Cementoss

[odd atlas]

A place to discuss Cementoss: tips, guides and questions.

[inland quartz]

Cementoss

[heavy shale]

[random flume]

Hello there

[rough sleet]

Dang no convos on him

[heavy shale]

[zenith belfry]

cement man kinda cool

how do you play offensive with him tho?

[rough sleet]

Gamma and alpha juggle. Pillar tower for height advantage to keep pressure.

[cosmic bear]

How do you play this man at all

Lol

[cosmic bear]

Makes sense, no one knows

[inland quartz]

genuinely, think like fortnite

like, you're building to move yourself to safety and create your own cover

focus on your own survivability first and foremost

the damage and support will come naturally

[cosmic bear]

I only played no build fortnite

lol

[rough sleet]

He epic!

[vague abyss]

I have an outdated cem guide. The best info yall going to get honestly for the most part.
Not sure the rules on posting different discords in here though

Might updated if enough people want it. Cem imo is way better than people think on pc (I can count the amount of cem aces on my hand there were last season)
Idk anything about console

[mellow gale]

He's insane on console tbh. I've been playing him a lot more and have added him to my list of mains

[rough sleet]

Any tips on dealing with rapids?

[inland quartz]

No-no

Sorry

[mellow gale]

Go for the bait and punish game, your main thing with Cementoss is sitting back and dealing damage. Try to get hits on then when creating distance. If they do get close, use beta or alpha to get them off, and away, of you

[vague abyss]

Aighty. Am i allowed to say dm me?

[inland quartz]

try not to

just hit them up with it

[vague abyss]

Try not to seems like I can lol. Well I already said it. I'll make a short version here prolly if they fix cem gamma. Let's pray

[rough sleet]

I want to master him so bad.

[random flume]

Anybody got any tips on how to play Cementoss as a actual support character?

[inland quartz]

His alpha's range is insane and you can exploit that.

[random flume]

Thank you buddy

[crude dust]

I max his beta first, most important, then alpha after or along the way

[vague abyss]

That's Chad.
A4 B9 is something I used to do. But i rarely get enough cards on old map unless I'm greeding. And a9 is good on new map as b4 is enough since buildings everywhere.
But I'm inspired to just b9 ty

[crude dust]

Yeah I used to A9 but my boy pmo to B9, noticed a huge difference in my gameplay. Also some characters need to be max out first and if your team don’t prioritize you maxing first that ain’t yo team fam lol. Cement or any other legend that can’t work on 1’s need to give them all the lvl cards til they got the main thing maxed out

[vague abyss]

cementoss gamma fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[crude dust]

What was wrong with it?

[vague abyss]

u play cem?
well his gamma would not stun when you hit basically every time. It would instead knock them in the air. So you coulndt combo with it.
Now you can combo again and do good burst damage

[crude dust]

His gamma alpha combo?

[vague abyss]

you would rarely be able to pull that off. now you can gamma alpha every time. and maybe get another alpha off

[ancient geode]

https://tenor.com/view/nemuri-midnight-ms-my-hero-gif-13105620

[crude dust]

I think I did notice that hard to pull it off now people are still able to move out of it. My thing is when I get hit by it I jump and and roll and still get hit

How do I dodge it

[vague abyss]

You cant.
In order to gamma alpha, you have to be touching a surface (not in air) and you have to move in a direction to cancel the endlag of the animation from gamma so you can throw alpha faster.
Gamma, hold direction, alpha.
If you are in air, you cant stop endlag.
So you cant if they do this. If they dont do this, you can roll the 2nd part of gamma

speaking of that combo, i wonder if I hit you with gamma 1, alpha 1 if you will be able to roll.
1 being the ball, 2 being the spawn.
I think flinching makes you not be able to roll for a brief moment.

[crude dust]

hes ok

hes actually amazing if hes in an enclosed space

he cant rly do anything in the air tho

so if hes facing a bakugo or someone similar he would just have to shield himself

i still have no idea on how to play him tho

[wintry mulch]

i accidentally created this type of wall

is it bugged?

[crude dust]

Oh

U prob did the left and right or something

[vague abyss]

You hold left/right/down while its forming and it goes horizontal. You hold nothing or press up it goes up. You can make U shape T shape || shape and things of the sort

[vague abyss]

.

[ebon solar]

Max alpha immediately.
Nothing else matters until that.
(Or do alpha 4, gamma 4, alpha 9,)

It's basically a lot of "looking down" simulator, and use your alpha as steps when falling

Here's a few combos, that I decided to put into one video

[vague abyss]

sneek peek of video im trying to make of all the clips ive ever used for cem (some random ones at end im sorting out in final vid. will be 1080p on final)

[vague abyss]

song suggestions will be nice

[crude dust]

Wait how did u get that aura?

I keep seeing ppl with it and I have no idea how to get it

Mostly shigis and bakugos

[ebon solar]

You roll a repeat on the PUR outfit

Aka you roll the same costume twice,
You can do it a multiple of 5 times and you get more auras each time.
For villains the max is a big purple aura, for heroes it's a white rainbow mix

[crude dust]

Ohh

I rly wanna get that for my uraraka and denki

[winged bridge]

Whats the best plan with Zementos?

[ebon solar]

max alpha immediately, then gamma.
Beta is good but shouldn't be a priority over the others.

[ebon solar]

Then prepare to basically spam gamma - alpha combos for the big damage

Gamma starts all your best combos, but I feel it combos more easily at lower lvls

[vague abyss]

alpha max generally
gamma, walk cancel, alpha combo is a must (cant be in air to combo. I think MAX gamma you can be in air and combo it)
2 alphas can combo if done right (easiest after gamma setup)
dont run out of alphas
I personally go beta max 2nd on old map. On new map gamma max 2nd. Or whatever green cards i happen to get. If a lot of betas, then i just ball with beta to spike faster. I hold lvl cards early just incase we fight early. If im alpha 4, and have 3 cards and we fight, beta 4 is what I do, unless i know its an easy fight and we win by a good margin. its 2x better which is a huge spike.
B9 is legit spammable a.f and pretty much 100% uptime. Its underated.

[winged bridge]

I try to understand!!

[winged bridge]

Can i build faster a Tower when i JUMP and use Alpha at the Same time is it Sausage?

[vague abyss]

jumping only makes the distance from where you throw alpha bigger. unless there is some weird animation cancel happening i don tthink so

[winged bridge]

Okay...
Also you dont try it?

[solid raft]

how hard was it to get his day off skin?

i want his day off fit so bad xd

[ebon solar]

I got it three times in the same x10 roll.
I have the green aura, but I prefer the blue aura

[solid raft]

why dont u get this one with the blue aura?

that would look so tough

bruhh u making me jealous i want that suittt

😡

gahh

[solid raft]

wait is he on a banner?

like

[ebon solar]

Was on a banner, got it when him and mt lady's casual came out last season. (Or two seasons ago, I forgor)

[solid raft]

u think its hard to get him now?

[solid raft]

wth is this?

is this the disguise

i mean day off

suit

[ebon solar]

Considering I haven't gotten anything for him since then, I'd say yes.

And no that's the one where he has Nezu on his back and legs

[solid raft]

oh

this means impossible pretty much 😭

wait does it

i cant count drop rate

[ebon solar]

That's because the other is a two star, so much easier-ish

[solid raft]

bruh

im never gonna get him

thats the only good looking fit he has

[solid raft]

wait which way do i lvl up?

sorry for the questions

xd

[ebon solar]

Max out alpha immediately.
Everything can wait until then,
And then max gamma.
His beta is stupid strong but normally gets in the way

[solid raft]

whats the perk of alpha first?

[ebon solar]

His main attack, higher dmg, bigger pillars, and his main get-away tool.

Build up twice with alpha, then blast them.
(Or gamma - alpha for a strong combo)

[solid raft]

so gamma then alpha?

[ebon solar]

This shows off a majority of his good combos,
You can beta - alpha or alpha - beta if you're right on top of them, but it's not that consistent

Also in defense, it's good to just throw your alpha at your feet.
For a lot of your fights you're essentially looking down a lot, from my experience

[solid raft]

huh

so gamma then alpha?

