Hawks

[remote hill]

A place to discuss Hawks: tips, guides and questions.

[reef rain]

LETS GOOOO HAWKS

FIRST PERSON TO MESSAGE HERE

[flint willow]

Wowow

[smoky river]

HAWKS AIRLINES IS OFFICIALLY OPEN

[modern snow]

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-academia-world-heroes-mission-hawks-fans-fumikage-tokoyami-gif-25610493

Also I rolled and Actually got twice and his Parrallel world skin

Hawks I mean lol

God in way too excited

[oblique grotto]

I plan on making an alt account to pull on him

[modern snow]

Double Melee Into Beta

[oblique grotto]

Hawks seems so good

[glacial shell]

WHERE ARE ALL MY HAWKS PLAYERS

Bro I love it when I'm in a fight with another hawks in the air

[radiant eagle]

Hi 🐦

[glacial shell]

Aerial combat

[radiant eagle]

We becoming real anime now

[modern snow]

Not bad for my first rodeo

[distant ingot]

Bro I managed to get Hawks on my first try 😭

[raven cave]

his gamma will likely need to be fixed, no hit detection sometimes when you run into someone

[novel forge]

so you get restored beta if you hit a dash beta but u get minus if you melee in the beta, and how do you do double beta?

[novel forge]

and the gamma explosion doesn't do damage but the feather hitting the people does the damage

just chasing, doing beta or something, then if u lost them for a second do gamma at the area and then u found them

also guys what's a good lvl order? u would be using beta a lot but alpha a lot too, so alpha 4, beta 4, gamma 4, beta 7, alpha 9, gamma 9?? at gamma 9 u get 3 charges and broader explosion right

[humble osprey]

Is the beta bugged or is it me? It doesn't stop when I stop pressing it

[stark crest]

You're supposed to hold it

[radiant eagle]

Long press button. Please read ability descriptions and go into training mode before using character.

[raven cave]

I thought Alpha then beta at first but now I'm liking beta first then alpha, it gives information to your teammates too which can be used to hunt someone down

[lament aurora]

alright guys

i had an idea for something a few days before hawks was released

he can pick up compress while compress is holding a teammate in his pocket

i would like to dub this the Hawks (Two)ah

[median cargo]

Hello

[novel forge]

yeah.

guys if you lvl up beta, will the beta melee do more damage?

[somber mirage]

2 x10

[bitter stag]

Okay y’all what moves should I prioritize leveling up?

[somber mirage]

alpha for sureeee

alpha>beta>gamma

[bitter stag]

Okay that’s what I thought thank you!!

[tidal flower]

Hawks gangggg

[smoky river]

I'm the opposite. Beta then alpha.

[dusty jasper]

Yes.

Beta Melee at Level 1 does like 125 or something

[smoky river]

I love his kit overall though. It's pretty fun.

[dusty jasper]

at Level 9 it does like 180

it's so much damage

[tidal flower]

Yeah beta hits like a truck

But I also like alpha for the pew pew

[dusty jasper]

I do Alpha 4 so I can actually hit my shots

[smoky river]

Mhm. Ngl though, hitting them gamma shots be feeling good.

[somber mirage]

I WAS WAITING SO MUCH FOR HAWKS, and now i feel so good when i play him

like bro is exactly the hawks playstyle

[white sierra]

I'm very pleased for you

[modern snow]

When I see hawks my brain goes awooga

[barren gale]

The hawks parallel world skin is definetly one of the best skins

[novel forge]

wow, thought it was gonna be lower

guys i feel like gamma i dont use a lot, so imma do like alpha 4, beta 4 for more duration, gamma 4, then beta 7 alpha 9, gamma 9

A4, B4, G4, B7, A9, G9. i wouldnt completely neglect gamma but guys how much dmg gamma does at lvl 1 compared to lvl 9?

[dusty jasper]

Level 1 is 90 while Level 9 is like 108 or something

but at Level 9 you get 3 charges

before Level 9 you have 2 charges

the size of the attack doesn't increase at all btw, only the dome does

the dome does no damage, just tracks the location of opponents hit

it's great for teamplay so if you play with friends maxing Gamma is valid

otherwise get it to Level 4 if you really want the damage, it does a bit over 100 at Level 4

[tidal flower]

Does anyone else on console feel weird that you have to hold beta to cancel the flight?

Feels incredibly awkward to me

You would think holding it would keep flight

[dusty jasper]

Yeah, holding it cancels it

and yeah that's kinda wierd, I expected the Beta attack to be attached to melee but I guess not

[novel forge]

okay then g4 for small range and bit of damage. how about beta whats the dmg at lvl 1 and lvl 9

[novel forge]

someone did double beta combo

[dusty jasper]

The initial hit at Level 9 is 90, idk what it is at Level 1

maybe 76 or something I forget

[novel forge]

i looked at videos and at lvl 9 its 100, and the melee beta is 180. at lvl 4 the melee is 152

lvl 1 beta is 81

and lvl 1 beta melee is 132

so getting beta to 7 is valid for the melee

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[novel forge]

thats double beta combo, how do u do it? @modern snow

do u press beta then instantly hold it to stop it?

[modern snow]

Double gamma into beta

I mean double Melee Into beta

[novel forge]

the beta into beta

[modern snow]

Oh that you just press beta again when you hit them

If you hit thek you start flying press it again and you'll do a spin attack

[dusty jasper]

he didin't stop it, Toga's Beta stopped him

acc idk what stopped him, but he took 10 damage

[modern snow]

Well yeah I touched tips with toga's beta and my beta

But I used beta again and then just spun around her

[tidal flower]

Am I dumb, but how do you ascend with Hawk's special action?

it just goes horizontal for me mostly

[bleak flume]

This is so real

People, to this day, don't know Mirio can fly to teammates with his special

READ

JUST READ

IT TAKES SECONDS

[tidal flower]

tbf having to long press Hawks beta to cancel flight isn't intuitive at all

[dusty jasper]

You never acsend yourself. You automatically ascend if you are carrying a teammate

[tidal flower]

https://tenor.com/view/hawks-bnha-hero-keigo-takami-gif-19616942

so i guess we have to use beta to ascend and alternate between

[dusty jasper]

yep, that's how you do it

[tidal flower]

gracias

[modern snow]

You don't

But you can ascend with hawks beta if you hit someone

[storm leaf]

saw someone was stationary when they picked up a teammate ... I wonder if you can do something similar to mirios beta where you can just stand still

[tidal flower]

thanks i lerned that the hard way

[tidal flower]

even if you dont hit someone you can just angle beta up

its like mirios alpha

[fickle dove]

Just in case u didn’t know

[grave atlas]

Just dropped this gem of a character, unsure about the leveling order and still playing him a bit poorly but damn it’s fun

[grave atlas]

This is amazing

[dusty jasper]

Compress is the best ally for Hawks confirmed

Alpha for offense

Beta for Defense

I never thought of that

[glossy viper]

Hawks please come to me :(

[candid kiln]

hawks isnt a person
thats a gundam

[glossy viper]

I need hawk to return his the truest of the true

[modern snow]

I love that with kendo

[modern snow]

Get everything t lv 4 and max beta

[unreal osprey]

Is Alpha Beta and Gamma the level up plan?

[modern snow]

Ranked hawks is so much fun

[lucid peak]

Hot take: this characters mid imo

[narrow marsh]

He's good. Not OP or bad. Just a lot of em in matches rn which makes him seem more annoying to some than he really is.

[novel forge]

i mean yu hit her with a beta, but u stopped ur beta and u just hit her with another beta

[elder crane]

lil tip for hawks, if you use an air melee while you're flying it'll send you forward more so you can use it to get some more distance at the end of your flight

that also works with mr compress gamma !

