Shoto Todoroki

[raven dock]

And villain version is wall runner and space hop

[zenith kayak]

If i wanna go more dmg what do i chosse?

Or lets say whats more versatile

[raven dock]

Versatile? Villain Style because of both wall runner and space hop combinations
Damage? I think Dangerous and Default will go.
Default have more passive options, Dangerous is more situational due to melee attacks to activate yellow shiggy

[zenith kayak]

Aight thx dude

[raven dock]

You’re welcome

[obsidian tundra]

YOOO THATS FIRE ASF

Wb

[raven dock]

why would you enter in the first place

[quasi spoke]

nice domain expansion LOL.

[obsidian tundra]

LOL

I did that a few times

[patent granite]

I feel guilty playing this character…

I can get 300 damage off of one gamma line and 400 damage off of one melee

(Talking about strike shoto btw)

And in all of my holiness I swear I’m not a shoto main but GOD this man feels so good

[raven dock]

Pause

True tho.

Told ya it was a matter of time to change mindsets
Strong? Yea
Op? Maybe
Emergency nerfs needed? No
He feels good overall and has a lot of weaknesses, like aerial matchups and armor

But it’s so fun to move around, hit some alphas and combo into gammas

How we can possibly not like this guy?

[patent granite]

I say he’s OP in the fact that he has so many upsides and very little downsides, but is not overly broken like monoma

He has a high amount of damage

Good mobility

Decent AOE

Can make cover

And Has a lot of range

All the trade-off of (like you said) not having good air matchups, and is bad against armor (and that one tuning that denies his entire gimmick, but we’re not gonna talk about that) which both can be easily fixed by simply planning and playing around with the tuning system

He’s strong and OP but balanced in a way

Cause there are much bigger and more overly strong threats than him that can specialize in one thing and one thing really well

[raven dock]

weak at level 1 ( mainly the alpha hitbox
Can’t match stronger matchups, including aerial ones
Is weak against armor, including not having one
Means of escape is one of the worst, which means he can be interrupted frequently
And let’s not forget the special action, the amazing special action

But yeah

Pretty much fair with those statements

[patent granite]

Mic with Damage

Ochaco with combos

Monomas… everything…

[raven dock]

Monoma is just
Monoma, what can I say

People gonna still pick him even with 200 HP

Let’s hope a cooldown nerf next season 🫠

[patent granite]

(I’m sorry I totally forgot about levels I run divine protection and quasi-permeation so I constantly have all my abilities at level four at the start of the game)

Week against armor can be played around because most characters with armor normally are either close range brawlers or are locked into their attacks, which he can outrange and even in the worst case scenario, there are still ways to get away although that is a weakness that should be considered

I forget the special action exists… I literally just use it to fill downtime in fights. Cause there’s nothing else to do with it… “wow I did 11 damage to the enemy with a bit of after burn!!!”

[patent granite]

(PLEASE REDUCE HIM TO THAT AMOUNT!!! AS AN IBARA MAIN THAT WOULD BE HEAVENLY)

[patent granite]

Jack of all trades master of literally all of them

[raven dock]

I wish the whole “run around” the armor would work, characters like iida with massive tracking on their skills can easily shut him down

And yea, special action being heavenly

[raven dock]

Wouldn’t judge, the main issue stills cooldown bypass

[patent granite]

With him, you going into a room and hope for the best

To be fair, I have not faced an iida yet as strike shoto so I have no idea how that match up is going to go for me, but that is my plan

[jolly roost]

His gamma his op the cooldown that fudge nits is stew pid put together

[patent granite]

I’m going to be so honest

I agree

I haven’t had it on cool down yet

I’ve been playing him all day

You genuinely have to be spamming it to be out of it I swear

[raven dock]

One of the worst, beta doesn’t work if he works around it, and even with godlike movement on walls :

BETA TRACKING

[jolly roost]

All you need is 1 reload speed at level 4 in tuning and one at level 3, with two purple cards and you can infinitely use his gamma until cards run out

With ability manifest that solves the problem

of cards running out

[patent granite]

I mean yeah…

but why?…

[raven dock]

Reload builds can do some work, yeah, but it’s not the best ones, you have infinite gammas, of course, but that’s only movement for you, considering you’re an OPEN Target

[patent granite]

I mean, technically strike kendo can do 600 dmg but it’s unrealistic and unnecessary

You don’t need to spam gamma as strike shoto

[raven dock]

It’s one of the situational aspects.

Let’s say

[patent granite]

Don’t get me wrong I agree the reload is BS

But like you never need to do this

[jolly roost]

It's dirty,the player is mobile and can still can do dmg while being mobile. And it's monoma 2.0 but on ground

[raven dock]

If we break his gamma reload, we break his legs, because he is losing main movement tool

And I’m talking overall situations

[jolly roost]

Not at all

[raven dock]

Not including the fact we could be using wall runner

[jolly roost]

it's op

I've been gate keeping my build but ima post it

[raven dock]

There is a lot of OP reloads on the game, he is a fair one comparing to those

4 seconds on level 9

6 seconds on level 1

[jolly roost]

Your tripping dawg

[raven dock]

Fair still

[raven dock]

I wish man

I really do

But his gamma reload is the last concern we should worry about

More likely the beta damage or speed

[patent granite]

It’s not as bad as Monoma but again my question still stands

Why would you ever do this?…

[raven dock]

Not the reload 😭

[patent granite]

People will normally get auto knocked down after the first one

If you’re using it for mobility, OK sure that’s not gonna work forever though…

It’s a neat build, but unnecessary is what I’m saying

It doesn’t really accomplish much

[jolly roost]

His beta still has endlag even though they buffed the speed of it.But I know bro how it is. I was the same when the nerfed momo's cannons

[patent granite]

His damage in general needs to be looked at

Like GOD DANG

[jolly roost]

I answered your question

[raven dock]

We can fix the end lag if the game was good, but it’s not, so the end lag stays for a lot of skills
I get what you’re saying, but his gamma reload is one of the last concerns at the moment
The problem still stands, how easy is to dish damage and the speed of how it happens, not the reloads

[raven dock]

^

[patent granite]

Yes, he can be mobile while doing damage but you know tech toga can do the exact same with her beta except she doesn’t need any reload and chicken choose when to stop it

It just doesn’t feel like all that good of a build even though it is a bit crazy

[jolly roost]

Honestly, I'm not even asking for nerfs. I'm just saying his gamma reload is dumb .

[patent granite]

I wholeheartedly agree

[jolly roost]

Yeah but she can't freeze multiple people at once and she doesn't move as quick as he does

[raven dock]

I can already see his gamma going to take ages to reload if we nerf that, I know how they gonna do it.

[patent granite]

Shoto can’t combo off of his own freeze most of the time when using held gamma

And she is actually faster because she has no end lag

[jolly roost]

yeah, ok i agree it's not pratical but for what it is. It's really cheese

[raven dock]

He’s gonna be a menace if he can cancel his gamma held input

More than he already is

[raven dock]

@obsidian tundra imagine the possibilities

💀

[obsidian tundra]

O
I see many visions 😭

[patent granite]

It’s really stupid and needs to be changed. The fact he can do this is crazy. I agree on that.

It’s just the “why” is what’s getting me.

But fun build by the way

[jolly roost]

Well my counter is "why not" it's fun as fudge and really good for people that suck at aiming or don't know how to land betas lol . I think it's really good support move to be able to spam it non stop.

