Momo Yaoyorozu

[native niche]

Storm doesn't mean you not able to be in it. Map will always be available

It's when your 1 green hp left thats when you lose options

[native niche]

Yalls be wild fighting out there in the front lines

👀 👀 👀 👀 👀

With all these characters out here thats crazy work

[copper ocean]

Momo's alpha is too valuable for me to stay in the back lines and have my main focus be shooting cannons, imo.

Her beta is kind of a hit or a miss. The stationary beta is awesome, but the charge is something I'd only use in certain matchups. I find that it leaves me more open than I'd like to be. Sometimes baiting a dodge roll with the shield is great, but some characters can just outright punish her for using the charge.

[feral mist]

Same

[copper ocean]

Give Momo an animation cancel on her beta too 🗣️

[feral mist]

Facts lol

[median fractal]

I find Momo’s Beta to be especially effective against Assault Ochaco. Once you break her guard or put her in a tight spot, they almost always result to their spinning beta and Momo’s shield puts it to a complete stop. Then they only have 2 options to be accounted for.

[cyan quarry]

^ it's also the perfect counter to tech Todoroki and rapid all might, kinda.

[copper ocean]

You can hit rapid All Might twice with your beta while he's armoured from his alpha.
I swear they don't even care about getting hit, they just wanna ora ora ora. 😭

[median fractal]

Everytime I try that they dodge and suplex me lol. I guess I need to start the charge closer to them.

[cyan quarry]

They know it has no knockdown from most attacks so they're normally trying to do a war of attrition of "I can kill you faster than you can kill me"

[cyan quarry]

You don't have to charge, you can stop short when they're about to jump and begin swinging your alpha to stun them.

Beta can be used to bait folks in

[median fractal]

Yee I need to get better at that. Thanks for the tip

[cyan quarry]

Btw;
Strike Kendo's alpha is literally just momo's alpha with power creep.

Hits 3 times before knockdown

Stuns with every hit

Does 44 DMG to start, 60 DMG at max.

It's literally just the same attack but better range

Oh and I guess kendos has a charged variant on top of it.

[median fractal]

She wants to be us so bad

[feral mist]

I'm still upset I couldn't get her

I have to spend $300 if I had to pity her so I just spent $99 to pity Ibara's yukata instead

[median fractal]

I tried to get her but the Almight voice lines had other plans

[feral mist]

I couldn't get rapid AM either

Ever since assault ocha release I haven't been able to get a new character/quirk set almost as if fate itself is telling me to stop gambling (I finally listened )

[modern edge]

Compress should have gamma’d on wake up

[viral lynx]

I have both and don't use either of them much :p

I mean I play around with strike kendo but rapid all might is just there for tuning

[feral mist]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-it-should've-been-me-family-guy-gif-6828243286393193549

[viral lynx]

I prefer my favourite strategist

[feral mist]

https://tenor.com/view/gon-crying-angry-punch-punch-ground-gif-13729174246823696329

[viral lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/bhna-mha-my-hero-academia-yaoyorozu-momo-gif-1904229811956972456

[random moth]

Real

[feral mist]

Way to rub salt on the wound

I get it I ain't rolling again until I have enough to pity

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-plankton-alright-i-get-it-i-get-it-enough-gif-19558825

[median fractal]

@feral mist Don’t worry we can suffer together

[feral mist]

Ayyy lesgoo

[median fractal]

When you realize 2 years in you still only have a single Momo outfit

[feral mist]

And I'm over here complaining about having one on my PS account for a couple of months

I should be more grateful

[median fractal]

Nah dude it’s tough times out here

But we shall prevaillll

[feral mist]

Lol

[cyan quarry]

Oh it cropped weirdly

[native niche]

If valuable then keep right? Make sense 👌

If it useless it expendable

[feral mist]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-steals-your-meme-gif-25158241

[north ravine]

If anything, at least her alpha has always been consistent at its job

[random moth]

Unlike cough cough bugged beta cough cough

[modern edge]

Just fix it

[north ravine]

Cannon also has a flaw that hasn't been addressed; if you set the cannon directly over someone, it can fail to hit them.

[north ravine]

: I'm feeling tired, maybe I should rest in he-
: PREPARE FOR TROUBLE! Concusses Shigaraki
: Defies the laws of physics and warps into the tent AND MAKE IT DOUBLE!

[sterile zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-bomb-explosion-boom-gif-18347534567261621962

[ionic oyster]

Don’t usually clip these kinds of kills but like it was kinda satisfying and it was a storm camping assault uraraka (Messing around on an alt)

I also seem to have a habit of running into walls….

[modern edge]

What's the fastest way to cancel beta?

[feral mist]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-neat-thing-that's-the-neat-part-invincible-gif-3109787441708074597

[weary pond]

https://tenor.com/view/you-really-gotta-commit-to-it-sherri-runck-that-'90s-show-you-need-to-devote-yourself-you-have-to-be-dedicated-gif-15540905749924036011

[north ravine]

Best strategy is just ending the move early; you can't really cancel it

[modern edge]

Well yeah I've been rolling to end it but I cldve sworn there were waster ways to get out of it

[north ravine]

Momo has no fancy tricks for animation cancelling on any of her moves.

[viral lynx]

For Momo's beta you can also jump in front of it as it's being placed down, which isn't a cancel but is also useful ig

[median fractal]

Yeee it’s good for getting into buildings while blocking off the entrance

[median fractal]

You can’t really cancel it, but by ending the beta early you can bait out dodges from opponents and punish them for it. It’s like abusing the move’s predictability against them.

[median fractal]

The most stressful finale I’ve ever had

[cyan quarry]

I still don't know why the beta refuses to work properly half the time.

(Also didn't use beta against the Todoroki since I thought he was planning to jump over me)

GET OFF ME
(I still don't know why placing cannon into the shield seems to attract them like bait to fish)

bag.

[feral mist]

Can someone check for me if Momo's lvl 4 beta block Overhaul's lvl 9 gamma?

[weary pond]

Yes it blocks it

[north ravine]

As long as the beta is taking the hit from the front from the traveling part of the gamma, yea

If you're within range of the semicircle that he creates, no amount of positioning will save you much like Assault Kirishima gamma

[feral mist]

Ah ok thanks

I keep mistaking it for having the same affect as strike shigi's alpha where it has to be at lvl 9 in order to block it

[exotic cargo]

How does a build with wall runner and iron fist sound for Momo?

[modern edge]

Iron fist is kinda dooky

Only 5% buff

Wall runner is great

Anyways. Do speed cards affect canon firerate? Anyone know?

[exotic cargo]

Nope

[feral mist]

Wall Runner is great. I heard iron fist is 5% buff so not worth it

[feral mist]

I don't think they do

[north ravine]

Honestly, there was no real reason for the devs to make Iron Fist so... Mediocre.

Embrittlement

• 10% Defense Down.
• Makes EVERYONE deal more damage to the target. Allies and enemies make the victim(s) suffer.
• No cooldown; can be applied to multiple targets quickly.
• 15 Second Duration at level 11

Iron Fist

• 5% Attack Up (Self).
• Only benefits the user.
• Cooldown based melee; at levels 10/11, has a 13/10 second cooldown but this means you need to personally reactivate it at the right moment.
• 10 Second Duration always, so it at least allows R/SR Outfits to utilize it (like once a minute or so).

The worst part is that Iron Fist is Strike Hero orientated; it is competing for usage (in my opinion) one of the most contested special tuning skill types of all.

It outclasses anti-status perks and some of the weakest perks obviously... But it's also competing with some insane perks too like Kota Finder, Crushing PU Charge, PU Intensified, Will Power and Trance Blow.

[median fractal]

Is there anyone here named SereneLily? If so you are awesome and obliterated me.

[north ravine]

It's unfortunate, but Momo just isn't the type of character who has the luxury of throwing away special tuning for a very lukewarm reward.

Come to think of it, is there even a reason for ANY character to run this perk?

The value of this perk is 💩

[feral mist]

@woeful fern

[woeful fern]

😭 I'm sorry that I obliterated you

[median fractal]

Yooooo dude your awesome

I was the Momo you hunted down lol

[woeful fern]

Wallrunning Momo Comrades

[median fractal]

Indeed

[north ravine]

I think once I get enough strike Kendo data I'll slap her Iron Fist perk on my Fixer build

[median fractal]

Caught in 4k

[north ravine]

Hmm actually nvm

It's basically a 5-7 damage increase after doing the math for cannons

[feral mist]

See if that Mirio was with you from the get go you would have stood a chance

[knotty rampart]

Oh hey it's me!

[woeful fern]

Momo with wall running and health? I'm sorry I have to hunt ya.