[grave atlas]

Am I the only one annoyed with the camera when using Hawks?

[raven cave]

in scrambles I have no clue what im flying into

[novel forge]

thanks

okay guys so this is a recommended level up order.

B9, A4, G9, A9

if you are more of a ranged player then you would want to get alpha higher faster so like A4, B something, G4 then alpha max

But if you rlly think that gamma isn't that usefull and you rarely use it in general, first i recommend you start using it especially when chasing people, it helps you give chase, at least get it to gamma 4 so you don't neglect it. gamma 4 and gamma 9 is when the dome expands, upgrading for damage isn't that helpful cuz it's 92 at lvl 1 and 115 or around that at lvl 9

100 at lvl 4

as an xbox player i wouldn't use my alpha a lot but a classic play would be to get high ground and have a clear shot at someone from a distance and spam many alphas to quickly melt their health. and since i would use beta lots and i want the beta to last a lot B9 is a no brainer. So personally I would do B9, G4, A4, G9, A9

btw i haven't seen anyone using hawks special action boost during flight

[modern snow]

Just air rajd

[lament aurora]

a tiny bit but after a couple hours of play last night i got used to it over time

this character is cool he can realistically level up anything in whatever order he wants imo just because all 3 moves are very useful in different points but also none of them ever feel useless

also depends on team composition

not sure if anybody has already said it here, but beta > beta works and is very very good

probably easier on pc tho maybe

[grave atlas]

How do you Beta > Beta

Beta cancel immediately and go for another one?

Or do you mean the attack during beta flight?

[lament aurora]

during the flight

im a pc player and so what i do is simply flick my mouse to the side quickly to turn completely around and beta again

ill see if i can make a clip of it later in training but it is practical and works always unless there is a wall nearby or it tracks anotehr enemy

you basically do a mirio alpha > alpha with the beta twice

[grave atlas]

Ooohhh I see, if you can make a clip it would be appreciated but I’ll go in training mode to test this out anyway

I need to work on melee combo too and figure out why people fall off sometimes

[lament aurora]

yeah ill try my best to later, i got pretty good at it after some practice last night

[nocturne ermine]

🗣️

[novel forge]

you mean beta, then stop the beta, then another beta? i've seen it before but i don't understand how to do it

[lament aurora]

no, because stopping beta (by holding down the beta button) spends the whole beta meter, so i just hit the first beta, immediately turn around since hitting it activates flight, and then press it again

[elder crane]

once your beta and gamma are both level three you can kill any 250 hp character that has no shields with melee combo into gamma into beta

[modern snow]

Show vid of thst combo

[novel forge]

oh.

[novel forge]

show

[upper cloak]

Proof?

[elder crane]

one sec i will take a video soon

sorry for responding so late

[grave atlas]

I’ve been trying melee > gamma > beta but have yet to land it

[elder crane]

you have to cancel the final melee hit into gamma when it hits the first time

[novel forge]

like 1 melee?

[elder crane]

if you fully do the combo it forsnt work

[novel forge]

show clip pls

[upper cloak]

I think I figured out a combo

[elder crane]

give me a bit i'll be like 30 min

[grave atlas]

It’s melee 3 times

You cancel after the uppercut

[elder crane]

yeah

[grave atlas]

At least it works for a single gamma

But the beta after gamma never connects for me

I need to train more

[elder crane]

https://x.com/na_afm/status/1838884677903626431?s=46

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this is a video of the combo

its where i first saw it

[novel forge]

what's combo

[novel forge]

how do you cancel it

[grave atlas]

Press Gamma

[upper cloak]

I should’ve click the last move way earlier

[upper cloak]

Still working on it tbh it’s annoying to come up with combos in this game 🤦🏿

[upper cloak]

Clean combo

[grave atlas]

Beta > Beta is soooo cool to land

[upper cloak]

Ikr

[modern snow]

@grave atlas

[grave atlas]

Thank you so much ❤️

[oblique grotto]

What should I lvl first with hawks

[lament aurora]

@grave atlas this is the thingy. should work on both hp and shield, regardless of level, this is the fastest ive been able to get it

[dull blade]

Hawks dropping the manliest of bombs 😂

[novel forge]

if u can hit that on switch i can hit that on xbox right

[novel forge]

Beta max definitely. the beta melee is too op, and the duration of flight is good at lvl 9. then u want gamma 4 for big range cuz next range upgrade for gamma is at lvl 9. then i would max alpha. i'm kinda neglecting gamma cuz i wouldn't rlly use it for dmg that much cuz its hard to hit and at lvl 1 it does 92 and lvl 9 110 so im like.... not that big of a difference. but the third charge is good but not good enough to neglect alpha. B9, G4, A9, G9. simple 4 step route

gamma 4 is helpful when chasing

[grave atlas]

Thanks a ton

[lament aurora]

just learned that with plus ultra it does 436 :P

[earnest viper]

This character is totally fine guys

[lament aurora]

he plays red deku btw ^

[radiant eagle]

Found a potential “glitch(?)”. If you pick someone up right as they get KOd you can protect them in the air while they recover.

[upper mountain]

stop making hawks your new main he's going to get nerfed

[grave atlas]

I don't think so for now, but even then, I wouldn't mind. I have other characters I enjoy and he's a ton of fun

[upper mountain]

The only fun I find is his beta and once that's patched he's going to be just like post nerf endeavor with his gamma

bouta be 50 damage per hit

[grave atlas]

I don't think it warrants a nerf

Maybe the melee combos can be removed if that's considered too strong for a blue character

Not that it is the strongest combo a blue character can do but still

Or maybe make his special action boost cost more special action meter

Or maybe make it so that doing a melee ends the Beta

There are options if you absolutely need to nerf the character without outright killing him

[upper mountain]

hawks can do 300+ damage with his beta and it's pretty easy

but the problem is, he stuns you so he can hit you every time with the beta

[radiant eagle]

Hehe . But he’s so fun 😅

[upper mountain]

at least wait till the hype dies down

then play him

If one of the developers ever feel his combos hawks is done

[grave atlas]

You can dodge between hits except the first two

and the first hit doesn’t hit as strong

But yeah he’s good

[radiant eagle]

Dabi was going no where haha

[lament aurora]

idc how much he gets nerfed i wanted a character with high mobility (i used to main froppy), a recon ability (i used to play siege and mained bloodhound/seer in apex so i love info gathering), and i wanted a character with all of these and a "gun-like" alpha this guy is perfect

i cannot wait until theres less people playing him tho lol

every character feels 100x more broken on launch when everybody is playing him and theres 8 in each lobby

[novel forge]

what's the combo

[lament aurora]

beta > beta

to do it fast enough to get both hits, you have to flick your mouse (or whatever you're using) so that your camera does a 180, and then with your reticle on the opponent you press beta again

since beta staggers for so long, they always get hit by the second hit

if you have a teammate nearby, they can also hit them in between the two hits for a practical kill from full HP on some characters

it does around 280 dmg but for some reason the move is inconsistent

[novel forge]

what's recon

i mean it's good since if i play toga i can play as hawks

[novel forge]

like beta into melee beta? the video won't load

[lament aurora]

like tracking enemies

[lament aurora]

yeah it's all one beta charge

you do the first hit, and then turn around quickly and do it again

[novel forge]

oh ive seen that

[novel forge]

but if u carry ur teammates does ur special actions duration slow down? can you boost while carrying?

i haven't seen anyone boost with special

why not? does it take more percentage of special actions

pls answer all

[modern snow]

U can't boost

Like at all if your carrying someone

[lament aurora]

you cannot boost, the meter drains slower, when you fly without carrying somebody, flying costs 20% initially, and roughly 5-10% for each boost

[dusty jasper]

Wanna see something cool

like 275 damage at Level 1

and like almost 350 damage at Level 9

[lament aurora]

oh my

that is so awesome

i wish his melee wasnt so inconsistent at times

[winged talon]

5th time

help

[modern snow]

Same

I've gotten mostly 8 kills with hawks

[glossy viper]

The hawk combo is melee then as he does last hit do beta into beta into beta ☠️

[novel forge]

thanks

[dull blade]

For my Hawk Mains on Xbox, what sensitivity are you guys currently working using for your controllers to land the Beta Beta Combo?