Sorry for the horrific quality i dont have pc or labtop

There's probably a better with ability manifest with all four y reloads now since tech mirio was added

[raven dock]

If you’re interested, I made a perfect skin for his gamma

On volunteer skin

I need to see that skin’s potential at max

Definition of infinite gammas

Fixer and revenge technical

[jolly roost]

To be honest, it's heavy relient on the cards more than anything and needs the bare minimum of two y reloads to work.

It's only infinite for the duration of cards which technically does not make it "infinite".

"Spammable non stop" for that duration is a better wording. Ability manifest just makes the spamming last longer.

[raven dock]

🫠

Got it

Revenge technical also works

[jolly roost]

Yeah yeah

[raven dock]

I think fixer can do some work too

[jolly roost]

forshures

yeah im theorizing right now if he had a costume that had fixer on the right with all y reloads in the game currently. And would run a team with two technicals. That actually can make it infinite maybe

[shell barn]

How does tech shoto explosion scale with tuning?

Does increase alpha dmg tunes increase explosion dmg or nah?

And do hp/gp attack power+ tunes affect the explosion or nah?

Or is it beta dmg + tunes that affect explosions dmg?

Or none?

[shell barn]

Bruh no one? Fr?

Are tech shotos extinct after the nerfs or somethin?

[jolly roost]

I play tech shoto, I seen your comment but I don't know. If the beta explosion doesn't increase with beta tunings. It's most likely the physical impact of beta that increases. I can test it in a minute hold on

[jolly roost]

Alphas do not* increase beta dmg and hp and gp increase both physical and explosion damage

[patent granite]

I figured out strike shotos real weakness

The geometry

You sent a perfectly placed gamma right at your enemy, but nope, a pole stops it

[shell barn]

So to clarify

• the ONLY way to increase the explosion damage is by using hp/gp attack power+ cards

• alpha attack power+ cards don't affect the explosion damage

• the beta attack power+ tunes only affect the beta impact and not the explosion

[shell barn]

Cool what special tunings do you personally uses and recommend? And what costumes?

[jolly roost]

I haven't tried beta tunings but im positive they increase both. It would be wierd if not.

[jolly roost]

Personally haris, I only run nejire leap + wall runner

[shell barn]

Well leveling beta In game doesn't change the explosion damage

Only the size right

Only alpha increases the explosions dmg

So that's why I'm Confused as to how it works with tunings

[shell barn]

Co

Cool

Why nejire leap?

And if u had to get rid of 1 of your sp tunes would it spiraling leap or wallrunner?

[jolly roost]

Wall runner

[shell barn]

I'm curios what nejire leap contributes to tech todo

Ahhh

What costume do you use?

Sorry for the question overload lol

[jolly roost]

You actually right why is it like that,alphas do increase the damage.

Nejire leap allows me to hit both ice/fire alphas way easier, I can avoid grounded attacks as well as some other character moves, I can float longer with gamma, and being able to put beta down and jump away while aiming is a plus

[shell barn]

Ahhh thanks

[jolly roost]

Kung fu outift

[shell barn]

Was considering spiraling leap

You've sold me

Btw

Can you get 2 alphas off in the air with spiraling leap?

Typically you can only get one b4 landing

[shell barn]

Also got any examples of attack you can avoid with nejire leap?

Is overhaul gamma one?

[shell barn]

Is this valid or have I got something incorrect?

[jolly roost]

I see people running fixer on tech but it's only worth on his gamma(I think) which he does not have any crazy good fixer builds + gamma damage.

Yeah,
asskiri alpha, gamma,
strikekiri beta,alpha,
strike shigi alpha beta gamma
Dabi gamma

The hp/gp is valid
alpha is untested
and beta is untested

Nejire Leap just allows you to be more versatile and i forgot to add it allows you to hit beta better physcally.

theres more attacks like momo's beta even gamma at some times if you are in a correct spot

[shell barn]

Sorry to ask but are you able to test how the explosion scales with beta and alpha tunings?

[shell barn]

What do you mean by that?

[shell barn]

I'm trying to decide between kung fu and cyberhero dangerous

What do you think?

[jolly roost]

Yes i can test it right now and what I mean by that is, usually when tech shoto players use beta they just stand there trying to activate the explosion.

Kung fu outfit all the way, I have vertical jump height on both lvl 4's that's why I prefer it more .

So you can nejire leap jump and hit beta more accurate

Before they nerfed his alpha ice lingering effect . It was so easy to catch peoples wake up with ice. It's still good and I still do it. But they window to time there wake up with ice freeze is slightly shorter.
That being said If they spam on wake up it's still easy

[jolly roost]

Guess what though

It freaken does count for both physical and explosion. (Beta tunings). I tried my fixer+symbol of peace build. And it did 195, on explosion and 138 on physical impact

[shell barn]

And your sure it was beta tunings not alpha or hp/gp ones that affected the explosion?

[shell barn]

Wut?

[static harbor]

Tech shoto vs yellow Kendo or strike kirishima match up is so annoyingly bad

[quasi spoke]

strike kendo is a worse matchup than yellow kendo wym

she literally speedblitzes and pegs him before he can even react

[static harbor]

She blocks his beta and gamma I meant

And strike kendo is just bad match up to everyone tbfh

[quasi spoke]

yeah I seen a yellow kendo cook him in rose’s customs that way tbh

[quasi spoke]

😂 fair enough

[static harbor]

Only two character that I see actually bully strike kendo but also get bullied are Aizawa and Shinso

[shell barn]

A Tech mirio is even worse but ig that goes for all characters lol

[static harbor]

Strike shiggy my goat 🥀

[shell barn]

Lol

[shell barn]

Doesn't the spiraling leap negate the affects of the ochaco and shinso tune that give more jump height or does it stack?

Also is the height differences you get from tunings even noticeable or significant?

[jolly roost]

It was all beta tunings and I had one alpha tuning. I retested it today and switched alpha to melee and it still was 195 on the explosion and 138 on physical. So alpha dmg + tunings do not increase beta dmg. Alpha tunings only increa alpha dmg and does not transfer to beta .

•Beta dmg tunings increase both dmg
•Gp/Hp increase both
•Alpha dmg tunings do not transfer to beta dmg

[jolly roost]

Idk maybe perhaps. I still get a boost and helps with floating in the air longer with gamma stalling.

It also increase's the height when doing wall runner tech. I can tell you this forward jump affects nejire leap.

Some people say that forward jump doesn't do anything like dash speed. I didn't know where they got there information from. But I've done multiple testing with different characters with and without spiraling leap and it does affect the jump.(forward jump tuning)

You don't have to have vertical jump on. Probably better with dmg tunings. I like it because it gives me more boost on wall runner tech and more air time to stall with gamma float

[shell barn]

Interesting

[shell barn]

I've seen the wallrunner tech b4 I think

How do you do it again?

And can you do it on tech shoto betas?

[jolly roost]

yeah I do it all the time lol and have to let go of the left joystick as soon as you jump.

[shell barn]

Ahhh thanks

[shell barn]

Alos

Also*

[jolly roost]

Just to simplify it, yeah both do stack. But forward jump passive doesn't increase the distance it increases the height of forward jump. You might not even notice it if you have one.

[shell barn]

Ahhh nvm

Ahhh ok

Also

Could you send a picture of the build that got u 195 explosion dmg @jolly roost ?

[jolly roost]

Yeah sure

[shell barn]

Thank you

Btw

[jolly roost]

yup, welcome 👍

[shell barn]

Can you think of any examples where spiraling leap helps dodge a certain attack?

Off the top off you head?