[knotty rampart]

I was the kiri lol

[feral mist]

You did good teamwork with the Momo

Unfortunately most folks who play this game forget that teamwork is essential in a battle royale

Hence why I hate solo q

[knotty rampart]

We're agency buds me and Lily

[feral mist]

That's awesome

[woeful fern]

who needs teamwork when you have canon fire in a small building

[feral mist]

Most ppl can punish you for that thanks to the cannon nerf

[north ravine]

More like they wakeup and use the I-frames to run away after only losing their GP

[feral mist]

That too but the smart teams won't

[median fractal]

I was trying to stop you before you activated the armor lol

[knotty rampart]

All good kinda feel bad you got in my triple gamma kill a game later. Oops ^^'

[median fractal]

I was wondering what happened there lol

[knotty rampart]

@median fractal

That

[median fractal]

Dude our team had just finished fighting a team with a Strike Kendo. None of us had any health and the storm was on our backs lol.

[knotty rampart]

I'm so sorry I just wanted Lily back lol

[median fractal]

@knotty rampart

[knotty rampart]

Huh

[median fractal]

No problemmoo. That’s just how the game be😎

[knotty rampart]

OH GOD YOU DIDN'T EVEN SEE ME

[median fractal]

Yea it happened in the corner of my eye. I just imploded and accepted my fate

[knotty rampart]

I thought y'all had the dabi cause I went to the building to hide. I saw 1, 2, pause, 3, team gone

[median fractal]

Nah that Dabi was antagonizing us most of the game

[knotty rampart]

Well, I took care of him lmao

[feral mist]

You're the second person I've seen run wall runner on Kiri

Interesting

Cuz I run wall runner on him as well

[knotty rampart]

REALLY?!

[feral mist]

Yea

But I mainly use strike kiri

[knotty rampart]

I run wall with Electrification

[feral mist]

Nice

I use Warp heal with it simply because I'm used to playing support so I wanted to support my team indirectly

[cyan quarry]

Actually sub, speaking of I-frames you got so.. I guess I should say lucky.

The fact your shield was invisible threw me off hard.

I had planned to either roll if I saw shield, or run back into my cannon to put you into a temporary knockdown if you attempted to chase that hard

I got botched hard.
(Not that I probably would've escaped. You seemed REAL adamant on chasing from the very start of the round)

Also that amazing prediction as to where I was going to land, that I'll give props to.

[viral lynx]

The invisible shield is so cursed 💔

I hate when that happens

[cyan quarry]

Is it common? That's one of the first times I've seen it

[viral lynx]

Not too much but it's been happening more recently

For me at least

[cyan quarry]

Interesting, but ye it definitely surprised me as I thought he was just running until I got whacked

[stiff meadow]

I pray for a banner featuring momo next season

need a skin with wall runner 🙏

[north ravine]

If anything, Momo's beta shield has just been buggier than ever

You can't trust it to even exist as a wall half the time since it may just poof out of existence without an animation

[viral lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-meme-anime-react-anime-reaction-arakawa-gif-8258439823509290590

[north ravine]

Yea the shield not appearing is just another problem with the shield since it still functions as normal while running; your only visual cue at that point is Momo's hand positioning + the lack of sprint clouds.

[cyan quarry]

I made a whole compilation of those moments..

But the invisible shield was new to me

[north ravine]

If anything, I was more chasing hard at the start because I had rapid cards and simply didn't want to hold onto them in case they're useful for the rest of the match.

[north ravine]

Honestly, I trust Momo's beta less than any other move in the game

[cyan quarry]

I trust Tsuyu's alpha a bit less. But absolutely valid

I had more examples but I think I deleted the other compilation I had

[north ravine]

Quick tip for making the beta function a bit better; rapidly adjust your movement left and right so the game has to update the direction you're running, and hopefully continue hitting people.

Running in a straight line is no longer reliable to make the beta function

[cyan quarry]

I've tried that, as I got that advice from Ice(?) before but it seems to do a coinflip regardless, or just my unluckiness

I have the luckiest bags, but the unluckiest actions

[north ravine]

It's just something worth trying to alleviate a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place

Seriously, how is a character moving with a shield so inconsistent?

Slap a big rectangle hitbox on her and call it a day

[cyan quarry]

Ye I sent it to Byking directly, and even made a video for them that they responded to.

Though I haven't noticed much else

I mean at least we aren't like kurogiri, they did one change since his release and he has never played right ever since

[north ravine]

I mean... At least Kurogiri has tools to maintain himself as being usable consistently

Our special action is random, our beta is random...

And our mobility is basically zero

The reason we don't see many other people complain about it is because no one else is really playing Momo

I hope Byking actually decides to fix this, but knowing them they like to let the problems slow cook for a few months at a time.

[cyan quarry]

And then when they do, they say "oh nerf her, she's still really strong." when the main talking point is people standing still in an area and getting too close to her.

[north ravine]

"Nerf Momo, I shouldn't have been destroyed for my bad decisions!"

The decision:

[cyan quarry]

Which our downfall was when they gave us that random buff to cannons which GENUINELY fueled so much hate

We would've probably been fine but they went "mmm, lets make her cannons untouchable."

[north ravine]

The only game changing buffs were the range and durability, but the devs only seem to have failed basic counting

1, 10, 100

Buff Momo's range from 10 to 100, and buff the cannon durability from 1 hit to 100 hits

[cyan quarry]

^ I'd say the buff to the cannon's health was insane since now she can place her cannons in Shigaraki destruction and be fine, and Tsuyu players just can't do anything to destroy them.

[north ravine]

If anything, Momo's cannons are durable enough to actually soak Assault Ochaco's alpha projectile

And STILL fire

Like wut we just didn't want Shoto special action being enough to break the cannons

[cyan quarry]

Yeah this shouldn't be allowed.

Funny enough her cannons are actually more durable than her shield rn

[weary pond]

nejire hado needs her whole alpha count to destroy the canons but eve n then they despawn before she can haha

[north ravine]

At least I can trust the cannons to not /kill themselves

Meanwhile my beta shield can't even mainain its existence when I attempt to use it to at least obscure my hitbox while opening the big box

[north ravine]

Nobody except like Shigaraki's betas can actually break the cannons before they're finished firing

Or like AFO charged alpha

[cyan quarry]

My favorite trick is still placing down a beta, and aiming the cannons into it. People love jumping into your shield for some reason

Which is what I tried doing to you in that clip I shared, but the beta being invisible clouded my judgement

[weary pond]

Sheesh dud this is a prime example of overtuning an ability

[cyan quarry]

Prime example was hawks beta on release.

Momos cannons punished slow reactions or chasing

[north ravine]

Using Momo's beta as a means of triggering the cannonball explosion is a nice strategy, but then I'd need to trust the shield to not despawn

Or wanting to trap someone inside of a building failing because my shield decided it can't be placed there

[cyan quarry]

I mainly meant as a way to shield the cannon, so they don't know which way its aimed. One of my recent clips of it.

[weary pond]

I'm talking about the strength of the canons, that they are stronger than her shield

[north ravine]

Oh, blocking the visual of the cannon. Not a bad idea, but most people are reactionary to the cannon sound.

[north ravine]

Only time the cannons could be argued to be weaker was pre-nerf beta

[cyan quarry]

That's what I'll disagree on, I swear they become tone deaf the second they hear the shield go down.

[north ravine]

Hard to compete against 110% invulnerability.

[cyan quarry]

It worked so often and they just try to rush me down regardless of what I did

[weary pond]

Guys, im saying when placed down the canons can tank more than the shield since they buffed the health of her canons 🙃 not the function or past seasons

her shield used to be unbreakable

[north ravine]

Well, odds are nobody is ever going to level the beta to 9 to make it have the good durability

[weary pond]

when placed down

[north ravine]

It was more of the fact that Momo and her allies were treated as "enemies" by the shield so they didn't have increased damage to break it

Now, Momo is more likely to accidentally bust her shield with cannonfire or can instantly break her stationary beta by running through with her 2nd beta shield

Same sort of situation with like Shoto's ice walls or Cementoss' cement; they can break their objects with like a single air melee or something

[cyan quarry]

Which being honest I do like the change to shield that lets allies break them.
So it's easier to get out of corners/places if you need to rapidly escape

[weary pond]

ok i was just saying her canons health got overtuned imo

[north ravine]

It's more of an anti-trolling measure.

[cyan quarry]

Oh no, sorry, no one is disagreeing with you there. I think
Their health is crazy

[weary pond]

hahaha

Her alpha used to be so huge i miss it

[cyan quarry]

Guitar rift as the storm rapidly closes in.

[cyan quarry]

Do you prefer the modern alpha where she can actually aim it at folks, or the old one where you were stuck at a specific angle?

