Nejire Hado

[modest forum]

You were actively encouraged to not use your alpha as Nejire

There was no reason to

You just spammed a giant AOE move from far away

[burnt fern]

Ease of use no character takes rocket science to learn

[modest forum]

which none of those characters can do

[modest forum]

They take more than 1 brain cell to play

OG Nejire didn’t

Strike Dabi is pretty brain numbing but he definitely has more to him than OG Nejire

[burnt fern]

A nerf I wanted for her was a range nerf

Woulda been better than what the betas doing now

[grizzled maple]

Nejire is fine

[burnt fern]

And with a bit more she can be great looking forward to the idol skin buffs

[modest forum]

Nejire is fine now yeah, SA could do with a buff, maybe a speed buff for alpha

But beta can do 170 with tuning

and has a quick knockdown regardless

[grizzled maple]

I think her current pur is supposedly pretty good but I don't have it so I can't really use it

I want wall runner so I can be more mobile

[burnt fern]

With a buffed special action you can be more mobile

[grizzled maple]

Personally my sa doesn't run out so what kinda buff you talking

[burnt fern]

It went from 5 burst to 3

[grizzled maple]

Oh I didn't really like the dash either way

[burnt fern]

Also the way it's designed is horrible how sometimes turning can mess you up especially with the storm involved

Or getting beamed

[grizzled maple]

Yeah I never liked it when playing or fighting it so can't say I want it back

[burnt fern]

I would want the bursts back and make it less self destructive

[grizzled maple]

They cld just improve the turning and endlag and keep it at 3 really

[burnt fern]

I'd only agree if the special came back a bit faster at the least

[torpid falcon]

Hello everyone, im trying my best as a novice Nejire main, and I was looking for some guides but I don't see too many on YouTube for the "current" version of Nejire the "nerfed" version, i dropped my hero for about almost a year and I was wondering if any of you had any good tips and suggestions for playing nejire with how she is now, possible tuning builds, and Quirk leveling priority

[modest forum]

I think most agree gamma 4 first at least for the second charge

After that it’s up 2 u

[modest forum]

uh idk if anyone's looked at the new idol costume tunings yet but they kinda all look pretty mid

still rolling for the outfit itself but oof

miss villain style probably still gonna remain the best

[grizzled maple]

Does it have a hero rapid slot per chance?

[modest forum]

some do yes

And by some I mean 2

[modest forum]

They seem really conservative with giving outfits more than 2-3 strike slots nowadays though

[last thistle]

They are not good imo. All new builds are bad

[modest forum]

sad

[grizzled maple]

Should be all I need

[digital garden]

In the nerf I am with you

[ruby spoke]

How am I supposed to get this ?

Wait until it's back on rolls ?

Like the 1000 ticket pity thing.

[modest forum]

yes

[steel prawn]

Best chance tbh yeah

[modern matrix]

I like how nejy ray feels now, started player her this season. she actually takes effort and skill to use but gawd is she really vulnerable when she uses beta or gamma. Her dmg is very well balanced though.

[modern matrix]

the only problem i had with her pre nerf was the dmg on the her beta and not being able to dodge her beta. Everything else was ok

[last thistle]

She just needed a damage nerf on her beta and maybe 2 knockbacks instead 3.

Know its very useless to me. And her special is nerfed unnecessary bc she had not that crazy fast Mobility

[modest forum]

damage nerf is crazy

she already did and it basically uses up most of her charge for one full beam now

[modern matrix]

my build rn for her she's in my rotation of characters that I play now

the special action at lvl 4 with fixer helps a lot

[modern matrix]

Do any nejire mains or nejire players think she needs something or do you think she's in a good spot?

[steel prawn]

I think most say to either decrease the SA consumption rate, or change her beta a certain way

I think the beta and SA consumption are a lil too much but the damage and reload are fine

[steel prawn]

I literally have this verbatim except for the fixer thing, I'm gonna try it rq

Except I don't have overhaul too

[reef wharf]

Sorry the video is having audio issues, I'll send it here when it's fixed

Hay hay

How did I do guys?

[grizzled maple]

You uhh removed it?

[reef wharf]

It’s back up now

Oh wait wrong link

Hold on

Nejire is Top Tier (My Hero Ultra Rumble Nejire Hado Montage)
https://youtu.be/qFN9AdakvKI

There it is

[grizzled maple]

You did good

Though you never wall ran once

Prob bc it was all chaos city

Nice editing

[reef wharf]

Thx

[reef wharf]

I tend to forget, I’m too used to using speed cards to wall run

[modest forum]

hm I didn't notice 3 bursts of my alpha do 280

fixer moment

[reef wharf]

Wha

[modest forum]

oh by 3 bursts I mean pressing alpha 3 times / hitting all 9 rings

[grizzled maple]

It's prob more intuitive on ua

Chaos city doesn't have much high walls

[reef wharf]

So fixer is broken

[modest forum]

it increases the stats by 2.0 or 2.1 depending on if its left or right

but the stats are pretty low to begin with

but yes if im giving up sa reload or gp pot or something else for more dmg I'd expect the dmg to be good

also amplifies the other stuff in the same slot so ya, not just dmg

[last thistle]

Thats very good but strike kirishima special tuning is ver helpful for nejire to survive abd escape as she can fly

[modest forum]

nejire gaming

[steel prawn]

You ate that up

[modest forum]

just grateful the mic did not beta me

otherwise I mighta been cooked

he was solo too

so gamma dmg with pu crazy

[steel prawn]

Oof

[unreal osprey]

How to use nejire I wanna use a girl character I want to know combos and lvl up orders and tips and trick on how to stay in the air long

[steel prawn]

There is practically no combo potential ngl

[torpid crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgYAbpcOtGg

[steel prawn]

You not grabbing the dekus cards made me so mad ngl

[torpid crag]

I didn't even notice they spawned till editing that clip, I thought they just shut off the game and I didn't get any loot from him. But it was just a delayed spawn because the deku was laggy

[steel prawn]

Yeah cause seeing that level 3 gamma just made me irritated lmao

[modern matrix]

Idk for combos

• 1st melee 3x then alpha,
• gamma into alpha which is very hard to land due to her animation lag
  gamma lvl 4 then
  alpha lvl 9
  beta lvl 9

don't use all your special action unless you need to.
tap dance her special action like press it a little to conserve it
Also make sure to touch the ground or climb grab a wall to prompt refresh on abilities.
And this goes for all characters,make sure to use cards!
Best cards to use on her are rapid,strike,and tech cards!

[modern matrix]

↑

[modest forum]

letsgooo pretty much covered it all but I will say try to learn to wakeup dmg gamma and beta

can stop someone from escaping on low hp

nejire's big aoe moves gives her a lot of freedom to do that

her gamma is especially good at doing it

[modest forum]

an example of what I mean

(dw about my ibara dying in the back, rezzed her later and won)

[reef wharf]

Deserved

[unreal osprey]

Ok I will do ima start spinning for her character

[modest forum]

dont

she has a banner soon

in about 2 weeks

[unreal osprey]

What the banner gonna do?

[modest forum]

increase the drop rate

you're not likely to get her when she's not featured up

you can pity her but thats about it

[unreal osprey]

Ok so if I get her banner then I should spin

[modest forum]

a banner isnt something you get

it just happens

a limited time thing

that will come back every so often

the current banners up are for monoma and 2 quirkset banners for tech todo and rapid allmight

[unreal osprey]

How do I get they banners

[modest forum]

.

[unreal osprey]

Oh

I can get they just increase the drop rate

Oh I know now lie when you spin you see them in the thing

[modest forum]

Yes Nejire is in the monoma banner

you are not likely to get her

they only increase the drop rates for characters that are featured in the banner

and like I said nejire will have one in 2 weeks for her idol costume drop

[modern matrix]

hopefully her idol skin has something good

[modest forum]

sadly it doesn't

its already up on the site

pretty miss villain style still the best

i will still roll tho cause its cute

[unreal osprey]

So what all drop in two weeks?