[glossy viper]

Not that im on xbox i use default everything ☠️

[fickle dove]

Ayyyy got I hawks any advice?

[steady monolith]

hawks needs a beta nerf for sure

to op

[arctic sentinel]

Bro what advice just level up your beta and alpha that's it

There is no advice bro takes no skill

[fickle dove]

lol that seems a tad salty but ok I’ll see how it goes tho thanks

[arctic sentinel]

Beta9>alpha9>gamma9> also is didn't mean to be salty

[fickle dove]

lol thanks

So you do like beta 4 alpha 4 then Max the beta is just that OP?

[arctic sentinel]

Yes

[fickle dove]

Oh I wanted to confirm something: can this beta go thru an all might gamma?? I was all might and swore I got interrupted but couldn’t tell by what

[grave atlas]

It cannot

Maybe if you hit them before the tornado comes out?

[novel forge]

how did u cancel melee

[upper cloak]

Gotta love beta

[grave atlas]

Pressing Beta or Gamma

No need for anything fancy

[novel forge]

oh okay

[modern snow]

Should I just change my sensitivity higher for hawks?

Like a little bit

[dusty jasper]

There's 2 hits of the last melee attack, cancel after the first one

[radiant eagle]

How hard is that to do on pad/console?

[dusty jasper]

I have my horizontal sensitivity on 420 but you can do it for way less than that cuz they're not able to move for like a second or two of you get hit by the initial Beta

[radiant eagle]

Gotcha. I Gotta practice it in training mode.

[novel forge]

yesh

[novel forge]

okay thanks

wait what was the combo again?

melee cancel beta?

[radiant eagle]

I’m not stuck here with you, you’re stuck here with me.

[modern snow]

To what?

[modern snow]

Wtf an I doing wrong why is track not tracking

[grave atlas]

This is how the alpha works sadly

[novel forge]

i have my sensitivity on like 250 and aim mode like 200 cuz i feel like i toggle aim when i have a clear shot yk, and i toggle aim to aim lol

[tired stag]

Do you love NYC

[radiant eagle]

I do 😏

[lament aurora]

Volume warning

[earnest viper]

Full Bullet Beta + Hawks Beta

[regal lance]

How is everyone liking hawks so far

Just rolled him today and got parallel fit with blue aura he’s super fun

[regal lance]

https://tenor.com/view/keigo-takami-boku-no-hero-academia-me-hero-academia-hawks-gif-18362794

[modest wind]

He's hella fun to play as

[tired stag]

Fax he is the only character I want to roll for

[modest wind]

I've rolled him 3 times so far I've been cursed

[icy sierra]

I’ve been tryna pull for his skin and I’ve gotten afo to gold aura, mr compress and uruaka😭

[modern snow]

@icy sierra get his ace skin

[odd sorrel]

Lvl up order

Just got him in 300 tickets with Last skin yes sir

[modern snow]

They'll say level beta then alpha then gamma

[hardy bear]

he nedda be nerfed ngl cus i just got 1 shot combo'd by him

and i was full gp and hp

[grave atlas]

How?

[steady monolith]

Beta

[grave atlas]

The highest amount of damage in a single combo I’ve seen is somewhere around the 300 to 350 range, this doesn’t one shot any character at full gp and hp.
Not saying it’s not strong or that the character does not warrant a nerf, just that currently I don’t know of a way to one shot with the character and no such thing has been shared in this thread.

[odd sorrel]

Idk how to hit with his beta without it caneling it

[grave atlas]

Single press to attack, long press to cancel

[oblique grotto]

I’ll tell you what he’s annoying to deal with although I have came up with a strategy with red deku anytime he try’s to fly to me I’ll just use gamma to maybe catch him lacking

[wintry storm]

anyone have any tips on aiming better? like with his beta
i feel like i always overshot or miss, is there anything i can do to help besides just keep practicing?

[oblique grotto]

I always miss to because the area of the stuff does not do dmg only marks them the feather part is the only one that hits them so yeah practice aim

[wintry storm]

ahh ok, ty!

[dusty jasper]

Keep in mind that the strong Beta attack goes in the direction of your cursor, so if you're flying backwards and aim Beta forwards, Hawks will do a complete 180 as if he was flying in that direction already

So I just aim at the enemy and press the button, I don't really have to adjust my movements as long as I'm close enough

and "close enough" is quite forgiving, his attack lasts for a very long time it's insane

[wintry storm]

oh wait fr ?

thank u 😭😭

[steady monolith]

his beta does to much dmg. he has an overtuned kit with so much movement and dmg tools

he needs a nerf 100%

in my opinion he should get a beta dmg and cooldown nerf as soon as possible

[grave atlas]

Just like every other blue character tbh

I don’t disagree

[steady monolith]

there are only a few rapids that need a little nerf

hawks is on a different level

you are trying to defend his powerlevel

i get this. he is very fun to play

but he is to strong rn

ther are always at least 2 hawks player in my lobby

that gets 10 kills and most dmg

on day 1 without any effort

a character thats rapid and does so much dmg in a short duration is to strong

they knew people saved for him and since its the 1 year celebration

they made him op in purpose

[grave atlas]

Idk I’m not really trying to defend it, but I wouldn’t want him getting nerfed and the other blue characters not being addressed.
The blue characters have amazing combo games that makes 1v1 super easy and mobility that gives them both chasing power and survivability.
If you’re not playing blue yourself you’re kind of shooting yourself in the foot.
And that’s coming from a Cementoss enjoyer, which isn’t the worst character at fighting blues out there.

I kind of dropped Denki because of blue characters thought, even if I can melt them the difference in mobility is far greater than the difference in damage

Blue characters should either not have combos or have combos but low base damage

At least Hawks has projectiles so you can honestly remove both his combo game and his beta damage and he would still be playable

[grave atlas]

Ochako having 300HP, being able to move constantly at very high speed both vertically and horizontally while having absurdly high damage on her gamma.
Tsuyu being able to use her alpha basically as much as she wants with how short the CD is and getting ~250 damage out of her air beta, which is easy to dodge but not that punishable.
Iida basically carrying you for 5 seconds out of a stray hit for half your life bar, dodgeable if predicted but A and B have different timings so it’s still a 50/50 at best and Iida doesn’t get punished for a whiffed A
Mirio being near unkillable if he wishes so. For a while he had A combos so long I could have a bathroom break before I regained control but I’ve been told the last patch removed them.
Twice still has great combos out of a 4 uses mobility option with god-like tracking, you can still chain them for absurd damage from a character than can put up tons of pressure with clones and harass from a distance
And Hawks, being able to deal ~350 damage out of a melee hit, while having amazing horizontal mobility and great vertical mobility, an alpha that can harass better than any other blue character and forces people to keep moving constantly, along with a great utility gamma and special action in team play scenarios.

Meanwhile there are characters that have ZERO options against airborne characters, red Shiggy is cooked, Momo has to jump to try and hit them if they get close because for some ungodly reason the A can’t be aimed on the ground.
Ibara has to consistently take risks for decent reward but appart from hitting air melee you’re not doing as much damage as a blue character combo.
Even characters like Red Bakugo don’t deal that much damage with the A nerf, the special action is on a 11 second cooldown which means they get chased and can’t chase blue char, and they deal at best 200 damage with a B > A combo.