[north ravine]

The modern alpha is what it should've always been. Having to jump to even get a controlled direction was irritating

[cyan quarry]

^ Especially when trying to fight Nejire

[north ravine]

They likely didn't include it for balance reasons considering they slapped like 8 to 10 ammo on it

and the game never really had as much reason for you to look into the sky since only like Iida could really "fly"

Well more like a handful of characters only really got that high up

[weary pond]

Now

[north ravine]

It no longer feels like trying to use a fly swatter IRL

Now it's like a fly swatter in a video game

[weary pond]

My favorite thing to do with momo. Denying them an exit

[cyan quarry]

Btw subarashi what are the tunings you normally run on Momo?

[weary pond]

Or just denying them in general

[north ravine]

This is the one I've been using as of late.

[cyan quarry]

I have no clue what you're talking about

[north ravine]

Casual Combat was made during a time of not having Yukata Momo, and also no layered tuning. I swapped to using the Fancy Fantasy for a good while until I saw Fixer's potential.

[cyan quarry]

Ah I see.

[weary pond]

Nice builds

[north ravine]

If anything, I value just utilizing Momo's strongest traits to their fullest potential rather than trying to give her something she just lacks.

Wall Runner and Space Hop/Spiraling Leap can only do so much to bridge the mobility disparity between literally everything else.

[cyan quarry]

These are the main 2 I have.

I'm surprised you don't use yukata fancy or dangerous, with those good regular tunings

I don't have a screenshot of my third apparently

[north ravine]

Yukata Dangerous would've been what I ran instead of Casual Combat if I had access to it at the time.

[weary pond]

Spiraling leap is my fave tuning in the game

[north ravine]

It's basically the same special tuning synergy, except the normal tuning isn't garbage (and also I was more naive and everyone was trying to understand tuning more).

[cyan quarry]

Also I have this one but never used it

[north ravine]

Yea, I kinda wish to avoid situations like that with the PUR chips since we only get like 2 PUR builds a season

[cyan quarry]

I want to use wall runner more but I hate getting clipped on literally every object in the game

[north ravine]

and with how much I like my Fixer cannons, I think I'll pass on trying to get used to wall runner.

[cyan quarry]

I hope her next outfit has a strong tuning fit, though idk when that might ever be

[weary pond]

I wasted like 3 full pur builds, only if they allowed us to make builds in customs to try out

[north ravine]

Bro what do you mean she's one of the most blessed characters in this game for outfits.

[cyan quarry]

Tuning wise, to allow hero blue and villain green

[north ravine]

Rapid/Support Villain special tuning?

[cyan quarry]

For Iida and either compress or kurogiri tuning

[north ravine]

Warp heal is something I've wanted to explore ngl

[cyan quarry]

I use it a lot and love it.

[north ravine]

But my friends don't really use Revenge abilities

[weary pond]

Me too! On iida though

i dont have his shinobi outift sadly

[cyan quarry]

You take a tiny bit of DMG and you can basically heal your allies by about a third of their health or shield for free

[weary pond]

He would be best support imo

[north ravine]

Considering the amount of potions Momo has access to, it can help turn the bad special action rolls into mini team heals

[cyan quarry]

Mhm

And I wouldn't need to waste a full heal if they're only trying to storm stall out, just the little assistance can go a long way

And it's useful in scenarios where you're the one stuck in storm

[north ravine]

Honestly, this tech would prove interesting for stalling if not for how strenuous it is.

Momo can move a decent amount herself

[weary pond]

Does support role affect the amount of heals from green cards?

[north ravine]

Potions recover 10% more per support ally on the team

[cyan quarry]

Yeah, full heals and small potions heal about 10% more.

It's probably the weakest of the special role abilities

[north ravine]

I don't think it applies to a card effect

Those are always 10 HP per tick

[north ravine]

Nah I think the Rapid effect is the weakest; only becomes noticeable on a triple rapid team.

[ionic oyster]

WTF

[weary pond]

oh ok thx, it should honestly

[cyan quarry]

I still don't know how tf ice uses wall runner as effectively as he does, I always get the [wub wub wub] effect on almost every wall I try to run up

[north ravine]

Wall runner is one of those practice things and you just got to have the natural skill to make it work

[north ravine]

Melee mashing; walk off a ledge while trying to use your ground melee and then rapidly mash the melee button once you leave the ground.

[weary pond]

I feel like there is hidden tech on ledges with combos that has not been explored yet .

[cyan quarry]

I've always called that the crouch run

Or crouch dash

[ionic oyster]

That’s interesting

[north ravine]

You need a verrry high button tapping speed to maintain it

I think 9-10 melee inputs per second

[weary pond]

Need that gambling button smashing lol

[ionic oyster]

WHAT

I CANT DO THAT

[cyan quarry]

You can if you change your button layout

[north ravine]

Oh, and aim assist also can affect your movement too

[ionic oyster]

I know they all think ur hacking or smt😭

[north ravine]

Nah this can be done with pretty much any character, and I'm a switchie.

[north ravine]

The only hack is skill issue at that point

[weary pond]

they all like heck nah he floating let me melee him

[ionic oyster]

💔 😭

[north ravine]

If anything, this is probably the only real tech that I wish was more consistent

[cyan quarry]

I love how everyone decided to use this tech on overhaul for some reason

[ionic oyster]

I mean he literally has NO movement other than that tbh

[north ravine]

Overhaul has one of the strongest air melees with good enough horizontal air movement and low vertical height.

[ionic oyster]

Would this work with kendo?

[north ravine]

Momo's air melee by comparison is too slow to chain it into itself, and it hard knockdowns.

[cyan quarry]

Do you not remember the Kendo airlines?

[north ravine]

The double air melee or the melee mashing?

[ionic oyster]

I mean og kendo

[weary pond]

Yup i have seen an overhaul just melee jump melee jump and i couldn't even catch up to him

[north ravine]

Also it can be combo'd into his ground melee

Sometimes

[cyan quarry]

Oh no no, it was a big joke in S1, where you could easily fly with her melee if you had a blue card equipped

[north ravine]

For melee mashing, if the character's intial part of their jab 1 doesn't have enough movement it'll be hard to actually move around like I was doing for Overhaul

Present mic for example struggles a LOT with melee mashing since he only moves forward after raising up his leg, which doesn't happen in that animation.

[weary pond]

what button do you have for melee, if you dont mind

[north ravine]

The switch standard layout, isn't it Y?

[cyan quarry]

I believe so, then again I've switched my controls around a bit.

Like my jump is the left joystick pointed down,

[weary pond]

You just really good at that then

[cyan quarry]

To be fair, the tech probably isn't going to help you out much unless you want to pull a "follow me off this cliff!" and attempt to juke out someone right behind you

[weary pond]

ok ok i am no longer going to try master it .

[livid hill]

What’s the appropriate distance you should be taking with momo in team fights?

[weary pond]

I mean this is hard question to answer. She excels in both areas really well..
(Up/Close, Long/Mid Range
3 things I think you should take into consideration and some factors.
Are
•Where you land at on the map you are playing on
•Who your teammates are playing as
•What your playstyle is
•The characters you are up against
•As well as setting up high ground to assist your teammates and take advantage of other fights (aka 3rd partying)

Personally, I play up close with high sense and I do sometimes take a chill pill and get high ground to assist my teammates from afar with heals. But more than often I am brawling

I did 6 points lol , just really the type of map,teammate characters they choose, and your playstyle. If you are playing low sense maybe up close up isn't the best option .

[north ravine]

Momo is a reactionary character; she isn't going to be the one choosing the encounters due to her low mobility overall. She has tools to handle close quarters and long range, but suffers tremendously in the middle-range, vertical encounters.

I would say a lot of your positioning should take into account your allies.

• For slower or more vulnerable allies who need proper positioning, Momo can handle the front to ward off threats for a bit or serve as a distraction/combo setter.
• For faster characters who have a lot of enemy aggro, Momo specializes in using cannonfire to help punish and eliminate threats quickly.

[humble glade]

unranked go for fights as much as you want
ranked go for fights as much as you want, just have an escape route and/or good position and game sense to know what fights you'll win
customs/high level gameplay play passively

[north ravine]

...Why mention unranked/ranked as if the playstyle varied? Both of them require you to have an escape route.

[humble glade]

distance doesnt really matter you can go for gamma spam or start boxing

[humble glade]

there is nothing to lose in unranked (could say the same for ranked also) but i think new momo's should use it for warmup or improving at fighting

[north ravine]

Well anyway, if you have a friend or somebody you pair up with often... Figure out what their character has that compliments or clashes with Momo, and then you can decide your position in fights off of that to an extent

For example, if my ally is running Assault Kirishima, I will generally box the enemy and then let them come in for the combo finisher, whether it be a beta or gamma.

