]

ill test on 60hz next, but 240/unlimited when they are downed, it likes not sending them. It COULD be cause im not aiming it well enough/hill (in the past this happened sometimes when not aimed well i rememer) but ive noticed when i melee them towards it, they still go through

[fluid escarp]

did in on 60hz fine so prolly just disapears when portal near them but not on

[pastel mango]

Neat, very smooth tech.

[toxic hazel]

if i EVER got hit with this in a match I'm livid bro, this is so smooth, esp with the come back

its admittedly a teeny bit disappointing that most of kurogiri's damage is in his beta, it feels like it reduces the viability of fire tech

if I'm hitting beta it's SOOOO much damage, that anything else hitting beta gets you has to compete with the full beta combo

[hazy ridge]

I really do want to play kurogiri better, but it's so difficult to try and effectively run from someone unless they fail to recover after you beta into the sky.

I need escape tips

I can normally keep his beta loop down no problem, but it's when I need to escape from a situation that things quickly go to heck

[final vector]

How strong is Shinso's special tuning on Kurogiri?

[eager umbra]

If you have 2 betas you should escape from someone no problem I think unless it’s like a 1v2 or 1v3

beta then beta again to close the portal

use gamma beta if you have to go further

Turning corners to portal first is necessary against characters like Aizawa and Shinso though of course

[fluid escarp]

22:15 on vid

Looking straight up tap beta is good.

After you go through a portal you can always long beta into gamma portal TP to get into it/
gamma beta TP

And lastly angle yourself againts a wall and gamma beta to make the portal spawn on top of you to escape. Vid shows how to make it consistent.

And like shadow showed, come back through own portal

Once they've entered

And if you go into storm they might not chase

Also just using the ball to escape since you have super armor you can tank some hits. There's a bug in vid that helps escape too

[hazy ridge]

Perception on Kurogiri is pretty helpful.

[eager umbra]

Perception didn’t really do anything for you in that first clip

[hazy ridge]

Pretty much true, but let me know if he was going down or up after he managed to escape me.
I use it mainly against Mirios and ochacos who can zip away much easier

[serene pollen]

I'm surprised no one answered this question yet but I can only assume the brainwash effect will allow u to hit beta easier since the opponent will be too slow to dodge well but i haven't tried it yet

[pastel mango]

It'd probably make it much easier to land more ticks of each alpha, as well.

[fluid escarp]

does brain wash make moves have slower startup?
also once i got hit with brainwash on knockdown, when I got up it felt like a stun. I was on cem and couldnt alpha in time

[eager umbra]

If it’s anything like the Shinso SA the character himself has, any tick of dmg will result in a 100% knockdown.

[pastel mango]

The tuning isn't equivalent to Shinso's SA, it's equivalent to his gamma.

[eager umbra]

Then there’s the reason I’ve seen no one using it lol

You aren’t getting off anything but an air melee with kurogiri unless you bring them right to you with a beta

in which case you have better alternatives for dmg and even then you wouldn’t need shinso’s brainwash to hit at least 2 ticks

[serene pollen]

True but most people are playing characters that can stay in the air/ go into the air so if u hit them with brainwash chances are they will immediately use whatever mobility move to go into the air which in that case kurogiri's alpha sucks in the air so beta would be more versatile for both situations 🤔

[hazy ridge]

I wish Tsuyu's tuning didn't deactivate upon doing... Literally anything, otherwise it probably would be decent on Kurogiri.

[toxic hazel]

definitely wish you could rez or loot, but then again, I'm not sure how much I want invisible people running around lol

if you can do those specifically it'd be fire

really cool buff would be if the first 2-3 seconds you couldn't lose the invis, so you wouldn't accidentally blow it, and so you could do atleast 1 thing with it guarnteed

[toxic hazel]

you guys ever end up making a portal with gamma-beta while against a wall, get ported, but the portal doesn't let you go back?

wonder if its replicatable, if there'd be any utility in it

[serene pollen]

I wonder if it'll work on Mr compress when he tries his special action

[serene pollen]

Yea sometimes that happens a one way portal in a way and there's sometimes a portal goes through a building wall entirely making the portal come out from the other side, mostly happens in buildings with an actual inside

[toxic hazel]

oh sick, ty

praying for the day that you come out of gamma facing the direction of your gamma, and not the direction kurogiri faced

[toxic hazel]

god bro kurogiri is so much fun

i do wish they didnt cap support points at 300, i wish i had a skin for em, and I PRAY to be able to hit the nasty tech like kaje

but man is just one of the most fun characters any game has ever made

[eager umbra]

he's fun though I do wish his big damaging combo wasn't just spamming beta

kinda suffers a bit from the nejire problem there

except nejire did less damage with it and even then she got nerfed into the ground for it lol

kidnapping people however is very fun even if kind of busted

[toxic hazel]

kidnapping is so fun

I honestly don't mind someone's "damaging" combo being super simple/easy, even though it might be tilting for enemies I don't take a ton of pleasure from mechanical combos
my only issue with it is that it gets rid of his escape lol

[hazy ridge]

Oh absolutely, I'll sometimes just fly around with a max gamma in solos, just looking around and looking for fights, hovering above them and then gamma-ing the downed body away

[analog gorge]

Bro

[silent nebula]

So, anyone else having some issues after the update? 0 damage betas, betas teleporting people when they feel like it, sometimes teleports them where there isn't even a portal? I knew these bugs were around pre-update, but they feel even worse after the patch

[hazy ridge]

I've noticed times where it'll actually teleport me to them, and they'll just get staggered instead.

Sucks a lot when I'm trying to snipe a member of someone's team and I suddenly get dropped in the middle of an AFO, strike Dabi, and Deku team.

[hazy ridge]

It definitely was game ruiner on occasion, beta is just really unpredictable but extremely strong when it works.

[raw ivy]

I really noticed that beta doesn't teleport, only does damage and staggers them in place

[silent nebula]

Yeah, that's the issue I've been having

[eager umbra]

if beta doesnt teleport them its likely because they were in the air when you hit them

though sometimes it teleports them if they're in the air

not sure what dictates it exactly but if they're in the air its less likely for them to be tped

[raw ivy]

Mostly they are on the ground when I notice it
Though I think it has nothing to do whether they are on the ground or not

I feel like it teleports them 25% of time overall

[eager umbra]

I teleport them pretty consistently on the ground

so idk

[toxic hazel]

might be a refresh rate issue, i wonder what settings yall both playing on?

[eager umbra]

I play 120

use to do higher but no point for me anyway since my monitor only goes up to 144

and kurogiri use to only work at lower framerates

along with some other characters stuff

[silent nebula]

Some were, and I knew about that one, but others were on the ground and just got up like I coughed on them

[toxic hazel]

not sure if its only in the pregame lobby but when i long beta -> send them away with a portal placed on them, the portal just fizzles out like they take it, but they don't port.

ill have to rewatch the video and see if im messing it up

[raw ivy]

I play on ps

[toxic hazel]

I feel like I've had tons of portals not go through, but its hard for me to tell sometimes if they're on the ground/air orcount hte frequency

[hazy ridge]

It's like 50/50,
Half the time it just doesn't do anything, the other half it's a free yoink.

