Mr. Compress

[torn herald]

But anyways, I'll leave any other critique to the other Compress players here, may have said a bit too much

[rapid verge]

its like whenever i get into a lobby with a compress on my team its either theyre really bad or like 5 year old toddlers on their first ps4

like what are you doing
https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/lhLIQW33pdh65UoxA?invite=cr-MSxVbk0sOTY0MDMxNA&v=15

why are u standing there help me

i didnt clip past this but he was like spamming m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 on like a wall

theres also this

https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/lhKQ9sJ56xd885z0e?invite=cr-MSxOaXAsOTY0MDMxNA&v=15

like dude what are u doing

lobotomite

[shrewd cairn]

Bro was checking for chests but his OCD kicked in 😭

[rapid verge]

the window caught a stray

[shrewd cairn]

Fr fr

[hoary ether]

W You Say Run

Also FR

[rapid verge]

LOLOLOL

[hoary ether]

Like

Literally tell me how can you be allowed to tell me you can do THIS MUCH DAMAGE??

https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/lhJxpWBD7-DWghz44?invite=cr-MSw4WTIsMzg0MDM3MDMy&v=9

Full shield and health down to 19 health

[rapid verge]

compress players do this in a match by clicking their mouse 5 times ho ho ho

[hoary ether]

And they say "He's perfectly balanced" 💀

[novel goblet]

The issue is that you can't really nerf his Alpha without ruining his kit

If his Alpha were to get another DP nerf, I'd want a melee buff to make his kit more versatile

[covert juniper]

I don’t think anyone here thinks he’s balanced

He’s a character who has been getting buffer since like season 1

I also hope for a heavy nerf to make him more fun

Like 1 gamma, no aoe, alpha dmg down, and trucks at 9

I’ve been having a lot of fun lately just leveling alpha to 4, but that’s still op. He’s a character who in no way is balanced

[rapid verge]

Trucks is at 4???

[marsh storm]

7
4 is rocks, 1 is barrels

[covert juniper]

No, rocks

rocks are very small so not much aoe, but they focus more on stun and are easier to hit imo

very fun to use in ranked and customs, so then I’m not really abusing trucks

[rapid verge]

Ohhhhh

[amber laurel]

Rocks have more "stun" hitbox? I thought you needed to land the marble.
Ngl i feel like they changed the hitbox of marble or somethn cuz too many times im being hitstunned by a compress

But if trucks/rocks have hitstun then it makes sense

[covert juniper]

So it’s kinda wierd, the marble and the rock are different. But once you hit the Marble the rock/truck exits

But then at the same time, if you hit just the marble at close range sometimes the rock/truck doesn’t hit

But at the same time, the marble hit box is extended in the aoe

that’s what I think happens

Could be wrong

[amber laurel]

so when the marble hits nothing, and when the item spawns, the marble hitbox is still there essentially but extended

[covert juniper]

The rocks don’t have a more hit box, but have a more precise hit because the marble and rock are similar in size

[covert juniper]

Yes, it’s just a much shorter stun from what I experienced

[amber laurel]

got it. precite it. was it always like that?

[covert juniper]

Since the buff in like season 6-7 yes

[amber laurel]

oh, never read that stun hitbox buff. prolly shadow. got it got it. welp if i ever decide to play him ill do that. just hate the movement change. feels too op and anti fun to play

[covert juniper]

Yea, that’s why I limit myself to gamma 8 and alpha 4-6

[amber laurel]

aaaah smart smart! now i can play him again lol (im going gamma 9 still prol)

[drowsy lichen]

I'm gonna isekai everyone

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-isekai-isekai-truck-gif-20217591

[covert juniper]

Thanks for the enlightenment redacted

[drowsy lichen]

I'm not gonna restrict my level cap because of the inertia change this season

Compress was always an issue but now he's at the center of the circus

With the other miscreants

[stone sorrel]

space hop plus movement changes made this thing a monster ngl

[limber hazel]

I hate all of you (Sorry)

[daring jay]

You don't hate us enough.

[limber hazel]

I do

Mr. Compress mains

(Sorry)

[novel goblet]

I can't hear you from the overwhelming sound of flying trucks

(the hate is understandable)

[fathom python]

Shout out to this person for being the only other Mr. Compress in the match and just emoting (We were the only two Mr. Compress players)

[covert juniper]

Trucks?

https://tenor.com/view/madara-uchiha-madara-meteorite-stone-hashirama-gif-26741697

[fathom python]

Trucks

[covert juniper]

I’m more of a 4-6 guy

[jade pond]

https://tenor.com/view/truck-gif-15610189081578165338

[humble sorrel]

Compress out here doing truck-kun's job isekaing mhur players

What a legend

[fathom python]

He was in the same boat as me (Ametur 4, killed by Rapid Midoriya, Strike Bakugou, and Shigaraki but I can't remember which one)

[novel goblet]

Young AFO's Beta can be blocked by Compress

I'm pretty sure

Gamma too (the second variant as well as the first)

And Special Action I think...

[covert juniper]

I would guess alpha right?

[timber hollow]

what would be better on compress with the new AFO tuning

Wall runner
critical permeation
high speed replen

[jade pond]

Depends on your preference.

Space hop, high speed, embrittlement, revenge technical, crit perm, card dupe, divine protection are all good

[covert juniper]

Space hop

[novel goblet]

Yes

[novel goblet]

Has anyone tried Hawks' tuning on Compress yet?

[jade pond]

eh seems mid

crushing PU is so much better

[covert juniper]

It’s good in tourneys and scrims, but ranked or casual it’s bad

If your doing casual or ranked stick to crushing PU

[proven palm]

Electrification or critical perm?

[novel goblet]

Critical Permeation

electrification is kinda useless on compress

[proven palm]

I just figured it might help against blue deku

[proven palm]

How should I use the i frames from critical permeation?

[shrewd cairn]

Drink a small blue potion

Gamma away

[covert juniper]

Crit perm Is more of a tool to analyze your situation after drinking a mini and going on from there

[covert juniper]

Compress costume tomorrow

Something new

[limber hazel]

Is there an update tomorrow?

[novel goblet]

Only downside is that you have to play Area Control to get it

[covert juniper]

Yea…

[covert juniper]

Sadly there’s prob not any nerfs

One man can only hope tho

[limber hazel]

I really want balance changes lol

[covert juniper]

Same

Some compress nerfs

[limber hazel]

I can't remain sane for much longer with the current meta

[novel goblet]

aaaall done

ill probably switch the rapid tuning, im still experimenting though

[covert juniper]

It released?!?

