Tomura Shigaraki

[hot moss]

Haven't hopped on yet but sounds like the matchup isn't too bad then

[tired moth]

yeah

but its just tamaki has a really good kit

ability wise

and good combo potential

idk if i should pull for tamaki, like i got enough tickets

and even if i do pull him

idk if i will switch mains

rn im just saving tickets to pity shiggy skins

[hot moss]

Is that new skin a Rank Reward or nah?

[tired moth]

the new shiggy skin?

no i think its a skin you can get from an event

when the new gamemode drops

its called the new gamemode agency event or something liek that

[limpid patio]

the game rn is so laggy, loading times are taking like 5 minutes rn just to access the customizations or claim rewards lol

[tired moth]

does it feel laggy in game as well?

cause it does for me

i dont feel smooth anymore

Also im pretty sure the gamma bug is gone

[limpid patio]

in game its not too bad but trying to fight is so bad for me atleast

my gamma rarely connects atm, very rare that it does

hopefully thats just for tonight tho

[hot moss]

Ah, I see

[hot moss]

Yeah, it's laggy for a lot of people it seems, that's why I usually give it a day before playing.
I think it's just so many people being online make it lag

[limpid patio]

yea it is lol, theres 3.5k ppl on steam rn which is actually really high compared to normal

used to struggle getting even 2k

and im guessing other ports would be the same

[limpid patio]

shigaraki 2nd skill set was apparently found in the files

along with a bunch of stuff probably from alls justice

[jagged flame]

Tamaki's special tuning is good

[jagged flame]

Oh really?

[limpid patio]

yeah, usually a characters skill set just has "var01", someone found out that shigaraki now has that and var02

[jagged flame]

Cool

[hot moss]

If it's an actual Rapid skillset that'd be funny
Wouldn't need it though since nothing can beat Strike for me 💅

[jagged flame]

Nejire

[hot moss]

I mean nothing can beat playing him for me pff

[jagged flame]

But what if it's much cooler

Skill set

[hot moss]

Doubt it
If nothing else has scratched the same itch that Strike does for me so far, I doubt anything new will.

Even an actual Rapid Shiggy skillset, because his kit would have the mobility as a main, obvious part of his kit, instead of achieving it through tech. Far less satisfying and rewarding.

I like the complexity of tech

[limpid patio]

shigarakis beta hurts mirio when hes underground i think

[dark stump]

idk about recent seasons, but I know in Season 5 and 6 that if Mirio presses Beta while being hit, he will lose invincibility completely while he's in the ground, making him able to be hit by piecing moves like Strike Shiggy Beta, Strike Endeavor Gamma, Strike Bakugo Alpha, etc

[dark stump]

The Mirio in this clip pressed Beta while being hit by one of your Beta ticks, so there may not be any shadowchange

[hot moss]

Could test in Training

[limpid patio]

thats what that would probably be then

never happened to me before

[jagged flame]

Never saw that interaction before

[tired moth]

Ahh i'm at a stumble here

This is the first time they released a fun character taht actually kinda wanna main

apart from shiggy

but idk what to do

[hot moss]

You main him?
People can have more than one main pff

[jagged flame]

I mainly use Strike shiggy and AFO

[tired moth]

meh i like to commit to just one character

[hot moss]

I want to pick Tech Dabi up again, but now is not the time 😔

[tired moth]

also this game is so unplayble, i feel so laggy and i cant tell if other are lagging or cheating

[hot moss]

Yeah it's bad with the lag. No harm in just waiting a day or two

[honest fulcrum]

Someday grabs will be fixed 🥀

[tired moth]

yh im prettu sure the gamma bug is fixed

[limpid patio]

yeah i havent had it bug out for me

[tired moth]

Yh no matter what i will always stay truthful to shiggy

[honest fulcrum]

Not the worst bug tho

The grab not grabbing one

[tired moth]

are you talking about when you stun someone?

the one where you can just do a melee combo after?

That one is actually loevely

unless if your talking about the one that does the animation

that one is just annoying

[honest fulcrum]

It's annoying though

[tired moth]

i experienced it today

[honest fulcrum]

Like if the grab just hit the person properly they'd die

[tired moth]

cause i hit an assault kiri using alpha with hardening or something like that

[tired moth]

true

[hot moss]

I genuinely hope they don't fix gamma whiffing, it's fine because it's not really a hindrance if you're quick with reacting.

But having people drop out of it while the animation plays and leaves you getting blasted is definitely not good lol

[limpid patio]

Im fine with whiffing, I hate the one that doesn't grab but still plays the animation

I get killed doing that

[honest fulcrum]

What is the melee combo

[tired moth]

yh same

[tired moth]

just his normal melee combo m1 m2 m3

[honest fulcrum]

Not m1 m2 special action?

I thought that was a better combo

[tired moth]

you can do that as well

i just dont think of it in time

and just spam melee whenever i gamma whiff

theres other combos you can do as well which are even better

but again it just depends on whether you can react calmly

[jagged flame]

Yall might wanna use Tamaki's special tuning

It makes the skill cards last longer

[hot moss]

Nah, I'm good

[dark stump]

I think they make them last 60% longer at Level 11

[hot moss]

I don't use them often as it is
But when I do they last as much as I need em to anyway

[tired moth]

Idk why but I always pickup like 5 cards atleast level 2 but I still don’t use them 😭

It’s such a bad habit

Like I keep wanting to save them

And then I just forget about using them when I get in a fight

[tired moth]

That doesn’t sound bad but doesn’t your card have to atleast be like level 3 to get some use of out of it

[jagged flame]

I always use them

[hot moss]

Okay

Something is very different about gamma

First time actually labbing stuff today and already I can feel a difference

Okay so one thing is that the "grab the air and play out the animation while getting beamed down" bug is very much still a thing but it's been on command.
Like I can make it happen at will but idk why I'd ever want to.

Also just the way characters connect to the grab, it seems weird like they've tried to make the connection stronger? Or tried to change something to do with positioning/camera angling?
Idk but grabbed enemies flail about more.
I thiiink it's a camera angling thing going on?
Idk but that's like the main thing I've noticed.
Gamma feels different

[limpid patio]

yeah it felt different for me last season too, idk if this time is better or not tho, i need games to stop being laggy because my grabs rn are like rarely ever connecting, even trying to whiff doesnt work for me rn

but the times it has worked, it felt so weird

[hot moss]

Okay one thing I can say for certain

(Well at least judging by how it's working in Training)

Is that air melee no longer causes knockdown at all so air melee into grounded melee or gamma or whatever is always guaranteed

[jagged flame]

Oh really

[hot moss]

Wait nvm

[jagged flame]

💀

[hot moss]

My training mode was bugged

[marble spruce]

had me excited

[hot moss]

I mean it's still guaranteed on shield but it was working on fresh too when I tested

It still knocks on flesh. My game was just having a buggy moment

*flesh

[jaunty dragon]

🔥

need that

[jagged flame]

60% longer duration at level 11

[limpid patio]

i would use that if it worked on revenge cards lol, i rarely ever use my cards unless i panic

[jagged flame]

You mean strike cards?

[limpid patio]

nah the revenge rapid, revenge tech all those

the tuning ones

[jagged flame]

Oh

I wouldn't like that

Level 2 cards last for about 16 seconds with his tuning

[honest fulcrum]

I feel bad for strike shiggy mains

So. Many. Nejire

[limpid patio]

im fine with nejires i just want his gamma to connect

[limpid patio]

neither, but if it was a thing i'd probably go back to revenge rapid

[jagged flame]

I just want more special tunings that are good

[hot moss]

Where? I still barely see em

[honest fulcrum]

I see em all the time

Cuz of the teamup with tamaki i think

[hot moss]

Ohh maybe

[stiff lark]

it seems good for a no materail build

[tired moth]

For me the gamma has actually got better I think. I’m grabbing players more frequently and also grabbing people that I shouldn’t of been grabbing 🤣

I can show you a clip of what I mean later

But I also do get the grabbing the air animation bug more now as well

[tired moth]

Like a lot more

[hot moss]

Yikes
I've so far only had it happen in Training, I've yet to see how actual matches go

[tired moth]

Guys whats your best way to catch wakeup with shiggy. So like you knock them on the ground and then they recover what would the best move be?