[All of my kidnapped victims]

[eager umbra]

Might be a Nintendo switch thing

[brazen linden]

Man I wish kurogiri could give the player wine

[hazy ridge]

Thank you game, how did you know I just wanted to swap places with them

[eager umbra]

up against a wall moment

[hazy ridge]

Defeated by walls.

This Kurocan't keep happening

[wide fractal]

Okay so I had a talk with the rng gods and they said it’s finally time for me to win today

So they gave me kurogiri ||I wanted overhaul||

So how do I play him?

[eager umbra]

https://youtu.be/79XVSttaPls

[wide fractal]

Before I say anything, is this from you?

[eager umbra]

No

[wide fractal]

Phew

wtf is this thumbnail

[eager umbra]

it doesn't matter

[wide fractal]

Ik ik

Just funny

[wide fractal]

Kurogiri guide:

Bug

Bug

Bug

Bug

Big

Is this hollow knight?

How do I kidnap people? I was kind of getting confused in the video.

[eager umbra]

They’re just techs

If you want to get the basics for him probably should’ve went into training mode and trying him out before watching that tbh

it tells how you to teleport people if you read his skills ingame

[toxic hazel]

holding down beta, it also works while in gamma

[wide fractal]

I have come to the realization I’m am too weak and dull minded it for this character

Is alpha takes a lot of thought to use

I have teleported myself into the storm and embarrassing amount of times with beta in end game

And My mind malfunctions whenever I use gamma

But his SA is my favorite

[wide fractal]

What level of path do I go?

[eager umbra]

Personally I do b7 g9 b9 but might also start trying g9 b9

depends on your play style

[fluid escarp]

small example and inspiration to maybe help.
he is fun when he works. if they fix bugs will feel a major difference.
i still put myself into the storm late game but youll get better.

[wide fractal]

This cilp is just evil

[pastel mango]

You can force-warp someone during iframes after knocking them down?
I never knew that, this is gamechanging.

[fluid escarp]

Someone didn't watch my vid

Even shouted you out on that tech lol. Surprised u didn't know

[pastel mango]

It was on my to-do list...

[wide fractal]

The world knew I’d be too powerful with overhaul data

[hazy ridge]

Im tempted to tune a costume with overhaul since I have 200+ overhaul data from my matches but I also want to hold out hope he gets a costume soon, that has decent tunings.

[placid slate]

yo did anyone test tech denki tuning on kuro?

[eager umbra]

What combo do you think it would enable?

For a gamma beta to teleport someone while also keeping them still maybe?

[robust anchor]

When I tried it I only found it getting in the way more than anything. And the stun itself makes it so you cant do a full combo

[hazy ridge]

Since I like to add a melee to my combo, I tend to run sisterly (for defense) but have been tempted by Shinso so I can hit them, and have them stunned/slowed in place while my betas recharge

[eager umbra]

I really want to try fine tuning the kidnapping build with kurogiri

Think gamma 9 then beta 7 might be the play assuming I am kidnapping them at low hp anyway

And that I want to be crossmap

Though rn since I play pc I am kinda scared to go on with that hacker exploit making it so you can’t play the game on your account if they choose to target you

[robust anchor]

Its actually terrifying and if anything ever deserved an emergency maintenance in this game it would be that. I cant believe nothing has been done yet

[eager umbra]

Yeah is sad

[placid slate]

not sure

if i had tech denki i would test it

people say it doesnt work

but nobody really tried i think

i dont think it will be that good anyway

[placid slate]

what i dont like using gamma beta is that its still bugged and it portals you into the enemy sometimes

that killed me a lot of times

but its nice to chase a single tho

[eager umbra]

Only portals you into them if you’re up against a wall

[pastel mango]

You mean a new Kurogiri costume? Do you not have his current PUR?
I wouldn't recommend putting Overhaul's tuning on a common-rarity costume. It's not great value at low levels.

[hazy ridge]

No no, I have it, but I tuned the blue and yellow since I originally didn't have overhaul when he came out

[pastel mango]

Why hope for a future costume then instead of tuning Kurogiri's hero/dangerous PUR with Overhaul?

[hazy ridge]

Because I'm hoping for a purple/green or a blue/green.

Red/purple has uses but unless I'm running Kota finder or Shinso, I'm not getting what I want

[robust anchor]

You dont need the character to use the tuning

[placid slate]

Yea

But not enough data 😭

[placid slate]

Yea walls are terrible

[wide fractal]

????

Can someone explain no tp here?

Also after playing him for a while I can 100% say

I’m in love

My only problems is his bugs

His many bugs

MANY

bugs

[silent nebula]

Hmmm, I've seen this before

Best explanation I've been able to give is

Just sit there and take it, I guess

It's a certified

✨ Ultra Rumble Moment ✨

[wide fractal]

We lost because of this

And he was justifiably angry

Ranked game by the way

Also this is the most painful thing ever

[toxic hazel]

hard to say for this clip but I think if someone is mid grapple they cant be ported

[robust cairn]

the triple gamma is SO CLEAN

[eager umbra]

holy motion blur batman

[silent nebula]

Can't fear your opponent if their blur looks the same as everything else

[wide fractal]

His model is still on the ground though

[toxic hazel]

it's weird too because he wasn't moving, and he wasn't taking damage

i wonder what made him be like that, i'd love to see his POV

[wide fractal]

Why does shiggy have an otherworldly hit box when it comes to my beta

[wide fractal]

Why did they get flung like this?

I’m tired boss…

[hazy ridge]

I'm going to pretend this was preplanned and executed perfectly

[pastel beacon]

👀

[eager umbra]

bro I swear pings are so useless for solo queue

I could spam the waypoint flag 20 times while my momo is dying and she would still run 50 feet away from it

then spam ping her death

nvm thats bar for bar what happened

[long pelican]

u did it too early

watching that pizzed me off

i would be seething

then to have the nerve to spam ping

because they went down

[fluid escarp]

I know a guy who doesn't get bugs with kuro.
He has a 240hz monitor.
I have 144 and bugs often.

[naive granite]

How do you play the perception sisterly kuro build?

[long pelican]

like this https://streamable.com/w2m4h8

https://streamable.com/6x69re

[naive granite]

Oh shi I played w you yesterday

[long pelican]

u did?

[naive granite]

Yea I was deku and there was a shiggy spam pinging all game

[long pelican]

OH YEAH

THEGAME WHERE IT WAS SO HARD TO FOCUS

[naive granite]

And we chased this all might for ten minutes

[long pelican]

straight xD

[naive granite]

I couldn't hear anything but shigi trash 😭

Like you think he needed to dispose of it ?

[long pelican]

I dont think he disposed of it yet

the whole game3

i dont remember how we lost

[naive granite]

I couldn't even tell if he was pinging to fight or stay safe anymore

[long pelican]

i think he was pinging to let us know there was too much trash

and frankly

he wasnt wrong

enemies were everywhere

I was trying to find a safe spot to SA

and they;d just appear

[naive granite]

I just remember no place was safe so I think we just got whittled down

[long pelican]

yeah thats how i remember it

i may have

clipped some thiings

[naive granite]

If shiggy got maxed we cldve probably won tbh tho

He cldve took out his trash mayhaps

[long pelican]

probably, which was also why i was out here hunting for red cards and putting lvls into them to give to shiggy

[naive granite]

Hmm?

