And that’s my PCs
#pc-gaming
fleet mason
Not when you're trying to watch a 4K HDR movie/show!
I hate when it starts to buffer!
full flint
Should I build my own PC or get a prebuilt
quaint nimbus
own PC
sacred iron
Lol
full flint
build it
quaint nimbus
yeh
patent jasper
@frail dove is pc worth it?
frail dove
them smooth frames are always worth it
surreal moss
Tiger lake flagship chip leaked with 3ghz base and 4.8ghz boost
That’s gonna be a zippy friggin laptop
last ridge
that's the best meme I've seen all month in relation to the RTX 3 series @surreal moss
I'm team AMD with a RTX 580 but respeccc 🙂
full flint
last ridge
😆
What about Big Navi though
I like how we're figuring out a lot about AMD's next gen only through Series X and the other platform
last ridge
as 👑 . Rightfully so
I do think one of them has a trick up their sleeves though. It's going to get interesting this year, finally.
Also Intel dedicated Graphics (Xe)
full flint
Ray Tracing and DLSS was interesting tho
last ridge
All means a win for us as consumers. Minus the 2000 dollar speculation
DLSS is really great for a minimal hit. I like tech like that
What I'm really interested in seeing is the improvements in adoption of ARM architecture
thaaaats really going to be a game changer
autumn sluice
if amd drops a card that can compete with the 3080 base at a cheaper price, theyll get big money because ppl are still down from covid
full flint
yes, but if they don't have anything to compete with a 3090 or the eventual Ti models
that'll set them back
and NVIDIA will secure its position (as always)
if the 3080 is 900-1000, I'd expect AMD's offerring to be 700-800
since it's looking like both are going to use 7nm (maybe +, maybe e)
or NVIDIA might be using Samsung's newest 7nm
instead of TSMC
hushed rampart
how do you create a desctop icon from the xbox game pass store?
full flint
Right click on the icon and click “create desktop icon”
hushed rampart
on what icon ? @full flint
full flint
the installed game
hushed rampart
i want that the xbox app as desctop icon
full flint
just click and drag from the start menu
foggy vigil
hushed rampart
when i searched it in windows then didnt work but needed to scrol down , thanks
foggy vigil
I did the same thing too 😉
hushed rampart
@foggy vigil 😄 finally
foggy vigil
@hushed rampart Please change your name to abide by rule #4 please 🙂
hushed rampart
sad
foggy vigil
Sorry, and thank you 🙂
young abyss
can any1 help me please
surreal moss
No
autumn sluice
im gonna laugh if they just tease the 30 series today
devout remnant
Well, ASUS just went and announced theirs about an hour ago!
I’m sure Nvidia will do a full reveal 👀
Find out in 29 mins!
autumn sluice
new geforce driver in september is reducing latency on geforce cards
fleet mason
Nvidia just pooped on next gen consoles.
$1499 3090, $699 3080, $499 3070
Is there a 3090ti?
The $499 3070 is faster than a 2080ti.
devout remnant
3090 needs two hands to handle that beast!
fleet mason
And the $699 3080 is twice as fast as a 2080
I'm looking at that $699 3080 as my next card. The 3090 is just overkill. 😆
8k gaming. Lol
smoky flame
I've had a change of heart and going for the 3090
smoky flame
no such thing as future proofing with hardware but yeah. With the specs of the 3090 I'd sure like to think it could last some time. Maybe more than one GPU generation?
Buy 3090, skip RTX 40, buy RTX 50 flagship
smoky flame
only thing I'm concerned about now is what CPU do I upgrade to that will even be ready to throw down with that 3090
full flint
EPYC I think newest gen processors would feed this beast
Best part is GPU IO thing imo
Finally a proper usage for SSD's lol
devout remnant
I can’t waitttttt for 3090
full flint
"BFGPU" LOL, nVidia definitely knows what we gamers want
"Pascal users, it is safe to upgrade now" good reference to RT performance loss controversy
smoky flame
Think I will wait for Zen 3 and see how the 16 core successor to the 3950X is looking. Create a monster of a PC that should be as future proof as it can be with PC hardware - Try and get as much time out off it as possible. Both in the CPU and GPU departments. Definitely going with at least 32GB ram too. Oh and a gen 4 NVME SSD. Going all out and I ain't backing down now!
full flint
I mean people still use ancient 6 core Xeons
full flint
cries in X299
waxen axle
😮 😮 😮
full flint
Why you're shocked lol
waxen axle
I'm just amazed at this news about all this power and more affordable prices. Good thing I didn't buy a 2080TI PC and waited for these new cards. Haha
I'll still get a Series X and get a PC built with either a 3070 or 3080 for 1440P gaming.
smoky flame
yeah, it is crazy. This is why I love PC gaming. Announcements like these really get the hype train going 😄
waxen axle
Awesome that it s cheaper, faster, cooler and quieter 😁
full flint
Lol people are still worrying about resolutions when DLSS is a thing
waxen axle
Will these fit mid sized tower cases? Or will we need full sized towers?
smoky flame
should fit. Wait to see how they look, their dimensions etc though. Just to be sure
full flint
Full sized obviously lol it's not "BFGPU" for nothing
waxen axle
I'm still gaming off a Gaming Laptop. Can't wait to get a Gaming PC haha. Hate hearing the fans when I game.
autumn sluice
bro 3070 is gonna be like 650 cdn
so glad i only bought the 1650 super
rip my tax return
waxen axle
Hope these cards have some RGB. More Rgb = More FPS 😂
autumn sluice
it gonna be cheaper to order from nvidia or one opf the 3rd parties?
waxen axle
Just wait for a sale I guess. I have a buddy that works at like Memory Express so he can get me discounts off all the parts.
Hope they give a good free game with these cards
smoky flame
all that performance not enough?
waxen axle
They usually give pretty new games with their graphics cards but I think previous month they were giving Rainbow Six Siege which is pretty old haha
Any Full sized PC Case recommendations? I like tempered glass. Thanks 😀
sterile tulip
anyone on pc to play halo
smoky flame
I don't think we'll need full tower PC cases. 3090 is to be triple slot. That is big but should still fit inside a mid tower
I'm expecting it to be about as big as my 5700 XT Red Devil. That's a triple fan GPU and triple slot so I know roughly what to expect with this 3090, at least with its size. Power is a whole different game
full flint
Anyone wanna play Fall guys
waxen axle
@smoky flame Okay Thanks. I would prefer a mid tower anyways if possible haha
surreal moss
Yeah I mean you’re gonna choke it in a mid tower but sure it’ll fit
obsidian bobcatBOT
fleet mason
4k is so last gen. It's all about 8k.
waxen axle
smoky flame
crazy thing is would the drivers even be fully optimised for these GPUs yet? There could be a little extra performance to come. Not least with some of the new features Nvidia announced earlier in the show
will be interesting to see come September 17 (?) onwards how well these GPUs really perform when in the hands of users and with supported drivers stacked on top
When I get my 3090 if I'm not pushing way past 120 FPS in The Division 2 at maxed settings 1440p I'll be disappointed. Though I'm pretty sure I should race past that with ease
fleet mason
1440p 120fps isn't even a question.