[ebon solar]

Yes

[solid raft]

how do i block someone away

like trap em

and confuse em

[solid raft]

oh thats cool

[ebon solar]

May be hard to describe/visualize but; Jump, gamma down, alpha twice at your feet while in the air, walk off your tower, gamma beneath you again as you're falling, and then pillar up again

A lot of characters can't touch you when you're pillared twice up (or three if you're not confident) then make your own stairway down with alpha, I'll see if I have a clip showcasing this somewhere.

[solid raft]

so alpha beta gamma and combos

its cool that he can block the chest

for like a shield

[ebon solar]

You can definitely use beta, but alpha and gamma are your strongest option.
You can do either or

Not the clearest showing but I deleted a lot of my old clips, this is essentially stacking up with alpha and falling with gamma

[solid raft]

bruh i still get killed by sum annoying mt lady

i dont get how u use it so effiecntly

[solid raft]

ohh

[ebon solar]

Well there isn't too much you can do against a giant Mt lady's gamma that's targeting you.
Unless you pillar up quick and jump over her with your two gammas

[solid raft]

how can i block her?

i miss the gamma's and alpha's a bit

[ebon solar]

How do you miss your gamma?
In that case, just gamma in front of you, and pillar with alpha, and keep just shooting in front of you, you'll definitely take DMG but you'll break her shield quicker than she can to you if you're only playing on the defensive

She can't do much against an airborne cementoss, nothing you can't block with more alphas aimed down.
You have 350 health, and you hit much harder than her. War of attrition

[solid raft]

ye im sticking with kamnari

ill learn how tou se him soon

use*

[ebon solar]

My explanations probably just suck,

You have to play defensively a lot,

[solid raft]

nah u good

ty

[swift arch]

How do I change the shape of the beta skill

Like to a T and to a U

[ebon solar]

When you hit beta, it's the same as how you move.

Holding back makes it go sideways and going forward makes it go forward, otherwise it'll just do the straight line

[vague abyss]

every direction besides up makes it go sideways. it goes foward by default. u hold the direction during the spawning animation

[vague abyss]

idk y i forgot / realized gamma on hp is true for 2 hits

so u can get 4 hits if u time ur alpha right

[native vapor]

with crmentos can u tower with two alphas then make a gamma platform then put a beta for a wall?

[mellow gale]

Yep

[native vapor]

u can do 2 alphas and not 3

cuz i tried 3 alphas, then gamma, then beta but beta didn't work, so 2 alphas work?

[native vapor]

does gamma gamma alpha work anymore? should i be aiming to do it)

i did it once but u have like less to work with if u use all ur gammas

[vague abyss]

I have an old old guide on cementoss. Pages and pages long. Some clip examples. etc. If by popular demand ill revamp it and post it here (with new tech ofc) (since i cant link unoffical mhur discords) but im kinda done at this point with bot lobbies and the state of the game with this latest patch.
Ill always lend a hand for the heros hero and those who want to play it if asked. Take care fellow

[vague abyss]

also, would like song suggestions for my montage ima make that fits cem

[native vapor]

question, alpha does like some damage to people rather than it hits on the side. does alpha do more damage if the top of the pillar hits someone under their feet?

[wide prawn]

Yes and no. The alpha has 2 hitboxes, 1 of them is the projectile part that you see while throwing it and the 2nd is the entire rock. So its technically possible to hit the projectile only then have the pillar build on a nearby wall to hit again. But for the most part your only gonna hit both if your above the opponent and you aim for their feet

[native vapor]

oh okay.

btw if you throw a projectile at someone and it hits, does the projectile turn into a pillar wherever it lands?

[wide prawn]

It will only turn into a pillar upon hitting a surface. Not a player

[ebon solar]

I sent a small compilation early of a few combos, primarily his gamma ones but landing anything with beta is usually a very risky maneuver in my eyes since it can leave you pretty stationary, especially at high levels

[vague abyss]

Look up / making a U shape decreases the punishment. Or we'll timed T shape (if try it sooner, they will be on the far end of T and thus u have cover if wiff)
Sbmm just happened and havnt played much so can't say how punishishable it is from pure ace lobby. But almosg never ever get punished. If you're smart about it, it's what makes a good cem a good cem utilizing that part of his kit. Too much dmg to not use it every game offensively

[ebon solar]

That's true, no one wants to get hit by it, but it also gives the enemy a slight chance to work around you.
It's not as bad, but I view it as cementoss's version of endeavors gamma in which it's definitely devastating now but can put you in much worse situations if done in the open. (Even if I have clips contradicting that a bit too)

I find myself just sticking to gamma - alphas and using beta as only a last resort since it also blocks your team off as well

[vague abyss]

Go in a game and spam beta. U shape or look straight up (to be on top of it) for 90% of the player base I'll bet you will hardly get punished.

You can look up and do both tbh. Anything but regular beta. Test it out to see for yourself.

Also using beta while on top of alpha is another thing every cem should do

[native vapor]

thanks

[native vapor]

wait another question, how come alpha does different damage when someone goes into a growing alpha pillar and a pillar being spawned under someone

either 80 damage or 147 damage when is it the other

[ebon solar]

I assume you mean when they get hit twice, as they can get hit when it just spawns and then hit again as it sprouts up, you can really juggle folks with alpha if you're VERY good at timing it.

[native vapor]

Yeah that's what i mean. in some youtube videos it just says 147 damage but in my games it says 80 then 60 damage in one millisecond

[ebon solar]

Some people have their DMG numbers set differently, you can change it to be between every hit shown or just the total in settings

So you don't see anything like "12 - 12 - 12" every time you use twice's alpha, and instead just 36, so your screen is less cluttered

[native vapor]

Yess i need that!

so i can actually see if i'm hitting my combos

thank you

[native vapor]

where?

[ebon solar]

Go to settings, which is located in menu.

Go to display and it's the third to last option in "show damage"
Then you set your preference

[native vapor]

it's the "total" option thing right?

[ebon solar]

Yeah

[native vapor]

thanks

[olive gale]

how can i control vertical and horizontal wall

[ebon solar]

Holding sideways

[vague abyss]

Fire clip.

Makes me think if direct alpha resets timer to jump (no other alpha does) cause if it does, that was also a true combo. Timing was very tight too so coulda been super close to true. Very nice clip

[mellow gale]

STOP, PLEASE, HE'S HAD ENOUGH

[vague abyss]

my cem is him - best Cementoss montage moments on mhur

idk if i can upload 5 minutes.

[vague abyss]

ima just do it in partts tbh

[native vapor]

lvl up order?

[rancid crystal]

A9 > G9 > B9

Cementoss isnt a character until alpha lvl 9 imo

Some people like Beta maxing second. I personally prefer Gamma max second for the free damage and tower safety

Not to mention the Beta is heavy bugged right now, leveling it can be counter productive

[vague abyss]

Not fighting? Hold lvl cards after a4. Starting a fight? If you don't have enough for a9 but have 3 cards, a4 b4.
Or if you think you will win and have enough for A7, can do that (then you get 2 cards from the body)
Old map beta > gamma imo
In general I like b4 so i just end up maxing.
Learning to use beta in fights is better practice so worth maxing anyways.
G9 ain't bad but you miss spike on b4. B9 is legit almost 100% up at all times and spammable af.

If you g9, you HAVE to make use of gamma alpha combo or you kinda just wasted it. Good for third partying and getting some free dmg.
Beta better for head on fights and defending team. So I prio that

Also g9 is good vs people who jump high since they might be too high to dodge it in time and will hit most likely

A9B4G9 is acceptable too. Might get free greens on the ground and max w.e is closest to maxing out

A9G9 only downside is no b4 for mid game but takes less lvls to have it max if you skip b4

[native vapor]

exactly okay, i'll be doing that cuz of the second beta.

thanks for the info

[rancid crystal]

Lol yeah

[sonic storm]

Ok so a9 than b9 tha. G9 right

Why does it’s matter for maps

[vague abyss]

or a9 b4 then whatever.
A9 G9 fine on new map ( i still A9b4)
big map open, so beta will provide cover.
new map less open, but ou can gamma inside more small spaces and cover it all. Just prefrence though

B9 I can at least kinda 1v2 in a way stall. G9 I Might burst 1 person down, but thats if i land it. really just depends tbh. most ppl max gamma b4 beta

[vague abyss]

Just a quick tip for yall. Spacing allows you to get 2 alpha hits. If i threw the alpha directly under thier feet, it would be impossible to land a 2nd alpha.

in the 2nd vid, im showing you that directly hitting them, with that SPECIFIC spacing, I still get 2 alpha hits only because the 2nd hit of gamma hits last, allowing me to have more time to land my 2nd alpha. And in general, to get the 2nd hit of gamma you have to time + space your 2nd alpha.
If i was melee range and hit gamma, I could not directly throw in the dead center of them. This will not get me my 2nd hit of gamma. I would have to space my alpha. And some distances I believe you have to ever so slightly delay alpha. Not too too sure if you NEED to (maybe spacing is all you ever need) im too lazy to test it.