[long pelican]

i lied i thought i did

But nothing too epic happened either that or i was too much on high alert

cuz of shiggy

everytime i hear a ping my attention immediately

like changes

[naive granite]

The most epic thing may have been how long allmight lived

[long pelican]

i wouldve clipped the shiggy and his constant warning for trash

[naive granite]

I was stressing too much to clip anything

[long pelican]

i think after that game i started having good games or maybe it was before

when i came across this blue ochaco that brings a tear to my eye

blessed existence i will say first global player buddy i added lmao

i think xd

responds to pings faster than an ipad kid responding to the sound of their ipad going off after waking up

even if its on accident

whoever they are thank u for giving me hope

i can go for ace

[naive granite]

I think you can gl

[long pelican]

https://streamable.com/g6a61g

[hazy ridge]

I just noticed, is this costume bugged for folks or just me?

[pastel mango]

What do you have your framerate in the game set to, though?
My monitor is only 144 Hz, but I have my framerate option in the game set to 200-something (can't remember the number, but whatever the option between 120 and Unlimited is) and I feel like I rarely ever experience bugs with Kurogiri.

[fluid escarp]

Dang. Maybe it's my actually pc settings. I don't use gsync either cause I been having frame issues in general on my thing. Prolly need a new monitor.
I set it to unlimited mainly for kuro

My friend also bugs often though too

[pastel mango]

With the exception of things like vsync/gsync/etc, I don't believe one's monitor should have any impact on the software the PC is running.
The GPU can push however many frames it wants to the monitor, even if the monitor isn't capable of displaying that many.

[fluid escarp]

240 also was tripn me up too if i last recall. I'll do some testing though. Appreciate it.

Edit: I will say before the mini kendo patch he was working fine for me

[silent nebula]

Hmmmm, might not have enough. 9 mil just ain't gonna cut it

[fluid escarp]

yea, i think it is better and just havnt played in a while. But still its prolly not as good as urs for sure. cant steal people when they are in air often. o well

im enjoying his beta buff with dabi revenge strike

i try to run purples at lvl 1

really good for when gamma low

or for rez tbh

think its his most fun build. tried to use togas but its hit or miss. if im potting im prolly getting to pot for green as weell. late game was only time it was good and for 1v2/3 scenerios but its kinda rare

fun when it works

[fluid escarp]

cause ik shadow still hasnt watch the vid yet <,<

[eager umbra]

hows the beta reload buff feeling

[long pelican]

well his beta reload did feel slow

[eager umbra]

and now?

[long pelican]

well i havent

played yet

[eager umbra]

[robust anchor]

Anyone know a way to make your gamma tele not knock down? I know ive done it before accidentally but im not sure how it happened

[fluid escarp]

they have to just happen to take no dmg or walk into it, then it wont knock.

im sick of usless objects like stop signs stopping his beta.

[robust anchor]

Psh i hate things like that with all sorts of moves but yeah 😂 and thanks for the info

[long pelican]

I cant name the number of times that made me sell matches

Namely the ones that dont teleport my target

[long pelican]

a new bug has uhh been revealed idk if anyone had the same issue

but its with the gamma

u get locked out of the camera of ur character

and u cant shoot anything from ut gamma

[toxic hazel]

oh yeah, i've had that a few times

i've had a few different versions of it too

[long pelican]

u can see ur character move

but u cannot get out of gamma

xd

[fluid escarp]

the version i do i just press gamma again, happens when you ledge cancel gamma

side note: example of why to cancel gamma right when press beta (as its going before it lands) able to go through gamma portals

[final vector]

https://d.vxtwitter.com/clchww/status/1921174375144767859

[long pelican]

This is how its done

[long pelican]

Also this is what i meant

[fluid escarp]

does canceling not get u out? I know pressing gamma again does if u have ammo

[long pelican]

Nope ofc ive played kurogiri for this long

Id try

[robust anchor]

Its been there the whole time he's been out. I never had it happen much but usually when it happens your camera is your drone and your movement inputs also affect your character. Its super weird lol

[silent nebula]

I do find it funny how you can grab two people with one charge of Kurogiri's special

[fluid escarp]

another reason his gamma doesnt seem to dmg is because after it "lands" it has to spawn. I think the actual traveling part of gamma doesnt damage (it used to on release) so you can roll it, get taken, and get no dmg basically.

idk how often it doest dmg people in the air though, just getting back into him. Might be a similar case of their hitbox flying too fast and when it spawns, the portal damage part isnt on them.

[eager umbra]

Seems double gamma is still a thing

I should figure out how to replicate that some day

[fluid escarp]

U seen it?

[eager umbra]

In game yeah

from a far away distance

gamma portal hovering above another gamma portal

[fluid escarp]

I thought you meant double dmg.
Not sure what u saying tbh. So 3 portals were up or something?

Or u mean the gamma ball

[eager umbra]

I mean I assume that is how the double damage happens

Two gamma portals controlled by 1 person

And by gamma portals I mean the thing you control and fly around with when you press whatever key it is for gamma

not the gamma beta which leads to a portal

so gamma ball maybe yeah

[eager umbra]

lol

I commend the commitment to that idea

though shoto kinda fumbled with the ice walls

[toxic hazel]

OH NAH THEY HAD A DEMONIC SETUP

[final vector]

THAT WAS A DEVIOUS SET UP

[long pelican]

My vision. Versus you guys and your terrible idea of support kurogiri. I was thinking of this yet you guys couldn't EXECUTE IT.

@pure nebula i mean to this loser right here.

[pure nebula]

Yelling at ItzKaje is quite rude

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/713602189691584614/1166355409527918773/c71bf76c97bc554d0d0803a00266ccebbafff9e364e0aa4b25f32cd27022ca46.gif

[long pelican]

God I dont like u sometimes smh

but that would be unholy of me'

but you know im talking to u duch 😠

[fluid escarp]

We ran that at a tourney recently, except I was cementoss. Shoto ice walls can break easily tbh. If u know the tech behind it then you can circumvent it.

Not as effective when his gamma doesn't steal often. Got like 1 kill like that.

[final vector]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeroUltraRumble/comments/1kqqqiq/kurogiri_tech_clips/?share_id=uH67JB2792JVj3QYiuq_7&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

[ancient flicker]

New MHUR meme

[fluid escarp]

kinda sick

Guys, ima need you to send kuro energy to the devs, just for a brief moment, for them to fix anything and everything about him.

https://tenor.com/view/send-energy-sending-healing-dragon-ball-spirit-bomb-gif-16443313

idk who mentioned it, but praying they fix his look up beta to actually hit where he looks or super close to it if they are trying to avoid loop. Legit they addicently reverted a patch on him i believe during the kendo tech denki fix update with his other fixed problems arising after.

im fina make another guide after tomorrow to at least show all the tech and new stuff i couldnt visually add as a thank you for your participation.

Im dead serious too, lend me them your energy!