[novel goblet]

Yes

[covert juniper]

When

[novel goblet]

uhhhh

31 minutes ago

[covert juniper]

Wow

I thought there would be a downtime or sum

[novel goblet]

Perception is surprisingly useful

I can actually see my opponents whilst throwing trucks

[shrewd cairn]

I never thought about that but it’s a valid point ngl

I have graphics settings at the lowest and I still can’t see anything x)

[jade pond]

Perception is just too good. It lasts for an eternity

[proven palm]

Ok

What about acceleration

[hazy junco]

Strike Mr. Compress doesn't exi-

[drowsy lichen]

If only that villain slot was a hero tuning slot

Fixer would be crazy

[hazy junco]

Oh heck yeah

My name would be on the kill feed every second

[heavy kestrel]

I want this costume so bad💔

[novel goblet]

i genuinely haven't rolled a single compress outfit

the second he gets a costume pick up roll, my wallet is getting drained

[drowsy lichen]

I haven't rolled a single PUR outfit for him either

[proven palm]

I find dropping from the sky for a quick melee to be quite effective

Then my Acceleration activates

[novel goblet]

Bringing up an extremely old topic, but I think this update actually did the opposite

I've been missing air melee-melee a lot this season

[covert juniper]

Yes

The tracking on his air melee from gamma is extremely tight now

[drowsy lichen]

I've been landing it consistently

[lime glen]

How’s the new compress event skin?

[drowsy lichen]

It's alright

[proven palm]

Whyd the gamma do that

[novel goblet]

"Teleportation!"

i have no idea what caused it to do that though

my best guess is a pull character + lag

[proven palm]

But there was no grab

I think it somehow slid off of that mirio gamma

[novel goblet]

AH

okay wait

Mirio's Gamma reflects projectiles

maybe whilst in the marble, you're considered a projectile

i want to test this out

if that is the case, that's really interesting

alright nevermind, i have no idea wtf caused that lmao

[daring jay]

They got pulled by Tamaki while they were in marble and kept their momentum

Look at where the hit marker goes then look at what's in front of them 11 seconds in

As they're getting yoinked out

[novel goblet]

ah

i didn't even see a tamaki

[covert juniper]

I mean like air melee out of gamma into ground melee one

It’s possible to hit

But now has a smaller opening

[drowsy lichen]

I see

[drowsy storm]

while i wait for blue deku tuning

quad gamma reload

[drowsy lichen]

Had to save my Toga 6 times with special action

[novel goblet]

support points made ranked much more bearable this season

i think the special action buff is extremely underrated

[jade pond]

Don't sleep on Compress

https://tenor.com/view/atsuhiro-sako-mr-compress-bhna-mr-compress-mha-mr-compress-atsuhiro-sako-mha-gif-10459844253338381463

[heavy kestrel]

This gif is frying me 😭

[covert juniper]

Anything but these haunting gifs 💔

[jade pond]

Lol for sure

[shrewd cairn]

Who is this btw?

This character keeps popping up when I wanna send Compress gifs x)

[limber hazel]

Lol

I have no idea

[novel goblet]

I have the whole collection of these gifs

[proven palm]

Can someone explain to me why critical permeation is good

To me it just seems like this

[novel goblet]

Works as a way to break out of combos, usually allows you to get off a mini shield at the very least, and works as a nice escape option

it took me some time adjusting to it, since i usually just gamma away upon most guardbreaks

but im definitely performing better with critical permeation

[proven palm]

Ok

And just to double check because you seem to know stuff

Acceleration is good right?

[novel goblet]

I've not tested it myself, but I think Duch said it's one his best tunings (if I'm remembering correctly)

Or at least, it's his current favourite

[proven palm]

Yeah it feels amazing to imitate THOSE monomas

Spamming so many trucks

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-undertale-deltarune-gif-8006577193793263180

[shrewd cairn]

Breaks out of combos sometimes, in any case drink a small blue potion, wait a bit for your cooldowns and Gamma away

It’s not my favorite because I’d rather have something aggressive but it will save your skin more often than not

And for now, no one knows how to play around it and it’s super annoying to notice as there is barely any visual effect when it triggers

[proven palm]

Should I run reinforced revive or divine protection

There really isn't many green special tunings

[covert juniper]

Hmm

[proven palm]

I summoned the Ibara player huh

[covert juniper]

I hate reviving so I would choose divine

[covert juniper]

NO

[proven palm]

Ok ok jeez

[covert juniper]

Not a filthy ibara

[jade pond]

it prevents you from getting TOD'd, which is insane on it's own.

especially from low DP warriors, like enemy Compress' or Rapid Ochaco for example

[proven palm]

If i ever get a costume where I can run acceleration and permeation I will

Thanks for the advice

[jade pond]

divine protection is actually insane, especially in higher elo ranked lobbies. Gatekeeping big chests and then opening it in a mosh pit. Gets your level ups faster to max out trucks and gamma

[proven palm]

Also is it possible to use my beta to bait a melee (excluding ofa deku) only to hit them with my own?

[heavy kestrel]

I remember seeing everyone in that channel doing something ibara with the anything stuff😭

[novel goblet]

Probably not

Compress' melee 1 is very slow

[proven palm]

I'm sorry but I dont recognize that series 😭

[marsh storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-black-cat-meowing-cats-gif-2660211129583787488

[proven palm]

Who decided that?

[novel goblet]

To be fair, Endeavor's melee is arguably worse than Compress'

Very cool though

[opal portal]

do you guys think his gamma need a buff?

[novel goblet]

Absolutely not 😭😭

[shrewd cairn]

Compress?? No way, his Gamma is amazing

I just hope they don’t nerf it, but they might

[novel goblet]

i think it's the best mobility based move in the hame

game*

in the dub, he literally says "teleportation"

[jade pond]

Buff in what way? It’s like the best mobility/escape tool in the game rn. And also does damage. On a 5 second cooldown too.

[torn herald]

PLEASE No

It's in a very good spot where it is as of now, anything else added to it will make it an absolute mess

[drowsy lichen]

Some would say that he's too good

[daring jay]

I'd rather have it butchered

I don't really care either way though

[grand pumice]

Whats the best tuning for compress?

