Tomura Shigaraki

[jagged flame]

It just makes logical sense

[hot moss]

People didn't use Space Hop Tech Denki until his vid with the build came out

[jagged flame]

I don't exactly remember

But Tech Denki is meta rn

He's pretty good

[final saffron]

Hear me out

But being able to run with gamma WHILE someone is grabbed

[jagged flame]

Shiggh is different

Ever paid attention to his gamma animation

Would never try running like that lol

[final saffron]

Why does SA just take me nowhere sometimes?

I do it as a substitute for air melee because both knock down except sa does more damage and gives a debuff

But sometimes I literally go as stiff as a rock in the air

[marble spruce]

the forward jump version of special action doesnt really give a lot of distance in my experience

[final saffron]

The weird thing is it’s sometimes does

But sometimes I’m literally not moving

[subtle minnow]

I think you have to look down an up again to move idk

[limpid patio]

nah jp have been doing it since ochacos release

now that denki is out theres atleast 5 or 6 in a lobby

most of the time tho, not all

[hot moss]

Huh
I still rarely ever see them over Strike Denki tbh

[limpid patio]

i havent seen many strikes recently, servers are inverted

[hot moss]

Real

[hot moss]

You don't have to do that, but I do see many people move the camera like that for some reason

[subtle minnow]

Oh well idk

[jagged flame]

Since the recent patch

No more bot lobbies

[hot moss]

🥳

[marble spruce]

for ranked? nice

[jagged flame]

Well I'm in Ace rank

Not getting bot lobbies in ranked anymore

So I tested Assault Shiggy yesterday

Feels pretty good

[marble spruce]

wonderful

[jagged flame]

But I still prefer strike shiggy

[marble spruce]

i was planning on helping a friend get to ace when strike kendo drops, glad to know itll be actual lobbies

[jagged flame]

We're getting Kendo SS next month

July 2nd

[marble spruce]

yessss

only a few more days

im so ready

really excited to try her tuning out as well, i think it could be fun on both shiggys since they have some nice melee combos

[hot moss]

Shhhhhhh

[final saffron]

The only cool thing I’ve done on this character

And it was literally just me catching a wake up…

At least I live up to my name

[marble spruce]

nice

very nice

[final saffron]

On dc I mean

[hot moss]

You didn't catch her wakeup, she just didn't wakeup at all allowing you to pull off the gamma -> SA combo
Still smooth tho

[final saffron]

I just have a different definition of wake up

Wake up, is what you do off the ground

Would that be a slow wake up where you keep your vulnerability frames

A directional wake up

Or you wake up with a move or an attack

[jagged flame]

Holy fps drops

I don't know how yall do it

[final saffron]

Switch gaming

[final saffron]

You can’t tell how good it is for someone else if you have only experienced the worst

[jagged flame]

I don't want to experience this

[final saffron]

Good

Don’t

[hot moss]

Yeah that is what a wake up is.
But in the instance of landing the SA after a gamma the enemy needs to literally not even touch the ground after the initial throw lol
So it's a combo

[subtle minnow]

One two three

[limpid patio]

that delay is insane

[jagged flame]

I can't tell if he's lagging or if you were lagging

[limpid patio]

both i think

i was streaming to a friend just for that game

might've been me

[jagged flame]

Cus you did the hit before the Iframes went away

[limpid patio]

yeah i have to like plan ahead of time

kinda hard to explain

its because my attacks are slightly delayed

[jagged flame]

I've heard you play on JP server

[limpid patio]

yeah i kinda have to lol

[jagged flame]

Unfortunate

[limpid patio]

its not too bad but it does get annoying when i get ping diffed

hitting melee attacks and tracking in general dont work very well tho

i often just die to things like this lol

[hot moss]

Lucky friend smh

[limpid patio]

i got 12 ko's but gameplay wasnt too fun to watch

gonna just keep it stashed away for eternity

[hot moss]

Noooooooo

I'm sure the gameplay would be fun to watch regardless 😔

[limpid patio]

i wanna try and go for a game where i actually hit proper combos lol

i just jump around and spam in my videos

i do hit clips but i usually just save them for shorter montages or smth like that

[hot moss]

Tbh I can relate lol
So many clips I look at like "Ew who tf would wanna see this"

Also wanting to hit the combos is real.
I've been trying too but so far attempting combos on Laggy City is just a no-go

[limpid patio]

yeah, trying to do it at all this season just isnt it

not with monoma and shiggys bug

hopefully it changes next season tho

[hot moss]

Wishful thinking it'll take just one season to fix :')

[limpid patio]

i mean, despite all the bugs and unbalanced characters that dropped this season, they have been cooking with alot of stuff the past 2 seasons

i know it probably wont take a season but i like to think that hopefully they do

alongside all the other bugged characters

[sullen magnet]

My best thing is to immediately melee

[lyric prawn]

his melee actually does so much damage too
it hits the dopamine receptors to use his melee with yellow shigi

[terse pelican]

is it just me or is willpower broken

70% of the time i get hit, put to 1 hp but stay up and die instantly

just died this match which was being very good to it

[lyric prawn]

its as intended honestly
it just gives you the equivalent to a knockdown iframe so you have a chance to run

[terse pelican]

it didnt knock me down thats the point

also found another bug i havent seen in strike shiggy gamma, for some reason no matter how much i held it it would end as if i pressed the button

weirdly it fixed when i used plus chaos

[terse pelican]

what i meant is not functioning properly

[lyric prawn]

yea thats just weird then

[terse pelican]

as i said above it wouldnt trigger the knockdown

[lyric prawn]

byking lock in

[terse pelican]

also have you ran into this?

idk what triggered it, or why it fixed itself but it was bad

[cerulean rain]

A lot of strike shigs have been running into it since this season started

[terse pelican]

so lets count what the gamma has:
-not connecting properly
-grabbing invincible enemies and locking you in the animation
-not being able to hold it
-grabbing the air

might be as broken as release aizawa alpha

[sullen magnet]

Oh, that's probably a controller issue

[cerulean rain]

No it's not

[sullen magnet]

So I've been blowing on my controller for nothing, wow

[cerulean rain]

If you level up your gamma after it happens it's fixed

[hot moss]

Yep

[cerulean rain]

My theory is that it has to do with using an alpha/beta then gammaing off a ledge since at least from my experience it's usually happened to me shortly after i did one of those

But when i didn't do either a beta or alpha cancel then gamma'd off a ledge for several games it didn't happen once

[terse pelican]

Im on pc so

[terse pelican]

So pu fixed it because it changed the level huh

[cerulean rain]

Yeah

[limpid patio]

nah it just happens at random, sometimes i would start the match off and its already bugged

[cerulean rain]

Yeah i had a feeling it was either random or caused by the cancels into going off a ledge since for me i only ever had it happen when i did those. I barely have played strike shig this season though so i wasn't 100% certain lol

[limpid patio]

not great but im still trying to get the hang of it

[hot moss]

I mean that wasn't bad
Just a lil rough around the edges.
Instead of Special first though you could've tried to go for the air melee into grounded melees into gamma.
Wouldn't have gotten as much damage without the debuff but it would've likely looked smoother to pull off lol
And you could've possibly caught his wakeup with the Special anyway.