[ancient flicker]

Lend them the energy to make it to where he can’t chain 20 betas together

It’s stoopid

[robust anchor]

I think its balanced. I mean you can only do 4 which takes up his entire kit basically since his alpha isn't all that useful for most things. So after you land it that's it for like 20 seconds and you're basically just a melee character for a bit that cant run away. That seems way more balanced than some of these characters....

[ancient flicker]

You have a point

[long pelican]

Oh yeah you mean the same beta that isnt consistent with teleporting enemies sometimes killing you in battle

[fluid escarp]

Our alpha means something now 🙏

[pastel mango]

At level 9, equivalent to a roughly level 4 Strike Bakugo alpha.
Enough to actually be a threat in a fight, pretty substantial buff.

[fluid escarp]

75->92 lvl 1 if all hit.
Actually nutty buff if they fixed some bugs so I can beta melee without them going back or not coming at all.
Still super good either way ik people will complain. Mainly less mobile peeps.
If they fixed alpha dmg tuning as well? (But not fix stacking) it's gonna be over.

[pastel mango]

They better have fixed the exponential scaling with damage tunings.
I'm not excited for Monoma's special tuning to be giving people +35% damage on their primary attack.

[fluid escarp]

They will if havnt which is why im happy about his tuning. These numbers are outa hand already.

Legit can get ~45% with 3 alpha stack and 2hp stack i guarantee it

[eager umbra]

I mean people should be teleported with beta or gamma beta

That’s just the intended function of it

Even if it’s broken

[eager umbra]

guys

we going bar for bar with allmights now

[simple phoenix]

Was that allmight allergic to using iframes

I’m afraid Kuro still dies to 80% of the roster

[eager umbra]

iframe usage didnt kill him

[eager umbra]

in a straight up fight maybe

I usually like to play gamma campy

and this alpha buff has only given more precedence to this strat

[fluid escarp]

he less buggy (for those not on 240hz monitors)? in training and his gamma feels different. maybe beta too. I think it procs damage faster. praying they fixed his dude

[fluid escarp]

dmg bug seems pretty fixed. teleporting still meh (better i think ) just need to buy a dif monitor ig.
got outside of map, but ou can re-enter at least

kuro might become meta in tourneys

[simple phoenix]

No the LACK of frame usage killed him

[eager umbra]

Not really

he took 67 damage sure but the he was already getting wrecked prior

i guess that maybe made the diff in me winning and him losing

but it still being that close is a point to how much better the alpha is now

[eager umbra]

@fluid escarp literally watching ur guide rn while in game with u

crazy

are you 3-stacking btw?

[fluid escarp]

lol. yeah. friend is eu so we in eu. cant steal for shizer in eu

also other third hasnt played for like 5 months

[eager umbra]

im in solo queue

wheres that system bruh

[fluid escarp]

they might combine ppl who live long with stackers tbh idk if its dif syetem

[eager umbra]

wack

[naive granite]

Can kuro tp a mountlady in giant form?

[brazen linden]

That would be hilarious if he could lmaoooo

[naive granite]

That's what I'm saying, imagine that just appearing behind you 😭

[eager umbra]

im getting 226 dmg on my gamma beta a lot but it's always on their down

idk if its just accounting for their downed hp but ya

[eager umbra]

guys what is this

[fluid escarp]

willpower

[eager umbra]

makes sense ty

Thought I was getting kurogiried again

[eager umbra]

less buggy he is not

his beta is actually kinda infuriating

50/50 chance it just knocks the enemy even if they havent had any damage done to them because screw you

gamma beta is a lot more inconsistent with tping now too

[fluid escarp]

i dont mind gamma no tp tbh, its kinda too cheese. guess we just need a better monitor.
gamma doing dmg is what is fixed and that what i needed at the very least

also it doesnt actually knock them, they always fall if they are in midair when u land beta

you need to throw another one or melee, and aim at ground when u throw 2nd beta so they get liften in the air some instead of touching ground instantly

and on melee u cant be too close to port or it wifs, or used to

[eager umbra]

to know in the moment though like that is hard, especially if they jumped

am trying to tp them far away after the first but adding a melee kinda makes it impossible I think

[fluid escarp]

holdup im cookn. just discoved something convientient to do

looking downwards puts them in the air. only slightly if your looking to the side as well

Since i dont feel like makn bots do a move that puts them in the air, it doesnt show them falling but it should work regardless. If u only land 1 beta, u do 2 melees into alpha. You could throw 2 alphas but they can do a move by then, which is still not bad, at best u waste thier move, they get out in time if its a fast move, or at worse you trade blows

its actually easier if they fall i think since ur 2nd is less likely to put you through your own portal

2 melees has more end lag so its easier for that route. on hp its near true

if they arnt falling and u throw a melee, if u want to avoid going thru ur portal then just dont throw the 2nd one. You can always be ready to throw ur 2nd melee slow so u have time to react to see what u wana do

ending with alpha i think will always send them to the ground

since im here might as well show the right example

[eager umbra]

wait u can tp them when they're down?

okay then thats good to know

[fluid escarp]

u didnt finish the guide!

[eager umbra]

its a long guide

[fluid escarp]

lol ik but its worth

well glad u know now

ima make a shorter 1 for u fiends

[eager umbra]

I just need sections I think

like what discusses what

so I can skip around

[fluid escarp]

yea ima do something like that. it was a sloppy guide i warned

[eager umbra]

I'll make sure I watch the full thing

[hollow vortex]

Kurogir mains and players,what do you think about the change in his alpha?

My thoughts are: For instant dmg yeah its good but i prefer the more tick dmg because 1 it's faster to finish down enemies 2 it's more satisfying and 3 I used to break gaurds way quicker with the tick dmg.(given i can hit all the ticks)

[eager umbra]

new alpha is way better

and new alpha still has tick damage

you just aren't completely screwed if the enemy is moving now

[fluid escarp]

new vid wont show how to do tp/clip bugs, old one does.
and i found a new one-ish idk how to really replicate it. has to do with input movements and timings. might be like a frame perfect thing

Like walking foward when throwing beta, stopping (or not) and going backwards at some point either b4 or when melee lands or right after.

yall figure it out and ill show another tech that i just learned how to do thats actually really useful okish. it also involves a bug

[toxic hazel]

ive noticed this too

[eager umbra]

changing kota finder to willpower i cba with the constant gang fights with kota

and he's not even got any outfits with kota finder at lvl 11 so he'll always have to wait that extra 5 secs

[pastel mango]

I just send my gamma out toward the center of the map during the first few seconds and then redirect it when Kota shows up. Usually I end up covering a decent chunk of ground toward Kota with my gamma by doing that during the wait time even if I don't know exactly where he is yet.

[eager umbra]

that's what I do but sadly 60% of the time someone is always there right next to me or before me

just not worth it compared to willpower

which has saved me 3 times already now

[long pelican]

Nice domestic girlfriend opening bgm

🫡

[opal root]

Anyone got combos?

[eager umbra]

@fluid escarp out of curiosity what is your play style with kurogiri?

The sit back play style can be effective but also really hard in the final circle

[eager umbra]

look up

[fluid escarp]

Ur gonna have to go into scrims or something if you want the correct answer. Just learning myself with the tourney im playing.