[novel goblet]

Space Hop

With either Crit Perm or Acceleration

There's also probably a few nice Strike tunings that work for him

[grand pumice]

I have only these skins

[broken ferry]

Base pirate with critical permeation and space hop

[grand pumice]

tyy, not the right one with space hop and strike shiggy right?

[broken ferry]

Yw the one with the purple and yellow slots

[grand pumice]

the one with yellow and villain red

[broken ferry]

The one you have selected in the photo is the right one

[grand pumice]

alright ty, just asked how about the other one

maybe good too

but i see, tyyy

[broken ferry]

Yw me personally the special red villain tunings arent worth it and trust me critical permeation will save your life alot

[grand pumice]

tyyy

Good ones?

[grand pumice]

.

[broken ferry]

Do you hit alot of melees?

[grand pumice]

Depends but with compress not really

[broken ferry]

If you have enough data replace salt shiggy with salt endy

[grand pumice]

i don’t have endy

i would pick him otherwise

[broken ferry]

Same but lemme log in to compare our builds

[timber hollow]

muscle form + high speed replen
(good for extra tankiness with plus ultra)

wall runner + high speed replen
(extra mobility since u wouldn't have the second gamma if u do a7 g9 lvl order)

critical perm + space hop
(good defense, have arial view even without using gamma so much, i might do this)

which one is best for compress

[shrewd cairn]

Crit perm + space hop based on what most people do and say here

Imma do double yellow with space hop and Young AFO which is probably a great one too.

[covert juniper]

I’ve been actually having crazy fun with fixer + ability manifest

130 dmg alphas and extended reload cards

Makes compress gamma incredible

[timber hollow]

Ohhh yes the young afo is gonna be so op. every time i use my gamma and get arial view i always guard break

so it would be so good

[meager trench]

That one is gonna be really good

[covert juniper]

ok we're like halfway done the season

so these are my favorite builds

my #1 atm, great reloads. good dmg. Muscle form allows you to work around compresses small amount of weaknesses

#2, highest dmg build. Great if you dont want space hop, and allows you too use tech cards even longer

#3 I use this off and on, but I think I might switch out the willpower for manifest evntually

@cyan vale (for future builds)

[novel goblet]

The lack of Space Hop is surprising

[covert juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/tomo-chan-tomo-chan-wa-onnanoko-tomo-chan-is-a-girl-トモちゃんは女の子-tomo-aizawa-gif-27418595

its in 2 of 3 builds

[novel goblet]

i might actually be blind

i didn't see it in the first one

[covert juniper]

toooook when can we team up

[novel goblet]

i would love to, but na servers make my brain hurt

takes me ten seconds to open a red box

[covert juniper]

ur in na servers?

[novel goblet]

im in eu

[covert juniper]

Ill just play whatever servers ur in

lag is lag

[novel goblet]

in that case, as soon as im able to

[covert juniper]

yay

[novel goblet]

though be warned, im definitely not the best at this game

[covert juniper]

youre not the best, you are the best!

whats ur kd this season?

[novel goblet]

2.85, though ive been playing support while random queuing since it's the quickest way to ace

ive got 231 civilians rescued

[covert juniper]

support?

https://tenor.com/view/kyoukai-no-kanata-nase-hiromi-ew-disgust-gif-11102640

[novel goblet]

i need ace as soon as possible 😞

[covert juniper]

I can get you ace in like one day

then we can compress 1v1!!

[novel goblet]

im going to be killed in cold blood 😭

[covert juniper]

no no no

we will use rocks only to make the fight more fair

[novel goblet]

that makes sense

it would stop gamma spam as well

[covert juniper]

ok ngl

might never be able to beat this

I could have had 17 if my teamate didnt have the last kill

I love this build

my new favorite build

[shrewd cairn]

How do you use ability manifest?

What kind of color do you prioritize? Do you keep stuff from your teammates ?

[covert juniper]

sooo

im not much of a team guy

I priotize reload cards, and beta healing cards

dmg cards are a meh

they are GREAT but take time to gather when reloads are more important imo

healing beta cards stays in inventory untill storm healing

but I reccomend not stacking cards, but instead holding multiple copys and upgrading them with spare lvl ups

[shrewd cairn]

Yeah with ability manifest, lvl 1 and 2 become much more worth while high level cards don’t get as much value as they already last longer than needed

[novel goblet]

dear god

[novel goblet]

i forgot mods for pc exist, and sat here for a good five seconds wondering wtf that rank was

[proven palm]

I was growing tired of the dodging

[novel goblet]

this is what ive been doing

it's such a stupid counter, but it works to well

it's why rapid deku is one of my favourite matchups

[proven palm]

Lol

One of my favorite teammates to have is ochacco

Because you just fly with that float

Combine that with acceleration and you become a bomber plane

[daring jay]

Might as well take them with you while you're at it

[meager trench]

That build seems really good

I’m jus holding out to use the double yellow cyber punk skin

I don’t have enough keys for both 😭😭😭

[novel goblet]

when afo releases

im sure that compress will unironically get more complaints than afo

[proven palm]

I'm sure any character that can chase will

You really aren't gonna escape anyone anymore

Especially if they use perception

[meager trench]

lol true

[novel goblet]

It's not the chasing that's the worrying part

It's the fact it grants Compress free-flight

He can infinitely sky camp with it

Only two others will be able to do that, and it won't be remotely as brutal with them (them being Rapidgo and Aizawa [and technically Asskiri, Asskendo and Assmight])

[proven palm]

Really?

[novel goblet]

Yes, you can test it yourself with two tech cards

[proven palm]

Well this may be troubling

[novel goblet]

Indeed

[proven palm]

Tech denki stocks about to rise

[novel goblet]

I can't even be mad if I get Tech Denki snipped whilst doing it

[proven palm]

Lol

[torn herald]

I see Compresskind has picked up on the hidden art

[main orchid]

you support your team by killing everyone before they have a chance to harm your team

[novel goblet]

i meant to show this earlier, but does anyone have anything they would change about this list

It's kinda sloppily made, I'm thinking that the recommended tier should be split into two

[covert juniper]

mine

[novel goblet]

This one looks a lot better

There's just a few small things I kinda disagree with

If you don't mind me asking, how come muscle form is so high?