You are most likely never getting 2 hits of gamma unless its maxed for most cems. I miss it often myself but if I/you practiced in training for 30 min, youd hit it most of the time. Also practice being ground level too.

If needed ill give more examples
edit: walk towards them to get 2 alphas easilyyyy

[sonic storm]

I don’t get it I shouldn’t shoot at his feet than

[vague abyss]

You dont want it to spawn directly UNDER his feet for the 2 alpha combo ( the center of him). You want it to spawn slightly away from thier center. I might show another vid showing what not to do

also forgot to mention that you dont have to do this to land 2 alphas. And hosetly, it might not matter now that im testing it.
Was testing with GP auto recovery on (which they get I-frames faster for some reason) so maybe been wrong for like 4 seasons now lol. Ill be back
edit: They fixed gp auto recovery having iframes sooner

[vague abyss]

Ok i been doing this wrong this whole time. Also never really tried to impliment it in game consistenly enough but golee im a fraud.

first clip is just concept of proof: the distance and height they get sent flying depending on the distance. ( If they get hit by the corner of alpha, it also changes variables) I learned its actually not consistant with distance. kinda weird but w.e
The 2nd alpha, you can tell that it will be the easiest to land a double alpha if you hit that specific spacing. Not dead center, but also not the farthest.

I didnt show, but the actual distastance between you and the enemy matters waaaay more. if they get sent flyign to you, 10x easier to land a double if your spaced right. Didnt test too much but anything thats like close to medium-close range is ez to land it.

the 2nd half is showing if you space alpha, you at least get a 2nd direct alpha in. If its far alpha, you get to land it. If its too close to them in center, you dont.

only relevant when you are ground level

[sonic storm]

Ok cuz I can’t get 2 hit with him

Even his beta I cant use

[vestal wraith]

https://youtu.be/WYg9iOZVG2Y?si=Jk-rLYcVo3otRizV

Sup Cementos mains dropping this by to help , maybe seeing him in action might help a few 👌🏽

[fervent drum]

i wanna start learning cementos, does anyone have tips?

[smoky nimbus]

if you manage to put a pillar down where someone is rolling, the pillar's ledge cancels the roll and they get hit anyways.

[robust hull]

how do I make beta go sideways or foward

[stiff glacier]

By using the movement keys

Hold the side to go to the side, forward to go forward

You can switch mid animation

To make angled walls

[lone saddle]

How do I fight Ochaco as Cemetoss or any character with great vertical mobility? They are always in the air or above me.

And Always terrorizes me when I pillar up while fighting someone else.

[stiff glacier]

Same honestly, I try to pillar up when they're coming towards me to catch them during the pillar's active hitbox

But it's a pain to deal with

[mellow gale]

Potential new Cementoss bug, Gamma not spawning after making contact with an enemy

[vague abyss]

Been like that last season and maybe season b4 on pc.

Always some bug with cem

Since s4

[mellow gale]

Looks like it made its way to console

[vague abyss]

They at least fixed his beta collapsing if unfinished. Now it straight up can go thru anything and any structure / be incomplete and not crumble. Kinda a big deal imo. Feels almost like I gained a move

[lone saddle]

Can hawks beta right through my beta?

Cause that’s what just happened to me

[stiff glacier]

Maybe at low level the wall is thin enough for the blades to hit you

[lone saddle]

He flew right through my wall during end game. Didn’t even break it just went right through it full body and all

[stiff glacier]

bruh

ok

[vague abyss]

hawks scan screws me more than anything. Im so well at hiding and getting potions off. That thing causes me to get screwed over more than any other thing he does

[stiff glacier]

I got into the same situation the other day, I didn't think it would be that big of a deal but being unable to pop those small potions or even team heals if a big deal during late game fights

[vague abyss]

Planned on making guide but for many reasons (that could be changed) I'm not.

If super interested I'll share screen and vc things (about 15 minutes of things) but other than that it ain't gonna happen unless this game revives itself x3

I might type some things here though or make a mini guide that leaves out things.

Depends

[stiff glacier]

Whatever you do, I’m interested 👍

[vague abyss]

ima end up making one. couple others wanted it and itll just be faster. maybe by end of next week

[stiff glacier]

❤️❤️❤️

Greatly appreciated

[wet fern]

HammEr IN

[devout zenith]

[vague abyss]

Been lazy.
Think I'll make quick guide next week or so
In the meantime, ill tldr 3 things.
Double alpha. Hitting corner side of alpha + spacing alpha correctly (don't hit 2 squares from their hitbox. 3/4-1 square is sweetspot) you can do it.
BUT to make it 10x easier, shorten the distance between you and them when you throw the 2nd alpha. As in A, walk towards them, A. Or rolling off alpha (idk if rolling works can't remmeber) with distance closing you really don't need to space alphas and stuff much. Unless it's a lvl 4 alpha I think that's when it might matter to implement all 3

2nd, in your G A combo, you are most likely missing the 2nd hit of gamma since your alpha is knocking them out of it b4 it spawns.
You have to slightly delay the 2nd hit of alpha AND make sure to not hit directly under them (it will lift out of hitbox too fast) you want to space alpha further from their center

3rd is alpha staggering. Tbh it's so good I'm reluctant to tell but it's w.e no 1 plays cem fr. (Main reason is now people will know where you're at)
When u stack alphas, stagger it. I'll explain more in vid but that's it

[native vapor]

A9 G4 B4 G9 B9?? good order?

[stiff glacier]

I really need to lab this, thank you!

[vague abyss]

A9 into anything is good. I could go on, but old map I don't bother maxing gamma. And A9 B4 is better to go for first instead of A9 G4 ,if you're going to lvl up both to 4 anyways

[native vapor]

ok

[noble stirrup]

Thing I really like about Cementoss is that I often feel like I can handle myself as long as I get a level 4 Alpha

Only thing else I'd like out of an intense scenario is a level 4 Gamma for a bigger top for my tower lol

[noble stirrup]

oh yeah the Beta is important too but if I'm essentially Alpha stacking to stay alive I prefer the Gamma

[stiff glacier]

I barely ever use the gamma as a way to make a tower

I’m all about the aggro

[noble stirrup]

That's fair, usually I'm packing the team heals so I need that extra bit of cover.

Fun how effective Cementoss is either way

[stiff glacier]

Yeah

I mostly chug small potions, so a regular alpha tower is usually enough

[magic bluff]

I just started using cementoss today chat
Someone should help me with some tips n tricks

What are hes lvl up strats

How can I craft he's beta

[vague abyss]

See results?

[vague abyss]

I'm lazy. Just search filter anything ive said.
From: itzkaje
in: character-discussion
Type those in filter and it'll sort it out

[stiff glacier]

Double pillar isn’t very consistent yet, G A I’m getting better results for sure, and I’m not sure what Pillar staggering does yet, my guess is that you use the full active frame of the pillar’s hitbox, and maybe that it’s less likely to collapse but that might be a confirmation bias more than anything

[vague abyss]

hm. As long as you are moving towards them double pillar should be consistent in training. Roll off pillar then throw 2.
and alpha staggering is like when you throw alpha under your feet, and the 2nd alpha is not directly in the center of the first. Like when you alpha, stand on top of it, and make a beta wall on the alpha. it gives protection. Instead of beta, you can just make a mini wall with another alpha if that makes sense.

found my old clip of it. But if you stagger like this generally, u can always fall back down from ur pillar stack onto another layer just incase

[stiff glacier]

Oooooooohhhhhhhhh that makes sense!!!

