#Twice

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severe dawn
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this game is so cool i love it when they take the one character that i came back to playing for and ruin him utterly and entirely

south crypt
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that and the fact no one plays him

karmic jewel
untold timber
severe dawn
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||deserved for killing twice in the anime /j||

untold timber
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ITS LORE ACCURATE

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TWICE WAS SO STRONG THAT THEY HAD TO KILL HIM

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And they de-winged hawks because he got his quirk stolen

severe dawn
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Twice resurrection

untold timber
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Nope

viscid turret
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Twice feels terrible to play now

untold timber
severe dawn
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Hype aura and moments?

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Potentially

untold timber
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I’m gonna be honest

Twice in game has no aura

severe dawn
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I know he has no aura

untold timber
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He’s jam packed

severe dawn
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AND moments too

karmic jewel
cyan talon
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Why dabi?

spice pilot
karmic jewel
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Kill him

spice pilot
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Kill him let’s lash out at those who saw twice a bigger threat

iron cypress
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what are you talking about

spice pilot
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Next gets stuck into gama or alpha in battle and can’t switch to make a quick retreat

iron cypress
spice pilot
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Ok tell be how much does base deku do

iron cypress
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this guy went from Low S high A to high D, maybe Low C if you wanna highball him

spice pilot
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Bet it’s more

iron cypress
spice pilot
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Base deku does more then twice

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All I’m saying is that nerf makes twice as bad a normal dabi or hawks or choice pick your poison

iron cypress
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this is what i’m saying 😭

spice pilot
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O your saying the nerf was so bad

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Like I could se a damage nerf but that was crazy

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I can’t even cancel out a gama with another gama it just sad

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So I can quickly exit

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Calling twice a rapid was Already laughable but now you just can’t might as well call him a support because he needs his team to get KOs

cyan talon
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Atp rapid isn't much of a category

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Because non rapids have more movement

spice pilot
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ATP?

cyan talon
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At this point

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At
This
Point

spice pilot
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ya I mean some do
Like Monma but rapid generally are fast and can get away

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But twice is slower then so
Many characters that aren’t even rapid he is by far the slowest

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Well whatever this nerf was stupid

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I’m sleep

spice pilot
bold juniper
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I remember people argued Twice being a rapid because, "Uh, well, he has more mobility than non-rapids" now look how far we've come

cyan talon
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Quirk singularly theory is happening right in front of our eyes

uneven pike
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twice is goated

iron cypress
uneven pike
iron cypress
uneven pike
spice pilot
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True tho

fast lagoon
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#submitted-feedback message im putting this here for those that want his combos back it has some extra changes to make them weaker and give more skill expression to them but yeah if you wamma support it here it is

karmic jewel
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So we could only do gamma alpha ans then beta or air melee

fast lagoon
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Thats literally nothing

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The most advanced you can do now is gamma air melee beta

karmic jewel
fast lagoon
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I just want it to be a better version of what it was before so everyone can have what they want

karmic jewel
fast lagoon
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If they don’t want any combos they need to increase gamma damage

karmic jewel
fast lagoon
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But they won’t because they want to make the newer characters more relevant and overbuff the old characters for no reason

fast lagoon
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The combo is still range specific hard to perform and just sitting there spamming alphas is better

karmic jewel
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Ive been playing Overhaul and Tech shoto now tbh

fast lagoon
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I just want the combos back no matter how weak they’ll be

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The character was fun when I actually needed skill but now that I can only spam alpha it’s just boring

karmic jewel
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Insanity

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🥀

fast lagoon
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That’s why I suggested what I did

karmic jewel
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Its good

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I suggested to my friends just remove alpha into gamma, and keep gamma into alpha.

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Pretty sure a gamma alpha beta combo would be like

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Around 200?

fast lagoon
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They can tech after the alpha

karmic jewel
fast lagoon
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Theres no alpha cancel into beta

karmic jewel
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Dang

fast lagoon
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Best you got is trying to gamma stun then into beta again but that either knocks down or doesn’t connect

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When it does though you can go gamma air melee gamma cancel beta

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It’s just so impractical and so impossible to hit you’re never going for it

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You’re either going for the run up beta or just alpha

karmic jewel
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Still coping tbh

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And I wanted to do more twice bro 💔

fast lagoon
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Play mt lady she’s the closest you got rn

karmic jewel
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After using overhaul almost exclusively last season

fast lagoon
karmic jewel
fast lagoon
karmic jewel
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But twice is so dead 😭

karmic jewel
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Cuz I noticed how j had exactly 69 kills and my friends convinced me to commit to tje bit

fast lagoon
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I see

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Commit to the bit

karmic jewel
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Not that I would've gotten to expert anyhow

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But

fast lagoon
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I think you got it

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If I can even get to ace you got expert easy

karmic jewel
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Yeah true

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But you think you could do it wi5h just overhaul?

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Or tech shoto on the side

fast lagoon
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Yeah

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I used to easy

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You can do it with both

karmic jewel
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Probably switch lobbies

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Granted, I do well on crossplay too. But I'd probably be better in switch lobbies

fast lagoon
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I do fine on crossplay the problem is that my switch cant handle it most of the time

karmic jewel
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You either crash, or you can't keep up cuz of frames

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Or sum

karmic jewel
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Still better than USJ

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LOL

spice pilot
fast lagoon
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It does

karmic jewel
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But yeah

fast lagoon
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You need to run up beta

spice pilot
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Run up after they drop

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Is that what your talking about

karmic jewel
fast lagoon
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You can jump to do it faster aswell

spice pilot
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Ok thx ima try that

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But currently his combos are so bad

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And this one is not one you can get off consecutively

fast lagoon
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Not it’s not

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Combos like that are range dependent and just bad to fish for constantly

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Just go for it if you get the set up but otherwise try an alpha I’m pretty sure that still works

karmic jewel
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Idk

fast lagoon
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You can but only raw

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You can simply beta alpha

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But only one alpha

karmic jewel
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Hm

queen jolt
fast lagoon
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Yeah I was abusing that

queen jolt
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I won my first mt lady game sense season 5 with that tech

fast lagoon
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Good job

untold timber
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Since you guys are right now as good as burnt bread on a sandwich, I suggest a buff

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Beta clones now do not de spawn on hit

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They still get instantly knocked down, but they don’t de spawn

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Is this broken?