[jolly roost]

All strike shigi attacks
momo beta
dabi gamma
assault kiri alpha and gamma

tec shoto gamma

strike kiri beta

[raven dock]

Come on, no need to rub salt in the wound

😔

[ancient root]

wall runner, space hop,willpower

i use undefeatable base and volunteer activities

[shell barn]

Ahh cool

Curious tho

Why space hop?

What advantages does it provide to tech shoto?

Or just for the extra mobility?

[ancient root]

explosions from the air

like i can place a beta down and explode i t he air

[shell barn]

Ahhhhh cool

[shell barn]

Might use space hop now, sounds fun

[wanton mist]

https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/5kGXB5

[vernal mason]

best tuning for shoto strike?

[raven dock]

Skin or specifically a tuning slot?

[shell barn]

Guys for tech shoto

Should I opt for spacehop or spiraling leap

?

[jolly roost]

Do you play on console? Haris

[vernal mason]

skin

[raven dock]

Then kung fu default

The best one nowadays for him

[shell barn]

I do

PlayStation

Why?

Down to play sometime or somethin?

@jolly roost

[wanton mist]

imo there's many valid options. Most of them involve wallrunner

[shell barn]

Wallrunner is overrated asf

On every chatacter

[ancient root]

not really

[wanton mist]

huh

[shell barn]

I used to be a big wallrunner fan

[ancient root]

it helps characters keep up

[shell barn]

Just cary rapid cards bro

Easy

[ancient root]

why waste my time carrying rapid cards if i cant slot smth that gives me rapid card ability the whole game

WOW

[shell barn]

Carrying cards don't waste any time gang

But wasting a special slot however...

[wanton mist]

taking rapid level ups from your teammate...

[ancient root]

you get a time limit of 60 seconds or 80

compared to 10 or 12 minutes

[wanton mist]

also like I wallrun 24/7, I'd need 500 rapid cards per match

[shell barn]

If there's a rapid teamate

[ancient root]

im taking 10 or 12 minutes

[shell barn]

If,

Then you only need 2

It's so worth it

Don't be acting like we care bout our randoms that much

[ancient root]

we do

[shell barn]

That's we wouldn't take 1 or 2 levels off of em

[ancient root]

they are people too

[shell barn]

😭

[wanton mist]

I do 😭

[shell barn]

Lol

I dont

[wanton mist]

also here's how I play btw https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/7kKz8G

[shell barn]

Oooooo tech dabi me like

[wanton mist]

think that dabi clip is a better example than the todo clips I was able to find quickly

[shell barn]

Btw I never said it was bad

Said it was overrated

Most don't need it

Just carry rapid cards for escaping and chasing

If it's apart of your playstyle however

[ancient root]

but wall runner gives you more time

[shell barn]

Then yh be my guest

[ancient root]

and opportunity

[shell barn]

Wdym gng

?

Elaborate please

[ancient root]

a rapid card cant last you 10 minutes

at most it gives you 80s in bursts

[shell barn]

You don't really need more time when chasing up a building or running

[wanton mist]

to me it's just I do it 24/7, like with rapid cards I'd never do a manoveur with no enemies around like this: https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/KZYEYB

but I randomly caught a denki off guard that way

[shell barn]

Yeah fair

I'm talking bout the majority who mis interpret the correct use case for wallrunner

[wanton mist]

yeah if you don't do super jumps then fair

then it's not good on literally every character

but with superjumps it's so op I swear

[shell barn]

Most bring wallrunner to chase a low opponent up a building to catch em off guard maybe 2 or 3 times a match at most yk?

Or to run up a building for quick get away

Both are only short bursts

Wallrunner ain't necessary

And the 10% speed and attack speed boost is a bonus too

But fir someone like u however it's different

[wanton mist]

fair enough ig, though even then for some characters like tech dabi even so I'd still recommend it, though I agree at that point space hop might just be better

[shell barn]

You've incorporated wallrunner into your core playstyle

Like an iida

[shell barn]

Yeah

Exactly

[wanton mist]

will agree with that for example on nejore I think revenge rapid is a very valid alternative cause of how it speeds up her movement like crazy

[shell barn]

Yeah

Oh btw ibara

[wanton mist]

and on shiggy I just run spiraling leap, cause I just skip the walls most of the time with special actions and stuff

[shell barn]

Thoughts on the new acceleration tune?

[wanton mist]

haven't tried it 😭

it sounds super fun though

[shell barn]

Spiraling and wallrunner is a nice combo

[shell barn]

Fr

Fr

[wanton mist]

yeah :c

[shell barn]

What character came to mind when you first saw the tune?

[wanton mist]

can be, it's either great or pretty bad depending on the character imo

[shell barn]

I thought of Aizawa n asskendo

[shell barn]

Yeah hyper character dependant

[wanton mist]

uhm first ones were aizawa, tamaki, shiso ig, then rapigo, but after some more thinking I think it might just be good on some pretty other picks like red kendo seems obv good with it, tsu might be able to use it well

[shell barn]

Tamaki n iida are apparently the meta for acceleration and useless on others but it's too early to say imo

[wanton mist]

idk twice, iida maybe idk tbh

would need to try

[shell barn]

Rapidgo?

When does he get a chance to melee

[shell barn]

Yh

[wanton mist]

yeah the best rapigos have been doing alpha to shoot themselves at someone into air melee gamma for a while now

[shell barn]

OH

Shi

Ik

[wanton mist]

but apparently the physics changes make that a lot more awkward now

[shell barn]

That's happened to me today

For the first time

Lol

[wanton mist]

like your air melee doesn't fast fall as much anymore I think which makes the entire thing different

[shell barn]

Ahh

Sucks for rapidgo mains

Less skill expression

Mid change tbh

[wanton mist]

eh I wouldn't be so sure

what does it do for tamaki other than make his silly combo true?

[shell barn]

That's just what I've heard through the grapevine bro 🤷‍♂️

[shell barn]

That's what I'm saying

"Oooo it makes him super fast when invisible" 🤓

Like Stfu

[wanton mist]

kinda, he felt silly when I last tried him, the floatiung after gamma is a great change imo, the special action into air melee flight is ... something

[shell barn]

Ahhh lol

[wanton mist]

I'll test it on lots more chars once I can dw

[shell barn]

Music to my ears

[wanton mist]

hehe :3

out of the ones I mentioned my highest hopes are prolly red kendo, aizawa if your name is junpei, and then random characters you wouldn't expect it to be as good on, something like tsu

on iida it might also be real crazy but that one you also mentioned

twice it might be good on for lack of options, so no wonder no one's talking about it lmao

[jolly roost]

nah I was just asking because most of console players have jump button on a (I'm a console player btw)

[jolly roost]

I'm glad you noticed that too, most people don't notice. Which makes me think I'm tripping. And btw they also nerfed healing back to back. Slight delay

[wanton mist]

they did???

but yeah there's even the list of what characters had their air melees adjusted

and then there's the "allowed freedom of movement after abilities" which idk if it includes air melees or not, so I'm not sure if it's global or limited to the characters that got their melees changed

[jolly roost]

Yeah I storm camp a lot and.noticed that I can't pop as quickly. It's like a 0.7 delay

Used to be able to equip a drink pod and pop it as soon as I got done drinking one. Not no more though.

And ima have to look at the patch notes lol. I usually just go off by feel

From playing I noticed
Toga,froppy, and assault kendo didn't get changed. which thank goodness. I'm not a fan of the change but not mad either .