[modest forum]

wat

[unreal osprey]

What items drop in two weeks

[modest forum]

banners

what matters for you is one is a nejire one

[unreal osprey]

Ok

[steel prawn]

POOKIES

We got a buff

25 per SA dash

There is a god

[modest forum]

That will be nice yeah

[wary osprey]

FINALLY!!!!!

[burnt fern]

Not sure why her original given amount had to be changed in the first place good change but the 5 would've been more peak I wonder what she'll need next after this maybe damage on something ?

[torpid crag]

Honestly I thought she was fine as is, I am 100% fine with the special action buff tho since it was fine on release. But other than that she's pretty well balanced, not too weak but not too strong. Her beta is still great fun tho I feel bad for anyone on controller using her alphas on aim assist. Y'all ain't hitting anything because of the properties of her quirk don't work well with aim assist. Her alpha is crazy if you can hit it without aim assist tho

[lethal comet]

hey

the buff wasnt that bad

[deep beacon]

[modern matrix]

Yall Nejire mains eating good whilst us momo mains are plotting on every monoma we see (K/O to all monomas)

[modern matrix]

They reduced the alpha projectile radius

on nejire

[wary osprey]

Reach or size of the actual attack?

[modern matrix]

The size

or maybe they didn't, I'm looking at old footage

[modern matrix]

After seeing multiple youtube videos before this patch. I'm unsure if it's actually reduced.

[modest forum]

report back if thats true

[modern matrix]

It's not sorry to worry

actually idk it does look smaller but im unsure

[deep beacon]

Every Monoma getting teabagged (alot more now)

[limber whale]

Played her once

Shinso saw me

Got plucked out of the air

Died

Never again

[steel prawn]

Everyone here experienced that at LEAST like 10 times atp

[limber whale]

She’s cute af but nah

The mental damage of that is just too much to bear

[steel prawn]

Fair enough

I'm just used to it now ngl

[modest forum]

Shinso do be annoying

just gotta keep him outta your range

or knock him down before he touches you

[lethal comet]

YIPPEE

i use embrittlement and gp sucker if anyones wondering

[hollow otter]

Can we get this outfit in Ultra Rumble?

[grizzled maple]

That ain't happening gang 😭

[modest forum]

with mods yeah

[reef wharf]

Her face lol

[steel prawn]

Stealing this, thank you🙏🙏

[modest forum]

testing diff stuff on nejire rn

electification not good

trance blow is awaiting results

[modest forum]

trance blow decent but willpower is way too good for me to drop

saved me too many times

[limber whale]

I would be a nejire main instantly

We would also need a Godzilla skin though

And I just love having a cute costume for a character I can’t tune because I don’t own them…

Fun…

[modern matrix]

I mained nejire because she was op ❌
I main nejire because she takes skill now ❌
I main nejire because of her aesthetics,emotes,and voicelines ✅

[carmine cloak]

go go go!

[lethal comet]

😂

[lethal comet]

🤣

[reef wharf]

Same cuz she’s one of my favorite characters

[reef wharf]

Mine now too

[vernal thorn]

who mains Nejire , i feel like she's out of the meta

[modest forum]

👋

[lethal comet]

[lethal comet]

she still works

u just gotta really know how to aim those alphas really well

once i did it was kind of a breeze

i was 1v3'ing and all that using her entire kit including melees that are abnormally strong especially with embrittlement

[wary osprey]

I really need advice on how to use embrittlement

[lethal comet]

It's simpler than you think. When you are fighting you have to be actively spamming the space button and strafing while you are the air. ADS for more effectiveness and hit your alphas eventually while they are dodging and rolling or trying to shoot u down but with ur constant unpredictable strafing and the alphas you are overwhelming ur enemy with assuming you are simultaneously closing the distance to hit better alphas you can air melee them into a full melee combo by then you can proc the embrittlement. Or you can also choose to melee then just back up and alpha them till knock down then proceed with the gamma wake up tech

[wary osprey]

Ah, thanks

Perhaps this is a misconception, or it’s harder to use than I thought, but isn’t embrittlement VERY short? It’s like when I hit my melee the little circle metre fully finishes

If you get what I mean

[modest forum]

personally I don't think a 10% debuff is worth getting in melee range with nejire

just use fixer

[lethal comet]

i mean it works for me

i think being afraid to get into melee range is what holds back a good amount of nejires kit nonetheless how much damage it does

even without embrittlement

[grizzled maple]

I think this is true with a lot of chars.. I think running embrit so much made me better at the game

Tho I don't think it's worth running for meta now

But you should absolutely not ignore how useful meleeing actually is

It's your only way of doing DMG without a cooldown

[modest forum]

disagree, lot of characters have good way to mess you up close range

afo beta, shinso beta into alpha, aizawa gamma into alpha, red deku beta, bakugo gamma, etc

[lethal comet]

ofc but you can always take that into regard before you mindless go into melee so this i disagree

its like playing a shooter game and watching for cooldowns

oh this guy used his gamma already so i can capitalize on this and get my embrittlement off

[modest forum]

when over half of the roster is going to mess you up close range its beyond just choosing your targets

like bro you can only actually successfully go towards a handful of characters

without fear of getting messed up

[lethal comet]

obviously if they aren't in super armor u can get something off or when they are in a state of vulnerability which u can tell after using up all their cds. They wont expect a nejire to flying directly above and quickly landing with a sudden air melee.

sure you can stay afar if that fits ur playstyle and just shooting away

besides fear is what prevents people from doing genuine damage numbers and getting KO's I was told to play like a crashout and use every tool to your advantage which also includes taking risks

So i did just this and played like a crashout and i found myself winning more games that way

maybe my playstyle with embrittlement works for me because im used to playing melee characters

or playing with meleeeven after the sisterly nerfs

the sisterly era helped me figure out when, where and how I can get away with melees

now i play without sisterly and i still play like i have sisterly

besides against shinso you are just inherently fked so

he loves his aerial fighters

loves bringing them down to his level

its about trying it out and seeing what works hence being open-minded which i very much am

[modest forum]

idk I just don't see the best nejire winning against a decent character like the ones I mentioned

with a nejire who plays like you do

[lethal comet]

do u ever see the best characters losing against nejire nonetheless a decent one unless they dont play right like everyone likes to admit. Nonetheless a decent character played by a really good player losing against nejire, great player or not

[modest forum]

and by decent character I mean decent player of that character

[lethal comet]

https://streamable.com/tu53ox u simply dont see it coming sometimes.

[lethal comet]

https://streamable.com/sgulvy

[modern matrix]

Meleeing with nejire is peak especially from the air.
double melee melee into full melee and alpha right after(if lucky).
On pc it's way easier just because ease of movement with mouse vs controller.

[modest forum]

I play on PC

Hitting them on people running away or ones who didn’t notice you I guess is the only consistent way you’re getting it off

[lethal comet]

yes u may as well

[burnt fern]

I like to use revenge tech and willpower

[modern matrix]

yeah thats how I do it from the slight Momentum from special action

[dark flint]

Congrats to the buff

The one dash is a gamechanger imo

[burnt fern]

Here's hoping for the back to back buffs when idol skin is here

[gusty canopy]

Nejires really good when no one is sniping you out the sky and targeting you

[dawn minnow]

My RECORD, NOOOOO

I MEAN

Nice job bro 👏🏾

[wet depot]

Nejire should get a buff on her gamma for extra damage and her beta should also be buffed i mean nejire is a good character because I'm a nejire main but the should buff her instead of nerfing her

It just doesn't feel the same

@dawn minnow job job you beat my kill score o can only get 9 KO's with nejire

I'm jealous lol

Making progress

From -3800 to 199

I'm so close

Yo expert 3 if I keep coming In 2nd place or 3rd

[dawn minnow]

Anyone down to play?

[silver nimbus]

has anyone tried FIXER tuning with beta cd reduction to see if it makes a big diff?