coarse pond
I'mma wait for the aftermarket cards, i'll buy the rog strix 3080 day one when it releases
surreal moss
Lul
coarse pond
I mean i'm still on a 1050ti, been holding off on upgrading
surreal moss
I think I’m going oem for the first time ever
full flint
2080Ti userbase complaining about how 3070 killed it's selling value lol
coarse pond
I've never built a pc so that's what i've been planning on doing all year
surreal moss
I bought the 2080ti fully understanding that I will be losing more money the better the 3000 series is
Not my fault everyone else didn’t understand this and impulse bought
full flint
Same lol
smoky flame
I'm glad I never went for the 2080 Ti. Was toying with the idea a couple times a month or so back
surreal moss
The 2080ti was great to have. I’m going to have to look at 3080 vs 3090 benchmarks
All I truly care about is the FPS difference
And the card is over double the price of the 3080
smoky flame
same but I think I have my eyes pretty well set on the 3090 tbh
surreal moss
Same, however the 3080 surprised me
I might save $800 and reinvest it into the rest of my system
I need a new CPU anyway
smoky flame
thought you had a 3900X?
coarse pond
i'm not gonna go all out, i'm leaning more on just maximizing 1440p performance with raytracing
full flint
1080p anyone?
smoky flame
3080 sounds a solid choice. Tiers above the 1050 TI you are currently used to, Wulf
1080p in 2020?
full flint
I mean lol I really don't see reason to increase the resolution. Maybe I'm blind but I went to a internet cafe that had top tier 2K and 4K monitors with 2080ti for testing and tbh didn't see too much difference
smoky flame
360Hz monitors might be the only thing anyone with a 3070 or 3080 would want at 1080p. Otherwise 1440p and 4K is the way to go
coarse pond
well i mean if you're just focused on 1080p you really don't even need a 30 series card unless you're like reallly into competitive shooters where every little frame matters
otherwise you won't even notice a difference in most games, 240hz vs 360hz
full flint
Curved monitors were legendary tho
smoky flame
I can't wait to see how a 3090 reacts to a 1440p 240Hz monitor. Really expecting it to push it but I know with my current CPU I may end up being heavily bottlenecked. That I can solve later
coarse pond
curved monitors seem cool, i haven't had the chance to try one though
full flint
Not all games support it
smoky flame
Curved monitors are meh. They look nice but after a while of looking at the screen you hardly notice the curve. I can confirm as I have the Samsung Odyssey G7 (27")
full flint
And games that support it has... it's own problems
coarse pond
yea the g7 was what i was looking at recently
smoky flame
I think you are thinking of ultrawide G-Man
full flint
For example Hitman 2's loading bar is a joke lol
You need to see it, I can't explain it
coarse pond
the ultrawide samsung curved monitor is a behemoth
full flint
@smoky flame yes lol I'm talkin about ultravide
coarse pond
i don't think i could do ultrawide, too much screen for me
full flint
Look it's awesome really, but there's few games that natively support it. And their support is well... not tnat good
smoky flame
Same. Ultrawide looks crazy. Then you have super ultrawide. The G9 is one such monitor and in some way I like its design. I bet the curve really shows on that. 49" DQHD (5120x1440) 1000R curve
ruby spear
It makes a surprising amount of difference - https://twitter.com/NVIDIAGeForce/status/1300829098894213120
smoky flame
Yeah, I've already seen this, Dark. I will have to remove the PSU shroud within my case to add the other cable as I'm using a splitter. Assuming a splitter is referring to the cables with 2x 8 pin attached that is
I've also asked around on a couple other servers and even though Nvidia recommend a 750W PSU I have been told 3 times that my 650W PSU should be fine since these are only recommendations. Apparently not even a 10900K + 2080 Ti consumes more than 500W so that has given me hope that my PSU will be enough
smoky flame
I see 350W max Worst case scenario it is a bit closer to my PSU limit. Still shouldn't reach it though plus I won't be using a 10900K
smoky flame
I'm going to see how it does. One of the people I spoke to even set my mind at ease by going through my PSU and giving a rundown. Only GPU I might not be able to run with would be a Titan RTX second gen (if it comes into existence) since that should require even more power than this 3090 does
full flint
but no. I don't know what I'm talking about. It'll be fine...not like I predicted this would happen as well as many other things
because people forget: PSUs rot and deteriorate over time.
not like I've killed 4 of them because they "should be fine" or anything
surreal moss
Realistically, just buy an 850
Thankfully I applied the same logic to my 2080ti and still have 2 850s ready to go
coarse pond
Hey Dark, would you recommend going with something higher than a 750 or do you think the 750 would be good enough even overtime?
full flint
like, what. it's an extra $30-40 for a Gold/Plat rating
it's not like you're deciding between a 3070 and 3090 in price
it's the same logic as cheaping out on the motherboard
@coarse pond I always recommended 750W
surreal moss
850 gold. I wouldn’t go any lower unless you plan on getting the 3070
full flint
but I'd probably recommend 850-900 now yeah
never go below Gold rating
Gold or Plat
surreal moss
In which case 750 gold will be sufficient
coarse pond
yeah i know nvidia said they recommend 750 but idk how generous they are with that scale, plus i'm planning on getting next gen ryzen too which may or may not require more
full flint
@smoky flame
10900k: 125W TDP
2080Ti: 250W TDP
375 on just a CPU and GPU
then you have to account for storage
full flint
each sata port pulls 10-40W
depending on what's connected
optical drives (if you have one) 25W for DVD, 40W for BD
smoky flame
what about NVME SSDs? seeing as that is the big craze
smoky flame
the proper fast ones, not the ones that are no faster than SATA
smoky flame
how much more than SATA are we talking?
full flint
usually the lowest is the same
the highest is double
it depend on the drive's cache though
smoky flame
also got the fans to keep in mind of too but they definitely use little power
full flint
mouse and keyboard usually on average consume 5-7W apiece
those are usually 2W per
CPU fan's a bit more
or if you have a radiator or AIO
the motherboards themselves use 25-80W
memory DIMM is 4-6 per DIMM
140mm case fan actually pulls 6W
so amend that
smoky flame
yeah, I went through all this but maybe not down to the specifics quite like this
full flint
any RGB will likely add 5-15, maybe 20
Zen3 and DDR5 are hitting consumer market in the next year
we don't know what their TDP is
smoky flame
should be lower than Intel
full flint
I'd imagine there'd be some efficiency, but it's still going to have an increase
smoky flame
Even my 6700K isn't all that power effieicent. For a quad core CPU it is quite power hungry. I could be set to lower power usage a little with some adjustments I have planned
full flint
The thing is the TDP on these GPU is going down with each new generation
It’s not like the number is just increasing for no reason.
But I’m not going to risk my $1500 GPU dying because I was too stubborn to actually give it the power it needed
smoky flame
I will be giving it the power it needs. Just not with a 750W+ PSU
full flint
You’ll be giving it and only it the power it needs
Like.