Mobility, just like in many other games, is VERY STRONG, and the characters have been giving mobility without any regards to what their kit is.

You don’t have less powerful moves the more mobile you get, you just have a tiny bit less HP but you’re a moving target making you actually way harder to hit.

I forgot Blue Bakugo, I guess his B > Y > A combo is pretty strong but you gotta hit B > Y which often means buffering Y without having the confirmation that B hit which makes it a bit less strong imo, his mobility is bonkers too, I think he was super fine the way he was on release, now he can spam his moves way more for no reason

[grave atlas]

I’m replying to this btw

Not saying Hawks doesn’t need a nerf again

But the meta definitely has been blue characters for a while now

[steady monolith]

keep in mind new characters are always made op in purpose

for better sales

hawks is one of the most hyped character in the game

they knew it

rapid characters are not good at 1v1

im talking as a player that plays against top 100 players on eu

mirio got nerfed hard recently

you can easily catch him if you know the timing

after his beta or his charge alpha he is easy to hit

you can easily dodge his quirks as well

if you get hit by a little stunlock you most likely will die

[grave atlas]

Yeah for sure

[steady monolith]

the only problem i see is ochaku on good players

luckily there are only 1-2 on eu

they are very annoying but you can coutner them too by playing rapid yourself xd

in general rapid are mad for sneaking into fights

they are not made for 1v1

because you can dodge most of their attacks

expect for rapids that has alpha shots like bakugo twice or hawks

the real problem in the game are characters like red deku or red dabi

hawks will get nerfed 100%

i rarely see so many mvp players on a character that just get released

that shows how strong he is

i really like his playstyle since im maining rapids and supporters recently

but he is not fun for me because he feels to strong

i killed so many people easily by spamming beta

that killed my fun

its not challenging at all

[grave atlas]

That’s kind of the issue tbh

[grave atlas]

You can, you can dodge a ton of stuff, but dodging doesn’t deal damage, only thing you can do is pray they over extend

What’s your in game username?

(I’m in EU too)

[grave atlas]

1v1 on a flat space when nothing’s going on yeah for sure.
But picking someone from an angle they can’t check and going back to safety or chasing them to death if they flee does work.

[steady monolith]

Paxim

[grave atlas]

Okok I’ll try to see if I meet you

I’m mid af, not trying to pick a fight or anything

[grave atlas]

Those are mad annoying for sure and I wholeheartedly agree

[steady monolith]

if you play denki youre good

against rapids rn

[grave atlas]

I’m struggling but I’m not good

I’m more on Cementoss because I keep on getting mad playing Denki

Even though I like him a lot

[steady monolith]

he is harder to play against rapids

way harder

but if you enjoy him

if youre enjoying supporters i can recommened you compress

[grave atlas]

Compress I suck at landing his A but maybe I should try a bit harder because he’s pretty cool too.

I don’t have much experience on the character

Overall I need to try harder

[steady monolith]

his alphas are different to others but if you get used to it

it is fun

[grave atlas]

Do you feel like supporters have a characteristic playstyle that sets them appart? I’ve played a decent share of Cementoss and Momo, I don’t really feel like they have features in common

[steady monolith]

they have a different playstyle for sure

momo special action makes her unique. you can get an revive card for 100% and some good loot which makes her very good

compress as example has a unique alpha and can reflect shots which nobody can

supporters are very fun to play for sure

[grave atlas]

Yeah overall I like em
Even Ibara but she’s way too frustrating to plat for me x)

Overall isn’t bad either but I would’ve liked him to feel a bit more gimmicky (in a good/fun way)

His special action is bonkers thought

When playing as/with green characters in your team do you tend to keep more small potions to sneak in drinks during fights or is it not worth it even with the buff? I haven’t really tried it, I tend to use big potions mainly

[steady monolith]

with supporters in your team small potions are great

take more small than big potions

with small potions you can survive zone issues

as an overhaul main i stay outside the zone for being safe in 1v3 situation

so i always take small potions with me

which makes movement a lot easier

[grave atlas]

Oh ok good to know

Thanks

[steady monolith]

your welcome

[lament aurora]

hit ace rank yesterday with only hawks except like 3 games (got forced off by the new duplicate character system) so here's a mu chart

[grave atlas]

Nice nice

A good Kendo is so scary

I need to train harder as Denki I’m getting shredded by Hawks

[lament aurora]

most of the characters who do well against him have a consistent way to break his beta

for example, if kendo shields one hit of beta, he loses the whole meter

same goes for Ura beta and kaminari stun

hawks is like the only character denki special action is good against

it eats his beta and then denki gets to kill him or do like 300 damage to him

[lament aurora]

if you see a hawks dont be afraid to use your special action its actually pretty solid against him

[grave atlas]

Ooohhh I didn’t think of it that way thanks

[lament aurora]

yeah of course, hawks moves horizontally unlike most rapids, who like to move up and down a lot more, so setting traps with denki, including yourself lol, are very very good

[median cargo]

I need to see a hawks carry an assault shiggy 😭

[glossy viper]

I need hawks

[dusty jasper]

Everyone does

He's so busted

[warm pasture]

NERF

[tired stag]

Same

[glossy viper]

I have him in game

When i wrote that i think you will understand the context better

Smiley face

[bleak flume]

Me too man, me too

[vapid pollen]

Nerf this guy please

Since the season started i just died by some hawks using the same attack everytime

[modern snow]

I've been using hawks melee combo alot more now

[grave olive]

Hawks needs a nerf badly

[tired stag]

Just a beta nerf

[lucid peak]

Guys if you ask for him to get nerfed he’s not going to

Please shut up 🙏

They do this so they know who to keep op and on the roll system you need to pay for

Strike dabi overhaul and even assault shiggy still haven’t been nerfed

[tired stag]

Dabi was shadow nerfed

[lucid peak]

How so?

[tired stag]

You don’t keep gamma charge when you cancel it

[lucid peak]

That’s not much but it’s something ig

[torn cypress]

How do you cancel the beta skill after getting it right? I'm doing it sometimes without knowing exactly how

[bleak flume]

Hold it down

[novel forge]

guys can someone show me clip of melee into beta?

[grave atlas]

Assault Shiggy had his alpha damage literally cut in half wdym?

Overhaul needs a nerf? I thought he was ok for a character with no mobility but honestly I just haven’t seen a ton of him so I might be underestimating him greatly

[bleak flume]

Idk, even when not playing Hawks, Overhaul isn't much of a problem, especially since that gamma bug got fixed

[lucid peak]

He is…. His gamma goes through walls and the cooldown is to fast the stun is so bad if your caught in the wrong spot you just die

[grave atlas]

Yeah I can get that, I see so little of him and I think my characters just shred him so I haven’t struggled much

[modern snow]

Been trying to practice hitting the + on hawks gamma

[dusty jasper]

#1288433411568177173 message

[novel forge]

is it?

[novel forge]

tysm

[lament aurora]

yeah people fall out between the 2nd and 3rd hit pretty often

[novel forge]

oh.

i found new combo that nobody talks about it, gamma into alpha. if u shoot gamma from a distance u can sneak some alpha

[grave atlas]

Gamma can lead to melee too

But you can’t get both Beta hits after the melee

the first will knock down

[lunar scarab]

I hate Hawks...

[dusty jasper]

joined the server just to say that 💀

they are speaking the truth tho

[glossy viper]

Beta :)

His melee combo doesnt work on shields

[hardy monolith]

Hawks beta foes way to much damage I think it's time for a nerf on that

[glossy viper]

Hawks beta stuns you into another beta into another beta

[amber swallow]

Just make the beta knockdown after one hit.