Yes,

is this probably a bad change

absolutely,

will it make him better

yes.

young marsh
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Monama enters chat

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Baking nerfs twice instead

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Also satire cuz i just read u want them to not get despawned on hit lol

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I come here as a place to view the folk mourning him. :/

untold timber
untold timber
ionic saffron
ionic saffron
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😔

untold timber
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Then don’t make gamma do true knock down and allow you to chain it

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Also, buff Alpha speed entirely unrelated

ionic saffron
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I just want them to nerf the DMG of his Gamma or Alpha and bring back Alpha cancels

ionic saffron
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I've already moved on

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😔

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Only maining Ochaco and Toga currently

untold timber
ionic saffron
young marsh
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A real sadmans parade in here 😔

queen jolt
spice pilot
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What trance blow tuning build would be good

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This my normal tuning

fast lagoon
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Cyberpunk I think is his best rn

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I know he has other options but that seems greatest until I go check the others and make a better decision

bold juniper
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What tuning, would you say? I'm thinking perception, but that might just be bc of the group I pkay with

fast lagoon
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I’d think perception or wall run would be his best options

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Maybe gp sucker aswell

karmic jewel
spice pilot
fast lagoon
bold juniper
fast lagoon
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Also btw it’s a melee tune so your clones can apply it

noble breach
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what are "tom ed's nails"

gusty hedge
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for anyone still playing twice, hows he feeling post nerfs, they seemed pretty rough

fast lagoon
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It feels pretty bad

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All you can really do now is gamma beta or gamma air melee theres next to no sauce anymore

karmic jewel
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I feel awesome! I'm trash...

cyan talon
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Kinda weird how they listen to only some feedback for nerfs and stuff

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Everyone complained about twice insta guardbreak? Gone.

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Everyone complained about monoma quirk reset? Nerf his hp?

bold juniper
cyan talon
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There's characters that aren't new that needed nerfs too

past valve
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Why they killing twice

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He feel so bad to play now

fast lagoon
past valve
fast lagoon
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they already fixed the fps bug which fixed the range issue tracking needs a minor nerf and all they really needed to do was adjust the alpha cancel so it actually cancelled the move and stopped more knives from coming out

past valve
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I was still able to whip a ranked lobby with him but he just feels bad to play now

fast lagoon
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but no people are just really bad and they get mad when thet get hit with a combo nd they arent allowed to move in the middle of it (because people dont know what a combo is for some reason)

past valve
karmic jewel
fast lagoon
fast lagoon
cyan talon
pure parrot
karmic jewel
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Guys you can still do the twice combo frfr

You just need a monoma to alpha them for you.

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Or your beta clone to lock in

fast lagoon
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So many characters have a free guardbreak but everyone only complains about twuce

cyan talon
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The second half is objectively wrong

fast lagoon
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And even then it’s easily avoidable if you have any braincells at all

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Unlike iida who can sprint you down and take out not only your guard but part of you hp with one combo and keep you there

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Oh but twice is broken because people don’t know how to walk away from a fight and they get punished for it

cyan talon
fast lagoon
fast lagoon
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And guess what it’s not even a problem because he has better mobility that twice without recipro

fast lagoon
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Let that sink in

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now get better and stop complaining

cyan talon
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You can't disengage from a fight always

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The best option for fighting a character shouldn't be disengage

pure parrot
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It's not like any of this matters now

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Twice is dogass in his current state

fast lagoon
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Because bad players kept complaining

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They’re mad they’re not allowed to make bad decisions and win

fast lagoon
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You’re just incorrect

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There are many situations where a fighting character wants to disengage most common is they don’t want to die

cyan talon
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So your saying nobody should fight twice

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Just run away

fast lagoon
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You can fight twice you just have to zone him out

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All he can do is try to shoot you if you’re out of combo range

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I’m saying is stupid that people are complaining because they got punished for making poor decisions

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It’s like challenging a momo indoors and thinking that it’ll go well it’s just pure stupidity

cyan talon
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Twice can still close the distance easily

fast lagoon
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Once

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And then he can’t escape

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All he can do is melee

cyan talon
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Clone

fast lagoon
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That doesn’t close distance idiot

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Thats extra firepower

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That’s not even reliable because it’s one shot and they’re dead

cyan talon
karmic jewel
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They honestly could have just gutted the alpha damage or sum

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Not kill his entire kit

fast lagoon
cyan talon
karmic jewel
cyan talon
karmic jewel
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His beta clone

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Its somewhat inconsistent

cyan talon
karmic jewel
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The beta clone either melting mfs or just standing there doing nun

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There's no in between

fast lagoon
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His current kit is not built around clones

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He has clones and thats it

karmic jewel
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Which I guess it good for solos, but he now needs his teammates to do the heavy work for him

fast lagoon
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The skill set should be built more around clones and the original kit should be built on the combos

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Qss should have him throw clones or something like that

karmic jewel
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Monoma can copy his teammates already

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So it's not far-fetched

fast lagoon
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Monoma is already broken because he can be a second teammate even if the third is dumb it’d still be broken

karmic jewel
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Cloned allies that last shorter than the beta clone from rapid twice

pure parrot
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Monoma either shouldn't be able to clone allies or only clone allies imo