[hot moss]

Smack

[limpid patio]

i usually gamma, theres probably other ways tho

[hot moss]

If they air recover either air melee or Special or both is what I do.
Tryna get better at it though

Best way to keep denying characters a chance to do anything is if you keep air smacking them down when they're on flesh

Easier said than done though of course

Depends on the enemy and how they move with recovery

[limpid patio]

something like this?

btw im never getting any whiffs, if i get lucky enough and the first hit actually connects, it just goes into a grab

[hot moss]

Hm

[jagged flame]

Ohh

Usually that would drop

[hot moss]

Idk how I feel about it
Since the normal whiffs are kind of a good thing
But eh, it's not awful

[limpid patio]

i want it reverted lol ngl

im not a fan at all with this

ill give it more time and see how i feel then

[hot moss]

Also is level 1 alpha longer range now? Or am I hallucinating

[jagged flame]

You are lol

[hot moss]

Mandela Effect gets me strong during Day 1 labbing
I start questioning if everything was always a certain way or not

[limpid patio]

i was thinking the same thing lol

[tired moth]

yh i guess, this is what i was talking about

Like idk how that happend 🤣

but i guess i was just lucky

But im all here for it

if you get hit with the grab your getting hit with THE GRAB

I'm also getting more air grabs

like when you do a gamma off the building and catch someone in the air

before it was only do like one hit

but now im getting the full grab animation

which is nice

Oh i think thats also why i'm not getting as many gamma whiffs as before

i actually dont mind that

[tired moth]

because this is so satisfying

[limpid patio]

oh yeah that would work more lol

thats pretty cool

[hot moss]

Sure wish I could see more than a black screen :')

[tired moth]

Oh what I didn’t even realise that

I’ll try send it later

Chat we may have been overthrown as the final circle kings

This ain’t my vid

But I’d just like to say I’m not mad at the player and the decisions they made

The choices they made like doing pu, going high up into the sky and using gamma

Are actually smart choices that I can respect

But I’m just mad at the tracking of that beta

Like if it wasn’t for that tracking, it could of been winnable for the shiggy

Like it’s a medium range mobility sweep attack that does good damage and gives invis and movement speed boost , why does it need that good level of tracking??

[limpid patio]

tamaki mixed with monoma is currently the meta in jp atm, they shred end circle with gamma spam

red shiggy is cooked

[hot moss]

Bruh
My wifi

[limpid patio]

huh

your msg sent lol

[hot moss]

It sent twice for me :')
I tried to delete one. Ut it got rid of em both

*but

[honest fulcrum]

Atleast compress can sometimes block it

With beta

But if they are above its useless

[vernal meadow]

does the tick speed on alpha feel any different to you guys on strike shiggy?

feels like it ticks faster now but it might just be some placebo effect im having

[hot moss]

Didn't feel different to me

[jaunty dragon]

did the weaken the uhhhhh

girth of level 1 -8

it feels skinnier

[jaunty dragon]

also nah tick damage speed is the same sadly

i do miss that old speed

[jagged flame]

I haven't used my main in 2 days

💀

[hot moss]

I barely use him in a week
(Cuz I barely play at all pff)

[jagged flame]

I think they fixed his gamma

Mostly

It only dropped once while I was landed it

[limpid patio]

usually this would whif but that guy got teleported

[jagged flame]

Yeah

Only took them 12 seasons

💀

[hot moss]

It's still got bugs here and there
But yeah they've made it more reliable for the most part

(Though some grabs fr should NOT be grabbing like in that vid pff)

[queen nest]

How should I be using assault shiggy

[limpid patio]

i mean thats true, but honestly with the ping disadvantage i have im sorta glad this works in my favour for once lol

[sullen magnet]

Hmmm

Fellow Shigaraki's

How do you feel about Spiral Jump on him?

I want to make something that will help him, but I don't want to spend my solo data

[hot moss]

Spiral Jump is very good on him
As is Space Hop
That's down to preference tho which you prefer

[sullen magnet]

Hmmm, fair enough

I may try and get space hop then

[limpid patio]

shigarakis blue costume coming out i THINK is a space hop build

theres a good amount of damage tunings for it too

[hot moss]

Yeah, I'll be looking into getting that outfit
-# I JUST finished my current build too 🥹

[wary willow]

Who up shiggin they raki rn?

[hot moss]

No matter how I answer that, it'll never sound right

[wary willow]

I still have the audio too

That one dude left his legacy in this server

[jagged flame]

Do the shiggy

Get shiggy

[hot moss]

Who?

[wary willow]

Dude who did the shigaraki impression and said that

[hot moss]

Uh. Okii

[jaunty dragon]

im....slightly glad i havent heard this legacy.

[jaunty dragon]

Hey guys, i need a refresher just incase im incorrect on this, but do you remember the damage values on Yellow Shiggy's Level 9 beta and alpha? maybe it's just that they had triple assault or revenge assault that's reducing my damage, i've actually found out that this wasn't a terrible person who i thought it was and they let me know that there's a visual bug with kirishima's hardening? but it's bothering me abit because none of my gamma/beta stuns worked at all either....has this happened to any of you!?!? , i could just be imagining things .

[hot moss]

Nah, you lost me at the toxic emoting there, bud.

[jaunty dragon]

i thought they were bug abusing but they said they weren't, but im also pretty sure a direct Level 9 beta hits at much more than 45

emoting aside i just need an answer to that

if you really can't thats fine too

[jaunty dragon]

OHHHHHHHHH

i know this.

[wary willow]

YES

[jaunty dragon]

ACTUALL

Y

[wary willow]

REMEMBR

[jaunty dragon]

THIS HAS BEEN IN MY HEAD FOR AWHILE

[wary willow]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YES

ALWAYS SHIGGI

[limpid patio]

Because you are fighting a kiri with hardening active

[sullen magnet]

That voice is so bad, that it's good 😭

[wary willow]

☠️ ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ ☠️

I mean everyone starts somewhere

[sullen magnet]

His voice is pretty easy in English dub, I tried it, and I think its accurate, I just can't keep the raspy while I talk

And I can't scream as Shigaraki, sounds like a choking chipmunk

[robust pulsar]

Man

Both my mains are mid now

😭

Well ac shig is on his climb up the tier list

[cerulean rain]

Direct beta does 75 without any boosts, gamma shockwave also does 75 without any boosts, alpha spread does 76 without any boosts

There's also 2 glitches with kiri hardening i'm just going to assume they didn't use cheats for what happened. One is just infinite hardening where the kiri has it active all game. The other is a desync glitch which has two versions, for both of them the kiri won't have hardening active on their end but on someone else's end it is active for them. One version is fully visual. Another version they don't take stagger and take halved damage from the person who sees hardening active when it isn't. The only way the kiri player would realize the desync one with hardening's effects is active is if they're constantly paying attention to just how much damage they're taking and the lack of stagger

[limpid patio]

nothing special, just thought it was pretty funny

[lusty nova]

1v2 In ranked but the opponents are a bit slow…

[hot moss]

Why do I keep getting a notif that something is being sent here when it's not?

[marble spruce]

i thought i was going crazy

[honest fulcrum]

Probably sent then deleted

[wary willow]

Oop

[vernal meadow]

are there any hidden JP videos showcasing yellow shiggy's combos

i wanna learn him but i don't really know what im doing

at least with specific combos, not sure how i should be trying to link everything

[hot moss]

They wouldn't be hidden if there are hehe

[vernal meadow]

there is one yellow shiggy demon

but i can't find their videos because they're all in japanese

so i can't search it up

[hot moss]

There's other Assault Shiggy Demons, some are in this server too who I'm sure can help ya
(I just suck at names so I can't ping em)

[jagged flame]

The devs messed up this season
https://fxtwitter.com/neginukidayo/status/1950123656589246770

たんしお (@neginukidayo)

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[honest fulcrum]

Didn't even use the same ability for each character 🥀🥀

[cerulean rain]

@vernal meadow here's some clips of stuff he can do. Gamma 1 > Gamma 2 > Gamma 1 > Gamma 2 is only reliable on shields with speed cards btw. Same thing with Gamma 1 > Gamma 2 > Beta. They're both decently free on flesh as long as you don't mess it up. The ToD kills almost the the entire cast as long as you're leveled and without max as you can see in the first clip it can still kill rapids

Also air combos can include collapse hand after a beta if you're close enough

You can also gamma 2 > melee if they're in range of it. Gamma 2 > alpha is also a thing but i personally prefer collapse hand or beta for either defense debuff or extensions. Basically whatever you think is a combo, probably is. Aerial collapse hand into grounded is also possible on grounded opponents but it's weird, that's not even an assault shig specific thing, that's just a shig thing. Collapse hand into gamma/beta is probably also possible for asssult shig with speed cards but i'm too lazy to get someone to join training mode for me to test that since the bots act like they have no latency making testing on them unreliable

[hot moss]

Grabbing these fiends out of gamma is a rare blessing
🥹

[wary willow]

Im so happy when he got downed

[honest fulcrum]

Gotta love a double gamma

[limpid patio]

this tamaki wouldn't leave me alone, trying to get levels but kept chasing

[tired moth]

How do you do the shiggy one?