[modern snow]

I love using gamma with hawks because it become a little gsme of predictions for me

Predict where the enemy will go and my gamma will make sure to actually hit them

[silk pond]

I GOT HAWKSSSS

[bleak flume]

Welcome to the sky

[silk pond]

Bro he is amazing I got 2nd first game

[bleak flume]

Fr, he's super good

This man lets me get away with things I really shouldn't

[frosty belfry]

I love playing Hawks but I am super bad at him (as every other character since I started playing like a week ago) so if you guys see me in your Lobby, I am super sorry in advance 😭😭😭

[frosty belfry]

GG!

[silk pond]

You in xbox?

[bleak flume]

If you are, there's a chance I've flown into you

[frosty belfry]

No I am on PC but I play with controller because my fingers are super CRAP hahaha

[trail wedge]

Who can counter hawks

[tired stag]

Overhaul denki

[trail wedge]

Thanks

[tired stag]

Np

[cunning fiber]

Picked up a down teammate with hawks

Is that normal ?

[bleak flume]

First off, W pfp

Second, nah, that shouldn't be happening, but you know mhur

[late storm]

you can do it if you pick them up right before they die

seen it happen from a clip on reddit

but yeah not an intended function of his ability

[silk pond]

Mw too

[novel forge]

guys is it possible to get 1000 tickets for free in 17 days

[spark cairn]

Is there counterplay against hawks? Idk what to do when I'm getting beta'd

[bleak flume]

Who do you typically play?

[grave atlas]

That sounds very, very unlikely

If you have already completed the battle pass and gotten to lvl 30 on the new reward thingy there isn’t much you can get

[spark cairn]

Deku, dabi, and all might

Strike deku and strike dabi*

[bleak flume]

For Strike Dabi, it's your gamma, your explosions are a pain and a half to deal with, and the grabs can work if timed right, since Hawks isn't armored all. Your final explosion can be an annoyance to deal with as well

As for Full Bullet, try and play around high ground, go for the aoe of your beta rather than trying to get the heel stomp. Play at a distance when possible, and make sure to strafe left or right to avoid his alpha

If you can aim well enough, you should be able to catch him with enough alphas to knock him down

[spark cairn]

I appreciate the tips! Anything I should do if I'm getting beta'd? Or am I just dead if I get caught in it?

[novel forge]

nooo. cuz i have 1000 tickets rn and i wanna pity hawks. i kinda just wanna roll for him rn but if i don't get him then it would've been a waste of 1000 tickets. so i wanted to see if i can try to roll him now and still be able to get enouhgh to pity before banner ends

[grave atlas]

Yeah I don’t think it’s happening

You can try and see how much you get

And only pull if you manage to get to 2k

But honestly you should be earning around 1k ticket at best per season, and that’s a high estimate

[modern snow]

It's interesting where there's a point I'm pissed off yet still in complete control to where I kill the enemy withing seconds as hawks

[modern snow]

Your typical Hawks will do beta spamming but personally when I'm fighting against a Strike dabi I tend to use alpha and gamma alot more, If I cant hit you directly that doesn't mean I can't hit you from a long range

[spark cairn]

I see. It seems like strike dabi is my best bet among the 3 I play

[sage oasis]

Hawks is fair and balanced

[novel forge]

guys the beta into beta melee combo, when do u turn ur camera, also what sensitivity for hawks

[novel forge]

nvm i got him on my 7th single

[grave atlas]

Congrats

[novel forge]

thank you. i need help with the beta into beta melee combo though. when do i turn my camera?

[bleak flume]

Start turning it as soon as you hit the person, then press the button again, and if you're fast enough, you can loop back around and hit em a 3rd time for funsies. The 3rd hit isn't a true combo, but it can be good to catch people off guard

[novel forge]

hank you. ik that the melee makes ur camera turn to where ur facing before ur character does it. but i've done the 3 beta hits before its crazy. but with hawks i never know where im actually going, i have to look around to see where people are and its hectic. i need to practice

[bleak flume]

Yeah, it takes some getting used to, for sure

[novel forge]

okay

[unreal osprey]

Yo that pfp is sick, my favorite pokemon:)

[glossy viper]

YIPPEE

[modern snow]

https://tenor.com/view/door-slam-ouch-gif-4905595

give me hawk combos

[bleak flume]

Someone's eager to spread their wings.
Alrighty, so, as far as I know, we got
Beta > beta (Shield and hp)
M1 > m1 > m1(1) > gamma > beta(hp)
M1 > m1 > m1(1) > gamma > gamma(hp)
M1 > m1 > m1(1) > gamma > alpha > beta(hp)
M1 >m1 > m1(1) > beta > beta(shield and hp)
These are the ones that I know of, and I'm sure there are more

[frosty belfry]

SOMEONE PIN THIS

[bleak flume]

I'm honored

[warm pasture]

NERF!!

[modern snow]

I need visual of this as well

[modern snow]

Learn to dodge, or else become one of us

[frosty belfry]

I never understood people complaining about Hawks, especially when players like me exist who die first and are farmed because I am obviously crap at the game LOL
But like, I still have fun, even though I am losing all the time.

Like I lose to every character but you don't see me crying LMAO

[bleak flume]

Tbh, most I'd nerf is beta damage

[sinful oyster]

Fair tierlist?

[bleak flume]

I understand where the outcry is coming from. The beta, when it hits, puts Hawks into free flight, and the spin does massive damage with a lingering hitbox. It isn't armored, so it is counterable, you just need to be fast. However, one small slip up, and you get punished for a large chunk on shield/hp. Pair this with his unrivaled mobility, and Hawks is a scary guy

[bleak flume]

At a first glance, looks pretty decent, imo. I'd personally move Kendo up a bit, she's unironically pretty good against Hawks atm, and is a solid character in general

[sinful oyster]

Sometimes it literally a true combo. I remember was on overhaul healing and he came out of nowhere a hit the first hit and I spammed the roll but and still got hit by the second hit before I could even roll once

[bleak flume]

Yeah, the beta > beta is a true combo when done fast enough. You ain't buggin

[sinful oyster]

Other character just destroy her like rapid bakugo

[bleak flume]

Not to mention, beta only puts someone into recovery after 3 hits

[sinful oyster]

Like it’s insane. If there in PA it’s like 400 damage true combo or something

[bleak flume]

The beta is the main thing I want nerfed tbh

[sinful oyster]

Yeah

The rest is fine

They gut mirio then add this🫠

[bleak flume]

Flight is annoying, but meh whatever, alpha is inconsistent and does solid damage, and gamma is a pure skill shot

[bleak flume]

I wouldn't say gutted. He's still very much so playable, I'm just super upset that they removed his combo potential. I'm a huge advocate for skill expression, and they took that away from Mirio

[sinful oyster]

I just feel like he doesn’t do enough damage

Without the combos

[bleak flume]

Idk, he still does solid damage, and that charged alpha still hits like a truck

[sinful oyster]

It takes 5 seconds to do his main aloha strain for “decent” damage

[bleak flume]

but I much rather would've had some of his damage taken away than his combos

I know you can still do
Alpha > alpha > m1 > gamma

[sinful oyster]

Like the beta into alpha string they can keep out since it was a easy combo

But the rest should stay

[sinful oyster]

Yeah

[bleak flume]

but like, all his other combos are pretty much gone

[sinful oyster]

Highest damage combo right now is beta into gamma

[bleak flume]

and it's upsetting

Just lower his damage a bit, that was my issue

[sinful oyster]

Like, there was a difference between a good and decent mirio player

I wouldn’t even be mad when I died to it, I would be like damn. That guy is cracked

[bleak flume]

I don't think any character should be able to become invincible or vanish into the ground while also dealing damage that rivals, if not surpasses, most strike characters

[sinful oyster]

Maybe nerf the time he stays in his beta

All tho I feel like his beta is really easy to dodge

It more catch’s people off guard

[bleak flume]

His beta is easy to dodge

[sinful oyster]

But I can be ok with his beta not being combosable

What but the rest should

[candid kiln]

I hate the flying move. I don't care if its "good"
I'd rather him do the flying feather blade attack and sit TF down

[modern snow]

I learned that Hawks Beta works similar to Kirishimas gamma

Where it basically has a lingering hitbox

[grave atlas]

It does stay out for a while, basically all the animation duration

[novel forge]

level up order?