[torn herald]

I think.. (at least in my experience) it really helps when a lot of people are after you in a given moment, you can focus more on getting rid of direct threats instead of wasting gammas and finding a place to heal your hp after using PC.

Correct me if I'm wrong Duch, there could be an entirely different reason for that

[novel goblet]

That makes a lot of sense

Once I get enough data, I'll have to test it on the new Cyberpunk

[covert juniper]

I like it a lot because it kind of gets rid of compresses flaw on like blue toga beta and afo beta

[main orchid]

showed the silvers who is boss

[proven palm]

I wish beta reflection damage would stack upon each reflection

Makes compress tennis more fun

[drowsy lichen]

Are you crazy?

[proven palm]

No?

Not like multiple reflections usually happen to the same projectile

[novel goblet]

i wish it wouldn't have a delay when reflecting fast firing projectiles

it would be stupidly broken

but so funny

[drowsy lichen]

If only

Imagine reflecting Rapid might alpha

[novel goblet]

hawk's alpha too

[drowsy lichen]

Who's using Rapid hawks?

[novel goblet]

yeah that's fair

[proven palm]

Wait with yafo compress res might actually be dead

Because yafo special action disables the special actions of those hit by it

And its got range

And it goes through walls

[drowsy lichen]

Yep

But Compress can reflect a majority of his kit

[novel goblet]

yeah, it seems like another nejire situation

[drowsy lichen]

Not exactly

He has his beta

Idk of Compress Compress can block it

[novel goblet]

It can

I'm fairly sure I saw it in LFJ's vid

[covert juniper]

Compress almost has no counters if your good in this meta

It’s annoying

[novel goblet]

the only thing stopping me from wanting to continue ranked is randoms

i got queued with an expert ii and ametur ii player last time i tried

[novel goblet]

ive found a use for electrification but it's stupidly niche

[covert juniper]

What?

[covert juniper]

@novel goblet do you still have that footage of the TOD

[novel goblet]

I don't think I do

But it's something along the lines of: alpha until guardbreak, melee X2, cancel-gamma

you could maybe swap the second melee for an alpha

not sure whether that would be true though

[novel goblet]

air melee stuns the opponent if electrification is active

so if the grounded melee doesn't hit, or you just don't wanna spend time doing it, you can instantly gamma again

very stupid, but i tried it in a game of unranked and it was kinda ridiculously fun

[covert juniper]

I’ll try it then

[proven palm]

Never thought about the combo potential of gamma

[covert juniper]

It has the dmg of a truck in one hit

Actually more then a truck

I don’t think I’ve looked at the exact number

[daring jay]

I think it's in the 120-130s at max level

With 10 DP, so it can reset sometimes

It's pretty good if you can weave it in

[drowsy lichen]

I got enough data to use Space Hop

Made another build

Now I wait for AFO to release

[shrewd cairn]

The build is gonna go crazy

[drowsy lichen]

Now we wait

[novel goblet]

Seven hours until the storm

[jade pond]

Release the new AFO tuning so my compress build can be complete.

[shrewd cairn]

❤️

[daring jay]

The reckoning is coming.

[covert juniper]

No nerfs

https://tenor.com/view/tomo-chan-tomo-chan-wa-onnanoko-tomo-chan-is-a-girl-トモちゃんは女の子-tomo-aizawa-gif-27418595

[drowsy lichen]

Idk what made the devs think that the game is perfect in terms of balancing

WE NEED A BALANCE PATCH

[heavy kestrel]

hoorayy

[drowsy lichen]

This is peak

[heavy kestrel]

i got yafo in one 10x too, i feel so wonderous today

[drowsy lichen]

Nice

[main orchid]

we dont do that here

[drowsy lichen]

AFO tuning is peak
Infinite alpha for 10 seconds

[proven palm]

How's the beta vs yafo?

[drowsy lichen]

Compress wins the matchup

[proven palm]

Can ya somehow deflect the meteors?

Or absorb

[grand pumice]

Can you pls show your tuning build??

[novel goblet]

you can absorb them

im pretty sure

or at least nullify damage

[proven palm]

It seems finicky

[novel goblet]

I hope that if a Compress QSS ever gets made

It's more unique than his current kit

Because I do get kinda bored of just Alpha spamming

[undone zodiac]

Dm for his tuning 🙂

[novel goblet]

Is it really that much of a secret? Lmao

[undone zodiac]

Idk why?

[novel goblet]

It's just strange that you're requesting a dm for it

[undone zodiac]

Idk if I can drop it here 😭

[novel goblet]

I mean, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to

[undone zodiac]

Okay ty

[novel goblet]

Interesting

If you don't mind me asking, what rank are you

[undone zodiac]

Yeah I have another tuning for a full support tuning

[undone zodiac]

Ace top 50 why?

[novel goblet]

Nevermind, that's actually pretty insane

That costume isn't really known for being too good

It's not bad or anything, but there's definitely better ones

[undone zodiac]

Ohh why did you thought that it was bad tho?

[novel goblet]

I just assume most costumes without Space Hop to be not the greatest for Compress

[undone zodiac]

There is but Im a more of a aggresive compress and with that I can be aggresive but also supportive

[undone zodiac]

I see I think it's a preference for most people

[undone zodiac]

This was my tuning before and I tried space hop but I didn't like it since I love helping civilians and then drinking asap

[novel goblet]

I only bother with civilians when I'm actively trying to rank up

Since support points are an easy way to do it

Though once I hit Ace, I just can't rely on my randoms enough

Space Hop helps with aiming Compress' Alpha, since it naturally falls downwards

[hazy junco]

HOLY-

[meager trench]

Is his double yellow skin the best with the new AFO tuning? Or is it still the purple yellow it’s crit perm and space hop?