[vague abyss]

and u can use beta as well to reach the ground from 3 max alpha highes if placed right

[devout zenith]

GIVE HIM 300 HP PLS

[stiff glacier]

I never used it from higher than one alpha I am shocked it works

[vague abyss]

how much i gota pay for a 3star cementoss costume accont from yall

also, assuming ida run on wall passive works for each zone per lvl it is , i think thats worth it if you get height from it.
and reload on gaurd break (dabi) is prolly mandetory. That and overhaul give gp on revive.
and mt ldy on gaurd break as well. Id say those are the obvious best choices

you can abuse gaurd break the most with cem since he can get pots off

and refresh it

[stiff glacier]

Sadly I don't have a 3 star costume either

It bugs me to no end

[devout zenith]

[vague abyss]

someone said dabis revenge break on max lasts around 5-6 seconds.
ima assume the cooldown you get is worth 1 card.
also someone said the 'at the beggining of game' for the dupe lasts all game when maxed for twices KO condition
Cementoss can use the 'shorten the time requried to use gp' but idk how long it will last. Its really annoying they dont have stats and such

[stiff glacier]

What the heck?

All the game at max level?

That’s crazy value?

[stiff glacier]

And it’s a b*tch to test

I was testing the cooldown reduction values

I used Tech Shoto as this is the character I started building.
I have one level 3 Y cooldown reduction and one level 4 A cooldown reduction.
My observations are as follows:

On A : I get 0% for a single charge - Around 10% for the entire cooldown
On Y : I get 20% on a single charge and what seems to be 40% on the entire cooldown

I’m probably wrong on one of those values, I ran 10 tests for each to try and get the closest result, but even if I am, those stats are too far appart to make sense.

[vague abyss]

did u test it in customs? training might be wonky

also the things u are testing dont seem to be special tuning. just regular.

idk wat ur testing tbh. i dont remember alpha or gamma specific cooldonw for special tuning

[stiff glacier]

In training, I tested the damage upgrades and they give a consistent 1% per level

[stiff glacier]

I don't own special trainings yet

I was just reacting to how weird testing some of those is

[stiff glacier]

Got my first SP tuning today and it gets up to lvl 10, I got red shiggy, it gives and atk buff after getting guard broken and at lvl 6 it's already quite long.

Tech Shoto's alpha goes from 75 damage to 83 damage during the buff, so it's not to shabby either. Might be a decent SP for Cementoss too.

Anything related to getting guard broken with a character that can easily pop small heals sounds good

[vague abyss]

U using a 3 star costume?
Thought u don't have any. Didn't know it can get to lvl 6 without it

[stiff glacier]

Using it on Tech Shoto

No costume for my boy cementoss

But the character itself doesn’t matter

[vague abyss]

Oh ok lol. Had hope

[devout zenith]

[humble creek]

surprised u dont have it since I've seen a lot of ur crazy plays with cementoss

sad

[vague abyss]

s4 i culda rolled for it, but i like using base skin costume since its easier to hide in the walls with emote since the boot is a neutral color througout

[uncut rapids]

New to Cementoss any Combos he can use

[vague abyss]

^

prolly a list of combos somewhere in tis channel. 2 lazy to type rn

[uncut rapids]

Thanks I just needed a forward 🙏

[vague abyss]

there isnt a list.
well what i sent,

melee 1 2, melee, alpha
G A
(walk cancel for those 2 combos)
On HP G into anything is true

B A

A A

delayed alpha hit goes into anything as well (the spawn part hits on the end of it, giving u time to combo anything)

[humble creek]

have you thought up a good tuning set for cementoss?

Might start trying with him again since I got the outfit while rolling for Nejire so

[vague abyss]

he doesnt have the combos i want on 3 star costume.
and his green is paired with the worst red options, so i dont even want to use the revive givng gp ability
If you want to run on walls, he has options. I think that might be good. but wall running is nerfed in general which sux. So you can run twice for more cards which is huge since all you need to do is FINISH, not down, for the extra cards, and cem scales proportionately bigger than anyone else imo.
mt ldy is also good. AM is good if you want PU quciker in the game. (but you will only get one still most likely unless you run it with bakugo red which he doesnt have that combination)

so twice/ida for blue
dabi/zawa for purple

mt ldy for yellow

those are the ones that id pick with the avialable combos given

for his 3 star

and if im running mt ldy, id run purple with it over blue

but its w.e you feel tbh on prefrence

[humble creek]

wait so theres no good revive gp options cause of the others bundled with it?

extra cards do sound good tho

[vague abyss]

yea. im NEVER max on cem. like ever ever ever no matter how hard i stomp

unless im looting for 4 zones

and its ez to get cards when every kill can be doubled. if ur teamate kills, usually u give them the cards. but now u can get 2 cards no matter wat

[humble creek]

wait so how many more cards you get from the tuning thing?

[vague abyss]

im pretty sure 4

idk though

[humble creek]

damn thats pretty good

but sad he has no good costumes to use for the extra gp and or hp on rez thing

cause I saw a clip of it with ibara and it looked powerful

[vague abyss]

Ima cope and say they will come out with a lot of costumes to get people to roll. And make things cheaper to make people want to roll

id pay money atp. so its prime time for them to get it. but also they gota milk the whales for now

cause theres gota be a couple that just spending thousands right now

at least hundreds

[humble creek]

so what colour do you recommend again btw

cause you said options for what to run but the right combinations of those matter together

[vague abyss]

purple and yellow/blue

[humble creek]

so the villain style costume?

and those other 2

[vague abyss]

idk im not there

use brain

[humble creek]

yeah but just easier if you had a good build for it in your head already

alright

I mean most of these already have gp on revive anyway so like

why wouldn't I go for that

[vague abyss]

cuz what it pairs with shite. which i already said

but its prefrence

sry if i sound rude over text. but i gave a lot of info and its like people dont like thinking at all. im just trying to let u decide cuz at the end of the day, what i run might not be what u want to run and u culd waste a bunch of souls on something u wish u didnt do

twice seems like sweatier than ida. so i think thats better.
but ida seems more fun, so id run that most likely

zawa prolly better than dabi, but dabi seems more fun

so my builds based of fun might not be what you consider fun

im good enough to run lower, non optimal stuff so I wont die (aka not have fun)
but some people need the edge so they dont die so they can enjoy

ill live more with zawa, but i already live almost all the time

[humble creek]

I mean its fine I just don't wanna run stuff thats good but then have to also run stuff thats not good

I'll look into it myself later

[vague abyss]

But also they changed mmr, so id prolly die more often. If thats the case, id run zawa

yea, what i said is at the very least all good. Red is shite. yellow is meh, for surviving. zawa is for surviving. dabi is for dmg/surving
twice is more effective if u get it since lvls + dmg+surviging
ida is mostly surviving but more fun

ida is a little bit of dmg/surving since you could run on walls and save your ammo

gp on teamate = more likely to win. but relying on teamate for youre whole kit (since the red option is giga bad) feels wasteful

theres a website for the actual values if you need that to help

[humble creek]

yeah I know the database

[vague abyss]

mt ldy paired with zawa makes mt ldy stats better basically, for example. just gota think how they can boost/help eachother in combonation as well.

aighty good

gl

cem has like 3 options for skins imo so u cant mess up that bad

unless u go green with the red lol.

[humble creek]

but I mean I'm looking at what gp heal pairs with

you mean in like the special 2 slots or?

[vague abyss]

special tunings

[humble creek]

cause theres costumes with it both there and under the normal 5

[vague abyss]

only thing that matters

normal costumes are shite

u can do w.e atp

im just talkn for 3 star

since its a huggge investment

[humble creek]

no I mean I'm only looking at the 3 star costume rn

the overhaul tuning skill

[vague abyss]

yea, green paired with shite

[humble creek]

for the normal costume its a special tuning skill

and for the villain style its apart of the 5

actually its reversed but doesnt matter

[vague abyss]

just say the special tunings, and if its hero or villan

what i saw was green + red V

even if it was red + green V, i wuldnt run it

[humble creek]

no but like here

It's not in the 2 special tuning slots

[vague abyss]

those are w.e

[humble creek]

ohh it doesn't apply the special tuning skill if it's not actually the special tuning

well why would it tell you anyway if you click on it lmao

[vague abyss]

thats y u were confused lmao

[humble creek]

yeah but like is the blue one not bad?

red and green

oh wait no overhaul with it?

[vague abyss]

aint no way u asking me lol

[humble creek]

lol I assumed you just checked for all the ones that had the gp rev cause you said all of them had bad pairings

[vague abyss]

i only check special tunings

thats it

gp rev is with shite pariings

[humble creek]

I mean theres only 1 pairing for the gp rev anyway I can see on the villain style

more dmg on guard break isnt the worst I guess

hey I mean your teammates getting a whole ass gp refill on rev

powerful stuff

[vague abyss]

true

[humble creek]

you'd go for smthn different?