The EVGA one is one of the better models you can get
A $30 increase for guarantee that you dont need to upgrade for 5 years
smoky flame
that may be the case for new buyers but I'd flat out have to spend that sort of money in full on a whole new PSU that only makes things a bit more comfortable. I will check with these other guys again just to be sure but they were all really convincing with their breakdowns so yet again idk who to believe... This whole contrasting information is really frustrating me
CPU I was going to go 3600 which is more effiecnent than my 6700K. May ditch the AIO cooler I use since I was told cooling a Ryzen CPU with the chiplet design isn't the same as Intel. Air coolers and AIO don't make that much of a difference. Currently run 2 SATA storage devices that I plan to convert to one NVME m.2
so yeah right there I'd say there is some power savings to be had
Worst case scenario I have to run CPU and GPU stock. Which to me isn't that big of a deal since I've been doing that anyway with my CPU and past GPUs. RAM I'd like to overclock, at least to XMP 3600MHz I hear is Zen 2's sweet spot and Ryzen CPUs love fast RAM
full flint
Worst case is your GPU dies in a year because it ends up being underpowered when gaming
You have an ultrawide. Not a 1080p
smoky flame
I don't have ultrawide. Just curved
full flint
The G7 is an ultrawide though
Or did you not get one like I thought you said you did
Or was that the G9
@surreal moss those 2080Ti are being dumped so damn quick hahaha
full flint
“And”
It's like 980ti-1070 lol
But I remember 980ti had it's moments
6 to 7
This is bigger than the 9-10
sacred iron
yess the RTX 3080 I am might get it but need to figure out ways to not pay full price
full flint
I'd say wait 3080Ti if it's a thing
hoary tiger
Liver @sacred iron
sacred iron
I'd say wait 3080Ti if it's a thing
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEnJhitjs26/?igshid=13npduhq77vbx.
it is
sacred iron
one sec
sacred iron
yes your right ti not come out yet but there will be one out soon
sacred iron
yup
full flint
that is not soon
sacred iron
I never said it was soon
full flint
yes your right ti not come out yet but there will be one out soon
sacred iron
ok fine you win
coarse pond
the 3080 will be more than enough for me, heck the 3070 would probably be more than enough for me
sacred iron
the 3080 will be more than enough for me, heck the 3070 would probably be more than enough for me
When 4080 comes 4080 is more then enough for me
Lol
Jk
full flint
the 40 series will underperform
unborn estuary
bro Nvidia just released the 3070 at half the price of the 2080 but more powerful
barren lynx
nice
thick haven
Hey can anyone recommend a good pc build?
I don't want it to be very expensive around 800$
autumn sluice
So if math is right 3070 will cost same as my whole current pc
And I only have a 600w psu
drifting dust
i gonna buy 3080 and i sell my 5 years old 980 ti away
but if 3090 is clearly better for gaming than 3080 then i gonna buy that
but i think its clearly better only for work
full flint
3090 is the new Titan, hence its cost
it's also meant for 8k gaming with current games
the 3080 is double the performance of the 2080
high fern
good morning
smoky flame
Dark, here's the exact monitor I have. https://www.samsung.com/uk/monitors/monitor-cg75/LC27G75TQSUXEN/ Just curved. Think you might have been confusing when I was talking ultrawide and G9 earlier yesterday
drifting dust
the 3080 is double the performance of the 2080
@full flint do you mean double fps in games?
floral quail
RTX 3070/3080 came just in time, i was thinking about getting an RTX pc
plus they are kinda cheap, like a gpu more powerful than RTX 2080ti in the price of launch PS3, yes!
drifting dust
but if they buy that atlaunch they play with it 2 years
floral quail
I think they're still 1500 on Amazon
@unborn estuary they are just 1500? wtf man for me they are around 1,00,000
forgot that each country has different a currency 😛
smoky flame
£1399 for the FE from Nvidia. Just need to be sure you have a PSU ready for that 12 pin adapter and you are all good to go. Otherwise the other options from AIB partners mostly seem to be 3x 8 pin options
devout remnant
@full flint that’s for the standard Nvidia one
@smoky flame yeah, I’m looking at a high end 3rd party one, and they all seem to have 3-5 versions of a 3090 so price is going to only go up for the better versions
All 3rd party ones using 8-pin
And my PSU is 1200W anyway
full flint
I think they're still 1500 on Amazon
@unborn estuary the 2080Ti dropped to $500-600 used
people are trying to offload theirs immediately
Maybe buying an used 2080ti and doing SLI would be better than buying 3070
Assuming more companies will care SLI support
no. the 3070 is both cheaper, and more powerful
and that's brand-new
Wouldn't two 2080Ti beat it, assuming game would fully utilize SLI?
that's not how SLI works
Well tbh I don't have experience with it (but something I want to experience). I thought you would put both cards, connect them with a bridge then they would work together to hopefully get 2x performance on stuff
no. it doesn't double the performance
and it's all but-dead
SLI/NVLINK is used more in media production than gaming
Ah
in games that don't support it it usually ends up causing worse performance than using a single card
SLI would only really be useful if you were using virtual superresolution
smoky flame
only thing the 3070 really lacks over the 2080 Ti is 3GB VRAM. That may become a limiting factor with some games and their settings at certain resolutions but otherwise should perform great. Pretty insane the value of the 3070 tbh
full flint
no
that's not how memory scaling works
just like how 4GB of GDDR6 is better than 8gb of GDDR5
they aren't a 1:1
then there's clock speed
memory bandwidth
total throughput
memory clock
smoky flame
3070 is relatable to the 2080 TI though. GDDR6
full flint
but the architecture is not
the memory bandwidth is higher on the 3070
It is entirely and objectively better for games
the only reason the larger memory pool on the slower card would make a difference (lol not really) is in media production
using RAM-Preview to render
but even then, the higher CUDA count, clock speed, and memory clock on the 3070 would outperform
as well as the fact the GPU's on Samsung 8nm
So, VRAM bottleneck isn't a thing?
your motherboard would be a bottleneck before the GPU would
I mean people were literally nuking Nvidia for 3gb 1060
smoky flame
what about the memory bus width? That's significantly lower on the 3070. That won't make any difference right?
full flint
no. not really. not considering it runs at a higher throughput per-pin
smoky flame
Nvidia really done wonders then. 3070 is impressing me. Those other cards specs though. Mind. Blown.
worldly ravine
hot basalt
Why all programs ask me to update Drivers grafics but i dont have grafic card and my cpu doesnt have integrated
fleet mason
If your cpu doenst have integrated graphics how are you using your computer without a graphics card?
hot basalt
I have an amd a 10 it doesnt show i have radeom grafics
autumn sluice
Yea so integrated graphics
3070 ti was spotted with 16gb of vram
And if I want a new gpu probably need a new PC entirely
native acorn
No thanks Intel, l'm sticking with AMD
Why all programs ask me to update Drivers grafics but i dont have grafic card and my cpu doesnt have integrated
You need a new PC build with a graphics card
devout remnant
@full flint NVLink can 2x the performance
But depends on the game
On Gears 4 it was implemented really well
I got 2x the FPS at 4K
foggy vigil
"i dont have grafic card and my cpu doesnt have integrated"
Then what is powering your display? 
devout remnant
Magic ^
foggy vigil
I'm only aware of two options here.. a dedicated GPU, or integrated lol
anything else is pure magic
smoky flame
AMD A10 does have Radeon graphics but they are pretty old APUs now
coarse pond
SLI/NVLink was always a niche market of people using it for gaming. It's totally understandable for nvidia to drop support for it for anything but the 3090
full flint
Lower cards have more support than the Titan models
coarse pond
and yeah like what you said it was really meant for media production and such and people using it for overclocking records
i was never interested in trying out SLI
full flint
Titans are supported, but with the Titan V the support was more limited. the standard GeForce cards still support it
Quadro and GeForce have the same amount of SLI/NVLink support.
coarse pond
Yeah, I just meant for future now it makes sense for nvidia to not support it on the cards more for gaming and just keeping it on their most expensive card
devout remnant
@coarse pond if the games you play supported it, literally was amazing.