Or air melee into grounded melees into alpha into gamma into SA if you really wanna go big
Completely untrue combo but not impossible 👀

[limpid patio]

the issue with bigger combos is that they probably wont connect if i tried lol

its pretty jank for me but i do wanna atleast try and pull some off

[tired moth]

i just did the clutch of a lifetime against 2 annoying teams

i was solo against a denki, mirio, twice team and a solo monoma who had shig beta, twice gamma and mirio alpha

[tired moth]

yooo that's sick

[tired moth]

i think they were talking about when they hit gamma after the first sa and caught her wakeup

[tired moth]

is there any benefit to doing air melee instead of sa?

[tired moth]

oo that was saucy

[limpid patio]

Im not really sure, i havent done alot of melees because of my delay but i did want to just try it out more often

[hot moss]

Not tremendously
But air melee on someone who is on the ground can allow you to start a combo.
Special knocks so obviously it's harder to combo off of that

[tired moth]

How do you beat shinso with strike shiggy?

[jagged flame]

That's the thing

Its a really bad match up

For almost everyone in a 1v1

Shinso is really good in 1v1's

[hot moss]

Tbh after a while I've kinda found it easy to fight Shinsos in a 1v1
But I'm not really sure how to explain how I do it

Some of them are very predictable. Most are actually.

If they fly up into the sky you know they'll likely come crashing down on you with a beta, so I tend to send my beta out just as he flies up and then gamma out of the way so he lands in my puddle as he attempts to land on me and takes some good damage.

Not fast recovering against him is pretty crucial. He can catch wakeups extremely well otherwise.
So if he does alpha me and I get knocked down I'll let myself get up slowly, and since they try to catch wakeups with either beta or gamma, he'll be standing very close to me which will allow me to immediately gamma grab him after his failed wake-up catching attempt. I just have to time it well.
Because of his startup lag on his air alpha you can relatively easily smack him out of trying to escape, if you're quick.

If you do get hit by his gamma the key is not to panic. You can still fight even with slowed movement. Most people panic and that can sell them.

Avoiding his Special is very easy but if you do get hit by that uh... pray you don't take too much damage. If you do though, remember again to slow recover.

This is an example of how important it is to not quick recover.

Granted, he had a Mic with him so this wasn't a 1v1 at all and I had to bail, but I was still able to hold out long enough for the team heal because I didn't panic and predicted the Shinso attempting to catch my wakeup to which he failed and I was able to escape.

[jagged flame]

Most of the time

I don't use Beta when getting over walls

When running away

I use his alpha cus you touch the ground faster

[hot moss]

Yeah I do too
I just kinda didn't in that clip lol

Looking upward with the alpha helps you touch the ground even quicker than just using the alpha normally too

[jagged flame]

Didn't know that

But I do look upward all the time

Good to know

[terse pelican]

i still got it

my team was aizawa dead the entire match and monoma missing

i was fighting for my life against 2 whole teams

and had 0 shields besides pu for 6 minutes

[limpid patio]

nice

i nearly got a 14 kill game but i got roasted by a red dabi in the end

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[terse pelican]

Unlucky, if it was me my grab wouldnt have worked

(Using monoma to copy because i dont have him) but his hug bugs out more than strike shiggy gamma, and thats saying something

[hot moss]

The funny thing is that I had a brief encounter before
Where I was fighting a Dabi, then at one point he tried to hug me and it bugged.
So I smacked him which Downed him, but when I tried to gamma him, it bugged... so he rezzed.

We didn't even continue the fight tho we both just awkwardly left. I like to imagine it was a moment of mutual understanding of pain 🥰

[subtle minnow]

Somehow more cinematic

[tired moth]

i see thanks

the shinso i was fighting had space hop so none of my moves could really connect cause he wasnt touching the gorund most of the time

and i couldnt get close either because thats just a bad idead when fighting shinso

also i'm pretty sure he can alpha you out of gamma

[lyric prawn]

he can

[dark stump]

LET'S GOOOOO

rolled once on the character roll I'm happy 😊

I already have 3 builds I wanna make now

there goes my rainbows

[quartz kestrel]

I remember shiggy having no good skin for fixer

[hot moss]

Booooo

[dark stump]

there is one that looks good, and another that looks ok

This one is Fixer + Space Hop
I can do Triple Alpha and one Gamma with fixer, and the other side I can put another Gamma attack

This is a good fit if you really want fixer, cuz you have Space Hop for more mobility

[hot moss]

I still don't know how much fixer actually enhances anything

[dark stump]

This one is Fixer + Warp Heal/Reinforced Revive
I can do double Gamma and single HP attack and buff them with Fixer, on the right I can put another HP attack

This one looks nice for max Gamma damage but your special TUNINGs aren't good, so it's ok

[tired moth]

Grrrrr

On a character pull 😭

My luck is so bad

I haven’t got a pur in so long

[terse pelican]

Fixer feels weird on shiggy for me, the awakened heat does the same damage as fixer

[dark stump]

It multiplies the buff percentage of the whole column by a certain amount, depending on the level of your Fixer

Level 1: 1.1
Level 1: 1.2
Level 1: 1.3
Level 1: 1.4
Level 1: 1.5
Level 1: 1.6
Level 1: 1.7
Level 1: 1.8
Level 1: 1.9
Level 10: 2.0
Level 11: 2.1

So for example, if you have two Level 3 alpha attacks in your Fixer column, and your Fixer is Level 10, your alphas will have a percent increase of:
2((1.02*1.02)-1) = 0.0808 = 8.08% increase

At least that's how I think the game does it

[terse pelican]

Pretty sure it is

My assault deku does
76 no tuning
82 tuning
88 fixer tuning

[quartz kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/kinger-the-amazing-digital-circus-tadc-crazy-normal-gif-9229061266949666653

marhs

[terse pelican]

So it doubled the damage increase

[dark stump]

yeah

[terse pelican]

The thing with shiggy is that multihit moves scale weirdly

It feels like it needs to hit a breakpoint then it increases a lot

[dark stump]

it's how I don't waste my resources on a build I know won't give value

me sitting with my 78 rainbows 😌

[hot moss]

N e r d 🫵

[dark stump]

I am

[terse pelican]

Im letting my little brother play on my pc a little

But i have a comparsion on fixer i can put here

[hot moss]

I like nerds ☕

[dark stump]

which builds?