[hot moss]

Just by Wall Running and pressing gamma?
Idk why you'd wanna tho

[hot moss]

Cull the squids!

[tired moth]

Cause you could potentially catch people in the air with gamma, instead of having to go all the way to the top on a flat surface to activate the gamma

Also Shiggy second quirkset is in the works! and is most likely the first character to get a second quirkset!!

This is huge!!!!!

And with a shiggy banner comes shiggy skins 🙏

[hot moss]

Maybe, Idk how effective that would be though

And I just want either a Steampunk or Pirate Shiggy skin 🥹

[jagged flame]

Need his new outfit with the cape

[cerulean rain]

Just be careful with talking about that here, mods have banned people for talking about leaks

[stiff lark]

what do you need help with

[limpid patio]

most likely be the alls justice skin, thats just what i think tho

[honest fulcrum]

Wonder if they'll do a mini version of his big form for a skin

[limpid patio]

I like the design but I don't want another overhaul situation 😭

[hot moss]

Wdym?

[dark stump]

Overhaul's PUR outfit being massive and can give away your position because of the arms n stuff

[hot moss]

Oh yeah true

[jagged flame]

Not everyday I get to do this

[honest fulcrum]

Anyone else get the primal urge to grab anybody who's in storm on strike shiggy

[jagged flame]

Primal urge?

That's natural behavior to me

[hot moss]

Should be natural behaviour for every Shiggy ☕

I've also gotten into a slight habit of grabbing someone on storm's edge to throw them out then keep smacking them every time they panic recover to try and get back into zone until they go Down.
Hard to do consistently of course but funny as heck to be gatekept by a Strike Shiggy who's just throwing hands.

[jagged flame]

Although they mostly fixed shiggy's gamma

[hot moss]

Mostly.
The air grabs are still annoying as ever

[jagged flame]

I kinda missed when it dropped to do melee combos

[hot moss]

It still does sometimes
But yeah not as often

[vernal meadow]

been having a lot of fun with this lately

gamma murder build

i don't usually run kota finder but i use it so i can get max gamma quickly without missing out on a4 and b4

but his choke does so much with it lmao

[limpid patio]

gamma doesnt work for his grab unless they fixed it?

[vernal meadow]

nah they fixed it a while ago

momo had the same issue for her gamma

but it works now

this build is literally just the if you get grabbed twice you lose game

its like how his UB worked in oj2 except way faster lol

[hot moss]

I don't even have damage as a major factor of care for my build yet I can still 2-shot 300hp fellas

[limpid patio]

i only use damage because the other things like reload or defense doesnt feel like it does a whole lot, could be wrong tho im not sure

[vernal meadow]

i like big numbers

everything else comes second unless i'm on mirio

i value reloads more on him

[hot moss]

Defense really doesn't do much
Reload is a little more noticeable but yeah they kinda just feel meh lol

[honest fulcrum]

Quick question

How exactly do you get kota first (consistently)on a character with no movement

Unless it's assault then maybe

[hot moss]

You don't lol

[limpid patio]

are us servers also overrun by shinso players?

[hot moss]

Yep

[vernal meadow]

i drop center and pray

if i have to fight for it i choke them as a warning

[honest fulcrum]

Probably not the best strategy imo

Early shiggy ain't spooky

[vernal meadow]

im on unranked it aint all that deep

and im goated

[honest fulcrum]

Oh alr

[limpid patio]

i forgot unranked was a thing holy

[honest fulcrum]

Dont even have the shiggy role /s

[vernal meadow]

i like my yellow name

[honest fulcrum]

Unranked is still sweaty tho for some reason

[limpid patio]

it doesnt have matchmaking

[hot moss]

It's way more sweaty

[honest fulcrum]

You'll keep it

[hot moss]

Ranked doesn't have matchmaking either lbr

[limpid patio]

atm it doesnt feel like it lol

not this season atleast

i get mixed teams, some are awful, some are the most sweaty

[hot moss]

For me it's every season.
It's rare I get matched with players of my own level or rank

I always get baby Ochacos or Dekus to babysit

[honest fulcrum]

Just play ranked atp 🥀🥀

[hot moss]

Do you have friends you could stack with?

[limpid patio]

only 1 i mainly play with

[hot moss]

Felt

[limpid patio]

so its not all that bad if we get a bad teammate but during solo queues it can get annoying

[hot moss]

Yeah
I usually solo queue so I'm used to having bad randoms but it's never fun. And even in Expert lobbies I still get the new players in a lobby full of Aces. I don't get the system.

[vernal meadow]

also for the record if im not running kota finder on this build im running crushing PU

https://tenor.com/view/yummy-tongue-flight-flight-reacts-excited-gif-17057509

[hot moss]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-drink-sip-blink-the-mandalorian-gif-15693643

[jagged flame]

Use Ability Manifest for fun

I've been using it and I've seen ppl saying it's terrible which it isn't

Came in clutch for me multiple times

[limpid patio]

it looks good, i just never activate my cards

[dark stump]

Wall Run jumps

[honest fulcrum]

gng what

[dark stump]

It can turn you into a rapid and you zoom across the map

[honest fulcrum]

and are you actually number 1

[dark stump]

Nah that part is just for "If you have any questions you can ask me"

[honest fulcrum]

oh alr

[honest fulcrum]

huh?

is this some movement tech i dont know?

[dark stump]

I can find the mini guide

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1144085384310034532/1326637929019215882/video-output-0BA32418-154A-4E5D-B21D-1F15F0E5D895.mov

All of this applies to Wall Run in general

Wall Run was changed this season tho, so unfortunately everything from 0:42 onwards is inaccurate

But yeah you can get good distance with Wall Run jumps, and it can be enough for you to get Kota if you really master Wall Run

[limpid patio]

actually cant play him anymore lol

[hot moss]

That doesn't make getting Kota consistently any easier pff

Especially if it's USJ-

[hot moss]

They'll fix that bug next patch...
-# they won't

[vernal meadow]

they should make shiggy’s air special action spike/knock people downwards

so if you land a grab, land a meaty air special action on GP you can possibly combo into another grab

[jagged flame]

Well you should

[hollow salmon]

yo did they fix red shiggy gamma?

or is it still bugged

[vernal meadow]

i don’t think it’ll ever be 100% fixed honestly

they fix one thing and bug somethin else on it

but i think the grab has been connecting slightly better than before

but there are times where the full grab animation will play but the opponent wasn’t caught

so ur just stuck in that animation until its over

that’s only happened to me like twice and i can’t say for sure what the cause is

the only thing that really bothers me with gamma is when the initial hitbox goes away and he’s literally just running into or through an enemy

he can still do the grab part but you have to hope they didn’t go airborne

gamma is weird

[hollow salmon]

the only thing i want is

that holding gamma doesnt cancel

[tired moth]

yes that is fixed

however the catching the air bug is now more prominent

[dark stump]

Yeah, before the bug where your whole animation plays out without anyone in your grab would happen if you grab something while they're invincible
Now it will trigger sometimes when a regular Gamma whiff happens (they take GP damage but don't get grabbed). I once lost a 2v1 because of it 😔

[hot moss]

They just can't stop breaking our boy

[jagged flame]

I haven't experienced it this season

[honest fulcrum]

Why are grabs and pulls so broken

Tired of just kicking people with dabi

I want hugs

[vernal meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-does-he-know-faded-gif-11697106329231392146

it just tickles them

[limpid patio]

yes, im not the only one 😭

did that to a kiri yesterday

[jagged flame]

I haven't experienced this

All my grabs work this season

[marble spruce]

uhhhhh this was clearly because mirio permeated hes just being lore accurate

[limpid patio]

its very stupid, you will make contact with someone but it just pushes you away and doesnt connect

i have no idea why it happens tho

[sullen magnet]

How's this?

