Momo Yaoyorozu

[viral lynx]

That's what I get for joining in season 6 I guess 😔

[north ravine]

Eh don't blame yourself; this game really needed to do a better job advertising itself.

[viral lynx]

I had heard of it before its launch and then kinda forgot about it tbh

Then I saw a free mha game in the store and decided to try it 😭

And here I am now ;p

And on this topic, any wisdom you might be able to share about Strike Kirishima?

All most of them do is hold their shield up 💔

[north ravine]

Ever since they messed with Momo's beta hitbox, you can actually use it to charge through the beta slam (and if you're bold, you could try to run through them).

[viral lynx]

Can you? I've always been knocked out of it as far as I can remember

[north ravine]

The hitbox is so inconsistent you may actually "whiff" on hitting their shield and just hurt Kirishima anyway.

[north ravine]

The shield damage hitbox is an utter mess that will sometimes just go right through the target; I've literally hit Kendo through her beta using my own.

It's a very cheeky and risky play, but it's possible 😂

[viral lynx]

I feel like her beta became much easier to dodge now tbh

Either that or I just got used to it

[north ravine]

On a more serious note for actually fighting Kirishima, you want to try and bait out his gamma rocks and punish with alphas. You can even throw up a beta shield for cover or to alter the trajectory of the boulders. Momo's alpha beats out Strike Kiri's alpha too.

[viral lynx]

Noted

I have friends who play him who I want to beat after making the bold claim that they'd beat Momo ;p

Which is why I asked for him specifically

Much appreciated c:

[north ravine]

If anything, slapping him to the floor and placing cannons to the sides of his wake-up options would be the play

If he gets up and tries to beta, the cannon explosions will hopefully catch his blindspot (or maybe give you a chance to alpha him).

After all, his shield range is far smaller than Kendo's so if he gets too careless, maybe an attack will hit him. Oh, and when he's doing his beta slam, there is a period of time where he is actually completely vulnerable.

So, a well placed cannon at where he's going to slam will just explode him and punish him nicely.

Gotta abuse that HP buff they gave the gamma cannons

[viral lynx]

I haven't really seen that make much of a difference against some characters to be honest 💔

[north ravine]

The difference in durability is genuinely ridiculous

They can withstand a giant Mt Lady beta

[viral lynx]

Okay maybe I've been downplaying their new durability

[north ravine]

They used to break from stuff as simple as a deku connecting with it

You can even use it as a pseudo shield against certain projectiles

Since the cannons will just soak the attack for you and continue firing

Of course it's not invincible; stuff like Strike Shigaraki can still easily erase them, but it's capable of actually firing a cannonball off before breaking

[viral lynx]

Yeah both Shigarakis were my main concern

[north ravine]

Assault would only be able to break the cannon with a beta tbh. You can even see the cannons take a hit from a PU Strike Shoto beta and continue firing.

If anything, this is one of the biggest buffs that Momo has ever received

[viral lynx]

Okay I have definitely been downplaying their durability

This is great

[north ravine]

Cannons used to require strategic placements as to not be broken by someone coughing toward them

[viral lynx]

Honestly 💔

Now I wish they'd fix her beta's damage hitbox

[north ravine]

For example, here's a clip of the cannons against a PU Mt Lady breaking from just 1 giant gamma

(Yea this clip is old AF; no tuning)

[viral lynx]

Insane 😭 at least you still got the down

[north ravine]

Ah here's a somewhat better clip demonstrating how fragile cannons used to be

Okay maybe I should've clipped out the excessive amount of T-bagging but that guy was annoying with the gamma pushing...

But yea; maybe a half a second of AFO beta was enough to break the cannons back then

[viral lynx]

But yeah people being annoying is good reason for that lmao

[north ravine]

Old school Momo; you must be airborne to throw an alpha vertically

Now those were "fun" days.

[viral lynx]

Oh yeah that was a great change

[north ravine]

Personally though I think I would take OG alpha at the cost of all of the changes they made.

All that additional alpha ammo was hilarious.

[viral lynx]

EIGHT ROUNDS FOR HER ALPHA AT LEVEL 1 IS INSANE

[north ravine]

It actually used to get an additional ammo at level 4 and 9

So it was really 10 uses

[viral lynx]

I need that 😭

[north ravine]

And no one whined about this guy who could technically do it 24 times.

[viral lynx]

Yeah his alpha is hers with obscenely long range and much less knockdown value

[native niche]

I run on sight 👀

[viral lynx]

I hope they fix his cooldowns I'm tired of fighting Monoma with the fear that he'll get my cannons 💔

[north ravine]

Of course there's some situations that are just not winnable, and the best bet is retreating and making the enemy decide it's time to heal up.

[native niche]

I really don't be fighting compared to yalls

Yalls demons

[north ravine]

Now now... The pain is but momentary; death follows quickly after. Usually.

[native niche]

Yalld definitely built diffrent

[feral mist]

Not all of us have the luxury of sitting back and drinking team heals. We gotta support our comrades in the front lines somehow

[north ravine]

Well, that's more of the heart of the bag

[feral mist]

...touché

[north ravine]

(Also, same game as the one where I stuck my 1st bag in the ground)

[feral mist]

Lol had to make up for that first bag somehow

[native niche]

Team heals are made to do that

You spawn them

👀 👀 👀 👀

And you got cannons

That arch

Teamate just needs to ping or you have visual

[feral mist]

Not all teammates are coordinated like that, especially if you don't vc 😭

[native niche]

Type support etc

Thats what I been doing now

Trying to communicate

Eventually you will run into my viewers etc

[native niche]

Trying to make the randoms understand its a team game

[copper ocean]

1v3 or nothing 🙏🏿
Go big or go home

[random moth]

Wman plays Momo fully support mode

Bro spends half the match in the storm

[feral mist]

True

[native niche]

You haven't seen my fixer build yet thats wild

[native niche]

And i still get 5 plus kills a game

[feral mist]

The last thing Aizawa saw after I press melee 3 times

[weary pond]

us momo mains when we just get used by monoma and toga. "what I'm I to you a joke"

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-here-for-you-to-use-sinqua-walls-don-cornelius-american-soul-dont-take-me-for-granted-gif-17482483

[viral lynx]

Finally got the last bit of Ibara data I needed for to try it out

Honestly Revenge Support hasn't been doing all that much anyway recently so I might as well

[native niche]

Wait till you have the real costume

Don't burn the data on free outfits

[viral lynx]

I have the casual base outfit already maxed ;p all I did was replace revenge support with divine prot

so basically this but the special tunings are strike bakugo and ibara and iida replaced with rapid all might

[native niche]

Hold up idk what i even talking about here

Do you boss

[viral lynx]

I was following up on a discussion I had with Subarashi yesterday ;p

[native niche]

Exactly

[viral lynx]

I have no idea what your point was ;-;

[native niche]

Idk

Me neither

I just woke up

[viral lynx]

I didn't put divine prot on a non-pur don't worry ;p

[viral veldt]

ques has anyone tried trance blow and embrittlement?

oh scratch that she doesn't have an outfit for it thats sad 💔

[feral mist]

That works better on Kendo anyway lol

[viral lynx]

Anyone aware of any bugs related to Momo that they might want fixed? I'm trying to compile a list and submit some feedback about them to see if it can get enough upvotes to maybe be noticed?