[modest forum]

I put like 2-3 beta reductions for kurogiri at lvl 11 fixer

Basically did nothing

The values they put are so small it’s literal microseconds difference

basically only worth investing in damage

[silver nimbus]

that's really sad... I kind of noticed the same thing. sigh

ty for the response

I guess damage scales better

[dark flint]

No but fixer is very good

Imo after the buff nejire is back at the game again. This one dash is a gamechanger imo. 5 was a lot, 3 too less but 4 is perfect.

With fixer nejire alpha deals 105 damage

Beta 175 damage (i didnt tune it bc its enough)

Gamma deal 148 damage

Thats pretty high damages

[silver nimbus]

ty! I'll swap things up on that then and try it out

I was thinking kiri's invencible after downing + PG sucker would be decent as well but haven't tried it

[dark flint]

Its also good but fixer + strike kirishima is stronger

[half niche]

Does anyone have a tune build for hado? Any outfit?

[modest forum]

yeah give me a bit

[half niche]

Thank you!!🥹🫶

[foggy pivot]

[grizzled maple]

Ooh that's way cooler than the alpha

[foggy pivot]

brooo, it wasn't easy at all to understand how canceling melee works and how to execute it with gamma

nejire today has a hit kill combo

[grizzled maple]

Is it a dash into gamma?

[foggy pivot]

You could say yes, but the window to hit the gamma is so small that the dash is almost unnoticeable

[modest forum]

first multi lets goo

[dark flint]

Lol i do this since her release😹

[grizzled maple]

I can't hit it 😭

[steel prawn]

I could NEVER hit that gamma

Can hardly hit the alpha

[grizzled maple]

It's real easy if you don't do the full melee but I wanna do the full melee

Also w tag

[steel prawn]

Ayyyy thank you

[foggy pivot]

It's not hard to get it right once you've done it for the first time. The hard part is being consistent with it — even I sometimes miss the window to activate gamma

But do you know how to melee cancel with alpha? I think it could be a step to learn before executing it with gamma

[grizzled maple]

Do you not just press alpha? That feels like what I do 😭

[foggy pivot]

No... it’s not just about pressing Alpha. You actually have to start the melee animation without pressing any WASD direction. Then, you delay the second melee (that timing is tricky too), hit the third melee right after, and while you're in that third animation, press a directional key and then hit Alpha. It’s kinda hard to explain — sorry if that sounded confusing 😔

[grizzled maple]

And for gamma it's the same?

[foggy pivot]

yea, that's right

[foggy pivot]

But one thing — Gamma only works if you're level 9. I was only able to pull off this combo on HP. I think it might work on shield too, but I'm not sure

[grizzled maple]

I'ma try an actual match training ain't working 😭

[wary osprey]

[pearl imp]

I wanna put space hop on nejire, what do you nejire mains think about that?

[grizzled maple]

It's supposedly really good

[candid blaze]

I honestly think it's her best tuning.
For anyone who doesn't have a PUR for Nejire yet, I think 1000 tickets on the current banner is worth it just for access to Space Hop.

[pearl imp]

I was thinking so,

Being able to space hop then gamma could save ALOT of SA and save me a second gamma

It’s gonna take me a little tho to get the rest of Uraraka tuning since I don’t have assault on my main sadly

[candid blaze]

I typically don't need to spend even one gamma on height anymore. Space Hop alone sends you as high as an uncharged gamma, which is plenty for aerial maneuvers. This leaves both gammas open primarily for damage, though you can of course make use of the additional height you gain when you use them for that as well.

[deep beacon]

If you can replace toga for AFO

[modest forum]

You don’t need SA reload

And reload doesn’t make any substantial difference anyway

[deep beacon]

I use it for HP

[pearl imp]

I was also meaning to ask when you get stuff like SA reload boost does the tuning effect still not work till your on the ground?

[dawn minnow]

Hello there

[modest forum]

well the reload itself doesnt so no

and like I said the difference is minimal for reload tunings unless its in one of the two special tuning slots

[vocal mural]

Hi, can anyone help me tune Nejires' Miss Con outfits?

(I have the purple one tuned with Alpha DMG w/ Fixer & Willpower, and her green one with Beta DMG w/ Crushing PU & GP Sucker.)

I want to tune the remaining 4, but I'm not sure what to put on them.

[modest forum]

brother do you have ocd

why would you tune all of them

[grizzled maple]

Shiny idfk

[vocal mural]

idkkk I only use her and Ibara, I'm getting bored of my current builds 😭

[candid blaze]

I recommend Space Hop+Card Duplication on her blue one.

[hollow otter]

Does Nejire's superstar outfit really have no good tunning varients?

[grizzled maple]

The base one is the best imo

I think wall runner gp sucker should be good but Im having trouble making it work atm so I can't fully recommend it

[dark flint]

Idk if its me but for me this 1 dash changed totally the game

Nejire is again so good with my fixer build

[candid blaze]

It's not just the dash, her hover time has also been increased by around 4-5 seconds I think.

[candid blaze]

I'd recommend the Apricot version with Warp Heal and Space Hop.
Divine Protection would be decent, as well.

[dark flint]

Seriously?? Didnt know that. But it changes so much to mee

[dark flint]

I use fixer it makes her immense strong

[candid blaze]

What costume?
Fixer requires quite an optimal slot layout to be worth it.

[vocal mural]

Thank you! I was thinking of tuning her yellow fit with revenge support and revenge assault, making her a tank :p

[dark flint]

This is the besttt imo

And u have special action reload + 8

• fixer

It reloads very fast for me

And the damage is also the highest from all costumes

Except beta. I leave beta alone

[candid blaze]

What do you mean +8?
AfO and Mic are only giving you +5% total, and then Fixer is an additional 2.5% from doubling AfO.
That's a grand total of +7.5% special action reload speed.
Nejire's SA only takes 8 seconds to reload to begin with if you don't exhaust it. You're only shaving 0.6 seconds off of that.

Personally, I also don't think the +4% gamma damage and +4.5% alpha damage granted to that build by Fixer is worth the special tuning slot. I think Space Hop would be way more valuable than that bit of additional damage.

[dark flint]

Oh ok. I dont know the maths but its quite much to me 😹 where do u know that percentages

[dark flint]

Well the alpha das 105 and gamma 148 damage at level 9

[candid blaze]

https://ultrarumble.com/tuning

[dark flint]

I mostly swift 3 alphas in a row. Thats 315 damage in. A second

[dark flint]

Thank youu

[candid blaze]

I can share the damage of my build later when I'm online, but I doubt it will be far behind.

[dark flint]

Yes its close but this is the highes

I guess

U cab show ur build

[candid blaze]

My level 9 alpha does 99 and level 9 gamma does 140 with this build.
But in exchange for that 6 damage per alpha and 8 damage per gamma, I get to use Space Hop which gives me effectively unlimited airtime. I can get as much height as an uncharged gamma whenever I want, for free.

[vocal mural]

I tried this build and it's really good. It's useful for escaping when they're waiting for your wake-up.

[dark flint]

Nice. What about gp sucker? Its not good?

But i like the red kirishims tuning a lot too. Ots like a second life abd chance when u get ko d. When u get downed while in air, nejire falls far away and she has great escape oppurtinities with her special and gamma.

I could imagina that wallrunner is fun too

[candid blaze]

It's only 95 GP per down, not even half your GP refilled.
I prefer Card Duplication to get stronger earlier on in the match, and also to have extra level cards to put into my Support cards so I can retreat into the storm if I need to.

[dark flint]

I understand. I enjoy to play nejire again since her buff . It changed a lot.

[dark flint]

When u cant rely on randoms. U need t carry

[dark flint]

How much is the hovering time on nejire increased?

[modest forum]

It didn’t get increased

The amount required to dash got decreased

[dark flint]

Soneone said hovering time got increased too in this chatt

[modest forum]

Unless it was a shadow buff then no it wasn’t increased

[candid blaze]

It did get increased. The patch notes (and datamines) only specified a change to the dash ammo consumption, but the way her hover is coded must be tied to that value as well. The same thing happened during her first nerf - the increase to the dash ammo consumption decreased her hover time.
When she released, she could hover for 16 seconds straight. The nerf reduced this time to 9 seconds.
After her most recent buff, she can hover for 13-14 seconds straight.