Apart from that, no real need.
coarse pond
newer games was already not supporting it much
devout remnant
There’s a good amount that are though.
That’s the point, depends on what you play.
But I agree, support is limited.
And it restricts your overall maximum frames.
Which is no good pushing 180+
coarse pond
like the last couple assassins creed didn't have support for it, neither did BF5
the high end pc gaming community was already a niche market in the pc space and the sli/nvlink market was more niche than that was and yeah the fact that games could hurt your fps was just daunting to me
misty robin
Hey guys! Would anyone be up to help me take on General Raam in Gears of War Ultimate Edition on PC?
full flint
@devout remnant @coarse pond so...in a sudden twist
the 3090 is the only 30 series that supports it
so even if you wanted to you can't NVLINK the other cards at all
coarse pond
that's what i was saying
lusty oak
How about them Lakers?
full flint
Kaby Lakers?
lusty oak
No.
full flint
idk. I don't care for Intel anymore
sacred iron
Yes but no but yes but
full flint
Please don't confuse yourself again
lusty oak
What's everyone playing tonight?
lusty oak
PS4 Skyrim for me.
coarse pond
Nothing right now. Prob will play some more FFXV later
smoky flame
was playing some Modern Warfare but stopped
sacred iron
adobe I stoped for paying for them
full flint
but hey...at least the compositions are coming along
also god that playback is slow
full flint
just timing
pc is god you all pray you could have one
I do have one
I have a pretty monstrous one in fact
Your logic is flawed and point, irrelevant
@full flint you are irrelevant you prob have a gtx 770
I actually have 2 Titan in SLI
a 1070 FE
a Frankenstein 970
An old ATI card from 2011
A 1080Ti
A baby 1060 3gb single fan
And a few more niche chips
@full flint you do realize 2 2080 ti in sli is better for gaming than titans
Depends on the game, and depends on the titans
2 2080Ti are better than a single Titan RTX
but not Titan RTX in SLI
just like how low-end quadro are worse at gaming than standard single-gaming cards
but a Quadro RTX 8000 will blast past any other card
smoky flame
Zukie, I have a PC too. 6700K, 16GB ram and 5700 XT
full flint
wait. when did you get the 5700XT
https://streamable.com/fbwifr mm. particles
That's the magic of Disney
smoky flame
I've had it over a month now
using it as a replacement for my 1080 TI (that I since sold)
full flint
I guess be glad you dumped it when you did
smoky flame
yup
full flint
the market's oversaturated with 10 and 20 series for cheap cause people are dumping them
ruby spear
@full flint Keep it civil
smoky flame
£300 in the pocket from my 1080 Ti
autumn sluice
@full flint looks at kijiji "yea im not gaming much anymore, i have this 2080 ti barely used 2200$"
as a new cheap card drops lmao
full flint
I always recommended people to wait instead of buying a 20-series card
coarse pond
Yeah, I was willing to buy a 2080 super asus white edition card a couple months ago just to have in the mean time and was going to keep because I liked the look of it. had a $880 bid on it and someone outbidded me and it ended at $960 and it was the only one I could find now there's a ton of people trying to sell it off lmao
tribal pilot
So what is the 3070 equivalent to roughly?
full flint
more than a 2080Ti
or roughly equivalent to the Ti(?), but more than the 2080 base for sure
XLR8 might know about that more than me
tribal pilot
That’s what I am looking at getting for 500 it’s in my budget tho I will have to get a new power supply.
full flint
Yeah. it'll be a nice upgrade for most
coarse pond
Yeah Nvidia claims it's more than the 2080ti but we don't really know how fast or faster it is in gaming till benchmarks come out
full flint
those aren't even claims
even in paper spec it is
the 3080 is flat double the 2080
it's no stretch that the 3070 is roughly the 2080Ti or a bit more
coarse pond
Yeah. I was reading that they are measuring cuda cores different this time around though and the 10k cuda cores on the 3090 doesn't mean the same as 10k cuda cores on turing, apparently
full flint
honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was 150% the 2080Ti and the 3080 175-190% the 2080Ti, with the 3060 ending up being match-for-match the 2080Ti
more cuda cores on newer architecture is much stronger
just like how newer 1TF on RDNA2.0 is much stronger than 1TF on GCN
tribal pilot
Do I even need to consider a 2080 or would have to have a 4K monitor to take advantage of it?
coarse pond
True. From the digital foundry video though it does show some insight, looks like the 3080 is roughly 80% faster than the 2080 in non raytracing scenarios and 90% with raytracing
But no raw fps data shown yet
you mean 3080?
I was watchin this a bit ago, that's what I was referring to being mentioned here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6_yeMhqRK4
surreal moss
All cards are about 80-100% more efficient than their turing counterparts
But efficiency does not equal frames
tribal pilot
Yeah meant 3080 sorry
coarse pond
Yeah that's what I meant XLR8. Couldn't find the right word 😂
I mean, I'm still considering getting a 3080 and I'm mainly just going to be doing 1440p gaming. Gonna wait till I see benchmarks to order tho
I'll go with a 3070 if it does the job as well for 1440p though
tribal pilot
I will get the 3070 more then likely still have a power supply and monitor and a new ps5 console to get. But if we ever get another stimulus yeah 3080 for sure lol.
autumn sluice
hmm if im on the low end of voltage for my pc could i use a 600w power supply for the 3070?
full flint
I really wouldn't advise it
but it depends on what CPU you have
if your CPU draws 75 or more I'd advise against
autumn sluice
default tdp is 65w
r5 2600
i might wait for the 3060 super or ti.
ill have the new tech and better fps than the 1650 super i have but itll be cheaper for me in canada
full flint
waiting for the Ti models will give you some time to save as well so it won't just be an immediate "ouch" on the wallet after buying a 2080Ti
open belfry
I would say if you are spending that much you should get a better monitor
old skiff
@open belfry What would you recommend
open belfry
This is the one I got and I like it alot, although i'm not an expert when it comes to colors.
Also, I would say you should get a SSD if you don't already have one
Is a good site for this imo, they don't have the new graphics cards yet though
full flint
open belfry
A mid tier processor and a SSD will likely have a greater performance jump than a top tier processor and a HDD
full flint
the 3090 is even bigger than the 3080
fleet mason
It's much more powerful, that's why.