So far I was thinking of bringing up how items from Momo's lucky bag can clip into in-game objects and how Momo's beta hitbox feels like it's not actually connected to her (it seems to be slightly in front of the actual attack)

Any input would be appreciated

[rocky bronze]

There's this slightly irritating bug with gamma that makes it slightly bend out of the original aim after the first shot that annoys me lately

Also the obviously completely bugged to oblivion beta

[viral lynx]

That's how it's meant to work afaik, each shot goes a bit farther than the last

[rocky bronze]

Fair

[viral lynx]

But yeah I'm not sure how specifically the beta was bugged, I was definitely planning on bringing it up though

[rocky bronze]

It doesnt deal damage in most instances when ur dashing on someone, the damage if it happens is delayed by a second and a few frames, people can still dodge through it afaik

Also the bag's luck is still kinda iffy, i mostly get greens all the time even when i already have them in my items and my teammates do as well

Also with the way the game has become a rapid metaverse there should be some discussion over giving her 350 hp to keep up with being easily killed by alot of the meta rapids and assault ura

[native niche]

I love to get greens

They be giving me nasty blue

[cyan quarry]

I can't exactly remember which Momo video I did, but I showcased it in one of these

[viral lynx]

Yeah her beta was REALLY done dirty 💔 After seeing this I'm wondering if it IS an issue with the hitbox placement or if it's bugged in some other way

[cyan quarry]

Those aren't the only videos I have of it, just the only compilation I had, or at least remembered

The one where they're down but I can't DMG them is REALLY annoying

[viral lynx]

Especially since it was a Dabi 😭

I resorted to alpha and melee to confirm them bc gamma might launch them too far but not kill them if I don't place it properly

[north ravine]

Momo is already a 350 health character; she's never had any adjustments to her HP.

[rocky bronze]

I didnt notice it lmao

[north ravine]

If anything, it's just a sign of how deadly everything is

[rocky bronze]

Yep

I was under the impression it was 300

[north ravine]

Cementoss was the nuisance who got a HP buff

[rocky bronze]

Giving her 400 would be good

[north ravine]

And the thing that REALLY grinds my gears is it was also determined he needed 1 additional ammo to alpha

[rocky bronze]

And iida remains unscathed

[north ravine]

At least they patched some things that he had, such as deactivating recipro by leveling it up so he could avoid the penalty.

On another note, I think now would be the perfect time to punish characters who borrow/steal quirks; if you swap off your quirks while Recipro is active, it is treated as running out of Recipro.

[wide niche]

she dont need that

jumping momo is how you beat her most of the time

if she's left unnoticed she will grief the lobby

https://tenor.com/view/perfectly-balanced-infinity-war-thanos-balance-all-things-should-be-balanced-gif-16273067

thats why i say just protect ur momos

or let them protect you

[rocky bronze]

A character's survival being dependant on teammates is a negative point

[wide niche]

never said it wasn't

nor is she the only character that deals with that

if every character was overly self-sufficient like the top tiers this game would only become less team-oriented

and giving momo 400hp would not fix the issue you speak of

[rocky bronze]

It already is hitting that point with solo q being more active than third stack after the matchmaking changes

[wide niche]

the matchmaking changes we got this season is the worst thing they've done for this game in a long time

[rocky bronze]

And thats compared to never nerfing iida

[feral mist]

THIS! 👏

P 👏 R 👏 O👏C👏T👏E👏C👏T

Y👏O👏U👏R👏

M👏O👏M👏O👏S

If I actually had folks protecting me I wouldn't need wall runner

Instead I usually end up doing the protecting. Like I know it's my job but supports need support too 😭

[viral lynx]

nobody seems to get this and it ends up with me having to clutch for randoms who play high-mobility characters I can't keep up with ;-;

[feral mist]

Ikr

[kindred cobalt]

they switch to rapids bc they didnt find any protection themselves in the past too 🥹 . especially if ur solo player theres no other choice but to play self sufficient hero 🤌

[distant spoke]

What would a good tuning build be for someone that only has the otherworld (the knight armor) costume?

[distant spoke]

Thanks!

I was probably going to run this, the only wallrunner option x)

Ton of Y reload that looks nice

[copper ocean]

And it has a decent number of strike tunings to boost your damage a bit.

[wide niche]

highkey they should make it so that momo's M3 tracks vertically as well

[north ravine]

Considering how it only travels in a straight line and fails often on any sloped surfaces/hills, it'd be a welcome addition

[feral mist]

Indeed

[native niche]

That will be broken on 400

Yalls wild

When yalls gonna join the other momo side

👀

[distant spoke]

Oh that looks fun as well!

[rocky bronze]

Unless theyre reqdy to nerf the damage on all these characters lately released

Thats the only thing that could help her

[native niche]

Momo perfect the way she is

All whats crazy is probably the playstyle

[rocky bronze]

Only in storm stalling which is not the name of the game

[native niche]

Don't blame stuff on mobility from time. Sometimes I can be your own positioning.

[rocky bronze]

Also saying that with beta being non functional is crazy

[native niche]

Idk i never use beta to aggro much

I use it block pathways and trap pple

[rocky bronze]

[native niche]

I've just been using cannons most my time

And healing team

[night wraith]

is it worth tuning without a skin

[viral veldt]

the slow mo's are killing me 😭

[last condor]

Is this good? Or is the upcoming sonic racing game better?

[feral mist]

Sonic Crossworlds isn't even out yet

But the game is really good. I love pulling off stuns like this

You can even ride vehicles but they rarely show up in my experience

[last condor]

Is this sonic?

[feral mist]

No it's Mario Kart World

[last condor]

Oh ok

I dont understand why they dont release mario kart for ps

More player, bigger community

More sales

[feral mist]

Because Nintendo isn't 3rd party like SEGA

[last condor]

-.-

[feral mist]

Silly Monoma. You can't just spam cannons and expect to win. They must be carefully and delicately placed

[north ravine]

Honestly, whenever my friends copy me, I just aim ahead of where they're firing since I know they're going to just aim directly at the spot the enemy is at.

(Also the guy is so traumatized he only moves through rolling after a while)

PSA: Rapid All Might's gamma doesn't care.

[feral mist]

Lol

[feral mist]

Me minding my own business:
Monoma:

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-sasuke-naruto-vs-sasuke-sasuke-vs-naruto-og-naruto-gif-25021620

[random moth]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-lee-primary-lotus-naruto-gaara-chunin-exams-gif-26441747

[north ravine]

"Prepare for trouble!"
"And make it double!"

[feral mist]

Ain't no way 💀

[modern edge]

Compress 💔

[native niche]

Stuff is satisfying in the air

[random moth]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-gif-3403616098614705012

[feral mist]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-gif-3403616098614705012

[feral mist]

I could never do this on switch 1 cuz the game lagged too much for me on crossplay

[native niche]

Ready to carry me now

My teamate earlier today died with momo 3 times

[feral mist]

Lol sure

I'll be using my switch account since I haven't gotten Ace there yet

[native niche]

Not atm tho at work

[feral mist]

Ah ok

[native niche]

Monday-wensday I got no work

[feral mist]

Ok

I work those days tho

[native niche]

The time you got off we can play unless you gonna be free 9pm pst

Today

[feral mist]

Nah I won't be

[jolly torrent]

What do you think is Momo's favorite band or artist?

[cyan quarry]

Apparently Jiro got her addicted to heavy metal, so maybe "Lovebites"?

[weary pond]

I though it would be some classical music,since she is always talking bout tea and her fam being rich. like a prestigous class

but anywho look yall her beta is totally fixed btw.(honestly it was never fixed, i think it's just worse than before season 10

The 1st one, I was like ok fair pass-able then the 2nd one , I was like OK he didn't even dodge but thought ok I didn't him directly in the middle so cool (which it should be able to hit him regardless if it is on the center or edge of the shield) Then 3rd one, 100% should've hit him regardless if he dodge or not.

Honestly,I think her shield is a moving projectile that shields the player from attacks like tech shotos' fire tornados instead of being an actual object when placed down. idk tho

Also the blue and pink outlines are so misleading just remove them devs, actual impractical.
Cosmetics ‹ Usage

😠

[feral mist]

I wanna give a shout-out to these randoms. Best teammates I've had all day (even though I still had to carry the team)

Also if you want to give your teammates items, please ping. I thought there was an enemy nearby he startled me.