[vague abyss]

rhetorical question?

[humble creek]

I want to know beyond the yes or no part

[vague abyss]

beyond?

i gave u info lol

[humble creek]

so you'd run stuff to make you live longer is the tldr

fair

[vague abyss]

no

id run fun stuff

ida paired with dabi wudlnt make me live as long as zawa paired with my ldy for example. or zawa with ida.

or zawa with mt ldy. that would prolly make me live the most

but i wuldnt run that

it probably is the best though in general

but dabi is more fun than zawa

so it really depends on the person

[humble creek]

aizawa being the one that makes you drink faster for a short time after the game starts

idk dabi honestly might be better for your survival there

[vague abyss]

u can pot literally anywere as cem

ur getting a mini off 100% of the time

[humble creek]

yeah but the thing is only for a set amount of time

like how long is it actually

[vague abyss]

yea. 3 star last all game

the website shows u

3 star = 20 min on max

[humble creek]

lvl 11 has it go up to 1200.0

I see

yeah alright I see now

damn if he gets a costume pairing that with the compress one

[vague abyss]

overhaul*

[humble creek]

but I feel like cem isn't as safe nowadays cause like 20 characters in the roster can get up to him

[humble creek]

oh I guess but I was thinking more if you wanted to staccck team heals

[vague abyss]

its just full team heal only

and a basic costume is good enuf for that shite tbh

each lvl lets u get an extra full team heal. so 1 slot will let u hold 4 teams heals at lvl 3

its a waste even for momo

well i know max lets u hold 15. none the less, its doggy

until they change it

[humble creek]

I see

well heat costume it is then

[vague abyss]

wat combo is that

[humble creek]

the one with the zawa and mt lady

though what was the one that gave more cards again?

[vague abyss]

twice. it seems real good

if ur teamates know about it, its super duper snowball

[humble creek]

ohh the dangerous day off has the zawa and twice one

I wasn't really feeling the mt lady one anyway

I think I'll still play more games of cementoss tho before I decide to tune him cause I should be good with lvl 9 alpha but I feel like I kinda just am not

[vague abyss]

yea im not feeln mt ldy either, but it might be better for like silver/gold lobbies.

twice might give you 5 cards on max lvl tbh. someone said they were getting 3 cards on a basic tuning, but that doesnt make sense.

and i seen someone give 5 cards just now, but they culd just had a card they didnt use.

still, double cards is insane value

and ull be maxed out on 2 abilites pretty quick, and being maxed is fun

[humble creek]

yeah for characters like cementoss and compress its really good

honestly this woulda got me back into compress if I had any of his 3 star costumes

alas I am costumeless

[vague abyss]

i might test basic tuning on twice. it might last all game but just u get 3 cards at lower lvls

if so, compress is valid

i tested ibara/ida and they last as long as it says. some thigns just seemed bugged

[humble creek]

I mean it says it only increases the effect time when you level it up

seems you get 4

[vague abyss]

Nah I used basic lvl 2 and only got 3.
But I heard people saying they get 4.

Think lvls matter for time and amount

[wet abyss]

Crank 90’s

[royal raft]

I’m GONNA become an amazing cementoss he looks really fun

[wet abyss]

Ye he’s really insane they did kinda screw him a bit his beta is messing up a lot but beyond that he’s a beast

[royal raft]

You think I’m gonna have to tune a 3 star costume for me to perform good?

Kind of a hassle and it costs a lot

[wet abyss]

You don’t have have too lol but if you do, reinforced revive is insane it will restore your Ally’s GP when you special action revive them

[lone saddle]

Does anyone have advice on fighting against a rapid Toga? I don’t struggle against anyone else as much as her.

[uncut rapids]

You don’t. You run.

Before she show you what that alpha do

[lone saddle]

What a menace

[bronze mortar]

Play defensive, pillars on your position, to have some defense not to gain height

[vague abyss]

ngl budget cementoss outfit (if they dont change aizawa tonight) skip reinforce. only 60 gp. i think i rather open boxes fast lol

maybe even civ revive

[jovial forge]

People still play with this character?

[mellow gale]

Yeah?

[jovial forge]

This was a question, I forgot to put the question mark, sorry

[slow imp]

smash

[lone saddle]

Absolutely

[vague abyss]

snowstorm. i guess i put it off long enough, ima make the guide.

[vague abyss]

part 1 to cementoss guidee https://youtu.be/P4MDVS1WDqs

[noble stirrup]

Dang, that was helpful. Actually didn't know about the Alphas on the corners of the tower thing, I usually just Gamma for cover.

[vague abyss]

Bro did u watch in 2x speed or what. Been like 10 minutes lol

24 min long lol

Also ty

[noble stirrup]

I got up to that point lol, I'll be sure to watch the rest later. Rarely see people talk Cementoss tech.

[stiff glacier]

You’ve done it! Nice! I’ll watch it after work 👍

[elfin dome]

I have no reason to 1v1 any of u block men on pc so thank god amen hallelujah

[vague abyss]

Asked for 1s on everyone else lol. No 1 plays this dude hu

[coral mauve]

If I see one more Cementoss I’m gonna crash the f out

[elder heart]

Could anyone explain his beta a little bit more? I move in the direction I want the wall but it sometimes still feels like It's just randomly placing them... For example in these two pictures I pressed no other input but tapped the beta key once and I get two different structures

Also how do I do this structure, I did it on accident 😭

[vague abyss]

left right down will make the structuree go horizontal as long as you are holding it. once you let go, it will go straight.

If the first picture you pressed nothing, then your controller is most likely messed up. That doesnt happen withouht directional input

last picture, you were holding a direction, then holding nothing (or up which is the same thing) then you held a direction towards the end

[elder heart]

Its hella confusing for me man but I appriciate it 😭 Also watched your guide love it

[vague abyss]

u just hold those directions and it will spawn that way WHILE its spawning

[elder heart]

bros single handily supporting the cementoss community respect

[winged bridge]

What should you do as Cementos?

[uncut rapids]

You ever play fortnite?

[winged bridge]

NO!

[uncut rapids]

Then it might be a bit more difficult

[vague abyss]

bro is too lazy to scroll up half a page

[winged bridge]

Which one of us?

[uncut rapids]

Lms

[vague abyss]

did u not watch the vid i made?
i know im supposed to make a pt 2, but honestly dont see much people tryna learn him so im like w.e right now

[winged bridge]

Video, an YouTube Video?

[vague abyss]

^

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[winged bridge]

This One?

[uncut rapids]

HOF Ball Knowledge

[bitter carbon]

I haven't seen a single cementoss this season lol

[noble stirrup]

I use him occasionally, the Overhaul perk is really good on him

[humble creek]

can’t blame them

nejire, hawks, rapid Bakugo, Mirio

Sad state of affairs

[uncut rapids]

He’s sneaky, only likes to pop up when teammates go down then they get rez’d

[light raft]

@vague abyss Bruh

[humble creek]

did you get cooked

[vague abyss]

kurigi tuning works all game mostly, just like zawa. im running those 2 on basic skin.
only other basic skin id consider is kota finder zawa. people are not running kota as much these days

[humble creek]

yeah the few times I've played compress with a lvl 6 kota finder its been uncontested

guess it's cause there are better ones but for the lvl up characters that really need it like compress and cementoss it's really good

[vague abyss]

https://youtu.be/XBXYLXa55Y4?si=fm7VS3QTWCjuud-r

Don't think I posted this.
Making a part 2 maybe in like 5 months cuz I'm just using kuri right now. But some inspiration for any lurking cementoss players.
Might have to explicity drop a/some combo(s) that I've kept on the dl cause ain't no one playing this dude.

A f it I'll just say. Beta alpha is a true combo. Change your hz to 60 or above, I forgot which.
Depending on, if you look STRAIGHT UP you'll spawn on top of it. Then you can alpha someone you hit. OR you can hit a beta and on the right side you can side step and alpha. Left is harder or not possible if u don't look up to stand on ur beta

His beta being bugged; gota know this to keep up with the meta

[vague abyss]

I wonder if mods can pin this.
It's an all in 1 guide to cem (except for the combo mentioned above and lil other small things)

I might make a pt 2 in detail on things I left out one day far far away when I'm feeling inspirational. Maybe if I get this guys PUR costume I'll play and feel it.