[terse pelican]

Awakened heat and i think fixer on this one

[dark stump]

I see 🤔

[terse pelican]

Awakened heat is probably the biggest tuning anomaly ive ever seen for base slots

You can slot like 8 dmg ups on it

I think 5 strikes, tech denki, overhaul and rapid bakugo

Not even santa all might compares to it

[dark stump]

I know, it's insane

I'm so happy I got it lol

[hot moss]

Nah, I'd win

[terse pelican]

I just looked and its even more insane the grn slot is villain, the blue one is hero, and there is 1 strike hero and 1 villain for red dabi

Also rapid basic tunings really suck

[hot moss]

Most do

[dark stump]

Most don't even work lol

only the jump ones do

[terse pelican]

I dont even get is dash speed and run speed

Is running walking and dashing running

[dark stump]

And by don't work I mean they are literally broken

[terse pelican]

What are those terms

[terse pelican]

So thats why my meme iida build of speed didnt work

I tried putting gamma recharge, revenge rapid and movement speed on him

Also, can we just talk about how hp dmg >>>>> gp dmg even for people who dont do true damage

[hot moss]

Most attacks shred shield instantly, if GP attack damage did more there'd be no point in shields even being a thing atp

[terse pelican]

Hp has the same or bigger pool (except mirio) so you need to do more damage to it, and people are likely to run when they are low so you are more safe to burst them with a sudden increase in damage

[hot moss]

Yep

[jagged flame]

Bored

Game needs more characters

That I like

[dark stump]

You're right, they do the same damage (on HP for Heat)
But with more strikes, Fixer will do more sometimes

Total Alpha damage based on number of Strike members:

Awakened (Heat)
1 Strike: 116GP/120HP
2 Strikes: 120GP/124HP
3 Strikes: 132GP/136HP

Awakened (Hero)
1 Strike: 120GP/HP
2 Strikes: 128GP/HP
3 Strikes: 136GP/GP

[terse pelican]

Did you put fixer max level?

[dark stump]

nope, Level 10

[terse pelican]

I mean that is the max on awakened hero

[dark stump]

oh yeah well that is max level lol

[jagged flame]

Hmm not worth it imo

[terse pelican]

Fixer might work better on assault shiggy

[jagged flame]

Not on shiggy rn atleast

[dark stump]

I could also put Double HP attack instead of Alpha here, for some nice Gamma damage

[terse pelican]

But as i said multi hits since they scale on each hit there is sort of a breakpoint to increase the damage

[dark stump]

and my Alpha will get the crazy damage on HP

[terse pelican]

On deku it gives just 6 more alpha dmg with triple alpha under it

[dark stump]

hm, that might be better actually

[terse pelican]

How did you put the tunings under fixer?

Dabi bakugo denki?

[dark stump]

Strike Bakugo, Red Dabi, Rapid Bakugo, Tech Denki

yeah

but I could replace Strike Bakugo and Dabi with Endeavor and Present Mic

[hot moss]

How often do you think you'll be running that build?

[terse pelican]

Rapid bakugo i didnt put becauae i dont have his data

Could be a funny 200 dmg grab build

[dark stump]

yeah lol

plus the Space Hop so I still have a mobility buff

[terse pelican]

Mine heat build does 180 without assaults on the enemy team so it two shots 350 people

[dark stump]

it'll be a fun build, so not much

I'll definitely use Awakened (Heat) a good amount

[terse pelican]

I think wall runner willpower is the best thing it has rn

[dark stump]

it definitely won't be my main build tho, Space Hop + Wall Run is too good

[terse pelican]

Maybe kendo tuning could be better on him

Ive seen people running kota finder on him

And while i do get you need levels

[hot moss]

Rapid Shiggy > Strike Shiggy

[terse pelican]

Please no

[hot moss]

Kota Finder on him is a literal joke

[dark stump]

At least it's better than Speedy Self-Revive...

[terse pelican]

Willpower also has some good synergy with shiggy since he can leave lingering hitboxes, meaning you can get knocked and still get a ko

[dark stump]

that's true

[tired moth]

nah shinso is op, theres no way you can fight him as strike shiggy

[marble spruce]

i ran that on my budget build and got value on it like maybe once or twice

[dark stump]

I did too lmao

[hot moss]

You can

[terse pelican]

The second he betas you can delete his face from the planet

[dark stump]

there was one time I downed a Froppy the same time she killed me and I got up faster cuz of it, that only happened once tho

that was the only time I got value off of it

[hot moss]

There's a lot you can do against Shinso tbh

That being said he does still need to be on the chopping block at some point

[marble spruce]

shinso is just so strong in 1v1s

[dark stump]

He's one of the best 1v1 characters, some say THE best 1v1 character but I'm still an Aizawa believer

[hot moss]

A character is only as good as the person using them

[hot moss]

Monoma...

[dark stump]

Aizawa still wins tbh

Monoma can't copy Special Actions

[hot moss]

True

[dark stump]

which is one of the biggest reasons Aizawa is the 1v1 king imo

now if Toga copies Aizawa blood that's a different story...

[hot moss]

I don't think thats what makes him a 1v1 king.
Aizawa's special is very easy to just kind of evade the follow ups from or simply punish.
Anyone who fights him and doesn't expect him to use it at all to try and catch people out are pretty oblivious.

[terse pelican]

Id say shinso is the 1v1 king, aizawa is the jumping king

[dark stump]

Until you fight that one Aizawa that has amazing aim

shudders

[terse pelican]

Getting jumped while an aizawa looks at you is miserable

[hot moss]

Nah Laggy City Aizawas
They can hit you from 7 blocks away

[terse pelican]

Aizawa essentially lets your team get 100% free kos

Because what they are gonna do melee the all might shooting at them

[dark stump]

Shinso is definitely a lot easier to play and get results with, but if I compare the (theoretical) best Aizawa and the best Shinso and how well they do in 1v1s, they don't even come close

[terse pelican]

Shinso thing too is he is better at dealing with multiple people

[dark stump]

Aizawa also has the massive advantage of his alpha pulling you to him, Shinso doesn't

[terse pelican]

He has giant 200 dmg aoes and he can shut someone down with his sa

He can turn a 1v2 into a 1v1

[dark stump]

oh for sure, I understand if you say Shinso is a better character than Aizawa in general

just for a pure 1v1 standpoint I think Aizawa is the king

[terse pelican]

I mean yeah aizawa can literally alpha melee gamma and it does over 300 dmg

Its just, aizawa excels at having more people with him, while shinso excels against more people vs him

[hot moss]

I don't think that's true for Shinso at all

He gets melted by multiple people

[terse pelican]

I mean compared to aizawa, and not talking for a coordinated team either

Because literally no character other than maybe monoma can deal with a stack solo

[hot moss]

Eh true

[hot moss]

I can, trust

[terse pelican]

The most unfun experience is getting an aizawa with 2 beamers and you just die

Because he just looks at you and you get shot to death

[dark stump]

yeah, Aizawa Alpha is the best combo enabler

and also the fact that it keeps them in place for a while so your stack can shoot them down

in the S9 official tournament one of the teams did that and got quick KOs

[terse pelican]

This is the most stupid part about both shinso and aizawa alpha

The fact it holds you in place for over a second and you can just take damage while stunned

[dark stump]

yeah, and for free

just aim shoot bam you're dead

Denki has to get close, against Strike Shoto you have to be close to the ground

and Aizawa's one has a longer stun than them

it's insane

and of course Strike Shiggy and Strike Dabi have the risk of them being beamed down themselves

[terse pelican]

yeah, aizawa also can just stop people from escaping even with armored moves

because guess what is a long range grab

even strike dabi hug kinda makes it hard to shoot the grabbed person

[hot moss]

And remember, Aizawa keeps getting buffed :)

[terse pelican]

what did they do again? make his beta come back faster?

so he has more mobility

[hot moss]

He was previously given another alpha too and I think erasure lasts longer

[hollow salmon]

i feel like red kiri tuning is more important than wallrunner on red shiggy 🤔

im considering to make a different build

like either yellow - red or red - blue villain slot

[hollow salmon]

it is so annoying

[marble spruce]

you see the reason why it didnt connect is because ochaco used her permeation quirk

only logical reasoning

[ornate glen]

See for assault shigaraki how should I upgrade my moves what ones should I prioritise first

@dark stump you have any tips for assault shigaraki?

