#pc-gaming | XBOX | Page 65

tribal pilot Jul 3, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Anybody play mount and blade 2? Is it worth it or wait longer for bugs to be worked out?

tribal pilot Jul 3, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Nevermind Ill just buy it

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Hello

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I have a problem

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With Roblox (Windows 10 Store)

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Every time I open it it closes 2 seconds later (while it is about to start)

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Do you know why it happens?

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Please

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 3:09 PM

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https://twitter.com/Guerrilla/status/1279067624924745730

Guerrilla (@Guerrilla)

Explore a vibrant world inhabited by awe-inspiring machines in Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition for PC, coming to Steam and Epic Games Store on August 7th.

▶️ Watch our PC Features trailer here: https://t.co/BLYWML2J8h

#HorizonZeroDawnPC #BeyondTheHorizon

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£33

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wait 100GB?

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oof

autumn sluice Jul 3, 2020, 3:13 PM

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wow

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so this may sound weird but does it seem pc only games are somewhat smaller than their console counterparts? adn what i mean is it seems like pc exclusives are much smaller than console games close to them

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 3:22 PM

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that £33 will be less with the steam sale just now. £5 off purchases over £30. I don't pre order (would one consider HZD a pre order) often these days but I may make an exception to this game

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 3:31 PM

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100GB?

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Pretty sure it was way less on PS4

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 4:46 PM

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https://youtu.be/Y4St-fv53Q0

YouTube

Guerrilla

Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition for PC – PC Features Trailer

Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition for PC will be released on Steam and Epic Games Store on August 7, 2020.

Pre-order now!
Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1151640/Horizon_Zero_Dawn_Complete_Edition/
Epic Games Store: https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/hor...

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@smoky flame it's not on sale

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new titles don't go on sale during steam sales if they haven't released

civic vault Jul 3, 2020, 5:10 PM

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can anyone tell me how to play warzone on my pc without having to buy it ?

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I know that but there is £5 off first purchase during the sale (applied at checkout) and it can be used on HZD since it is £32.99

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full flint Jul 3, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Hmm cheap

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Looks at Death Stranding

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 5:24 PM

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lol ikr, that game is full price

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Though had I kept the £10 coupon Epic gave during their last sale I could have brought it down a fair bit. Might just wait for Epic's next... epic sale 😄

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 5:33 PM

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full list of pricing here
https://steamdb.info/app/1151640/

SteamDB

Horizon Zero Dawn · AppID: 1151640

Experience Aloy’s legendary quest to unravel the mysteries of a future Earth ruled by Machines. Use devastating tactical attacks against your prey and explore a majestic open world in this award-winning action RPG!
Horizon Zero Dawn Steam charts, data, update history.

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death stranding is also more or less brand new

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 5:37 PM

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there, bought HZD. Now just to wait for August 7th. Actually glad I never bought it when I owned a PS4. Was going to but it never happened. Now that it is on PC I have no reason to (though now I don't even have a PS4)

lusty oak Jul 3, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Ironically, I just bought it for PS4. 😁

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I find it funny you bought HZD given your concerns with DS

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absolutely hilarious

lusty oak Jul 3, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Huh?

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 5:49 PM

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they're both using Decima

lusty oak Jul 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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What's DS? Dark Souls?

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Death Stranding

lusty oak Jul 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Oh. Who has concerns with it? Sub?

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Yeah.

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I don't have concerns with the Decima engine

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 5:52 PM

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were you not tentative with how DS would run on PC...not even 3 days ago?

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Yeah, Death Stranding was my concern if anything

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 5:54 PM

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and you bought HZD

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which didn't support 60fps on PS4 pro because it broke the game

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 5:55 PM

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now that I didn't know, lol. Seems devs have fixed that for the PC release though. Mention of an unlocked framerate (which I hope means 60+ FPS)

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 5:55 PM

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you know who fixed it

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😏

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 5:56 PM

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who?