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Copy*

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I'd prefer if he wasn't able to

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Double grab comps make this game so unfun

velvet vale
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Anybody got a good build idea for a twice player who started at beta and STILL hasn't gotten a costume for him?

ionic saffron
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Twice players still exist?

velvet vale
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Rude, but yes

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Im still kicking

fast lagoon
velvet vale
fast lagoon
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It gives him damage and his only good tune rn

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Only issue is that it has a longer cd but I think you can manage it’s not horrible

velvet vale
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Ik that there will be a heat for cyberpunk later

fast lagoon
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The tunes for that one are actually horrible don’t run it

velvet vale
fast lagoon
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Default cyberpunk is leagues better because it’s tunes are mid and it’s special tunes are good

velvet vale
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Should I swap the PU charge?

fast lagoon
velvet vale
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Ima need shinso

fast lagoon
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Just so that you can do actual damage

fast lagoon
velvet vale
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Yeah and his main combo has to do with melee

velvet vale
fast lagoon
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It’s that he doesn’t have his combos now so the only good reliable way to get damage now is to melee and spam alphas

fast lagoon
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I still keep up and know how he works though so I can help whenever is needed

velvet vale
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Oh

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Still

fast lagoon
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I just want the combos back no matter how weak they are hopefully they actually do the change of bringing back the cancels but just changing how they work

velvet vale
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Yeah agreed

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Yknow what they should do to revive twice as well?

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Make a QSS for him

fast lagoon
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And make that one around clones and keep the base kit around combos

velvet vale
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YES

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Great minds think alike my friend

fast lagoon
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They can’t make the current kit around clones now because they are just bad and only actually good in combos or against idiots

velvet vale
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Although the old combos need to be back for him to be revived absolutely

fast lagoon
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It’s just that he was an a established combo character and since they took that away hes just bad

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It’s like if aizawa lost all his combos and nothing was true hed just be awful

ionic saffron
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I am suprised

velvet vale
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Idk i just said what I thought, sorry

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Im very tired rn

ionic saffron
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Dw

velvet vale
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Does anybody here actually main twice besides me?

minor terrace
velvet vale
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Oh

fast lagoon
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I used to be incredibly good but now I don’t play him as I find him boring

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I bet I can still be really good if I wanted to play him but I really don’t like him anymore

bold juniper
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Yeah, I wanted a change to Twice. However, they did Twice the same way they did Mirio and Hawks. They just said, "Oh, you guys don't like the combo? What if we just made it so combos can't happen? We hope you continue to support My Hero Ultra Rumble!"

karmic jewel
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Should have taken the alpha into gamma thing

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And kept gamma into alpha

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So that gamma alpha beta could still be used

bold juniper
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Personally, I think Twice has a poorly designed kit

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Disable tracking, nobody plays him bc a large amount of mhur players are allergic to aiming their own skills. Add tracking, and you get what we have now. He's a combo character who had no real combo variety

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It was always G > A > G > B/or air melee

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If you wanted to get spicy
A > G > A > G > B

karmic jewel
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Although for thematics, putting Twice in the same spot as Rabid Toga is rather funny.

sinful aurora
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Oh my God. They killed Twice just like Hawks did.

fast lagoon
trim surge
fast lagoon
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hey thats me

trim surge
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I couldn't get a clip before his nerf
I had to borrow yours lol

fast lagoon
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i have a better one and its in game

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hold on

trim surge
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I honestly didnt think they'd nerf him
Well at least THIS hard

fast lagoon
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I’m just waiting for the combos to come back

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post fps fix too

trim surge
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I never even really did his touch of death when I played Twice
I mostly just did alpha gamma beta
Landing gammas now is honestly hard
Alpha into gamma pseudo-extended his range

fast lagoon
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i was still able to pull off a tod combo

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hold on its pre fps fix but itd work the same eitherw way

trim surge
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I agree he's just an alpha bot now
I even tried to get creative by using clone alphas in my combos but they'd just get killed in one hit

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Thats not what I really enjoyed about him

fast lagoon
trim surge
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I agree
Bring his combos back
Idc if they gut the damage
His combos were fun to do

fast lagoon
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I can still play him but I don’t like him anymore

trim surge
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Same
I love Twice as a character
But they ruined him

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I can still play him too
But I ran into a Twice fishing for raw melees and I was like omg I feel terrible for this character

fast lagoon
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I think they should just have the alpha cancel cancel the alpha after the last knife they threw out which will drastically reduce the damage because you want to cancel it early but give more skill expression as you’ll get more damage but more committal combos or faster combos but less damage while still having all your different combos for different situations

trim surge
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They took away his glue
Now he just has 3 moves that don't work together

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I kinda stopped playing him even before his nerf once I got Rapid Bakugo as he became my dedicated rapid
But I do enjoy playing Twice and I tried to play him but hes just an incomplete mess now

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Feeling the way I felt when Smash Ultimate first came out
I was a Bayo main
And before her buffs
She was completely dysfunctional
Thankfully they fixed her
I really hope the same happens to Twice

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I understand she needed nerfs cuz S4 Bayo 💀
But the extent they went to on Ult release left her completely worthless

fast lagoon
# trim surge I kinda stopped playing him even before his nerf once I got Rapid Bakugo as he b...

ive been a twice main for a long time i slept on him for a bit and decided to try him for a few games then i realized what i was doing compared to the other guys started to get clowned on dropped him for a bit got in a conversation about him shown the dude some cool things he can do he started saying some bs i got mad and decided i will be the best twice to show people you can be good at him

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i bet i can maintain my position rn but i just dont like him like before at all

karmic jewel
fast lagoon
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unheard of

karmic jewel
karmic jewel
fast lagoon
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shredded

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wow

karmic jewel
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Almost won but faced tamaki

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💔

karmic jewel
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@fast lagoon space hop Electrification

fast lagoon
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Really bad fit though

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Don’t run it

karmic jewel
fast lagoon
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The tuning

karmic jewel
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Idk why that Bakugo didnt try healing first

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But

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Meh

fast lagoon
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Yeah he seemed slow on the heal

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Or at the very least a counterattack

karmic jewel
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Ngl having fun with twice

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Im making it work

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The level path im using is getting everything to four, before maxing out gamma, and then beta.