[rare snow]

I’m definitely going to grind switch once I get the switch 2

[random moth]

Best highlight of today

[feral mist]

I can actually play on cross play now thanks to switch 2 without 15 fps and everything in slow motion now

[feral mist]

Lol

The strike shigi didn't know I play Momo like a rapid character so you can't escape from me when there's buildings nearby

Man I really wish I had festival yukata on PS so I can run my main build over there also

[random moth]

We love wall runner shinanegons

[feral mist]

Yes we do

[native niche]

Anything new here 👀 👀 👀

[north ravine]

...Not much else to really say except fix beta when really.

Too deep into the seasonal license to make another build, the meta matchups were labbed, and today is feeling like a lazy dailies only kinda day.

[random moth]

Thoughts on indestructible tuning on Momo? When I'm getting chased I'd place cannons to the floor to get the chaser off me/damage them
But in some cases cannon placement gets interrupted, especially against frogs
So i thought indestructible would solve that

[native niche]

Go into a room and blow it up or block off the doors

[north ravine]

Best solos performance I've ever had (Crossplay on).

[north ravine]

on another note... The heck is up with that Strike Kiri's name?

[feral mist]

No idea. I've seen some pretty unhinged names in mhur 💀

[north ravine]

Look, the Ochaco is flying!

The screams of joy must mean she liked the experience.

[feral mist]

Lol

[north ravine]

God that 2nd clip... How are they a higher rank and not know about Momo's tools?

1st person to die in a horror film levels of intelligence

[feral mist]

Ikr lol

[random moth]

Bro thought he got away

[viral lynx]

lmao nobody ever sees that last hit of melee coming

if only it also tracked vertically 😔

[feral mist]

W

[random moth]

If only 😔

[random moth]

0 iq.

[north ravine]

0 IQ is a rapidly spreading epidemic in Ultra Rumble; be sure to stay safe.

[feral mist]

11 seasons and ppl still case Momo in buildings/corners insane

Probably the same folks screaming "NERF CANNONS"

[viral lynx]

that's basically anyone who doesn't play Momo 😭

[rare snow]

It’s overdone but there’s some logic to it

[random moth]

LOLLL true

[random moth]

Many people immediately press a button on wake up it's sad

[random moth]

Here's some clips about this

(i messed up shield placement in the shiggy clip but it worked anyways lol, he could've gotten away)

Or he would've gotten away either way

[tough slate]

Average Rapid player

(Ignore my role)

[coral crest]

Hello momo mains

[random moth]

[random moth]

Hey Jo

[coral crest]

Bruh

[tough slate]

🫩

[random moth]

?

[wide niche]

might be in the gutter

[feral mist]

I don't get it

Nerf or buff?

[wide niche]

nerf

[feral mist]

So longer reload time?

[wide niche]

down power = knockdown value

like how 3 alphas will always knock an opponent down

[feral mist]

Oh

[wide niche]

when DP exceeds 500 they go into hard knockdown

so 2 hits of cannon = hard knockdown instead of 3

or worse

but damage will be lower

simply because the invincibility will kick in sooner

[feral mist]

Ah

I guess I'll have to see how this plays out before I give my input

Twice got a 1 damage nerf btw 🤣

[tough slate]

Nerfed because an autistic crashout

Wow 😭

[feral mist]

I'm almost Ace on switch but randoms held me back as usual

It's pathetic how a switch user is out performing other console users for teammates cuz I'm on 30 fps for pete sake

[feral mist]

After giving it some more thought, my initial opinion hasn't changed. I don't think the cannon nerf is that bad (unless all you do is spam 3 cannons at once) at least it won't affect my play style.

[random moth]

I bet these Momo nerfs are due to Monoma spamming cannons

So they decided to nerf Momo herself rather than Monoma himself? He got 0 nerfs

That's crazy

The change likely won't bother me much
But the fact the Monoma is untouched is... 💔

[feral mist]

Precisely

What a shame.

[viral veldt]

momo didnt deserve this.

[rare snow]

I’ve been asking for this specific Momo nerf 😭

(Now she needs buffs aside from cannons)

[distant spoke]

What nerf?

Oooh it knocks down faster now

[rocky bronze]

Monoma is op so lets make her entirely useless !!!!

[wide niche]

as i thought

no more stalling with the second fire on somebody's wakeup

and if anyone was wondering how surprise cannons were impacted

can't even get a guard break anymore 🪦

DP changes to characters i like has to be my least favorite type of change they can do

i would have rather taken a damage nerf than this

[north ravine]

Balancing Monoma without directly touching his kit. A new low for the devs.

[native niche]

i guard break still you probably got the wrong tuning

[wide niche]

maybe

[west lily]

good god i feel sorry for yall

and me a lil. momo nice to chill out with

now u cant even get dopamine from cannons 😦

[tight meadow]

Yeah, knockback on cannons is kinda crazy

They did y’all bad 😔

[west lily]

give mona 50% more knockback on all moves. they fina nerf the whole cast wit thier logic

maybe another reason y cem alph was nerfed tbh

[wide niche]

im convinced they nerfed momo to try and compensate for monoma abusing cannons

little do they know its not gonna make any difference

[native niche]

Facts i was telling my chat just put a blanket damage nerf for him. Or they gonna ruin characters just to fix him

[weary pond]

I think so to .. man ugh

[viral veldt]

lowkey cant play momo anymore after this nerf she doesn't feel the same

[native niche]

She's fine just require team to be team

Its time

[weary pond]

It's literally some highschool IQ thinking . Tip-toe around the problem and stall.

[feral mist]

Good ol byking logic

[north ravine]

Base Momo cannon damage is 120; 2 cannonballs never broke guard. My Fixer Momo build hits around the low 140s and 150s, so I could still break guard on 2 hits.

[wide niche]

okay maybe 2 cannonballs alone but i'm accounting for the dolls as well

[north ravine]

The devs were bottoms for Cementoss for so long. They probably fought a Monoma who spammed the alpha to the point they rage quit

[wide niche]

lower DP is what allowed that to happen hence more frequent guard breaks

[north ravine]

Honestly, the dolls are going to be nearly irrelevant now

[wide niche]

unfortunately

i tried a game with her earlier, cannons still have a presence indoors but they aren't as deadly as before

[viral veldt]

💔 I dont have good enough teammates for this

[feral mist]

I'm about to hop on mhur and test out these cannon nerfs myself

[viral veldt]

may momo's soul rip

[north ravine]

They can't hit 3 times now, and 2 will put the enemy in free fall; I think the Momo meta will revolve around taking full advantage of her high DP now to knock people to the floor over and over

[feral mist]

Yea

[viral veldt]

Ion see it

[feral mist]

At least I have more of an excuse to keep my cannons to myself since I prefer to use them as my shields anyway

[north ravine]

Maybe we can take some time to master the art of controlling the launch angle of the enemy using walls now

[viral veldt]

well now u can barely use cannons as a way to run away cs they'll be up before u know it and that 3rd cannon shot doing nothing against iframes

[north ravine]

The damage is still there; you'll have to use shields for cover (if they don't self destruct)

[viral veldt]

the broken beta

[north ravine]

It still works for blocking stuff while running, so it's not totally useless

[feral mist]

I wish they at least buffed Momo elsewhere in order to compensate (I want more alphas and a buffed beta pls)

[weary pond]

100%

[viral veldt]

by the time you start the beta the enemy has already recovered from the cannons

[north ravine]

How about a 3rd beta?

[feral mist]

.... actually that's fine

She could use a 3rd especially in this meta

[native niche]

Let that be the new skill set

She ok as is

No more nerfs tho

Or she done for

[feral mist]

I do want a new skill set but who knows when that'll be?

[viral veldt]

years

[feral mist]

All Might got a quirk set before Momo for pete sake

[native niche]

Idk 🤷‍♀️ next season hopefully

[feral mist]

I wish

[viral veldt]

she barely has costumes I doubt momo is anywhere near their radar

[feral mist]

She has plenty of costumes

More than Ibara and Cementoss

[viral veldt]

in comparison with other class 1A students?

[feral mist]

She's getting more emotes too

[north ravine]

Casual, Yukata, Quipao, Parallel World...