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 5:56 PM

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KojiPro

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Sony/Guerrilla gave KojiPro the engine for all he's done in the industry

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they make DS, and go to develop it for PC, so they rework the issues in the engine to allow the engine to work on PC at 60+

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and then gave it back to Guerrilla

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and then Guerrilla announced HZD for PC

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 5:59 PM

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That's pretty cool. May still get Death Stranding but now it will be a later purchase. Never said it was off the table

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I'm holding off on HZD since there's no preorder offer

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that, and I already bought DS for PC

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I'll have a month to complete that and wait until HZD releases

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something to bide time

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https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

Tenor

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time to 100% for the 3rd time

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 6:01 PM

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can't wait to see how HZD looks on my new monitor. As hyped for the new monitor as I've been hyped for the launch of HZD on PC rooHappy

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tbh, if I didn't go and buy a new monitor I probably would have bought Death Stranding. If the game turns out really good on PC I may still get it before this month is done. Failing that, HZD will keep me amused for long enough I'm sure until Epic's next sale with coupons comes about. Any reduction on it + the usual £10 coupon and it will be bought with zero hesitation

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Epic version of DS doesn't have the steam items

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https://tenor.com/view/key-and-peele-you-done-messed-up-gif-4908588

Tenor

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I'm not too bothered about some in game items. I'd rather wait and have the price drop a little then go for it

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even if it was to drop by say 20% in Epic's next sale that would bring the price down to £44, throw in one of those coupons and I could get it for £34

autumn sluice Jul 3, 2020, 6:13 PM

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ah yes the curse of my name

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 7:21 PM

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@smoky flame
this monitor?
https://youtu.be/d7ai4u8KrQs

YouTube

ShortCircuit

The First of Its Kind GAMING MONITOR! - Samsung G7 Odyssey

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I'm probably going to get an EVE Spectrum

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they are the same people that did the eve v right?

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yes

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https://evedevices.com/pages/full-specs

Eve

SPECTRUM FULL SPECS

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the 4k@144hz one. thanks Solenoid for telling me about it

sacred iron Jul 3, 2020, 7:34 PM

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wow

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 7:35 PM

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still only Vesa DisplayHDR 600 which sucks

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but the other features make up for it

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and it's IPS (Oxide)

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did anyone actually get the eve v
other than reviewers

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the people who crowdfunded it?

surreal moss Jul 3, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Acer just entered the 360hz scene apparently

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That’s three 360hz monitors that are coming out

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 7:42 PM

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TN?

surreal moss Jul 3, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Probably.

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Tn is crap but you can’t beat the speed ¯_(ツ)_/¯

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I mean really idk I got the chance of trying 144 and 240hz monitors and well I don't want more than 144 tbh. Idk 360 sounds extreme

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 7:45 PM

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that video from Linus confused me. "G7" in the title yet on the box he unboxed it was a G9, that is 1440p DQHD and HDR1000 with QLED and VA

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 7:46 PM

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he unboxed the G7

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the G9 is for tomorrow

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 7:46 PM

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oh, that explains it 😄

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 7:46 PM

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they sent him both

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 7:48 PM

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going to watch the review with sound this time to hear Linus' thoughts on my soon-to-be monitor, brb

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 7:52 PM

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shortcircuit is their unboxing channel
not really reviews
those usually go on the main channel

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yes, the review video will come later, as he states in the video

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 7:55 PM

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ahh, well so far I really like what I see of it. Got to love how Linus uses a Titan RTX with the monitor though 😄

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 7:55 PM

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146fps on Tomb Raider

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as expected

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I went with the 27 inch model of the monitor so I guess I'll get to see higher pixel density than what I'm used to currently with my 24 inch 1080p monitor?

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also, 1440p, 240Hz I'm about to make my 1080 Ti FE cry in some of the games I play 😄

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 7:59 PM

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you're most likely not going to hit that in a lot of games

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https://youtu.be/NXG5REBi2fo

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smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 8:14 PM

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I know that but it is there for the future. Had that in mind with this monitor. Expecting this monitor to last me quite a while.
Resolution higher than 1080p? Check
High refresh rate? Check - already had 144Hz so 240Hz will be considered an upgrade.
HDR support? Check - There for if I want to use it, heard HDR support on Windows 10 isn't too great at the moment though
oh and can't forget this will be my first monitor that isn't a TN + LED panel, rather VA + QLED

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By the time I'm looking for a new monitor I'll probably be looking at 4K, 240+ Hz, HDR and perhaps IPS and by that point those sorts of monitors should have got cheaper. Less than £1000 "cheap" anyway and again, such a monitor I'd expect to last me some time

sacred iron Jul 3, 2020, 8:19 PM

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https://youtu.be/NXG5REBi2fo
what the

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Higher resolution than 1080p but going to be passed by as the jump from FHD to UHD skips QHD entirely? Check

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I'm sure it'll last you a few years though