[candid blaze]

From 9 seconds to around 13-14 seconds.

Obviously it's much longer if you tap-hover.

[dark flint]

Yes bc its changed my whole gameplay. Foe nejire its so important to be up in the air.

[wet depot]

Fr the whole point of nejire is to be on air because then what's the point

If she's not in the air

[modest forum]

I didn't really have that much trouble pre buff

Being up in the air for her is not the end all be all

and in fact you're better not being up in the air in most cases

unless you're fine with losing all your health in 5 seconds by a yellow deku or red todo

[dark flint]

Nejire is defiantely no ground battle character….

As she gets the most enemies and chaos while catching them getting up while she is above

[modest forum]

Then you’re playing her wrong

Yes she is good in the air for her gamma and beta catching wakeups but that’s about it

You don’t want to be high above trying to alpha someone

[dark flint]

I think i play her very well as im very good w her. Ofc there are cases to be not in the air but there is no need to use beta on the ground. And her wavy alphas also hit better in the air. Her gammas surprise better from above

[modest forum]

They don't hit better in the air

They hit better close yes

but if you're above someone who's doing more than just moving in a linear direction than you want to be close

[modern matrix]

yup I usually bunny hop alpha bunny hop alpha.
She is air support character i think but get's punished hard if not careful.
And as a solo que doing air support is a detriment to the whole team if they can't back you up and just randoms in general.

[modest forum]

I just know what a good yellow deku looks like

so thats why I dislike the notion that Nejire should be in the air most of the time

[dark flint]

They also hit good from distance bc they track pretty well. But its ok if u have your own opinion and i have mine

[dark flint]

Everyone hast characters they are disadvantaged against!

[dark flint]

If she was not supposed to be in air, she would have another special and skill lol

[modest forum]

the alpha doesnt track

[modest forum]

brother over half the roster have a good alpha

to shoot you out of the sky with

[modest forum]

Not what I said

[dark flint]

Mine does. Maybe u aim not good

Of c it doesnt track like tech dabi but still i catch soo many ochacos and hawks and almights and rapid togas that try to escape

Its not a straight ray like bakugos alpha

[modest forum]

if it doesn't track like tech dabi's or tech denki's then it's not tracking

the alpha rings dont gravitate to someone

I hit my shots plenty with the alpha

but they definitely don't track

[dark flint]

Its ur understanding than. I played mtlady for seasons and i know what is DEFINATELY not tracking. Nejires alphas have a slight tracking while they are wavy

[modest forum]

no bro they just get larger the more they go on

I promise you they have no tracking lol

[dark flint]

Weird when i hit all those flying allmights and togas and ochacos while i even dont aim precise and the are far away

[modest forum]

send a clip

[dark flint]

I will take a shot next time

[candid blaze]

Nejire's jump is so floaty, surely the enemy would have an easier time shooting you while bunny hopping like that since you can't roll in the middle of your jumps.
You can't roll while hovering either, but at least you can very quickly change direction to throw off the enemy's attempts to aim/lead their shots.

[small wren]

Second game with her lol. She feels really sluggish though with Beta, Gamma, and Special Action though... Like- Once Beta or Gamma finally is able to hit, they feel fine, but is there a tech for either of these? Or do I just gotta deal with it?

[candid blaze]

When you're moving through the air with her SA hover, make sure you're tapping it on and off. Tap-hovering gives you like 2x lateral speed in exchange for very slowly losing height.
There aren't really any techs for her beta, it is what it is. It's best used for its quick knockdown, to interrupt an approaching or fleeing enemy.
With her gamma, bear in mind that you don't have to charge it. Charging it greatly increases its radius and the height you gain from it, but its damage is the same, so feel free to just tap it if the enemy is close to you/is right below you. Also, the charge for her gamma is cumulative. If you're in a safe place, hold a gamma for a couple seconds (not enough to fully charge it, though) and then let it go. Now the next time you use your gamma, it will start charging from where the previous one left off, which means you will hit full charge practically instantly.

[modern matrix]

Not for me, Rarely they fight back and mostly they run away soooo it's been good for me. And if i see a person is fighting back i put some dodges in there and melee's to fall down quicker

[modest forum]

use alpha more

thats your main attack

[carmine hill]

me casually scaring my non mhur playing friends

[peak thicket]

Ok

https://tenor.com/view/nejire-nejire-hado-boku-no-hero-my-hero-academia-my-beloved-gif-10189607271844812972

Uhh

[grizzled ether]

im joining the club

[unreal zinc]

E

[grizzled ether]

peak

[dark flint]

Is spacehop worth running on nejire? I mean i have my main build but i feel bored

[vocal mural]

It's decent, but she's so slow in the air that she gets lasered down easily with alphas like Strike/Yellow Deku. It's a fun tune, good for running away.

[dark flint]

Thought its maybe fun go jump high and spam alpha. Tech denki uses that same way

[night mason]

Is Nejire still even good? Been thinking about summoning for her but my friends said she's not even good anymore

[cosmic pilot]

I’m still learning her cause I just got her but I think she’s fun atleast

[dark flint]

Shes very strong. Your friend is used to non skill op characters

[grizzled maple]

She's mid

You roll if you actually want to play the character tho

Cause like meta changes constantly

[modern matrix]

If your definition of "good" is op, she might not best selection

[night mason]

Nah, by good I mean like

Not stupidly OP but still viable to work with most other characters

[modern matrix]

ok erm she struggles while using beta and gamma
but her alpha is really strong she def relies on tuning to make her somewhat viable and teammeates in todays' meta.
She average.
She fun though

[cosmic pilot]

Which tunings?

[candid blaze]

Absolutely. I think she's one of the best users of Space Hop. It massively increases her mobility and lets her save her gammas for pure offense.

[candid blaze]

What do you consider slow? She can move at like 2x any character's sprinting speed while in the air.

[dark flint]

Well i carry whole games with her. Idk why ppl say shes mid.

[dark flint]

I saw an tech denki using it and spamming alphas. Thought it could be fun with nejire too

[candid blaze]

It is. I highly recommend it.

[dark flint]

Ill waste my last rainbow stones😭😭😭😭

I hope mtlady doesnt get a new costume next season

[candid blaze]

Unlikely. Didn't she just get her party outfit last season?

[dark flint]

Its just 2 tunings and one it is completely trash

She has the worst tunings in this game. 6 out of 8 are green special slots. Very boring

Those reward costumes always have bad tunings

[grizzled maple]

The Christmas ones were pretty good, so was this szns bakugo one and that iida one

I think it's randomized anyways

[dark flint]

Sadly mtlady doesnt get many costumes like bakugo and allmight and aizawa, ochaco, deku

Toga

[grizzled maple]

Yea she only has 2 purs

[dark flint]

Yes and the last one is bad. The gacha costumes are better

[dark flint]

I did it 😭🤣 hope its worth it

I feel like i just waisted my tunings 🤣😭😭😭

Ok i wasted ot

I hate spacehop on nejire

[modest forum]

could've just tested it with one of her base costumes first

in training mode

[grizzled maple]

Try sisterly ig lol

[grizzled ether]

is it even wort tuning her base outfit?

[modest forum]

It’s not worth tuning anyone’s base outfit

Unless you’re using it to test special tunings

[grizzled ether]

dang, so i gotta pull 1

[modest forum]

Well she has a banner up right now with both of them

But I wouldn’t pull unless you’re actually going to main her

[dark flint]

Mtlady has so trash tunings that her base outfits had the strongest Tuning until embrittment got nerfed lol. Still one of her strongest

[modest forum]

not really

you can just use sisterly instead

base outfits will never outdo pur outfits in tuning

because most special tunings simply do not work at a decent standard at level 3-4

embrittlement was such a crutch anyway and a bad one at that

mt lady already does 100 damage with 2 alphas that she can shoot out in like a second

you can still combo people to death without embrittlement on her if they have no gp

[dark flint]

It was her strongest outfit until the nerf!!! There is no outfit that includes all these slots, I know what I’m talking about

Players still use it

Embrittment was totally enough with those 5 seconds

[modest forum]

Mt Lady's PUR outfit has assault special tunings

and again, you didnt need embrittlement to kill with her combos

I would know since I've tested it

[dark flint]

Oh gosh don’t teach me please. I know what I’m talking about. Go and ask the pro players

Is okay. U know all better yeah

[modest forum]

you're the one trying to tell me a 1 star outfit is objectively the best mt lady outfit lol

[dark flint]

IT IS. All the pro players only used that.