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Or alpha if you feel more confident in your aim

fast lagoon
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But cant you see why current twice is so bad

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He has the same problem of if you don’t wanna get combod (which does no damage lol) you can just avoid him and beamer twice is just really bad

karmic jewel
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Oh yeah definitely

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But perception really carries my playstyle

fast lagoon
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Don’t get me wrong those are good but you can see why he needs to get rebuffed

karmic jewel
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Unless its another rapid twice can keep up with them

fast lagoon
karmic jewel
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Alpha into gamma can stay removed

fast lagoon
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He should have everything back with the cancels adjusted

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It’d make those combos way weaker without killing alpha or making him broken

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And nerf gamma tracking

karmic jewel
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Tbh the tracking does too much for its own good sometimes

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Maybe its a skill issue on my.part

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But

fast lagoon
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No it screwed me up a lot too

karmic jewel
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I do want old twice combos back

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But id be lying if I said I wasnt enjoying this playstyke for twice a little more

fast lagoon
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You could do that before too

karmic jewel
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True I could have

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But thats with the option to do so

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Now im sort of forced

fast lagoon
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I don’t really like that tbh

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You should have options for characters

karmic jewel
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True

fast lagoon
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Like Beamer frog assassin frog or support frog yknow

karmic jewel
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Yeah

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I do tend to take a support role more often with twice

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Like im helping clean fights up

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Its usually why I get KOs and not nearly a lot of samage

dapper geyser
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very happy to see people are still playing twice

karmic jewel
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But for pro rank and others

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Imma use overhaul

dapper geyser
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fair

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im playing him till tokoyami comes out

karmic jewel
dapper geyser
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cant wait

karmic jewel
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||Its either him or Jirou to start off 2nd anniversary im pretty sure.||

dapper geyser
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kinda hope its jiro first so i have more time to save

karmic jewel
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Ngl valid

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Im saving for Jirou, myself.

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I want the ace reward twice outfit

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I wanna do embrit space hop

dapper geyser
karmic jewel
severe dawn
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Suffering builds character Suffering builds character Suffering builds character

young marsh
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ik this guy ded, but i still enjoy him on small. im testing fixer revenge dabi beta max

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i hvant used his gamma since nerf fr. prolly will just max alpha 2nd and hope i get gammas till its like 2/3 then ill use a lvl if i get it

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its that or toga/afo and snowball. idk what duble purp combo i wana run. used to do that but u used to be able to kill too

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if i had infinite tunnings id try to look for a build with suneater but idk wat

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maybe red/purp

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idk man

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im pickin this guy up when ded lol

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same with denki

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(he aint ded tho)

karmic jewel
young marsh
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i dont wana waste lvls or i would cuz gamma is buns, alpha is basically buns now u cant combo.

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cuz no 1 is hitting more than 1/3 of alpha on moving target lets b real

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on average half at best

karmic jewel
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I max gamma out more normally so I can chase after.

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I do wish he could get his gamma combos back

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But depending on your tuning build

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He can still dominate

young marsh
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i usually play supports so i never get to use green cards. it feels so goood being able to.
how much ur beta clone alphas do?

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first down was beta. but i also clipped cuz i sitll dont know how to make it insta attack

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it did it here

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aight fixer / afo i think will be better for snowball sake

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and now u can get gp power on yellow, thats 4% more dm gthan it used to be on gp

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perception is a good choice too but the basic tunings on this build is basically max dmg. 4 red 1 yellow.

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thats on the left side only

young marsh
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aight fixer is like w.e 2x3 more alpha dmg on gp , 3x2 on hp. he needs more dmg i think its not enuf toronud it up

queen jolt
fast lagoon
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not deku mt lady

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at least deku can just beam

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and still has most combos

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just a little worse cooldowns

queen jolt
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True but my lady still can get carried by her giant form

fast lagoon
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mt cant do much

fast lagoon
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its very easy to kill her before she goes big and its still easy to focus her while shes big

queen jolt
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That’s true though

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Geez there are a lot of mid characters

fast lagoon
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and then theres monoma

queen jolt
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And strike todoroki and shinso

fast lagoon
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strikendo

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strikiri too

smoky nexus
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yo anyone got any twice tips ever since the nerf ive been STRUGGLING

smoky nexus
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Preesh im on console and love twice

young marsh
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Duble nerfed her

native idol
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Would running special action reload boost and sisterly on his default costume be a solid build?

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My friend just got into the game and he's a Twice one trick, so I'm trying to find a good budget build

karmic jewel
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This one is a very good budget build

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Special action reload/Trance Blow

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He only needs 20k gold to unlock it

native idol
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He doesn't have Shinso though

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Only character he's gotten from a role is Tamaki

karmic jewel
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Tamaki can work too until he has enough shinso data

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You don't need a character to use the tuning. Just enough data.

native idol
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Oh fr?

karmic jewel
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Yeah

native idol
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Do you just get em from matches?

karmic jewel
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50 for normal tuning, and 100 for specials

karmic jewel
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If you have the character unlocked its more likely to be them

native idol
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Didn't know that, that's pretty cool

south crypt
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does anyone have a link to a twice guide that was put in here some time ago?

karmic jewel
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Idk if itll be as good considering his nerfs

fast lagoon
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Only a little applies most of it doesn’t really work now

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The few things that would apply would be the melee movement (doing the first melee repeatedly is faster than running) a little bit of the playstyle and ig some tuning but not a lot

young marsh
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The only tech he can do more reliably is gamma melee into alphas/beta since his gamma range is so short (gamma 9 tape is literally shorter than his melee range) you can often land it (by "wiffing" a part of the 3 hits in gamma). I pref alpha since I like to use beta elsewhere and its good dmg if you get 2.

