Ochaco Uraraka

[tropic osprey]

this ones a one shot combo, i prefer using her special action and jumping before combo but staying on ground is fine- beta beta, gamma, alpha alpha, drop gamma, alpha when they are falling

but the easiest to do imo is beta alpha gamma anf then from there id do alpha and then drop gamma since thats good enough for me

[surreal peak]

thankss

[west jacinth]

Dang what happened here I got tired of reading and I love ochako drama.
Anyways besides the points everyone else prolly made,
F O V
u get to attack for free often and no 1 sees it coming. And i gota choose to either see u and not other 4 people in front of me or the 4 ppl and get stun locked by beta and i pray im not caught jumping cuz then a beta is just death atp

🏳️‍🌈🚗

[sinful cedar]

why are you so dedicated to hate in the channels lol

[glad summit]

my question is why they always put that pride flag next to the emojis

[sinful cedar]

to imply that it’s gay in a offensive way

[glad summit]

oh i know, i just wanted to see if theyd actually admit it

pretty distatseful, i dont like rapid ochaco myself but no need to be homophobic about it lol

[glossy valve]

Lol

Guys did i eat

is ur gamma at 8 on purpose btw

[onyx dew]

i used to do that but no

i just max gamma last

[glossy valve]

ok. i heard smth like g9 ruins gameplay

[tropic osprey]

really??

[glossy valve]

No i have no idea that's why im asking

[glossy valve]

Oh my goodness.. blue or yellow prochaco?

[tropic osprey]

rapid ochaco🥹

[prime kelp]

what are the level orders for rapid ochaco??

[onyx dew]

B7 > A4 > G4 > (A9 > B9) > G9

A9 or B9 is interchangable

[velvet meteor]

Ochaco

[tropic osprey]

uh personally i do beta 7 > max out gamma and then alpha - 4

[stray spoke]

Thats terrible why

💀

[tropic osprey]

it gets me a lot of kos and dmg

it works out for me

🫩

[stray spoke]

Ight brah

[tropic osprey]

i dont get whays wrong w that level plan though

[stray spoke]

Alpha cooldown

🥹

[tropic osprey]

lowk not a problem for me 🥹🥹🥹

[stray spoke]

U a gamma merchant ic

Alpha 9 with revenge tech so nice

[tropic osprey]

have u tried spiraling leap on her

its so freaking goated

[stray spoke]

Nah not yet I should tho

Ochako float hinders me alot too unless I'm running

I only have like one good pur for her tho

[tropic osprey]

is it volunteer

right her float is lowk really bar by itself imp

[stray spoke]

Volunteer and Kunoichi

[tropic osprey]

kunoichi is so goated on her i need that costume

[stray spoke]

Really I only see like only 2 valuable builds on it

[tropic osprey]

Which color versions do u have

imo u dont even need that nuch red tunings w ochaco because her damage w no tuning can still do oneshits

oneshits

[stray spoke]

Uhh I run only the double blue one since I'm stingy with materials

Yeah tuning for damage is overrated imo

I run wallrunner card dupe to farm level cards

[tropic osprey]

wait how would wallr unner work on ochaco

dont u mainly stay in air

[stray spoke]

I just use it for movement techs n I dont like staying in the air cuz of beamers

Back when wallrunner was broken

🥹

[tropic osprey]

i remember.. its so eugh now

[stray spoke]

Helps too if I run out of alphas

[tropic osprey]

i see

[glad summit]

helps you save alphas for combos

wall runner is goated in general anyways

[stray spoke]

Yeah I mainly run the tod combo mostly too

But then they have teammates n I just wanna run

[tropic osprey]

still imo wall runner is hard to use for characters who stat in air

[glad summit]

ochacos alpha is so disgustingly strong

[tropic osprey]

right i did 100 dmg w it earlier

[glad summit]

be hitting people for 300 damage so fast

better than beamers highkey

[tropic osprey]

she has a lot of touch of death combos

[stray spoke]

Alpha damage sure is strong and it brings you to the other person

Yeah I mainly stick with beta gamma alpha alpha gamma beta alpha

Then I'm out of alphas

I wouldn't have this issue if I did other combos tho

[tropic osprey]

that combos so good but it uses ip ally he alphas😭

[stray spoke]

Yeahh

😭

[glad summit]

i do beta swing 2x thrown beta gamma alpha 3x release gamma

lot of people panic roll that thrown beta lol

[stray spoke]

I may have to try that 🤔

[tropic osprey]

thats the normal one shot convo right

[stray spoke]

People love to panic roll

[glad summit]

nah most people do thrown beta into gamma and combo from there

[stray spoke]

Yeah thats a new combo to me

[glad summit]

they dont lead with the opening swings

[stray spoke]

Never seen someone lead with open swings

[glad summit]

better for grounded combos

[stray spoke]

True

[tropic osprey]

also does anyone else realize dhe hss a gamma bug

idk hwo to do it but sometimes it ignores her cd of her gamma and lets u place two gammas

[glad summit]

yes

[stray spoke]

Yes

[glad summit]

idk what causes it

but its funny when it happens

[stray spoke]

Idk if it's me getting hit but

Ts annoying 😭 I be tossing combos cuz of it

[strange cliff]

I think it works like the ibara alpha extra damage bug. I believe its based on being hit at the right time

[glad summit]

you know they should really nerf the amount of knockdown her thrown cars do. you can infinitely juggle people as long as they have gp

it does only 20 knockdown

[stray spoke]

Yeah think u should only be able to throw 2 n they kd

[glad summit]

its agony

[stray spoke]

Car is so broken

Yea ts not fair

N if they dont tech in the air

They eat a car or alpha

😭

[tropic osprey]

shh … nobody plays rapid ochaco lets keep ts to ourselves guys and make the devs buff her more

[glad summit]

EVERYONE PLAYS HER

AHHHHP

i see 3-4 every lobby

[stray spoke]

Reddit n TikTok know it's only a matter of seasons atp

😭

[glad summit]

i cant believe her base kit is so strong that it makes her assauly kit looks way more balanced

[tropic osprey]

no i swear theres more yellow ochaco then rapid

[tropic osprey]

right

i used to main assault ochaco🤢🤢 before i learned there were other ways to score

[stray spoke]

Idk why ppl play yellow ochako when blue is right there

[glad summit]

i actually think assault ochaco is super overrated in terms of her strength. i think her beta is really the only super duper strong thing she has rn

[stray spoke]

💀

Yellow ochako been buns

[glad summit]

ive found my people

[stray spoke]

Only thing carrying her is beta n gamma

[tropic osprey]

exactlt bruh… yellow ochaco only has one one shot combo i believe and its extremely dependent on hold gamma

[glad summit]

"her alpha is so strong" ever heard of rolling pal

[stray spoke]

But even then beta is easily rollable n gamma hitbox is worse than blue ochako

[tropic osprey]

her alpha is so slow aswell

[tropic osprey]

i agree

[glad summit]

its harder to trap people with it as well since you cant do like alpha into gamma like rapid can do with her beta

[tropic osprey]

i rlly dont like how both ochacos skill sets can be easily rolled

[glad summit]

you reallllllly have to catch people off guard with assault ochaco

that being said, its not impossible to tod on her

[stray spoke]

But even then blue ochako better at 3rd partying n teamcombos

[glad summit]

yes

[stray spoke]

Just overshadowed by base ochako

[glad summit]

rapid ochaco + any beamer teammate is pretty much guaranteed death

[stray spoke]

Yeah it's aids

[stray spoke]

Just walk away from the game atp

[tropic osprey]

omg rapid ochako w two strikers is evil

i kod half the lobby w her

[stray spoke]

Gamma doing over 100 and alpha doing over 100

Easily a top 5 character rn

[trim sky]

whats the best tuning on ochaco nowadays.. is spiraling leap + revenge assault ok? or is there better tunings?