[dark stump]

nope, I don't play that smelly character

(don't have him either)

but there are some assault shigaraki players here who will answer your question

[ornate glen]

Aight bet😂

Atleast u can help me either special action

I just got assault

What’s the purpose of special action it just seems like a regular hit

Nothing too special about it

[marble spruce]

it gives the embrittlement effect on someone, can be used for movement and for combos

also destroys any breakable buildings it touches instantly

[ornate glen]

@marble spruce see for assault gamma how can u stop myself once I hit the opponent

I see other people can do that

But when I hit my gamma whilst not holding I still keep moving after I hit them

[marble spruce]

hmmm im not sure, i dont have much experience on assault shiggy yet.

@quartz kestrel might have an answer

[quartz kestrel]

You can stop by cancelling into beta immediately after hitting gamma

[ornate glen]

Ohhh okkkk i understand

Ty

@quartz kestrel u got any tips for assault shigaraki for me?

[quartz kestrel]

The one thats really useful that comes to my mind atm is

You can cancel the startup of beta with a roll this makes beta great for punishing enemies who rush you down

You can cancel it very early too

[subtle minnow]

It took you replying to them for me to realize you're two different people...

[hollow salmon]

@hot moss what do you think

@dark stump

[dark stump]

Who are these two people...

[dark stump]

If you know how to do the Wall Run techs, it is definitely his best tuning

[hot moss]

Willpower over Wall Runner?
No-

[dark stump]

you gain like 3x more mobility at least

[subtle minnow]

You and coffee

[dark stump]

oh LOL

[hot moss]

With Wall Runner you avoid more situations where you would even need Willpower to activate

[hot moss]

Hewwo

[marble spruce]

wall runner is such a good tuning for so many characters

[hollow salmon]

mhmm

the thing is i feel like sometimes my red shiggy is good with special

i know wallrunner is a upgrade

i would love to use both

[subtle minnow]

It's good on everybody

[hollow salmon]

but i dont have the right pu skin

[marble spruce]

i run it on assault ochaco and assault shiggy. feels so good so i can save their movement abilities for combos rather than escape tools

[subtle minnow]

The blackwhips I've landed thanks to wallrunner....

[marble spruce]

dm me your deku build

[hollow salmon]

@dark stump @hot moss whats ur second best special tuning for red shiggy

you played a lot of games

i would like to know which one worked good/bad so far

[dark stump]

Space Hop, the more mobility the better

[hot moss]

Space Hop, the more mobility the better - x2

Seriously mobility based tuning can up his survivability dramatically

[hollow salmon]

mhmm

[hot moss]

Though some people use Spiral Leap which is alright

[hollow salmon]

funny you said the same xd

so you really prefer hop over red kiri tuning?

[dark stump]

yep

[hot moss]

Yep
Willpower isn't awful though and can definitely help at times but Space Hop just makes a lot more things convenient

[hollow salmon]

hmm interesting

so its actually good i got the suit skin 🤔

[hot moss]

Yass

[hollow salmon]

thanks for the advice

i dont feel bad now xd

i aready love space hop on shinso

[tired moth]

THERES NOTHING I CAN DOOOOO

[tired moth]

@hot moss

[tired moth]

ALSO WDYM IT ONLY TAKES SHINSO ONE ALPHA AND 2 BETAS TO TOD U???????

how is he not op

[terse pelican]

you took a lot of storm damage, but yeah he is really strong

you probably should have stayed in storm and zoned him in the building

[tired moth]

i couldnt risk the storm damage

[terse pelican]

since you landed a grab he was already low hp and couldnt stay there

if he tried to kill you there he would die 100%

[tired moth]

but theres no reason for shinso to go in the storm

[hot moss]

Yeah that wouldn't TOD you with no storm damage taken into account.
Still a lot of damage though fs

[tired moth]

tooo much damage

but realistically

even regardless of storm damage

i'm still dead

he only used one alpha and 2 betas

he still has a lot of other rourses

or a teamate could have finished the job

or hed wait for cooldowns to come back

[terse pelican]

he was out of betas after the last one

[tired moth]

either way im d e d

he can chase me as well

[terse pelican]

he hit you , went into the air and then used another one

[tired moth]

and i cant do nothing to him cause he has space hop and always in the air

so getting close would be very hard

[tired moth]

ik but he can just wait for his beta to come back or just use his other abilities

that would bound to kill me after

[terse pelican]

again, my play would have been storm stall for a while inside the building you were at the start of the clip and leave by the truck

[tired moth]

he would of waited me out

and besides you saw what i tried to do

[terse pelican]

thats why id leave by the truck side

[tired moth]

i couldnt move without him grabbing me with alpha

[tired moth]

oh u talking about at the start of the clip

[terse pelican]

yes, i was talking stay in there

you had taken 0 dmg to him yet

[tired moth]

i mean you gotta really think hard abt that

[terse pelican]

if he didnt leave there he would die

[tired moth]

which id never get in the heat of the moment

i just knew storm was coming and the exit was close

cause if id try going the other exit, the shinso would have recovered and alphaed me after i grabbed him with gamma

thats why i quickly went out the other exit so he couldnt recover and alpha me instantly

[terse pelican]

if he tried alpha beta by where the storm was he would take atleast around 100 dmg, he would not leave there

[tired moth]

270 damage with alpha beta combo

like wtf

[tired moth]

ahhh yh cause i used my gamma on him so his hp would have been low and then hed die to storm damage if he tried comboing me

[terse pelican]

yeah that

[tired moth]

still i just cant think of that on the spot

i'm more worried abt my own hp

ima test shinso out in training and find his weaknesses

[terse pelican]

its usually experience, ive been playing this character since the game came out

the more you fight you end up learning what to do in each situation

[tired moth]

but thats just another bad 1v1 for the shiggy mains 😔

[tired moth]

yh true

i actually havent fought many shinsos

and they werent as good as this player

[terse pelican]

coffee has been typing for the last 5 minutes lmao

[tired moth]

lol yh

he's about to cook

[jagged flame]

Game is pretty boring rn

[hot moss]

Part of the problem is you made yourself very easy to read here.
The Shinso was able to keep tabs on you the whole time.

When you turned your camera back to the exit after running out of the building you obviously didn't notice but he alpha'ed straight up to the air behind you, having left the building at basically the same time you did. If you saw that, you could've looked up and seen him about to beta down, which you could've gamma'ed him out of and grabbed him again.
He had eyes on you when you didn't have eyes on him which was your main issue.