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Still waiting for someone to figure out how to get his clones to instantly shoot

karmic jewel
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Either they lock in or are just standing there

young marsh
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Ik but surely theres a way to make it more reliable at least. Would just need to clip each time it happens fr but I havnt been doing that.

karmic jewel
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It depends on luck im ngl

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How fast the clone locks onto the enemy

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Sometimes its instantly

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Other times it takes a few seconds

young marsh
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A while ago I figured out clones at least have to be looking in their direction or that they generally go straight when walking.
And I feel like they happen to attack more when I do or something idk.
Like maybe if they lock on someone in iframes they will start later/sooner havnt tested it. Theres something man I swear. Maybe even hz dependent

tulip oar
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Twiceeee

still glacier
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How do you guys like the new skin?

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Wow, this place is dead

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I guess that’s what happens when your character gets nerfed to the ground

still glacier
fast lagoon
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Yeah he was nerfed to the ground

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There’s no reason to run him anymore

still glacier
fast lagoon
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how would he get the clones

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he has no consistent way to kill and its easy to beat him now

silk axle
fast lagoon
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The character that used to be incredibly well got nerfed to be on par with assault kiri and tech Dabi

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And that’s not nerfed to the ground

silk axle
fast lagoon
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And without his combo what can he do

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Hes not much without it you don’t have to respect him anymore

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You can make mistakes

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And he desperately needs a team to do anything (Ik it’s a team game but he can’t do much without anyone else around which really hurts his viability)

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Those powerful combos were what made him good and without them hes just kinda bad

silk axle
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its one combo took there are others ;-;

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he still is good

fast lagoon
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His gimmick isn’t even good either clones aren’t hard to deal with and he lacks the ability to get the downs necessary to get them

fast lagoon
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I’ll just say that much

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If he has his alpha into gamma cancel still yeah hed be good but rn nah hes awful

silk axle
fast lagoon
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He can’t tack on damage to what he has left so he ends up spending most of his kit for damage akin to a yellow deku beta

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And it’s not even armored or anything it’s so easy to interrupt

fast lagoon
silk axle
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he still is playable yall just dont know how to use him now after a combo was took from yall

fast lagoon
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No we do

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That’s why we know hes bad

silk axle
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hes not but whatever fits u

fast lagoon
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Uh huh

silk axle
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;-;

still glacier
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Uhm…

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Aizawa bots

fast lagoon
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The clones would be better if they were smarter tbh

fast lagoon
still glacier
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I think it does the lowest damage in the game now if I recall correctly

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Give him another beta charge

fast lagoon
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Because twice doesnt have the lowest damage they just decided to make the moves that used to work well together not do that

still glacier
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By lowest damage by the way, I mean, as in how much damage he can put out in an instant

fast lagoon
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Ngl thatd probably be techbi but hes down there now

still glacier
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I think his highest damage combo is gamma into beta and it does around the 130 range

fast lagoon
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Hes close to assault kiri rn

still glacier
fast lagoon
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Hes like a “bully character” but like assault kiri hes easy to zone out and kill

still glacier
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Also gamma into melee can be true

fast lagoon
fast lagoon
still glacier
fast lagoon
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Yup

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He trades a lot more

still glacier
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So he can’t really bully all that well

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He’s more close to Hawks

fast lagoon
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However he tracks

still glacier
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Good tracking and is supposed to be a bully character, but doesn’t have the necessary tools to bully

fast lagoon
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Ngl hawks is still a solid pick imo definitely worse than before but still not down with many characters

still glacier
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He doesn’t have the HP nor the armor nor the damage

fast lagoon
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Probably like low b

fast lagoon
still glacier
fast lagoon
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But tbh yeah that’s a valid argument he more stacks up the damage he does rather than doing it all in an instant if that makes sense

fast lagoon
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I like that but also it’s just kinda bad and I don’t like that as much

still glacier
fast lagoon
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Yeah but this is twice gamma

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It’s on a different level

still glacier
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There are too many tools to get rid of a good twice

fast lagoon
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Anything that trades does the trick

still glacier
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I’ve been playing him recently, and I swear they have shortened the gamma distance even more

still glacier
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Armor

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And even then there’s just some attacks that come out so quickly that you’ll still get snuffed out

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And twice does not have enough damage to do trades

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The only redeeming quality of him now is his beta and special action

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Which comes to varying degrees of usefulness

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Are they just going to sit in the storm and die or are they going to literally kill everybody?

fast lagoon
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Back when he had his cancels he could trade

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But now he can’t

still glacier
#

Other than that, his alpha is pretty bad to be honest you need to hit 3 slow moving daggers that don’t do that much damage

And his gamma has the range of a pebble and the damage of paper

fast lagoon
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It stacks up

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Hes an awful Beamer but like mt lady when you’re in the right scenario with them (cough cough combos) they really put in work

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However mt lady can actually use hers at some form of range (even though it’s not a lot)

still glacier
# fast lagoon It stacks up

You wanna know what stacks up even faster?