The SEries x and PS5 don't look all that big now.
full flint
until you remember that the PS5 is bigger than a PS3 Fat
ruby spear
PS5 is almost big enough to make a new high tech Stone Henge
smoky flame
3090 to be about the same size as a Series X? That's pretty scary
orchid quarry
3090 is only a bit taller
lean cloak
I got a RTX 2080 machine last year, now it probably couldn't even run Cyberpunk 2077 now that they have those new cards. Sad.
smoky flame
You will still be able to run Cyberpunk 2077. Though how the game will perform with the 2080 is anyone's guess. November 19th still feels so far away 😦
full flint
You'll be fine for rasterized gameplay 4k@60 (not ultra) or 1080/1440p120p (ultra/high) most likely
their first gameplay reveal we saw was on a 1080Ti
full flint
Didn't they said "We're trying to give low-end GPU users decent graphics while high-end GPU users will get awesome graphics"?
lean cloak
sad that rtx2080 is now low end, I was going to buy a PS5 or Xbox series X but it's the same price as a rtx 3070
devout remnant
I wouldn’t say it’s low end, it’s still a good GPU, just drops down into a mid range tier now.
surreal moss
devout remnant
^
smoky flame
the whole RTX 30 series is ahead of console
full flint
Lol tbh 3070 seems better than Consoles
surreal moss
autumn sluice
accurate
devout remnant
worldly ravine
Razer Naga Pro
surreal moss
What
surreal moss
@full flint would you have any idea why the installation of the 3900x causes my 1650 fans to go through the roof for a few seconds after turning my computer on
Bios was already running current version preinstallation
So idk wtf it’s problem is
fleet mason
And the 3090 is much bigger than the nvidia card of when the ps3 came out.
native acorn
20 button Razer Naga Pro, that's a lot of buttons
https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga-pro/RZ01-03420100-R3U1
autumn sluice
so the psu recommended wattage is based on a 125w cpu
smoky flame
between the CPU and GPU (assuming that 125w CPU is something like the 10900K and GPU is the 3090) that's at least 475W
throw in maybe another 100W for the rest of the stuff. 575W. Overclocking either the CPU or GPU will increase that further
full flint
@surreal moss https://twitter.com/d01n/status/1300953001587171328?s=20
also...
I think it just depends on the motherboard entirely
Did you notice anything funky looking in the bios when you were in it?
cinder whale
PC master race
full flint
@tribal pilot
tribal pilot
Thanks that helps
devout remnant
3090 about 20% faster I reckon than 80.
Find out soon.
devout remnant
Will see, can’t see a bigger gap than that
full flint
I can
because I know how the specs translate
936gbps total clock bandwidth is no joke
full flint
bus is larger as well
higher clock rate, higher mem frequency
expect 30-40% in some games honestly. if not more
CPU bound games won't really be a good measure
devout remnant
Well, I hope so, because then you have an absolute monster if it’s pushing that much even above a 3080.
full flint
the 3090 is designed for 8k DLSS and DLSS-less gaming
obviously which being used depends on game intensity
smoky flame
I can't wait to try DLSS. Feels odd saying that considering RTX GPUs have been around for something like 2 years now and we're about to move to 2nd generation RTX. If the gains in performance really are as big as they show off I'll be really impressed. Though I may have to consider getting myself a 4K monitor to truly test a 3090. Maxed settings + RTX + DLSS
full flint
I wonder if they plan to shift in DLSS 3.0 with the 30 series
since DLSS2.0 still has some issues
even in Death Stranding where it's best showcased
chrial matter floating into the sky can leave trails when you move/move camera
like a ghosting effect
smoky flame
We'll probably see that introduced some time during the RTX 30 series. DLSS 2.0 sounds pretty awesome. Have heard though DLSS could some day integrate with games that support TAA
perhaps hinting at a future DLSS NVCP option that if the game supports TAA the DLSS option would become available to games new and old
full flint
TAA needs to die
smoky flame
I agree but if DLSS can be paired with it and tuned to the point the ghosting and blurring can be removed from it I don't mind but at that point doesn't DLSS effectively become its own thing? Tbh I'd rather disable in game anti aliasing and have a DLSS toggle for all games. Free performance and visuals that are superior to native resolutions at no cost
only frustrating thing some games can have built in anti aliasing that can't be disabled right?
Control, for example is one game I think. Has TAA baked in
smoky flame
Going to watch a bunch of videos on RTX features to see just what I can expect when I get a RTX 30 series GPU. Every day that passes by just gets me more excited 😄
full flint
I find it funny that the NVIDIA announcement specifically mentioned the Xbox Series X by name but not PS5 (when talking Ray-Tracing)
devout remnant
Series X is more powerful, so it makes sense to reference that over the weaker PS5
I believe PS5 also have more software based Ray Tracing, don’t quote me on that, just read that it might not be on par with Series X.
full flint
I'm fairly sure as well
devout remnant
Yeah, seems SONY were happy for PS4 Pro to be weaker than One X
And again, this time around as well
full flint
they didn't care because ultimately they'll just sign exclusivity deals, and they'd already demolished sales charts
fleet mason
Because ultimately the devs make the games great, not the hardware. And we all know how the xbox devs are doing compared to sony devs.
A talented artist will make masterpieces with whatever tools you give them, while an untalented one will struggle to do so with all the tools in the world!
wet flame
i have a question about the gamebar
does anyone else have the issue where they cannot resize the spotify widget for the gamebar? i was able to do it once and now i cant
tribal pilot
For your average person I doubt they will be able to tell the difference between ps5 and series x graphics.
full flint
Depends
full flint
I mean ahem RDR 2
fleet mason
WiredShadow, if you compared the same game, would be difficult unless you're looking at screenshots/framerates, like a digital foundry video. For the average person that is.
devout remnant
@tribal pilot you can definitely tell the difference in sharpness & quality - especially if you know about the power differences, you’re probably a little more into that, also the fake 4K via checkerboarding and/or the very limited FPS.
When switching from PC to play consoles for exclusives, you really notice.
@fleet mason but if you’re discussing it, probably not the average person 😄
Most people have one console, so nothing really to compare against.
full flint
orchid quarry
Lmao
smoky flame
We were just talking DLSS last night, Dark https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvidia-officially-announces-and-details-dlss-2-1-brings-ultra-performance-mode-for-8k-gaming/
full flint
yeah, I know about 2.1 being for 8k
orchid quarry
3090 are for rich people
smoky flame
hard to say now tbh. Doesn't sound like DLSS 3.0 will be something upcoming any time soon
floral quail
me with my gt 710 here 😦
smoky flame
you were asking why Minecraft RTX wasn't working over in general chat when you have a gt 710? That would explain it. RTX only works on RTX 20 and 30 series GPUs though Nvidia did also enable it on GTX 10 series cards but it is far from ideal. I don't see why they even bothered doing that tbh
full flint
only hybrid solutions are enabled on 10 series
path-tracing will not run at all on a 10 series card, you are REQUIRED to have RT cores on your card.
smoky flame
I see. That would have explained how I was able to play stuff like Control and Metro Exodus with RTX on when I had my 1080 Ti. FPS was horrible but I got to see some sort of ray tracing I guess
floral quail
so i am planning to get an rtx pc because my poor gt710 cant even run minecraft normally forget rtx minecraft and i cant wait to experience rtx and cant stop complaining about my trash pc
smoky flame
you picked a pretty good time to consider going RTX
floral quail
yeah
i was considering it when rtx cards first came but decided to get a ps4 instead because i really liked the concept of horizon zero dawn, i guess that was the best decision cuz now i got uncharted 4 and am gonna get a great gpu for my pc
😄
smoky flame
You might want to check that your PC's power supply will be up to the task. These new GPUs will require quite a bit of power
floral quail
yeah Im thinking about a whole new pc not just the gpu
i will probably sell the one im using rn
supple basalt
To me
Jk
floral quail
k
where im from ppl care about only and only the gb of the gpu and i will just tell them it has 6GB so then they will be happy with buying a potato pc off of me
tough fern
who wants to play spiderman ps4xboxeditiongoldpspluslive with me
mossy siren
nah dude i have the spiderman ps4 xbox live edition gold plus ps live ultimate gamer edition
tough fern
oh yea i have the spiderman ps4animegoldpluspsedition ultimate gamer zone cod of duty warzone edition
tough fern
i hope spiderman ps4ultimategold live gamer shlongdoodleplusvideocamgirlyoutube64 get an Nes port
mossy siren
actually i have the spiderman ps4 xbox live zero two waifu body pillow edition waifu anime xnox live ps live edition cam girl edition fortnite battle royale
tough fern
oh yea, i have the xbox360livepsgoldplusspidermanwaifuboddypillowjhotarohoewssfa aslghosgns af l;skfsddoodlehahahaheditionpluscodwarzoneplusgold live waifuy minecraft steve
ruby spear
Stop spamming
ruby spear
Then stop spamming and keep it family friendly.