Crit perm just seems so good still

[fresh bough]

I mean this one is pretty nice

Double reload potential

[covert juniper]

Hmm depends on what u mean the best is

Like dmg

Utility

Speed

reloads

[meager trench]

Like the tunings really

[covert juniper]

Yeah, what tunings are you looking for. Dmg, speed, survivability, or reload

[novel goblet]

I find it weird when people complain about Compress' stunlock

[heavy kestrel]

Everyone who doesn’t like compress does lol

[novel goblet]

i just find it an extremely rare occurrence

i can probably count the amount of times ive both been and achieved his stunlock (on a competent player) on my hands

yet most people i see talk about it like it's a common occurrence

[covert juniper]

I disagree with you on this

I feel when Im using him it’s hard not to stun lock

atm I use more rocks then trucks so my opinion might be different

But his stun is op, buts it’s the main part of his kit

[heavy kestrel]

Not really imo, I’m always hitting it often

[covert juniper]

One jump melee on my opponent and it’s guaranteed they have nothing or are dead

[novel goblet]

it's the complete opposite for me

im decent at aiming, but i can only hit the marble when im using aim assist

which messes up his kit quite a bit when it's active

[covert juniper]

oh, I’m pc so it’s a lil different

[novel goblet]

that makes sense

[covert juniper]

I’ve hand crafted his stun for 9 seasons after all!!

[novel goblet]

one day, i dream that they add m&k support for console

[covert juniper]

That would be fun

I actually had a fun compress customs earlier(all compresses) and I found that many other compresses play similar to how you describe

they rely much more on the large dmg and aoe rather than the stun which is much stronger then pure dmg

[main orchid]

stun on hp when

[novel goblet]

it doesn't help that if i hit the stun without aiming in, they seem to get jolted in a random direction

[novel goblet]

one more gamma too please

[main orchid]

i love landing the long range stuns where you have to predict where theyre going

compress alpha clicks nicely for me since im already used to leading shots with assault ochaco

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-uma-musume-anime-cinderella-grey-gif-5241121930609346212

close range it feels a bit wonky yet but thats just because of the aim assist

[covert juniper]

Compress melee is my favorite part tho, that’s why I run melee tunings like perception, iron fist, and acceleration

[covert juniper]

Yes, I try to not use scoped in alphas too much unless I’m predicting the drop off using gravity

[novel goblet]

i just wish his melees were better

i find it extremely rare that im able to get close enough to actually utilise it

his grounded melee is extremely slow

[covert juniper]

You don’t think they are good?

[novel goblet]

I think they have potential with cancelling, but at face value they're kinda bad

[main orchid]

can i ask for your help actually, how do you fight rapid bakugos? ive been seeing a lot of them and theyre just so darn hard to hit

[covert juniper]

It’s one of the reasons I picked him up, I thought his melees were much faster then others like todo, bakugo, and deku

[torn herald]

My thoughts as well

Several seasons of playing have unfortunately proved that wrong though.

[novel goblet]

I could be wrong, but I think his basic melee1-melee1 combo is untrue

[covert juniper]

You have to stun him on gamma, and predict his vertical movement on beta and sa

[main orchid]

i see

[novel goblet]

I used to do the melee cancel loop, until i realised it was untrue, then I tried the basic melee loop, and people were also breaking out of that

[covert juniper]

I rely much more on hitting him on gamma tho

[heavy kestrel]

Omg oguri

[main orchid]

i figured gamma would be best. ill try to bait that

[main orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-umamusume-uma-musume-picmix-umamusume-picmix-cinderella-grey-gif-14218252221909647587

[heavy kestrel]

My gluttony horse

[covert juniper]

It is untrue, but if you catch their dodge it’s still pretty consistent

[heavy kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-gif-6391570776804116348

[novel goblet]

Honestly, I would love an Alpha nerf if we got some sort of melee buff

It would make his kit a lot more versatile and fun

[covert juniper]

These are my nerfs and buffs

1 gamma, less dmg on alpha, trucks at 9, less reload speed on alpha, 6-7 alphas

Buffs: less knockdown on melee, less knockdown on gamma

[novel goblet]

Somewhat similar to mine

But yours are a lot more brutal towards his alpha

[torn herald]

Is it me or are Boulder marbles more consistent than Truck Marbles?

I say this as I still exist on switch, might be an fps issue

[covert juniper]

It’s more imo because the trucks are much larger. I feel it’s easier to spot the enemies with rocks

[main orchid]

i might start rocking boulders tbh, gamma 9 is so hard to get unless youre slaying early game

[covert juniper]

Rocks also have the same gravity variables, so learning how to hit the rocks every time help to hit truck stun consistently

[torn herald]

Noted, I'll look a bit more into that

[covert juniper]

@novel goblet we never 1v1’d!!

You better be available tmr!!

[marsh storm]

on hp as well? I dunno too much bout compress but for dabi 1 1 1 1 2 is true on hp but easily broken out of vs gp afaik

[covert juniper]

I think I’ve tested it, it’s not “true” but if you expect the enemies dodge you can just melee again anyway

[marsh storm]

hmmm, interesting, it looks to me like it would likely be true but dunno
https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/OlaljW

they might barely have time for the roll

[covert juniper]

Ohh dash melees

[marsh storm]

yup

[covert juniper]

I was thinking of mostly no movement m1’s

Yes dash melees are mostly true

[marsh storm]

dunno if dash is necessary but movement input is for sure necessary to reset melee chain faster

[marsh storm]

oh yeah then no, this only works with movement active, else you get m2 when doing it at this speed

[marsh storm]

gotcha

[novel goblet]

Ah

Not so great news

I won't be able to play for a while 🫠

But once I'm able to again

My first priority is that 1v1

(why is that message separate to the rest)

[covert juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/tomo-chan-tomo-chan-wa-onnanoko-tomo-chan-is-a-girl-トモちゃんは女の子-tomo-aizawa-gif-27418595

[rapid verge]

does compress need skill or have combos or is he just spam???

[covert juniper]

depends

I dont think he needs skill

like if you just want to use alpha as pure dmg then of course he is no skill

if use his combos or stun lock then I'd say he takes somewhere in the mid range of skill

but no where up there like aizawa or toga

"skill" is a lackluster term that differs person to person

compress atm is just spam, but for me to have fun I go much more on melees and stun lock attacks with alpha lvl4-6

[heavy kestrel]

Tm opera

https://tenor.com/view/tm-opera-o-umamusume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-tm-opera-gif-17755027566761646613

[main orchid]

its fair and balanced

[covert juniper]

We should do a all compresses custom! I mean I would prob win but it would be so fun

[heavy kestrel]

The mod looks really good

[main orchid]

compress customs but we only level beta and play ping pong

[novel goblet]

He should've just rolled

[spiral granite]

Improvements?

[covert juniper]

• I think accel is much better then revenge strike

Because melees are so easy and common

[spiral granite]

Is this for compress solely?