If it was me personally I'd have been a bit more unpredictable.
Jump up to the catwalk right after the gamma throw instead of heading out the main exit, lay down a beta for intimidation and leave via the small upper side exit.
The Shinso wouldn't have been able to follow you the same way without taking the beta damage, and you can still see the main exit from just outside the side exit, allowing you to see when he left.
At that point you could've snuck back inside and started healing which you would've been able to do even while taking the storm damage, since it wasn't hitting your hp too hard.

Shinso might look for you but with the building being covered by storm he likely would just move on, not wanting to risk taking more storm damage himself just to check back inside the building as his health was already lower than yours.

Or you know, since I saw him alpha up behind you I could've done the same stuff you did but just not been caught off guard by his surprise beta and punished him for trying it lol
Shinso is someone you do need to keep close track off at all times.

[limpid patio]

holy

[jagged flame]

Just played and won all my matches

Shinso is probably the best close range character in a 1v1

Nah it isn't Twice

[terse pelican]

fker just presses gamma and cancel your everything

doesnt even need to aim

[tired moth]

Thank you 🙏🙏

[jagged flame]

Only a matter of time when it gets nerfed

Cope

[terse pelican]

surely, not like they touched twice last patch and did just that

[jagged flame]

-1 damage

[terse pelican]

they killed him already

[jagged flame]

Greatest nerf ever by the devs

I'm dying

[terse pelican]

literally made a vid called "guys they nerfed twice", and the thumb is the damage change

it says everything

[jagged flame]

The twice players are gonna miss that -3 damage

💀

[hot moss]

You talking bout the Twice nerf and I just notice this notif

[terse pelican]

yeah i just watched it, its stray lowering his fps

so you know

he now gets to be a switch twice

[tired moth]

but lets say for example open area and he's close by what do i do?

cause i can't do gamma first cause he can just grab me out of it with alpha

[terse pelican]

yeah i missed it so much on the match i did 6k dmg 7kos 8 assists

[terse pelican]

roll his alpha, then gamma and find cover

do not fight shinso on a open area

if you must use jump alpha to make yourself unpredictable so he doesnt hit you

the alpha jump goes back always but the alpha goes where youre looking at

[tired moth]

yh there is nothing i can do against his alpha but roll

[terse pelican]

so you can change directions with alpha while shooting at him

[tired moth]

but he can easily alpha me when i return to the ground after the jump alpha

[hot moss]

He'd be taking your alpha damage if he does

[terse pelican]

that, because he stands still on his alpha

also he will never want to be really close because of beta

[tired moth]

also the further away you are from shinso does it become easier to roll his alphas?

[terse pelican]

yeah, its not instant travel

[tired moth]

i see

and if he does waste his alphas i can then try gamma him

?

[terse pelican]

id recommend just using alpha on him

[tired moth]

ok

but i assume once hes out of alphas he'd just take to the skies with beta

but then again he has no alphas so im free to use gamma

oooo

nah thats actually a good tactic

but it depends on the alpha cooldowns

💀

nvm

level 9, 5 alphas and 2sec reload

😭😭

[terse pelican]

every time he whiffs you should be able to hit him with one

[tired moth]

one of my alphas?

[terse pelican]

yeah, he has some recovery when he shoots it, pretty sure you can use one alpha and roll again

[hot moss]

Fighting Shinso in an open area is a lot easier if you have distance on your side.
He can go in the air but has no efficient air stall and his movements are very easy to read. You know he's gonna crash down on you if he's overhead.
Otherwise you can try to catch his landing with some stacked alphas.

Even up close though I don't have too much issue but that's because I go nuts with Space Hop to avoid his alphas lol, and take advantage of moments where he does knock me down, as if he tries to catch my wake up he can get easily punished for it, and keep getting punished

[terse pelican]

after shooting it he has around 2 seconds of recovery time

[tired moth]

ah ok thank thanks

i'd argue he's one of my worst matchups by far

especially if he has the right tuning liek space hop

[hot moss]

Takes some practice
The biggest thing is not to panic

[tired moth]

yh

[terse pelican]

my suggestion at that time was this

[tired moth]

i think i'll be fine if i can manage to knock him down

[tired moth]

ah okkk thanks

yh that would have been a smart play

[hot moss]

I think so far I've only run into 2 Space Hop Shinsos
I didn't really find them too much different to normal Shinsos

In fact one time there was one that was in the air long enough for me to pop a small heal so that was actually beneficial for me pff

[tired moth]

i should have just waited to catch his wakeup when i first gammad him

[terse pelican]

coffee's i think was this

[tired moth]

lol

[tired moth]

yh

[hot moss]

Risky, he might've immediately gone for alpha or even Special on you

[tired moth]

its just i think if i tried that the shinso may have had enough time to alpha me after he woke up

[hot moss]

Pretty much yep

[tired moth]

not unless i just use gamma and circle him

that seems to work most of the time

unless if they jump

[terse pelican]

also this building is shiggy holy sanctuary

[tired moth]

YESSSSSS

I LOVE THIS BUILDING

This and the one with the ladder

[hot moss]

Yeah that's not the most ideal strat, especially against a Space Hop Shinso

[tired moth]

yh true

[hot moss]

I love that building :3

[terse pelican]

btw you can do this here

i once did 600 dmg to a frog who walked up the stairs

[tired moth]

yh i always love doing that

[hot moss]

Alpha stacking 🔥

[terse pelican]

shiggy biggest treasure

so fun deleting people in a second because they walk into 5 alphas at once

[hot moss]

Something I sometimes do is if I see people in a building, I'll use beta then alpha stack through the entry as they try to escape.
The beta makes it harder for people to even see the alphas

[terse pelican]

except when his beta visuals vanish

it just started happening and idk when or why

[hot moss]

True
It happens a lot now
The bug has been around for a few seasons tho

[tired moth]

can alpha go through walls? or atleast attack the other side of a wall? Like lets say an enemy is on the other side of a wall and they're hugging it, and your on the other side and you alpha the wall will the enemy hugging it on the other side still get hit?

[limpid patio]

yes

only some places tho not all

[tired moth]

lol yh i think i always see you trying to do it

[limpid patio]

yeah lol

esp on chaos

[tired moth]

like that building on ua, with the 2 floors and 2 entrances

with the ladder one the outside

if you know what i mean

[limpid patio]

yeah ive hit ppl from there before, sometimes its a bit janky tho because its obv not meant to be intentional

[tired moth]

yh you can see when you alphad the wall here, it affected both sides

[limpid patio]

it sort of helps when you have shadows on high or medium, you can see other peoples shadows

[tired moth]

ahh gotcha

[limpid patio]

from above you

in that room, if that makes sense

[tired moth]

above you?

and you try hit them with alpha?