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QHD's really just for competitive players who want higher refresh rates but nicer pixel count so they can be more precise more quickly

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basically, as it stands now

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4k@120 for single player

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1080/1440p@240+ for comp

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the reason I say 120, is because really.....144hz just breaks too much

sacred iron Jul 3, 2020, 8:36 PM

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https://evedevices.com/pages/eve-v/ I like this

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might buy it

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 8:36 PM

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pretty sure the V is sold out

sacred iron Jul 3, 2020, 8:36 PM

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thank u Dark

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pretty sure the V is sold out
😦

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 8:37 PM

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I've not noticed many games break at 144Hz. Most notable ones that come to mind are Skyrim and Fallout games but they run on an old engine so it doesn't surprise me really

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 8:37 PM

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I'm not talking about physics

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I'm talking about the actual container itself

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a lot of games have screen tearing where they shouldn't at 144hz

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but not at 240hz

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or 120

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it's the incremental

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24/50/75/144 is just a really obscure standard

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144hz got big because it was the fastest for its time

sacred iron Jul 3, 2020, 8:38 PM

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eve

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 8:38 PM

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144hz is a part of the filmic standard

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120 is a part of the gaming/production standard

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that's why it skipped 190hz entirely

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it's unnecessary

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I always thought there was some meaning behind 144Hz. Sometimes I wondered why isn't it 120Hz or 180Hz instead? (Increments of 60 at play)

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 8:40 PM

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it was literally because it was the fastest for a while

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and became synonymous with being "bleeding edge"

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and then ofc, because competitive play needs the highest framerate possible for response times

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it became synonymous with better performance

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thus leading to our favorite catchphrase

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"Frames win games"

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even though it's not even remotely true

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because let's be real

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if u bad, then u bad

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those shoes won't make you run faster or jump higher

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 8:43 PM

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well yeah and no. Bad can still improve but needs the equipment to help improve. Give bad a 60Hz monitor when their friends all have lets say 240hz monitors and how on earth is bad going to compete?

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 8:44 PM

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give bad a 240hz monitor and they'll compete badly still

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give a good a 60 and they'll still be good

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I never said it wouldn't impact performance

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just that it's not going to "win your game"

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whether you win or lose is not decided by if you have RGB and a yellow racing stripe down the side

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 8:45 PM

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yeah, there is a lot more to winning. That I do know

sacred iron Jul 3, 2020, 8:48 PM

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i like eve-v

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 8:49 PM

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https://gfycat.com/limitedbigheartedarmadillo

Gfycat

2017-12-31 13-06-58

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sacred iron Jul 3, 2020, 8:50 PM

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what is your point?

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 8:51 PM

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referring to my earlier statement

smoky flame Jul 3, 2020, 8:52 PM

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refresh rate can play some part though, I think anyway. I've seen the comparisons between 60, 120 and 240Hz. Marketing or not the higher the refresh rate, the better one's timings may become and of course, the less latency one experiences too.
You shoot a moving target at each of the refresh rates I mentioned previous then slow it down and those gaming at 120Hz and 240Hz will be able to react a lot quicker than someone at 60Hz will. That 60Hz user may end up missing the target altogether or find themselves having to lead in early with shots to get a kill as opposed to 120Hz and 240Hz users

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Wasn't there some experiment featuring Linus and some esports/competitive guy a while back with 240Hz? I don't follow esports like I used to but I think the guy went by the name Shroud?

full flint Jul 3, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Linus already did the video

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the person that remained on 60 did consistently better at 60 than the other two

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not saying he outperformed them

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but he was consistent

full flint Jul 4, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Interesting thing is, should you not limit FPS in CS GO, game becomes smoother even on a 60hz monitor

Can swear I don't remember any other game like that

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Those “tests/experiments” will never yield the true results of the same person playing consistently on 60 vs consistently on 240. It takes time to adjust to things like not having to compensate for 60, or to take advantage of 240

full flint Jul 4, 2020, 4:25 AM

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yep

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but they were time limited admittedly, so the test wasn't all too bad for what data they did pull

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I'd like to see a fully fleshed out study happen though

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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All you need to know, is your time between frames goes from 16.67 to 4.17. Everything you do, feel, and experience gets faster.

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The only time you won’t benefit from it, is if your gaming skills are too underdeveloped to take advantage of it

autumn sluice Jul 4, 2020, 6:52 AM

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tbf im reacting better at 60 than 30

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 7:25 AM

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A good monitor will not make you good, but it is a crucial part to building a competitive ecosystem. No single product will drastically improve your play, but building a good setup will.