Cause solo q u can get away with anything

[eager umbra]

I'm playing a lot of ranked and trying to figure it out

im just asking you for your playstyle

[fluid escarp]

I seriously don't think when I play lol. Zone is your friend. Sky is your friend. Learned that from tourney.
Sistely let's you get away with more. Mt ldy too ig.
Zawa too. If zawa ideally shield b4 u get into hp too deep. Port full sheild ull make it with zawa. Port loops good too. Minis your friend too

Since his alphas are decent u can save ur ports more. Idk when to save or use offensively tbh.

When it comes to end

Im not a gamma botter as well so idk anything about that

[eager umbra]

I still can't get the beta into melee into storm correctly

the chaos makes it hard but if I get it to work ill do it

though I can also just do it with normal knocks too

even if they come out flopped on the ground so I guess it doesn't matter

but ya alpha being better helps a lot

[robust anchor]

Anyone know how to avoid the new knockdown when trying to portal stagger? Seems like combining anything with your portal like say yellow deku alpha or kendo alpha knocks them even though those moves have zero knockdown.

[eager umbra]

that isn't what knocks them

considering I saw a post of a monoma using kurogiri beta and allmight alpha to tod someone just fine

it's just if they're in the air or have already taken a substantial amount of knockdown damage prior

and yes in the air means even if they're mid jump 5cm above the ground

just look up at the clips above and you'll see what you can do

[robust anchor]

Im not talking about monoma. Im trying to do the same exact thing ive always been able to do but now it knows. Just easy team combos while staggering with beta portal. But now it seems broken. Ive always been able to beta while someone with no knock down hits him until this season.

[eager umbra]

Please read what I actually said.

Whether the clip was of a monoma using kurogiri beta with allmight alpha or whether is was a kurogiri with an allmight using his alpha is irrelevant.

The point is that your assumption is incorrect.

Now read the rest of what I said before you responded.

[robust anchor]

I read what you said. And im saying it doesn't work the same as before. Ive never had an issue before and would do this kind of thing all the time Specifically with kendo alpha.

So is the change just that portals go in the air more or what are you trying to say. Because something changed.

[eager umbra]

It would always have like a 70% chance of knocking someone once you portaled them if they were in the air or if they had a bunch of damage done to them already

guess you didn't play enough Kurogiri if you haven't had that happened to you before

However I will admit it is more likely to knock them now

[robust anchor]

I did this all the time with rarely having people hover off the ground while doing so. But okay.

[eager umbra]

ever since this update

But what I said still applies

[robust anchor]

I never said it didnt. I was trying to figure out why it isn't as consistent now or.how to fix it. But thanks anyways.

[eager umbra]

Portal them when they're not in the air or getting damaged

that's how

[robust anchor]

Doesnt work. Ive been trying to fix the problem in training today and those bots aren't moving even.

[eager umbra]

send a clip

[dark depot]

I wanna say thank you to all the Kurogiri mains yalls special is amazing you carry 90 percent of your teams

[long pelican]

I thought people who come across us dont think we know how to play this character xd

[steel tendon]

Hey ! I want to try to play Kurogiri for the first time in my next game session, do you have any basic tips on how I should play him?

[eager umbra]

ok yeah the strat is good kaje

made kurogiri go from feeling really weak in final circle to strong for me

probably coulda killed him just by doing the beta x3 classic but style points

[eager umbra]

itzkaje has a video on him but I'd just recommend always keeping a beta for yourself in case you need to escape and also to only really try start fighting after getting your beta to lvl 7

[long pelican]

Guys I unlocked a new tech for Kurogiri

By total accident

[eager umbra]

do tell

[long pelican]

dw i got a clip

[brazen linden]

Please say he can drink during the match that’d be peak 🍺

[long pelican]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890090759011840053/1372673655175118888/2025_05_14_1747204882629-_.gif

[brazen linden]

That’s cool as heck

[long pelican]

sadly no...welll maybe u can make something work with this

double gammaaa

xd

@eager umbra sooo thoughts?

[long pelican]

@fluid escarp new tech~!

omg it works really well

hello!!

so with further testing

It teleports you to the first gamma you pulled out but enemies can still see the 2nd one so u can play mind games with it or send alphas raining down on them

However when it comes to the beta it sends the target AWAY from your body instead to the first gamma if you hit the beta for teh 2nd gamma you used

Wow

[eager umbra]

I've already had this happen to me about 3 times

[long pelican]

i thought it was a bug

well it technically is

[eager umbra]

It is

[long pelican]

but its not that bad of a bug to consider something to abuse

at least compared to toga mirio bug

or alll might melee

xd

so it has the same chance that when you hit someone with gamma beta and it doesnt tp them\

so there is a 50/50 50/0 0/50 chance

xd

[fluid escarp]

day 1 tech wym lol

well its been in day 1

but i been saying that bug happens when u ledge cancel gamma

and others been sayn it happens lol

theres some actual uses 1 other use for it in other ways a lil

ull tp to the 1st one, so ucan ledge cancel gamma into a portal. the 2nd one will be the one u control, but the first one u can tp to thats at a further distance

[long pelican]

Lol here i was thinking i discovered something

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1154251664946106498/1168782196312653854/churchemote3_smaller.gif

[eager umbra]

whats the consistent way to do this

seems it either does the glitch or cancels the gamma

@fluid escarp can you pick up downed teammates with gamma beta

seems you cant

if you can then what is this

[torn mortar]

level order?

when should i use gamma with kurogiri? to chase?

[eager umbra]

beta 7 gamma 9 beta 9

[long pelican]

u need to face forward then press gamma as ur holding forward tbefore pressing gamma again

[naive granite]

Embrittlement kuro?

[eager umbra]

It works

Also idk if you’ve had it happen to you @fluid escarp but I’ve been getting a lot more double gamma beta damage recently

mainly on hp, and once or twice it wasn’t even a kill shot

[fluid escarp]

its possible again, confrimed today

[eager umbra]

You know the way to do it consistently?

I mean I can probably just record myself next time I inevitably do it again and try repeat it in training mode but

[fluid escarp]

Yeah not sharing that if I did lol.

[eager umbra]

No reason to gate keep it if you did lol

Sharing it gets them to patch it quicker

[eager umbra]

found one clip of it

I'll get more later

This can be attributed to it just hitting the additional hp they get when downed but I've hit this without them going down before so

[ancient flicker]

Ladder

[eager umbra]

just happened to me again like 3 times in 1 game against bots

both times it was the last gamma

[fluid escarp]

Yeah they are reallllly good on fixing bugs. Yall can figure it out and spread it

[eager umbra]

I’m pretty sure it just needs to be the last gamma and they need to be moving.

[eager umbra]

I wonder

if this kurogiri gamma beta dmg glitch is somehow related to the ibara alpha dmg glitch going on rn

[long pelican]

It is

i usually do alpha beta instead of just beta so it looks normal to me

[eager umbra]

So Ibara Alpha is also doubled with another tick of dmg?

[long pelican]

apparently

wasnt always like this

[eager umbra]

mm so I guess this kurogiri double dmg is unrelated to any double gamma that was happening before

[final vector]

that Cementoss is FURIOUS

[eager umbra]

real

[wide fractal]

WTF IS THIS PORTAL????