90% of the alphas in this game and this is assuming you’re hitting all your knives if you don’t have perfect accuracy it absolutely sucks

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At this point, you’re just using a budget denki

fast lagoon
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Assku beta is strong than twice ngl

still glacier
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Actually, now that I think about it everything twice can do that isn’t related to clones Denki can

fast lagoon
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Yeah

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At least before twice could do sneak attacks well now he can’t

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He can still sneak attack but you are literally no threat

still glacier
fast lagoon
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And she still retains a few of her fancy combos

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Theyre limited and more situational but they exist

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Rip mt lady she was gonna be my replacement twice then they killed her too 😔

still glacier
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She did not need that nerf

fast lagoon
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Literally just do 25 instead of 50

still glacier
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At least she’s seeing play in the new game mode

fast lagoon
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Thatd help keep her around a lot more

still glacier
fast lagoon
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Man if I owned her I would

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She’s so broken but those combos…

still glacier
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Or red kiri

fast lagoon
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Again I would but he feels clunky to me

fast lagoon
still glacier
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There’s a lot of saucy combo, characters

fast lagoon
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But I have a skill issue so it’s not often

still glacier
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Get hard

fast lagoon
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I also just enjoy mt lady outside of her combos unlike kiri and asshiggy

still glacier
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Get manly

fast lagoon
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What if I just learn rapid shiggy

still glacier
fast lagoon
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My teammate is a rapid shiggy master

fast lagoon
still glacier
fast lagoon
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He does

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One of the best rapid shiggy’s I’ve seen ngl

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I can somewhat replicate the tech he does but I’d be no where near his level

still glacier
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Best of learning the basics, then learning the combos, then doing the flashy stuff

fast lagoon
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No but like

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Is understand how to escape and thats it

silk axle
fast lagoon
still glacier
fast lagoon
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That way I know the most of what I can do then I see what would be best in a real situation

still glacier
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Either way, hopefully twice gets a buff

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Anything would be better than his situation right now

fast lagoon
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His combos are not returning btw

still glacier
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Like giving back his one damage

still glacier
fast lagoon
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That would require both the cancels coming back and a dp change to either be significantly less or just reverted

fast lagoon
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I’d like at least his cancels to return so his won’t be so bad

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Actually they could come back if the devs make good decisions and change how the alpha cancel worked

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And bonus they’d be weaker so he wouldn’t be so complained about

still glacier
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Honestly, if you asked me personally, I’d probably go the boring route

fast lagoon
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I just want to feel the combos again

still glacier
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Give him some gamma range, increases alpha speed, give him a second beta

fast lagoon
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I loved them

still glacier
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Etc

still glacier
fast lagoon
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I’m all for clone buffs but this kit shouldn’t be around clones it’s not built for that

still glacier
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But after that was fixed honestly, I would’ve been fine with it

fast lagoon
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I was switch but actually good because I learned high fps aswell

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I was left untouched after the fps fix

still glacier
fast lagoon
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He still needed damage nerfs

silk axle
# still glacier ?

i hope yall will get nerfed to the ground IM TIRED OF YALL GAMMA LIKE OUT OF ALL MOVES WHY THAT

fast lagoon
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I don’t blame you one bit

still glacier
silk axle
still glacier
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It’s just when combo’ed with other things it becomes a gigantic problem

fast lagoon
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That’s why we adjust the alpha cancel so they actually cancel whichll lower the damage of the combos but keep them alive

still glacier
fast lagoon
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You’d tag on an extra 30-60 damage rather than 90+

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Quite significant change considering that you get 3-4 alphas per combo

still glacier
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If you reduce the damage, you would have to make the combo easier in my opinion

fast lagoon
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Nah

still glacier
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Because the combos were a purely unintended thing

fast lagoon
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Not all nerfs need compensation especially one like that

fast lagoon
fast lagoon
still glacier
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If a new player were to pick up twice, they would be wondering why he is such a bad character with such low damage

fast lagoon
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They showed combos in the tamaki trailer and I believe they also showed the beta into gamma for rapidgo when he released

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Along with gamma into melee for overhaul? (I may be wrong on this one though)

fast lagoon
still glacier
fast lagoon
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But as they learn they’d improve and see just how powerful characters can be

still glacier
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Like there’s some things you cannot just rule out as “they didn’t know”

still glacier
fast lagoon
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Also why give shinso aizawa deku and tamaki grabs if not for combos

still glacier
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Those seemed unintended, unlike the others

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Like the strike kendo combo too

fast lagoon
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I think the unintended part about strikendo was the melee cancel

silk axle
fast lagoon
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However that hasnt been fixed nor was it mentioned so I think it’s fine

still glacier
fast lagoon
still glacier
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Just don’t mess with us unless you got a helper

fast lagoon
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His other cancels got removed why keep that one

still glacier
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Because Gamma chaining into melee and beta seem a lot more intentional. It’s hard for me to explain, but I understand if you disagree.

fast lagoon
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I mean they’d cancel the same way

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You could only cancel after the slash

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I just think the combos are intended theyre just going about the wrong ways to nerf them

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Like cmon just removing them is not a good nerf change them so he still has the same stats as usual but the combos are not as strong

still glacier
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Even if they were, I wouldn’t put behind BYKING to just be that ignorant and forget it was intentional

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I’ve lost trust in their balancing decisions

fast lagoon
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After buffing tech mirio I’m with you on that

still glacier
fast lagoon
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And it especially sucks because those were some of my favourite combos in any game

still glacier
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Health was never the problem

still glacier
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Or at least practice her combos in the training range

fast lagoon
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Health is never a problem when your survivability is too good

fast lagoon
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Ive made sure to keep up with her

still glacier
fast lagoon
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Ik

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I hate it but I’ve hit some fun combos with him in training

still glacier
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I watched someone literally four piece combo someone mid air with this

fast lagoon
fast lagoon
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Cancel mid dash