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My 240hz monitor didn’t make me good. My 240hz monitor combined with me running my GPU in ultra low latency mode, buying a <60g mouse, bypassing the in-game FPS limit, spending hours aim training my entire arm, and learning to play on super low sensitivities did.

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But the single greatest piece is your mentality. There’s always a bullet you shouldn’t have missed. Always a decision you could have made better.

full flint Jul 4, 2020, 7:31 AM

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I hate super low sensitivities it's just tooooo fast.

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 7:32 AM

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If you play with a passionate yet hypercritical mindset, you’ll improve regardless of your peripherals

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Too fast?

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You mean too slow?

full flint Jul 4, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Ah misread that part sorry

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How do u tolerate such slowness tho

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Move your arm faster

torpid dune Jul 4, 2020, 8:19 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/187017643448991745/187020781094567936/728860186747338822

smoky flame Jul 4, 2020, 10:03 AM

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currently I don't game on PC with a keyboard and mouse. Still using controller but how's 800 DPI on the mouse sound? Also have a 400 "sniper" DPI toggle that I rarely ever touch. Oh and on the subject of DPI, will I have to increase it any when I move up to 1440p?

autumn sluice Jul 4, 2020, 11:55 AM

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defo upgrading my mobo and case. didnt realize i bought a microcase. looking for a mid sized tower

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recommendations?

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Cougar mx330

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There’s also an mx330-g if you want glass, and a mx330-X if you want to be able to put up to a 200mm fan on the front side panel

autumn sluice Jul 4, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Perfect thanks. Thoughts about a Mobo?

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 5:16 PM

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What cpu

autumn sluice Jul 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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R5 2600

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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What form factor do you need

autumn sluice Jul 4, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Uh mid tower?

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Your motherboard form factor

autumn sluice Jul 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Oh uh idk? Don't really know much about that tbh

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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In that case just get a asus b450-f

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Better to buy a full ATX than buy something smaller and regret it

autumn sluice Jul 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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So what do u mean by form factor? Like how big the Mobo itself is?

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Yeah. But you should be fine with a full atx in there

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Motherboards come in all sorts of sizes

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ATX, EATX, Micro ATX (MATX) and Mini ITX (ITX) are the 4 most common

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EATX is the biggest board you’ll find in normal gaming CPUs. XL ATX is the only for the Xeon/threadripper processors

autumn sluice Jul 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Ok thanks

full flint Jul 4, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Can anyone recommend me a budget pc to run most Game pass games and maybe some CoD?

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 11:03 PM

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What’s your budget

full flint Jul 4, 2020, 11:05 PM

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£800

surreal moss Jul 4, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Thousand buckaroos cool

open belfry Jul 5, 2020, 2:28 AM

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https://www.logicalincrements.com/

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This site is a good guide, keep in mind this is the price of the tower, you still have to factor in mouse, keyboard, monitor and W10 (if you don't have them)

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Alternatively, if you want real budget pc, it's not a bad idea to find a buisness selling old computer, stick a solid state and a graphics card in it and badabang badaboom

smoky flame Jul 5, 2020, 10:44 AM

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I'm surprised that site wasn't recommending 3990X, 128GB ram and 2x Titan RTX at the "monstrous" tier

full flint Jul 5, 2020, 10:45 AM

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Titan RTX don't have NVLINK capabilities for normal users

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it's like...really obnoxious to set up

smoky flame Jul 5, 2020, 10:54 AM

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with that sort of build I mentioned I doubt a normal user would be making use of it. Would be a £10,000+ build. CPU and GPUs coming to something like 9K themselves

tribal pilot Jul 5, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Bought a sound bar for my pc works great only problem is I have to mount it to the wall behind the screen.

full flint Jul 5, 2020, 3:52 PM

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i need help on which game to get should i get Rust which is $20, Raft which is $14 or Arma 3 which is $9

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have you ever played an ARMA game?