[feral mist]

^

[north ravine]

She's doing alright for a side character tbh

[feral mist]

Fr lol

[north ravine]

Denki may have a slight edge on her in costume count

[viral veldt]

I mean he's got a skillset so ig its gotta count for something

[north ravine]

A skill set ain't a costume.

Anyway, I don't think we will be waiting long for a new skill set

If they continue following their current formula they used in this season (1 character, 2 skill sets), I do think Momo will be within the next 6 skill sets

[viral veldt]

imo in general momo is less valued in mhur compared to her other classmates

[north ravine]

Well yeah, less importance than the big names ofc

No real villain antagonist specifically for her, mainly other student rivalries

However, I do think that the fact that Kendo is getting a skill set next is a sign Momo will likely get one sooner than the rest of the cast

Kendo is her first real school rival

AFO should also be seeing a new skill set soon too considering how All Might just got his own. They were trying to parallel the villain sets with the heroes for a decent while at the start.

[feral mist]

True

[feral mist]

As an Ibara main, trust me this is nothing

Ibara mains have it waaay worse

8 seasons for one new outfit and no reruns

[north ravine]

Ibara and Kendo are getting their 2nd costumes despite being in the game since launch

[feral mist]

^

Precisely

[wispy scroll]

My condolences to all of you today

[feral mist]

Thank you

[weary pond]

thanks

[feral mist]

Nerfs or not, we shall press on

[wide niche]

i'd rather they improve the startup on it rather than just give us a third one

[north ravine]

You know, I thought about it but what if they lowered the DP on the alpha and beta to compensate?

[wide niche]

meh

i liked how she was before

lowering the DP on alpha would actually make it more expensive in a way

[feral mist]

I want more alphas, even if it's just one more

[wide niche]

she doesn't get anything from keeping them standing longer on her own

would enable beamers more but otherwise we're spending 4+ just to refresh and try and get more alphas again

[weary pond]

Knowing the devs they probaly also change something without explaining it..

[north ravine]

That was the beta hitbox adjustments

[weary pond]

Which leads into my next question. Did they change the way her red idicator works?

[coral crest]

Prolly not

[north ravine]

Red indicator? There's a new visual bug I've been noticing as of late where the trajectory goes invisible, but it's always been bugged around any sort of danger areas like Strike Shigaraki's beta or Endeavor gamma

Momo's cannon has always been weird with the trajectory display

[weary pond]

Nah not that, i mean I swear we get less range now because the canons go up more quicker with the red lines

Idk how to explain it.

Like this

[north ravine]

The range hasn't been tampered with, and if you fire too high up, the next cannonballs shot can travel less distance forward than the 1st.

[weary pond]

oh ok

it's just me then

I was going to say it reaches the y axis more quicker, making it have less range

lol

[north ravine]

Yea, the 2nd and 3rd are fired slightly higher angled than the 1st

So some angles are actually worse for travel distance

[weary pond]

I'm talking about the input

here just give me a sec

[weary pond]

I remember being able to aim up but not all the way up and still be able to launch the projectile further away

Sorry for the bad quality i dont have a usb stick to transfer clips

Idk it might just be me being delusional. and it was always like this

[north ravine]

...it has always acted like that when fired at such an angle since the cannon angle changes between shots

The cannon itself is recoiling, and fires at the new angle caused by said recoil.

If you fire that close to a 90 degree angle, it will end up reaching that angle or getting close to it on the next shots

After all if you're firing the cannon straight forward, you'll see the next cannonballs going slightly further than the previous since the angle will change the trajectory

[weary pond]

alrighty

[north ravine]

You can see at the 28 second mark how after the 1st cannonball, the 2nd and 3rd basically fired at a 90 degree angle and went straight up.

[weary pond]

yeah yeah i see I had more of the clip but I don't have discord prime.. basically the same thing.

[north ravine]

No worries.

[tough slate]

https://tenor.com/view/itadori-itadori-yuji-jjk-juju-cry-gif-9437012985854787460

[pine trench]

are the momo nerfs that bad

[feral mist]

Embrittlement only does 10% dmg now so I'm taking it off Momo

[pine trench]

what u gonna run sisterly now?

[viral lynx]

The devs when they nerfed Momo but left Monoma and other problematic characters untouched:

https://tenor.com/view/sakurai-excited-happy-this-isnt-how-you-supposed-to-play-the-game-play-the-game-gif-15161132

[weary pond]

Exactly seems like im maining her yukata wall runner+nejy leap, I have to wait next season tho.

it sucks though it's because of the op characters that the low tier characters have to suffer the most

[random moth]

I'm gonna miss hitting downs like this
No more DopaMomomine 😔

[prisma yarrow]

Well all might isn’t mid

[feral mist]

I need that outfit on PS

[feral mist]

Lol

[wide niche]

not great but not god awful

its just bleh

ill have to keep playing and see how i feel

[pine trench]

Okk

[tough slate]

Cant take people serious

[north ravine]

Couldn't even spell eclipse... Probably button mashes out of wakeup.

[viral lynx]

so many people are saying it was "needed" but what was "needed" was a fix for monoma 😭

[tough slate]

Everyone that tried to argue Momo was too op and needed to be nerfed, it felt like ragebait so I just disengaged and now Im getting reddit posts boasting about it 🫩

[viral lynx]

I have so many people telling me that the cannons' RANGE justifies the nerf 😭

like "oh she can snipe you and kill you with 2 cannons" NOT IF YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION

[tough slate]

Cant tell an MHUR player that only plays meta what's what

I learned that long ago

[stiff meadow]

Stay strong Momo Mains, it will never be Momover.

[night wraith]

considering you can walk into a room, only to get 1 shot by the cannons with legit no recourse at full hp is definitely an issue that needed to be addressed lol

yall trippin if you dont think that it needed some sort of knockback at the very least let alone a nerf

[native niche]

Why you go into room for? 👀

If full hp

Go fight

[weary pond]

Same old I rather have a character nerf than adjust and be weary of a momo in my lobby

[native niche]

Or just watch for momos before dont neglect them if you know there power

[north ravine]

Momo is a pretty distinct character on the battlefield that you would have a hard time going a whole match without noticing.

[night wraith]

'why did you walk into a room in a battle royale game' jee i wonder why lol

[north ravine]

Heck, there's just certain characters in the game that you should just beware of simply by them existing like Tech Shoto.

[night wraith]

good thing they dont have their power anymore which is why they got nerfed xd

[night wraith]

good thing tech shoto cant spam gamma and instantly one shot you no recourse

[north ravine]

Actually for Momo mains Tech Shoto is pretty easy to deal with via beta shield.

[weary pond]

we all know why momo got nerfed

[night wraith]

im talking about momo one shotting people with gamma spam no recourse

[runic rapids]

Apparently

The nerf could come from monoma

If it’s that I understand but they should nerf him directly and not the character the copy come from

[north ravine]

She's still going to be able to dish out some nasty damage; heck, I'd be more concerned about how Momo players plan to use their newfound DP increase.

[viral lynx]

more opportunities to alpha on wakeup when people immediately go to use a mobility move 🙂‍↕️

[north ravine]

If anything, it opens up the possibility to even more chains of attacks.

[native niche]

Get high ground first

Pay attention to lobby at start of game and then play accordingly

You will them know not to go into rooms

[pine trench]

Momo may be tech dabi tier now

[feral mist]

W

[north ravine]

Haven't really had a chance to feel the nerfs since it feels like every single one of these crossplay players only picks assault Deku and timidly beams the entire time

It is kinda funny watching them try to break a singular beta shield via beaming though

[feral mist]

First time?

[native niche]

2nd for me

[weary pond]

momo still on top !

[viral veldt]

watching from the bottom

[feral mist]

Why do randoms insult you when they're the first to die?