You have just no clue

[modest forum]

show me

[dark flint]

Ok

[modest forum]

I don't see Brinyspy using it

You might be confused by it being the best when there exists other factors such as limited amount of special tuning tickets for PUR and also not having her PUR costume

[dark flint]

Brinyspy used it most of the time

Than u just didn’t see it

[modest forum]

you're talking about her black one?

the normal tunings don't really matter anymore unless you're running fixer

and having a tech slot is eh for her

especially when it's capping out at such a low lvl

[dark flint]

No I’m not

But that u even don’t know that shows me that u have no clue about mtlady

Briny spy only used it. He build his combos around that

[modest forum]

Still waiting for clips or videos of all these pros using it

[dark flint]

Embrittment got nerfed

[modest forum]

If you can't find any after 5 minutes then don't bother cause I think I don't really care anyway

[dark flint]

There were 1001 clips

They above one

There is technically no other costume with this damage

And all pro player used it

Bc sisterly is a noobs tuning

[modest forum]

I know why that would be a good build back then

because back then you had stuff like tech denki's normal tuning adding like 30 damage to your alpha

now it's worthless lol

[dark flint]

Yep

All her other tunings are still worse

Fixer only adds 1 damage point to my alpha like a joke

I don’t need 1 point

[modest forum]

actually adds a bit more than that

you can get good damage with it if you get a good hand of normal tunings below it

like santa aizawa's costume

but that is extremely rare, though you can still get ones with 2-3 strike and 1 tech and rapid which would still be extremely good

[dark flint]

Yes but mtlady has trash tunings

My damage only increases from 53 to 54

Twice has also a very sick tuning with fixer

With a conplete strike column

Nejire has also a very good tuning that’s what I use

It’s amazing

[modest forum]

The villain one

For her 1st PUR outfit

I use it too

[dark flint]

Nah to mee it’s too weak. Reload speed tunings are unnecessary to me. I don’t really feel it

[modest forum]

Don’t use them for reload

use them for attack

[dark flint]

Purple slots are for reload

[modest forum]

purple slots have tech denki alpha attack

[dark flint]

Only that

[grizzled ether]

i feel like i fly too high as nejire

[candid blaze]

It's always worth tuning a character's base outfit just because tuning non-PURs is so dirt cheap. It's 1 key per slot and you get 50 keys per week off the login bonus, and where else are you going to use those black upgrade parts you get for free from the licenses?

[candid blaze]

What I used on Nejire before I got her PUR was her UA Winter Uniform with Revenge Technical and Camouflage.
Camouflage is a decent budget tuning for Nejire because her SA allows her to cover distance silently, and she can move quite far if it triggers while you're already high in the air.

[grizzled ether]

i dont

have it 😭

i thought i wouldnt get her so i didnt go for her in the event

[candid blaze]

What are your options? I'm not in-game and I can't remember which of the default costumes have no requirements.

[grizzled ether]

umm

default

and thats it

😭

[candid blaze]

I just always complete every event.

[candid blaze]

Not even other styles?

[grizzled ether]

let me load my game up

[grizzled ether]

i should honestly just do the minor tuning just for the damage

[candid blaze]

I think the default costume with Camouflage and Revenge Assault would be my recommendation.
Villain Style doesn't have good low-level tuning options because of the red villain slot, and Dangerous only offers Embrittlement for the second slot, which would basically only serve to increase your melee combo damage by 1.1x since it only lasts 5 seconds at level 4.

Other options with the default costume would be Speedy Civilian Rescue (only lasts 2.5 minutes at level 4, but could have some use if you prioritize civilians at the beginning of the match) or PU Turbo (5% PU charge per KO isn't much, but it's something.)

Default also seems to be the best option for damage tunings.

[grizzled ether]

yeah

thats what im doing

[modest forum]

Unless you don’t have a PUR outfit for them/don’t want to spend PUR materials on them for whatever reason then sure

Otherwise not really

and I just let them collect dust

the black ones

I really one use low star tuning to test builds in training mode

[candid blaze]

Well sure, PUR is always better.
I just meant tuning common costumes is better than having no tuning at all.

[fallow crow]

how do i play her

[radiant totem]

wow

[brave perch]

can someone pls tell me her level order???

[steel prawn]

Depends on the play style but what I do is gamma 4, alpha 9, beta 4, gamma 9, beta 9

Idk about others but most agree on the beginning part

[wary osprey]

[modest forum]

personally I do alpha 4 gamma 4 alpha 9 cause I like my alphas big first

but yeah personal pref

[steel prawn]

Yeah I like 2 and bigger gammas first

I think it's fully up to whatever someone wants just, beta is not recommended first🙏

[brave perch]

thank you! what does g4 do

[steel prawn]

G4 gives more damage, bigger radius and maybe height, while giving a second charge

[brave perch]

thank you

[steel prawn]

Yup npp

[cosmic pilot]

Is it better to have aim assist on or off?

[valid seal]

Make her alpha a little bit faster pls😭

[modest forum]

That would be nice

My recommended buff for her

The meta rn with all this mobility makes her slow alpha more noticeable

There’s a limit to what you can predict with aiming a bit to the left or right of where the enemy is

When everyone is spider man or iron man

Also on another note I wonder if that amajiki team up is going to be nejire dependent or if anyone can do it

Nejires being in demand to buff solely him would be funny

[candid blaze]

Off would be my recommendation. Nejire's alpha typically has to be led.

[lethal comet]

its nejire depedent

Only nejire

[modest forum]

Let’s go

[sacred hollow]

Was nejire finally added to tickets?

[steel prawn]

Gurl-

I don't think anybody getting added to tickets

Overhaul gotta come first then anyways

[sacred hollow]

I kinda wish the kept supporting the ticket system i would have been able to get shinsou by now

[steel prawn]

Exactly

Such a dumb idea

Still don't have overhaul

Still don't have overhaul

[candid blaze]

Or Monoma using Nejire's quirk.

[lethal comet]

yes

[modest forum]

in that case its good

god knows this game does not need more shinsos

[grizzled maple]

Maybe if he was free they'd finally nerf him(cope)

[modest forum]

aizawa still running around

they also just ONLY nerfed twice

after like 5+ seasons of him being free

and ofc all the 3 og trio doing great

[grizzled maple]

Yeah bc all these bums keep saying he's "hard to play" smh

That and I think JP likes him too much

[modest forum]

hard to master but they lowered the skill floor too much

[storm violet]

she so easy, i js dropped almost 8k damage

[hexed monolith]

Just received Festival Yukata outfit

Space hop on her is a must right..?

[grizzled maple]

It's good try it at lvl 1 on a non pur in training first to see if you like it

Cuz you have to like it

Otherwise it'd be pretty bad

[modest forum]

no

not a must at all

just would make your alpha shots harder to hit

[tranquil quest]

Just a casual reminder what the game took from us

[modest forum]

could still come to the game someday

but didnt really take anything from us since it wasnt in oj2

[tranquil quest]

I would much rather have this skin rather than the festival costume

But i understand the themes of the season so i won't complain that much

[modest forum]

im already pretty content with the idol skin tbh

casual nejire would be good too still

and ua jumpsuit nejire

[tranquil quest]

Those costume's are fire

[modest forum]

I'm just tryna figure out how to play nejire in ranked

feels like her alpha is too slow when you're going up against the likes of red deku or any other member of the trio and their fast alphas

[tranquil quest]

Best way to use her alpha is just predicting where is the enemy going
If you shoot where they are you will mostly miss

[modest forum]

I know that

her alpha is still slow

will play more

[lethal comet]

i see nothing wrong with this SS

[cosmic pilot]

I got the festival but idk what tuning to use for it

[hollow otter]

What is Nejire's best tunning outfit?