If he is under attack or dueling a fellow close quarters character, I'll provide cannonfire at/around my ally to make it harder for the enemy to approach.

[median fractal]

Don’t mind me just felt like posting this

[humble glade]

cool

[north ravine]

Or in the case of my ally being Strike Shigaraki, I will actually just "drop" the combo after staggering the enemy for a bit and let the alphas/betas pile on damage

If your ally is Cementoss for some reason, you basically can't do much of anything without him getting in everybody's way

So you can only really sit back and cannon at the spots the enemy is boxed around

[humble glade]

?

as a momo you can choose to cannon spam but you should be stunlocking to help the cementoss land alphas

[north ravine]

That's if they don't obscure your movements to the point you can reach the enemy

[weary pond]

Slow alphing, then slow meleeing an enemy whilst a teammate is landing attacks with no knockdown is PEAK momo

[humble glade]

this basically but with cementoss

no need to melee just keep them in stunlock

[north ravine]

I don't really play often or at all with Cementoss allies in the first place, it's mostly just a negative experience.

[weary pond]

I love doing it with assault all might and strike shigi

[humble glade]

i have 0 problems with cementoss or synergy with any other character

just move around cementoss' pillars

wall runner nullifies any inconvience and personally they give you free cover if they alpha, and its something to wall run on and propel yourself forward somewhere

[copper ocean]

Momo's shield if you breathe on it wrong

[livid hill]

Gotcha I’ll keep all this in mind

[cyan quarry]

I have a few also

[north ravine]

We need a Momo version of the Asgore smile

[median fractal]

Give me a few

[north ravine]

Blasting my cannon,
After making a bag!
Hey that guy just got their tag!
Aim and FIRE,
Down and EXPIRE!
Now there's no time to retire!
Alt + F4!
Little do you know, my supplies are endless
As expected your state is hopeless
Bludgeon this C***!
With my Momo Blunt!
Cue Momo Finish Attack battle cry

The queen's artillery cannot be stopped!

[median fractal]

I need an Eminem cover of this🔥

[feral mist]

Yoink

[oblique raven]

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-run-over-triki-troy-deltarune-gif-17995477417765303444

[viral lynx]

Speaking of cannons

[feral mist]

Shield went straight through the rat ocha

[viral lynx]

IKKKK I HATE IT

[viral lynx]

They call for nerfs bc they're predictable 😔

[random moth]

"nerf Momo"

[north ravine]

...Man, it's actually jarring comparing the damage between normal cannons and my Fixer build

Your cannons at level 4 are still hitting for less damage than mine at level 1

[viral lynx]

Wait I was under the impression that Momo's gamma damage couldn't be increased with tuning?

[random moth]

Closest i got to the Yukata fixer build is this

[random moth]

It was fixed at the start of this season

[north ravine]

At first, yes. However, the devs finally realized their mistake and fixed all "objects" that attack not receiving the tuning buffs from alpha/beta/gamma attack power+

[viral lynx]

WHAT

ACTUALLY

[north ravine]

So this change also kicked in for the likes of Kurogiri's gamma, since it's the shadow orb that launches the moves.

[viral lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-cannon-time-corridor-crew-cannon-launch-time-gif-4386892905142815775

[north ravine]

That is an interesting Fixer build; has all of the gamma attack power+. Honestly the only flaw is not having access to every single HP/GP attack power+

(and just the fact this build is actually stupid beyond comprehension with how much the stars aligned for the equips)

[north ravine]

Even that Assault normal slot will be contributing damage real soon

[random moth]

Can't reach perfection without the Yukata

[random moth]

?

[weary pond]

Momo, I wonder how her skillset would look like. Prob one of the best 💅 Tea

[ionic oyster]

I can’t approve of this bc you killed my wife💔

Jk you guys have amazing skills at predicting where the person will be next

[copper ocean]

This Toga kinda put me on my villain arc

[feral mist]

Can't say I blame ya I absolutely despise rapid Toga

[random moth]

That evil laugh

[north ravine]

Nah, justified

She had a lot of nerve being alive

[feral mist]

Facts lol

[ionic oyster]

The laugh😭

[cyan quarry]

Gosh, that's terrible you had to literally wait for her to awaken to actually kill her.

Such a downgrade

[exotic cargo]

Bro that Ibara at the start 😭

[feral mist]

I really should try doing this more often lol

[cyan quarry]

Obviously it wouldn't work as good since it's before the big knockdown nerf.
At least I don't think it would

[feral mist]

Perhaps

[oblique raven]

@north ravine ggs btw that Overhaul was me

[north ravine]

Were you there because it was a third party or were those idiots we were killing your allies?

[oblique raven]

Your team killed mine

[north ravine]

So the latter

[oblique raven]

Yeah

Ggs

I saw the user and knew i saw that somewhere

Lmao

[oblique raven]

Idk what that strike Kendo was doing

The Ochaco is my noob friend 😭🙏

[glad geyser]

😡

[oblique raven]

Mew, no.

Sit down.

[glad geyser]

im no nub

[oblique raven]

Go back in the corner.

[glad geyser]

am pro

[oblique raven]

You are nub

[glad geyser]

im not the best

but im decent

[oblique raven]

Close enough.

[north ravine]

The Kendo put themselves in the midst of the cannons and took like 600 damage instantly

[oblique raven]

Nub.

[oblique raven]

😭😭😭

I will admit monoma having your cannons had me pressed

[north ravine]

Our team comp had 2 spammy gammas for Monoma to use

Endeavor and Momo

[oblique raven]

It was busted icl

[north ravine]

If you stuck around, you'd have had front row seats to watching a Hawks try to avoid double Endeavor gamma and beta spam

[oblique raven]

Roasted chicken

Everyone's favorite

[feral mist]

Personally I'm more of a fried chicken kinda of guy

[exotic cargo]

Same

[native niche]

Thru my playing momo today

I think they should buff alpha

But drop it down to 4 charges

😈

[copper ocean]

I don't think any buff is worth having only 4 charges 😭

[humble glade]

put more burst dmg into shields
give her 1 more ammo on beta
give her a higher reload rate on alpha and beta

make it so her bag can give 2-5 items

[native niche]

Atm it feels annoying rather than hurting

[native niche]

That a frontline build at that rate

Mans asking for 3 buffs

[humble glade]

i wanna play aggro

[native niche]

When I just want one with a nerf to balance

[humble glade]

im never forgiving bumking for nerfing momo in 2025 because of another character they horribly designed

[north ravine]

The only buff they could give to Momo alpha to improve it is changing the interaction it has on airborne opponents who are on HP to not knock them to the floor, or make them bounce like certain moves that spike the enemy

The amount of unnecessary I frames people receive from being sent to the ground happens far too often

[modern edge]

I mean if they doubled the DMG it would

But why tf would they do that

[modern edge]

Oh that's what causes it

Good to know

[north ravine]

If anything, Momo's combo potential and having the ammo to avoid putting it on total cool down far outweighs the DPS value of the move

Besides id rather not see an influx of Momo stans who are only there because her alpha hits too hard

Come to think of it... What is the highest level of alpha attack power+? Strike Shoto, Strike Dabi and Tech Kaminari exist, but her fixer Yukata outfit can only Lvl 4 Shoto... 8 + 12 (6 + 6) for level 20, not factoring the HP or GP attack power+.

[copper ocean]

Alpha gaming

[weary pond]

That beta pull block, into cancel, into wall runner tec was nice

[copper ocean]

It might have been a different story had Mt Lady gone for her beta as opposed to her gamma.

[north ravine]

At around the last few seconds, it looks like you were trying to animation cancel Momo's alpha... Is that just to make it look visually cooler?

[copper ocean]

Not exactly - I'm not sure if Momo can pull off an animation cancel like that.

Besides maybe rolling off the platform and pressing alpha. No real gameplay benefit.

[native niche]

Don't need that much alphas due to combo potential

[native niche]

See all it took was two alphas

And now they gone

Just watch how it operates

Simple

👀

[north ravine]

And for the times when there's more than 1 threat?

[native niche]

Cannon

Thats no brainer

You want to cannon 1 person or multiple?

👀

[north ravine]

Threats in different directions that make it so you're unable to address both equally with cannons?

[native niche]

You got 3 👀

And it got range

It's ok

I know yalls love that frontline 👀

I just like to poke holes in the flaws of it lol

[stiff meadow]

Praying Byking re runs this banner next season

Wall Runner + one of Revenge Strike, Willpower or Trance Blow

[copper ocean]

Every playstyle has a flaw

[native niche]

Facts

[weary pond]

Bruh we don't have to play a specific way dawg ;} . Let me ask this Wman206. The reason you want her alpha buffed but nerfed in quantity.
Is it because you want people to play the way you think she should be played?