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Do it on a slope for better results

still glacier
silk axle
fast lagoon
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It cant now dw

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At least not with twice’s alpha

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It cant cancel anymore so it’s useless for combos like that

ionic saffron
karmic jewel
drowsy crescent
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Also I still play him I just don't talk in the Twice room much 👉👈

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Nothing beats the proud feeling of watching your creation mess somebody up Twice Twice Twice

fast lagoon
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I don’t play him because I don’t find him fun without combos I’m still here though because I liked dominated and play him for so long I might as well stay

drowsy crescent
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At least he still does damage

fast lagoon
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You’ll learn how bad he is soon

drowsy crescent
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Idk I've used him fine in some Ranked matches

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More reliant on Beta distractions but beyond that he's aight

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No better feeling on this Earth than getting an Endeavor clone

fast lagoon
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I’m glad you’re getting good stats but it gets really hard to use anyone after a bit

karmic jewel
#

REMEMBERRRR WHO YOU AREEEE

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I haven't played twice in a minute, but when I did. I had fun, but it definitely was difficult to pull KOs.

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A lot of them came from the enemy already being low, or my beta clone melts them on wake up

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-# I used gamma, gamma air melee and beta cloned to catch the wake up

fast lagoon
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I just play mt lady now (rip fancy combos)

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Or my usual overhaul and shinso

karmic jewel
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The air melee activating the hawks tuning

karmic jewel
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Literally killed almost every ToD combo

fast lagoon
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Worst part is she never had a tod combo she just had a couple fancy ones that hit hard

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There were almost none that were true on gp to have a tod

karmic jewel
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Which is basically an Ochaco downscale

fast lagoon
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Yeah her nerf was to team combos

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Which is understandable but it should not be so high

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If twice has the same change hed have a 150 dp alpha

karmic jewel
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Lmao

fast lagoon
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His was fair

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He has 25 dp now and it hits three times for a 75 max dp

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Mt lady has a 50 dp and it hits twice

karmic jewel
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And increased the charge by 1

fast lagoon
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It is 50 per shot

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That’s why it killed her

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It’s a max 100 dp alpha

karmic jewel
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Im talking avout twice

fast lagoon
#

Oh

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Yeah no it’s 25

karmic jewel
fast lagoon
fast lagoon
#

Mt lady just got screwed over for no reason

karmic jewel
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And they do that

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😭

agile otter
#

Hey who's still a Twice main after the nerf he got which changed up how you play him?

agile otter
drowsy crescent
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I don't really play too differently from what I did before, basically just keep my distance shooting Alpha's and watching my Beta clones mess 'em up. Occasional melee for a sneaky guard break

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Was very excited to find out Assault Endeavor clones are just as deadly as the Strike ones.

still glacier
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“LETS DO THIS, I wanna quit…” Twice

patent obsidian
#

"Oopsie. my mouth moved on its own."Twice

finite vortex
lunar charm
#

WHEN is his quirkset please he can barely fight dabi now

queen jolt
#

BUFF HIM BACK

fast lagoon
#

i second this

karmic jewel
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Third it

drowsy crescent
#

He definitely needs somethin' since as a Rapid, he's very underwhelming.

fast lagoon
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Maybe the new hawks scratches the itch that twice filled

drowsy crescent
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I'd rather not get prime Hawks again

fast lagoon
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Same here but idc if he’s prime hawks again I just want the combos

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Closest I have to twice is like strikendo and mt lady and I don’t own strikendo and strawks sounds like his moves would feel the same in combos (if he has any) so I’m hoping

drowsy crescent
#

At the very least, still fun watching clones mess people up from a distance

fast lagoon
#

I don’t care much about the clones ngl

drowsy crescent
#

Idk, they're fun. When they ain't standing around waiting to get shot.

fast lagoon
#

I only really like them when I used them to finish off a combo and I saw a nice juicy down

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I did also like hitting the summon too

drowsy crescent
#

They make for a good distraction while you heal as well, it's nice.

fast lagoon
#

So that was nice

fast lagoon
#

We love looting and healing meat shields

spice pilot
#

Twice buff pls his clones die instantly and he gets slammed by OFA deku why do we think twice is a rapid he doesn’t even go far and lastly he has no damage unless you beam

past valve
naive swift
#

Guess my favorite character

karmic jewel
naive swift
silk axle
spice pilot
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I call it my fu tuning

naive swift
#

I don’t have any good pur skins so I’m making with what’s due rn

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The newest event skin is actually really good for goat twice in my opinion

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The one from area control

spice pilot
#

I literally melee tuned that skin because theirs so Many new melee tuning skill

spice pilot
#

Dekus new alternative character has a good tuning for twice yall should try it it’s insane

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It makes twice an actual rapid and he gets to move fast as well as instant clone also he can almost always hit the melee

naive swift
#

I was thinking about that too

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But I wanna see if it’s good or not

spice pilot
#

I’ll try but idk if I can but it’s insane I have a costume with it and shinsos tuning and basically you can move extremely fast as well as clone in half the time , as well as your gamas faster ,and in the time you shot one alpha normally you would be able to shot 2.

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The tuning is S teir

young marsh
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I'll get deku tune when afo comes out and pity for him (praying I get afo b4 2k tickets)

pallid crypt
#

anyone got any tips for playing twice?

karmic jewel
#

Can you aim the alpha well?

pallid crypt
#

decently

fast lagoon
#

then play another beamer

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twice is unfortunately terrible rn

pallid crypt
#

yea I know he sucks

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i’m trying rapid dekus new tuning plus shinzos

pallid crypt
#

nevermind

#

screw this game

spice pilot
pallid crypt
#

why bother twice sucks, it would just be a waste

karmic jewel
#

He's somewhat usable if ya know what you're doing.