I think the vid is transcripted but I can add subtitles if someone is deaf per chance

[bitter carbon]

ur cracked man

I hope other people think I'm as good at Dabi as you are at Cement Man

[sly bear]

Dude lowk

Is wall run + civilian rescue is the move?

[vague abyss]

Zawa perk is too good competitively. Can pop a blue pot like at any moment literally. Might as well be sisterly on him.
Also it's paired with yellow so you could run sistely even lol. With premade it's worth prolly if u can melee the downed person. U just don't die for 30 seconds once u hit it ESP with zawa perk.

Civ is pretty strong but you need lvls and also you're not rapid mobile so you won't farm as efficient.
. It's bugged so it lasts all game lvl 1 most times. You can see how you feel. Run on basic fit (1 star is cheapest)
Same with zawa perk.

Wall run won't be bad since enemies won't know ur running on wall when out of vision and you have your own pillars u can resuse + get height to throw alphas. Seems fun at the very least if you care more about that.
Also twice ain't bad for lvls since cem is a god at max lvls

Really depends on you. Those 2 color combos are viable in general.

[fossil comet]

Support your teammates 😂

[fossil comet]

I've seen a few

[sly bear]

hmm ngl not sure how often u can get a sisterly out

like i feel like it goes against how he can be played

also Civ as bugged as aizawa perk so they both last forever

i only had one random game where it stopped working i dunno why

[vague abyss]

i just said its bugged lol.
and also said sisterly with premade is fine. You can proc it on most downs u get.
Or in buildings its easier.
Also u can use ur structers to make melee scenerios easier/more often (but prolly will be rare to pull off)
ud be suprised on how much effectivness ud get out of it. No 1 melees so people thought it would be hard, but now everyone running it. I seen a cem use it (premade) and any down the team got he (i assume) meleed them. U can knocked down people towards you as well, so third partying will be easier.

[sly bear]

you might be cooking

[vague abyss]

I bet ull get more milage than mt ldy. max lvl its 30 seconds, or 25 if it can be only lvl 10.

[sly bear]

super hard to pull off but man thats intereating

[vague abyss]

if it was 25 then maybe less worth but u can always swap it

[sly bear]

it'd be lvl 10 for me yah

man i rly wonder what wall run would be like on bro

what do u guys think r the best tunings for cementoss

[vague abyss]

use speed cards to see what it would be like lol. can go to solos match and just use lvls on speed cards and run and fight

also his purple yellow lets kendo have 30 seconds.
his best choices are
zawa / yellow costume imo. then
blue / zawa costume

idc about reinforced since its paried with red villian which is kinda dog. Hope he gets better costumes that have reinforce with literally any other combo

if u want wall run then ur fine. U can always swap it with twice which is also good for cem. As long as u got zawa u cant go wrong.
But on purp yellow, u can maybe skip zawa and go dabi if u want (his cooldowns are kinda short on alpha/beta so u can legit spam)

[fossil comet]

He has some cool outfits. I like the casual clothes

[fossil comet]

So I found out the c quirk can be used to close small gaps when you jumping from building to building

[noble stirrup]

reinforced revive is too good to pass up on Cementoss imo

even if the red slot is fairly useless

[fossil comet]

Yeah if you have teammates to worry about

I don't play him in solos unfortunately

[elder heart]

Sigh. I miss cementoss.

[stiff glacier]

What is strong about the Civ tuning? Only because it lasts the whole game? Or did I misunderstand it?

[vague abyss]

Team heals are op in general and cementoss can use them pretty well (esp if you know his bug tech)
That and if you pair it with zawa you can always get off the blue team shield in time which is very useful 2 fold.
1 being obviously teamates not dying before it pops off, but also cause now you have more time to maybe get a green sheild off as well since the enemy has less time to damage your teams health since your using blue so quick.
Also support passive is decent with team heals since you get less gp/hp each time you team heal the 10% boost matters more. Idk exactly how it works or if it refreshes after a while in game or what. 2 supports and you're going to heal full for way longer.

[stiff glacier]

Wait you get less GP/HP the more you team heal???? I always thought the changes in numbers were explained by differences in max HP and/or green characters being in the party or not, thanks for clarifying that!

I might try this build honestly, it sounds actually useful for a low level build

[stiff glacier]

Which costume are you running then?

I don't see the right colors

[vague abyss]

He has no purp yellow basic costume. That's pur.

I don't have pur so I'm runnin basic purp green. Zawa/kuro. Both last all game

[stiff glacier]

Ah dang it

I don't have Kurogiri sadly

I guess I can wait to get 100 of his but that's luck based

I'll get it eventually

[vague abyss]

But if i had pur I'd do purp and idk what.

Don't need. Go any costume that u can gk zawa on.

[stiff glacier]

I'm using basic costume since I don't have PUR so I might as well pick one with a color that has an effect that also lasts the whole game

Since I can't level it up

[vague abyss]

The 2 star isn't bad. Keys are 5 each one.
U can go kota/zawa on that one. Kota good low lvls too tbh and less people go kots finder nowadays

Anything with zawa and you're good

[stiff glacier]

Yeah I guess it's not half bad

Gotta run the ugliest fit, but that's a price I'm willing to pay

[vague abyss]

Prolly best one.
Next season they letting u wear w.e costume you want basically so ur not stuck with ugly

[stiff glacier]

Yeah, it'll probably take until next season to gather the upgrade materials anyway

Since I got nothing left

[vague abyss]

Also u don't need kuro. U can go another green villian.

It doenst take much keys lol and u don't need to put any special tuning item slots in since lvl 1 is free (i beleive)

But the icons, yeah if u got none of those then rip. Next season they making it way easier to get those

[stiff glacier]

Yeah I'm lacking in icons I just spend on stupid stuff when tunings came out

And didn't play a lot this season

I guess Zawa + lvl 3 Overhaul for 30GP on revive is what I'm gonna go for

Kota Finder only triggers after 52s at lvl 3 (max level on the 2star costume) so I think it's a bit late maybe? Whereas Overhaul I can a tad bit of value at least

[vague abyss]

Overhaul value like w.e
Levels on cem is huge and that's not really late.
Idk ur rank or console but where I'm at, Kota is often enough not found that soon to where it's worth going it

But it's 5 keys instead of one so lil more expensive

[stiff glacier]

I don’t really mind keys so it’s fine

[lavish sparrow]

some very mid cementoss clips to try and keep this thread alive 🙏

[lavish sparrow]

That's what I'm planning to run too

Either that or Overhaul + Wall run just for fun

[fossil comet]

I might have to play cementos for a bit

[noble stirrup]

He's fun. Definitely feels more safe to play him since all the most notable flyers got nerfed

🟰

[humble creek]

rapid bakugo remains

cementoss players lucky that barely anyone plays him

for some reason

[hoary bone]

I was streamsniping some kind individuals but this todo is a MASHER

styled on for the fashion

[sly bear]

Bug tech?

[vague abyss]

smart way to proc sisterly.

[hoary bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1224050564766240859/1349064505828835509/Desktop_2025.03.05_-_20.09.31.19.DVR.mp4?ex=67d1bdba&is=67d06c3a&hm=7c8d967a77628b628d022bd7979e1b2ff5efa505f3576768f084a8d8c4da5d0e&

[jade skiff]

@light raft

Make this place active

Be a messiah

[light raft]

I can't

Ill make a video but it's up to the real mains to work there magic

[jade skiff]

Sure

[light raft]

I tried making videos for like 8 other characters but got shut down

[jade skiff]

This time will be diffent (cope)

[light raft]

Check other characters tabs and see my attempt

[jade skiff]

I saw you did one on momo in the past I didn’t see others

Lemme check

[light raft]

Anything with a tuning thumbnail. I even used my tuning resources to help 😢

[jade skiff]

oh…

[light raft]

People not biting the bait

[jade skiff]

Make a cool looking thumbnail this time! Ask cursed

[light raft]

Nah I'm old

[jade skiff]

Then just edit a photo of him and celebrate his birthday

[light raft]

If the thumbnail not good enough I'm cooked

What's the latest guide/vid i should be watching to learn cementoss

Just throw rocks right?