If so even if that were to happen, I would play her up close all day every day! She still has her shield and canons for up close personal beefs.

The only flaw I see with her when up close is if someone is in the air already or a ranged beamer is mid range and keeping it mid range. But a good momo will see that and plan accordingly.
Her alphas are to precious to be only used as a defense to tool.(imo)

When you can legit tod someone if you have a teammate that is using a characters' ability with no knockdown value or a hard hitting ability.

[stiff meadow]

I think functionality wise, Momo is in a good spot.
Her Gamma nerf was needed and so was her Alpha buff where she can now hit airborne targets

All she needs is a damage buff

Ideally her gamma goes from 125 to 140
Beta from 150 to 160

[modern edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361375148380524580/1395786582920925266/image0.gif

[north ravine]

Yea the beta feels like it is now lagging behind the meta in the damage department. Considering how slow and predictable it is, it doesn't have the same oomph as a move like Kirishima assault beta

[native niche]

And that why I say put the alpha cooldown since you got canon to do stuff as well

Im pretty sure yalls can aim that alpha good

More damage would be better since she got nerfed

You want a battle to last so a third party can happen easier or close out a kill as soon as possible

What is the goal with the alphas to stall or your tryna cook them

Overall damage got nerfed now a buff would be good

As you saw in video above mans only used about 3 alphas and they got knockdown meaning it can recharge back

There's balance in it

Unless your going in there swinging into 3-4 pple then thats a wild approach when you can just cannons them but still alpha buff would be good 👍

[native niche]

Everything is personal for every character from what im seeing. But why the personal beef when it a team game 👀

[native niche]

New skill set that all she needs now this kit already good

[copper ocean]

Our beta's hitbox seems normal now

But don't beta into Tamaki's gamma 🥀 (both charged and uncharged)

[wispy scroll]

OMG

[feral mist]

I expected it ngl.

There's a lot of moves that goes through Momo's beta. I miss the days when it was actually an "unfailing castle wall"

[north ravine]

Real talk is there any defensive measure aside from permeating that will save you from the shoop da whoop?

[copper ocean]

Not in regards to Momo at least

, , , and can all protect themselves and/or allies from his shoop da whoop

[oblique raven]

You fr went

https://tenor.com/view/buu-death-spirit-bomb-kid-buu-dragon-ball-gif-25420601

[feral mist]

https://tenor.com/view/daima-db-dragon-ball-dragonball-son-goku-gif-1744951615953601383

Nothing just except your fate

[north ravine]

Considering how long the ability lasts too, your only hope is probably just Plus Ultra

[feral mist]

Oh I thought you were talking Tamaki

[north ravine]

I mean, same principle; you could PU before losing HP and if you're far enough away you have a chance to maybe escape some more damage by moving out of the blast zone

[feral mist]

True

[glad geyser]

So I have a character ticket and I'm curious if momo would be a good choice

At least if she's better than strike denki

[north ravine]

Strike Denki tuning is pretty forgettable, with the normal tuning being decent. Momo's normal tuning is a great 2nd or 3rd pick across supports.

Both have abysmal special tuning, so I guess it's a matter of what you want in a play style really

Playing Momo is like having a knife and a grenade launcher as a create a class in a 1st person shooter. It's going to take a lot of practice and learning how to only use those 2 things

[rocky bronze]

Ngl

Clicked Beta negates half of tamaki's kit

Only reason I started using her again

[modern edge]

Holy, that move looks so scary 😭😭

[modern edge]

Deflecting this is crazy ngl 😭

[wide niche]

hi momos

did they fix her shield

[feral mist]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[north ravine]

Compress looks bugged with blocking the hyper beam ngl

I would at least expect it to drain his beta similar to the likes of Assault Kendo, but maybe it's just pity at this point

[north ravine]

So Momo's gamma Fixer potential has just increased with Tamaki's normal tuning being gamma attack power

[viral lynx]

Wait so does that mean I can't randomly hit Kendo and strike kiri through their shield anymore

[wide niche]

wanna test it?

i'd like to know as well

[feral mist]

I assume so

[north ravine]

Yup, they fixed the matchup caused by the bug

[viral lynx]

So her beta is fine now? Just a bit lackluster in terms of damage ig

[viral lynx]

I will be trying it out soon, it wasn't working normally until this season so I hope it was fixed

I've had some REALLY painful misses with her beta

[north ravine]

The beta is functional now; no ridiculous whiffs or needing to try and wiggle the movement to get it to hit

[viral lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/yaomomo-momo-yaoyorozu-excited-happy-gif-17024691

[random moth]

Funny team wipeout

[feral mist]

W

[north ravine]

Cannon durability buff in a nutshell

[modern edge]

So aizawa gamma doesn't eat her cannons?

[north ravine]

His gamma is a lot like Momo's beta; if the source of damage is from the front of the explosion (or the cannonball hits his gamma directly), it will be blocked

However, explosions off of walls or behind Aizawa are fair game

[modern edge]

I tht so but like bro died

How low was he 😭

[north ravine]

Aizawa took ~425 damage, 3 from cannonballs (125 x 3 = 375) and the rest from matryshokas

And as for why he was being hurt by the cannonballs despite using gamma, Aizawa got too close for gamma to properly block the projectile.

[modern edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361375148380524580/1395786582920925266/image0.gif

[north ravine]

If anything it's more of a question of "why didn't he take more damage?" Ground zero is where his family jewels were... 💀

[feral mist]

I hate using Momo this season. Anyway I thought this was funny.

[pliant gazelle]

THANKS FOR THE WIN

The momo cannons are peak

[livid hill]

Is it worth tuning momo basic costumes?

Don’t have access to any PUR for her

[modern edge]

I don't think so ngl

[livid hill]

Alrighty

[edgy isle]

im think of learning momo any tips i do own her parrallel world costume

[viral lynx]

Only one I would say is MAYBE worth tuning is the fancy variant of the base costume

Its base tuning is fine and you can get revenge rapid since wall runner isn't worth using at low levels

[north ravine]

R/SR costumes will always be inferior, but there's nothing wrong with making a budget build in the meantime. You'll want to plan around the special tuning effects that don't matter as much level wise

Willpower, Revenge Rapid/Strike, Compression magic, Muscle Form and Embrittlement are a few decent examples of functional tuning at 5 and below

Just be wary of burning up character data for characters you don't own if you do make a budget build

The black chips, unlock keys and the upgrade tokens are relatively expendable compared to data for characters you're missing

[north ravine]

Parallel World Momo has a good selection of builds to work with, though Villain and Fantasy are the best 2.

I like Fancy personally because you can run Divine protection to nab boxes fast, and crushing PU charge to get a second wind in case I get jumped

[viral lynx]

I would say Dangerous is also good because you can have Wall Runner and Divine Protection, I feel like Wall Runner would still be useful at level 10 and the costume also has a good number of strike slots

[north ravine]

All of those start of battle tunings last like 12 minutes or something at level 10

[viral lynx]

Even if level 11 is better I think that's still okay tbh

[wide niche]

wall runner level 10 is perfectly fine

it only runs out if the match reeeally drags on

which is extremely rare for me as someone that uses the dangerous skin

[final spire]

Been a while Momo mains

[final spire]

I have fun with electrification perception as a budget build

[modern edge]

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-tm-opera-o-uma-musume-tmoperao-laughing-gif-8578098772917498051

[feral mist]

Indeed it has

[north ravine]

Perception is one of those skills that is probably gonna see the chopping block eventually

Tamaki's gamma is probably going to be the "Monoma nerf tax" moment.

28 - 30 seconds at level 11 of marking someone is definitely powerful

Heck, even levels 3, 4 and 5 last 8, 9 and 10 seconds respectively.

[livid hill]

Gotcha

[weary pond]

I love bvm rushing and ok you have fair points.

@native niche What would you give her for the quantity reduction?
Dmg increase? Width and Range increase?

[native niche]

I thought it wrote it above already 👀

[weary pond]

Idk did you? all i saw was "buff her alpha but nerf her qauntity" and something about poking holes in peoples playstyle?

[native niche]

Yes

[humble glade]

spammable super saiyan kamehameha is not okay and this is def gonna happen w/ monoma getting 0 changes

god awful new direction in balance

[feral mist]

First time?