[robust pulsar]

Smartest ochaco player istg

[hollow salmon]

oh nice

thats good to hear

now i can start playing him again

even tho its still bugged

if i can use the gamma at least for movement im fine

[sullen magnet]

I wish she attacked anything other then Alpha, that was depressing of a fight, even for me

[robust pulsar]

As a hawks main the held in alpha if the bane of me

He's done a 180 to hit me before

Like mid appha

Alpha

It's ridiculous

[languid seal]

Shigi tips

First don’t try to hit people derectly unless they are in a small space

If it’s a large space out your alpha both sides of the person

So either way they roll they’ll land

2nd beta 2 things

Beta cancel

If your in a horrid place and you need fast movement

Beta right before you hit the ground

Gamma

Therefor canceling the animation

And a quick escape

Next tip for tuning

[hot moss]

I mean yeah, they are definitely good tips.
Though most active people in this chat are aware of things like beta cancellation by now.

[limpid patio]

kinda surprised me that alot of people didnt know about beta cancel, was definitely one of the first things i found out just playing the character and using his skills to see what he was like

[hot moss]

Same
Something you kinda just figure out by accident

[limpid patio]

yes. nice

[jagged flame]

💀

[honest fulcrum]

Dam

[hot moss]

On the Toga's end would she have just seen you grab her then die immediately? Because lowkey that'd be funny

[limpid patio]

i hope so

usually people take ages to leave tho

[limpid patio]

I don't remember this but uh yeah, ig this guy just let his imagination go wild

[jagged flame]

I don't get it

[limpid patio]

Oh wait wrong chat mb

[dark stump]

Hamburger

[hot moss]

Brickburger

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/saturday-shigaraki-my-hero-academia-mha-gif-2815349654891493537

[limpid patio]

Sunday for me 😭

[quartz kestrel]

The game is doing everything to not let the grab work

[jagged flame]

https://streamable.com/u9f3y2

Well this was cool

https://streamable.com/vb9bhf

Started evolving in this match
https://streamable.com/zp5s4c

Toga kinda ruined it though

[hot moss]

Map jumpscare!

[jagged flame]

Yeah I have long fingers and that happens alot

[hot moss]

Same 😔

[dark stump]

https://tenor.com/view/shigaraki-tomura-shigaraki-shigaraki-sunday-mha-my-hero-academia-gif-8972773641629765631

[jagged flame]

Now it's Monday

[limpid patio]

Exactly

[jagged flame]

Almost win this match, I had to fight Suneater in final zone

[tired moth]

it is a sad season to be a shiggy main

feels like everyone can counter him

And you just cant gamma people without getting melted by the rest

or knocked out of your gamma

[robust pulsar]

First game back on him

[hot moss]

Really?
I think he's doing just fine
Just the air grab bug that's annoying

[jagged flame]

Yeah

It happened to me twice yesterday

I got beamed by rapid all might because of it

[tired moth]

idk man feels like every time i try grab someone i just get meleted by the other people or they can just easily knock me out of gamma

[umbral stream]

What is your lvl up order

[hot moss]

Maybe try not to use gamma offensively so much this season if you can help it?

[jagged flame]

A7, B9, A9, G9

[umbral stream]

Why a7

[jagged flame]

Alpha gets more range at level 7

[honest fulcrum]

Strike dabi: welcome to the club

[umbral stream]

I see

[cerulean rain]

It doesn't, alpha only has range increases at 4 and 9. It's beta that has a range increase at 7

[jagged flame]

Oh yeah

[cerulean rain]

Beta's just weird with it's level increases range up for levels 3, 4, 5, 7 and 9 lol

[umbral stream]

So what’s the best lvl up order for strike

[cerulean rain]

I hardly play him at this point, someone else can give a better answer for that

[umbral stream]

And what’s some good strike shigraki tips to become comp

[limpid patio]

I always thought that was just me trippin and it was all just visual change, with level 4 7 and 9 having range increases

Didnt really pay attention to 3 4 or 5 since its still a little weak but that's still good to know

[robust pulsar]

Have a route for early looting

[umbral stream]

You got a route for all three maps

[robust pulsar]

I’m a hawks main but I used to be a shig so I’ll give u my old ones, Usj you start on top of the buildings on typhoon which can spawn a gold box pick up any cards up on those buildings then drop to the middle open box etc etc head to the allyway where the gold box spawns pick up any box on the way there then head for the exit to bridge

[umbral stream]

Alr bet lol

[robust pulsar]

U.A spawn top of shopping and go to the room to the left 2 boxes and sometimes one gold box spawn if someone is taking the gold box bellow grief them with a gamma then go into the the little shop there can be up to 2 gold boxes in there and just make your way down looting as u go

Chaos city I don’t have the best but I drop the place next to canyon or whatever it’s called the big mansion place loot the first floor then go into the hole loot then go into the opening to canyon

There ya go!

[umbral stream]

Thanks alot

[robust pulsar]

No worries!

[umbral stream]

Hawks tips?

[robust pulsar]

I’ll write a paragraph tmr it’s 4am I gotta sleep 😭

[umbral stream]

Ok

Send it in DMs

[robust pulsar]

Oki doki

[unreal halo]

Remember to get your teammates to target nejires and monomas

Dead nejires is top priority

[unreal halo]

Red shigi can most of the time survive because of his beta but you always need damage

best level up is A 4, B 7 you get decent damage and your beta can secure you a building

then A to 9 and B to 9

[hot moss]

24 hours and all has been silent
Did Endeavour break everyone?

[marble spruce]

hes breaking games from what ive heard

lots of people complaining about frame drops when he uses abilities

[jagged flame]

Well I wasted 1500 tickets and didn't get him

[limpid patio]

Im officially cooked this season. His beta is also bugged like tamakis, you can knock him back or stun him but his beta will still activate anyway

[dark stump]

it's about time for you to give into the Space Hop

I just jump over all of their Beta attempts and move around his Alpha in the air

[honest fulcrum]

Strike shiggy mains now have another annoying matchup

Not only because of assault Endeavor beta being inconvenient

But because his main strategy is to fly above with special action and rain stuff down

[jagged flame]

We knows

We knows

That isn't gonna demotivate me from using my main

[honest fulcrum]

Endeavor also stole his dot flow with his alpha

Unless there's other moves that have dot that idk about

[velvet lance]

someone might tell me a shigaraki combo

[hot moss]

Nah, I'd smack

[marble spruce]

dark souls gameplay

[jagged flame]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-elden-ring-dark-souls-gif-25429762

[limpid patio]

Nice lol. I have a clip recorded of the first match I played when endeavour came out and there were monomas spamming his fire dome and tornado end circle, there was not much you could do about it. Alot of matches are like that now 😭

[jagged flame]

You gotta use Space Hop

It's too good not to use it imo

[limpid patio]

Yeah I was thinking of doing that ngl

[lavish ether]

Hmm, realised i never bothered to check with any other Red shigi players
Did anyone else find that Red Shigi's Beta Gamma Melee stun combo was pretty much removed, i dont remember if it was start of this season or last season, these days you can only do the primitive version which is less consistant

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256679541922074647/1377604460171366400/Gamma_Melee.mp4?ex=68968361&is=689531e1&hm=90a62bf307c97e586f831cbbcb0a2050ebf1a2c3f41c27df2609c14b77836cdd&

Old clip of it, mind you i dont think Many red shigi mains even learnt this combo to beta hold

[lusty nova]

Woah the single SpecialAction neat

[lavish ether]

was fun times, back when you had to use the Beta as a 2nd Special action for vertical movement

[lusty nova]

I played a bit back than but not enough to remember it clearly (I played 3 games back then💔)

[lavish ether]

i played him before his alpha could go up walls, though i miss those days, his dmg was so much more back then

32-33 a tick at lv 9, with the right tuning you can get 31 but tbf, its good the og dmg isnt here with duning, else a single alpha could do about 160-170dmg with the right set up

You can still do a similar version of the combo but its rare to proc as the Gamma acts different now from testing

Or you just do it without using the Gamma to attack, but timing for that version is hard, still just as deadly, but hard

[merry jasper]

Reviving on bros body for the extra disrespect 🔥

[lavish ether]

was purely to bait the Deku in which worked like a charm, as that Deku kept running every time i would try fight him

[topaz turret]

So here's where all the main shigaraki are

[inland valve]

Any advice fr a noob

[terse pelican]

So, did they increase his grab hitbox because jesus i keep hitting grabs that would not land at all back then

Like, grabbing airborn people whose feet are on your head of height

Like, if they get grazed by the non true damage hitbox it seems it grabs now

[hot moss]

Yep, doesn't work anymore.
You're right not too many knew of it anyway, but those of us who did are very unhappy that they messed up the whiffing of the gamma which allowed that to work so satisfyingly.