[limpid patio]

yeah sometimes if you alpha up walls it can slip through floors above it and hit people

its kinda weird to explain

[tired moth]

oh yh

ive seen you do that before

i need to do that more

[limpid patio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5bmWmcQtzA

i forgot i have this unlisted for a few friends but yeah thats his alpha hitting through the ground

its like that in some spots, even on ua island

[ornate glen]

@quartz kestrel can u tag me to ur clip

[hot moss]

I do this quite a lot tbh
It's not something I put much thought into though, but if my beta is on cooldown and I know someone is above me or behind a wall I've often used alpha to hit em that way.
I do it most on UA map tho

[limpid patio]

yeah thats usually what i do to

[hot moss]

I got called a cheater before for Downing a Denki that way :')

[dark stump]

SO REAL

it's literally the freest healing spot ever

anyone who goes into this building with me just dies

you can take full advantage of Beta's vertical spread in here

Even Level 1 Beta, if you are one level above the ground it spreads to people under you

[marble spruce]

this must be so confusing on the receiving end

[hot moss]

Customs where everyone is a maxed out Shiggy in that specific building 👀
It's gonna be lit up like Vegas

[dark stump]

everyone who doesn't have a good PC just crashes on the spot

[subtle minnow]

I've almost died to TS so much

[proper hemlock]

Welcome to the jiggy

https://tenor.com/view/shigaraki-mha-my-hero-academia-mhur-dancing-gif-10205181525454719365

[hot moss]

Genuinely nailed the singing there

[tired moth]

guys genuine question, when was the last time you saw a mt lady go giant mode

cause i genuinely forgot it existed

[proper hemlock]

Yesterday

[tired moth]

oh i havent seen one in so long

[proper hemlock]

I see it decently commonly lol
I love mt lady giant mode + fighting it

Give 350 hp

[limpid patio]

i still use her lol

[terse pelican]

ive seen a giant mt lady today

they are not that rare for me

[jagged flame]

Nah

I just hate Mt Lady because of how broken she was in earlier seasons

[terse pelican]

i love how i remember everyone saying all the broken assaults were bad/mid when the game came out

all might was worse than deku and bakugo
mt lady was d tier according to a lot of people
kendo only good move was her clap

these were all things ive heard back then

[jagged flame]

MT Lady had 2 stomps alpha combo

Which got nerfed

[terse pelican]

no yeah i remember the nightmare this character was

its just that people for some reason thought kendo and mt lady were trash when they both essentiallly had tods

[jagged flame]

She also had 6 stomps

💀

[terse pelican]

also she didnt even knock you down with her alphas

you would take 2 stomps and keep getting shot until you died

[jagged flame]

She was the character that I hated the most

[terse pelican]

meanwhile strike shiggy had 1 gamma

and it travelled nothing at lvl 1

remember when the distance increased with lvl up instead of just damage

and he essentially had no mobility because the grab was the least useful move

since you couldnt even try and grab 2 times to kill through shield

[hot moss]

I could be weird but I love fighting giant Mt Ladys, they are such free food

[marble spruce]

truth

stacking every alpha on her

especially when shes about to destransform

[hot moss]

I often go for the grab when that happens
The animation is funny cuz I grab her as she's still shrinking

[quartz kestrel]

I read this without my glasses and thought it said “ I grab her azz”

[tired moth]

nah these binding cloth guys are actually getting on my nerve

like they're combos and damage is actually insane

and they pull you from so far away

[terse pelican]

nah, alpha stacking on her is funny, she loses her dr at the animation start so she just stays stuck in all of them

[hot moss]

That is true

[terse pelican]

any character that has a very commital animation dies to shiggy

froppy insta res usually is suicide too

instead of hitting the downed guy you can just target her and she will die for it

[hot moss]

Precisely

[tired moth]

Look at where his crosshair is when he fired gamma

And look where i am

and i think we know what happens

[hot moss]

At this point why even have a crosshair

[tired moth]

i swr 🤣

[hot moss]

Tbh I turned mine off for a little while because I didn't need it, but only turned it back on because I couldn't ping things or respond to pings properly which got annoying lol

[hot moss]

We love alpha stacks

[keen spear]

ok i accidently pressed the gambe button and got yellow shigi
how play him?

[jagged flame]

Direct hit with his beta causes a stun

His gamma also causes a stun

Gamma has 2 variations press and hold

[keen spear]

wait really?

[jagged flame]

He's a close range monster

[keen spear]

thatss why im sucking im playing him at range 💀

[jagged flame]

You want to be aggressive using him to maximize his potential

You should learn the trajectory/distance of his beta when it's thrown

[quartz kestrel]

He is like strike denki but harder

[jagged flame]

Because it's really good damage when you land it directly

[keen spear]

im at pro 3 rn and im sucking so i feel like i need a new character lol

[quartz kestrel]

It honestly doesnt get easier than strike denki

[keen spear]

i know but like i dont want to rely on him

[quartz kestrel]

Gamma > alpha 2x > melee 2x > alpha 1-2x

[keen spear]

thats my thing

[keen spear]

add special action and 2 alphas to the start of that and thats how you win

[quartz kestrel]

yeah denki is braindead

assault shiggy has lower dmg but the skill ceiling is higher

Tech shoto is also easy if u have him

[keen spear]

ive been considering playing red shoto

bc he looks like he has alot of potential

[proper hemlock]

He’s super fun do it

[proper hemlock]

Ye tech shoto can hold such a defense it’s basically impenetrable you just need patience

[jagged flame]

His gamma is so annoying

It should have a longer cooldown

It has such a fast cooldown for too much reward

[proper hemlock]

Yeah if you know how to play gamma you basically have it all game

And gamma is basically unstoppable

[keen spear]

whats some good tuning for yellow shigi?

[marble spruce]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8rVCoLK/

[quartz kestrel]

!!!!

[oblique sparrow]

Any cracked shigaraki players dm me clips plz!

[hot moss]

Of which Shiggy?

[oblique sparrow]

Whichever

Just want some saucy clips to do a mini edit to

[hot moss]

Oh pff
I might have a few

[hot moss]

Sent a couple
I hope they're the kinda clips you're looking for ^^'

[dark stump]

A mini edit? You mean like a short or a montage?

[oblique sparrow]

Yes

[oblique sparrow]

I have some cool
Ideas but i dont play shigaraki enough to be saucy

[dark stump]

I see, if I get the chance I'll help 👍

[limpid patio]

so many tech denki/monoma with space hop teams in these lobbys holyyy

alpha spam on buildings

cant figh

[hot moss]

Monoma with Space Hop sounds pretty wasteful ngl

Dude already has a floaty jump and near infinite mobility

[limpid patio]

yeah, they still do it tho because most of these teams are 2 stacking to camp on buildings

is there no way to dodge tech denkis alpha or do you just have to time it very specifically

i manage to dodge 1 but get beamed by the other 3-4 that he shoots

[hot moss]

You can dodge them all but I have no clue of exact timing.
I get lucky when I dodge every shot

[terse pelican]

its very late when the first shot is going to hit

like frames before, and you roll again for good measure

[hot moss]

I see
I might be able to gauge the timing better if I encountered more Tech Denkis. They just don't show up in my lobbies often, and when they do I usually have cover to avoid em anyway

[terse pelican]

if you wanna practice later

i played him the entire ranked climb

he is so stupid now

with his special action up he has essentially 0 seconds inbetween shooting

by the time your shots land youre locked on max lvl again

[hot moss]

Dang
I don't doubt he's strong but his playstyle still seems boring to a lotta people it seems. Just stand n snipe

[terse pelican]

jumping doing that is really funny though

also he at close range got some disgusting stuff

[keen spear]

is there a yellow shigi that can give me a build that can work for the basic disguise coat

[hot moss]

Using my look for that fiend smh...