[wanton mist]

I mean they still got affected no? At least I know froppy as movement freedom after alpha now, and kendo got 150 dp on her air melee so she can do air melee into full melee combo like all the other cool kids

[wanton mist]

but yeah I also tend to storm camp at times, just didn't get to play much since last patch, I often use the shortcut wheel to drink though, so I might not notice outside of life or death storm camp scenarios

now that you say it though it may have happened to me, but my conncetion was also so bad while playing that a crucial team heal I drank just simply didn't go through 😭

[shell barn]

It's X for me, why should I rebind it?

[jolly roost]

Well I'm talking about the actual feel of their air melees.
Like for instance, compared to momos' and or dabis' air melee their melees feel the same vs momos/dabi their melee don't lunge them forward as much no more.

[jolly roost]

I highly recommend it. It might feel wierd and take time to getting used to but the benefits you get from it are astronomical.

[shell barn]

What have you rebinded it to?

One of the bumpers?

Also what's your dash binded to?

[jolly roost]

Yea lol, being able to jump and use a an ability without having to move your thumb away from joystick is great. I'll send a pic hol'up

[wanton mist]

maybe it doesn't lunge as far forward but it also gives you control again much faster, so you can spam it way faster, at least for dabi, I think that's a good thing but haven't had much time to get used to it yet

(and won't till monday, can't wait to play around more)

[shell barn]

Yh I've been thinking if it tbh but you've sold me

I have dash on left trigger which is a weird one

But allows for more combos on aizawa in particular

[jolly roost]

yeah yeah that's what I'm saying I'm not mad because I felt the benefits of it on different characters.

[wanton mist]

yup

[jolly roost]

I actually tried dash on left top bumper I couldn't get used to it because of my current setup.

• Jump and quirk skill a can be switched
• Beta and gamma can be switched as well . Or if you don't aim as much you can switch aim for beta

It's good on its own the setup but this paired with nejire leap bro, you can avoid attacks whilst attacking

[quasi spoke]

rapid card with ability manifest goes hard

[shell barn]

Manifest + card dupe is awesome

[quasi spoke]

either that or divine protection for a guaranteed passive card

[shell barn]

Yeah

[bold ibex]

Shoto's Gamma buff is so nice, increased mobility makes him so powerful 💀

[steep skiff]

yo what

That is siiiick

[little ferry]

Any more strike Todoroki tips?

[vernal mason]

These are the ones I have, I can buy alts if need be

[raven dock]

undef. default is good as it is, no need for alts, and cyberhero only the last version is the best one

so that's on your personal preferences

undef default have wallrunner on 11 too

[vernal mason]

wall runnnnnn

yess lol

i just died not having it

mind if you throw me a ss of last cyber

what do you suggest for purple

[raven dock]

monoma, aizawa, nejire

those picks works great

not the same skin but use this as a reference if you need to

same special ones, just make sure monoma catches your personal main skill passives

in my case, is alpha and gamma

[vernal mason]

how much does it improve from if you got any numbers

kus im down for that

[raven dock]

if i remember correctly from the cyberhero version, i think 86 at level 9

[vernal mason]

from what

[raven dock]

his alpha

gamma catches 128 i think

[vernal mason]

sorry if my like words seem mean i hate text not transmitting tone

[raven dock]

it's alright no worries

[vernal mason]

sorry i meant like what was it before

[raven dock]

ah right, i think it was 78 or 82

[vernal mason]

im lookin for someone else to play, and shoto has been down my alley

ohh

[raven dock]

the main perk is the level 11 wall runner, but this one can compete with undef. default on damage

but this one has reloads as well

so it's a HUGE deal on his reload schemes

[vernal mason]

ohhh yeah

lol

makes sense

[vernal mason]

do you think i should invest

or wait for kung fu lmao

[raven dock]

personally? if you're willing to play him now, cyberhero last version can't go wrong

it's enough until you have kung fu someday

and i found the clip for reference ( music warning )

fixer here was on level 4

so with another strike, it does 88 damage on level 9

and yea, this one was back on my friend's account, same cyberhero last version skin he's using

i think fixer on level 10 upgrades to 90 or 92

that will heavily depend on strikers on your team, plus assaults on opponent's team

[vernal mason]

oh dang

mind helpin me invest into the right shiz rq

[raven dock]

sure, lemme see the best slots, one minute

[vernal mason]

thanks brother

[raven dock]

Special Slot 1 - Monoma ( Fixer )
Tuning Slot 1 - Mirio or Rapid Bakugo
Tuning Slot 2 - Overhaul, Ibara or Momo
Tuning Slot 3 - Rapid Toga or Hawks
Tuning Slot 4 ( Hero ) - Strike Bakugo, Present Mic, Endeavor for Alpha Damage
Shinso, Kirishima or Kendo for Beta Damage
Tuning Slot 5 ( Hero ) - Tech Kaminari, Aizawa or Nejire
Tuning Slot 6 - All for One or Dabi
Tuning Slot 7 - Assault Endeavor, Shigaraki or All Might
Tuning Slot 8 - Strike Dabi, Full Bullet or Tamaki
Tuning Slot 9 ( Villain ) - Tech Toga
Tuning Slot 10 ( Villain ) - Your pick here
Special Slot 2 - Wall Runner, Revenge Rapid or Acceleration

from left to right, focusing on alpha and gamma here

any questions? ask away

[vernal mason]

lez do it

[vernal mason]

can you watch me play and give me tips?

sorry my brain exploded

wow

[raven dock]

i can stay for a bit, sure no problem, i have some studies later so i'll try my best

[vernal mason]

.

[raven dock]

here, this explains the order right!

same for the other side

like that, sorry for the confusion

[vernal mason]

Cyber Hero Costume (Dangerous)

Special Slot 1 - Monoma ( Fixer )
Tuning Slot 1 - Mirio or Rapid Bakugo
Tuning Slot 2 - Overhaul, Ibara or Momo
Tuning Slot 3 - Rapid Toga or Hawks
Tuning Slot 4 ( Hero ) - Strike Bakugo, Present Mic, Endeavor for Alpha Damage / Shinso, Kirishima or Kendo for Beta Damage
Tuning Slot 5 ( Hero ) - Tech Kaminari, Aizawa or Nejire

Special Slot 2 - Wall Runner, Revenge Rapid or Acceleration
Tuning Slot 1 - All for One or Dabi
Tuning Slot 2 - Assault Endeavor, Shigaraki or All Might
Tuning Slot 3 - Strike Dabi, Full Bullet or Tamaki
Tuning Slot 4 ( Villain ) - Tech Toga
Tuning Slot 5 ( Villain ) - Your pick here

[raven dock]

it should look like this

i tried editing in so sorry for the bad edit

but that's the overall idea

[shell barn]

Which todo is this for?

And this question goes for both shotos but

How does acceleration help him?

Anything in particular or r we js using it for the sake fo it?

Cos it's new?

I'm genuinely curious

[little ferry]

Does Strike Todoroki Take skill/Have a high skill ceiling?