[novel forge]

the m1 m1 m1 beta beta does more damage than m1 m1 m1 gamma alpha beta?

[bleak flume]

I do
B4 > G4 > B9 > G9 > A9
B4 > A4 > B9 > G9 > A9

One of those two, either way, beta is gonna be the first thing you wanna get to level 4 and level 9

[bleak flume]

I believe
M1 > m1 > m1(1) > gamma > alpha > beta should do more, but I could be wrong

[novel forge]

why g4?

[bleak flume]

I use gamma for damage and combos

and G4 damage at that point in the game will do decent damage

[bleak flume]

Since
Beta > beta
M1 > m1 > m1(1) > beta > beta is an instant guard break, it leaves them vulnerable to these combos I listed here

[novel forge]

ok

maybe i'll try b4 g4 b9 g9

but my alpha will be neglected

[grave atlas]

Idk I feel like upgrading g does nothing until g9 which is nice but not worth 8 levels early on

B9 A9 G9

g4 has nice utility to maybe detect a bit better through walls

But g1 does the job

Maybe if you are at g3 with blue cards you can spend 1 rainbow

But more often than not I get g4 naturally trough the game and g9 during late game

[modern snow]

Gamma actually does decent damage even at low levels

[cunning fiber]

How do you do the hawks triple beta combo ? I feel like the stagger wears off before I can even turn around for the first beta hit after the start of the move

[modern snow]

You just gotta be really fast about it

[novel forge]

ik but the gamma 4 and gamma 1 radius difference is so much. and alpha difference form lvl 1 to lvl 4 is 8 damage to 20 dmg. so imma do beta4 gamma4 alpha4, beta9 g9

i wanna get gamma up so that it does more damage and the radius is bugger

i mean the next time the radius gets bigger is at lvl 4 then lvl 9

so maybe i do alpha 9 after b9 cuz g4 is all i need cuz gamma dmg is similar at all lvls and the radius only gets bigger at lvl 9

ok imma do b4, g4, a4, b9, a9, g9

[novel forge]

i like b4 g4 a4 b9 a9 g9

cuz everything needs to be leveled to be good, and i like the gamma range cuz im actually now using it to track people cuz i would shoot at a wall and it wouldn't track at lvl 1 cuz the range is too short, lvl 4 helps a lot

[blissful finch]

How to get female attention as a hawks player?

[vague ledge]

Stop playing hawks, 100% success rate

[steady monolith]

by playing kirishima

[bleak flume]

Play Twice, you'll get all the female attention you could ask for(You're severely schizophrenic and the women's voices are all in your head)

[modern snow]

He's too hard girls don't want that

[glossy viper]

I love when everyone gathers around me emoting as hawks ☠️

[bleak flume]

Reminds me of the poor strike shig I took down. I took down his Twice and Iida in front of him. I came across him sneaking around the area to get his team back, I used Hawks's hello emote and then flew at him while he ran

[tired stag]

True

[main marsh]

Delete.

Straight up delete this character

Throw him out of the window

Toss him into acid

[steel current]

just got hawks today, what are his combos?

[grave atlas]

Beta Beta

Melee 3 times Beta beta

Congrats you’re now top 100 😄

[queen plinth]

Bullying friends in ranked

[bleak flume]

Someone's eager to spread their wings.
Alrighty, so, as far as I know, we got
Beta > beta (Shield and hp)
M1 > m1 > m1(1) > gamma > beta(hp)
M1 > m1 > m1(1) > gamma > gamma(hp)
M1 > m1 > m1(1) > gamma > alpha > beta(hp)
M1 >m1 > m1(1) > beta > beta(shield and hp)
These are the ones that I know of, and I'm sure there are more

[steel current]

thanks so much!!

[bleak flume]

No problem, gotta look out for the eyas out there

[bleak flume]

If you need any other general things, feel free to ask

[steel current]

yeah ill keep that in mind, thank you again

[bleak flume]

Anytime, now get out there and take to the skies! (Unless you're in my airspace, I will rip you from the sky)

[glossy viper]

Fried chicken

[novel forge]

i've been experimenting and this level up order works the best for me.

b4, g4, b9, a4, g9, a9

i do b4 to get that extra beta damage and it lasting longer, then g4 cuz at lvl 4 and lvl 7 that's when gammas area increases so i want the area to be bigger to actually be usable for tracking. then b9 cuz beta is best move and the move ur gonna be using the most. then a4 for some damage cuz alpha damage isn't a big difference at different levels, then g9 for extra damage and third charge. then alpha 9 cuz everything is max alr

[median cargo]

They need to nerf hawks beta stun. This is genuinely unreactable if you hit first before free flight activates he can follow up immediately.😭

[torn cypress]

Yes, beta does not cause knockback, and whoever does the action too quickly takes the second hit without reaction and can follow it up with the third one that kills haha

You have to put knockback like the purple Toga, then the next hits of the beta would be to try to hit other people or wait for the person to get up. Or if you're going to keep trying to hit the same person, give a delay so you can reactivate the beta after the first hit, then it won't be like "hit, turned the screen, hit again and the guy didn't even get out of the stun from the first one"

[median cargo]

322 damage off of 1 beta interaction without dodges.

Even if you miss one hit it only cuts 127 damage off

[torn cypress]

If he couldn't reactivate instantly I would think it was fair. He hit the first one, the guy came out of the stun, then he could reactivate again and keep trying to do damage... that would be fair.

What if you hit a second activation, cause knockback

[median cargo]

He can’t

Once it ends he has to land before cooldown starts

[torn cypress]

I'm not talking about cooldown, or the 3 attempts that the beta has. What I'm talking about is: after you land the first hit of the beta you cause stun and stay flying and can reactivate it right?
The broken part is that this reactivation can be done very quickly, even before the initial stun wears off your opponent. And of course, even after landing this second hit it doesn't cause knockback, so you can continue to cause damage.

So the vision would be different if he could reactivate only after a while of landing the first hit, and after landing a reactivation, lay the guy down so as not to receive any more damage.
Did I explain better now?

[vapid pollen]

Wow hawks alpha can surpass momo shield so fair😍

[glossy viper]

Wtf

[bleak flume]

???

Have not had this happen

Only time those feathers are getting past the shield is if it hits anywhere her shield doesn't protect

[vapid pollen]

When shield its set on the ground

The feathers just pass by him

[tropic estuary]

Yo I need a good sense for hawks so I can land my beta more consistently
Any ideas chat

[glossy viper]

I just use default settings and turn it up a bit i consistently hit hawk beta twice cuz when you do the second hit you snaps to where youre aiming

[novel forge]

have it a bit higher than default. try default, if it's too stiff do more and more. i wouldn't do it too high. rn i have it at like 170 or something cuz i like high sense but i need to decrease it cuz moving my cam to fast is a disadvantage

[tropic estuary]

Okay
Thx broz

[lament aurora]

For some inexplicable reason all the quirk sets except todoroki + hawks and maybe more can just shoot through all walls

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/1847292773738651929

my buddy was experimenting with it the other day lol

[vapid pollen]

They do their jobs on the easy way

[lament aurora]

i literally do not understand how this gets past playtesting 😭

assuming they playtest

[vapid pollen]

They prob dont😓

[glossy viper]

Pray for hawks if any nerfs comes

[grave atlas]

I've heard that Beta now deals more damage

Around 5 more per hit on both the initial hit and the follow-up

In any case, right now it deals 101 without buffs at lvl 9 then 181 for the follow-up hits, meaning you get up to 465 damage if you get the three hits

Special action still gets you super far super fast

I don't see a lot of changes

alpha gets you 230 before knocking down at lvl 9

[hexed ridge]

NEFT

[modern snow]

Caw caw

[cunning fiber]

What should I change my sensitivity to for hawks ?