[jade skiff]

Yeppir

[jade skiff]

Uhm that’s the thing

There hasn’t been like a guide in maybe months

Just watch the 10 clips of people playing here

[light raft]

No one upgraded his playstyle?

Crazy work

[jade skiff]

Uhm maybe

[light raft]

Especially with tuning

[jade skiff]

I mean tuning doesn’t really change him much

[jade skiff]

This video gives a good idea of tuning tho

[light raft]

It does everything for him just go on my stream leater today I'll show you

Like in 10 min

[jade skiff]

Ok

Wouldn’t u just add the support rivive tunings like overhaul?

[light raft]

Super simple how to play him

I just don't play him cause I am buns with aiming 😈

[light raft]

Nope

[jade skiff]

Same that’s why I play kendo, momo, and compress 🔥

[hoary bone]

Im the

prophet

[jade skiff]

Woah

[hoary bone]

of cementoss gameplay

[jade skiff]

Another person

[light raft]

Make the guide

What's wrong with you

[hoary bone]

alot of character's gameplay actually

Im THE

AFO

Im THE Deku

[jade skiff]

Make a cementoss guide then

[hoary bone]

Im THE Kiri

[light raft]

Nah you just too good. You'r an anomaly

Keep out of this. let me cook

[hoary bone]

uhhhh

I think

[light raft]

Let someone with bad aim cook

Which is me

[hoary bone]

Im not qualified to teach

[light raft]

😈

[hoary bone]

I just backseat

[light raft]

Twice coaching yes

[hoary bone]

until it makes sense

[jade skiff]

Your like the 5th person that plays cemmentoss you gotta be the one to stand up

[hoary bone]

ok

Well

I can give some pointers on cementoss

Movement

Pillar up

Roll off

air melee before hitting the ground

[light raft]

I do that

[hoary bone]

repeat

Kiting

[light raft]

Pple been doing that since season 1 no change to playstyle

[hoary bone]

Pillar

Roll

Beta

Push back

with alphas

these are like for like

old map

but on the newer maps

you can either

bunker with cementoss

[light raft]

Make it into a video

[hoary bone]

with max beta

[light raft]

Cment players need content

[hoary bone]

or run around with alpha

and kill people

[light raft]

I Hella don't max beta just alpha and gamma

Need them med kits

[hoary bone]

I like max gamma

but

[jade skiff]

Like look, the last person to play and upload with cementoss was a ranked gameplay 3 weeks ago

[hoary bone]

beta is very important

as

At level 9 beta

[light raft]

I'm not gonna be in front of someone since I'm using alpha and gamma to keep them away

[hoary bone]

or 4

it can pair well

with alpha

[light raft]

It's a skill issue since your already making a tower and seeing where everyone is

If someone gets in front of u that's on you

For not looking

😈 😈 😈

You can already alpha away it's fine

✅

[hoary bone]

You're not seeing what im saying

After a pillar to attack someone

[jade skiff]

All I know is alpha twice then big hit

[hoary bone]

You can beta to bring the ground

Up to you

and throw and alpha

[light raft]

Alpha gamma can kill 300 hp

[hoary bone]

onto the beta

to cover more of their wake up options

[light raft]

But why be in front of someone?

When u already making a tower

[jade skiff]

You seem to know a lot funny man, why not put this on a video

[light raft]

And throwing rocks from afar

[hoary bone]

Cementoss has a very evil combo game

[light raft]

Why do the extra?

Style points?

[hoary bone]

because Im a clip farmer

[light raft]

Lmmmmaaaaooooooo

[hoary bone]

winning is so optional for me

[light raft]

@jade skiff you see!. I got to deal with the wall that's known as @hoary bone

😢

[hoary bone]

with a lot of characters

[jade skiff]

You seem like your having fun

[hoary bone]

and this game in particular

you cant like

tell people

how to play

[light raft]

That's mhur you better be having fun that's why funny clip farms

[light raft]

Kendo nerf flashbacks

They got me good now she dead again

[hoary bone]

Kendo needs her damage

also that kendo change

[light raft]

She needs that combo

[hoary bone]

was a buff

not a nerf

[light raft]

Clap a beamer away so he can kite

That's crazy work

[hoary bone]

she cant be contested by other characters with armor

anymore

and

[jade skiff]

Kendo should be nerfed again so there’s less Kendo’s 🔥

[light raft]

They wasn't a problem

[hoary bone]

she has time to sit on top of you

after a clap

[light raft]

Team exist and team heal blue exist

[hoary bone]

Sure she lost the denki tuning

[light raft]

She not killing as fast as beamer no more

That knockdown time is free heals

[hoary bone]

youre not thinking of kendo's team either

One melee

and they are gone

me and rotty were murdering people and speedran his ace

[light raft]

Yeah if cement not paying attention on his tower not tryna beta pple

😈 😈 😈 😈

Kendo shouldn't get to your face if people looks around

[hoary bone]

oh wait

are we talking about

kendo vs cementoss

[light raft]

That's her problem she not rewarded for getting close to something

Beamers can beam far away and chase if they see flesh

[jade skiff]

(This all started with a cementoss guide)

[light raft]

She has to get up then try to put in work

And we talking about the good characters like red deku of course your gonna clap the low tiers

Those good characters can escape

The bad characters gonan die like always

[hoary bone]

all it takes is one/two mistakes with tuning for kendo

to kill someone

[light raft]

Bad match ups

[hoary bone]

she technically

has bad match ups

where they cant do anything to kendo

and she cant touch them

[light raft]

Sisterly exist

In tourney I clapped

Aizawa erase alpha then melle for sisterly

[hoary bone]

ok but you had myne

[light raft]

Rip

[hoary bone]

and another random

[light raft]

Had to sit now and look at him

Stuff be wild

Anyways cment talking

[hoary bone]

oh wait

mandude's team

[light raft]

But it just shows by how much kendo players there are

Your not rewarded for going in

I need to speak up

[hoary bone]

the kendo on that team

doesnt play her

[light raft]

Hella sat

[hoary bone]

they just slapped him on kendo

[light raft]

Shield aizawa team

And as I said before pple really out here crashing out no strat

Huge skill gap in community I'm tryna fix it here

👁️ 👁️

[hoary bone]

I dont think

you can

[light raft]

100 points

Is wild

[hoary bone]

theres people hardstuck expert 1

[jade skiff]

Wait you were the cool kendo in the tourney?!?

[hoary bone]

for a reason

[light raft]

We got 50

[light raft]

I exist pple out here gatekeeping me 😈

[hoary bone]

ok

ok

Seal team 6

was put in the scrims

[jade skiff]

Wait omg that’s so funny, you were the reason I started playing kendo

[hoary bone]

cuz we wanted to test mandude's team

[light raft]

Nah i think you thinking about the one that won

I lost

[hoary bone]

as he never played a competitive setting before

[light raft]

And swapped

I'm not a kendo main

[light raft]

I know. Pple still don't know im a momo main

[jade skiff]

Were you the one who was playing og map and tried surviving in the collapse zone?

[hoary bone]

Isnt your whole thing

[light raft]

Idk look for the name

[hoary bone]

sitting in storm as momo

[light raft]

You saw that last game

In the tourney

[hoary bone]

you were there

for

like

5 years

[light raft]

Did most damage and revived my teamate 4 times

[jade skiff]

Oh I can try and see if there’s footage I just don’t know if there is any

[light raft]

4 times is wild btw

[hoary bone]

yeah

you shouldnt be dying at all

[light raft]

That's time i could have been usong to get kills etc

[light raft]

That's what I'm tryna help my team with atm

Not looking good. Crashing out for 9 season make a person act dif

[hoary bone]

a good chunk of the people in the scrim

were playing like its ranked

as there would be 2 teams looting

and I look to the middle of the map

and theres a war

[jade skiff]

I love those kind of games with 8 teams left final circle

[hoary bone]

good luck in the tourney today

tho

[jade skiff]

Wman your gonna be there?

I’ll watch out for you

[light raft]

Ill be telling team to chill out. Nah but it's like that game we got 8 kill and most damage wheel the winner had 10

If we didn't dide we would have cooked

Hopefully they notice that

[jade skiff]

What kinda character are you gonna be running?

[light raft]

I'm a momo main 👁️ 👁️

[jade skiff]

So momo time!

What build

Double yellow?