[jolly roost]

Not as much because of the buffs to his beta and gamma. Suprisingly I would say tech takes more skill

[little ferry]

What should I level up first

On strike Todoroki

[ancient root]

gamma

[raven dock]

alpha

straight to 4

then gamma to 4

then alpha full 9

keep it simple, range it matters

unless you prefer going beta
then you go
b4
y4
b9
a4
y9

[raven dock]

kinda, tech doesn't requires skill as strike does

due to how easy he is

you just alpha forward and freezes anyone daring to stay close

if that's not enough, you have gamma for protection and moving tool

don't forget beta going full damage through walls

strike can spam? he sure can

not as much as tech tho

Tech compensates much more for the low ceiling and less use of skill

but strike can be stronger in better hands

[raven dock]

that's for strike, sorry for the delay

i don't play tech, only know a few things about him

but if any tuning works for strike, it can can work for tech

as long you keep the alpha damage in check

[raven dock]

and answering this, me personally i didn't liked it, but it's strong, so it's worth a try

the problem it's when it ends, 20-40 seconds of cooldown is a huge deal compared to 30 seconds of active use

[jolly roost]

Beta is harder to hit and hitting full set of gammas is harder to hit on tech vs strike. The only thing is strikes shoto alpha takes more skill than tec as well.

Yeah spamming alpha into beta is inherently easy but to time it to actually hit someone that knows how to dodge takes more skill than wakeing up with beta

physcally beta is harder to hit than strikes is what i mean in the first comment

[raven dock]

the idea of his gamma is not for hitting, more than protection and move away tool, tech it's not a challenging tool, strike's alpha sure is harder to hit, can't compare a real plane to a paper one
but the thing is, strike it's not only weaker at low levels, but struggles easily again't aerial characters, tech it's stronger on this matter-of-fact, and what makes strike look more "spam", it's his beta and gamma speed, but the problem still remains, not everyone can pick strike and go "wow, i did it, i downed everyone and kept myself safe", spam doesn't works most of the time, now, tech one? got some of my friends playing him, and he knows it, tech doesn't requires brains as strike does, he just go alpha and gamma, and almost no one can hit him

[raven dock]

yeah i feel you, not wrong on that one

but the explosion is what makes harder to play against

and bro doesn't even needs to think in using it

he just goes, places it behind walls

and any poor soul through gets shred

if he doesn't get hit, stopping his heals and forcing a dodge is enough

most of those cases, just the fact of having a wall-shred skill makes the character absurdly strong

now add the fact he can keep exploding it to increased range 🫠

"just hears the opponent"
Response : skill shred

[jolly roost]

I disagree heavy tech beta is so easy to dodge and telegraph vs strike shoto's beta which is more instant,still has endlag even though they buffed the speed!, and does twice the dmg.
Strike shoto doesn't need to work or use half of his kit for his k'os while tech shoto needs to at least use almost if not half of his kit for a k'o.
On his gamma, regardless if you are using it for offense and defense ot takes more skill to land vs strike shotos gamma. Coughcough which has increased range, speed, and cooldown for spamming.
Strike is not weaker at low levels😭 you are tripping.

Were we can both agree that simply pressing alpha into beta on tech shot takes no skill at all. But here's the big but. The opening to dodge and see tech shoto is so easy to avoid and takes little effort to react vs strike shotos instant 200 dmg and not so easy to dodge beta.

Back then when strike shoto wasn't cheese and tech shoto was at his prime yes strike shoto took more skill but now tech shoto takes more skill to survive and output dmg

[wanton mist]

wall jump up gamma alpha (melees) beta is still fine for strike, or just beta (beta) if it needs to be fast

[jolly roost]

This is why you see so many people pick up strike shoto after the buffs it takes little effort to k'o someone and survive vs tevh shoto

[raven dock]

i see, so you think an upclose skill that there is a gap between dodges and takes 20 seconds to recharge takes less skill than one with skillshred properties and three charges with less than 10 seconds, fair enough

can't compete the fact that he can k.o easier

almost non existant DP

[jolly roost]

Give a casual player strike vs a tech strike is def winning. Only the thing that takes more skill is alpha from strike shoto.

Saying that tech shreds vs strike is insane

[raven dock]

if i make two casual players using both shotos, i can see tech winning, bro just spams and wins, AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN STRIKE IS NOT WEAKER AT LOW LEVELS?

[jolly roost]

Strike shreds bro with minimal effort

[raven dock]

bro can hardly hit his skills while tech can work with gamma at all levels 💀

[jolly roost]

Strike just dodges bro what you mean?

[raven dock]

yup, i can see the pattern here

[raven dock]

tech does too

just so you know

and he does it easier

gamma protects him

[jolly roost]

Not as much as strike does bro

[raven dock]

in low levels? yeah, i see the pattern

[jolly roost]

Downplaying an op character vs a nuetered one gotcha bro

[raven dock]

not downplaying strike, but comparing skill ceiling is clearly an understatement

is a fact

tech requires less skill

doesn't mean he's stronger, that's just my point

[raven dock]

fair enough

then he needs wall runner on that occasion

[jolly roost]

Gamma into beta into alpha omg now your k'oed. guys that takes way more skill than dodging a tech shotos beta

[wanton mist]

yeah, I do think wallrunner (/spacehop) is kindo of a must, even more for strike than tech. And I kinda play him like I used to play tech dabi as my grounded wallrun character rn

[jolly roost]

At lower levels it is harder for tech shoto to even come close to get a ko vs strike. Strike is at a more of an advantage than tech at lower levels

[raven dock]

now we're talking about a situation that requires catching the opponent in a gamma, frequently? you could say that, so we're comparing combos and K.O potential rather than how easy is to play?

yup, pattern spotted

[wanton mist]

also I think they both do silly things in their own silly ways, one has a quick delete button and the other has insane area control

https://tenor.com/view/ochako-uraraka-mhur-my-hero-ultra-rumble-honda-civic-gif-4271946589275552418

[jolly roost]

Bro aiming alpha on strike takes more skill ok. Hitting alpha into beta on tech doesn't take a skill. Majoerity of people are going to dodge thatc beta. So therefore it takes a tech shoto player some skill argueably more skill than (strike beta) to calculate peoples dodge and timing. Vs strike shotos beta which has a forgiving hitbox don't even need to hit it directly can be comboed into a tod with his gamma.
Same thing for his gamma is so easy to hit and land vs tech shoto gamma which isnt so easy and to land

[raven dock]

why would you use tech's gamma to hit in the first place?

[jolly roost]

Don't worry gaabis I had that op main character sydrome with momo when her canons got nerfed.

[raven dock]

https://tenor.com/view/iyngxing-robin-robin-honkai-star-rail-robin-hsr-nodding-gif-13278692271301782565

guess i'm too crazy for my own good.

[jolly roost]

It doesn't matter it takes more skill vs strike shotos

[jolly roost]

I actually have a build on towards his gamma which does insane dmg but doesn't reach full potent gamma dmg.
And nah you not crazy just biased or based who knows. I use to main strike shoto because he actually took more skill until they overtuned his ahh and then switched to tech. Then they nerfed his ice alpha after I was glazing my stun nejire build 😭

[raven dock]

guess your tech shoto is gonna need to go full alpha without ice

[jolly roost]

It's still really good for stunning people on wake-up just the opening circle of when to time it is shorten. So I gotta be a tad bit more precise. I'm not your average tech shoto player using ice and gammas offensively. Anyways we can both disagree majority people will side with because tech shoto can spam beta explosions

[shell barn]

You literally NEED beta to 7 on tech shoto to even have a small chance in a fight if I'm being fr

[shell barn]

Debatable I'd say tech alpha requires more

[jolly roost]

I didn't we had restrictions on what we can and can't talk about 😂.Aye bro next time send me the Q/A list of what we can talk about. Because you were bringing up certain situations as well before i started mine.