[narrow marsh]

Genuine question to all the legit bird simps. How you feeling about this?

Oh

Gdi
Uhh the message when Hawks players give you likes and it says in the profile section of Likes "Well done, wanna come over?"

[dusty jasper]

there you go

[dusty jasper]

would

[narrow marsh]

Thanks, and lmaooo

[rain grove]

Which Playstyle is for Hawks good?

[bleak flume]

Run them down, can't stop won't stop

[rain grove]

What can Counter Hawks?

[frosty belfry]

My heart explodes and I become a giddy schoolgirl LMAO

[novel forge]

mic

his alpha

[vapid pollen]

While using his beta, momo shield doesnt damage him, just stop him for a second, but if hawks its not in front of her to clash, he surpass her shield

😍

Oh and he can pass by her shield with beta when set on the ground

[torn cypress]

All Might and Kendo are Good

Kendo's beta skill stops Hawk's beta and can return gamma in sequence, and has a very high move speed.

All Might manages to counter Halk's beta skill using his gamma

These 2 were the ones I found best, but Kaminari is also ok depending on where you are, you cast R first, and level up Gamma 9, you can kill Hawk very quickly after a stun

[rain grove]

Do you have more Secrets??

[torn cypress]

It's really annoying to see him from afar, you have to be careful. But if you see him using Alpha, walk to the side.

[sonic copper]

Just want everyone in here to know if you’re playing hawks I hate you

[crude lynx]

I hate myself for it too dw

[torn cypress]

There are no QA hands on this game, they don't make balance patches anymore

Hawk has not received any hotfixes yet

[crude lynx]

Hawks counter : baiting

[sonic copper]

lol this was after I lost two matches in a row because I 1v2d both fights I would have won if they second partner wasn't a hawks

[midnight cave]

Hawk Top 3 in the game

I fried this Deku lmao

[dusty jasper]

*Top 1

[torn cypress]

This Beta is a cheat

[late storm]

yup

[median cargo]

upgrade order?

[dusty jasper]

Alpha 4 (to make it easier to hit) --> Beta 9 --> Alpha 9 --> Gamma 9

Gamma damage is only increased by like 10 so not much reason to go for it if you're not playing with friends on voice chat

[bleak flume]

I do
B4 > G4 > B9 > G9 > A9
Upgrading alpha isn't gonna do much, and if you're missing his alpha, uninstall. Either way, if they walk left or right, the alpha will miss. The alpha will still do good damage, even at level one.
Most combos use beta and gamma, getting that extra damage on gamma is nice, along with that 3rd charge at level 9

Having extra beta time and beta damage is always a plus since it's the best move in the game

[bleak flume]

Here are some combos for the bird

[unreal thistle]

Personally I recommend beta 9 first then do whatever you want
The beta is just too busted

[novel forge]

hey hawks fam

[torn cypress]

This skill is crazy

In one beta u can kill the enemy

Lol

[steady monolith]

the game has gotten worse this season cause of hawks

unplayable against

first time im happy about an upcoming character nerf

beta dmg and hitbox nerf at least

[crude lynx]

All my friends quit because of him

And I agree with them

[steady monolith]

not only for non hawks havers

i got hawks since day 1 and i barely played him

it doesnt feel right to do ton of dmg by doing nothing

i felt bad everytime i played him

unrewarding

but thats my personal thoughts

its not the players fault to play hawks when they enjoy him

[crude lynx]

I have his skin on green aura

And I never use him

He's so broken it's never fun

That's why I stick to momo or ochaco

And president mic

[steady monolith]

ye

we have to wait for nerf

[warm swan]

#submitted-feedback message

Everyone like this nerf suggestion so it can reach the devs

[crude lynx]

Ty

[torn cypress]

This Beta should be more like the purple Toga, it hits, the guy takes knockback and then you can keep trying to hit him, but if you hit him, he takes knockback again, and of course less damage.

[crude lynx]

Then that would mean he'd need to be tech

[bleak flume]

I want them to decrease the damage and the knockback value

Two betas should knock down

[crude lynx]

How about they just delete him off the game

[crude lynx]

Honestly now that I think about it

Once he gets horribly nerfed

Ranked will be easier

Because people will forget how to actually play

[jolly cloak]

nuetf

[umbral zealot]

NERF HAWKS

[winged dawn]

Hawks doesn't do enough dmg tbh

Hes 250 hp so he should have the ability to do 250 per beta swing

And it knockdowns after 3 slashes instead

[umbral zealot]

THE HECK YOU MEAN BY THAT !?!?

[winged dawn]

His beta rn is just so bad

It does like no dmg

[umbral zealot]

Buddy

do you realize what are you saying rn ?

[winged dawn]

You do realize im trolling right

[balmy tide]

ikr it should do 400 dmg per hit

[umbral zealot]

daamn bro

[winged dawn]

See he gets it

250 dmg isn't enough

[umbral zealot]

honestly it does 400 dmg already i tested it

[winged dawn]

No

400

[umbral zealot]

yes

[winged dawn]

Per hit

[balmy tide]

hawks cant oneshot 400 hp characters with one hit so buff it

[umbral zealot]

0_0

[balmy tide]

and nerf endeavor he is too broken man

[winged dawn]

Yea, strike bakugo alpha just hits too hard

Make it do 20 dmg per shot

And knockdown after 2 shots

[balmy tide]

agreed

[umbral zealot]

nerf mirio's hp he's is too hard to hit

[winged dawn]

Make him 1 hp

Better not get hit right

Dw tho we will compensate this nerf by making his gamma slightly bigger

[balmy tide]

buff all might hitbox his hitbox is too small to hit him

[umbral zealot]

give him Mount lady hitbox

[sage oasis]

💀

Nah it should be 5

[cloud frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/mha-my-hero-my-hero-academia-twice-villain-gif-17843952866811043224

nerf him plz devs 60 days of just madness in my head

i hate hawks

I HATE HAWKS I HATE HAWKS I HATE HAWKS I HATE HAWKS I HATE HAWKS I HATE HAWKS I HATE HAWKS I HATE HAWKS

I HAD NIGHTMARES OF THIS MAN JUST ZOOMING

I WANT HIM TO BE DOWN COOKED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

I HATE HAWKS I NEED HIS BETA TO BE GONE

IM CRASHING OUT

but still hawks is a good =character in the anime/manga

https://tenor.com/view/sad-triste-hotel-transylvania-memes-gif-17815669965740676357

[cloud frigate]

dude are we playing the same game

[bleak flume]

What you smokin?

[balmy tide]

You know it's a troll right?

[oak tapir]

fk this character if u main him i hate your guts

[bleak flume]

I saw this at 1:30AM, I was tweakin

Imma be so fr

[naive belfry]

Remove this RAT from the game… RIGHT NOW!!!

[cloud frigate]

🍗🍴

[winged dawn]

After the tournament the bird is about to get his wings chopped

[bleak flume]

I hope so

I play Hawks bc I like his character. I wanna see how many Hawks "mains" vanish once he gets nerfed

It'll be like Overhaul all over again

"Wah, wah, my busted thing got patched/nerfed! Character unplayable!"