[covert juniper]

Yes

Perception could be higher

[heavy kestrel]

Imo i personally don’t find it hard to hit a melee since i usually hit a couple often so i wouldn’t really say it’s rare unless you’re not trying to put the effort to incorporate a melee while playing

[spiral granite]

I see,ty u two I’ll make your improvs in a sec

[torn herald]

I agree w/ this, I've found it easier to land melees; especially after the change to global aerial movement this season.

[drowsy storm]

Air melee is too free this season

But honestly I don’t go for them

I just hit you a with marble so I can avoid the down power

Maybe that would change if I had acceleration

[covert juniper]

i would reccomend using your air melee as a stun starter, to use both tunings and it keeps them airborne for combos

[main orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/codymoc-paradise-ratman-goblin-lands-goblin-gif-16555912413504154777

mr compress

[novel goblet]

compress nerfs

[hoary ether]

FINALLY COMPRESS NERFS

[novel goblet]

I'm assuming that "Opponents hit by falling debris are knocked back more easily." is meant to be a DP nerf

[shrewd cairn]

Yeah less damage and more down power

It's been fun guys

[novel goblet]

I would've preferred a gamma/hp nerf

But this is fine

[covert juniper]

Yes!!!

[covert juniper]

Just like I wanted

I hope it does like 70 dmg per alpha

[novel goblet]

In total? Or just the object

[covert juniper]

In total!

[novel goblet]

Ouch that's brutal

[covert juniper]

I want it to be a really big nerf

[novel goblet]

Give him the Hawks treatment

Let no one ever complain about him again

[drowsy lichen]

Fake

[main orchid]

i think 80 would be a sweet spot

just so its close to other beamers

but this change will be good

its felt so unfair playing him this season 😭

[drowsy lichen]

I will still be trucking ppl

Believe it

[heavy kestrel]

Ngl I’m not minding this nerf

From how quick guard breaks happen

[torn herald]

Oh they actually listened to us for once

[covert juniper]

Wish the nerf was more suvere

[torn herald]

I'll wait to see how impactful this upcoming nerf is before I say anything else

But HOPEFULLY it'll make him enjoyable to play again

[covert juniper]

@novel goblet when!!!

https://tenor.com/view/tomo-chan-tomo-chan-wa-onnanoko-tomo-chan-is-a-girl-トモちゃんは女の子-tomo-aizawa-gif-27418595

[jade pond]

as long as the Compress nerfs get the frauds who picked up this season, jump off

thats a w in my books

[heavy kestrel]

speaking of frauds i hate people who only play a character because theyre busted

ive seen it happen so much

[main orchid]

i started him this season, but thats mostly because my main hasnt felt very fun for me recently

he is a nice breath of fresh air, and i will definitely continue to play him even with nerfs

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-agnes-digital-agunesu-dezitaru-dezitan-kawaii-gif-23304053

[heavy kestrel]

i actually picked compress back up this season since i havent played him for a couple seasons

im enjoying his character a whole lot more

https://tenor.com/view/horse-silly-tongue-horse-tongue-horse-silly-gif-11018268193256850941

[main orchid]

the silly

it has been really odd seeing more than 1 compress per lobby

[heavy kestrel]

I’ve been seeing at least 3 or 4 including me lately

[main orchid]

lot of matches last night there was 3-4

yep

[heavy kestrel]

Ysaaaa

[main orchid]

a lot of them are so bad too

like i absolutely dumpster them

[proven palm]

I used that exact same build

Except I changed to divine protection

[covert juniper]

Imo the better support option

[shrewd cairn]

I love Compress but I’m probably not good enough to play him post nerfs, he wasn’t my best performing character this season already…

[lime glen]

I came to do a mental health check on you all but it seems like you guys are doing great

[heavy kestrel]

I don’t even mind it at all, because it’s understandable🙏

[steady idol]

After they nerf my boy compress they going to drop his skill set.
Alpha will throw buildings.
Beta will be 360 shield to reflect attacks.
Gamma will allow you to shrink and move around

[shrewd cairn]

He’s gonna get a command grab with insane tracking that turn an opponent into a marble, one shotting them trust

[drowsy lichen]

Gonna be throwing bombs

[shrewd cairn]

That would be sick ngl

The radius on his current alpha is too small

Make it a huge bomb 👍

OfA Compress

[drowsy lichen]

He does throw bombs in OJ2

[novel goblet]

i incorporated this into a qss concept i made

[novel goblet]

i should be able to tomorrow

[shrewd cairn]

Nice

I think his OJ1 iteration was so hard to play for my small brain I didn't give his OJ2 version a shot

[covert juniper]

On Halloween day 💔

[novel goblet]

the scariest halloween yet

[covert juniper]

Have you ever taken place in a tourney before took?

[novel goblet]

I almost did

[covert juniper]

The Official one?

[novel goblet]

Definitely not that one

It was an eu one

I don't remember much about it though

[covert juniper]

Ah

[covert juniper]

Today’s the day

[novel goblet]

I (should be) ready whenever you are

[novel goblet]

Also, if you don't mind me asking, what timezone are you in

[covert juniper]

the only timezone

est

[novel goblet]

ah

im four hours ahead

[covert juniper]

oh

[covert juniper]

I’ll play after this round

i haven’t played at all today lol, so Don’t expect a expert

[novel goblet]

no worries, tyt

[covert juniper]

Im getting on

93129

[novel goblet]

ill be a second

That battle record is beautiful 😭

[covert juniper]

wait one second

Im debating

sry 5 mins!!!

[novel goblet]

nws lmaoo

[covert juniper]

sry were debating bakugou vrs reze

[novel goblet]

so who wins

[covert juniper]

hm its hard

bakugou is faster

reze has more hax with regeneration

bakugou has stronger durability

but who has a stronger explosion

almost done!!!

ready @novel goblet

[novel goblet]

good luck!

though ill probably need it more

[covert juniper]

alpha lvl 6

mark and accept to start

OMG its so laggy lol

[novel goblet]

i dont think im able to melee cancel on usa rip

acceleration on compress is NASTY 😭

[covert juniper]

Want to change to ur servers?

[novel goblet]

i dont think itd make too much of a different tbh

i think i might call it quits 😭

[covert juniper]

Whyyy

[novel goblet]

my frames are dropping a lot

[covert juniper]

You’ve been doing good at adapting to my melees

wait

Can we try on ur server?