fleet mason
Lol
barren burrow
dammit
foggy vigil
@barren burrow you wanna keep trying?
foggy vigil
Chill?
barren burrow
yes
foggy vigil
You're intentionally saying inappropriate words
barren burrow
ik
foggy vigil
Have you.. read the rules?
barren burrow
No
obsidian bobcatBOT
barren burrow
can you not ban me and just let me read the rules???
foggy vigil
I didn't ban you, I kicked you
You're on the thinnest of ice, so read the #rules and follow them
barren burrow
yea still im reading them now all you have to do is simply say “Please read the rules”
foggy vigil
I'm not going to all smiley happy towards a person who is deliberately trying to come in here and be inappropriate
You probably should have been banned already tbh
barren burrow
ok i read the rules, So are you gonna ban me now?
Nobody:
[Mod] Deek: Ban user 618144565123088424 for saying two swear words.
ban me if you are gonna act like a child ab two swear words
foggy vigil
If you behave and engage in conversation, there is no reason to ban you
thorny cypress
Enforcing our server rules is not acting like a child. Coming into a server, not reading the rules (which are prompted on join), and your first messages being childish swear words, is being childish
barren burrow
im a child😀👍
so it is childish behavior
thanks for pointing out the obvious
Mr Defender Of Good :)
hey can someone ban me?
@foggy vigil can u ban me
main ether
just leave?
foggy vigil
obsidian bobcatBOT
lean finch
thorny cypress
Deek hasn't updated Discord for awhile I think
foggy vigil
My discord auto updates o_o
jolly quarry
Highlight it
thorny cypress
I mean, I have to click the green arrow in the top right to refresh when an update's available
jolly quarry
And it turns white
smoky flame
wow, all that drama 😮
smoky flame
20 sleeps until RTX 3090!
waxen axle
raven hull
I mean, I have to click the green arrow in the top right to refresh when an update's available
turns white when you scroll down. it's colored when it's on the banner.
full flint
no, it's green pretty much all the time
the only time it's not is when it's checking, which it'll turn into a cloud with an arrow
raven hull
Sounds like you're full screened, so there's no scrolling.
well that didn't upload as a gif
full flint
oh. I thought we were talking about the update symbol
raven hull
yeah, I was late to the discussion. Just wanted to share the answer to their mystery.
autumn sluice
psa for everyone: psu requirements for the 30 series are based on a 125w cpu
full flint
CPU TDP overhead's going to increase in the upcoming gen
so that's likely why. cause there's not too many 125W CPU out there right now in the gaming market
full flint
even the 3950x only has a default of 105
but the lower end on the next generation CPUs will be a basline higher
and the higher-end will also be higher ofc
autumn sluice
yep
full flint
mostly to scale throughput
autumn sluice
but im glad that my cpu is only 65w so i dont need a psu upgrade
full flint
Hugs3
surreal moss
base your psu around 250w if using intel
if your k version cpu turbo volts and your gpu hits total peak at the same time and you have a 650, youre done.
cedar torrent
surreal moss
not 8k60 but 8k sure
last ridge
20 sleeps until RTX 3090!
@smoky flame more like 20 bonuses till 3090
base your psu around 250w if using intel
@surreal moss ☠️
meant to quote the whole block but man that's a lot of power, intel + nvidia
full flint
@surreal moss
analog sapphire
whaaaaaat
open belfry
Its the new processor from Lovecraft inc
surreal moss
Spogeti
nimble laurel
Does anyone know a good company for pre-built PCs in Canada?
devout remnant
@nimble laurel CyberPowerPC if you can get it in Canada!
nimble laurel
While they do ship to Canada, I would prefer a company that operates in Canada.
I want to avoid tariffs if possible.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
devout remnant
Ahh ok, I own one myself hence the recommendation, they use top tier parts as options too & some builds look really nice.
Good luck with your search!
autumn sluice
If I'm using a ryzen 5 2600, am I gonna bottleneck the 3070 if I'm playing on 1080p
smoky flame
Ryzen CPUs tend to have a higher bottleneck percentage than Intel due to their memory and chiplet designs but I think we are talking single figure percentages and milliseconds. Perhaps even nanoseconds. Stuff that shouldn't be too noticeable to most users. What refresh rate are you running at? 3070 being equally as powerful or better than the 2080 Ti 1080p may prove to be too easy for it, to which you would then want to consider upgrading to 1440p or 4K. It will reduce performance but at the same time CPU load goes down too since the higher resolutions are giving the GPU more work to do
autumn sluice
120 atm. I can go to 144 but screen gets a bit color wierd
I won't really care about anything over 1080p until monitors are cheaper
surreal moss
You’re gonna bottleneck hard on multicore games
Especially if you’re not using an SSD
autumn sluice
well i have the ssd
smoky flame
1080p 120Hz might be a bit too easy for the 3070 to hit. At least depending on games. Not sure if you can use DLSS at 1080p but if so yeah. Suddenly it may be your monitor holding the rest of the system back since it is throwing out more FPS than it knows what to do with and you wouldn't be making the GPU work as it would like to
autumn sluice
but im wondering if the new io throughput might make it easier for cpus
well im not exactly concerned with that atm. im getting a 3070 so i hopefully dont need to upgrade for at east 5 years
smoky flame
I wouldn't be too sure on that. If we see another leap like this around 2 years after RTX 20 series launch it may well be every 2-3 years are huge leaps for RTX technology
autumn sluice
true but rtx is kinda...meh? imo
autumn sluice
my issue is its kinda just fancy lighting from what i know
smoky flame
RTX 30 series has turned it from being meh to ok, now we're watching. I really don't think what Jensen said at the end of the stream was any joke. These next 20 years are going to be big
autumn sluice
well yea. i wouldnt be surprised if nvidia is making specialty cards like the 1650 super for rtx
smoky flame
fancy lighting and effects that take realism to a whole new level. We'll look back in 5 years time at the games we used to play and stare in amazement at how much more detailed things are now to even just 5 years ago
autumn sluice
yea so not a huge concern for me yet
smoky flame
Won't be too long I'd imagine before we begin to see games that are fully ray traced. Meaning if one wanted to play that game they would require an RTX GPU or similar with AMD
surreal moss
It’ll be cut off eventually
We already cut off old practices
Nothing stopping us from doing it again
autumn sluice
true but with the amount of ppl not using rtx right now, id say full rtx is at least years away
surreal moss
Soon engines will be built to run ray tracing natively and development efforts won’t be applied to downscale
We’re already seeing this with SSDs
Series X HDD cutoff for example
smoky flame
I do wonder if SSDs with games are going to become a requirement really fast or still optional and what about the older but still faster than HDD SATA SSDs? PS5 and Series X jumping straight to the even faster SSDs was a surprise. Definitely won't have come as cheap as if they were to go SATA SSD instead and that would have still reduced load times etc considerably
surreal moss
Most new games on pc by aaa companies build around it now