[exotic cargo]

I swear when Monoma gets a Tamaki gamma or Momo gamma I wanna absolutely strangle them like istg Monoma does not deserve all this spammable stuff

Cooldown resets in general are just unhealthy for this game

[feral mist]

Ikr

[north ravine]

They've been unhealthy since Toga existed, and all of the idiots parroting that it's fine for their favorite waifu and Monoma to have that BS don't even consider AFO got his instant cooldown gimmick gutted is basically the same thing

[random moth]

They could've beat us🥀

[feral mist]

Exactly

[feral mist]

Y'all are brave for using Momo I can't do it without crashing out

[final spire]

Shes still my best character but her disadvantage just grows daily

[feral mist]

She's my best character too
-# On second thought that's actually probably frog or kiri
But I just don't have the patience to use her in ranked

I just wanna reach Ace so I can avoid ranked lol

Unless I'm playing with friends or something

[copper ocean]

Momo is my ride or die character in every MHA game, tbh.

Regardless of whether or not she happens to be a low tier or a high tier character.

[cyan quarry]

Same, has been for a while.
I tried kurogiri for a while but they've basically broken the character.
Tried the new characters for a bit but they don't normally last longer than a few days.
I would likely choose overhaul too,

[weary pond]

Been having a blast with her since i completed the build with wall runner+nejire leap yukata.

[feral mist]

Facts I'd use him too if I had him on PS

[feral mist]

I will still use her, just not in ranked. I've played for about 6 hours today in ranked crossplay and not a single team with a Momo including my own won a match.

She's getting decimated out here no cap

[weary pond]

I thought tec shoto would be a good replacement with nejire leap but I was wrong. And they so happened to nerf his alpha ice stun right when I finished his build this season 🥹

[feral mist]

Strike Shoto buffs and Tech Shoto nerfs have a lot of Shoto mains which back to Strike and I can see why dude is an absolute menace

And Tamaki

That fricken Sasuke Uchiha wannabe

Forget about his Kamehameha that should be the least of ppl's concern's

IT'S THE ALPHA AND BETA THAT'S THE REAL ISSUE

Seriously especially that beta with its generous tracking and hitbox

Bro might as well be Iida's beta 2.0

[cyan quarry]

Yeah it's not that terrible. Powerful as sht, yeah, but really only busted in the hands of a Monoma who can fast recharge it (Tamaki gamma)

He's still stupid strong but I doubt meta defining as the other 3 main ones

[weary pond]

haha Tamakis' beta is so annoying it can hit the player no matter the direction or height.(considering it's maximum range)

[weary pond]

You know if you were to suggest me that tech shotos ice stun needs to be nerf by reducing the end lag of it, when he first came out. I would agree. But right now in the state of relativity new characters and skill sets. It's a bummer. :c

[random moth]

1- i love my character
2- she's fun
3- she's my best

Even if she receives more nerfs I'm still playing her

[feral mist]

That's understandable

[wide niche]

i like revenge support

[feral mist]

Same

[feral mist]

Is it bad that the only game I've won with Momo this season was on my PC account?

Perhaps I'll give Momo another chance on PS

Try to get at least one win on crossplay ranked over there

[north ravine]

Honestly, beta walls Tamaki's alpha and beta very well; the two things Iida's beta has over Tamaki's is the curved tracking and the armor; Tamaki just goes straight towards you, making it easy to block with shield.

[feral mist]

True

[wide niche]

cooking

[feral mist]

Literally my 1st game on crossplay ranked. I hate solo q

It's insufferable trying to win with Momo

[feral mist]

That's the LAST time I'm using Momo in ranked this season

[wide niche]

🦛

[north ravine]

We WeRe NeRfEd So ThIs Is FaIr

[north ravine]

So anyway, I decided to test the limits of Fixer Yukata ever since Tamaki's inclusion into the build

First 10 seconds is Plus Ultra + 1 Strike card, second strike card is activated after.

[north ravine]

Mirio just isn't imposing in a 1-on-1

[modern edge]

Buddy tryna stall for a team heal while solo 😭

[north ravine]

Honestly I have no idea why he was going so far up; I'm not gonna potshot with gammas while he's airborne

[wide niche]

that mirio was lowkey just doing everything wrong

[feral mist]

For the FIRST time since I started playing this season, I actually seen a team with a Momo win.
-# And I happened to help make that come to be

[median fractal]

A Momo animation for a Momo montage. I’m really happy with how this turned out!

[viral lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-its-just-so-peak-nico-robin-robin-one-piece-gif-6882998141859441927

[median fractal]

Thank youuu!

[ionic oyster]

This is sick

[wide niche]

momo is fun

im glad they made her shield responsive again

[feral mist]

Momo is anything but fun in these sweaty lobbies

I'll probably use her again after I get Ace tho since the first and last two weeks are usually the sweatiest times of the season

[north ravine]

Being able to janitor safely again has been nice

[north ravine]

Nothing is funnier than bullying Strike Bakugo or Kaminari

[modern edge]

I miss using the bugged shield to hit thru other shields

[median fractal]

Every lobby last season be like

[feral mist]

Does anyone know if Momo's beta beats Ibara's beta?

[median fractal]

I feel like Ibara’s would win. Might just pierce and hit Momo through the shield since Momo doesn’t have super armor

[feral mist]

I was told Momo wins unless Momo is using her start up animation

[north ravine]

Unless Momo's beta is already in front of her and active, she loses to Ibara beta.

[feral mist]

Ok

[north ravine]

Anyway, this has got to be one of the ways of all time to lose a match against a Momo

[feral mist]

Lol W

[median fractal]

That’s the dream victory right there😎

[north ravine]

It's the small victories that make it more satisfying, like dishing out this kind of damage

[feral mist]

Ok I've really got to try that beta lock more often

It's legit like the last thing on my mind lol

[north ravine]

Same here, if anything you gotta try to force the enemy into a spot where you can knock them into one

[feral mist]

Ok

[north ravine]

I think the hardest part about this trick is that the beta shield still randomly self-destructs or vanishes

So if you do fish for it, there's a chance you've just wasted valuable time and positioning because the game said "nuh-uh"

[feral mist]

Lol

[north ravine]

I love my Fixer damage

[modern edge]

Still see too much of him tbh

[modern edge]

What did his gamma even get stuck on 😭

[north ravine]

You know how whenever he reaches the "end" of the ground he's traveling on and does the hop?

[modern edge]

Yeah ik

[north ravine]

My theory is that the devs did a horrible job at connecting the terrain together at the separation of the various surfaces

So when he starts his gamma, he is starting it on that grey strip and when he reaches the dark-gray bricks, he has hit the "end" of the walkway

[modern edge]

Strange bc even mirio before the buff had to trouble with that spot iirc

[modern edge]

But this is very believable

[north ravine]

If there's ever a change in the surfaces like the sidewalks transitioning to the streets in UA Island, then there's a chance for the game to consider it a different floor

[median fractal]

Momo dance gif activate

[north ravine]

The one thing I love about Solos is the fools who think they can "work together" to solve their problems.

[feral mist]

Masterfully done LOL

[feral mist]

I DID IT!

I WON MY FIRST GAME WITH MOMO ON PS THIS SEASON

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-chocolate-finally-laughs-maniacally-gif-14228908

[feral mist]

I understand why she got nerfed now

[feral mist]

Anyone else notice sometimes there's like 1 full team in a solo q lobby?

[cyan quarry]

That.. I don't know why

[ionic oyster]

Has to get up to place the beta rq

[random moth]

😭😭

[modern edge]

Momo if she locks tf in:

[feral mist]

Lol

[median fractal]

Tamaki when you decide to exist

[north ravine]

And then the times when you're well aware of what they're planning:

[thorn coral]

overall momo tips? i want to get better at her 🥹

[modern edge]

I recommend going alpha 7

Then gamma 9

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-tm-opera-o-uma-musume-tmoperao-laughing-gif-8578098772917498051

[wide niche]

why A7 specifically

[modern edge]

Gives you trucks

[north ravine]

Sir, this is a Momo Yaoyorozu character discussion channel.

[modern edge]

Perhaps

[feral mist]

My my look how generous that tracking is

[wide niche]

i crave fixer crushing PU momo

[random moth]

Worse than strike Dabi beta tracking

[north ravine]

The only tracking that tops Tamaki's is Iida's beta

...Maybe Hawks beta too but he can't do it twice and it hits like feathers

And his alpha/gamma damage are bottom tier.

[north ravine]

The pit demands the blood of a Toga

[weary pond]

Momo holds up against endos skillset pretty well because of her shield. But... the big But I'm pretty sure within a few weeks she gonna struggle. (This is with wall runner+ nejire leap on momo) experience

[random moth]

LOL

The Pit

[north ravine]

Endeavor's only real threatening move is that beta tornado; Momo's beta counters the alpha and the gamma if she can directly ram the fireball with the shield to delete it.

If anything, Endeavor should be terrified of being caught by Momo since she can just swat him back to the floor with an alpha, and he really doesn't have options to get away fast enough.