[novel goblet]

we can

it might also be because im playing on old gen hardware

im not sure yet

i see why you're #1 now though

[covert juniper]

Send invite

[covert juniper]

I don’t hit melee cancel like you do tho

[novel goblet]

what levels are we using with alpha

[covert juniper]

My game crashed!

Coming back

[novel goblet]

ah

ive seen three people crash in training today

very strange

[covert juniper]

Rocks for now

[novel goblet]

i think it may be 100-1

[covert juniper]

Wanna do rocks?

[novel goblet]

it's up to you

[covert juniper]

2 more with trucks

Wait took

Get rid of my tuning

Kill me

Oh nvm

It stays

Oops my space hop ran out

Rocks now

[main orchid]

wow you guys sure are compressing!

[novel goblet]

@covert juniper gg, that was my last

[covert juniper]

Oh Alr

[novel goblet]

this felt more like a bullying session than a 1v1 😭

[covert juniper]

It took me a min to figure out how to go against your held beta space hop

Mid way through I realized instead of risking a alpha mistiming, I should jump air melee. I found I then could combo this with mid air alphas because it’s a fake knockdown

[novel goblet]

This is what you were doing

Was it not?

It's one of the reasons I swapped to Space Hop for the second half

[covert juniper]

Oh I don’t mean it’s a bad thing! Held beta space hop is an almost almighty defense

It’s just something I have to get used to fighting better

Like my way of playing, I focus on getting that one perfect stun. Once I get that stun I often win, but held beta space hop just makes it more difficult

Ur the only other compress I’ve ever 1v1’d tho

[novel goblet]

This was why I started beginning with my Beta

You also always use a Gamma after someone else does

Which helped me a little after realising

[covert juniper]

I really hate gamma fights, because I’m bad at hitting them. That’s why I usually don’t gamma unless it’s a combo lol

You prob saw that, I only was hitting air battles with trucks

Ground battles I’m more accurate with rocks

But your a great compress, that adapted to the fight pretty fast

And towards the end started winning a lot of them

[novel goblet]

It was fun, I'd be down to try again some other time

[drowsy lichen]

I like when they hit themselves

[covert juniper]

@vernal crystal In your newest video You talked about compress only doing 80 dmg, but in the current meta he can do 140 dmg with tunings. This is one of the main reasons hes getting nerfed

I think they should decrease this dmg to around 70 dmg per alpha, but keep stun

and lower hitboxes

[drowsy lichen]

I think they'll nerf the explosion damage

Or maybe the entire thing in general

[vernal crystal]

140 per truck? 🥀

[covert juniper]

yes, its the best tuning build for dmg atm I can find the build rq

This build with revenge strike allows 145 dmg without PU

With PU, I haven’t even tried

ofc space hop + accel is better for compress movement wise. But dmg wise this is THE build

[covert juniper]

Compress combos are so hard to fight against tho

Like one alpha stun means life or death

Or if I hit a air melee there’s so many combos to go into

[novel goblet]

i wonder if his cancel loop is true with acceleration

[novel goblet]

it is indeed true

i need acceleration so bad

[covert juniper]

it is? I honestly just dont use it often

[covert juniper]

Wow tested it in training

I could def see it being good

[drowsy lichen]

Yes it is

But with the down power nerf to his alpha it's kinda not worth it now imo

[covert juniper]

And + the down power being added tmr won’t help that

[covert juniper]

@novel goblet the day the changes are made YOU are testing them out before the sun rises

[covert juniper]

I was thinking of a niche use for electrification, ima try it

I thinl

think

the combo would be true, if I had acceleration

[empty thistle]

I’m actually glad that Compress is getting nerfed. Now we can play him and have to actually use our brains to win unlike right now.

[covert juniper]

true

theres 2 fits where I can test this combo

a pur on sweater and a base compress skin tuning

[empty thistle]

Right? Like we will actually need to use a shred of skill to play him moving forward. Right now he is easy and braindead, I welcome this challenge! Plus Chaos!!

[heavy kestrel]

Honestly me too, I like it when I have to put effort in gameplay instead of having no skill at all

[covert juniper]

@novel goblet I’ve made a breakthrough on compress dmg

I’ve gotten past the 200 dmg range on one alpha

205

it could do 248.5 in theory tho

with embrit and 2 strike teamates

one step for mhur, one giant leap for compress kind

[novel goblet]

Is this with PU intensified?

It's still insane either way

[covert juniper]

Yes, I only discovered the imense dmg from the tuning recently

It 3 shots mirio atm

could 2 shot him with 2 strike teamates and embrit

[novel goblet]

This is so stupid 😭

The damage nerfs were understandable

[covert juniper]

WE need buffs

the build does 130 without strike cards

with, it does 150 per alpha

[novel goblet]

Is this build with his heat sweater

[covert juniper]

Great reload speeds too

[novel goblet]

Ah

[novel goblet]

The only use I've seen for it is air melee-gamma

[covert juniper]

I saw that, but it didnt seem to be true sadly

[novel goblet]

Out of curiosity, what were you thinking for it

[covert juniper]

Wdym?

[novel goblet]

You said you were thinking of a niche use for it

[covert juniper]

I was thinking alpha till guard break, melee ground, alpha gamma. TOD

It does work

But it’s not true

Maybe with melee cancel tho

[novel goblet]

Does the combo not break before gamma?

[covert juniper]

No, you just can’t hit both the projectile + marble

Hit only marble

Then gamma

But it’s untrue

I think if you time it with accel maybe it’s true

I just couldn’t get the timing

[novel goblet]

Ah

[daring jay]

NGL I think the opposite is true

Nerfs are good but I just don't think these are the right ones to make him more skillful

Gamma is a way bigger problem to me, I'm never in danger when I have a gamma ready and you have it ready so often in fights that a hit and run playstyle is often encouraged

DP changes probably kill a lot of his combo setup which I think is a double edged sword for that argument

[shrewd cairn]

Yeah honestly I don’t see how nerfing damage and DP will make him more skill intensive.
You will deal less damage, and you won’t combo as much (which was part of skill expression, hitting the marble)
Reducing the explosion radius would have made him more aim intensive.
This just makes him weaker but still just as easy.

No gamma changes meaning you’re still super free to do whatever

The nerf is still good and better than nothing

Compress was one of those characters your entire team could fold to in late game if you didn’t have the right character

With reduced damage this shouldn’t happen anymore

I think the marble should not have a DP increase, but the explosion should.