After solo quing with Momo for a bit, I have some more opinions on the cannon knock down nerf

It makes it harder to solo q with Momo

Ngl I'd rather just use Ibara at this point

Getting 1v3 with no escape and now lack of defense sucks in solo q

Unranked or ranked, randoms stay incompetent trash

[feral mist]

In my initial thoughts, I thought the cannon nerfs weren't that bad but after solo quing for a bit with Momo, I realized it makes it even harder to defend against yourself.

Momo is kinda team reliant enough as is and if you have useless teammates (which is essentially no different than being alone) yea she's free eats.

I'd rather solo q with Ibara at this point

^deeper explanation

[north ravine]

I think the easiest way to phrase it is that Momo no longer has that same threat level anymore with how her cannon's potential was neutered.

For a character who has otherwise poor range and mobility, her devastating damage is just... Gone.

And if you do manage to hit someone with the cannons, good luck finding them lacking again; they've likely learned their lesson.

Momo is back to her usual self around level 9 cannons, but her early game is arguably as bad as Compress or Strike Shigaraki now

[native niche]

Always play in team its a team game

We got to tell people this is a team game

I we do tell. Who is

[native niche]

She lost dps

[native niche]

Them cannons is what made her good. Kill damage from a safe spot

Now nothing kills

[feral mist]

Yup

[feral mist]

Precisely

Even when she's level 9 you'll still have a hard time keeping an entire team off you

I lost a 1v3 yesterday night because my cannons couldn't kill the rat ochako as she has mobility and I don't

I killed the shinso and there was a tech denki left

[random moth]

People used to get super punished getting close to Momo

[feral mist]

I would have won if the cannons were nerfed

[random moth]

Now that doesn't work as good anymore

[feral mist]

Yup

Experience that last night while solo quing with Momo

When I was in a 3 stack earlier I was doing fine but had less kills

[feral mist]

I don't always want to play in a 3 stack just to hop on the game but every season it's becoming more apparent that I have absolutely no choice but to

Randoms alone make me wanna drop the game almost every season and I almost did back during the first 4 seasons

[feral mist]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeroUltraRumble/s/wEo2Mqct5p

Legit the only sane take I've seen on Momo yet it's getting downvoted (welcome to reddit)

[random moth]

It's them low IQ people who are too happy with the nerf

[distant spoke]

I do agree about everything except that Momo is not bottom one imo

[feral mist]

They are

[distant spoke]

But other than that yeah

Honestly I'm okay with the changes to the canon but it should have come with a bigger buff elsewhere

[feral mist]

I think it's obvious just by solo quing that majority of people who play this game genuinely lack common sense yet byking cater to these guys

[feral mist]

Exactly. Nerf cannons? Fine. I understand the complaints but just buff her elsewhere to compensate

[random moth]

If they really wanted to nerf cannons make it atleast 3 hits before hard knockdown

[feral mist]

Exactly

[random moth]

2 is too low

[feral mist]

Fr

[random moth]

Kills her cannon potential

[north ravine]

Momo's alpha needs to cause aerial opponents to "bounce" once off the ground

[random moth]

Like frog beta?

And red kiri alpha

[north ravine]

Yup; as it stands, when the enemy is on HP they just get spiked and then the combo is over

[feral mist]

Yea pretty much

[north ravine]

It'd help at least make things a bit more tolerable rather than catching the wakeup of the enemy 3 times and punishing for 50 damage each time

[feral mist]

Lowkey, no, highkey rather use Ibara over Momo now

[distant spoke]

Ibara is pretty good rn ngl, not even considering the double alpha

In teams

[random moth]

You can still hit 1 or 2 more alphas as they're falling, it's not a hard knockdown after just one hit

[distant spoke]

But that's only if you play with 2 other mates and not randoms

[feral mist]

She can back off teams jumping her better than Momo

Better range attacks too

[distant spoke]

I'd say it's more about the fact that she doesn't have as much "you lose" match-ups

[feral mist]

Yea that too

[random moth]

If anything, i think ibara deserves the same weight of nerf Momo received more

[distant spoke]

If you look at top agency teams, Ibara is pretty well represented, she was much more deserving of a nerf compared to Momo, at the very least a fix to double alpha because that stuff is nasty

I was stacking resources to build a Momo tuning, now I'm wondering if it's worth it...

[random moth]

Ibara is a slept on high A tier

[distant spoke]

Agreed

[feral mist]

I just need her casual skin man 😭

[random moth]

Devs hate Ibara in terms of skins because her undefeatable is the only non-PUR one

[feral mist]

Yea

Insane

[random moth]

Then there's Monoma who has the only PUR UA-tracksuit

New devs' favorite

[feral mist]

Lowkey I think I'm going to take a hiatus from this game in the future

[random moth]

Valid

[feral mist]

Like I've been wanting to for a long while now

And every season it's becoming more apparent I need to

[viral veldt]

idk I stopped playing momo now ig she feels like how it feels to be playing tech toga

[feral mist]

You too huh?

[final spire]

I said all this in my video LOL

[final spire]

Yeah characters been pummled

[final spire]

Said that too 😭

[feral mist]

I know I watched it

[final spire]

Catching up on my fellow Momo mains sentiments, i just tested her out and was constantly being pushed by 4-5 players at a time

I no longer feel like a porcupine, and Momos too slow to be a gazlle, shes a defenseless sloth now

[final spire]

Tech toga wins the matchup now

[final spire]

Exactly! Rather than make players learn matchups, playing smart, its just my first battle royale baby simulator

[final spire]

Time to pick up brain dead secondary

[final spire]

You dont ALWAYS have the option to play in a TEAM. Sometimes you are forced to solo que. Solo que Momo is just gonna be pain from now on

[viral veldt]

108 beta dmg

[final spire]

Skill issue if you arent aware of your surroundings, map positioning and enemy locations to where youd actually lose to a momo

[final spire]

The devs are spineless

[viral veldt]

worst thing is that when its a damage nerf u can use tuning to possibly get close or higher then what it was before but theres jst no compensation for the momo nerf that'll get close

[final spire]

Real! Carried kids have brainworms

[final spire]

Imagine playing since season 1 and not being able to figure out how to deal with one of the slowest characters, easiest to avoid attacks in the game

[final spire]

Stealing

[tough slate]

😭

[final spire]

Driven by selling the broken characters and skill sets. As someone who poured alot of $$ into this game since season 1, Its high time I stop

[final spire]

And they did nothing to compensate here with this nerf. Shes gutted and again, in UNRANKED, people are pushing Momo like crazy. Its open season.

[viral veldt]

yall think they nerfed her cannons cs of tamaki?

[final spire]

I think they did it because of Monoma and also because they are spineless and listen to whomever complains the loudest

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1361375148380524580/1374723420083851344/be2fe55135e3782e1a79ab6bd23a3b67.gif

[viral veldt]

jst isnt worth all the hasle anymore 1 player is managable but if ur being rushed by more players she cant really use her cannons as a defense

[viral veldt]

money hungry devs

[final spire]

I dropped a vid yesterday about it

#community-content message

And rapids still have too much hp and deal too much damage. Smh

What is BALANCE?!

What is an anti cheat?!

I hate that Im addicted to this game because its so bad

Maybe this will be the change that makes me quit

[wide niche]

i just want it to stagger them mid-air

same as the ground

[final spire]

We’re asking for too much. Lets not fix the beta for 4 seasons and yknow what, lets take away 3 more charges from alpha

Really put her into the ground,
Grind her into dust

Feel like im playing dead by daylight with the chasedown Im getting from everyone as Momo

[distant spoke]

But it does? Or am I missing something ??

[north ravine]

Momo's alpha doesn't function the same against HP as it does on GP; when you hit someone who is airborne and has GP, they properly put their hands up to block it and do not move much.

[distant spoke]

Yup

[north ravine]

However, if the enemy is airborne and hit by alpha while on HP, they are immediately launched at a diagonal downwards angle away from Momo, and on contact with the ground, instantly ends the combo.

[distant spoke]

I never noticed

Or I forgot

[north ravine]

So if someone like Kaminari immediately hops up and attempts to gamma away and you alpha him, he is hit and immediately makes contact with the floor.