[onyx dew]

they said i was crazy for saying she was top 3

[stray spoke]

they bugging then 😭

[onyx dew]

#1233262445527830598 message i scored this mid-debate and then the chat went silent

like

who else is killing you off 1 interaction with barely any time to react

[stray spoke]

yea just ochako rn 😭

ever since i played her in solo que ive been seeing green

[tiny ingot]

Yellow is more fun

[stray spoke]

fuh no

[tiny ingot]

I like brawlerss

[stray spoke]

fair

[tropic osprey]

blue ochacos more fun

[onyx dew]

https://tenor.com/view/mahito-jujutsu-kaisen-kento-nanami-yuji-itadori-gif-19792074

[glad summit]

this is what purgatory looks like

[onyx dew]

yeahhhhh

[tropic osprey]

thags a form of bullying

[serene pecan]

Nerf her quick set bro 🫩

[snow chasm]

ok

[tropic osprey]

its not rlly that bad in my opinion

[balmy crag]

any good tuning for ochaco?

[gloomy needle]

Volunteer Activities (Pink)

Fixer + Electrification

I have a "Personal" build and it gets the job done.

[balmy crag]

alright

[balmy crag]

what does fixer do

[gloomy needle]

Everything under it is enhanced.

More hp, More atk, more defense depending on what you put.

[balmy crag]

oh thanks

[gloomy needle]

Yup yup

I like to see it as a beginner outtfit cuz it was free

[balmy crag]

this good?

[gloomy needle]

You play rapid or Assault?

[balmy crag]

rapid

[gloomy needle]

Ight bett.. Lemme think..

You have Electrification so.. Under that in my "personal" opinion would be...

In order
★ Fixer (Monoma)
• Ibara
• AFO
• All Might (Assault)
• Dabi (Strike)
• Overhaul

For the Assault Hero side
★Mt. Lady/All Might/Endeavor/Kirishima (Whichever fits your playstyle)

And In order..
• Mirio
• Bakugo (rapid)
• Endeavor (If he's not at the very top) if he is then Assault Shigiraki
• Aizawa OR Denki(Tech denki is better cuz u get alpha dmg and reload speed)
• Shigiraki (Red cuz there's only two red villians)

This is my OLD build but, with Fixer (Monoma) + AFO, Ibara, and overhaul I get a lot more HP if he was on the right side but, Since my monoma is on the left side I get more dmg.

I like to think "Ok, I can either get more Hp or more Dmg.

[exotic skiff]

Is hp attack power better than beta attack power +

[alpine totem]

hp is better, like given 2 red slots u always want gp+ and hp+, given 3 slots gp+ hp+ hp+ (one single red slot is debatable but i think nobody ever picks those outfits), after that you start adding alphas gammas etc. Unless your going for smth specific like deku only needs his alpha, plus he cant use his own tuning (gp+). This build above to be more optimized needs to switch alpha+ and beta+ to gp+ hp+. Why? The idea of skill X atk+ is that it doesnt matter if its hp or gp, having those switched to hp+ and gp+ will result in literally the same for alpha and beta but you also buff melee and gamma. Skill X ATK worth 2 slots, hp gp worth 3 slots (considering melee - 4 slots)

[alpine totem]

hp alpha = hp hp for alpha towards hp. In terms of the build above
Right now:
gp: 1x Alpha, 1x Beta, 2x Gamma
hp: 1x Alpha, 1x Beta, 2x Gamma
After:
gp: 1x Alpha, 1x Beta, 3x Gamma ( + melee)
hp: 1x Alpha, 1x Beta, 3x Gamma (also + melee)

theres also room for new endeavor tuning

[regal otter]

Any advice fr a noob

[gloomy needle]

Hp atk power is better. Again— that's an old build...

I'm actually using
Hp defense
Hp defense, Gp atk power
Gp Atk power
Hp atk power, special action reload+
Wall Jump HT+, Quirk skill Y atk power

((If u don't know the characters then..))
All Might
Endeavor
Deku
Present mic
Bakugo

In that order. Sadly Monoma is Not in the lvl 11 spot but, its decent enough.

[exotic skiff]

Alr thank uuu

[glacial girder]

Hear me out

And I know it'll sound super far-fetched

I want a complete re work on Assault Ochaco because she's not an Assault

Firstly, she feels more like a Support because her damage is pressure enough to want to stay back, and her Gamma practically grants area control like a support.

So she is now Support Ochaco.
And with that, change her HP value to 300 or 325.
Decrease the reload speed of Beta at all levels drastically.
Decrease the damage of lunge attack of Alpha
Opponents caught in Gamma can now evade out of it if they have GP.
Gamma platform no longer does damage to opponents when generated. Only does damage when destroyed/falling.
Decrease the reload speed of Special Action. Special Action reloads faster if zero gravity is given to a teammate (to better encourage the new support playstyle).

There. Ochaco's QSS is not an Assault. She is Support Ochaco.

[glad summit]

none of these sound very good except for the hp and beta changes

because this just encourages alpha spam, which is super boring

her held gamma also should not do damage when falling, it doing damage when being activated is fine

[glacial girder]

Damage during activation is what causes the dumb 400 damage combo.

So I'm taking that away

[glad summit]

they should just add more knockdown then.

which it originally had

they changed that last second. before her release

[glacial girder]

Yeah

Just in general, Assault Ochaco is incorrect

An Assault is a character whose moveset does heavy hitting damage, but the moves are not meant to combo into each other.

[glad summit]

i mean

every character is like that

[glacial girder]

The only Assault thing about Asschaco is her HP. 😂

[glad summit]

roles really mean nothing in this game.

[glacial girder]

Everything else is bs

[glad summit]

shinso was gonna be support but they changed it last second

lol

[glacial girder]

Reloads of a Tech
Area Control of a Support
Damage of a Strike
Bulk of an Assault
Mobility of a Rapid

[tiny ingot]

Every assault character has combos except kiri

The thing that binds them together is that they're all brawlers

[glad summit]

thats what makes assault so fun tbh

[tiny ingot]

Yeah gotta be my favorite class

If there's one guy I think needs a change in role it's assdeavor

[glad summit]

hes a tech

easily

[tiny ingot]

Yes so he can match with his sons

I think they wanted to do a triangle thing with him all might and hawks so they just made a set and said yeah assault

I wanted assault endeavor to be him punching ppl smh

talk about off topic

[sleek flume]

How good is the default casual wear for rapid ochaco

[glad summit]

one of the best damage tunings for both versions of her

actually its THE best one

[sleek flume]

What’s the best tunings to run on it for rapid?

Fixer wall runner?

[glad summit]

i like wall runner and high speed replenishment

but fixer is also viable. especially with endeavors new regular tuning boosting gp damage.

[sleek flume]

I may try that tbh

What about the other tunings?

Hp attack power and A attack power?

[sinful cedar]

why does no one ever talk about her quipao heat version lol? it’s always like her casual

[glad summit]

yeah thats good for both

rapid ochas alpha is insanely busted

[glossy valve]

BLUE CHEECKSACO MAINS!! NEW COMBO ALERT || maybe not new ||

Beta > gamma > beta > gamma > alpha spam (usually 2 alphas, 3 if ur lucky). this is a guaranteed gaurdbreak at lvl 1 and if ur at lvl 9's it does gaurdbreak AND more than half HP (varies if they are assault or smth). I will show a clip of me doing it

[glossy valve]

i think a lot of people do

b7 a4 g9 a9 b9
i do that and it works the best. alpha doesn't get more range when u level it up but the reload speed is useful. especially if ur spamming ur alphas or doing the combo that i just mentioned

[deep dust]

Quick questions from a season 1 Ochako player that has since not been keeping up:
what’s the current best Rapid Ochako combo on Gamma?
What I use rn is Gamma > Alpha > Gamma > Alpha the day 1 combo basically.
I’ve been hit with some weird wizardry using Beta throw here and there and I wonder if that’s more optimal.
Also car throw into Gamma, people seem to be able to roll out, is it a distance thing where you need to be far away?