That would make him more interesting

But it makes no sense that the marble is that much stronger than the truck itself lol

Or maybe the answer is to remove truck and have him stuck with rocks

I think both Compress and Ochako would be fairer if they didn’t get their lvl 7 upgrade

[novel goblet]

Byking does this a lot

Like when Monoma got his HP nerf

[latent tree]

I think they should hace gone with one of the nerfs not both of them

[covert juniper]

I don’t think the nerfs were enough

I feel like the only nerf we are gonna see is the down power nerf

[covert juniper]

someone should test the dmg of revenge strike and pu power entensified on this build

becasue 50% buff and 10% buff might be crazy

Im gonna calculate dmg numbers here for later

72 marble dmg

29 aoe dmg

but what does 67 dmg?!?

[main orchid]

67...

[covert juniper]

ok my game was actually falling apart so Im going to figure these numbers out

so it does 29 when you hit the outside of the aoe

but if you hit both versions of truck, which is truck + aoe it does 96

Im dum

gamma is 124

wait no

gamma dmg changes?!?

it can do 119 or 124

dont know what cause it

116 dmg for both parts of alpha

87 for marble

81 for truck

35 for aoe

144 and 150 for the marble

ill try this with embrit now

with strike cards

96 marble dmg

127 for truck + aoe

89 for truck

38 for aoe

159 for gamma

166 for gamma as well

without strike cards

80 for marble

74 for truck

106 for aoe + truck

32 for aoe

now lets compare that to peak compress

(from what Ive seen highest dmg compress build)

without strike cards

85 marble dmg

113 for truck + aoe

79 for truck

34 for aoe

128 for gamma

also 134

With strike cards

103 with marble

137 for aoe + truck

96 for truck

41 for aoe

162 and 155 for gamma

ok I was wrong about pu dmg numbers before, these are higher

these are max dmg(pu entensify + strike cards)

truck + aoe is 216

marble is 162

151 for truck

54 for aoe

https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/lr73itr925ATTUXx5?invite=cr-MSwya2gsMzU1MzIzNzY0&v=30

these numbers fluxurate on hp, because of gp attack power from assault endeavor

these dmg numbers are easily possible in game btw

Just save level 5-6 strike cards for pu

these numbers could be much higher with embrit

@novel goblet get on!!

[novel goblet]

these past messages make you sound like you're going insane 😭

[covert juniper]

Im just keeping these for noted before compress is nerfed!!

[novel goblet]

That makes sense

[novel goblet]

Don't quote me on this

But with two Strike teammates + Embrittlement

I believe all values would hit for 261.072

[covert juniper]

I think so too

so Im about to test it

[covert juniper]

ok @novel goblet I got footage of the numbers for strike team + embrit

257 dmg per alpha

[novel goblet]

i actually think id go insane if i got two shot by a compress

i honestly don't know what to say, other than that's ridiculous 😭

[covert juniper]

I think I can go higher...

[novel goblet]

i refuse to believe this

[covert juniper]

we are about to see

Ok the buffs Im gonna use are

PU entensify, Fixer, embrit, 2 dmg cards, 2 strikes, strike shiggy sa, and uhh what else

[novel goblet]

does shiggy sa stack with embritlement?

i always assumed it was the same thing

[covert juniper]

hmm Maybe not

becasue Im not seing more then 257

[main orchid]

noooo

they patched that then

because it used to stack

[covert juniper]

ok @novel goblet From what Im seing the highes compress alpha dmg is from relfecting it from a beta

but that is hard to caluclate

[novel goblet]

289.17

Hold on

Have you thought about using his Hero Cyberpunk

It can run PU Intensified + Revenge Strike

I might've gotten something wrong, but I calculated 289.17 possible damage per alpha with it

[covert juniper]

hmm

would that be higher then fixer?

[novel goblet]

Let me work it out

[covert juniper]

I dont think it would be higher, because 9.6 + 96 wont go higher then 112 from fixer

[novel goblet]

yeah i think i did something horrifically wrong whilst trying to work that out

Fixer gives a 1.172x boost

Revenge Strike + tuning gives 1.17

[covert juniper]

and the base tuning... I dont think ur gonna get much dmg buffs from it

[novel goblet]

The basic tuning on that outfit sucks so badly ngl

[covert juniper]

ok we got to 291 dmg alpha in the stew of compress labs

[novel goblet]

i cant speak

how did you manage to get it even higher

[covert juniper]

We had to mess around with beta lol

[novel goblet]

ahhhh

[covert juniper]

The most raw dmg I think at the current moment is 257 dmg

That’s the world record set and confirmed by myself only

[novel goblet]

this entire thing has made me realise how good pu intensified probably is on compress

considering his survivability, and how much he thrives during the endgame

[drowsy lichen]

Yes it does

I think

It should cus shiggy SA does 20% defense down and embrittlement does 10% defense down.

So they should stack

[covert juniper]

It might? But it wasn’t really helping for some odd reason

I was still doing 257 dmg with him

It might be weird timing tho

[covert juniper]

Compress nerfs tn

[novel goblet]

tonight for you

9am for me

i have a feeling they're going to very minorly affect him

[covert juniper]

Same

[covert juniper]

@novel goblet give me some predictions of what the nerfs are gonna be

[covert juniper]

@novel goblet they uh nerfed compress

[drowsy lichen]

Yeah um

Alpha now has 100 down power

[covert juniper]

Yeah which means

You can only hit the alpha 2 and a half times before knockdown

[main orchid]

am i wrong to think this is a bit much

the damage nerf is totally justified

but that down power is insane

[drowsy lichen]

Yeah it's Alot

Only being able to land 3 alphas

[covert juniper]

I would be ok with it, if it had something like melee down power change

I think it will be fun still

But annoying how there’s no combo expression at all now

[torn herald]

Honestly I don't think this is as bad as I thought it would be-

Yup..

Now that I look at it, do y'all think the down power changes will change his team comps?
Ex. Teammates that can benefit off of reading wakeups will become more prominent w/ Compress now.

[covert juniper]

It’s honestly pretty bad, just because that means there’s no melee combos anymore. 2 1/2 alphas before knockdown

And even with tuning no gaurd breaks

[torn herald]

Unfortunate

[heavy kestrel]

oh wow

the down power