[distant spoke]

I usually single tap on alpha anyway

Yeah I get it, I guess I forgot it worked this way

[north ravine]

Imagine if Froppy hits her beta while airborne and the moment the enemy touches the ground, that's it. No attempt at a followup beta.

[distant spoke]

I mean it does happen from time to time so not hard to imagine x)

[north ravine]

But if it were the intended way for Froppy to fight, she'd be terrible.

[distant spoke]

For sure

Froppy has even better reward when hitting people high up x)

I guess they could've fixed that

[north ravine]

In any case, Momo needs something to make up for the fact they took away her cannon presence.

[distant spoke]

But Momo is still (or was, right until the nerf, idk about today) suuuper played at least in EU servers

So that's (maybe) why she didn't get help and got nerfed

[native niche]

We got to find way to help randoms

[native niche]

Crator of skill gap in community

[random moth]

That's why i spam my alpha button before they hit the ground to get the most damage possible

You can get the full 3 hits

I think it's situational but it can happen

[random moth]

True 💔

[weary pond]

So the best thing momo has going for her now is the alpha,half a sec pause,alpha,half a sec pause , melee half a sec pause while a teammate that has a character that can beam without knockdown.

[feral mist]

I don't want to help these low iq folks because they clearly don't want to help themselves let alone you

[weary pond]

for crazy amount of dmg

[native niche]

They really just nerfed momo and gave nothing in return

[native niche]

You can still guard break with gamma

Just chaser have to follow up

[feral mist]

These are same folks screaming nerf Momo

[weary pond]

yah

[random moth]

Mhm

"nerf Momo" while doing plays like this

[feral mist]

Fr lol

I finally just won a game with Momo on solo q and it was tough because everyone kept jumping me knowing they were guaranteed to survive

Only got 2 kills and 3 assist kills that game

I would have gotten more by playing Ibara smh

I don't have wall runner + spiraling leap on PS for Momo btw

[random moth]

I'm just living off wall runner + GP sucker currently
I need that spiraling jump these strike shiggys been torturing me 💔

[feral mist]

My condolences

I need wall runner cuz a high jump can only do so much

[modern edge]

Cursed dm’d me and said he wants momo to have more nerfs

[rare snow]

Me when I’m playing kendo and refuse to fight a Momo in a building 😭

[weary pond]

it's all g at least we are not like some "self proclaimed" nejire mains when as soon as she got nerfed they dropped her .

[native niche]

More nerfs 👀 👀 👀 👀

[feral mist]

I fought you earlier while you were Kendo in storm. I was trying to help my useless Mirio out when you and your Ibara intervined. Gg

[rare snow]

THAT WAS TOU

YOU

[feral mist]

Man I wish I had Ibara casual

[rare snow]

RAHHH

THAT WAS SO ANNOYING LOL

[feral mist]

I didn't know it was you until I died lol

Was only trying to help my teammates out

[rare snow]

I was so confused why you were all the way in storm too

[feral mist]

Yea it was to help my mirio

Who happened to be a useless random

I hate rapids for teammates

[rare snow]

I think that was the same match I was referring to

[feral mist]

Ah

[rare snow]

I saw you go into that building and intentionally ran away

[feral mist]

I didn't even want to go there lol

But the insta rez only has so much range

[rare snow]

Everytime I’ve been playing kendo, I usually have to storm camp or run looking for res cards 😭

[feral mist]

I had nothing

I was lagging too

[rare snow]

Tbh I was focusing your ibara and other teammate hard

I forgot who the other person was but I wanted them dead

[feral mist]

I was the Ibara

[rare snow]

Ahh

[feral mist]

None casual outfit

[rare snow]

Oh not the Momo?

[feral mist]

No

[rare snow]

Either way, I was trying to get you off the table lol, can’t let you breaking through my shields

[feral mist]

We could have gotten a rematch too but my friend crashed (we were duoing) and I had to pickup my car from the autoshop so I left the lobby

[feral mist]

Ik it's understandable

Everyone but me has good teammates when I'm not on switch

I'm used to it

[steep marsh]

Being in a building with momo is the same as being in a building strike shigi

[rare snow]

I haven’t gotten good solo queue teammates recently

[feral mist]

Ever since I reach expert I get little to no good teammates

[rare snow]

How ironic

[feral mist]

Literally getting queued with ppl lower rank than me

[rare snow]

I went on two week vacation and came back then got ace the next day lol

[feral mist]

I know byking is doing it on purpose because they wanna cater to the noobs and have us carry them but I hate randoms with a passion because most of them are so low iq braindead monkies who only cares about getting kills

Excuse my crashout

[rare snow]

Me when I openly go into storm to emote on the downed assault all might as froppy

[feral mist]

Lol

[rare snow]

(I hate assault all might more than anything in this game btw)

[feral mist]

Can't say I blame ya

Monoma has more of my hatred

[rare snow]

I killed 2 assault all mights and one clone might that round, I died happy

The lobby was purged of all might

[feral mist]

Lol

[rare snow]

I think once I get enough data, I’m going to swap trance blow for willpower on my wall run build for Momo

[feral mist]

I really wish byking would had cross progression already

I want to use yukata Momo on PS

[rare snow]

So I can log in to get the tickets when I’m not home

[modern edge]

Idk what @final spire was thinking

[modern edge]

#2 mom putting their input in

[north ravine]

That's if they're high enough up; I'm talking more about wake up hits where they're so close to the ground that 1 alpha just scorpions them instantly.

[feral mist]

Been playing mhur majority of the day.

Didn't see a single team with Momo win

[weary pond]

So just i hit 58 on guard and like 30 sum dmg on hp

Is this intentional with nerf, is this how the nerf should operate?

[feral mist]

Nerf makes it so that 2 cannons hit puts you in hard knockdown

Idk maybe it's a skill issue for me. Solo quing is gaslighting me into thinking I just suck at the game

[viral veldt]

kinda funny how they compensated all the other nerfs but not momo

[native niche]

I got you

Team up when?

😈

[feral mist]

I already got Ace on PS and Switch so I'll be taking a break from mhur

[native niche]

Avoiding the team up i see. 👀 👀 👀

[feral mist]

I wanted to play with you before but our schedules conflict because of work remember?

Besides I really need to take a break from this game. It's kinda a waste of my time

[native niche]

I got Tuesday and wensday off

[feral mist]

And I work those days

[native niche]

I stream whole day so you can get a gane or 2 in trust

[feral mist]

No need bro. I'm taking a break for my own mental sanity

[final spire]

The other thing not being discussed that I also failed to mention is - OTHER moves have down power too, meaning sometimes 1 canon ball can put them into knockdown if theyve already acquired some level of knockdown

[final spire]

I may do the same as well….

[feral mist]

With the new nerf? Personally wouldn't recommend unless you 3 stack for the sake of your own mental sanity but if you do I wish you luck on your endeavor.

[feral mist]

Yea no lie has me feeling like I've gotta use everything in my arsenal just to hand over one L. I might as well use assault deku at this point.

[final spire]

I always liken it to playing smash bros melee. I shouldnt have to wavedash and l-cancel while someone just button mashes. Why are we playing 2 diff games but my tech barely keeps me alive and their brainless character keeps them thriving? Pay 2 win

[feral mist]

Facts lol

[foggy sandal]

because I don't see it done enough, you can roll at the end of your shield bash/run and you go through the shield

useful if you're trying to use it for cover while running away/past someone

[native niche]

Pple really be mad they not able to chase momo into a room and cook her before cannon nerf

👀

[native niche]

No 3 stack solo Q

Carry me when

[cyan quarry]

"been praying for those cannon nerfs since S1"

[native niche]

Thats crazy

[cyan quarry]

Why did it reply to that msg.
Wrong msg but funny

[native niche]

We better be getting new skill set next season then because of this nerf

[cyan quarry]

I meant to reply to this one, but I guess discord said nah.