And you see heavily punished performance otherwise
smoky flame
m.2 for the full experience has to be expanded or the ones that are faster than SATA SSD need to be separated from the m.2 that are much the same sort of speed
coarse pond
if you're wondering about bottlenecks you should look at this, 3800xt / 10900k with 2080ti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm4U_S_5dSo
smoky flame
Intel's 10900K is also in an odd spot where it can't actually be compared to any AMD CPU. Ryzen 7 3700X, 3800X and 3800 XT all being 8 cores and then Ryzen 9 3900X and 3900 XT are 12 cores. I'm always being told we don't need a CPU like the 10900K. Hell, even 8 core CPUs, at least just now seem excessive since most games barely use more than 4 cores still. Making anything past AMD's Ryzen 3 3300X or Intel's i3 10350K a luxury
surreal moss
sounds like an amd fanboy who doesnt know what theyre talking about
i guess a 5.3ghz boost clock means nothing
but more cores less money amd good intel bad
or whatever you read on reddit
smoky flame
Until Intel get their act together that is somewhat how I see it tbh. Why pay double or so on the same sort of CPU that just happens to be perhaps a little faster? AMD are positioned really nicely in the CPU market I think
surreal moss
ill tell you why
suddenly theres a huge audience thats concerned about bottlenecking their 3000 cards
and all the PC content creators are putting bottlenecking comparison videos up
and take a wild guess who wins by a mile
smoky flame
Some of these content creators are the same people that go on to bash Intel and have done for idk how long but long enough that now they show off stuff that favours Intel all of a sudden? What about this new boost feature Intel have on their 10th gen CPUs? isn't exactly efficient. Nearly doubling power usage and for what? that slight boost for X amount of seconds?
surreal moss
intels have been doing that for years, its not new
its how they maintain boost under high load so they dont bottleneck
guess what cpu doesnt do that and is famous for bottlenecking under load
ryzens
my 8700k pulls 250w for up to 16 seconds at times
its 4 sec by default, i have it turned up
the situation is this
nvidia has inadvertently created cards so powerful that the corners amd cut to make the most budget friendly cpus on the market are biting them in the ass now
zen 3 should fix this but they havent even announced them yet
smoky flame
now I'm confused. AMD are the ones cutting corners? I thought Intel were the ones doing that to achieve these sorts of results? I mean, how else is Intel still competing with AMD when it is still on 14nm. AMD should have left them in the dust after 7th gen. I sure can't wait to see how Intel's first non 14nm CPUs turn out. Especially with how long they have been stuck at 14nm
surreal moss
they didnt though
smoky flame
7th gen being what should have been 14nm "tock" before moving on
surreal moss
smaller nodes arent always better
hence why intel still competes at double the size
amd adopted tech early and have slow chips as a result
my favorite is how all the chips are advertized to run at 4.4-4.8 ghz, but thats only their precision boost
they actually run at 4.0-4.2
surreal moss
theres a reason every work station ever uses intel even when amd is better for your budget
rather than just go smaller and smaller and more efficient they refine the node for improved stability and speed
thats why even with rocket lake using 10nm willow coves, theyre backporting to 14nm
hell amd will probably be on 5nm before they even hit 5ghz
smoky flame
I'm way behind on the CPUs then. All this stuff sounds more complicated than is worth. I said before I don't mind running stock. I do just that with my 6700K right now and seem to get ok performance but with console pushing 8 cores + SMT at last I know sooner or later I will have no choice but to go at least 8 cores
There was even a time, might still be a thing where even having hyperthreading/SMT enabled actually hurt in game performance
surreal moss
youre in the majority that should just buy ryzens
but the whole thing of like "theres no reason to buy intel" is just reddit bs
smoky flame
no, I get there is reasons to buy Intel just certain CPUs at certain prices and certain workloads just seems idk how to put it. Unnecessary? What I see a lot is 8+ cores being recommended for those who game and stream
smoky flame
Strictly for gamers 6 cores seems the sweet spot, or so some say at the moment. Meaning if I upgrade now, purely for gaming seems my best choices are AMD's 3600 or Intel's 10600K and I'm often getting advised to avoid the 3600X/XT since they cost extra for no real gains
smoky flame
something I have heard which may have me consider the 3600X if I find it cheaper than the 3600 somehow. 3600X stock cooler can cool the CPU better than the one included with the 3600. Also, a friend of mine managed to find a 3800X going cheaper than 3700X so anything is possible lol
surreal moss
3700x is what i recommend
what i truly recommend is waiting till rocket lake and zen 3
smoky flame
yeah, at this point if I'm serious about getting the 3090 I'll have no choice but to wait for those CPUs and 2021. 3090 to me is my birthday and Christmas rolled into one
2020/21 could prove quite the upgrade spree for me. 3090 now. Might as well rebuild whole PC in 2021. PSU and all then I know for sure I'm covered. Not sure if I will go Intel though. Plenty of time to think about it though. I'd just rather not be stuck on Z170 and a 6700K for too much longer. Would have preferred to upgrade the CPU etc this year but man, those RTX 30 series GPUs have me too hyped up. Even more since I skipped 20 series so I'm expecting some huge gains in performance coming from a 1080 Ti and 5700 XT to RTX 30X0
might even upgrade my monitor next year too. After all the CPU and GPU upgrades are done if 1440p 240Hz at maxed settings + RTX on and DLSS is too easy for what I have by then
autumn sluice
so wait i do have to upgrade my r5 2600?
full flint
The 2600 bottlenecked current gen GPUs so it wouldn't be a surprise if it bottlenecked even faster ones running PCIe4
coarse pond
basically the lower the res the higher the frames and the more the cpu has to work, a 2600 paired with a 3070 or higher will likely be unbalanced yea
autumn sluice
great
potent blade
Play sea of thifs
surreal moss
C of theefs
devout remnant
See ov thee Vzz
autumn sluice
so uh looks like watercoolers are gonna take a bit if you get a founders edition
so tldr
water cooler manufacturers got the reference cad
problem is no company is making a card based on it cause its too expensive so all the aib's and nvidia are making boards different from the reference so no water cooling company has a design to go off yet
devout remnant
Fastest Air Cooled Card is good enough, just want one ASAP.
lusty oak
coarse pond
no preorders? i'mma have to be quick then lmao
full sentinel
how about if i pair my r5 3600 with 3070, plus a 1440p monitor?? Will it still be bottlenecked?
smoky flame
3070 might be fine. Just the 3080 and 3090 especially that seem almost ready to bottleneck most systems
surreal moss
No, you’re going to bottleneck
full flint
you're going to bottleneck with anything under an R9 as it stands now
autumn sluice
So I defo won't be playing 120fps 1080p high on cyperpunk with a r5 2600? Rip
full flint
you might be able to push 120
tribal pilot
Will my I7-8700k Be enough for a 3070 or 3080?