That being said there's still other ways to combo so it's not a complete loss but now I can't TOD 400hp characters 😔

[hot moss]

Yeah they've tried to make it a lot more consistent.
But it's also made the stupid air grab bug far too prominent.

[hot moss]

Or wait. No I might still be able to now that I've actually finished my build, so that additional damage would make up for the bit lost from the whiffing.
Imma have to check later.

[terse pelican]

I have a build which gets to 2 grab 350s, so it being more consistent is good for that atleast

[lavish ether]

yea i did some R&D with friends, found a 600dmg red shigi combo, as well as some other niche tricks, so its fine

[hot moss]

Yeah he has some really high damage combos, people just often sleep on em cuz he's not known for being a combo-heavy character

Not like Assault is

[lavish ether]

Mn early seasons people called me crazy when i said he had combos, that was until they saw them and said to gatekeep, oddly enough they dont like being stun locked and near 1 shot

now it is just a 90% one shot if the timing is right

[hot moss]

Yeah
I started using some of his combos back in season 1.
I had to use them a lot more back then to deal with Iidas and Ochacos primarily, since Shig was at his worst state and didn't have many options to fight them.

The best way to combat them was find whatever way I could to deal as much damage as possible without them being able to react so easily.

I don't use the combos as much nowadays though since it doesn't feel like I need to + game gets too laggy for me now to rely on em much anyway.

[lavish ether]

i sometimes still miss the OG shigi, this old dmg can be gotten via tuning, but it was fun days

[hot moss]

The presence of challenge was nice.
He's lost that feel now

Though I don't miss 1 gamma lol

[robust pulsar]

Then monoma appears

[hot moss]

That's not a challenge, that's just a complete denial of playing the game

[dark stump]

Do you live very far away from where the game server you play in is located? (Example, playing in US server while living in Brazil)

Because that whole Gamma carry bug very rarely happens to me who lives in NA and has good internet. But people I know from South America say that the carry but happens most of the time for them, regular whiffing happens a lot, and normal grabs can happen like once per game.

[lavish ether]

Im Nz and tend to do Either Jp or Us depending on teammates (moreso US) so i lag anywhere, the hp grab never use to happen ever so i made the combo instead, but now grab works so it feels weird

[dark stump]

Yeah that explains it, I'm glad that the grab actually happens now so Red Shiggy is actually playable and works for people in the southern continents who don't main him.
But now the Gamma whiffing is mostly just replaced with the air grab bug which has literally killed me multiple times, so the change feels more like an overall nerf to be right now

[lavish ether]

yea the whiffs annoying, got it 3 times in a lv 1 2v1, still managed to win though

[robust pulsar]

That feels good...really good

[dark stump]

I played in a tournament and one of the rounds ended up with me in a 2v1 against Tech Dabi and Tamaki. I got the Tech Dabi in a really bad position and he would've died and I might've clutched it, but I got the air grab bug and so I ate Tech Dabi Gamma and Tamaki Beta to the face 😔 I just stalled for the next 30 seconds and died

[hot moss]

Ya kinda just want to use the gamma for mobility now rather than offense unless it's a 1v1, to make that bug less problematic.

Easier said than done though because of how tight the connection is now, you grab people you don't even want to grab so much easier

[lavish ether]

Im so use to it being only movement, the amount of times i die cause of a accidental grab 😭

[hot moss]

Same, but sometimes I just like to be grabby 😔
Especially if it's on a Rapid or a Monoma. I don't even need my gamma above level 1 to remove half their health instantly.
And if they decide to stick around another grab just finishes the job.
End a fight before it even needs to happen lol

[dark stump]

Even now I still will grab like normal cuz since I use the Rapid Shiggy build I can usually get away with it. It's just end circles and life or death situations where it commonly screws me over.

[hot moss]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

[lavish ether]

Hmm...

I see they havent fixed how Lag works for red shigi

in stormy weather atm, so like, for 60% of the match people were walking in place, i had 7 spectators, 18 Kills and almost 12k dmg 😭

[hot moss]

Neat

[wary willow]

[hot moss]

[wary willow]

✨

[limpid patio]

am i missing something

oh nvm that guy is a master dodger holy

[tired moth]

Maybe he got the new tech mirio qss special tuning early 😂

Where you get immunity after your guard gets broken 🤣

[limpid patio]

yeah that tunning is gonna annoy me so much

[tired moth]

Yh I guess

[limpid patio]

i already know jp is gonna abuse it

they always abusing stuff 😭

[tired moth]

😭

Surely it can’t last too long

Wait does immunity go if you try drink shield?

[limpid patio]

theres still alot of tech denkis with space hop melting people from on top of buildings

[limpid patio]

it might?

if not then it should

[tired moth]

Yh it should

[hot moss]

Laggy City's most functional moment

[wary willow]

THATS THE TUNING???

☠️ DAWG WHAT

NAH TAMAKI ABOUT TO BECOME THE MOST ANNOYING CREATURE WITH THAT

[hot moss]

They have to make it where you get immunity but you can't use attacks until it runs out. So it's ideal for people who like to try and retreat if they get guardbroken rather than keep up the aggression.

Also stops it being too stupid because aggressive players wouldn't want to run it if it means they can't attack for a set amount of time.

That would be the only way that could be balanced.

[jagged flame]

Compress

I use Space Hop on compress

Pls don't hurt me

[hot moss]

I could never hurt someone with the name Berried Delight

[jagged flame]

https://tenor.com/view/devil-may-cry5-bury-the-light-gif-25627466

[cerulean rain]

He also got hit as he would have landed on the floor from launch so the game gave him iframes as if he was in knockdown during stagger

[indigo scarab]

Compress you ok?

[quartz kestrel]

Was the gamma fixed? I see red shiggies hitting that a lot more now

[tired moth]

Yes

[quartz kestrel]

Thats great news

[tired moth]

In fact it got slightly more buffed

As you can grab enemies who are jumping or a bit above you even when it wouldn’t normally hit

[quartz kestrel]

I also feel something weird about tech dabi’s alpha, It tracks a lot better now and somehow feels faster after some time

[tired moth]

Oh that’s nice

[quartz kestrel]

Im not sure tho, because when i use it it doesnt feel like that but when i go against tech dabi i get surprised by some alpha hits

[hot moss]

It's not that great of news

[quartz kestrel]

Why?