[sleek flume]

Yeah I wonder that as well

[deep dust]

Doesn’t the second B knockdown?

[glossy valve]

Nope

I'll show u in a sec i'm busy

[glad summit]

if its thrown beta no, her thrown beta has very little knockdown. its comparable to beamer's alpha knockdown.

[deep dust]

Wait really

But it still staggers to enable the combo to work ?

[glad summit]

yup

[deep dust]

Amazing

[glad summit]

her thrown beta is stupid strong

[tropic osprey]

wait guys help me on my builda

[sleek flume]

Is it bad I’m considering using keys on volunteer activity skin just for the aura 😭😭😭

I love that skin

[tiny ingot]

Nah keys aren't as big a deal as rainbows imo bc of premium login

Tho if you're low on crystals don't do that

[glad summit]

id be happy if they even added 1 rainbow card per week for the login bonus

its so annoying once youve used up all the license ones

some events should give them too instead of the useless gallery pieces

[tiny ingot]

Same

Like you really have to hold back on making builds bc it's so expensive

[sleek flume]

The events need a massive overhaul

The crystals are nice but for the most parts they really should give tuning material and tickets

That’s what I hope they realize at least

[worn whale]

Drop event💔

[sleek flume]

The only thing that drops is sadness and despair

💀

[lavish patio]

True 😔

[glossy valve]

blue ochaco mains, is alpha worth leveling over gamma? what are ur level orders

[trim sky]

why is ochacos alpha so unreliable

this cant just be happening to me right bc its really annoying

[sleek flume]

Man on PlayStation endeavor makes the game lag so bad

[glad summit]

her alpha is very very strong

better than most beamers, can be fired super fast. very broken ability in her kit

i personally do beta 7 alpha 9 gamma 9 beta 9.

[tiny ingot]

It looks like you just missed

[solid dust]

LOL

[ebon venture]

I'm no expert but i think you just missed in this clip but i could be wrong

[glad summit]

alright im gonna post my ideas here for an asschaco rework

assault ochaco ability rework:

alpha bullet speed is faster by 10%, but damage is reduced by 10 at all levels, the swung alpha is unaffected. . held alpha has improved tracking and consumes only 2 charges. her alpha in both forms is super easy to avoid, it really only can consistently hit on unaware targets or people in the sky. speeding up her alpha will give her a better chance to hit people actively fighting her. damage has been reduced since the move will be easier to land.

beta now has two charges (no longer percentage based) but each charge has 15% less duration (30% less distance traveled than before). penalty cooldown time is increased by 4 seconds. beta does 15 less damage per hit but has 25 less knockdown value. reduced end lag so that beta can be comboed into other moves. the idea of this change is to turn beta into a more offensive combo based move rather than a constant runaway tool. it keeps assault ochaco more brawly which aligns with her assault role more.

held gamma has a larger hitbox at levels 1-3. held gamma no longer damages enemies when it falls/breaks. tap gamma cant combo into held gamma unless you are in a low ceiling area, this will fix that issue. also the platform doing damage as it breaks/falls is silly so removing that damage is fair.

her hp will remain the same, the changes to her beta will make her less mobile so she will need to spend more time on the ground meaning she will take more damage.

special action will go back to the 20 second cooldown rather than the 15 that it is now.

oh almost forgot to mention too, her held gamma will get increased knockdown power from 50 to 150. this should help prevent her tods but still allow high damage combos.

[glossy valve]

YOU COMPLETELY NEGLECT GAMMA??? Do u not use gamma?

[glossy valve]

it's cuz u missed. also bro ur on pc with pro aim. that beta hit was lethal i dont think a missed alpha will kill your experience.

[sinful cedar]

i do the same level up order and its because i use alpha a lot more than gamma for the damage

kinda like how gamma is just there for the stun ig

[glad summit]

i use gamma

but gamma is only hitting twice compared to alpha hitting three times in your combos. its better to have alpha leveled up for overall more dps

not to mention that you can do thrown beta into alpha at any point if you whiff your gamma, so its good to have at the ready.

[onyx dew]

alphamaxxers are knowers

[glossy valve]

what is ur gamma alpha combo 😨😨

[glossy valve]

Like guys what ochaco combo should i do??? rn im doing beta gamma beta gamma alpha alpha. instant guardbreak. But like is there smth better?

[onyx dew]

(beta) > gamma > alpha > alpha > delay gamma drop > beta > alpha

350hp tod goes like:

beta (spin, 2 hits) > beta throw > gamma (here they can mash an attack or try to time their roll if they react) > alpha (x3) > gamma drop

against 400HPs you can do alpha (x2) after the first gamma, do the gamma drop and land one final alpha for a little more damage

doesn’t matter for characters any lower because they just die from full shields

[glad summit]

balanced!

[tiny ingot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1382888322803830836/1388182238356574279/image0.gif

[onyx dew]

dumb character

[glad summit]

no its okay because it takes aim and not many ochacos can do it!!!

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-tm-opera-o-uma-musume-tmoperao-laughing-gif-8578098772917498051

[onyx dew]

too much reward for medium effort

medium effort at most

[calm grotto]

Its all skill u can find any skilled player who can beat her well except some characters who are just spam ig

You réaction alone proves how brain dead you are lol

[onyx dew]

W bait

[glad summit]

what skill

https://tenor.com/view/agnes-tachyon-uma-musume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-beginning-of-a-new-era-gif-17632146707993659242

[calm grotto]

You cant know what you don't ahve

[ember latch]

There is skill but it definitely not that that much lmao

[glad summit]

the only thing i can argue is her alpha needing some aim

thats about it

[ember latch]

Not much risk at all tbh

[glad summit]

her beta and gamma are pretty easy to land. especially with how inconsistent that gamma is when rolling it

[calm grotto]

I don't even use her lol i just know nothing can be done without skill

[ember latch]

They really do need to make gamma more straight forward it’s wild

[ember latch]

What kind of logic is that

[calm grotto]

Can u do something without knowing hwo to do it?

[glad summit]

the basic skill of knowing your controller buttons

!!!

[calm grotto]

Who doesn't know it?

[ember latch]

I mean. She’s not exactly complex

[calm grotto]

Ur name is real tho😭

[ember latch]

It sure is

[calm grotto]

But joke is an understatement lets find something worse

[ember latch]

I can’t even say but with 2 T’s here so I’m a bit limited

[glad summit]

its just learning the proper order of the attacks you need to throw out, which isnt difficult but just takes practice

[calm grotto]

Lol

[calm grotto]

We dont talk about the natural Asians who are good at everything

[ember latch]

And even if you do have an issue with it, Ochaco can be played very safely and significantly more direct if needed

300 hp rapid you can just leave a lot if scenarios if you mess up

[ember latch]

How hard do you think this character is bruh

[glad summit]

with some of the best mobility in the game. her float and alphas send her so far

[calm grotto]

I say like 5 out of 10 unless ur lagging then u gotta try harder

[glad summit]

always let your baby ochaco's win

[worthy canopy]

What's the best level up order for assault Ochako

[glad summit]

i have a couple level up paths i do. my two favorites are

a4 g4 a7 g7 b7

a4 g4 b4 a7 g7 b7

maxxing them beyond 7 doesnt matter really since its just damaged that gets changed

its important to get gamma to 4 no matter what tho, you cant combo tap gamma into held gamma at level 1-3 because the hitbox is too small, but 4 and beyond will combo

ive been enjoying the second level up path more recently. betas duration and hitbox is so small at level 1-3, really feels great having it leveled during mid game.