[north ravine]

Tell me when The Pit isn't a bloodbath

[random moth]

The beta is insane, if you have no mobility you're stuck inside it, leaving it isn't possible

[north ravine]

Pretty sure you can roll through it

Though that becomes a bit challenging when there's visual vomit everywhere

[random moth]

I tried, it just keeps stunning you and the hitbox of the edge is quite big

[north ravine]

On the plus side, it serves as an excellent execution ground.

[feral mist]

You have to walk towards the edge then you roll out of it

[random moth]

That's what i did?😭 I guess i messed up the timing of the roll then

[feral mist]

Yea cuz I did it plenty of times just fine

[random moth]

Anyways the skill set is just too obnoxious

AOE on every move

I was on chaos city one supernova destroyed my fps

[feral mist]

First time?

[cyan quarry]

Can you __AFO__rd (afford) to keep playing despite that?

Remember that tech Todoroki, AFO, and others with multi-hit moves did the same exact thing.

[feral mist]

On switch 1 yea but not on switch 2. These supernovas are making my PS5 lag.

[river garnet]

Why cant momo have one good matchup anymore💔

[rocky bronze]

Noobs whined about her damage too frequently

At least her beta is back to being usable now

[river garnet]

W banner🔥

[rocky bronze]

Thank you

[north ravine]

The irony of it all is that her Yukata Fixer build has higher damage potential than her OG cannons in their prime before tuning existed.

Guess if it's locked behind gacha paywall they don't mind

[modern edge]

A paywall you can't guarantee mind you

[north ravine]

You could guarantee it, but only on select banners that would feature it and no way of knowing when it'll return

[feral oracle]

Hey

[feral mist]

Bye

Jk hi

[cyan quarry]

And I love the regular tunings on Yukata dangerous and Yukata Fancy, just wish the special tunings were something better

Hm... Ability Manifest on Momo could actually be decent.

[rocky bronze]

I heard it makes her storm stalling better

I plan to run it once im done building everything else

[weary pond]

I wish in the future they add a good ability manifest + fixer build

[cyan quarry]

I've heard that too, but wasn't sure if it was better than just running cementoss's tuning since she has a good villain green and hero green costume, but it wouldn't do a whole lot for me, mobility wise.

[rocky bronze]

I think for her builds its either you fully commit to mobility and having tunings that can help you move freely or fully commit to strats like camping or storm stalling, i wouldn't know tbh since i dont do the latter

[cyan quarry]

So what do y'all do in these scenarios? Where there's just a Monoma basically waiting for you in gamma mode.
I've been running into these moments increasingly more, where they'd just sit there and wait, or even chase me down until I have to fight someone

[rocky bronze]

"That's very inappropriate" spam until they leave with their tail behind their legs

Because i know well they dont want my alpha or beta

[cyan quarry]

I had a game earlier where a Monoma just sat on Kota with gamma active, waiting for me to hit him, just taunting me by trying to rescue Kota, then rolling away.

Then he eventually got him once storm slowly came in (he was near the edge of the map, so wasn't a long wait, hit me with beta to knock me back then re-activated gamma and drank in front of me before flying off.

Never felt harder disrespect. Literally said "wait your turn." But I didn't want to just give him Kota for free but I was tied up on indecision

[rocky bronze]

Thats when u get your team to come to you so they can cc him away

Most monomas r too stupid to use gamma to their advantage and instead focus on one specific gamma

[cyan quarry]

I had the issue of "teammates deciding to run across the map, away from me" syndrome

[rocky bronze]

Considering you were using momo thats a bad play on their end

[cyan quarry]

Yee, which is why I always look for tuning outfits with some kind of mobility, since my expectations aren't very high normally

Usually going with spiraling leap, because I can't deal with the door climbing with wall runner

[rocky bronze]

I go for wall runner and just hope for the best

Lately ive been running symbol of peace and divine protection

[cyan quarry]

I've been tempted by Divine protection but normally I try to run warp heal, just for the amount of times I get knocked into storm, so I can at least provide support to my team while making my way back.

Even though I'm known for my full heal luck, it's nice to have a bit of excess support outside of that, especially with teammates who never want to stick near me

[unkempt canopy]

For me it really depends on what stage of the match it is-
If it's like early game I'll attack them anyway since if a Monoma is just sitting there on Kota it's likely he doesn't have levels, let alone a leveled up gamma.
If it's later on in the game however... I'll avoid them unless they're in a building where I can block exits and corner them/read their wakeup with Alpha or Beta

[ionic oyster]

Started to chase you down bruh 💔 😭

[unkempt canopy]

The best thing to do lategame is bait them into somewhere you have the better offensive positioning if they decide to chase you for your Gamma.

[ionic oyster]

I’m thinking about running a momo build with compress tunings what else should I add?

[cyan quarry]

Depending on what the other tuning slot is, I ran that tuning for a bit but ran it with wall runner, since her Yukata dangerous allowed it. Though I personally think Kurogiri is a lot better for healing, since it heals so much for big blues, but for budget builds it's still solid.

Unless you had/have the issue that I had where 70% of the inventory just ends up being full heals, then go all in, absolutely. Sadly it doesn't stack blue and green team heals

[cyan quarry]

Not sure if it’s a new bug or my internet being weird, but for some reason I noticed that if I place my cannons too fast, the third one sometimes just locks me in place and I can’t even dodge roll out of it or press any other buttons, until the cannon despawns on its own. Though I can't really tell, since it only happens maybe once every 4 or 5-ish games and usually only lasts for a game or two, then goes back to normal.

Also the only clip I recently got of it, if anyone else has experienced it before;

Or at the very least, I only started getting it a whole lot more, ever since assault endeavor was added.
So maybe it's him lagging my game and causing it somehow but I'm not sure.

[feral mist]

She really wanted to aim at strike shigi 💀

[rocky bronze]

Momo truly never catches a break

[native niche]

Gamma about to get nerfed again

[feral mist]

Ppl literally walking into her cannons and claim "she's OP" -_-

[native niche]

Facts

[modern edge]

Deserved lmao

[olive wagon]

give it to me straight

is momo chalked

[feral mist]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[wide niche]

shes okay

but not great

[feral mist]

She's still a viable character but it's just majority of the cast far outclasses her

[wide niche]

^basically

[olive wagon]

is kendos shield fixed yet

[wide niche]

for the most part

[olive wagon]

what that mean

[wide niche]

there will never be a time where her shield 100% works always

ive still had yellow deku alphas fly through it for seemingly no reason

[olive wagon]

ah

[wide niche]

but otherwise it works enough

[olive wagon]

so theres no character with like

reliable cover making?

or is that unironically

just

red deku

im asking cause like depending i might play in the tourney for funsies

but if the metas too AIDS ima just not

[wide niche]

cover as in for peels and making space?

[olive wagon]

like

a shield

momo kendo like yk

something to block shots

[wide niche]

kendo can do that

like i said its just rare occasions that shield might act up

but it works

[olive wagon]

yea cause i used to use momo for it she did it well in the first discord cup

but shes been gutted

[wide niche]

i think shes okay still

its just cannons they touched at the end of the day (all she had)

she can def still blow you up and spawn res cards when needed

just need a team that can keep you safe in return

[north ravine]

Honestly I think that the default Yukata may have had a little play in getting the devs to nerf the cannons

I don't think there is any other costume with a tuning combination that can achieve a buff as strong as Momo's.

8/10 normal tunings can increase the gamma's attack power on it

All 4 of the Gamma attack power traits can be invested on the Fixer side

Casually dumping out ~200 damage cannonballs during a strike card with the Matryshokas chipping for MORE than her alpha at level 9...

On the right clip, you can see Froppy take 3 Matryshokas at 76 damage EACH.

[feral mist]

Yea pretty much sums it up

Unfortunately majority of the time my team doesn't protect me either cuz they're too busy fighting a battle of their own or they don't want to pocket me around/follow my lead which is why I usually have mobility based tuning on

[opaque sky]

[north ravine]

Well anyway Momo tax

[fresh torrent]

what other charcters do the momo mains like? im debating putting her down for a while with how outclassed she feels lately

[stiff meadow]

Froppy and Red Shigiraki

[feral mist]

^

[random moth]

Tech dabi but he's just as bad

If not worse

[modern edge]

Yellow kiri

[modern edge]

There's lots for that, like cementoss, tech shoto yendo, mirio just depends on what else you want I suppose

[fresh torrent]

thanks everyone. i might give kiri and shigi another chance. i llayed shigi back in season 1 but fell in love with momos play style in season 2 lol

[native niche]

Just play the characters you like no need to lay them off

👀 👀

Games are ment to be enjoyed

[feral mist]

You can say that again

[modern edge]

Idek if even mirio cld get outta that 😭😭

[feral mist]

Fr

[median fractal]

Rough draft of Lore accurate Momo vs Monoma

[north ravine]

Giving a lot of liberties to Monoma's IQ in your animation.