[hot moss]

A bug is more prominent that makes him stuck in the animation without grabbing anyone

And the looser connection made it easier to combo when the gamma whiffed

[cerulean rain]

It now snaps to opponents if it's close enough making it harder to avoid

[lavish ether]

Yea not only does it do tue bug Coffee meantioned, it also patched a really good combo shigi had to gamma cancel into melee (sometimes with beta)

[hot moss]

I was starting to get better at that combo too with higher reaction speed to the whiff

As well as vaguely getting the whiffs to finally be more consistent

All in the gutter now because the game sucks

[civic stag]

you could gamma cancel??? 👀

anyway I just played him again

and noticed you can now cancel beta into gamma without wasting the beta charge

if the beta doesn't come out it doesn't consume the charge

meaning movement go brrrrrr

[cerulean rain]

Yeah, he's had that for a bit now i forget exactly when they changed it

[civic stag]

spiraling leap rapid shiggy here I go

[civic stag]

oh???

that's hella neat

think last I really played him was when the charge got used up either way but that was probably last season

so might have been a this season thing

if earlier I feel stupid xD

[cerulean rain]

Pretty sure it's been a thing for a few season at this point, could be wrong or they could have added it then removed it then added it back like they tend to do with some changes they don't list so often

[civic stag]

oh really

that's very interesting

[cerulean rain]

Someone else would probably know for certain better than me on that, i don't play strike that often these days

[civic stag]

I could have sworn last season it took away a charge, maybe two seasons, idrk, idk when I last actively played him

maybe 3 but then time flew by

[cerulean rain]

@dark stump or @hot moss either of you know when they initially added keeping the beta charge with a gamma cancel if you did it early enough?

[hot moss]

Start of last season I believe

[cerulean rain]

Thanks

[civic stag]

oki ty

guess it's been that long

oh also while I'm here. Shiggy players: Does gamma into special action work sometimes, only on hp, or never if they just wake up, and should I just be trying to catch the wake up with special action or smth instead because of it?

I tried gamma sa and most of the time it just didn't work

[hot moss]

Its entirely dependant on if the opponent fast recovers. You'll never land it if they do, but if they don't you can land it a lot of the time if you don't have lag and you hold forward during the grab and when you use SA.
Still no 100% guarantee but it works on GP and HP both.

You don't always need to try it though, instead you could wait and catch their wakeup instead with the special, rather than try to combo it directly after gamma.

[civic stag]

alright awesome thank you so much

basically confirms my suspicions 🩷

it would have been very weird if a move that only deals hp cared about the opponent having shield xD (actually wait, now that I think about it it probably does lol)

but yeah so basically one of my guesses was correct

thx for telling me which one xD

also also

rapid shiggy

what tuning do you use?

cause me liky spiraling leap

enhances my movement so much and if I wanna get down faster I just aim alpha higher

just built it today and it feels so great

[hot moss]

Spiral Leap is definitely a fine option!
I personally run Space Hop because even though my forward jumps aren't affected it gives me more precise control over them. To me there is such thing as being too floaty and I like the fast jumps.

I also use Wall Run, which should be a given for a mobility-based build lol

[civic stag]

I have a wallrunner build but I don't like it as much anymore, if I had awakened heat maybe my opinion would be slightly more favorable
as for floaty jumps vs normal jumps I tend to prefer normal jumps as well except with a few characters. But on shiggy specifically it feels very good, mainly because I can always get quickly out of fire / to the ground with all three of his abilities, and the movement feels a lot better to me but I'll have to see. Also yellow shiggy can now land two alphas in one jump which is a game changer for him and has it easier landing raw betas with more air time and also alphas obv. So right now I REALLY like spiraling leap with him but that could change. I definitely am sad when my spiraling leap runs out (it's not fully leveled yet), whereas on rapid bakugo I only cared on very specific end circles, and even then not that much.

[hot moss]

That's fair, yeah there's no wrong answer between Spiral or Space, it's just down to what suits ya best

[civic stag]

gotcha ^^

I've been trying spiraling on a few characters recently but I haven't loved it on anyone as I do on shiggy

at least right now

tbf I did definitely hated it on rapigo a while back, then tried it for a bit again recently, loved it, then realized I want other tunings a bit more probably, still haven't come to a full conclusion with him

but on shiggy rn it fits like a glove

unless I figure something out that changes that

[hot moss]

I wish you could equip any tuning for free in Training and CPU battles just so you can try new things without worrying about wasting resources or not having data

[civic stag]

yeah 100%

also funny clip of me jumping over toga's and mirio's attack as thank you for your time xD

https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/rLgDna

or how I wish we could redistribute our tuning resources

like I would undo so many of my builds

and make new ones

that way you could also do trials ig

[hot moss]

Videos and clips are always appreciated from my brethren hehe

[civic stag]

heck yeah :>

[quartz kestrel]

Me as asshiggy looking at the mirio who just came out of his beta (Im about to combo that mf midair):

[hot sky]

I have both Shigaraki Boss

Which one is better ?

[hot moss]

Wdym which is better?
They both have their strengths, it depends on which you like more personally. Strike is more popular though

[marble spruce]

strike shigaraki is better for area denial. he can lock down buildings and open areas with his beta and alpha. makes grounded characters have an awful time.

assault shigaraki is better for combos/team combos. also has better survivability with having more movement.

theyre both pretty good. really up to whether you click with one more over the other

[hot moss]

Yes to all but Assault having more movement.
Being able to go upwards higher doesn't mean he has better mobility overall. Bud is a slug lol

[jagged flame]

I agree

His "mobility" is pretty mediocre

[marble spruce]

you know what

fair enough

strike shiggy does have a lot of neat movement he can do

assault is probably better for vertical movement, and thats it

[jagged flame]

He does have his strengths

He's very niche

Mainly only good for the TOD

He takes more effort to maximize his full potential imo

Though I only use Strike

[marble spruce]

id agree, i really only see super good player on assault

strike is much more common.

that change they made to strike's gamma is so weird. especially when fighting one. feels like you teleport into his hand now lol.

[jagged flame]

It's a good change imo

Although I can't do my combo as frequently anymore

https://streamable.com/gq5gy9

[marble spruce]

have they fixed any of the bugs with it yet?

[jagged flame]

His gamma can still drop but it's less frequent

His alpha does have a new bug this season

https://fxtwitter.com/neginukidayo/status/1954053231711334604?s=46&t=cus0YwcxlKTR3lLEAzNbrw

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[marble spruce]

oh??? thats so weird

[jagged flame]

For some reason it'll clip through walls

[hot moss]

Air grab bug still messes us up

[hot moss]

Also this explains some things

[hot moss]

Can still TOD tho hehe

[wary peak]

When I catch somebody in my cell trying to take my loot

2 grabs is all it takes to kill any rapid

[dark stump]

W clips

[indigo scarab]

That's a first for me

[dark stump]

The Alpha missing people next to buildings 😭 I hate that

[wary peak]

Like can we please get season 1 Shiggy damage back

Everyone else gets to have a move that does 200+ but him

[jagged flame]

I'll be honest

If he did

He'd be OP imo

[civic stag]

gang can we make this useful somehow or is it just a little silly?
https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/WOYvgw

I hate that it doesn't just direct it to where the crosshair is aiming 😭

would be cool to turn a backflip into a front flip otherwise (yes I'm a rapid bakugo player lol)

[robust pulsar]

Are we just now doing this shigagang

[civic stag]

uhm I mean prolly people have done it before me but if so any advice on how to hit it? cause it feels so awkward to aim

[robust pulsar]

I prefer doing it aiming to block areas

Much easier than Tryna hit someone

But you get the hang of it with time

[civic stag]

alright gotcha

I shall try to get used to it then

(I just play almost all characters, so my time I can spend on character mastery for individual ones is relatively less. But I shall try

🫡

I just built spiraling leap on him a few days ago, so my interest in him has had a resurgence because of it

very fun char

[civic stag]

so uhm

I just figured out that when using aim mode all the way through

[robust pulsar]

Hi

[civic stag]

I believe it goes where you aim it

my aim sense is just kinda low, so I have to move my mouse across my entire mouse pad for 180

but it seems to go where I want it with it

[robust pulsar]

Shig is a pretty high sens character but idk pc things

[civic stag]

yeah that's fair, I have a lower aim sens than normal sens

cause normally I don't need to 180 in aim mode

typically I'd just 180, reset my mouse, then move more

but I am definitely a pretty low sens player (arm aimer)

high sens players would have it easier here

(yes I play rapigo on low sens 😭)

but still my low sens can do infinitely more than console low sens, I just have a max turning radius, not a max turning speed

and mine is about a 180 from the middle of my mousepad to both directions

unless I'm in aim mode

need a bigger mouse pad again, or technically I already have one that's wider but not as high, so better for horizontal movements

[hot moss]

No...