[worthy canopy]

Oh neat

Cause i got her randomly pulling for enjis new skin and tested her out in my last match she's fun

[glad summit]

wanna learn her basic combos?

[worthy canopy]

Yes pls

[glad summit]

your bread and butter will be tap gamma into held alpha. when you have these at level 7 they will guard break/nearly guard break.

if youre too far from your tap gamma stun you can do beta into tap alpha or held alpha.

if youre right on top of someone and stun them with tap gamma you can do held gamma afterwards and do held alpha or tap alpha. this one does a ton of damage, you can even get the tap gamma to hit as it falls if you line it up right.

beta into tap alpha at any time is a pretty good combo. you can do held alpha but i find that one to be inconsistent unless theyre in the air.

one noteworthy thing, if your opponent has no gp, you can hit them twice with alpha. really fun to juggle them in the air with it.

her gamma is very easy to react to, i find its best to third party or drop out of the sky onto unaware opponents to get it to land more easily.

alpha is as well, alpha spamming is really weak unless your opponent is in the air despite what a lot of people say.

[worthy canopy]

Thank you

[glossy valve]

did i eat

[rain arch]

Does anyone know how to do the ochako stun lock? Rapid?

[onyx dew]

hit someone airborne with a car throw while they still have GP

car > car > alpha (guardbreak that restands) > car > alpha is a true combo if they don’t use any mobility to get out

[rain arch]

Kay thnx

[steady dune]

Did you put the power of the sun in this screenshot?!?!?!

how is it so much brighter than everything else on my phone????

Also, you left no crumbs

[glacial girder]

Too lazy to type it again

[steel furnace]

Real💔

She needs to step up and be a real assault

[tiny ingot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361375148380524580/1405512847366160404/really.gif

[glacial girder]

Hear me out

I said it before, but I didn't put my works in right

But what if we change her skill class altogether?

Ochaco Uraraka: Zero Satellites [Assault]

Skill Class changed to Support

HP Value changed from:
350 -> 300

Quirk Skill A: Comet Bunt

• Removed ability to use projectile variation of the Quirk Skill
• Decreased Damage at all levels
• Increased lunge distance
• Increased lunge speed

Quirk Skill B: Zero Satellites

• Changed gage system from percentage to number of ammo
• Decreased damage at all levels
• Adjusted to not allow directional input while move is active
• Added a hard knockdown if opponent is hit by the full move
• Decreased reload speed at all levels

Quirk Skill Y: Nebula Runway

• Platform variation of move no longer does damage upon generation. Platform now only does damage if falling.
• Decreased penalty reload speed at all levels
• Adjusted knockdown value

Special Action: Zero Gravity

• No longer reloads until the effect wears off
• Decreased reload speed
• Increases reload speed if Zero Gravity is granted to a teammate

[steel furnace]

Tech even?

[glacial girder]

I was thinking that, too because that is was she was in the beta

But I gave her support due to my definition of a Support

Consistent or pressure damage to keep enemies back and protect teammates

[glad summit]

yall arent ready for the convo that assault ochaco is pretty balanced actually.

its really just her beta thats the current issue

[steel furnace]

I mean I’m also open to new ideas

[glacial girder]

Shush, pookie 🥰

[glad summit]

nothing in her kit needs to change as of right now other than her beta reload speed being longer

her moves are all extremely punishable, and have long windup. shes not very good against competent players

[steel furnace]

Her beta is chill her alpha and gamma tho…

[glad summit]

alpha and gamma arent problems

[steel furnace]

Mhm

[glacial girder]

Dude, there's gamma for both Ochacos is dumb

How is it I still get caught even if I dodge it?

Lingering hitboxes 😐

[glad summit]

and before you complain about the damage on alpha, please recognize its incredibly slow and easy to dodge. i hate the term "just dodge it" but it actually applies to assault ochaco with how telegraphed her moves are

[glad summit]

only rapid

gamma on assault ochaco can be avoided by just side stepping even.

[steel furnace]

I haven’t complained I just stated how I feel

To me her gamma and alpha are issues and her beta is fine. But you feel the opposite and that’s okay

[glad summit]

if you want an actual rework look at mine.

let me find it

[glacial girder]

But for being so tanky, why is she able to spin up to the heavens?

[glad summit]

thats part of my rework

like i said, i dont think betas cooldown or distance traveled is fair, and i want it to be reworked into a more offensive ability to lean into her combos

[steel furnace]

I think she’s a tech in disguise

[glad summit]

if im being honest roles dont matter at all

because like

whats assault about all might or deku

[glacial girder]

Yeah, they need reworks to better align with the Assault role.

[glad summit]

i really dont want them to nerf asschaco because i know theyre gonna gut her

they like rapid way more

[steel furnace]

Less damage

Towards them

[glad summit]

personally they both feel like strikes

assault deku highkey one of the best characters in the game

when he lands those blackwhip combos they can kill you from full

[steel furnace]

Honestly at this moment what’s the point of having different skills just make them all character with no strike, Tech, assault, rapid and support

[glacial girder]

Rapid Ochaco needs knockdown values.

[glad summit]

yes

on like

every move

please

her gamma especially, its the best team combo move in the game next to assault shiggys gammas

[steel furnace]

Just normal characters

[glacial girder]

And I get, she's a sitting duck doing her combos, which kinda explains her 300HP, but at the same time, you have to remember that a lot of Ochaco mains are good at positioning themselves before their combos.

[glad summit]

i like the added bonuses each class gets. but outside of that roles have no point other than making tuning more annoying to do

[glacial girder]

So I think we will all live with Rapid Ochaco going back to 250HP.

[steel furnace]

Agreed keep the cards but not the types

[glad summit]

yeah, she has the best mobility in the game (not counting monoma because he is legal cheats). very unfair for her to be so tanky

special action plus a single alpha sends you so far across the map

its insane

[steel furnace]

Froppy is a pretty close second tbh

[glacial girder]

I can't believe so many people disagree with me here

But Froppy is the most balanced Rapid in this game

Her playstyle is what a Rapid is supposed to be

A HIT N' RUN

[steel furnace]

I love Froppy

If she gets nerfed/buffed I will cry

[glacial girder]

Na, I'll be happy for a buff.

If her other fellow Rapids can be stupid, then she should have at least one broken thing about her.

Alpha has better tracking on airborne opponents.

[steel furnace]

Buffs lead to nerfs

[glossy valve]

lol!!! thanks also

[tiny ingot]

Armoured beta and brawler playstyle

[glad summit]

you know what move id love to have armor for on asschaco

held gamma

[onyx dew]

🤨

[tiny ingot]

I think held alpha would make more sense

[onyx dew]

in exchange for nerfing the hit detection maybe

armored stun move sounds like cancer though

[glad summit]

held alphas has its own set of issues

[tiny ingot]

It's the type of move they give armour to tho

[glad summit]

no i agree

that would be nice too

i just want other fixes for it

you know like

not missing the gamma'd target right in front of me

tracking is so wonky on it

[glad summit]

do you guys find her held gamma to be inconsistent?

[tiny ingot]

Sometimes it heat seeks them then other times it just avoids people

[glad summit]

i rarely actually get to hit targets with it, so im unaware if its actually problematic

usually my combo for unaware targets is tap gamma into held gamma anyways so theyre getting hit regardless

[tiny ingot]

I low-key think held gamma might be one of the hardest things to dodge in the game

[tiny ingot]

But I don't think it's broken either

[glad summit]

fair enough, i just find its very easy to knock her out of.

itll still go off but a lot of the times she cant follow up in time on the target she punished

[tiny ingot]

Yea but I think that's why she's balanced

[glad summit]

fair

[tiny ingot]

Cause you technically both got punished

[glad summit]

yeah fair

trini did you see the amazing fight me and dudz had yesterday

[tiny ingot]

The ochaco mirror?