I was thinking Festival Yutaka fancy but idk

[vocal mural]

purple miss con or green

I don't think her Yutaka has any good ones

[modest forum]

miss con villain

[steel prawn]

I REALLY wanted her idol outfit but I'll just stick to my miss con villain😮‍💨

[wary osprey]

Every season, a new character that counters her gets added..

I really hope that her quirk set, whenever it gets added makes up for all this 😭

[cosmic pilot]

I like playing her but I’m so bad at her 💀 and I wish her alpha was just a tad bit faster

[deep beacon]

I won.

[modest forum]

lol that white variant really should’ve been her base

the orange does not suit her

[steel prawn]

I need overpowered strike or rapid nejire

Like if the big 3 qss all overlap from their og sets

Mirio is tech which overlaps with nejire, nejire could be strike to overlap with tamaki, and tamaki could be rapid to overlap with mirio

Make it real, I BEG 🙏🙏🙏

[wary osprey]

I really want strike Nejire

I’d dislike if they made her rapid but hey

A set is a set

[steel prawn]

Strike sounds the most promising

Rapid is just a backup idea

But I think I kinda cooked with the big 3 idea :3

[wary osprey]

You did!!

[cosmic pilot]

Rapid nejire yay

[carmine turret]

That big three idea is genius

Someone hire them

[royal blade]

What is the best outfit for Nejire?

And what are her best special tunings?

[cosmic pilot]

I’ve seen people say it’s the miss con purple one

[wary osprey]

Miss con purple

[royal blade]

So uhh

I don't have it...

[cosmic pilot]

Same I only have her festival lol

[royal blade]

Me too

So which one should I use from those?

I can buy any of them

[limber whale]

Me playing a character I don’t know how to play just so I can play the big three…

I’m not even going to ask for tips. I’m just gonna ask for your prayers cause I know I’m gonna lose on this character...

[cosmic pilot]

Good luck on your journey

[limber whale]

You can pinpoint the exact moment my heart breaks!

[deep beacon]

Any body has a Nejire matchup tierlist?

[steel prawn]

True, thank you thank you. I try

[wary osprey]

I’m gonna make one from my many experiences

I kinda went through this rather quickly so there may be a few off ones

But generally I think it’s fitting for a standard

[grizzled maple]

For you console nejires, have you rebinded the jump button?

[deep beacon]

I have before

Worked pretty for me

[vocal mural]

good ibara can shred nejire 😭

[wary osprey]

I find it easy to move around her alphas, especially with the new bird

Keeping away from her to avoid the other moves isn’t a problem

Against ibara you have to be pretty aggressive and consistent

[vocal mural]

true

also red kiri i feel like should be a bit higher

his rocks pmo

[wary osprey]

Yeah

[vocal mural]

not higher meant lower oopsie

u get what i mean tho 😭

[wary osprey]

Yeah lol 😭

I suppose it’s cause I haven’t encountered many

[grizzled maple]

Nejire tod ??? (No)

[candid blaze]

Why is Cementoss so low? He can't do anything to Nejire as long as you don't engage him inside a building.
I also think Monoma is a pretty easy matchup unless he has some good abilities copied, because his beta has a very predictable trajectory and some endlag which makes him an easy target for Nejire's alphas. I've chased down plenty of fleeing Monomas before.
I think Assault Ochaco is also a matchup in Nejire's favor because you can airstrafe out of the way of Ochaco's alphas while pelting her with your own alphas.

[deep beacon]

TOD a Mirio

I love it

[grizzled maple]

I just realized both kills in this clip were mirios

[deep beacon]

I love it even more

[grizzled maple]

I love your pfp

[deep beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/hoshimi-miyabi-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-big-finger-ok-gif-7518459764649260595

[grizzled maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361375148380524580/1396621507609759818/image0.gif

[modest forum]

endeavour and kurogiri are not decent matchups for her

imo

they can both punish her in the air with their betas

[modest forum]

lol just looked on nexusmods and saw like 3 good nejire skin mods and reminded me of your message

ua vest, ua summer outfit and her casual clothes from the hori sketch he usually does for all his characters

[tranquil quest]

Exactly

[modest forum]

the casual clothes one does look pretty good specifically

[modest forum]

I would show but this server has a weird stigma around mods so ya

[steel prawn]

That's weird and unfortunate

[modest forum]

well can always look it up if you want to

they do look pretty good

its all 1 guy making the nejire mod skins too lol

[digital garden]

Like some kind of type triangle

[steel prawn]

EXACTLY

[dark flint]

Guys i just figured out you can cancel and save your gammas lol

[vocal mural]

yeah with special

[digital garden]

Okay thank you

[wary osprey]

Yeah those are against the game TOS

[wary osprey]

Again, just my experience

Cementoss players building forts aren’t worth dealing with for me

Nejire’s output amount is limited as it is

9/10 monoma has some kind of mobility mixup, and a dangerous alpha which is easy for him to get since there’s so many

That along with the cooldown thing make him a bad idea for a Nejire to try and fight

Ochako’s short reload speeds and mobility with her alpha and beta make her tough, she deals heavy damage in minimal strikes, a good assault ochako can trouble any Nejire

[wary osprey]

I choose to avoid airspace when characters on the field can punish me for it

Though that isn’t viable in a lot of situations, the list is 1v1 based

[deep beacon]

Thoughts on my build?

[vocal mural]

i would switch tamaki tune for red kiri

[modest forum]

yup

I don't think tamaki tuning really does anything for her

[grizzled maple]

Top 10 btw 🥺

[deep beacon]

After today I'll be top 7

[dark flint]

Exchange alpha damage ok the right with GP damage

It doesnt add up anymore bc you already have 2 times alpha + fixer

• alpha defense makes more sense than beta defense bc nejire gets mostly shot by alphas when shes in air. Or HP defense

[wary osprey]

…That’s what it means?

I feel dumb, I figured it just meant you took less damage if you get attacked while performing those moves 😭

[candid blaze]

There's no exponential gain from stacking tunings of the same type anymore, but there's no cap on the addition either.
More alpha damage instead of GP damage is fine if you rely primarily on your alpha.

[dark flint]

Its just 1 point more or even 0 more lol. Gp does more for you or beta. I tested it.

[candid blaze]

It's 2% more, just like any of the level 3 increases are.
Obviously GP damage+ would do more for your beta, that's why I said "if you rely primarily on your alpha."

[dark flint]

The alpha does not increase 2% more. I have tested it. Not when there already 2 alpha+ fixer

Bc i rely on my alpha and it was not worth it. When i remember right it increased 0

[candid blaze]

You said it's 1 point, and 2% of 30 damage (one hit of level 9 alpha) is 0.6, so that tracks how I'd expect it to.

[dark flint]

No. Its in total 105 and when i use this 3rd alpha its stays on 105 or becomsed 106 im not sure

But its this 1 point in total max

I always look in total

[candid blaze]

Well it couldn't be come 106 because that's not divisible by 3.

[dark flint]

I think it didnt change at all. I have the same issue with mtlady.

[candid blaze]

Even if there were some kind of limit for the alpha, why GP damage instead of beta or gamma damage?

[dark flint]

When i use + 8 or + 12 alpha its stays on 54

[dark flint]

Bc the just the gamma doesnt increase either since there are already 2 gamma+ fixer

So gp adds overall the most and helps to break shield faster

Idk how you guys work with it but im always testing in training and writing all down

[candid blaze]

If neither the alpha or the gamma can be increased, then why not just a beta damage+ tuning?

[dark flint]

Bc beta stacks up the worst for me and i think beta is already very strong

Then i prefer to break shields easier

Beta is like 165 oR sth and with + beta its 168 or sth

Its so worse

[candid blaze]

You would break shields just as fast.
My point is that GP damage+ is giving +2% damage to your beta only when attacking people with GP, but beta damage+ would give +2% damage to your beta at all times.