[median fractal]

If I didn’t the battle would end immediately lol

[median fractal]

Dude your a Monoma killing machine🔥

[north ravine]

Learning the habits of the character is the easiest method to winning. In the case of Monoma, that means catch their immediate wakeup that will discard their I-frames with reckless abandon and brutally punish them.

...I included the part where I threw all those rocks at the end just because it's the right thing to do to a Monoma.

https://tenor.com/view/goku-rock-hit-krillin-gif-25479189

[north ravine]

I'm more impressed that the beta shield decided to exist instead of deleting itself

[copper ocean]

Or even ending up in a different direction

[north ravine]

Honestly, I've only ever had the shield just self-destruct and delete. Never heard of it changing direction

Or the one time the shield was... Uh... Not okay?

I don't even think the shield can extend that far out in the first place

[random moth]

Beep beep

[feral mist]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-slow-down-jethro-pioneers-gif-5521176

[feral mist]

Lol

[random moth]

Fr

[north ravine]

I'll never understand people who decide they should attempt to do a normal revive when hostiles are around.

Like... Buddy. Your best bet is making sure that you can get their token after they're gone.

[random moth]

What the heck was he thinking

[north ravine]

Probably out of special action so they'd try the next best thing

[cyan forum]

Should you put some tuning into her beta or not

[north ravine]

Honestly speaking I don't see much reason in going for beta attack power

[cyan forum]

Gamma is best right?

[north ravine]

Generally it's the lowest priority in the upgrades and you're less inclined to make it max first

Gamma is her cannons, which is her best move

[cyan forum]

So gamma alpha beta

[north ravine]

Her alpha is a blunt weapon making a projectile, which sets up for combos and does decent damage. Beta simply "ends" combos and knocks the enemy back

[wide niche]

all in on gamma when possible

i'd only go for alpha if you have an extra purple slot for tech denki

although thats mainly for the small reload buff rather than the damage

since momo's alpha is moreso valuable for its stun and pushback over dealing damage

beta isnt really worth tuning over anything else tho like suba said

[random moth]

“Next best thing” is the worst decision there 😭

[west lily]

another season of not playing momo :/

[feral mist]

First time?

[random moth]

We got nerfed again….

[modern edge]

Eh

[weary pond]

Teammates to other teammates: -Momo sees an enemy looting still- -she sets up canons-
"Aye how much down power did you deal"
"other teammates i did like 100"

-momo "so if my teammated did 100".... starts doing calculations.
" enemy looted and booted already long gone.
momo player "awe dang it"

[queen fable]

im still trying to understand why does red kiri, have appart from cancelable moves that still make combo when cancelled, full mobility and a infinite hp shield... Why does his shield cover from tamaki's laser but momo's shield doesn't do that. Momo has no mobility, barely damage if it was not for the canons and yet still nerfing her

[weary pond]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[queen fable]

[north ravine]

Honestly, a minor nerf that isn't as bad as it seems.

Cannons do 250 DP and alpha does 175 DP. 1 doll can hit the enemy without disrupting your ability to hit a 2nd cannonball

The only real victim of the nerfs are characters like Mt Lady and Rapid Ochaco.

Now she has an actual DP value on her alpha, oh the horrors

[weary pond]

Denki got his tod combo gone zos

[north ravine]

Oh right, the OG beamers suffered too

[weary pond]

Yeah whats the max knockdown down power until knock down 500?

[north ravine]

Yup.

If anything, how are we going to address the AFO buff

[wide niche]

ochaco is not a victim this patch i promise you

i tested her this morning

[weary pond]

oh boy his beta was already good top tier players are going to have a blast

[north ravine]

Yea if anything she's going to be fine

[north ravine]

Me staring at my screen on AFO's 3.5s beta at level 9 at 4 am

[weary pond]

hahaha

[north ravine]

Like... Can we get a few seconds shaved off Momo beta?

[queen fable]

yeah doesn't seem bad, except when u think there's still monoma and red kiri mainly and none got nerf...

[random moth]

That's true, but i think the nerf itself is pretty petty in my opinion, that mataryoshka dolls aren't that threatening

[random moth]

I hate how long the startup animation for the beta is

[north ravine]

#1233263802867384430 message

76 damage per Matryshoka doll under the right conditions is nothing to scoff at

[edgy isle]

real

[north ravine]

The dolls pre-nerf were more or less a random bit of bonus damage

With zero DP to boot

[random moth]

That's with 2 strike teammates and a strike card

The condition isn't common

[north ravine]

Even then, you'd still be looking at roughly the same damage as a level 9 alpha

[random moth]

True

But then considering the previous cannon nerf, nerfing the dolls too is.....

[north ravine]

It's not a good thing, but there's far worse that could've happened

[random moth]

Agreed

[random moth]

It's so long, and funny, because even though the shield has been clearly fully pulled out, you'd still get hit and cancelled out of the move

A buff to the beta to shorten the startup animation would really increase her survivability

Since currently her survaivability is mid at best

[deft zephyr]

Hello everyone I'm just picking up momo any tips!!!

[feral mist]

You picked the wrong moment to pickup momo

I suggest you use another character lest you end up like me

[deft zephyr]

Im bored of hawks and shigigigigi

[feral mist]

Alright use Momo but don't say I didn't warn ya

[feral mist]

Here, the answer to all your questions https://youtu.be/F1yfHzh6UPE?feature=shared

[deft zephyr]

Tysm <3

[feral mist]

The pleasure is all mine

[weary pond]

It's actually pretty good to avoid grounded attacks mainly strike shiggy

[north ravine]

You could've set a cannon and fired it straight down/at Shoto

Heck, the cannon's buff to durability actually lets it beat out projectiles that don't pierce by soaking them

[feral mist]

His gamma would have gone through and killed me regardless

I didn't use gamma at first because I tried to jump over the ice wall, but that's when I remembered that the collision box is actually larger than the visual

Also another reason why I didn't use gamma was because he was at the exit so he would have just left and waited for me outside and come back in and use gamma after the cannon fire was over (he actually did go outside to do that but since I didn't use gamma right away he came back in and used gamma)

[cyan quarry]

I'd say compress suffered the most, since his main skill got hurt.
Same with assault all might since the splash has down power too.
Though not sure how it'll play out

[queen fable]

i hate with all my soul how easy is to cancel the shield (by other players attacking u, i mean)

[feral mist]

Sucks doesn't it?

[queen fable]

sucks more the fact that red kiri isn't nerfed yet but momo got nerfed twice already (●'◡'●)

[feral mist]

Indeed

[north ravine]

Honestly I don't mind the matryshoka dolls having DP now; their launch angle can push the enemy back into a dangerous position

You can see at the 12 second mark how Endeavor is denied the ability to escape after he gets hit back to me by a doll

[modern edge]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-23900273

[feral mist]

-_-

[modern edge]

I mean that's just what bro gets for dropping beta right in front of you 😭

[weary pond]

LetsGooo

[cyan forum]

Whats her best outfit for tuning

[random moth]

I did the thing

[west lily]

Aight ima play momo again

[feral mist]

Lol all bro had to do was calmly standup and jump but he tried punching the shield 😂

[random moth]

"Too much work, hit her with another nerf"

Devs gonna see this kind of clips and nerf the beta's durability soon 🔥

[feral mist]

Lol

[feral mist]

Ok seriously what is up with Ibara's alpha not going through Momo's moving beta that's starting to get on my nerves

[queen fable]

give momo a rest, red kiri does all of that and even worse

[feral mist]

Insane luck lol

[queen fable]

ok so... what do i do against a red kiri, like, at all?

[deft zephyr]

You don't

[queen fable]

to pray, basically

[jolly torrent]

Is it weird for me to think that Momo QSS will turn her into a Rapid?

Like, given how she can make a ton of tools, I'd assume she'd create stuff to help her move around, like some big springs or something.

[feral mist]

Anything but rapid. I'm so sick of rapids

[jolly torrent]

Bro, everyone is a Rapid nowadays. 😂

Rapid Momo would not be that bad.

[cyan forum]

I saw a new event coming up and we getting a new skin for her well new color for the summer suit

[feral mist]

Momos can kiss their storm healing days goodbye then

I wouldn't mind that as long as I get some mobility tbh

Look at strike kendo, not a rapid yet can travel farther than most can

I hope Momo's will be similar without her having to be a rapid but we'll see

[random moth]

Assault Momo with 400 HP

[median fractal]

Technically a new outfitttttttt!

[random moth]

💔