[eager umbra]

oof

still my favourite thing to do with kurogiri

I just noticed the toga tries to go for the portal before it closes

makes it even funnier

[wide fractal]

You are a sadistic pos

I like it…

[eager umbra]

It’s really effective for final circles

[wide fractal]

I feel like a victim in packed final circles

I can’t even say upwards is safe because a monoma is camping up there

[final vector]

been trying to pull that off

but they wake up too fast

should i reduce the distance of the portal?

[eager umbra]

You might, can’t remember if I was cancelling it early

Though that looks close to max distance

[final vector]

yeah it does

[eager umbra]

I’d say just practice in training mode, which was what I did a bit to get a feel for it

Honestly you have to stand back further than you would think

Which is what I struggled and still do struggle with a bit

[solid sapphire]

Why does his beta just refuse to teleport people

But works just fine in training

[eager umbra]

If someone is in the air or received a lot of knockdown dmg already it will likely not teleport

It’s annoying but it is what it is

[solid sapphire]

Gonna try it on someone grounded and alone

It's so inconsistent from the gamma 🫩

[eager umbra]

It should teleport them if they’re on the ground but yes it is sadly inconsistent

[wide fractal]

Can someone explain why sometimes some people fall over after the first damage portal

[eager umbra]

probably because they were in the air

or took too much dmg

if it’s the latter you won’t be able to melee them before they hit the ground

[naive granite]

The kuro experience: being in storm, use tp, TPS to OTHER side of storm, dies 😎

[fluid escarp]

@eager umbra u on? i kinda wana test if the invisible portal works on enemies that arnt downed. can only test in customs I believe.

making my guide rn

[eager umbra]

I can get on ya, 1 min

wdym by invisible portal tho

[fluid escarp]

i dont feel like scrolln for clip, but i think u cliped u doing it. When someone is downed and u try to beta them away, but miss, the portal closes. However, u can hit them through it still

tbh idk if thats been patched or not

ok it has not been patched. i might be able to test it vs bots actuall ynvm

[eager umbra]

hmm I don't remember that happening, only with the actual gamma beta

tho that only closed cause I went through it

or it just got sucked into the cementoss's structures more likely

[fluid escarp]

actually just tested it. ill show

ima assume it works for people in game. ik training weird sometimes

[eager umbra]

what the

never seen that before

[fluid escarp]

maybe it was shadomech. but yea, posted it here before on the downed person. works on non downed too, but not urself.

[long pelican]

it happens after the double gamma glitch at least from how i did it

[eager umbra]

from one (slightly) broken character to another

[robust cairn]

What you did wasn’t “broken” though. If anything that monoma did it to himself by walking into your portal 😭

[eager umbra]

I didn’t say his beta was broken.

I said his character was (slightly) broken.

what makes him broken is:
his ability to tp save anyone from anywhere across the map
his easy peasy 400+ dmg combo
the ability to do that on knocked down opponents without them having a choice in the matter

and even with that last one not being the case in this scenario he still only had a second to react to my portal lol

[robust cairn]

Easy peasy combo that fails to pull half the time

Gamma that barely ever wants to pull

Special action that can also fail to pull

Portals that can fail to appear, fail to teleport, fail to do damage

Alphas that don’t do linger damage

Kurogiri is a special character. Special in the way that he’s the only character to have bugs with all four of his primary abilities

[eager umbra]

At least the last thing works consistently

Though I will say I’ve never failed to pull someone with my SA unless I accidentally targeted my other already downed teammate again

[fluid escarp]

Broken in a cheesy way is where they getn at. If he had no bugs and got a beta buff similar to tech shoto (no delay so it comes out where u aim if u flick fast) he'd be top 5 imo but only if you're good with him.

Low-key scared to put my 2nd guide out cause if they buff/fix him boy every kuro fina eat

[worthy violet]

Kurogiri feels amazing I don’t want anymore buffs

The only change I would consider is buffing gamma alpha cause that never changed with the alpha buff

[long pelican]

No i think it would be a guarenteed beta teleport after hitting them

cuz ive messed up comboes alot cuz of this issue

[eager umbra]

Just had this happen last night

[midnight lynx]

Imagine if Kurogiri get a quirk set

[eager umbra]

he'll get one tho he doesn't need it

every character is planned to get one

there was the file leaks a while back for each of their names

[brazen linden]

Nice and all, but do you know how long the game would need to survive for?

[eager umbra]

No

Oh wait, how long it would need to survive for

like 10 seasons or less?

If they keep doing 2 in 1 season

this game seems cheap to keep running with big returns

if it's lasted a year already when no one thought it would, it'll keep going

[eager umbra]

lol I love stealing kurogiri beta as monoma

its even easier to knockdown and send someone far outside zone

cause you don't have to do gymnastics to knock someone down infront of you if you teleport them fine

unironically if they ever "nerfed" kurogiri by increasing the knockdown on his beta it'd be a buff

[brazen linden]

I don’t think this 2 in 1 season approach is necessarily a new stay kinda thing lol

But maybe I’m wrong

[fluid escarp]

his gamma can pierce when it bugs. It bugs often. like 1/4 at least. when it happens you can hit 2 people since its 2 betas.
it might have to do on "when" the game does refreshes. Like on wow (ive heard) there was a plugin to time on when the server refreshes ticks, so you could like start an animation on the right time to skip a tick or something to the effect.

also, if you let go right before you hit them, even if it was going to pierce the portal will stop when you let go. since the dmg keeps going, they will fall towards you. so they have a chance to fall through the portal. as long as you do it really close to them, if it wasnt going to peirce anyways youll still get that type of portal and not miss out on the steal chance. the portal is lenient and hitbox is bigger than the visual

now my favorite thing, which works on all hz, you can decide to NOT steal someone

it only peirced once when doing this (idk y), so its at the cost of not peircing: When you hold gamma beta, and let go before it reaches them (hold it long enough to make it not the tap version) the beta damage will still continue going foward

its not as good as the other one since u used to be able to tap it to achieve that, but its something. Also since the beta dmg keeps going, u can basically rapid fire them and hit multiple people without having to wait for the actual beta to land

if u shoot someone far away first, and then someone close and the beta hits the close person first, the far away person will still get hit

ima try and start the guide for the 3rd time

[eager umbra]

what do you mean by pierce

[fluid escarp]

it keeps going (unless hitting a structure)

im not sure if it can hit 3 people though. 2 for sure

[eager umbra]

not exactly getting what you're saying with the choosing to teleport with the gamma beta

stopping the gamma beta portal before it hits someone sounds easy in practice

but that would require extremely good timing

that I dont think is replicable consistently

[fluid escarp]

replicable. not easy perhaps. increases the chances practically.
what dont you get? seems like you got it lol

also might gota delete something. idk if it was cuz my hp, but taping still peirces

training sometimes buggy to. mightve just got lucky as well like 20 times in a row

[eager umbra]

I don't get how stopping the portal before them would actually hit them and or pierce someone to let you get 2 people

and how having a portal be right infront of someone would guarantee them going through it

unless they're going in the same direction the portal is it shouldn't be guaranteed

[fluid escarp]

bruh, u read it. it just increases your chance lol.

never said guarentee

[eager umbra]

well your reedited comment makes more sense but I've never experienced a lingering damage that goes forward once I stopped my portal

[fluid escarp]

ah. makes sense.
well u never go for it. go in training and ull see

the dmg portal doesnt go forever. just the distance it would go if you held it all the way

ill just clip tbh.

hold beta, let go

i remember last patch, When i started to let go when they get hit, my i simply stole every time vs in air vs bots on 60 hz. Youd be lucky to get half.
(i never tried in game much)
So when it doesnt peirce, it might just be more likely to steal in game. Cant test vs bots since now you always steal when it doesnt peirce.