[shell barn]

Clips into ground and moves super slow

At close to mid ranges it hits the map geometry mor than players if your sticking to a typical aim style lol

And there is no long range for tech shoto alpha

[raven dock]

Huh? When did I said that? I was just asking you 🫠

[jolly roost]

yeah in certain aspects but it's just overall projectile that makes it easier to lead the shots vs strike

[shell barn]

Also you gotta lead your shots ALOT

Allllll this for like 70 dmg and knockdown in two shots ✌️

[jolly roost]

^

[shell barn]

Awful

[shell barn]

Guess it's preference I find strike easier

[raven dock]

Yes? I was asking what about how situational that was

When I spoke about “restrictions”?

[jolly roost]

Yes but your clearly inferring that I'm bringing up certain situations, that require restrictions .

[raven dock]

And later I said “frequently, yes”, answering to your own situation, I never said about restrictions

Basically you compared frequency to consistency

Something that is in fact situational

Both difficulties for both shotos

[jolly roost]

It's not fact it's opinionated but keep living that mind set i guess. And i never said that you said" restrictions" bruh I said " I didn't know we had restrictions'" because you made a comment about my point being in certain situation which evidently has restrictions.... Get what I'm saying now? Basically your arguement is oh ot's situational. Which doesn't really matter because i was talking about how tech shotos gamma takes more skill than strike shotos gamma.

Nice debating or whatevs, I'm pretty sure majority in this channel will agree with you because of you know tech alpha into beta explosion doesn't take skill at all. No bad energy we chillin 👍? @raven dock

[raven dock]

Fair enough

Take a good rest

[raven dock]

We good, no worries

Just friendly debating

It’s alright

[shell barn]

Majority of the channel don't play tech shoto

Right?

[blissful palm]

I've been looking for it for a long time

[raven dock]

it's not mine

it's just for representation

-# and let me delete that before they do

[blissful palm]

Does that mean it's private? Sad

[raven dock]

i don't know, i never used that mod before

could be

[blissful palm]

[blissful palm]

https://tenor.com/view/they-got-him-ted-ted-show-gif-4342699035732514153

[shell barn]

GUYS PLEASE GO AND UPVOTE THE FEEDBACK I JS LEFT, IT'S ONLY ONE SENTENCE, IF THAT
THANKS 🙏

[solar sky]

What would be a good tuning build for tech shoto?

[mental heron]

These are the best for strike and tech shoto ?

[raven dock]

Both works good for strike, but the first works better for tech, and second works better for strike

[solar sky]

What would you use for the special tunning slots?

[blissful palm]

Tech Shoto probably wall runner and willpower

Strike Shoto is more flexible so idk

I've seen people enjoy Strike Shoto with Space Hop

[jolly roost]

Now that I thought about it. Not going to lie inherently tech shoto is the easier character to use vs strike shoto. But if you are caught by a strike shoto it almost for certain game over. Vs tech shoto you have better chance at escaping. One has to work a bit more to get a k'o vs the other

[quasi spoke]

strike feels much more easier than tech

tech is pretty useless if they know how to roll his beta explosions and counter. 2 hit knockdown alpha that he has as well.

[raven dock]

i only play strike so i don't have arguments here

[quasi spoke]

ah

[raven dock]

@obsidian tundra @bold ibex that simple buff making difference 🔥

[obsidian tundra]

Oooo
That looks so fancy
I need to try that

[bold ibex]

Our GOAT is in his prime

[raven dock]

The aerial melee buff is so fun

Makes beta or alpha easier to connect

🔥

[obsidian tundra]

Vro i NEED to do these

😭

[fathom fractal]

Thankfully i just got tech shoto from beginner rolls and i was wondering what tunings boost the dmg of beta detonation? Is it alpha tunings or beta tunings?

[steep skiff]

I think it's alpha tuning

But they might not scale with tunings at all

It's 100% not Beta tuning

[shell barn]

I've had people say all sorts

Some swear by beta tuning

Saying it increases explosion dmg

Logically it should be alpha

Like ingame

The beta explosion scales of alpha lvls

And other say it doesn't scale with tunes at all

Some say only gp/hp attack power+ affect explosion dmg

So it's a real pain

[steep skiff]

I think the HP GP one is real, but I honestly don’t remember

But buffing Beta explosion damage isn’t that huge anyway

It’s more of an space control thing

[shell barn]

Yh I agree

[jolly roost]

I tested in game bruh beta tunigs do increase beta dmg

You guys should go test it to confirm for yall selves

[quasi spoke]

who tf said they didn’t

[jolly roost]

if you read chats from above you can see who did

[quasi spoke]

syfm

[quasi spoke]

syfm

[jolly roost]

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-eyes-sorry-gif-20552303

I didn't snitch guys please don't hate me

[shell barn]

Fym bro?

I agree with wut he said

The explosion dmg being increased isn't too big of a deal when it's main strength is temporary area denial and space control

Sure is nice tho

[steep skiff]

No one asked about Beta damage

They asked about Beta explosion damage

But it’s true I haven’t tested it right now in this version

I did back when tuning first came out, I remember B damage not working.

However, it might have change with updates

[terse granite]

Any tuning for technical Todoroki?

[quasi spoke]

wall runner & fixer is his only saving grace

[shell barn]

On what costume?

And what normal tunes

They matter alot if ur recommending fixer

[quasi spoke]

og kung fu outfit

with alpha or hp atk pwr

[shell barn]

Yk how much dmg his alpha can do on this build?

Afaik his alpha has been gutted and I thought irredeemable through tuning

But maybe I'm wrong

[quasi spoke]

it’s irredeemable without fixer tbh

[shell barn]

Y hp?

Shouldn't the explosion be the thing you focus on?

Not his alpha bc

Well,

...

It's cheeks

70 dmg and knock down in 2 shots to simplify

That's being nice too, it's got so many other awful features

[steep skiff]

Huge hitbox and free « get off me » freeze

The explosion damage doesn’t matter in the slightest

It does ok damage already and you’re hitting so little of them in a game compared to alpha

[atomic saffron]

https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/leWsKu7JtjcLZ5qej?invite=cr-MSxoZUwsOTY0MDMxNA&v=7

kill all shinso players

[shell barn]

Other way round

You play tech shoto for his beta and explosion gng

Otherwise js use strike

[shell barn]

The huge hitbox Is a major downside

And it's slow asf

The freeze also got nerfed as to where you got time it perfect to counter certain moves

And some you can even do nothin about anymore

[steep skiff]

Yeah but the damage of the explosion doesn't matter

No one will get hit by this, and when they do it's not 10 damage that's gonna matter

[shell barn]

If your not hitting explosions as tech shoto what are you even doing 💀

[shell barn]

But you got a point with the 10 damage thing

But answer me this

Doesn't that apply to all characters and their moves?

And doesn't it also apply to his alpha

?

Sure maybe an extra 10 damage on his alpha would be nice if his alpha was actually good, and didn't knockdown in 2 hits

But

That's isn't the case...

[steep skiff]

If you're hitting 80 alpha a game and 10 explosions a game, it's more beneficial to increase the alpha damage

[steep skiff]

idk I don't play tech shoto that much

[shell barn]

Fairs

[shell barn]

True but

I hit just as many explosions as alpha icl

[shell barn]

Yeah I don't blame ya

He's cheeks rn

[steep skiff]

Yeah

On paper he looks super fun to play with all the zone control and stuff

But in reality it's just very frustrating to play

His day 1 power level would be acceptable by today's standard imo

[shell barn]

Very

[shell barn]

Yeah

The power creep is wildddd

[atomic saffron]

I think strike shoot isn't that bad

Shoto

I feel like he's really good when you're in an isolated part of the map behind Ur iceberg and just abusing the fact that U have a free shield and that Ur alpha goes thru it

Especially when there's like an AFO or OFA deku on your team when they do their longest moves thats just free eats for shoto alphas

But then again that goes for every other character

[shell barn]

Are you real?