[light raft]

👀 ill show the cment combo ima start strema in 1 min

[jade skiff]

K

[light raft]

Youtube or twitch

Any1 works

[jade skiff]

Utube

[light raft]

I mean i do both at same time lol

[jade skiff]

Ah

[light raft]

Jump to it

[plush minnow]

my kendo on top

[west ruin]

Wrong character discussion

[light raft]

@hoary bone what's the beta combo again

I think I'm onto something

Gonna build cmentoss today

[bitter carbon]

i hit the magic five ceiling pillar combo at lv 1 the other day in a game and I don't clip things so I'm sad that it will never see the light of day.

[vague abyss]

dang, woulda been in my highlight reel that im never gonna finish. wish i got to see

[bitter carbon]

it was on Chaos City in the little guaranteed gold box + max bag room in the north part, underground

I had beta'd to set up a wall and trap the endeavor in with me

he had nowhere to go and it was so tight that it was easy to manage the alphas

[molten tundra]

Any tips for a new celentoss player ?

[lavish sparrow]

New cementoss pillar buff goes crazy

[lavish sparrow]

uhhhh be creative always be on the high ground and help your team out

[jade skiff]

Use blocks

[lavish sparrow]

kaje get on cementoss bro💔

[vague abyss]

Maybe next time just to rep it. Tried a strat and it halfway payed off but finals was not good. Played scared so we just kinda did nothing lol. But I don't cem these days fr, kinda overplayed him and kuro has as much potential really and a breath of fresh air.

[vague abyss]

Old guide ^ it's good enough for new folk.
Only thing I gatekept are bugs and his beta alpha combo.

Also hz settings effect what happens when u look up and beta. 60 hz settings I think if u look up on max beta u don't stand on top of it, but other lvls u do. 240/unlimited I think u always do. Something like that.
Anyways it's pretty good thing to do when u beta for beta alpha combo. But u can just alpha anyways without that (right side is easier)

[vague abyss]

^

[vague abyss]

good news, beta is way beter.
bad news, his knocks put them in a super fast animation so its literally 10x harder to land double alphas. idk if bug or not cause its only him from what i seen

maybe not 10x but still. some alphas have 0 chance of connecting in combos, depending on how its placed etc. rip
(It's fixed or was just training bug)

most notabaly, his gamma alpha alpha combo aint gona hit the same zzz

but you still can land it thankfully,

might be some new combos u can do with it perhaps.

[stiff glacier]

What’s better about his Beta?

[vague abyss]

It basically spawns no matter what. It Will crumble if it's in a bad spot but at least the first will go. And in general it's just staying. And it's climbing up/down a lot easier. It's the 2nd best his betas ever been tbh.

[noble stirrup]

Oh that's good

Was worried it'd always screw me over when I'm forced to fight indoors lol

[sonic storm]

Lvl up order

And combo

Build

Tuning

[vague abyss]

MY lvl order complicated so u can just find it in my guide. Same with how to combo. Since animations are different this season, you have to aim differetnly. I say how in the description but

"going towards them is still viable, but hitting directly under thier feet is where you want to aim now instead of on the edge like i demonstrated (on hp still easy. You still want to go towards them. On alpha 1/4 same princaple, but you might not get the sweet spot so just alpha the ground to juggle."

hp/gp dmg tunings best as his actual structures dont get bonuses from "alpha dmg increase" etc.

[vague abyss]

from there and down we talk about tunings. ima time stamp this so people can just look it up itzkaje cementoss tuning

unironically, nej is a good tuning on him.

also i think hawks tuning itself is really good, but you gota learn setups to get more melees off

because he got beta buff is why i mainly thing its good. also if u run sisterly, get down, you can now hit the body anywhere without having to keep track of it and use it for bait etc.

but hawks is more for clipfarming (wish i had pur skin )

denkis as well indoors prolly good since cem has 100-0 potential fr. that and the idea of rapid toga not being able to gamma u seems fine. But all those i mentioned are not recomended for begginers

sisterly maybe so just cause u can get them on downs. its just busted.

for noobs, A9 rush so you can combo easier.

G9 next unless you want to learn how to use his beta.

I max beta 2nd personally.

I think its best, except for ua island map you can debate both

[burnt gazelle]

Did not know he did this.

[hoary bone]

lowkey aura

[hidden sky]

Does cementoss's alpha still have a delayed attack ?

[vague abyss]

Idk what that means. Yes? Structure is formed then u take dmg 3 frames later if in contact.

[velvet siren]

is there any cementoss players here..

I wanna learn the ways of the cementoss..

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[humble creek]

they should just pin your video in here fr

[vague abyss]

You can edit msgs so thats y no pin. Not like it would help, people hate scrolling more than 3 messages back. Literally replied to my guide lol

might clean it up, condense, add more once im done with my cem montage though

[humble creek]

That's a pretty bad reason lol

They can just post your video themselves and pin it

or warn or mute you if you do edit it

[velvet siren]

Omg u are something else

this was actually fun to watch

u juggle them

[velvet siren]

@vague abyss be proud of me! https://streamable.com/pakoap

[vague abyss]

What a ride that was lol.

Love the sense tho. I can't aim unless it's lower but it's just annoying moving my hand so much. Aim was a lot better though

When It was lower

[velvet siren]

i just gotta work on my aim

and predicting enemy movements

idk how to juggle them off the ground in an oopen area

[vague abyss]

The journey is long bur rewarding.

[velvet siren]

im feeling it i had a better clip but it failed to load

[vague abyss]

My guide tells ya kinda.

Ah rip

U gotta watch it though. It hurts my soul each time I see a cem jump gamma lol

Ace cems do it even

[velvet siren]

jump gamma?

[vague abyss]

(It's fine on flesh though)

[velvet siren]

u mean like doit in the air?

[vague abyss]

Ye

[velvet siren]

cuz it leaves me vulnerable

thats something i did realize

[vague abyss]

That ain't the reason

[velvet siren]

o?

[vague abyss]

.

Gamma alpha isn't a combo on shield unless u walk cancel it. That's the main reason

(But if they are in air then on shield is also fine often enough)

[vague abyss]

Respect though for fighting like 3 on no lvls or sheilds fr lol.

[velvet siren]

teammates ran off lmao

[vague abyss]

I need to watch my pu. Taught me something new

[velvet siren]

https://streamable.com/wu35dn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314363575011119166/1327684435583307877/yuseongbyeolbi1_-_1877698021988995385.gif

@vague abyss

i think i understand it now

[vague abyss]

A looot better 🗿

[jade skiff]

The first cementoss trainee in months

[hoary bone]

I put wallrunner on him

[tawdry forge]

https://youtu.be/78H28c5S4_c?si=5exQ4V30ai6Oqhk0

[vague abyss]

livin out my dreams.
for sure will go purple blue special tuning on him if i ever get

wana try out nej and see how it pairs with ochako

revenge.

but ochako is coming out so maybe that sp will be similar

[sick heart]

[tawdry forge]

Cementoss is clutch !!( MY HERO ULTRA RUMBLE )
https://youtu.be/EQYNfNUashA

[noble stirrup]

y'know, whenever I get back on Cementoss I always forget how fun he is

making people go up in the air from Alphas, or just sniping with Beta

fun asf

great insta rev user as well

[golden portal]

cementos is so fun but i gotta wait till i get a skin to use em again

I miss playing him so bad bro I YEARN for him

[zenith zinc]

if you have his 2* clinging principle you have a decent option

I run it with willpower+ high speed

[golden portal]

i do, and you might be spitting actually, tysm

[golden portal]

i feel like I remember someone talking about Cementos Skills not being effected by quirk skill atk +, double checking if you or anyone else might know if that's true before i tune it up

[zenith zinc]

I checked a clip back for you

level 9 alpha should do 60. I do 80 per tick of it

gamma I'm doing a bit more as well. 40 at level one I saw instead of 35 but alpha boost is where it's scary. the gamma buffs are mostly used because they're from colours that aren't red

[golden portal]

right on, tysm

[vague abyss]

Objects basically don't still. So 2nd part of alpha/gamma don't and none of beta.
Hp dmg and gp dmg are fine

[zenith zinc]

good to know, I knew it was at least partially buffing them with A and Y atk

beta not getting anything is crazy

[sly bear]

cementos get shadow buffed or nerfed?

[golden portal]

someone said buffed their beta but i know 0 details