Yeah that was funny

Whiff whiff whiff

[glad summit]

we both know the character too well LOL

that fight really highlights one of my complaints about her beta tho

it has a lot of end lag, i wish it just had a little less so alpha could connect better as a follow up

[tiny ingot]

Yeah

I hate endlag

I think it's semi okay for now bc the cool down is so short

But when they reduce it, they should reduce endlag too

[glad summit]

it just sucks because against a competent player, beta is typically your best bet to land damage since gamma and alpha tend to be easy to avoid. hopefully at some point they lean into it being a more offensive move rather than this braindead escape tool

even beta is easy to avoid

duch rolled through every beta i aimed at him in customs yesterday. i couldnt hit him once 😭

[tiny ingot]

Hopefully

[glad summit]

[rigid ruin]

Okay rapid ochaco is broken

[onyx dew]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsushenanigans-gif-2126667728572066459

[glass sierra]

Okay now the same question I asked before but for Asschako

[glad summit]

whats your question?

[glass sierra]

#1233262349842911234 message

[glad summit]

well

[glad summit]

@glass sierra

read from here

i gave a lot of good info on the character as well. should help you with the basics

my favorite combo ever

liking this card dupe build tbh, helps a bit since asschaco needs so many levels

[velvet meteor]

:D

maybe one of my best games this season

[glad summit]

nicely done

[velvet meteor]

Ty :)

[glad summit]

ive been struggling to get some good matches this season. assault ochaco feels a bit weaker now

well

actually i think more people just know how to fight her now

shes punishable on a lot of her moves unfortunately.

[velvet meteor]

I think it’s that and the fact her moves have a lot of start up that people are used to now so they punish her more

Plus like people run triple or double reds now a lot more

[glad summit]

lol same thought process

[velvet meteor]

🤝

We shake on it

[glad summit]

great minds think alike!

[velvet meteor]

I haven’t played yellowchako much this season tbf

I always play blue

Very rarely I’ll swap to yellow

But yeah I def see the struggle this season

[glad summit]

blue is so strong right now, theres really no reason to play yellow over her

[velvet meteor]

Mhm

I’ve always been a blue main even when yellow came out she was extremely fun but I stayed maining blue she’s so crazy strong

[glad summit]

still, im striving to become the #1 asschaco main

i wonder if theyll ever nerf blue, or theyre gonna keep giving her buffs each season LOL

[velvet meteor]

o7 I wish u luck in your journey

[velvet meteor]

Shhhh shhh don’t say anything

[glad summit]

ill stay silent just for you legend

[velvet meteor]

Let me at least keep her for this tournament and then they can nerf her (they won’t)

[velvet meteor]

My goat

[glad summit]

also thought id share this here, very situational but neat combo. only works on hp.

[glad summit]

finally a decent game where im not stealing kills for once, me and this random compress was locked in

[glacial girder]

Dude, just playing the zero skill character is automatically a "decent" game.

There's no need to "lock in"

Jusy press stuff and it works. Even if the inputs are coordinated, it's still very little effort to be good with "Assault" Ochaco.

[glad summit]

not in these lobbies. assault ochaco has a much harder time against more high skilled opponents because of how delayed her attacks are, and how long her punish windows are

good players react very easily to her moves. you have to be constantly be catching people off guard. which isnt easy to do unless youre doing a lot of third parties.

[glacial girder]

And guess what?

Her punish windows are impossible to take advantage off because no one wants to EAT DIRT from the unexplainable damage from her.

[glad summit]

not at all.

i get punished heavily if i whiff a move.

and her damage is justified because of how easy it is to react to it. currently her only move that can be hard to avoid is held gamma. but you should know not to be standing on top of an assault ochaco if you see one in your lobby.

beta sometimes too, but she gets stunned out of beta by a large amount of moves.

people are just afraid to play aggressively into her if they think she isnt punishable.

[glacial girder]

I'm speaking in the perspective as a Froppy main

[glad summit]

well, froppy just isnt very good unfortunately. thats less of assault ochaco being good and more of froppy being way too predictable

a majority of the cast wont have issues with froppy.

[glacial girder]

It is impossible to get close to anyone in this meta.

And I will keep saying it that Froppy is the most balanced Rapid in this game.

But she needs buff if it means she can keep honing her playstayle effectively.

[glad summit]

yeah, id probably agree. she does have some team combo potential with beta that might be a little strong, but in terms of 1v1 scenarios she is perfectly fine.

[glacial girder]

You say her beta is a little strong, meanwhile nearly this whole roster has TOD's. 😐

[glad summit]

my buff for froppy would be giving her three alphas and betas off of spawn. theres no reason for her not to have it.

[glad summit]

beta is strong in team combos. thats a different thing than tods from a single character.

im not claiming froppy needs a nerf

[glacial girder]

Also, for her alpha to have better track on terrain.

Not only being the most balanced rapid, but whiffing her Alpha is just punishing her.

Either better Alpha tracking on terrain or make her tounge retract faster, making for an even smaller punish window.

[fading eagle]

I need these recolors 💔

[glad summit]

rest in peace rapid ocha team combos

[solid dust]

They're not gone yet tho, are they?

[west jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/moon-apollo-run-gif-11129993

[glad summit]

its a time to rejoice!

[glad summit]

they will be!

[west jacinth]

a small glimmer of hope,. She still can tod im certain. but at least they bent the knee

[solid dust]

When?

[exotic skiff]

Same this costume is so cute

[nocturne dagger]

Good.

[fading eagle]

I don't think I'll tune the new Ochako skin, but I will max out her Aura.

[calm grotto]

Is causal wear good for tunning?

[honest mason]

Can someone post about the easier knockdown nerf?

Zodiac wire being part of this nerf is odd…

But again all 3 shots did melt at level 9

[cinder halo]

right now

[steady dune]

What’s the best ochaco tuning skin?

I just got zero satellites

[glad summit]

casual wear

[glad summit]

yes!

[calm grotto]

Any certain style?

Like villian heat ect?

[glad summit]

default is the best, has the most damage tunings and gives you access to wall runner and fixer/highspeedreplenishment

[deep dust]

Better ask what SP tunings are the best

[steady dune]

Second best…

[calm grotto]

Works on both rapid and assault am assuming?

[deep dust]

And I think Wall Runner is mandatory on Assault Ochako

She lacks verticality imo

[glad summit]

100% i cant live without it now

[calm grotto]

Right thanks yall

[deep dust]

I'm rocking wall runner and the Tamaki thingy to try it out, it's not too bad honestly

[glad summit]

what do you have?

[deep dust]

Anything with wallrunner most likely

[glad summit]

thats pretty good too.

[steady dune]

Kpop, kuoichi, the ranked one, yukata etc

[deep dust]

Red has a lot of decent options

[onyx dew]

for those wondering

[glad summit]

kuoichi has a purple and blue slot build.

[glad summit]

its what i use since i dont have casual wear

kms

[onyx dew]

she didn't really lose much, just can't hyper extend on Most combos anymore

[onyx dew]

casual wear default if not that then old uniform fancy

[glad summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-gif-4408076016540863651

its a step in the right direction for the nerf but she needs more knockdown

anyways if any new owners of assault ochaco have questions on her let me know. im in the process of making a very extensive guide for her, so id be more than willing to help

[tiny ingot]

Whatchu think of the new costume tuning

[glad summit]

havent gotten on to roll yet so havent taken a good look

[sonic herald]

I am said new owner, whats your leveling path and if you are picky about it what assist cards do you use?