-# This is a joke dw

[keen spear]

would like crushing PU be good?

bc its a hero strike slot

[hot moss]

True
I counter him though so I guess I've yet to actually see the threat of him lol

[keen spear]

and its also a support slot

[terse pelican]

i dont own him, but this tuning is good on literally everyone that can get kos so

[keen spear]

i suck at the video game tho so im just considering

[terse pelican]

for hero strike what i can see for him:
crushing pu
willpower
maybe if you cant but more iffy
kota finder
resist shock

[keen spear]

im kinda thinking

of waiting for strike kendo

or maybe also trance blow

bc trance blow can be mad annoying

[terse pelican]

assault shiggy doesnt really use melees in his combos

also trance would kinda ruin them

[keen spear]

i am new to this character so idk what to do lol

[hot moss]

Strike Slots are some of the worst tbh

[keen spear]

yeah

but i dont want to use my hero souls

on a new pur for him

[terse pelican]

its like, literally 2 good tunings and kota finder for some

both strike villains suck too

shiggy is ok and dabi is the most situational thing ive ever seen

willpower is a genuine anomaly

[keen spear]

tbh speedy self revive slaps

bc nobody expects you to have it

so they think they have more time than they actually do

[terse pelican]

ive seen both my teammates have it in one match and in 6 downs it activated once

[keen spear]

all im saying is when it works, it works really well honestly

[hot moss]

Yeah, it's just not ideal having such a situational tuning

[keen spear]

but

its funny

which is all that matters in my book

[terse pelican]

then run rapid revenge iida

and max gamma first

[keen spear]

thats really funny

[tired moth]

i didn't know you could get the gamma bug in endgame

like it was working fine the whole game

but then near the end it started cutting off early

[hot moss]

Yep

[tired moth]

No the games actually gone

Trust me

you guys have never experienced a space hop shinso before

if they land a single hit on you

your dead

its just that simple

and there's nothing you can do

as soon as they get a hit on you

its a guaranteed free kill

any of his abilities can stun / grab/ or knock you back

meaning your gonna get knockdowned

and then you die

[quartz kestrel]

Its hard to roll space hop beta after a knockdown

[tired moth]

because he can just alpha you when you wakeup and then do another combo on you

and ur dead

its just that simple

so save your time

and leave your game if you see a space hop shinso

trust me

and this isnt just for shiggy, its for any character

[hot moss]

Nah, I'd win

[tired moth]

Coffee as much as i respect you

You ain't winning my friend

This shinso is a demon

he is actually the true symbol of fear

whenever i see him i feel fear

But then again your tuning build may be able to counteract his

since you both run space hop

But still

you can't win against him 💔

[jagged flame]

You can only retreat

[hot moss]

I mean
I have and I do, idk what else to tell ya. Even good Shinso's aren't a huge struggle for me most of the time, not in a 1v1 anyway.
It's different if they're working with their team

[tired moth]

Okay lemme paint the picture to you. I'm shinso and ur shiggy. I alpha you once and then i do beta. You've taken 270 damage, leaving you wth 330hp left and you get hard knockdown. Now what do you do?

[terse pelican]

i kill you

[tired moth]

in chronological order from after i knock you down

[terse pelican]

i am now aware you exist youre not leaving alive

[tired moth]

okay but what do you do after i knock you down

[terse pelican]

wait for other alpha, roll, and attack you rinse and repeat

also keep distance because you cant beta

[tired moth]

i will most likely wait for you to make an attack

and then catch you with alpha

and then do another beta and your basically dead

[terse pelican]

then we will literally just both stand until the heat death of the universe

[tired moth]

not unless i fire an alpha after your i frames are gone

and then your dead

[terse pelican]

??? i literally said id wait for a alpha to roll

[hot moss]

I don't recover. Being Shinso you'd likely try to catch my wakeup, you get denied that and I immediately punish you for it.

If you don't try to catch my recovery, I will still slow recover then sudden Space Hop over you to throw off your sense of aim when you try to alpha again, then immediately Special downward to quickly land an air melee at your face into grounded melees into gamma, then the turns would've tabled.

[tired moth]

trust me you can't roll a shinso alpha at such close range

and if you did i'll just fire another alpha and that will defo get you

and then again ur dead

[terse pelican]

close range? shinso beta sends you flying

[tired moth]

wdym?

I wasnt talking abt shinso beta

[terse pelican]

you literally said you get hit by alpha beta before

meaning there is a good distance inbetween us

[tired moth]

As in you would get sent flying after my beta?

[terse pelican]

yes? because thats how shinso beta works?

it sends people away?

[tired moth]

i mean it doesnt give much distance

nah not really

he can easily catch up to you

[terse pelican]

youre talking about shinso not god calm down

he isnt unbeatable

not even close

[tired moth]

no trust me

shinso beta doesnt send you flying

[tired moth]

look at this clip

when he beta me

there was barely any distance between us after he did beta

or anything that changes anything

[tired moth]

but here's the thing

i wont try catch your wakeup

i instead do space hop too

and then catch you with alpha

and even if you sa me, it won't do anythhing cause i can just recover and alpha you

his kit is just busted like that

[terse pelican]

where he sends you no distance

[hot moss]

Bud. The second your feet leave the ground after me I'm backflipping directly over your head and skeddadling.
Like I said, I've faced Space Hop Shinso's. I know how to work around them

[tired moth]

i think if you do beta in the air then it doesn't send you flying as much

but either way he can still run towards you as your getting sent flying

and then alpha you again

cause of the range

[tired moth]

But his alpha beats every move 😭

if you try skeddale your getting alphad

[hot moss]

No.

[tired moth]

if you try gamma your getting alphad

if you try beta your getting alphad

if you try sa your getting alphad

you can't escape without getting alphad

thats how he gets you in another combo

and then kills you

and he can still use sa

[terse pelican]

you can distance so easily

[hot moss]

I'm not stupid, I wouldn't skedaddle without keeping track on his movement the whole time.
Dodging his alpha is very easy unless you're literally not looking at him for some reason

[terse pelican]

also im doing this clip in somewhere with 0 cover

thats not happening most of the time

[tired moth]

hmm i see

alright fair enough

i never actually properly tried escaping

i always try gamma him or something

and get punished

but i will try get better clips to tell you guys what i'm talking about next time

[hot moss]

It just seems like he's a personal struggle for you which is fine, everyone has characters they feel like they can't do anything against.
For me it's Cementoss. It's always by sheer luck when I get a down on that brick

[tired moth]

yeah cementoss is a annoying for me to fight against as well

but i don't come across many cementosses

[hot moss]

That's a good thing. The only reason he hasn't been more nerfed is because he's not popular.