[eager umbra]

i see

[fluid escarp]

didnt really test, but last time the dmg portal only kept going if someone was in its path, so im not sure if u can lead shots with it or not.

also it felt quicker lat time 2. it might be quicker this time around too idk

[robust cairn]

Weird ahh shi stg

[fluid escarp]

not a bad idea tbh

the knockdown part

but theres about 4/5 other buffs id do if that is the case

[eager umbra]

this is literally all buffs

this makes it so beta into alpha would knockdown

which is perfect for storm sending

also gamma duration increase lol

that guy does not play kurogiri, cause otherwise he would know how broken that sounds

but i'll take it

also unrelated but that monoma idea sounds bad

people don't like the system with afo so why would you give the same thing to monoma

just delete his cooldown refresh

[robust cairn]

I dislike storm sending

I feel that beta stun locking is way better

If I throw someone into the storm they can just out heal it with green cards or potions and then I have to have them pop out randomly and attack me or come back and attack me from the storm

I feel like any beta that’s not used for your mobility or your teammates mobility or to directly damage the opponent is a wasted beta

Kurogiri just needs a damage combo he already takes skill to hit your shots don’t make me have to also remember to throw them in the storm

It’s overcomplicating things on an already complicated and buggy character

I already have to deal with is my beta actually gonna warp someone I don’t want to have to deal with oh I did 200 damage time to throw them away now

Like 200 dmg is pathetic 😭

As someone who plays kurogiri this is just more work. This just sounds like I’d get annoyed playing my own character. It feels satisfying to go from a beta into a quadruple beta, it does not feel satisfying to me to throw them away. The whole point is I rob someone quadruple beta them then get in turret mode when they try to run or fight back and kill them bc I have more hp. That means nothing if I’ve thrown them into the circle. Endgame maybe that would work but early game it would be a Godam chore. My gamma already knocks in one shot why would I want my beta to be similar

[eager umbra]

disagree

Beta stun locking you waste all your resources and then that guy can get away

storm sending you can use like 2 betas and an alpha or two

and then poke at them with your gamma to stop them healing

and at end circles that storm is dealing like 40 hp per tick

[robust cairn]

They’re not getting away if I have my gamma out

Kurogiri is the #1 chaser

No one chases as well as kurogiri

Not even monoma

Once I’ve quadruple betad their death is guaranteed

And I still have more than enough gamma to chase

Plus it’s a bad idea to use your gamma final circle if you chase someone in the circle then anyone who is in the circle and isn’t on your team will fry you

[eager umbra]

Monoma 100% chases better than Kurogiri

He literally can have Kurogiri's kit + his own beta / cooldown refresh 3-4 times

And at the end of the day once you use up all your betas to chase you better hope that guy is low

[robust cairn]

Idk a lot of that comes down to skill

First of all a monoma trying to get my beta is a death sentence

I will kill that monoma before he even uses my beta

The chance that a kurogiri and a monoma get together is rare kurogiris are rare the chance that monoma actually gets a kurogiris set to chase is low

And even then a monoma with my skills couldn’t chase me

I evade way too much

Even without cooldowns I would outrun them

But on the flip side no one outruns me

Monoma doesn’t even outrun me

If he ever betas ill gamma him out of the sky and bring him back

Plus with since I have tracker up 100% of the time even a monoma with 36 kurogiri portals couldn’t get away from me

[robust cairn]

Also who tf chased with just beta lmao I’ll chase u with gamma too idgaf

I cycle 1 beta one gamma I will hunt you to the ends of the world and not run out of cooldowns

No betas? No problem

[eager umbra]

if the monoma is dog maybe lol

It's pretty easy for him to get your beta

he has like 8 attempts at it

and then after a 10 second wait, another 8 attempts

he can just use a stunlock move too

strike denki gamma, afo gamma, tech shoto gamma

etc

[robust cairn]

Lmao the only time monoma will ever get close to me is when I want him to be close to me after I’ve quadruple betad him. And then he has a choice. Go for my beta and die or run and die

Lemme get you a clip

Of a monoma that wanted my beta

[eager umbra]

I'm willing to 1v1 you to put you to the test

[robust cairn]

And got absolutely destroyed

[eager umbra]

I think you're overrating yourself

no offence

[robust cairn]

Bro

There’s no way you know kurogiri

[eager umbra]

If a monoma wants your beta he's getting it lol

[robust cairn]

And you’re asking me to 1v1 lmao

[eager umbra]

I know both monoma and kurogiri

[robust cairn]

Kurogiri is an assassin character

If you know where I am I’m not an assassin character

Think

[eager umbra]

#1 aggressive kurogiri: kurogiri is an assassin character

[robust cairn]

1v1s don’t mean shi 💀

[eager umbra]

lol

[robust cairn]

CAUSE HE IS

I CATCH PEOPLE OFF GUARD AND ASSASSINATE THEM

😭like what

[eager umbra]

Read it again

The joke is that your name is #1 aggressive kurogiri

[robust cairn]

So what an assassin isn’t aggressive,?

[eager umbra]

while you have an assassin playstyle

yes

[robust cairn]

What💀

[eager umbra]

aggressive would be playing front or constantly keeping up pressure

not waiting for the perfect moment to beta combo someone lol

[robust cairn]

Kurogiri is a mid tier fighter he fights mid to long range who tf fights in the front

That’s stupid kurogiri

Not aggressive

Lmao

[eager umbra]

That's aggressive

[robust cairn]

Lmao I’ve seen some kurogiris like that. Guess what

They died first

[eager umbra]

Anyway send the clip

[robust cairn]

💀💀💀

[eager umbra]

mid to long range playstyle goes out the window in final circles

and nowadays final circles can have up to 6 teams in them

[robust cairn]

In customs maybe

[eager umbra]

nope

I consistently get them in ranked

[robust cairn]

I don’t 💀

Idk what server you play on but there’s maximum 4 teams in my final circles

[eager umbra]

EU

but regardless even 4 teams is enough to get you focused into the action

you also have the situations where someone could come after you after you just focused their teammate
and you wasted all your resources

[robust cairn]

I mean I kicked his aaah after

But u get the idea

The only reason he survived is cause I got gate kept by another team and he had plus ultra

A monoma with any quirk that isn’t mine will never catch me

[eager umbra]

I mean that is good play but tbh that guy kinda doo doo

[robust cairn]

Also I screwed up the combo too with my gamma. Thought I had more betas. U get the idea they’re going to die if they come for me