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That said, by no means would I personally recommend him

spice pilot
fast lagoon
#

all that and he still gets merked by a tech dabi

karmic jewel
fast lagoon
#

twice had struggles with techbi before but now that he cant just kill him its kinda just a losing matchup

karmic jewel
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Ig yeah

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I've always stayed above a tech dabi with twice

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So his gammas cant stop my alphas

pallid crypt
karmic jewel
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At lower levels only get close when its 1 on 1.

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Kind of like Tsuyu

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Get close. Do some chip, back off.

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Drive them insane

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Watch them get desperate

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I use his Cyberpunk PUR

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Perception and Willpower rn

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Although if I can I might see what Iron Fist or whatever Strike Hawks' special tuning is

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Heard its good

pallid crypt
#

yea screw all that

#

he is useless

karmic jewel
#

Yeah like I said I wouldn't recommend it personally lmao

#

I dont even use Twice unless its unranked tbh

pallid crypt
#

this meta is just so bad

karmic jewel
#

It is indeed insane

#

🥀

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Although I will say if you got good teammates to pull KOs for you

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Twice can still easily dominate a match through sheer numbers

fast lagoon
#

Four if they have card dupe

spice pilot
#

I only use twice

#

But I do think the nerf destroyed him

karmic jewel
still glacier
#

How’s acceleration on twice?

fast lagoon
#

It’s not enough

still glacier
#

But it can make trash into slightly better trash

#

So how is it on him?

fast lagoon
#

It’s better but still not great

#

He just does everything that he did before but faster

#

So it’s better but he still doesn’t change much

still glacier
#

Also I saw a YouTuber who had an interesting play style with him that I haven’t really seen before

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Just plopping the beta down to beam people together

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One thing about his clones is they have impeccable aim

fast lagoon
#

Play play mic at that point

still glacier
#

He’s not as cool

fast lagoon
#

Hes not but he gets the job done better

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And faster

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And easier

still glacier
#

But he has no friends

fast lagoon
#

Twice’s friends get slaughtered with a small gust of wind

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That or theyre too stupid to live

still glacier
fast lagoon
#

No like seriously hes god awful

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Without his combos he has no consistent damage and literally everyone else does what he can do better

still glacier
#

Yet I’ll still play him

sinful aurora
# still glacier Yet I’ll still play him

I respect that. Was messing around with him in ace lobbies. And I'll say he's fun in good circumstances. Still using paper bag heat with high speed replenishment and special reload. He was fun the matches I played. We won them too.

mortal isle
#

There is Nothing more satisfying than Getting downed and then watching your clones Jump the person who downed you

young marsh
#

Rare. Movement so fast my beta clones miss alphas now.
The little he had is gone. Cant play in stacked anymore at all. Only f tier char. :/

spice pilot
#

They should give him like a second beta

ionic saffron
#

I feel like that wouldn't matter

karmic jewel
#

Give him his gamma to alpha combo back

drowsy crescent
#

Feel like he needs more movement, another Gamma charge maybe

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Or even an extra one at level 9 because for a Rapid, his movement sucks

fast lagoon
#

More movement doesn’t change the fact he has no damage

karmic jewel
drowsy crescent
#

Ye true

sinful aurora
fast lagoon
#

Ts was so broken but so fun

karmic jewel
#

But keep the alpha into gamma removed

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So he can at least do something

karmic jewel
minor ledge
# karmic jewel Tbh bring back his gamma into alpha.

what does that help exactly?
I'm preaching the exact opposite. Give him alpha to gamma so at least he can alpha gamma air melee/beta. If you give him gamma into alpha, doesn't that just slightly boost evasion cause he can now gamma away while still using alpha but if you try to use it offensively you'll just hit gamma, then leave yourself completely open cause you have no way to leave alpha animation? or is there something that would unlock? I suppose it would allow you to attack while closing the gap on someone which is neat ig

fast lagoon
#

Alpha to gamma for actual consistent damage

minor ledge
#

yeah

tired grail
#

Agreed

ionic saffron
#

Does Acceleration change anything for Twice?

tired grail
#

combos wise no

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dps wise yes

tired grail
karmic jewel
#

Holy

tired grail
#

Lmao

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I felt bad up until I saw it was shinso

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Either shred or get shreded 💔

karmic jewel
#

Ong

ionic saffron
#

Stocking pfp !!

silk axle
#

Twice is still going strong till this day

#

ദ്ദി・ᴗ・)✧

karmic jewel
#

What's getting his beta back faster supposed to accomplish exactly?

#

More gamma beta combos??

tired grail
#

Pretty much

#

More clone chip 🤑

drowsy crescent
#

I mean hey, I'll take it

#

Still hope they do somethin' about his lack of Rapidness though.

tired grail
fast lagoon
#

Rq idk if you already know this but clones insta target the opponent when you land the beta

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Just makes it easier to lock on and have them actually do something

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Also if you wanna finish a Strat I used to use would be to air melee into beta and have the clone shoot them out of the sky

tired grail
#

Yeah I know

fast lagoon
#

Alr sweet

tired grail
#

If you air melee u cant hit any thing else till they wakeup

fast lagoon
#

You can alpha after

tired grail
#

I just do raw beta into my own 2 alpha hits

fast lagoon
#

I used to do that too

tired grail
#

Yeah its either 100dp from air melee or 100dp from 2 knives

#

Sad world making twice have noticeable dp

fast lagoon
#

Weird question but what’s your fps

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Because m1 m2 beta is only possible on like 120+ or something idrk I never did in depth testing

tired grail
#

Not sure i keep changing it cuz I dont notice a difference

#

Its prob 120 rn

fast lagoon
#

Alrr

tired grail
#

I've been able to do m1 m2 m1 before