full flint
Wanna kiss
ruby spear
Don't be a creep either
full flint
Very rude I meant the band
obsidian bobcatBOT
obsidian bobcatBOT
remote coral
ruby spear
Yes they were.
wind scarab
Boom
fleet mason
@tribal pilot nope. It'll bottleneck.
brazen maple
Who remember flash games?
full flint
I’m looking to buy a good gaming laptop, my mom thinks for me to run games like the isle, I need good processing speed, what would be your recommendations from Best Buy Canada?
fleet mason
If money is not the issue, get the most powerful one.
autumn sluice
@full flint buy a desktop then
full flint
Chief, can’t, I’m also gonna use it for school
Pace, I’m not very smart about pc’s, so I’m not sure what the most powerful one would be
autumn sluice
laptop is always gonna be limited compared to a dekstop. also had same thinking as you, never ended up using it in school as much
whether it be size, heat, power
and if money really isnt an issue, get a cheap netbook for school and build a desktop to play games, especially now with nvidia dropping damn fine cards
lean cloak
@full flint Heard the Zephyrus G14 is good
I'm enjoying my razer blade, I know people have problem with that company but It runs Control on 1080p Ultra just fine.
full flint
@lean cloak I’m looking for a laptop that can run VTOL VR, which needs 16GB of memory, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 graphics card, intel core i7-7Y75 CPU, 4GB file size, and windows ten
lean cloak
My Razer blade runs Half Life Alyx fine on ultra setting
ruby spear
Plenty of laptops can run VR.
lean cloak
I think any RTX laptop out there can run VR fine
autumn sluice
yea but u have to spend an arm for one
lean cloak
find a job... I don't know man
autumn sluice
in this economy?
its also nigh impossible for me cause i take care of my high risk mother
lean cloak
Yes but you are not buying the laptop lol
coarse pond
i actually didn't know about that XLR8 with AIOs
with how manufactures and people on youtube having their AIOs set up that way I never thought there would be anything wrong with those layouts. glad I saw that video before I built my pc lol
smoky flame
Honestly, that video on AIO just makes me want to avoid them even more. Which would mean ripping out the one I have currently installed and installing an air cooler which tbh I will just wait until I get a new CPU, motherboard etc to do all that. At least then I have a reason worthy of taking my PC apart
ruby spear
No emulator content, Ming.
full flint
What VR headset would you guys recommend?
@smoky flame custom loops have the same rules honestly
Rn I’m looking to get the oculus rift S
@surreal moss help
lusty oak
Garlic bread, no contest.
lusty oak
Garlic bread, no contest.
What I just said...
full flint
yes. I know.
lusty oak
Although, in my case, it will only be 4183 pieces of garlic bread.
full flint
is garlic bread more expensive where you are?
I couldn't imagine overly expensive garlic bread. my world would crumble
What VR headset would you guys recommend?
lusty oak
No, I based my calculations on $1499 for 6271 pieces. I only have $1000.
full flint
ah
zinc tiger
lusty oak
I think caps lock was warranted in this case. 😁
analog sapphire
lol
coarse pond
yeah seemed like it was intentional at first
fleet mason
Why garlic bread and not cheeseburgers.
obsidian bobcatBOT
gusty delta
I bought xbox Game pass ultimate and installed human fall flat, but when I try to install a server, I get the error "server startup failed" in the same way I can't join other servers what I need to do. Pls help
full sentinel
Should I upgrade my mid-range gaming pc (esp. the gpu) or should I just buy a Series X + 4K TV? Hmmmm 🤔
raven hull
What’s your current setup?
full sentinel
R5 3600 | MSI B450M | RX 570 | 1080p/144hz monitor
full flint
if you can snag a 3070 or even a 3060 when announced/released then you'd have a decent upgrade
smoky flame
I'd say wait and see what AMD launch. Their head of marketing appears to be teasing people of an upcoming announcement in the next day or so on Twitter with the lyrics to a song or something
full sentinel
if you can snag a 3070 or even a 3060 when announced/released then you'd have a decent upgrade
@full flint yah, but I think my monitor needs also an upgrade. 1440p/4k monitors are expensive af
full sentinel
I don't think I would go back to 60hz. 😦
3070 most probably + a new monitor VS XSX+4K TV
smoky flame
just be aware that you may need a PSU upgrade with that 3070. I'd think it consumes quite a bit more power than the RX 570 you have
full sentinel
If you're on my shoes, which one would you go for?
smoky flame
what PSU you got currently?
full sentinel
just be aware that you may need a PSU upgrade with that 3070. I'd think it consumes quite a bit more power than the RX 570 you have
@smoky flame Yeah, good thing I have 750w EVGA Supernova 2
smoky flame
oh, nice. Then you are more than prepared with that
Honestly I think I'd go the 3070 + new monitor route
but be aware AMD are yet to announce anything and the 3070 isn't due to launch until October
full sentinel
but be aware AMD are yet to announce anything and the 3070 isn't due to launch until October
@smoky flame Right! Still gonna wait for AMD's announcement. Thanks man!
autumn sluice
1080p is fine
green parrot
4k is 10x better than 1080 for stuff other than gaming
u can have 4 windows open and still see everything clearly
can also use small fonts so u can see more of what ur working on
cedar smelt
Ya know, I think that's a really important point I rarely see anyone raise.
green parrot
everyones focussed on gaming and stuff
cedar smelt
A large 4k screen is gonna be great for graphics design, for code (keep 4-5 files open at once) and so many other things.
green parrot
especially for code
quality of life when coding for me is way better
can have a terminal open and can see like 2-3 pages of code at the same time all the while having chrome open on the side to google stuff
cedar smelt
I hadn't even thought about it. I don't have a 4k monitor yet, but that's absolutely something to look forward to.
green parrot
also having an online course open, a documentation page, and an editor at the same time
plucky marsh
I have a 4k monitor and 2 others for coding
And my laptop screen, but usually use that for emails
4k is definitely very helpful though in those situations
brazen maple
Who remember trollface quest?
full flint
Who remember trollface quest?
Me
thick moat
Anyoen here know about the Epic games Store version of The Outer Worlds and not getting the DLC?
brazen maple
Me
@full flint i have the full collection downloadable
coarse pond
i don't really do anything else on my pc besides game or browse social media/watch videos though, so for me I don't really need a 4k monitor and the monitors only having 60hz was always a problem for me because of the games I was playing. I upgraded to 1440p 144hz ips and it's been the sweet spot for me, at least till 4k 144hz becomes more affordable
frosty comet
Anyone wanna be friends?
full flint
That works. Thanks
frosty comet
Np
full flint
@smoky flame https://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-radeon-rx-6000-rdna-2-gpus-ryzen-4000-vermeer-cpus-october-unveil/
devout remnant
^ Yes
full flint
https://youtu.be/Ngy9TIbREJE he ended up buying one
coarse pond
i saw that lmao
smoky flame
yeah, Dark. I saw the announcement earlier. Now idk if I should wait or push on with trying to get a 3090. A couple of things concern me about RDNA 2. 3090 should be well ahead of anything AMD can throw but pricing will be interesting
coarse pond
full flint
lol
coarse pond
jay got his hands on the 3080, looks like more content creators are starting to get it now