[dark flint]

Yes i know

[candid blaze]

So you are deliberately choosing a tuning that is only improving your beta's damage half the time.

[dark flint]

But it adds up on alpha and gamma i think more

[candid blaze]

I thought you just said that neither of those can be increased further.

[dark flint]

To me the 165 and 168 felt funny

[dark flint]

I have there 2 times Hp

Sorry

I was talking based on hp damage

The gp increased with gp tuninh

[candid blaze]

Are you saying that the damage for your alpha doesn't increase when you add more alpha damage+, but does increase when you add GP damage+?

[dark flint]

Based on hp damage it didnt increase

[candid blaze]

Also, it is possible to get at least as much as a 14% damage increase to a character's alpha.
This build takes Tamaki's max-range alpha from 137 to 157, for example:

There is no reason that #1308720973289095168 message should not be providing an 11% increase.

[dark flint]

No its like that

Some characters damage buff increase different

I dont know. Guess its how the devs make it

As i said mtladys alpha also just increases from 50 to 54 with 12 alpha

[candid blaze]

Actually, this would be very easy to work out if @deep beacon would share his damage numbers.
We could simply see if they are what would be expected.

[dark flint]

But with 8 alpha and 4 tp its a little more.

This damage increase math works on every character different. The devs are playing w it i think

[deep beacon]

Mine would hit for 105 on level 9 alpha with fixer + the 2 HP attack powers and 102 on GP attack power

With the energy I have left I can make an example clip if you wish me to?

[candid blaze]

102 if you swapped Strike Bakugo in the right column for Strike Deku, you mean?

[deep beacon]

Yea

[candid blaze]

What would it hit on GP with Strike Bakugo?

[deep beacon]

I don't have strike deku so I was randomly experimenting

[deep beacon]

No

Damage was still the same

I only tested Tamaki's special tuning for the fun of it

And me being the Plus Ultra Junkie I am I'm thinking of keeping Ability manifest on for now

[candid blaze]

I'm not understanding.
There are 4 values in question:
Damage vs GP with 3 alpha+ and 2 HP+
Damage vs HP with 3 alpha+ and 2 HP+
Damage vs GP with 2 alpha+, 1 GP+, and 2 HP+
Damage vs HP with 2 alpha+, 1 GP+, and 2 HP+

[deep beacon]

I was also confused but in my mind I was thinking it was just training mode being bugged as always

[candid blaze]

No, when I say "I don't understand" I mean I don't understand the values you have given.

Mine would hit for 105 on level 9 alpha with fixer + the 2 HP attack powers and 102 on GP attack power
Hit for 105 against HP, or against GP? Are you saying the build in your pic is hitting for 105 against HP and 102 against GP? Or are you saying you hit for 102 if you slot in GP attack power+? In that case, are you hitting for 102 against GP, or against HP?

[deep beacon]

Sorry just tired ash rn but it would hit for 102 on the slot GP attack and 105 on HP

[candid blaze]

So with two alpha+ in the left column, and one GP+ and two HP+ in the right column, you were hitting for 102 damage against GP and 105 damage against HP?

[deep beacon]

Yea

[candid blaze]

And what were the values if you instead replaced the GP damage+ in the right column with a third alpha damage+?

[deep beacon]

Still the same if I can recall

[candid blaze]

Against both HP and GP?
The damage being the same against GP would be expected, but it should have dealt slightly more damage against HP.

[deep beacon]

I just tested it again and the values are still the same as when I had GP attack power in the right slot

[deep beacon]

102 on GP and 105 on HP

^
QS Alpha attack power

And the same as GP Attack power

So still the same value

[candid blaze]

Interesting.
I wonder if the issue is the alpha damage is sitting at like 34.6 for HP, so a 2% increase isn't enough to push it past 35.5, so it doesn't get rounded up.

[deep beacon]

Reminds me of the time Momo had this issue

Her gamma attack power wouldnt increase regardless of having 3 QS Gamma attack powers

So for the first slot on the right column I think you're better off just using a beta or gamma attack power up

[candid blaze]

That was a different bug entirely. Tuning damage increases used to not affect spawned effects. Momo's gamma, Endeavor's beta, all of Cementoss's blocks, etc.

[deep beacon]

Ohhhhhh

[candid blaze]

I believe it was fixed at the beginning of last season.

[limber whale]

I may have no idea what I’m doing, but at least I’m healing and charging cannon’s cutely

[plain furnace]

i got champion with 6 K.Os and almost got 10k damage 😭

[dark flint]

Yes and yes. And as it was fixed 1 canonshot could deal 150 damage. So they nerfed the canons now.

[modest forum]

regardless of tunings the cannons were still op

it could still tod

cause they basically had no knockdown

[candid blaze]

They had 150 down power.
The maximum damage you could take from cannons before receiving iframes was 500.

[modest forum]

I've seen people get TOD'd beyond that by her cannons

[candid blaze]

Then they made the mistake of doing a quick wakeup during the cannon fire and negating their iframes, or there were other factors at play such as low HP/damage buffs, or you are simply mistaken.
With a down power of 150, four hits would send a player into hard knockdown, and her gamma only deals 125 damage per hit.
I personally tested this in Training Mode even before the nerf, in response to people making similarly outrageous claims about the damage potential of her gamma.

[modest forum]

Player had 530 all together but momo cannon probably had tuning

anyway 500 dmg from a single move is outrageous lol

glad she got knockdown on that

the low knockdown alphas should get the same treatment

[dark flint]

The 150 per canonshot was with the right tuning. Without tuning it dealt 125.

[candid blaze]

The 150 in that comment was referring to the down power, not the damage.
Though 150 damage would be a 20% increase. You'd need Strike teammates in addition to tuning.

[dark flint]

No it was fixer included and the gamma buff tools are pretty well with overhaul and rapid bakugo tuning

[modest forum]

I mean yeah it would be possible if you got an overhaul, rapid bakugo tuning and another gamma slot or gp/hp slot with fixer

if I'm calculating the numbers right

[stable crescent]

@dark flint regarding alpha, there was this weird thing, idk if its still present, i discovered it when i was trying to minmax her shit-tier skins prev season. so, for some reason the dmg number wont change if you add 3rd alpha atk+ tuning, if i remember correctly adding 2nd tuning makes skill deal 96, if you add 3rd it stays 96, but if you add 4th thats when it will go higher. it made me think her alpha dmg caps at some point too but it doesnt. also her beta scales the best from tunings than other skills, like: 160 x 0.02 > 93 x 0.02 (or was it her gamma since beta is multiple hits of smaller damage that eventually build up into 160 🤔). gotta re-check all this but lazy i prefer shitpost first check later never XD
UPD. percentage aplies to all smaller pieces and then they stack so its gotta be her beta actually frfr

[dark flint]

Im confused 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[stable crescent]

@dark flint math at 3am on friday

[candid blaze]

Do you know what down power is?

[dark flint]

Knockback?

Knock down

[candid blaze]

I mean, I'm not sure what else about my post could be confusing you.

[dark flint]

When i did my analysis i realized that beta increases less but gamma increases a lot since i use fixer + 6 gamma

[dark flint]

Chunchunmaru confused me😹

[candid blaze]

if you add 3rd it stays 96, but if you add 4th thats when it will go higher. it made me think her alpha dmg caps at some point too but it doesnt
I imagine the issue is as I said in this post: #1308720973289095168 message
Where the amount being added by the single additional tuning isn't quite enough to round up to the next whole number.

[dark flint]

Yes mtlady has these problems too

[stable crescent]

its rational but it think byking maths different

[dark flint]

• 12 alpha just increase 4 points

[dark flint]

When you tune you get the most of quirks with high amounts

Mostly its alpha

[candid blaze]

Multi-hit attacks scale better than single-hit attacks, even with the same total starting damage.
This is because when an attack's damage is increased via tuning, before the cumulative % increase is added, the attack first gets a flat +1 damage. For attacks that deal many small hits, this +1 adds up for each hit.
You don't get +1 for every damage+ tuning, though. You only get it once when your attack is impacted by tuning at all.

