#1000hz controllers on xbox

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neon sun
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I was woundering if 1000hz controllers actually work on xbox and if so which ones work

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burnt aurora
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If plug in the controller via USB, you'll get a faster update rate than via wireless if that's really important to you, and that happens with the official controllers.

neon sun
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Since some office controllers do say 1ms but usually the tests are shown on pc only so it's hard to tell if that's gonna relay onto xbox as well.

burnt aurora
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On console, all wired controllers use the exact same driver, they're all going to have the same polling rate on the console side. I've never heard of 1000 Hz controllers for Xbox consoles

neon sun
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I do know the that 250hz is the standard for wired and I do know that "Victrix Gambit" does 500hz for wired hence why it's regarded as the fastest Xbox controller. Just keep seeing a fee say they have 1ms response time which would mean they have a polling rate of 1000hz just unsure on the claims and don't have the money or time to buy controllers to test them just to see if they do. Plus ima probably need a nice high refresh rate camera to count the frames with the input delay to see if the claims are true 😅

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A big pain

burnt aurora
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I fail to see why you need that level of precision though. You're likely going to have more latency introduced from your display output than the controller or from just the in-game rendering pipeline

neon sun
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Meh just more advantages it's the same reason people buy a 120hz monitor or TV. Just a better advantage lol even if I can't see the difference I'll feel it.

burnt aurora
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  1. You really won't feel the difference
  2. 1000 Hz doesn't mean it's a 1ms delay, FYI, that's just how often the USB communication is happening between the controller and the PC in the case of some of these controllers. That tells you nothing about how long it takes the microprocessor to detect a button press and account for things like debounce, stabilize the signal, etc, so that it's ready to be read on the next packet read from the host PC. If they're using a bad microprocessor, that button reading may be 15-20ms, so you may be paying a premium for what you think is a 1ms response rate controller but is really more like 21ms response rate.
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There's a LOT that goes into the entire pipeline from when you start to press the button down until it gets into the game reading it, to rendering the screen and displaying so you can see it. Trust me, I spent weeks going over this with some of my other engineers about 6 years back, analyzing the entire pipeline 🙂

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1000 Hz / 1 ms refresh rate is a marketing term deliberately meant to sell you on looking like a premium product, but that doesn't mean it actually is all the way through and through, there can be lots of other parts that may not be accounted for and handled.

neon sun
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I mean I would link you a linux tech tips video. But I don't remember which one it is. Yes frame rate is nice. If you never seen the difference yourself from 60 to 120 it's unreal. Yes from there on it don't matter much none the less for controllers it's the input delay itself so real time inputs either or I don't fight with you about it. We can move on from this conversation with you're not sure about the hz of controllers on xbox.

burnt aurora
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No controller is going to be faster wired than the standard Xbox controller, I know that much. I'm avoiding diving into specific numbers because there's a lot that we haven't publicly disclosed, so I can't say things about it because it's covered under NDA.

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I'm aware of the difference between 60 FPS and 120 FPS with rendering. I'm telling you, in a controller, going from the 250Hz to 1000Hz, you aren't going to see any difference, nor feel a difference.

neon sun
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I mean considering I already talked about one that has a 2 to 3m compared to the 5ms for normal wired xbox controllers that your option Is already debunked 😅 sorry ig

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Awkward anyways. Good talk

burnt aurora
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I'm going to go with my inside knowledge and not someone quoting Linus Tech Tips who is just some YouTube celebrity, thanks 😉

neon sun
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Lol some youtuber celebrity that broke down the frames and the different with a high frame slow mo camera ?

burnt aurora
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His testing methodologies are flawed. Gamers Nexus does proper testing.

neon sun
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😅 awkward video evidence is pretty hard to fight against. Slay tho. I enjoy seeing someone stand on buiness even when they are wrong. Slay ngl

burnt aurora
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I've watched enough LTT "testing" videos myself to see the flaws in his methods

neon sun
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Again the one method I said ain't flawed

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But go off

burnt aurora
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especially compared to proper engineers who spend their entire careers and degrees doing this

neon sun
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Be wrong and slay at the same time