[glad summit]

but villain style has a good fixer build from what i remember looking ar leaks

[sonic herald]

I think I might use rapid cards on her cause I can't handle that beta

[tiny ingot]

Base fit has double red with red villain so I was think it cld be funny to go manifest revenge strike and use triple strike cards 😭

[glad summit]

two level up paths i have are alpha 4 gamma 4 beta 4 alpha 7 gamma 7 beta 7 and then level 9 for whatever you want.

or alpha 4, gamma 7, beta 7, alpha 7, level 9 for whatever you want.

assault ochaco gets her max size for all of her moves at level 7, so you dont have to worry about maxxing out a move right away and can stop at 7 to focus on other abilities.

also rapid cards are great if you dont have a wall runner build. otherwise i typically use reload cards so my beta comes back instantly when i use it lmao.

[cinder halo]

that's it ???

[glad summit]

i never find myself enjoying revenge strike tbh, but maybe

im just excited to wear the new skin, its really cute

[sonic herald]

I only use revenge strike if I can use gp sucker

[cinder halo]

disappointing nerf

[tiny ingot]

I never ran it before

[glad summit]

well think about it paired with team abilties now, it will weaken some team combos with her. she definitely needs more knockdown yet, but it is a start.

it does help that every beamer got hit with knockdown as well

[cinder halo]

i was expecting a nerf to her specifically, bcs she doesn't really need a team to be deadly

[glad summit]

i agree

[cinder halo]

that's a good start

now we just need to hope for more

[glad summit]

im surprised assault ochaco went untouched

i thought for sure her beta would finally get a cooldown nerf

as thats her only really problematic thing right now

[cinder halo]

i've been playing her since the Beta of the game

i remember when I was struggling with her grapple when it was really bad

now it seems like I'm fighting against what I was wishing in the past

from lowest win rate in the entire game to absolute menace

[tiny ingot]

Careful what you wish for~

[cinder halo]

tbf I wasn't expecting her to be this gamebreaking 💀

i despise a lot the type of characters that can destroy you because they won 1 interaction

bcs everyone is gonna say "don't get hit"

[glad summit]

heh

[cinder halo]

like I'm not playing Elden Ring

big risk big reward is so cool imo

but she's not that at all

worst part is : she doesn't really need to use Gamma to destroy you

If you're too focus about it, you're still gonna die

[solid dust]

Where do you see that?

[cinder halo]

#update-announcements

[solid dust]

Thx

[cinder halo]

np

[solid dust]

No monoma nerfs...

[thin monolith]

the fact that they nerfed momo before monoma yet again is crazy

(the tiny canon bullets now have knock down power...)

[steady dune]

Why is it always the skins I don’t have T-T

Actually, a better question to ask is what tuning is good on her

I’ll just go from there

[onyx dew]

card dupe fixer is what i run

[honest mason]

Oh wow,this looks like barely anything changed lol

[glad summit]

for which ochaco

[steady dune]

Both

[steady dune]

I suck at killing for card dupe

https://tenor.com/view/ochaco-uraraka-ochaco-my-hero-academia-mha-boku-no-hero-academia-gif-6392393764323236833

And fixer is VERY tuning reliant

[glad summit]

for asschaco

casual wear clears both of these

but i dont have it

[steady dune]

Wall runner on ochaco?

I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m just confused on why

[onyx dew]

on assault ochaco it’s valid

rapid not so much

[umbral hedge]

Can I get that guide on ochaco need to get better at her assault qss

[glad summit]

still working on it yet, but hold on

[glad summit]

@umbral hedge

read from here

theres some basic info

for level up paths, combos and some tips

[dusky silo]

I am finally once again one of you rats

I just like to call ocha rats jokingly I don't actually think any of you players as one

Anyway what's a good level route for yellow ocha?

[glad summit]

@dusky silo

man i sound so awkward when doing these recordings for the guide

i need to be less stuttery

[dusky silo]

Your guide is fine. Thanks for the tips 🙏

[glad summit]

nah unrelated to these messages

im doing an actual video

i need to work on being more concise.

[dusky silo]

Ah

Good luck

[velvet meteor]

nerf rly didnt do anything

[glad summit]

many such cases

[velvet meteor]

the down power change is interesting it like does come into effect rarely

like i had a kill on a mirio but he got iframes bc of the downpower changes

but blue ocha is completely fine

[glad summit]

i personally think for most of the beamers, and ochacos alpha, they shouldve gone for 75-100 knockdown

50 is still a little too low

[velvet meteor]

maybe

[nocturne dagger]

Still a broken braindead character good to know

[velvet meteor]

idk what to tell u sorry ig

the game itself is easy so idk what to say

[glad summit]

this is true

[velvet meteor]

like lowkey alot of the characters are braindead

[glad summit]

i find there is really no skill expression in a lot of characters

[velvet meteor]

it's just how the game is

[velvet meteor]

yeah this ^

[nocturne dagger]

No im just disappointed with the nerf😭

Mmm we have a character that has a extremely easy access to tods

Let's make it look like we did something

[glad summit]

its still a good change

it reduces her strength in team combos

team combos across the board are weaker now

[nocturne dagger]

I suppose so

[glad summit]

not bad

slight critique

if you know your opponent is going to guard break after you stun them with gamma, go for a tap alpha

tap alpha can be used 2x on hp targets

gives way more damage

[dusky silo]

Ok thanks

I barely know how to use assault ocha so I've gotten some practice with her today

[glad summit]

enjoying her so far?

[dusky silo]

Surprisingly yea

I only unlocked her today

[glad summit]

shes so fun, i love her combos very much

[dusky silo]

I'm still trying to get the hang of that

[glad summit]

my personal favorite is full beta into 180° turn charged alpha. very simple and does great damage

amazing against aerial targets

[dusky silo]

I did that it was amazing to pull off

Unfortunately I use beta to escape majority of the time lol

[glad summit]

now do this @dusky silo

[dusky silo]

Ok I'll try

[glad summit]

also yes, this is smart. a lot of her tod's usually involve beta, but i really dislike taking away her only movement option for a combo.

the one i posted is typically better for sneak attack tod's and allows you to get out quickly afterwards

[dusky silo]

Yea I figured that that's usually the best way to play assault ocha but it's kinda hard to do especially while solo q

[glad summit]

air team combo of doom

[velvet meteor]

i love playing with frog it's so fun

[glad summit]

my favorite thing on assault ocha is to bait people into small rooms and proceed to wake up catch them no matter what they do

rapid ocha vs assault ocha is a pretty hard fight outdoors, but indoors its pretty funny when you get to pull this off.

[glad summit]

i rarely encounter her good players. but she has great team combo potential if they know what theyre doing.

[dusky silo]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[velvet meteor]

nice little combo

[glad summit]

you can use held gamma to block off doorways btw

[dusky silo]

Oh yes I've done that because I saw someone else do it

[glad summit]

yes its very strong

also held gamma goes through thin walls

can lead to some funny moments for stopping a heal or revive

[nocturne dagger]

I hate Ochaco sm😭

[velvet meteor]

My fault 😔

[nocturne dagger]

Everything y’all do just looks so…safe? Iyk what I’m trying to say

But then I throw a hawks beta and he decides the floor is yummy

[velvet meteor]

Wdym by safe?

Like when I’m comboing someone?

[nocturne dagger]

No one ever seems to try fight back against y’all and you get away with so much

Like you can be really greedy with her and it just works out

[glad summit]

vika is just capitalizing off of misplays from enemies

[velvet meteor]

Okay this is just not true I’m sorry

You absolutely have people fight back. You need to fight her as a team

[glad summit]

if an ocha tries that combo in front of a full team that is competent she is getting nuked

[velvet meteor]

When she casts float she’s extremely vulnerable as she quite literally is immobile in the air

If you beam her there or begin anything that stuns her she loses her dmg

She can’t float combo and if positioned wrong can die

[nocturne dagger]

I’d like to remind you this is mhur

If ur not 3 stacking your team isn’t competent enough to do that

[glad summit]

why willingly solo queue then

[nocturne dagger]

So it might just be my experience as a solo q

[nocturne dagger]

Because I don’t have friends?😭

[velvet meteor]

What characters do u play?