"Strike shoto isn't that bad"

He's S tier

Needs a nerf

[shell barn]

I was talking bout tech btw

Must have been a misunderstanding

Tech shoto is cheeks rn

[ancient root]

no he isnt

oh wait

strike is s tier not tech

[steep skiff]

Strike is definitely top tier rn

Tech is not worth playing

[raven dock]

W Alpha

[atomic saffron]

Ohhh

[shell barn]

Yup

[shell barn]

LMAO

What is bro doing smh

That tech shoto is awful but

He still can be kinda free

[shell barn]

Funniest part is

Imo

This is a perfect situation for tech shoto

1v1 against a tech dabi in a small circle that's partially covering a building

If I had to had give rips to the tech shoto

Firstly, the better people you face the more you should try and hit the betas directly as opposed to crutching the (very roll-able) explosions

And once landing the beta then time your explosion accordingly to catch the wake-up which is free against characters with no hyper armour or movement (TECH DABI)

Use gammas and then alphas whilst strafing at a distance

You can waste his betas that he will use to block ur alphas

And your gamma will block his alphas

Eventually he will be forced to gamma and disperse your gammas

Once you've baited out his gamma

Do step 1

[shell barn]

As your betas penetrate the dabi gamma

You can poke him for loads of damage for free

And also if you notice your opponent is semi-competent and can roll your shi

Js use it to "herd" them into storm

[little ferry]

https://youtube.com/shorts/zn3Lo9KUMBQ?si=-vTaZxiRH7xF6j22

How is this possible?

[opal axle]

because he's running acceleration

[little ferry]

So hitting 2 beta's is only possible if someone uses acceleration?

[little ferry]

How do you freeze someone with your Beta

[steep skiff]

Specifically melee 1 > Melee 2 > Beta freezes, but not long enough for a second beta usually

[opal axle]

it's easier to land when attack speed is increased. You can also use blue cards to pull it off too.

[little ferry]

How do blue cards help?

Also any other Strike Todoroki combos?

[opal axle]

Using blue cards increases attack speed and movement speed

[little ferry]

I didn't know it increased attack speed

Thx

[raven dock]

it's funny also

you can do that without the speed cards

plus the good connection

acceleration makes it easier to pull it off

and funny too, it's basically shoto with two automatic speed cards

[little ferry]

Good to know

Any other tips

[raven dock]

about that combo?

now that his aerial got buffed

you can close in with aerial melee after gammas pretty easily

and follow up with a beta afterwards

[opal axle]

the community be crying about the new deku when strike todo can do everything plus more. With way less effort 😭

[shell barn]

For reallll

He's lowk broken

But idk y it's still low-key

Because he's been broken for a while lmao

[wanton mist]

really? I thought you can always land a second beta, or you can just unfreeze them with another m1. I'd likely do m1 m2 m1 beta m1 (alpha) beta if I was trying to do this in a game.
I thought acceleration was for making the m2 to beta part true (which I think you could also use a melee cancel for but I think the melee cancel is hard af?)

[zenith kayak]

Would any of you have a tech shoto tunning build on fantasy outfit i could use?

[shell barn]

Which styles?

[zenith kayak]

? Technically shoto

[shell barn]

Which costume styles

[shell barn]

The default?

Or are you willing to spend hero souls

[zenith kayak]

I will spend i got 3400 to spare

[zenith kayak]

So any suit works for me

[shell barn]

Ahhh ok

[zenith kayak]

I plan on using him as my 2nd choice if dekus takwn

[shell barn]

Tech shoto?

[zenith kayak]

Yuh

[shell barn]

Aight suit yourself

I would go space hop wallrunner

On his villain style

[zenith kayak]

Alr ty

[shell barn]

Or

You could try the new AFO tuning on his villain style

Instead of space hop

If u wait a bit

[zenith kayak]

What does it do?

[shell barn]

2x reload speed after guardbreak

For 15 secs

I'm pretty sure

[zenith kayak]

Can this game be anymore unbalanced

[shell barn]

Might wanna ask around tho

FR

[zenith kayak]

Imagin that on rapid deku ur pretty much a dead man😭

[fathom fractal]

Does shoto have a good costume for fixer?

[lavish helm]

i feel this

ive been playing this character for a few seasons and ive watched him get power creeped

like every patch he's consistently been buffed and idk why people havent caught on

[quasi spoke]

og Kung Fu with wallrunner

[fathom fractal]

Thx bro

Btw i tested what tunings boost beta’s explosion dmg

And its beta tunings

4 beta tunings + GP atk+ boosted the explosion to 181

When i took all beta tunings out and slotted in alpha tunings it brought down the dmg to 160~

[hushed tangle]

Let me see

[patent granite]

Make this shotos special action

Why has he never done this ever again?

[quasi spoke]

because he's not hateful anymore

[patent granite]

That doesn’t mean he should hold back

[quasi spoke]

nah he got the Neji treatment. as soon as bro stopped being mad about his family, he got weaker. he was struggling against tetsutetsu lol 😂

he peaked in that dabi fight but he needs to get like Geten.

[gritty sluice]

On Which ability i have to rely when i play tech todoroki? Like what i have to tune the most and whats the level up order?

[shell barn]

Beta level 7 above all

Beta and beta explosion are your bread and butter moves

[shell barn]

Move specific Normal Tunings are kinda mid for him so just fo for general hp/gp attack power+ tunes

I'd say get beta to 7

Then max alpha

And gamma is meh

It's great but doesn't NEED levels like beta does

Gamma is super solid at any level so dont prioritise it

[shell barn]

In the beta b4 season 1

He used to have a flamethrower

But they scrapped it on the games official s1 release

[shell barn]

Proof please 🙏

[shell barn]

Me 2

[shell barn]

Awesome

[shell barn]

Let's keep it that way 🤫

[gritty sluice]

I thought that too but beta explosion depends on alpha level up?

[gritty sluice]

Thank you

[shell barn]

It does

[shell barn]

The damage is way less significant than the explosion radius tho

And the explosion aoe also benefits much more than the damage

With alpha lvl 9 amd beta lvl 1

Your never gonna be hitting the explosion in the first place

And can't effectively catch wake ups

And beta lvl 4 is pretty rough too

So just max the explosion size as it almost triples from only 6 lvl cards

Whereas the explosion damage gets a little boost from a higher leveled alpha

Even if the alpha levels significantly boosted explosion dmg

You wouldn't rlly be hitting the explosion without lvl 7 beta

Explosions size is purely beta level dependant whereas explosion dmg purely scales off of alpha

Size>>>dmg

Every single time

[gritty sluice]

Ok thank you:)

But strike todo is now the more powerful one right?

[shell barn]

Fosho

Strike is super powerful rn

Tech shotos kinda weak

Rm

But I play still play tech bc he's super fun

And he can be very powerful in specific circumstances

(Small zones, late game , building play etc...)

[gritty sluice]

I understand

Im questioning why.