[dark flint]

Yes I agree

For mtlady i liked the multiplying tuning more

But other characters became overtuned

[stable crescent]

ill pretend i understood XD do you say tuning apply twice? for small parts then for the whole

or is it like all damage values are made of 2 parts [ flat + % ]

[candid blaze]

No.
When an attack is enhanced by tuning, two things will happen:
The attack gets +1 damage
The attack then gets +% damage equal to the amount given by your tuning

Because of the +1 damage, multi-hit attacks benefit more than single hit attacks from the same tuning.
Imagine you have an attack A that deals 100 damage, and an attack B that deals 10x10 damage.
You apply, to both of them, tuning that gives +10% damage.
Attack A will deal 111 damage ((100+1)x1.1)
Attack B will deal 120 damage (((10+1)x1.1)x10)
Despite both of them having the same total starting damage.

[stable crescent]

i get it but i dont get where that 1 comes from, byking things? just gotta accept as it is

[candid blaze]

but i dont get where that 1 comes from, byking things?
Basically, yes. It's just the way the tuning damage equation works internally.
You can test it yourself, if you're curious. Even a single cheap level 1 tuning exhibits the effect.

[dark flint]

To make me understand i will talk in mtlady language

Her gamma does 169 maxed

And when i add one y increase it becomes 172

But actually its made of many multiple hits abd the last hit is around 105

How does that work?

Shouldnt it be more than becoming from 169 to 172

[candid blaze]

It should.
I'll test it next time I'm in-game.

[dark flint]

Im curious i will re-analyze it too

[plain furnace]

wait i might just be goated

[steel prawn]

Pookies

I got bored and made this, hope this makes good use to y'all

[dark flint]

Only good students can become successful heroes 🥸

[dark flint]

Is it now better when i replace GP with beta damage? @candid blaze

Ok when i replace gp with alpha its still 102 on gp and 105 on HP

It doesnt change as i said yesterday

Same for gamma. Because x2 seems to be the limit

And fixer included

So using beta is the smartest now.

Beta goes from 175 to 180 on hp

[gusty canopy]

Whats the best build on Nejire?

and level up order

[steel prawn]

@gusty canopy this is quite literally the best tuning besides maybe another alpha?? I'm not sure

[steel prawn]

Also up to your play style. I personally do gamma 4, alpha 9, beta 4, gamma 9, and then beta 9

[candid blaze]

I recommend Space Hop + Card Duplication.

[wary osprey]

[fossil timber]

[dark flint]

This is now perfection and completion

[deep beacon]

[steel prawn]

[wary osprey]

[small wren]

Had a killer game today- Did not have faith tho, had to revive All Might four times (he was Rapid)

[modern matrix]

Fun Fact, Factual,Undisputable Undenieable, 100% Proven Multiple Times, did y'alls know that if you spin (in circles*) whilst charging up gamma. It charges up faster and releases quicker.

[viscid saffron]

hey guys so i’m new to nejire and i want to learn her what are things i need to know bout her

[small wren]

So, a few things:

1.) Turn off aim assist if you have it on. Aim assist bad.

2.) Beta is NOT your main attack- Alpha is. Learn how to lead your shots first and foremost- and use Beta on anyone moving fast, groups of people, or when you need to knock someone down fast (and also for air stalling).

3.) There’s two main lvl up paths: lvl 4 Gamma first, or just max out Alpha. I guess there’s 4/4/4 as well, but I wouldn’t recommend it, as if you do that you don’t get lvl 9 anything.

4.) Spamming jump when flying is better if you don’t mind floating slowly down to the ground, as it’s faster.

5.) You can choose the direction of special action quickly by aiming, if your character is facing the wrong way in the air (I think this should work, anyway)

As for Tuning, I like Wall Runner- but you can also do Revenge Rapid I guess. I personally also use Card Duplication as my other tuning for the extra levels.

[modest forum]

nejire gang what could she have actually done here to not die?

[steel prawn]

Uhh

Willpower

That's what

[modest forum]

oh wait I posted the wrong video

[steel prawn]

Lmao

[modest forum]

this

that rapid ochaco had way more options than this nejire

[steel prawn]

Willpower and also dodging instead of only jumping??

But idk

[vocal mural]

Give up

He needs a nerf they overpowered him

[modest forum]

I think nejire still gets bodied even if they took away his recent buffs

[vocal mural]

Yeah

His kit is just better

Unless outside idk tbh

[stable crescent]

Hmmm she could wait for mirio tuning before queuing up and walk away on foot

Idk how you fight as aizawa but maybe roll dodge until he's empty on alpha then try to fight back

Or beta and flee

If beta and flee id then go to the surface and started charging gamma expecting aizawa to be chasing

In general id use environment to break line of sight since nejires attacks hit behind walls and they are kinda delayed but aizawa's can't. So you throw alpha and hide and by the moment aizawa will be there alphas will travel that distance. Same with gamma. Excuse my english

[steel prawn]

I think I've done that subconsciously but I'm gonna keep that in mind now

[wary osprey]

[ornate rivet]

Seems we finally got Nejire role

[vocal mural]

Nejire always had a role

[steel prawn]

Yeah it's kinda been there from the start

Like every character release

[stable crescent]

who's that pokemon

[ornate rivet]

well I didn't notice :>

[stable crescent]

omg its ||nejire|| guys

[vocal mural]

[ornate rivet]

OMG NEJIRE HIIIIII

[reef dust]

What’s the best tuning for the new fit

[steel prawn]

IT'S PIKACHU

[dawn minnow]

Ponyta

[ornate rivet]

yall what's the best tuning for Nejire in general? Like, best skin and best options for it?

thanks in advance

[stable crescent]

special tunings - willpower and fixer but after mirio release fixer might change to his

since its a better version of willpower basically imo

[modern matrix]

Her survivability is going to go up ↑↑ rocking both tunings

[grave rock]

what's her best leveling path and a good build for her festival yukata outfit?

[vocal mural]

gamma 4, alpha 9, gamma 9

[ornate rivet]

thx!!

[ornate rivet]

thanks for this too, I needed it

[stable crescent]

these are fine

[stable crescent]

this is finer bc of sheer counter

you see red you put this

you see purple you put this

best for blue imo

a bit lower in tier*
-# idk how much pu you get from the last one but having pu filled is always good

for yellow on nejire id go for this

or

other purples that suit nejire in order of my preference

greens - whatever doesnt matter

[reef dust]

K

[errant bone]

Stay strong fellow Nejires

[slate lily]

How we doing nej gang?

[ornate rivet]

I dont got her yet 😭

[dark flint]

Quick question to the good experienced mains

Is it good for nejire to turn off aim assist ?

[slate lily]

Using my quirk to to make it so you MIGHT get her (50/50 shot)

[slate lily]

I usually turn it off

[dark flint]

Ok thank you

[ornate rivet]

appreciate it bro 🙏🏻

[signal bison]

I would like to ask how good is space hop I’ve seen a lot of people use it

[zenith pendant]

It can be pretty handy but sometimes annoying if you’re trying to cram into small spaces from below

[steel prawn]

I never got how it was good so I just never have it a second thought tbh

[signal bison]

Ok that’s understandable

[dark flint]

I hate it. I think its just good for auto locking characters like tech denki. Otherwise i preder fixer and last will

[signal bison]

I need to know have I been leveling up the wrong way usually I would go gamma 4 then beta as high as possible

[dark flint]

Alpha is more reliable. Beta is just a nice to have since nerf imo

3 alpha deal more than 100% beta but im just a nejire pocket main

[signal bison]

I ain’t know that lol

Now I just need to practice leading my shots

[ornate rivet]

Btw today is my birthday :D

[grizzled maple]

Happy birthday

[ornate rivet]

Ty!!

[dawn minnow]

Hey Hey Happy birthday Mt Lady

[ornate rivet]

Thanks!!

I'm trying to have Nejire as my 2nd main but I don't have her yet :(

[dawn minnow]

She's actually the first character I ever unlocked and I hope you get her one day

[ornate rivet]

Thanks!! She's in my top 3 favorite MHA characters so I hope I get her soon!