[nocturne dagger]

Hawks and red shig

[glad summit]

you dont need friends, theres plenty of people looking for teammates still.

[velvet meteor]

Okay that explains a lot 😭

Yeah your characters do not have good MUs into her

[nocturne dagger]

Yes suffering at its peak :D (save me please)

[velvet meteor]

So it’s def gonna be bad

But saying everything is safe is just kinda ignorant yk. Like she absolutely gets punished and has bad MUs

Shinso can alpha her before any of her moves can’t hit him after a get up

[nocturne dagger]

There’s a bug I think with hawks where his hitbox is HUGE while flying because I’ve been hit by cars not even looking at me

[nocturne dagger]

That’s shinso bro

[velvet meteor]

Yeah

[nocturne dagger]

That’s EVERYONE against shinso

[velvet meteor]

Im giving u an example

[nocturne dagger]

Fair

[velvet meteor]

Bakugo can beam her from full if she is floating someone else

It’s just an example of the fact she is vulnerable at points

Im not trying to like beef with you ofc I’m just explaining

[nocturne dagger]

Yeye no worries

She just looks so much better compared to any rapid rn it’s kinda sad

Ik iida counters her

[velvet meteor]

Yeah she’s extremely strong def not downplaying that

S tier character no doubt

[nocturne dagger]

Speaking off god the match up of hawks and iida is ridiculous

[velvet meteor]

But like not free

[nocturne dagger]

Yea not assault endy monoma tier

[velvet meteor]

She’s better than endeavor imo

But not monoma ofc

Character is a problem LOL

[nocturne dagger]

Hawks alphas? Iida does beta
Hawks betas? Iida does alpha wins trade
Hawks gamma? Iida betas

[glad summit]

people dont talk enough about how broken monomas base kit is

[nocturne dagger]

Hawks runs? Iida outruns

[glad summit]

his gamma and beta are insanely strong

[nocturne dagger]

THAT DOUBLE BETA IS NASTYYY

[velvet meteor]

Hawks is just super overnerfed

[glad summit]

his beta only does 100 knockdown and 120 damage

insane combo tool

[velvet meteor]

Bro got his wings clipped

[velvet meteor]

And fr

[nocturne dagger]

Hot take if iida beta should have hyperarmor so should the startup of hawks beta

[velvet meteor]

Neither should have armor

They can trade for sure

But like armor on rapids is def a bad idea

Iida included

[glad summit]

i dislike armor in general

[nocturne dagger]

Only acception is am alpha imo

[glad summit]

especially on a certain rock throwing strike character right now

[velvet meteor]

That’s fair

Also I think if u think ocha is broken u should play her

Imo

[nocturne dagger]

It’s just dumb the fact a hawks BETA his getaway took his finisher is out done by a single iida alpha that has a tiny cooldown and it uses up hawk’s entire beta

[velvet meteor]

Like if she’s super broken the devs will see her play rate go crazy

And her win rate

[nocturne dagger]

I have a few times and I found her pretty easy

[velvet meteor]

Have u played her in Ace lobbies?

[glad summit]

i think the issue is too many people play her since shes so popular, and alot of bad players tank her win rate lol.

[nocturne dagger]

Yes?

[velvet meteor]

Ok Im just asking

[velvet meteor]

And yeah for sure this is true

Doesn’t help she’s a free character so all the baby players will play her

[sinful cedar]

so happppyyyy

[velvet meteor]

I just think calling her easy is kinda meh bc like the whole cast is easy yk

Like no character in the game is hard

[velvet meteor]

Lets goooo W

But like you do you yk o7

[nocturne dagger]

Yea but I mean like the fact someone who’s pretty much never played her can pick her up for a game then Tod someone which certain people on tt call skillful and difficult with this much ease genuinely says something IMO

She’s nothing compared to monoma brain dead atleast she needs gamesense I’ll give it that

[velvet meteor]

I mean like I said game is not hard

[glad summit]

same luck today lol!

[nocturne dagger]

Only way it’s hard is because of balance 😭

[sinful cedar]

thats so luckyyy whatttt 😭

i spent 800 tickets and 24k crystals just for the two

💔

[glad summit]

i had to roll 700, got this on my last roll

[velvet meteor]

I got her summer one on my second roll today idk how I got so lucky

[glad summit]

0 tickets to my name now

[velvet meteor]

I don’t have the other costume

But it’s Alr I don’t rly need it

[sinful cedar]

same i feel poor

[glad summit]

i actually got quipao as well, which looks like it has a good wall runner fixer build. assault ochaco stonks are up

[velvet meteor]

I feel for you guys I was so poor after assault Ochako cuz I wanted to roll her

Im saving for Mirio bc the tuning will be like almost for sure needed for the tournament

Everyone is going to run that

[glad summit]

dawg im not ready

all my combos

[velvet meteor]

It’s cooked

[glad summit]

worthless

[velvet meteor]

It’s gonna be cooked

Im scared of that man

He’s going to permeate thru my pc screen bro

[sinful cedar]

for me i just like collecting for my favs

[velvet meteor]

Im scared

[velvet meteor]

Ur based for this 💪

[glad summit]

did you see what you can do with electrification and tech mirio tuning?

[sinful cedar]

I SAW A VID

im scared for once it releases

[glad summit]

its horrorifying

this game is about to have its worst tuning meta

[velvet meteor]

No

[glad summit]

didnt think they could top sisterly

[glad summit]

can i dm you then a totally unrelated thing wink

[velvet meteor]

Sure

[sullen basalt]

I want her beach leisure skin so bad but I have to grind the rest of the license and that only gives me 2 more 10 pulls

Praying I get lucky and pull her new skin in those 2 10 pulls

[glad summit]

im manifesting it for you

the burger bara blesses you

[sullen basalt]

Thank you burger bara

[dusky silo]

Can you stall assault ocha gamma effect on opponents by tapping it twice or does it have to be on held and one tap in any order?

[glad summit]

you can hit tap twice

but its really inconsistent

[dusky silo]

I tried that in training and I didn't see the effect last any longer than one use of gamma

[glad summit]

i dont recommend going for it

[dusky silo]

Yea I won't

[glad summit]

its useful in like one combo which is just a worse combo now anyways after her nerfs

your best way to combo off a single tap gamma if you arent right on top of them is to do

have special action active beforehand, tap gamma, jump, beta, held alpha

tap alpha works too but you cant do two of them since itll knock them down

[dusky silo]

Ah ok

Thanks for the tip

Is there a reason why you need special action before jumping beta into alpha?

[glad summit]

beta wont properly reach

[dusky silo]

Ah

Didn't know that

[glad summit]

also helps line up with alpha

[dusky silo]

Ok

[worn whale]

Fake idol fan

Smh

[glad summit]

i actually just confirmed, for single gamma youll be fine to do it without special action

[dusky silo]

Ok thanks for confirming

[glad summit]

and you can double alpha, but you need to cancel the beta early. not super hard to do

[dusky silo]

Didn't know that, neat

[glad summit]

@dusky silo i recorded a few of her advanced combos for you.

i apologize for the confusion before. these combos here are the only ones that need special action

[dusky silo]

Oh snap thanks! Definitely going to practice these much appreciated 🙏

And no worries

[glad summit]

figured i share here as well, this is a build im gonna work on. good wall runner and alpha fixer build for assault ochaco

for my non casual wear owners

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gif-6367919497800974711

right side will be assault endeavor, overhaul, strike bakugo, strike dabi and obviously assault shiggy once i have the tuning materials

should chunk out some good damage

[dusky silo]

I love wall runner

[steady dune]

What are some asschaco combos?