[copper ocean]

This happening after the nerf is still crazy

[random moth]

Now watch them ask for more cannon nerfs because of this

[copper ocean]

I'd better hide the video real quick

[random moth]

Frfr

[native niche]

The nerf really happened that crazy. I still can't get over it

[cyan quarry]

"we gotta nerf compress next, his trucks can basically one shot you with no knockdown. Been praying for those nerfs since S1 too."
"He punishes you for wanting to just standing still."

[native niche]

That alpha cooks you if you in mid air no falling to ground. I remember him stunning me when I was running up wall. I didn't survive

Just stunned to death

[feral mist]

You see these are the EXACT SAME PEOPLE complaining nerf cannons

Siiigh ok discord.

I would have been livid if I perished there

[feral mist]

I AM

TAKING

A

BREAK!

https://tenor.com/view/boruto-xvnauf-funy-angry-gif-18972573

[feral mist]

LOL

[north ravine]

If anything, it's more of the fact that people are so adjusted to Momo's old damage that they can easily leave before they're within down range.

Momo is no longer a character who can genuinely defend herself and punish enemies enough to make them regret it.

[feral mist]

I see. Also I 💯 agree with that last statement

[north ravine]

Oh, they got hit by 2 Fixer cannonballs? ~280 damage, guard is broken but now they're airborne and can flee with whatever mobility tool they have.

[feral mist]

P a i n

[north ravine]

Nothing a big shield and a mini health can't solve, now to try again. Or, if they're a beaming, never approach and simply shoot alphas until Momo is close enough to alpha or beta.

You end up doing 1500 damage, but when you look at WHO you've damaged, you realize you've spent more than half the match hurting the same idiot for a third of the match.

That basically sums up my Solos Momo experience now

5000+ damage, 4 or less KOs.

[feral mist]

My issue with the nerf is that it made Momo much harder to solo q with because she's already team reliant enough as is and you're usually queued with complete imbeciles who have little to no concept of teamwork leaving you alone and out to get chased/jumped into buildings majority of the time so now you have little ways to punish/push folks away from you

[feral mist]

Same with my Momo, and that's on a good day

Meanwhile I use Ibara

[north ravine]

It's basically Ibara's situation; 1-on-1 you can destroy people. 2-on-1 becomes dicey. 3-on-1 just becomes a game of how much HP/GP the trio can give up to trade blows with Ibara until she goes down.

[feral mist]

Yup

[stuck mason]

this is exactly how pre-buff Tech Denki felt, I am sorry for Momos loss <\3

[north ravine]

Then again Ibara is bugged in a genuinely useful way so if anything she has an advantage and a half over Momo who's bugged in a bad way.

[feral mist]

We appreciate your empathy 🙏

[north ravine]

That alpha literally can hit as hard as Momo's cannons rn

[feral mist]

I know about the bug but I don't use it

I don't know how to activate it

[north ravine]

It's a bug that just triggers randomly upon hitting the enemy

[feral mist]

And if I did I'll try my best to avoid doing so

[north ravine]

I think it's something to do with Ibara's alpha having a hitbox that applies knockback, and then a part of the hitbox that doesn't have any knockback to it

[feral mist]

Oh

Interesting

[north ravine]

So basically, the no knockback hitbox just applies multiple times over and just hollow purples the enemy.

You've seen those moments where the alpha only hits like 1 time right?

[feral mist]

Yea

[north ravine]

That would be the knockback part of the move

My guess is that the 50 wet noodle hitboxes they slap on fail to interact with the environment properly and just like Momo's beta hitbox, the devs will eventually notice it through their double eye patches.

After all, the Twice users seem to inflict the most damage with alpha so that means it's clearly the problem

And not the move that stunlocks and holds the enemy in place and can combo into itself

[feral mist]

So it's come to this huh?

[north ravine]

A full barrage only dealing 93 damage instead of 96? Preposterous.

[stuck mason]

a Twice wrecked me but I couldn’t even be mad because I remembered the nerf and how hard the life of a Twice player is

[feral mist]

My condolences

Yes Twice players have it very rough rn

[north ravine]

God being a Twice main must be so hard. Having to keep the enemy on screen is hard enough when you're 8 Bud Lites in and still using only 1 hand.

[feral mist]

Ikr

[stuck mason]

Momo Twice has to be one the most skill reliant characters in this game, i feel so bad for their nerf

[north ravine]

And the worst part is having to press the buttons to attack. Like... Seriously. You have to press the beta button to spawn the clone

Like... The risk reward there is too much to handle

[stuck mason]

hopefully Twice gets buffed soon

[feral mist]

Yes, he definitely needs a buff

[north ravine]

Allow him to have 2 betas and let both clones exist at the same time; he should be at least mid-tier after that.

[feral mist]

Fr it's too much to button pressing. Way more than Momo

[north ravine]

After all those knives are no longer effective

They were nerfed to the GROUND

[feral mist]

Yea 1 dmg less? My condolences

Unplayable

[stuck mason]

might as well be worse than purple dabi

[feral mist]

Yup

[random moth]

Ice in his crashout arc

[feral mist]

Yes

[random moth]

Can't blame you though

[feral mist]

Thank you for understanding

Every season my patience for this game slowly dwindles

[random moth]

Understandable

This season I've been averaging 2-3 matches per day at most then hop off

[feral mist]

Ngl I should have done the same. Unfortunately I'm too stubborn for my own good

I've decided this will be my last season getting Ace on two platforms. I'm gonna only get Ace on PS from here on out until further notice

[random moth]

I'm very stubborn as well but these days I've been having stuff that i gotta do and keep me busy

So i just go "not worth it, better do what I'm supposed to do"

[feral mist]

Good. This game isn't worth your mental clarity

[north ravine]

Considering Momo is apparently the problem and not the glue sniffer Twice or Monoma, it just isn't as worthwhile to try and enjoy playing Momo as much.

[feral mist]

Yup. Thank goodness Momo isn't my only main let alone my first lol

Sad to see this happen after 11 seasons but it is what it is

[north ravine]

Feels like we've pulled a reverse Compress

[feral mist]

Fr lol

[north ravine]

Hopefully Momo does get a skill set within the next 3 seasons

[feral mist]

That's what I'm hoping for

My plan is to save up 2k tickets on switch and PS in case that becomes true

And after I get 2k tickets from whichever platform I'm taking a hiatus from that console

I almost have 2k tickets on switch already (I had 4k before but didn't use all of them)

[north ravine]

Honestly speaking, I think the devs really dislike people who diligently save; each time I've saved to 2k or 4k, I've had to go to 200 points pity in some of the worst gacha sessions ever.

Wanted to grab Rapid Toga? Too bad, 0 skill sets, only 6 total PUR costumes (2 new).
Wanted Present Mic? Only got him on the 20th multi (at least allowing me to pity Hawks).

Wanted AFO on his OG banner? Had to pity him.

[feral mist]

Cuz they want us to spend money

That's why I just single roll

[north ravine]

I've had better luck when I go into banners with only 1k tickets

[feral mist]

Ikr

[north ravine]

Like Rapid All Might? Pulled him 3 times, got Ochaco skill set too.

[feral mist]

No luck on AM or ochako for me

[north ravine]

Strike Dabi? Pulled him 4 times and Assault Shigi.

I think the only time I got strange luck and went to pity was Shinso's banner, where I got like Aizawa 4 times and Shinso too

Grabbed Kurogiri through that banner since I got Shinso after the 16th or 17th multi.

[feral mist]

Majority of my rolls came from singles

On both PS and Switch

[north ravine]

Eh, despite the miniscule odds difference, I just prefer the guarantee at least.

And it also would take forever to go through 100-200 singles

[feral mist]

That's understandable

If I have enough to pity what I want and don't want to risk it not getting it I'll do a 10x roll but I usually get it before that actually happens

[final spire]

literally someone was complaining earlier about momo canons and getting shot across the map. they had like just done a finishing move or something...... i was like....say you have a skill issue without saying you have a skill issue.