[hot moss]

I be doing this all the time to throw people off in a fight or for mobility, so yeah it has its uses.

[civic stag]

well I'm already doing it for mobility but tend to not care about the alpha part in that case so I'd tend to cancel it if I have gamma available. Was mostly wondering if the aim can be controlled somehow. Or ig I just now learned it can be used to block stripes on the ground too

[civic stag]

how do you use it to throw them off if I may ask? :3

[hot moss]

Cancel with gamma as you hit the ground with the flip, don't gamma cancel in the air as you'll drift backwards and lose some coverage of escape

[civic stag]

thanks, I actually found that out in training just now as well, was so confused and was wondering if the back flip was flipping back again from flipping it xdd

but then realized it only happened with gamma

[hot moss]

Confusion. People can predict where you aim with the flips normally since it makes the alpha come out slower compared to just grounded alphas
But flipping left, right, backwards, whatever can make it harder to read. Just have to be really snappy with your aim to go back to the target before you land.

I use the reverse flip often to throw people off who are pursuing me on foot, or trying to sneak up, because they think I'll be firing at someone ahead when they see the flip facing away, then suddenly eat a bunch of damage. That also catches em off guard enough for me to land gamma easier if they're close enough because they react slower that way then if I was just to suddenly gamma at them with no other element of surprise beforehand.

It's also just great for entering a fight from a high vantage point.
180° ground no-scope people to 3rd party lol
Flipping off a ledge to descend faster than falling normally, and not having to get caught in the crossfire by using beta lunge to hit them.

[final saffron]

If I have to find another mf ochaco who’s all allergic to the ground I’m going to cry

Same with asschaco

[civic stag]

do you use aim mode to hit those alphas or do you manage without it?

also ty for the long and thorough reply :3

[hot moss]

I don't use aim mode, no.
And no problem! ^^

[civic stag]

so it does always tilt to the side then right? And you just got used to that I assume?

[hot moss]

It depends on how fast you look back with the camera before you land. Sometimes you can have it shoot out straight, but not always. It's easier to do from a 90° turn (left or right) rather than a complete 180°

But I find that I can usually remedy that by looking further to the left instead of at the actual enemy directly when I look back, so the tilted alpha goes where I want it to anyway.

It's just about knowing how to work with the tilt mostly.

[civic stag]

okay gotchaI think I understand

have you ever tried using aim mode?

[hot moss]

I haven't tbh
I could test around, see if it feels any different

[civic stag]

if you want I'd recommend it. I mainly want to know if it lets you just aim normally, for me it's just weird cause I don't have muscle memory for 180 flicks on my aim mode sense

yeah in my aim mode sense I literally need from one side of my mouse pad to the other to 180

[hot moss]

Oh dang
Yeah I'll toy around later when I'm online

[civic stag]

oki lmk what you find out ^^

[limpid patio]

What

[hot moss]

She got grabbed too many times before that she finally had enough 😔

Ohhh wait no there's 2 of them

[limpid patio]

yeah i saw 2 but its still weird the other vanished for a few seconds

[hot moss]

She just took a page out of Twice's book and spontaneously summoned a clone

[marble spruce]

LOL

i didnt even realize there was a second one until coffee pointed it out

the togas are multiplying..

[pliant schooner]

Good tunings for cat shiggy?

I got him today

Wanna play with new toys besides Overhaul and Twice

[lusty nova]

I will abuse my Gamma

[quartz kestrel]

We went from this not working at all to working a lil bit too well

[deep moon]

Rn my tunning for strike shiggy is Fullbrun and Speedy self revive since i dont have any PUR's on my alt and I wanna know if it's like good,decent,meh or bad

[civic stag]

my recomendation would be whatever with spiraling leap you can get

not sure if there's many yellow shiggies in this chat so imma answer that one even though I'm not an insane character expert or anything

[hot moss]

Speedy Self Revive will never be good tbh
Fullburn is decent tho

[deep moon]

We need more strike villians cause the skin im using is villians only

[lusty nova]

As long as they aren’t skill sets heck ya

[deep moon]

Lady nagant could work

[civic stag]

I think it can be good at level 11 only (8s to revive), it's super coin-flippy even then though which is why I don't like it but I think it can be quite strong at that point, esp. if you play with a team or your teammates notice and protect you while you're down, it's lowkey getting close to being a dabi self res at that point, except the enemy doesn't know about it

[deep moon]

Yeah i have a dou who protects me when I drop

[civic stag]

I assume it's pretty strong in that use case?

[deep moon]

Yeah I'll go down and my friend who mains rapid Toga just becomes an unkillable nat for the enemy then boom jumpscare

I hit em with gamma into special action into beta

[civic stag]

hehe sounds about right :>

[marble spruce]

we need more assault before strike

we have a single assault villain, and its a skillset

[lusty nova]

I want Magne or Gentle and Labrava

[deep moon]

Nah, just more villians period

[marble spruce]

muscular and the nomus would be perfect for assault

[deep moon]

Usj nomu yeah, femal Nomu is more rapid

[lusty nova]

I want them to add the full LOV first

[deep moon]

Moonfish probably strike,spinner could be tech with a special action that turns him into his brute form

[lusty nova]

My want list is Ashido, Magne and Nagant

[deep moon]

For me,it's Stain,Tokoyami and gentle criminal

[lusty nova]

Actually we need another female pro

[marble spruce]

tokoyami, mirko, nagant, and mei hatsume for me

[lusty nova]

I’m pretty sure Jiro is next up

[deep moon]

Mirko,Ryukyu or Nana

[lusty nova]

Dare I say Midnight

[deep moon]

BET

[lusty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/nemuri-midnight-ms-mha-boku-gif-13105628

[deep moon]

Also hear me out RAPID mineta,special action has him ping pong across his grapes which are his alpha

[lusty nova]

Grape vine

https://tenor.com/view/mt-lady-midnight-my-hero-academia-gif-22026691

[deep moon]

He would be so fun to play,styling on some fool with a literally midget

Him or gran Torino

[lusty nova]

The poor mt lady mains (I’m very scared)

[deep moon]

Im an up an coming MT.lady main

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-academia-gran-torino-wait-excited-gif-11609024

[lusty nova]

Don’t fall into that heck hole

[deep moon]

She's fun

And I love punishing people's get ups with beta

[lusty nova]

beta is ml

[deep moon]

Just stomping on foes and I love melee melee into beta

[lusty nova]

Abuse them

[deep moon]

This is what I aspire to be

A menace

[lusty nova]

A menace who can’t aim🙏

[deep moon]

REAL I main assault enji,tech dabi and strikd shiggy i never wanted to aim

[lusty nova]

Only ever aim if you annoy me in the lobby

[deep moon]

LMAFO

[jagged flame]

Where's the talk about Shiggy

My main

[lusty nova]

Gone

Jk I stole him

[deep moon]

Gone like his og quirk

[jagged flame]

Who's Mt lady and Midnight

OUT

[lusty nova]

…

[deep moon]

He never grew wings one day

[lusty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/mt-lady-midnight-my-hero-academia-gif-22026691

[lusty nova]

STOPPP

[deep moon]

https://tenor.com/view/tex-avery-wolf-awooga-cartoon-awooga-tex-avery-cartoon-hot-mama-gif-27251492

[deep moon]

Naur

Just like Dabi grew too cold for his own power

Or Toga had to find a family,Spinner lost his sanity for a friend and Twice died to someone he tough was one

Their I'm done traumatizing yall

[cerulean rain]

Space hop, card dupe, crushing plus, revenge technical, wall runner are all solid choices for assault shig

[pliant schooner]

I had a build for strike shiggy would that also work for cat shiggy?

[cerulean rain]

What was it? But usually yeah

[pliant schooner]

It was wall runner crushing PU

[cerulean rain]

Yeah

[pliant schooner]

With mostly Gamma damage

Uh the awakened heat version

[cerulean rain]

The character's good at getting downs if you actually know what you're doing

So you get solid mileage out of the good KO tunings

[pliant schooner]

Alr

Even if I end up not liking cat shiggy I at least have Embrittlement now

[cerulean rain]

The character just does combos, pretty much whatever you think can be a combo is

[exotic bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/mhur-kota-mha-mhur-mods-shigaraki-mod-gif-16984960026240494227

[tired moth]

i had a lil mini tech toga arc, but i'm back on my goat

[tired moth]

Well i think im back

[limpid patio]

nice lol, im struggling so hard to even get a good game with red this season 😭 i suckkk rn

[jagged flame]

Nah it's really bad this season

[marble spruce]

^

[jagged flame]

Solo queue is terrible

Almost unbearable

[marble spruce]

i dropped from a 3.4 kd to 1.5 this season. the game feels so awful with so much aoe spam from tamaki gamma, assault endeavor beta and gamma, and monomas copying both!