[eager umbra]

didnt even try dodge

any knowledgeable guy will know that a kurogiri will try beta combo you in a 1v1

just gotta dodge their first 1-2 and you're good

which ofc kurogiris can alpha in response or melee but ya

still good play though

[robust cairn]

Not really a good play by me

Like I said

[eager umbra]

but that guy also is one of the many people who have still not yet realised to take out the gamma first instead of the kurogiri

[robust cairn]

I screwed the combo up

Could’ve defo killed

But I miss counted my betas

[eager umbra]

You said you didn't have any more betas

besides your combo wouldn't have killed anyway

willpower if you had 3 betas + he pops PU and gamma doesn't kill there

[robust cairn]

That is the correct way to fight a kurogiri but if you get hit by my beta combo you lose no matter what you do. If you try to fight I’ll win because of a health advantage, if you shoot my gamma I’ll just kick your aaah myself, if you try to run you die. Unless you have plus ultra or I get stopped by a different team

[robust cairn]

There’s a way I could’ve teleported him deeper into storm after his plus ultra frames had ran out to make him take 1 tick of storm damage and he would have died

I still had gamma charge

But I messed up the timing and I also didn’t know he had PUR should’ve waited

[eager umbra]

saying "my beta combo" is a bit weird cause its a easy combo anyone can do but ya

and it isn't a tod anyway

[robust cairn]

I mean the reason there aren’t many kurogiris. Is because a lot of people can’t do it

[eager umbra]

its close

but you have to hit the second gamma beta

[robust cairn]

I didn’t even know u could do that never tried don’t really care to try im a very lazy kurogiri

[eager umbra]

There aren't many kurogiris because people aren't the biggest fan of kurogiri

present mic is stupid busted and you only see like 1-2 every game

cementoss too

kurogiri isn't hard with regards to his beta combo

[robust cairn]

People gravitate towards meta

[eager umbra]

the hardest part is not having them flop over when you beta them

[robust cairn]

People don’t play yellow ochako cause she’s a cute fluffy lovable ochako

They play her cause she’s busted

Kurogiri isn’t like that

[eager umbra]

People play ochaco cause she's busted + she's popular

[robust cairn]

💀no

[eager umbra]

People will play rapid allmight cause he's popular + high tier

Ochaco is definitely popular lol

[robust cairn]

It doesn’t matter she’s busted and that’s what important

Monoma isn’t liked

He’s an annoying character

He’s full of himself

[eager umbra]

Monoma is fun

and busted

[robust cairn]

He’s cringy

[eager umbra]

that's why people play him

also that's your opinion

[robust cairn]

BUT HES BUSTED

[eager umbra]

yes

[robust cairn]

They play him

Primarily cause he’s busted

[eager umbra]

And I said people play her because she's busted but also because she's popular

it's not just one factor

[robust cairn]

With monoma it really is one factor

[eager umbra]

the main fact is that kurogiri's beta combo is not hard

[robust cairn]

He’s so high above everyone else

[eager umbra]

not in any way imaginable

what is hard about it?

[robust cairn]

It’s a gamble for one

You never know whether it’ll actually pull or not

[eager umbra]

that's not hard man thats just called gambling

[robust cairn]

There’s like 5 bugs attributed to just his beta alone

[eager umbra]

I'd say the only hard part is actually hitting them with it

[robust cairn]

That makes the character hard

When the entire kit is bugged

That makes it hard to predict

Hard to predict = hard to play

[eager umbra]

I'm talking about the beta combo in specific

[robust cairn]

Yea and that applies to

The beta is so buggy that it’s hard to predict which makes it hard to pull off combos

[eager umbra]

The entire kit being bugged is not relevant to the beta combo

Except for the beta part

[robust cairn]

When I use a beta and I see it hit instinctively use another beta right?

Because if I don’t the combo is ruined

But what if they don’t teleport?

Then my beta might be wasted

[eager umbra]

That's just gambling

[robust cairn]

Which puts me in a bad spot

GAMBLING MAKES IT HARD

[eager umbra]

And you can afford to wait to see if they come out

[robust cairn]

GAMBLING MAKES EVERYTHING HARD

WHAT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS

[eager umbra]

if they come out ragdolled then you were never going to get a gamma beta off in the first place

[eager umbra]

It makes it annoying but not hard

[robust cairn]

You are arguing semantics

🤦‍♂️

[eager umbra]

Did you just learn that word today

annoying is not the same as hard

not anywhere close

[robust cairn]

That’s subjective

What you find annoying I find hard

You really going to go around this carousel all day?

Cause I’ll argue till the end of time

I have all day

[eager umbra]

objectively holding and letting go off a button 3 times and then doing it again with the gamma beta is not hard

You would actually faint if you tried any aizawa combo

based on how difficult you think a kurogiri combo is

[robust cairn]

My guy is playing ultra rumble and talking about things that are hard

Lmao

My guy

Do you know what game you’re playing

Objectively kurogiri is one of the hardest characters in this game

[eager umbra]

Brother what are you talking about

[robust cairn]

Cause they’re all brain rot easy

[eager umbra]

Brother we're talking about the combo

[robust cairn]

BROTHER IN RELATIVITY THE COMBO IS HARD

[eager umbra]

kurogiri is one of the more complex characters in the game yes

nothing about firing something 3 times over is hard

you literally don't even have to do anything else except hold and release a button once you've got them

only for the gamma beta do you need to press more than 1 button

2 buttons

the horror

[robust cairn]

Have you seen the combos of other characters?

[eager umbra]

I main aizawa dude

[robust cairn]

Aizawa is stupid easy

Your point?

[eager umbra]

lol

[robust cairn]

I touched Aizawa and got 10 kills

[eager umbra]

you could not do most aizawa combos in the game

[robust cairn]

Bro should be nerfed and its not close

[eager umbra]

congrats on your bot game

[robust cairn]

Ranked* and in customs*

[eager umbra]

Did you happen to use embrittlement?

[robust cairn]

Man thinks he’s good cause he plays one of the most busted melee characters in the game with 200 dmg slams

That’s crazy

[eager umbra]

When did I say I'm good?

[robust cairn]

Idk u tried to 1v1 me 💀💀💀

Sounds pretty aggressive to me

I didn’t say shi to you lmao

Also you’re trying to act like your combos require actual skill

Get off your high horse

[eager umbra]

I believe I'm better than you

[robust cairn]

Your combos are just broken

[eager umbra]

still didn't say anything about me being good

[robust cairn]

If you don’t think you’re good then you’re a waste of time 1v1ing

I wouldn’t waste my time 1v1ing someone that doesn’t even have the tiny bit of confidence

Lmao

And someone who thinks Aizawa combos take skill

Yeeeesh what hole did you crawl out of

[eager umbra]

lol

Gonna assume you only spam alpha into gamma

which is fine for someone of your level

[robust cairn]

Bro plays solo

LMAO

SOLO IS WHERE THE NOOBS ARE

😭😭😭

THATS WORSE THAN BOT GAMES

[eager umbra]

So aggressive

[robust cairn]

I WIN THOSE AS WARM UP GAMES MY GUY

LMAOOO

[eager umbra]

Sure you do

[robust cairn]

ITS LITERALLY CALLED “UNRANKED” FOR A REASON

LMAOOOO

IM CRYING