They usually make the money with quirksets

So they are actually more premium

[shell barn]

Yuh

He was super good on release

Dunno what happened

Tbh if they reverted him to his release strength

He would be a very solid pick in today's meta

He would be able to keep up

The power creep in this game is crazy

[shell barn]

I'm js hoping they buff him soon 🙏

[fathom fractal]

350 hp on tech shoto cuz he has no mobility

[gritty sluice]

This game makes no sense. Most strike characters with insane mobility have 350

[fathom fractal]

Yeah lol

I think there is more strike characters with 350 hp than assaults

[zenith kayak]

Hawks needs help his moves can active when he stunned

Isnt that just unfair?

Do i need two separate builds fot strike and tech shoto?

[gritty sluice]

Im no pro. But i use wallrunner and spacehop. Works perfect for both

[severe ferry]

Any tunning builds for tech shoto my friend picked him up

[fathom fractal]

Mine is undefeatable original ver with crushing pu charge and Wallrunner

[steep skiff]

If you have wallrunner you’re good to go.

Alpha damage is good on both.
Any cooldown reduction is good on both. (I like Y cooldown reduction a lot)
Beta damage is good on both.

[shell barn]

Wallrunners pretty good, high-speed replenish, spiraling leap,
gp+hp sucker combo

Melee tunings CAN work

Keyword "can"

[zenith kayak]

Ty ty

[zenith kayak]

I have his fantasy and his undefeated and his half ice suit which is better for tunning?

[steep skiff]

Honestly idk, I run undefeated basic color w/ wall runner and red kiri SP tuning

I’m overseas and I don’t have my PC so I can’t help much

[atomic saffron]

Undefeated is one of his best outfits

[zenith kayak]

I got it by accident

[atomic saffron]

i meaan

me too

and i was like

the tunings are awesomew tf

[zenith kayak]

Base suit is good enough?

Or do i need villian style or something

[wanton mist]

base is by far the best, rest is kinda meh

[zenith kayak]

Alr ty ty

He was my main back in s1 and s2 just missing him

Wanted to use him once again

[zenith kayak]

Is kota finder a good pick for it?

[wanton mist]

yay

[zenith kayak]

Too many dmg slots omg😭

I think i will use them on alpha and beta stuff gamma doesn't seem to need them much right?

[wanton mist]

I wouldn't recommend it. You don't have the mobility to go get him yourself, so unless you have a high mobility duo I wouldn't recommend it

[wanton mist]

yup :3

[zenith kayak]

What do u think i should use in ky dmg slot then?

Speed self rez maybe?

[wanton mist]

for tech esp no I think. HP and GP tunes would be my first choice, then I personally do beta (mainly for strike but others may prefer alpha

[zenith kayak]

I was told one build is good for both tech and strike

Tunning sure is hard ngl

[wanton mist]

I use crushing PU, willpower is an option as is abilty manifest and perhaps revenge strike. Sorry being talked to irl so hard to chat at the same time.

speedy self res can be good but ideally you have a team that knows about it and protects you, wouldn't recommend for soloq

[zenith kayak]

No worries am just thinking if am using this build for tech and strike shouldn't i focus dmg slots of alpha and beta?

[wanton mist]

it sure is

[wanton mist]

sure do so. If you buff two different skills though always replace them with hp/gp attack. helps more overall

[zenith kayak]

I see

[zenith kayak]

I think crushing pu chargé is good for main slot

[wanton mist]

that's what I run

[fathom fractal]

Me as tech shoto daring the ofa deku to come close after i throw gamma at a wall and standing in it

[zenith kayak]

Honestly i just flank him from behind cuz i hate his beta

[fathom fractal]

That move is an easy dodge

And his charged beta can be avoided by neutral jumping

[zenith kayak]

I use him yet no one ever thinks to do that 😭

[shell barn]

So real 🙏

Sucks when he catches you in the open tho

Especially off spawn without beta lvls

[zenith kayak]

Am still a shoto pro

Even tho i haven't used him since s3

[gritty sluice]

The red one got buffed very strong

[zenith kayak]

Yup got my skills back

[fathom fractal]

been popping off with tech shoto, he can manage any situation with the right planning

my level up path is b7 a4 g4 a9 g9 b9

[zenith kayak]

I manage with red shoto cuz that beta will most likely hit everytime

[neat prairie]

Am I allowed to talk about cheaters in this section

[zenith kayak]

Yuh

Rat them out

[raven dock]

If includes cheaters using shoto go ahead too

[shell barn]

I wish he could 🙏

But ur being way to optimistic

[shell barn]

Same

Not set in stone but usually this ones the best imo

[neat prairie]

Ok then who let shoto use great glacier aegir

[little ferry]

https://youtu.be/-jCotK7OvjI?si=iRqs2IJzubVa1Pa0

[neat prairie]

Why didn’t he heal up when he was at the verge of death😞

[quasi spoke]

playin and shii. he almost got up 😭

[little ferry]

I kinda forgot about that until you just mentioned it

That would've been embarrasing

[shell barn]

It's... similar...

[shell barn]

Lmao

[little ferry]

Lol

[neat prairie]

Got an pic of the hacker too

[fathom fractal]

absolutely enjoying tech todo

i wanted him for like 5 seasons

[vital estuary]

Half hot half cold

[small condor]

The best match I've played in all the seasons was with Shoto (this was the Tech when he was at his peak)

[neat prairie]

Before Shoto’s alpha was nerfed to 96

Idk if shoto deserved the nerf

[small condor]

And with a good tuning it would blow up a lot. They nerfed it too much.

[neat prairie]

Fr

[fathom fractal]

He was doing 128 per alpha???????

[small condor]

With Tuning. I don't remember how much damage I did at base without that system.

[neat prairie]

He did 126 i think

Or 114

[shell barn]

Downs left right and centre

Tbh by today's standard release tech shoto would be balanced

The rlly need to buff my boy

He got gutted 🙏

[small condor]

😞

[little ferry]

My best match yet

[opal axle]

good job, Mist

[little ferry]

😊

[little ferry]

Today is my peak

[little ferry]

In what order do you guys level your abilities up

I do a4, g4, a9, b9, g9

[steep skiff]

I used to do G9 A9 B9
Now I’m starting to do G4 B4 A4 B9 A9 G9

I honestly dunno what I should level up except G4 I’m pretty sure is first priority

Leveling up A is cute but it’s just a bit of damage and I’d rather have bigger and stronger walls on a shorter cooldown

[wanton mist]

silly me do b4 g4 a4 b9 g9 a9 but I have a show up and explode them playstyle, I just move around the map with wall runner, show up, gamma alpha beta, or just beta, or double beta, or anything really, so cause of wallrunner I get close range a lot to use beta

[steep skiff]

G4 and B4 are super important imo

Idk how good A4 is, I guess you’re hitting a lot of alphas here and there so the damage increase adds up faster than on Beta and Gamma but the added utility and reduced cooldown is so good

This game has been out for more than two years and I feel like we still haven’t optimized leveling up

[coarse relic]

yooo

[raven dock]

the goat still up

[ancient root]

@raven dock ty for carrying me

i was that tech mirio

sorry i didnt perform well

i was lagging a bit

[raven dock]

no worries, that was a great match

i tried my best as well

[ancient root]

ty

[ancient root]

11 ko match

i gotta improve

[raven dock]

takes a while, but yeah you can do it

took me months to get used to every character on the game

that is playing with and against

have faith on ya

[ancient root]

thanks bro

im tryna finnaly hit ace

still a long way behing

[coarse relic]

who here is the best todoroki player tell me ur name i want u to train me

is it @raven dock ?

[raven dock]

Yo

[coarse relic]

yooo

go DM

if u want

or we can talk here

[raven dock]

I prefer here since I can taught all things I know to whoever wants to learn

But I don’t mind