[quartz kestrel]

Yeah and all of them fly

[stiff lark]

its been fine for me so far

[jagged flame]

Well do you main strike

[tired moth]

yh i see youve been having some rough games with the lag 😭

[tired moth]

is there any reason / use to aiming in with shiggy?

it doesnt even have a cool aim in animation

[jagged flame]

No

[deep moon]

Since when did shiggy players aim?

[jagged flame]

We never did

[hot moss]

Aura

Just look at someone and slowly walk backwards

[cerulean rain]

For the zoom in to see something more clearly in the distance. That's mainly it and that's extremely niche

[civic stag]

I use it for a split second at the start of front flips to avoid the alpha tilting, learned about that being a thing like yesterday and just now got to test my theory that doing it for only a split second at the start is already enough

https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/2YRogV

haven't gotten to use it in game yet though

[limpid patio]

I only ever do it to make the character face forward, like if you are trying to quickly latch onto a building, I find aiming to turn his character around to be helpful for that. Otherwise you dint need to aim at all

Thats why I don't have my aim in keybind set to my mouse 😭

[lavish ether]

it has a niche use to realign midair for if you need to climb a wall while falling at a dif angle

[tired moth]

Woah wth I didn’t even know it was possible to do a full straight air alpha whilst still flipping in the direction you want

Can you walk me through it

[civic stag]

I didn't either till yesterday

but aim mode makes it possible

[tired moth]

So do you jump, look back then, aim in, then alpha?

Then look back front

[civic stag]

yes as long as you are in aim mode when pressing the alpha you should be good

you can release aim mode after

[tired moth]

Okay thanks

[civic stag]

yup that's a perfect description

[civic stag]

welcome 🩷

[tired moth]

Oh yh I forgot about that

[tired moth]

Genuinely 😭

[tired moth]

Yh pretty neat

I wish he had a cool animation though when he aims in. Like maybe the decay effects on his hands or something atleast

[civic stag]

also just to point out the obvious, but you can also already be looking backwards from the start, I just can't really think of many scenarios where you're like running from someone but still need to hit a team in front of you, ig if it's more like a 90 degree turn that could be the case though, basically aim mode makes your alpha land where you aim it and not slightly shifted back to the origin as it usually would [2nd edit: holy I'm tired and my brain capacity for writing hella low xdd]

but yeah if you can do it without aim mode you'll be able to just add that one in I'm sure ^^

[tired moth]

I wanna do it for when i'm chasing someone and there just a little further ahead in front of me but i want to catch up to them whilst still damaging them

i hope this trick will let me do just that

[tired moth]

Omd it actually works really well

its just gonna take some time to adjust to the aim mode sens and fov

and its a lil hard to see and move

but with practice

though im not sure if you still get the same distance covered by the flip

and it an be kinda slow and clunky at times

[tired moth]

i despise shinso

[jagged flame]

We all do

[tired moth]

I got so unlucky and spawned right next to a shinso

And we all know how terrible early game shiggy is 😭

[tired moth]

Let’s just say I got sent to the lobby quickly

[slow tapir]

Got my revenge on endeavor btw

[civic stag]

yup exactly, now that I think of it front flip into gamma is probably a pretty good move to pull so the enemy doesn't get to prepare seeing you gamma at them and you get free alpha damage

[civic stag]

glad to hear ^^

[civic stag]

I also struggled with that a lot until I figured out I can essentially just tap aim mode and I barely notice the change in fov at least cause it lasts so short. I'm not sure though if the small bit in aim mode still plays with my 180 muscle memory or not, haven't tested enough yet to say for sure but watch my vid again if you feel that your fov gets obscured too (quick aim mode tap probably only works if aim mode is set to "hold" though)

[civic stag]

or wait I'm the dumbass that just watched my vid again

you're so right it uses zoomed in fov all the way through, that explains why it was confusing lmao

sorry my bad 😂

the reply was meant for my next point but then I rewatch and had to self-correct

cause with the distance I'm planning to test that

and then we'll know

I was wondering the same thing

would be odd if it doesn't though

[tired moth]

The distance is somehwat same

but the annoying thing is that when you flip you go a little bit to the side

like you cant do a straight flip

which is a little annoying

[civic stag]

oh really? didn't notice it and it's difficult for to me to figure out given the fov change and everything but I'll believe you, did some testing on the train rails to verify you can shoot the alpha straight opposite at least
https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/Bkz2eO

[civic stag]

but yeah with the little distance testing I did so far it seemed to be the exact same

I will say though I started noticing again just now that the aim mode sens is actually maintained throughout the flip, not just the start of it. I thought releasing it again would mitigate that but it seems not. My mouse pad is too small to make good use of this tech after all 😭

actually nvm nvm on the mousepad part again, I realized that if I reset my mouse into a very very tilted position I can do like a 90 degree turn with my wrist already and then can finish with a normal arm motion

so I can do this tech on this mouse pad, I just need to reset my mouse into a weired position before doing it

[tired moth]

Woah yours looks perfect

idk why but when i do it its so clunky

i think its because when i do it i'm moving forward then turn

[civic stag]

took lots of attempts though, the more I try the more I see your point xD

[tired moth]

whereas your already in the turn postion

[civic stag]

it is impossible

just not actually impossible

just really hard for no reason

[tired moth]

Its a pretty niche tool

[civic stag]

inconsistent almost

[tired moth]

theres not many situations youd need it

[civic stag]

yeah that's also true

but I only clipped the best one

part of me thinks there's some kind of almost rng like thing to it

where how you turn around matters too, not just any way works the same or smth

actually nvm nvm

like I don't even understand this

rn it's telling me it's consistent again

but I agree staright 180 turns are difficult

I'll set my sim mode sense equal normal sens to figure out if then it's easier

nah it still seems just as inconsistent I don't get it

but as shown in my vid it's technically very possible

[hot moss]

☕

It's neat seeing you two discuss the 180° flips so much lol

[lavish ether]

i somehow beat my past max dmg of 15500 dmg, which was set in s3

[civic stag]

hehe I mean I did figure out that you could do the the aim mode tech and am enjoying shiggy rn, so I'd like to understand the tech myself xdd

just sad that I don't have spiraling leap where I want it most

[hot moss]

"Not bad.. I guess you pass."

[robust pulsar]

But when I play shig I get every rapid in the west

[lavish ether]

you learn to fight rapids, they are the easiest of the classes for me to fight

[robust pulsar]

Yea but you don't get much dmg because they die too fast

[lavish ether]

tbh depends on how they play, if i know they are a problem its better to lose the dmg, if they arnt that good and there are others around i will just continue fighting without finishing and leave it up to fate to see if the rapid dies

[civic stag]

what are you guys damage farming for outta curiosity?

for average damage stat?

cause in rank 3k is the max for what gains you rating

[lavish ether]

you get more ranked points with more dmg to a point, 6k area gives more than 2k dmg

or it feels like it anyway

i just like dealing dmg personally, is fun

[civic stag]

yeah that last part I can agree with

but unless they changed it again 3k damage is giving you 300 points and that's the max iirc

[lavish ether]

it might be, i never check the point values after match

[civic stag]

if you want you can

but I agree that high damage makes you feel more impactful

[loud zenith]

Am I a good shiggy Cheffy 🥺

[civic stag]

it's nice seeing funny number go up and being featured as an MVP at the end (though your number won't matter if you don't survive lmao)

[lavish ether]

We havent fought shigi vs shigi in forever, you wernt bad though, mainly cause i taught you alot of the combos miss Toga main

[lavish ether]

sometimes it does, i think its if you leave and a new phase begins

[loud zenith]

:>>>>>

Yayyyyyy