[glad summit]

basic ones are tap gamma into held alpha (tap alpha also works, and you can do a second tap alpha if they guard break), beta into held alpha, tap gamma into beta into held or tap alpha.

[glad summit]

here are a few more advanced ones

[steady dune]

Is the last one even still possible?

Because I can’t seem to hit the second gamma line

Unless I’m like stupidly close

Never mind it’s just very finicky

Ty ty!

[glad summit]

you dont need to do double gamma

[steady dune]

I don’t need to, but it’s saucy

[glad summit]

granted it wont full kill

[steady dune]

And it hurts

[glad summit]

also

interesting thing

i found you dont even need to actually hit the second gamma

the damage it does when falling is enough in the combo to kill targets with 300 hp

beacause youre hitting gamma, full beta, two falling gammas, and a held alpha

that hurts a lot!

they do have time to tech out if youre not quick enough so just keep that in mind

[steady dune]

If it hits,

sometimes you have to do your combos just right or the Gamma lines won’t be able to hit them

[glad summit]

also use speed cards on her, makes the attack way easier to land

[glad summit]

gets easier with more playtime

ive already perfected that with her held gamma tods

so its lightwork on these

[steady dune]

For now, I’ll probably stick to gamma line + alpha maybe I’ll throw in a beta sometimes but just learning the fundamentals. I need to get down first.

Actually, important question

When should I use sa?

[sullen basalt]

I think it was said earlier, but I use sa to have the beta fly farther and stuff

So i always use it right before I plan to use beta

[glad summit]

no no

special action doesnt affect betas distance or anything like that

the reason why you use it in some combos is because you need to do a special action jump so the beta actually hits your target when they get floated

because sometimes it will miss if you dont, just helps the combo stay consistent

[glad summit]

other than what i just said here, i use it paired with wall runner to do smooth movement

they go great together

i dont find much usage for it otherwise on assault ochacos kit so i usually give it to my teammates so they can do some funny stuff

[sullen basalt]

Oh whoops I remembered wrong, mb

[steady dune]

Okay some thoughts

HOW IN THE EVER FLYING DUCK DO I CONTROL HER BETA?

Also gamma lines are hard to hit and get cucked by geometry

[glad summit]

forward movement input goes up

backwards movement input goes down

lel

they need to buff mirios hp so bad man

[dire shadow]

Almost 500 hp combo

[glad summit]

this is one of her weaker ones believe it or not

with the right build, you can do 650 damage combos

those are pretty situational tho, as you have to be literally right on top of the enemy

[dire shadow]

Yeah i remember you posted a clip of that, still scary tho imagine minding your own business just to suddenly end up in heaven

[dusky silo]

Noted

[glacial girder]

SOME of you Ochaco mains refuse to admit that your character needs nerfs.

Yes, her combos, take a bit of practice, but they shouldn't insta-kill. It's a COMBO, not a death sentence.

[glad summit]

i think assault ochaco needs some nerfs, but a lot of people want the wrong stuff on her nerfed

[sullen basalt]

^ I agree assault ochaco needs nerfs, I just don't know how yet

[glad summit]

beta cooldown increased, held gamma increased knockdown power and potentially held alpha reduced by 10-15 damage

should eliminate her tods but still keep her as a fun character

||some of yall may hate this too but her beta should get some armor on it, since its her only movement tool and super easy to stun her out of||

[sullen basalt]

No that I agree with-

Like I agree the beta needs a cooldown but I hate how easy it is that I get knocked out of my beta when i'm trying to run

[glacial girder]

Also an HP nerf

I don't care if she's Assault

Her B and Special Action basically leave her in the air. And not to mention that it also gives her a ton of potential to chase down people, too.

You don't have high HP just so you can't get touched. 😑

If you have high HP, I'm assuming three things

• You're lacking in mobility and need the bulk to survive in one area of forced to

• You are the aggressive player and will be tanking a lot of damage

• Your playstyle of close combat heavy, and you need the survivability in case you're trying to close quarters with an opponent

Never once will I assume that you have high HP because you have HIGH MOBILITY and stay in the air for so long.

If you can do so much damage without even needing to get close to an opponent, then you should not be having so much HP.

[glad summit]

eh

maybe

id have to see how she feels after the beta nerf

because if beta gets nerfed properly she will be on the ground a bit more. shes not super good in the air unless youre just alpha spamming which is inefficient anyways

[onyx dew]

i think assault ochaco is lowkey fine rn

rapid ochaco is the one that needs to get toned down

[glad summit]

a lot of people do think she is overtuned, but thats because she profits off of unaware targets

and a lotttt of people in this game have bad awareness

i struggle very hard in actual 1v1s when the enemy knows im there, you really have to get the drop on someone or theyll just roll all your moves since theyre so predictable.

[sullen basalt]

^

[dire shadow]

Assault ochaco is so overtuned im in her channel complaining to her players how overtuned she is

[glacial girder]

And like I said, there are some people here defending her bs playstyle.

My point proven

SOME of you Ochaco mains refuse to admit that she needs nerfs.

And goes for BOTH versions.

[glad summit]

id like to hear whats her bs playstyle for her assault version

the only real problematic things in my experience is her beta cd and the low knockdown value on her gammas.

[glacial girder]

Not just Beta

Getting caught in her gamma (both versions) is literal pain.

That's just guaranteed guardbreak for her for so little effort.

And you can't do anything about it

[glad summit]

you can

[glacial girder]

"Skill issue" yet the activation of the move has a lingering hitbox, so even if you dodge it, half the time, you'll still be caught.

[glad summit]

i hate the excuse "just dodge it" but all of assault ochacos moves are so delayed, theres not really an excuse to not be able to properly dodge the attacks.

its only an issue on rapid's because of how inconsistent the gamma is.

[glacial girder]

You can't spam your iframes out of an Ochaco combo.

You only go up, and get no iframes even if she takes too long to finish the combo.

So now you're slowly falling in the air like an idiot.

Open to literally anyone else.

The silence. Like I said, still not willing to admit that she needs nerfs.

[glad summit]

theres not really anything to say when you shouldnt be getting hit in the first place

the only time its happening if she third parties

or she catches you unaware

i fight good players a lot, my gamma never lands unless i catch them off guard.

[tiny ingot]

I don't see why you complain about assault ochaco so much when rapid exists dodging asschaco's tap gamma is just as easy as all nights beta and they do the same thing of putting you in the air, that's what happens when you get hit. You get punished

[glad summit]

assault ochaco is up there for being one of the worse 1v1 characters just because of how telegraphed all her moves are

[tiny ingot]

And then her held gamma literally requires you to be directly on the person allowing if not a roll, a window to trade hits

[glad summit]

most of the time i catch someone with held gamma i get knocked out of it so i cant even follow up lol

just have to watch them float up to safety on my platform

[tiny ingot]

That's the valid reaction if someone feels unconfident in rolling the hit

[glacial girder]

I said both Ochaco's earlier. I'm hating both Ochaco's.

[glad summit]

rapid is significantly stronger than assault in every capacity

[glacial girder]

But either way, I'm not saying kill the character. Just make it so her combos and/or damage aren't just completely free for so little effort.

[glad summit]

the only thing assault does better is damage per move, but rapid does wayyyyy better damage per second because of the low knockdown and fast attack speed

[tiny ingot]

How would they do that?
I would just significantly increase the down power on rapidchacos abilities and reduce asschacos beta cool down, I don't see how they can rework her stun

You can't stop them from being floated, this is ochaco after all

[glad summit]

i did suggest higher knockdown value for assault ochacos gammas. which i think is fair since it would help remove tod's. i dont think any character should be able to tod unless its a team combo