[marble spruce]

shiggy alpha should insta destroy cementoss alphas

i wanna see that cement crumble

real talk tho i find cementoss even hard on super mobile characters, he has so much vertical mobility compared to others

very hard to keep up with

[terse pelican]

worst part is how pillaring gets rapids off him

because it staggers them when they are too close to him

he essentially can run and shoot on his feet and melee characters cant really do much against it

also, what do you think about these i made for videos on tuning sections

i will probably post them all somewhere as a summary for people to understand them better

tuning is so cryptic ingame

how are people supposed to know stuff like this one

[hot moss]

They make my eyes happy

Simple yet informative

[terse pelican]

game literally states, increases sa reload when you down an opponent

not by how much or how long it lasts

[hot moss]

Yeah but I like how these ones look

[terse pelican]

i tried copying the ingame font too

wouldnt say its a 1 to 1 but its still cool

[marble spruce]

all very clean

[terse pelican]

i made 9 already for what i was gonna use in my vid

will eventually do them all but not today

took a while

i think the most cryptic tuning info is blue bakugo

it does way too much stuff and no info on it

[stiff lark]

i,m finishing up my assualt shiggy guide and i,m still thinking whether i,m doing it on youtube or tiktok. tiktok i have made a few videos thats gotten some good views or youtbe where i have no vids but with this pretty cool thumbnail.

[jagged flame]

Throw debris

[hot moss]

Thow debris

[jagged flame]

Do yall think status effects like burn and decay should be able to down an opponent?

[stiff lark]

100 percent it only does like 10 damage so it would make it more threatning

[hot moss]

Maybe not decay
Just because it spreads to other people. Getting a whole team low and having them die just because one of them got hit would be a bit ehhhh

[stiff lark]

but it would be realistic and funny tho

[hot moss]

True true

[quartz kestrel]

Nah both burn and decay are fine

If they downed it would be not fun

[quartz kestrel]

Strike shiggy with 3 gammas

[hot moss]

Tell me more 👀

[tired moth]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

FINALLYYYYYY

I GOT A SHIGGY PUR

[limpid patio]

All migh

[limpid patio]

Nice, im not sure what his tuning choices are but pretty sure he's got one with rapid and assault, which ppl like to use

[jagged flame]

Long Coat (dangerous) has the same special tuning and better regular tuning slots

[terse pelican]

i mean considering they said they got "a" shiggy pur they might not have other options

[jagged flame]

I actually don't have that outfit

Don't have awakened outfit either

[terse pelican]

i just noticed i have every single shiggy skin except that one

also cyberpunk heat because i didnt get ace

[terse pelican]

just looked and they are reversed

also the slots arent even bad

imagine shiggy had a skin with assault villain slot

[jagged flame]

The devs aren't that stupid

[marble spruce]

lol

wasnt there a skin that had assault villain special tuning slot and a assault villain regular tuning slot

so you just couldn't complete it

not for shiggy for for another character

[terse pelican]

idk, would take a while to check it

[dark stump]

It's actually the other way around, the Suit variant has better slots

[jagged flame]

Oh yeah

[dark stump]

In the suit one you can do Double Gamma, Triple Alpha, and once HP attack

The coat one has one less strike slot than the suit, so you're either doing Triple Alpha, or Double Alpha and One HP attack

The game unfortunately didn't give me suit, but hey I got Awakened so I better be happy with what I have

[jagged flame]

I don't have awakened and suit costumes

[dark stump]

Same, I only had the crystals to roll in the costume banner once and got Awakened from it so I'm happy

[jagged flame]

I'm currently using his Long Coat (Hero) Style

Using Divine Protection and Space Hop

[marble spruce]

i wouldnt mind another shiggy pur when i roll for kendo qss

i like having awakened but i also want my shiggy to look dapper sometimes, not homeless

[jagged flame]

I use his Evil Knight (Fancy) costume cus it looks cool

If you ever see this color in a match it's me

Don't see anyone else using it

[dark stump]

It feels like the people who have that costume don't even play Shiggy, cuz I rarely see the base knight costume

[jagged flame]

I wouldn't say so

I remember this costume was on rate up on a rerun banner for Assault shiggy

[dark stump]

Whether I see Shiggy it's either Default, Cyberpunk, Awakened, or Long Coat

[jagged flame]

I was also trying to get AFO Evil Knight costume also

Or whatever it's called

I didn't get it

[dark stump]

Dang, at least you got the Shiggy one

[terse pelican]

i started using it as layer after i got it on all might banner

though not for tuning whatsoever

[hot moss]

I wear it on certain occasions

[tired moth]

yh the only 2 i wanted 🙏

now i just need awakening pur as my layer

but thats prob in another milenia

[tired moth]

cooked

[tired moth]

Also coffee can you still do gamma into jump sa after they recover with space hop? I thought you could only do it with a neutral standing jump so how would it work with space hop?

[dark stump]

It works the same, but you have to do it a lot more quickly

Like instantly after pressing jump

[hot moss]

^

[tired moth]

ah i see

what should i do for the last slot here?

i was thinking of the present mic one cause you get 2 buffs

[hot moss]

HP attack is always good
Buffs every attack to an extent so there's no reason not to have at least one of em

[tired moth]

Ah okay

idk which tech villain regular tuning to use

i don't know whether i want better reload speed for sa or beta or gamma

but beta seems the most useful

[final saffron]

Don’t tell the opps but this is like this is my guilty pleasure character

I’m a support player at heart most people playing this game don’t deserve support

And just making a single line that deletes someone in an instant is amazing

Having free space with his beta feels wonderful

And although it drops a lot when his gamma hits it HITS

Also free unnerfed embrittlement go brrrrr

Fun starts to drain from my eyes when I’m facing and ochaco or froppy though

He would be a Main of mine if his voice wasn’t nails on a chalkboard and had actual sauce

[hot moss]

His voice is peak
Such slander smh

[final saffron]

He needs a bottle of water

And maybe some cough drops

[marble spruce]

use sub

[final saffron]

No

I want his later dub voice

[hot moss]

Same tho

[jagged flame]

You're not high enough Ochaco

[hollow salmon]

i got the same one gz

[hollow salmon]

wp

i have tested space hop myself the last 4 days

played a lot

and i think its nearly the same as wallrunner - in some situations even better - for example getting up to ochako gamma

i never had any problems with space hop - to climp up to buildings

it gives me momentum in the air and with special you can move freely around

i dont feel like i need wallrunner

[jagged flame]

Exactly

I don't use wallrunner

Space Hop is all that you need

Just my preference

Well on shigaraki

[hollow salmon]

good example why i love it

[hollow salmon]

same

i dont even care whats better

i think people should give it a try

[hot moss]

I use Wall Runner primarily for the jump tech which does what Space Hop alone cannot.

Both together is peak

[jagged flame]

I've gotten used to space hop

[hot moss]

Me too
I just had to get better at reacting quicker to secondary input after using it

[hot moss]

Also W Asshiggy kill

[hollow salmon]

you mean the "ida jump" tech? jumping vertical high

[hot moss]

Yeah but not just vertical.
Rather using it to launch my jumps further and faster in general in more erratic manoeuvres in a fight.

[hollow salmon]

ah i get it

that would be the only reason i would go for wallrunner as well

im testing out rapid almight tuning rn

since i play passively early and lategame