[weary pond]

I've noticed it like two and half seasons ago, I don't know if it was a shadow nerf to her specifically or it was a change in combat for everyone.

The reason I say that it might be for everyone. Is because there are times were im melee'ing someone or using stun. And for whatever reason they don't get stun or even knocked down .

i think i brought up to completely different points

[north ravine]

It's likely more of the game just failing to check properly if the player should be invulnerable to combos due to hard knockdown

I once had a combo where I hit beta > beta as Momo on someone who wasn't downed

[weary pond]

hmm yeah was it always like this? I've only noticed a a couple of seasons ago

[north ravine]

Momo beta has always been hard knockdown in 1 hit; it's 500...

Hitting 2 in a combo shouldn't be possible.

[native niche]

Facts. Thats what happens when pple choose to fight. If the battle is long a third party will happen. Thats the game . I be telling pple that all the time.

If you start a fight. Finish it ASAP before a third party arrives

[native niche]

Facts

[feral mist]

Absolutely FACTS

Or get out of there if possible

[north ravine]

So on an unrelated note, apparently ranged beta -> dash beta is a true combo as Rapid All Might... Did it to a Twice.

[feral mist]

Nice

[native niche]

Imagine not being able to punish kurogiri for using his gamma and his body in one place

At most your doing a guard break

That's crazy

[feral mist]

You can argue that with any character standing still

[feral mist]

@native niche I know I said that I'll be taking a break but I still need to finish grinding my license so if you do want to play together today I can

[feral mist]

Lol

[cyan quarry]

I can never get used to wall runner.
Those 2 costumes are AMAZING tuning wise, but I wish it had a hero purple instead of hero blue

[feral mist]

Replace wall runner with blue bakugo then

Or whatever revenge rapid is

[rocky bronze]

Ura

[feral mist]

Monoma is the perfect crashout character

[copper ocean]

How do YOU like getting stun locked, Twice?

Just a few seconds after that

[feral mist]

I saw both of these moments on your latest YouTube video that was sick

Looking forward to joining your customs tomorrow

Personally, I've been wanting to fight you

[feral mist]

I have to make sure my mentor personally gets to see what I'm capable of heh

[cyan quarry]

What would the difference be?
I can't seem to understand what qualifies to make it work properly in either scenario

Does it have to be open on the sides before run up? Do I have to go at it, at an angle or..

It sure loves latching onto small guard rails though.

[feral mist]

It activates wall running when your guard is broken

[stuck mason]

thats Ochacos

[stuck mason]

wall runner activates after getting a down, you also get 5% PU

[random moth]

Wall runner is active in this clip, it's just this surface in the pre-game lobby is weird and you can't wall-run on it

There are also other surfaces in the maps where you just can't wall run on

Wall runner (iida's tuning) activates right from the start and lasts depending on the tuning level

At level 11 it's 20 minutes, basically the whole match until the storm completely closes on the whole map

[sterile zealot]

How are you guys holding up after the canon nerf?

[feral mist]

It's manageable in a 3 stack but solo q I rather use Ibara

[final spire]

7 teams in that small circle gawsh

[final spire]

Crashing out daily

[weary pond]

Pretty decently, I'm more beta and alpha centric but time to k/o is very slow and underwhelming with her canons

But I know it is really detrimental for people that don't run nejire leap nor wall runner.

[sterile zealot]

Hot take but I think the nerf was inevitable and kinda deserved with the buff the cannons got

They were unkillable and they were able to kill you in an instant

If they reverted the cannon structure health then I’d say to buff the knockdown power back to its original state but for now it’s fine

[weary pond]

that buff should've been for her beta tbh

[unborn trellis]

momo cannons in any tight space is literally hollow purple

[final spire]

Momo is no longer the threat she was

[weary pond]

But like no-one asked for that though.

[unborn trellis]

most likely the JP side of the community

[final spire]

if i see a Momo, im pushing her

[unborn trellis]

byking exclusively listens to the jp community

[final spire]

when i see Momos, what she gonna do to me? knock me down? ill still have my shield and all my health

like LOL

[unborn trellis]

dangerous game you are playing my friend

but i respect it

[weary pond]

hmmm, or what if it was pre-planned. They just needed a reason to nerf her cannons

[final spire]

it was dangerous, pre nerf

no longer is it dangerous

😂

like

im only gonna max take 2 canons and it wont include any doll shrapnel because that has its own down value

so MAX im gonna take 2 canon bs

[weary pond]

it sucks all g. ig? if she is not equipped with wall runner or nejire leap she def falls in the catagory of tech dabi and assault kiri

[sterile zealot]

People were asking for the cannons to be Nerfed though

So the buff to their HP was probably a Band-Aid buff

My question is why they did it the opposite order

[final spire]

most her canon can do is 125 x2. You can still break the canon pretty easily and the start up frames mean you can avoid it by rolling also. As long as youre smart and if your even remotely mobile, you can out manuever her. shes honestly so easy to kill with most of the cast, including grounded characters like strike todo

[sterile zealot]

They should’ve just done it at the same time instead of buffing the cannons then nerfing them

[final spire]

she cant run away from me if im playing any rapid

and rapids have way too much health to where shes not living if I just disengage quickly and come back, she cant escape

[feral mist]

I felt that

[feral mist]

Exactly

[feral mist]

They could have made knockback after 3 hits considering she can fight 3 cannons max

Her "unfailing castle wall" is no longer invincible so her cannons were used as a shield in a way but now she has little ways to defend herself from being jumped

[weary pond]

Now that I'm thinking about it even of the player runs wall runner. It's still highkey bad

[feral mist]

Wall Runner isn't even useful if there's no walls to run on

[sterile zealot]

Join the club

You fight or die

But in seriousness

[feral mist]

I'm already an Ibara main

[sterile zealot]

I never said the balance was good because I don’t really like it since she doesn’t have any relative kill power in her kit anywhere else

In this did take the annoying part away, but it didn’t give her anything else in return

Well, nothing useful enough to justify it

[feral mist]

Yea I wouldn't mind the nerf as much if they simply buffed somewhere else

I prefer using alpha over gamma on Momo anyway
-# I miss her 10 alphas

[sterile zealot]

I feel like the beta should have been buffed

[feral mist]

That definitely deserves to be buffed considering it's bugged

[sterile zealot]

Increased speed size and damage

[feral mist]

Yea

[weary pond]

Her alpha use to be bigger or have a bigger hitbox

[feral mist]

Make it "unfailing" like the title claims it to be or at least close to it

[feral mist]

What her alpha needs is more than 6

I'll take 7 even

Or have it reload quicker to compensate the cannon nerf

[weary pond]

Yah

[feral mist]

Momo is supposed to be a close conbat fighter with a long ranged attack yet she easily gets decimated due to not having any mobility but the devs don't care

They act like cannons are everything about her
-# so does the reddit community

[sterile zealot]

Every ability should have at least some weakness in my opinion

But to reduce how much of a weakness is to her I’d buff the turning speed to help not get attacked from the backside as much

That’s how I like to go about balance

[feral mist]

I agree

That's why I said "or at least close it" because it quite literally used to be unfailing aka invulnerable

[sterile zealot]

To be fair, that is her most polarizing piece in her kit

[feral mist]

True

[sterile zealot]

It’s why you never go a second without hearing about twice gamma

(Trying to type mid match is tough)

[sterile zealot]

If it were to be exactly that it would have to be something like all mights where it wouldn’t do much damage as a trade off

And maybe even get kneecapped in the mobility department

Straight up invincibility is a POWERFUL thing

[feral mist]

Joke asides, with all the op characters/quirk sets and flying characters she needs it at this point

[sterile zealot]

“Radical highway is just so cool shadow”

[sterile zealot]

If I were BYKING i’d work down the list going from strongest down

First to get the nerf hammer twice, but I’m guessing there’s a twice main in charge

[feral mist]

Fr lol

[sterile zealot]

1 damage

[feral mist]

That probably explains the 1 dmg nerf