[tropic estuary]

Fax

[cloud frigate]

👊

[jolly mauve]

This character needs to be Nerf, you can't have another good game with this character in the lobby

I just wanted a balanced game

But developers are not able to listen to the community

Damn bro

In Brazil, My Hero Ultra Rumble has very bad reviews

I think in the end that was their goal, right?

[bleak flume]

Fr fr, people will preach that they love and "main" a character, only to ditch them the moment they drop from top 1

I forget their name, but there was someone who claimed to be the #1 Ochaco back when she was stupid OP, then she got nerfed slightly and the person dropped her and shifted to being the supposed #1 of whoever else was top 1/meta at the time

[crude lynx]

Same thing happened with a momo

Switched immediately to twice when hawks started existing

[honest knoll]

isnt all this ironic - people were over-joyous to have him introduced, now they wish he never existed 😭

[torn cypress]

Has anyone seen what this character looks like?

[lament aurora]

I will never stop playing Hawks, his moves are too perfect for me to stop playing him. I wanted a tracking move because I was a R6 player and Apex Bloodhound/Seer player so I love the mechanic, and I love having an actual shot as my alpha.

That being said this is how they nerfed hawks, so people can understand the somewhat confusing balance notes :)

Essentially, the first hit of Hawks’s beta does not knock down (from what I’ve been told haven’t been able to test), so beta-beta STILL WORKS but only once

After this, every subsequent beta will knock down

In exchange they gave him more ammo in his beta, and reduced how much the meter is drained when using beta during free flight

What this means:

Essentially, hawks isn’t as much of a combo demon anymore, and is much more incentivized to spread his beta damage across a team and find and beta the player who is trying to drink team heals as well

His beta functions a lot more like a hit, and move onto the next guy, hit him, and move onto another guy

I think hawks got off easy tbh, especially since he got buff-nerfed

[steady monolith]

finally i can play hawks without feeling bad

[steady monolith]

its not their fault. the devs messed up by making him to strong

[steady monolith]

bro you acting like he got nerfed to the ground 😂

they made hawks beta unspamable

which is good cause you could play the game with only doing beta

i was wondering on his release why his beta can charge up in the air. that was pretty hilarious

[lament aurora]

no im not, i still think he's very strong and i said we got off easy LOL

but since starting at the second beta they start to knock down, he just can't triple beta people and he can't beta beta subsequent people, which is how the move probably shouldve always worked

it just changes how he plays is all

[steady monolith]

yea it should be work like that all from the beginning

he still has the same alpha same gamma

hawks is still the best character in the game

pretty sure he will get nerfed again

making his alpha less dmg or less ammo

[lament aurora]

are you a PC or console player?

[steady monolith]

pc

[lament aurora]

oh okay me too

see i think red deku is a massive issue still lol but i also play with one

[steady monolith]

yea red deku is problematic as well

but good thing is only on good players

bad players sucks with red deku

[lament aurora]

Yeah

Blue toga is also very strong but it’s fair to say she’s too new to really know

My buddy’s who plays red Deku said with the new perk system his alpha can do up to like 145 damage

[steady monolith]

yea perk system is crazy

deku will be more horrific

i think good players will take something that gives hp back

[honest knoll]

yeah, I know that, I’m just pointing out some observations I’ve noted is all

[steep pine]

Best sensitivity settings for Hawks???

[lament raven]

Nerf hawkssss

[steady monolith]

he is way better to play against

no fly spam

only dmg is to much

but he is way easier to play against

thats good

finally i can play him

and not feel like ass abusing him

[lament aurora]

You play on PC?

[tropic estuary]

Yes Playstation
I need a good sense for hawks to land he's beta more consistently
Any ideas

[steep pine]

Playstation

[lament aurora]

Oh shoot I’m not sure then lol

I play on PC and I always recommend to people to play arm and play with a consistent comfortable sensitivity

I actually didn’t know console players change sens for different things that’s interesting

[bright arch]

It dépends , you must train yourself and find the sensivity whitch will be great for you

[steady monolith]

after playing the whole day with hawks

i can tell you

he is by far not op asnymore as before

i feel like they nerfed more

shadow nerfed

his beta get canceled by so many things now

and his special action is bugged

getting canceled by a little attack when you press special

and you lose your charges

[lament aurora]

his beta gets blocked by random moves that have AOE effects

they also shadow buffed him lol

when he betas downed players it sometimes does like 384 dmg

[steady monolith]

that isnt really a shadow buff

finishing off is easy with alpha anyway

but i never noticed that

he feels very fragile now

[cloud frigate]

HAWWK TUAH!!!!

[torn cypress]

of corse, but beta beta is very strong yet

damage very hight

[steady monolith]

the dmg part is the only thing they didnt touch on the latest patch notes

but its his main dmg output

which can be cancelled way easier

im playing with top 50-100 players on my server

so players gonna either dodge the betas or cancel you

he is pretty balanced now

which is good

[torn cypress]

brother, I don't know if it's your ping or excess skill, but here it only cancels with predict

[tropic estuary]

Mhm

[steady monolith]

i played him last season. there is a huge difference now

and this is even early season

with many bad players

if your beta doesnt hit (which happens a lot against good players) or it get cancelled (which happens a lot too) youre pretty much fked

special action is bugged as well

or maybe shadow nerfed idk

people will hunt you down

[tropic estuary]

What's ya hawks favorite costume

[steady monolith]

the chilled one

has actually good tuning perks

only downside is you cant upgrade to high

[torn cypress]

So, I don't know if it's your ping, your bubble... but here's another doll

You don't dodge by rolling, if you hit the beta you lose

and this match after match

It's hawk and dabi strike

but dabi doesn't have that much mobility

I played with Hawk last season until I got sick of him

[steady monolith]

of course you do lol

red dabi has insane mobility wtf

bro no front but i dont know your rank

but i play very often against top players

like i dont say im pro or anything

but i play against experienced players

and hawks doesnt work as good as before

red dabi as example simply touches you

and you go off of your beta

its that simple

he is pretty much counter by existing lol

hawks last season was new and had op beta which is not like this anymore

people got exhausted by playing against hawks cause there were so many

now they figured it out to play against

additionally he got an remarkable nerf

hawks alpha -> easy to dodge / gamma-> mostly for marking enemies

his beta is his movement and dmg output at the same time

so if you lose your beta during fights which happens a lot

youre not stronger than anyone else

[torn cypress]

Of course

Alpha and Gamma are the least of the problems, I also don't mind him flying everywhere.

What I find frustrating is suddenly taking 2 skills and dying

I don't know if it's because of my rank, or if it's because of the ping (I live in Brazil)

but reacting to that is very difficult, basically luck, and I don't have anything like that with any other character besides Dabi

[icy sierra]

hawks can’t run anymore 💔

[bleak flume]

Nah, he can

Quite easily

I've escaped so many situations that literally nobody else would have been able to, just bc I'm Hawks

[steady monolith]

it depends

not every scenario is the same

and which rank you are on

there are many ida ochaku red deku players

on some places they can catch you

easily

and i think he was talking about the beta

since you cant spam it anymore

[jolly mauve]

I CANT PLAY ANYMORE

[bleak flume]

Why?

[jolly mauve]

Hawks beta of 200+ damage💀

his melee Bruh...

Nightmare

[jolly cloak]

GG game broker Hawks beta 3 hit to die

what? I can do?

[torn cypress]

is possible dodge, different the dabi strike grab

💀

[bleak flume]

Yeah, since they made it so one free flight hit knocks them down, it's been a lot easier to dodge

Gives you time to make a decision

[jolly cloak]

No Hawks = good game

[steady monolith]

not anymore

you forgot to count nejire/red deku/red dabi

most terrifying players are good red deku players

[sage arrow]

Yep

[faint bear]

literally so broken, I’ve gotten kota 10 games straight

his best build imo

[tropic estuary]

I hv a dmg build