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nope

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I'd go with rust first then

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Ok thanks

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ARMA is a sim-style game

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so you'll be learning quite a few commands and button assignments to play effectively

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that being said, it's something you can learn. so up to you

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Yea

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I’m trying to rake advantage of steams summer sale

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Ultimately if you can swing multiple then go for Rust and ARMA

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ok

full flint Jul 5, 2020, 5:47 PM

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https://youtu.be/Xl2cr62HlR0

surreal moss Jul 6, 2020, 12:04 AM

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2 years and so much money I just stopped keeping track

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worldly ravine Jul 6, 2020, 12:05 AM

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With that amount of RGB it's so asthetically pleasing

autumn sluice Jul 6, 2020, 1:54 AM

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This man affording multiple PC's

surreal moss Jul 6, 2020, 2:04 AM

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More like this man could have replaced his car from 2007 instead but no ragrets

full flint Jul 6, 2020, 5:48 AM

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You can't hide this pain harold

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surreal moss Jul 6, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Pain

full flint Jul 6, 2020, 5:49 AM

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you finally got some diffusers for the RGB strips though?

surreal moss Jul 6, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Nope lmao

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Lazy

full flint Jul 6, 2020, 5:50 AM

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lol

full flint Jul 6, 2020, 10:39 AM

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@smoky flame oh, nvm. Looks like they amended the Death Stranding page to refer to the Extended Soundtrack, Artbook Sections, and Chiral gold & Silver to be a part of the "Day One" copies. instead of just general purchase down the line

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tribal pilot Jul 6, 2020, 11:08 AM

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late post but cool looking pcs XLR.

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Tried to do a 1000 person battle on mount and blade bannerlord 2 and Got about 10 fps.

plucky marsh Jul 6, 2020, 11:13 AM

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Looks good, but I am disappointed his hat isn't RGB 😔

full flint Jul 6, 2020, 11:14 AM

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LOL

tribal pilot Jul 6, 2020, 11:14 AM

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They sell those actually

full flint Jul 6, 2020, 11:14 AM

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good ol' Bannerlord.

tribal pilot Jul 6, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Ill stick with 500 people for now. I was dreaming when I set it to a 1k.

full flint Jul 6, 2020, 11:15 AM

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wait until Serious Sam 4

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then you can jack it up to 10,000 lol

tribal pilot Jul 6, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Pretty sure my pc would explode.

full flint Jul 6, 2020, 11:18 AM

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nah, it'll be easier to run since they're engineering it around that

tribal pilot Jul 6, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Trying to play Bannerlord with a controller and its not going so good going to have to stop being lazy and use the mouse and keyboard.

full flint Jul 6, 2020, 3:13 PM

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no

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no violations of TOS will be discussed here

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don't ask again @mighty hemlock

full flint Jul 6, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Don't forget to log in with your Uplay account anytime after Trackmania and before the end of the main show to claim a free copy of Watch Dogs 2 on PC, and to get a chance to answer trivia questions and win some rewards for a variety of Ubisoft titles.

autumn sluice Jul 6, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Bruh

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Ty dark

surreal moss Jul 7, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Should share I got this

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1TB 970 evo pro with a huge heatsink

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 12:43 AM

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that looks huge. Do NVMe really need a heatsink?

lament cipher Jul 7, 2020, 12:50 AM

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not all of them, but I get the impression it's getting close

latent yarrow Jul 7, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Some faster ssd’s produce a lot of heat

lament cipher Jul 7, 2020, 12:51 AM

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my office PC has a riser card for holding 4 NVMe SSDs and it has a fan on it etc... maybe with that many together there's a problem with it

surreal moss Jul 7, 2020, 12:53 AM

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When under sustained write they can generate some real heat and throttle

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SSDs will throttle much earlier than your other components. 60°C is considered too hot.

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Makes a difference too

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This is 1 hour idle. Even at low temps it makes a difference (doesn’t matter at low temps of course)

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smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 12:55 AM

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I'll keep that in mind when I get an NVMe. How are they as boot + program + game drive? Thinking of going NVMe (pcie 4.0) only when I get a chance. 2TB, if it isn't too pricey

surreal moss Jul 7, 2020, 12:56 AM

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They’re great for everything

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Just don’t fill it up the whole way

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Leave like 10-20% empty to maintain good performance

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 12:57 AM

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I've yet to fill up the storage I have just now. 250GB Crucial MX200 SSD I use for OS and programs and a 2TB Western Digital Black I use for games

full flint Jul 7, 2020, 12:59 AM

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is an amd ryzen 3 good for gaming

surreal moss Jul 7, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Well considering there are 8 different ryzen 3 processors I don’t know

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3300x? Sure. 1200? It’ll work but you’re gonna suffer

lament cipher Jul 7, 2020, 1:23 AM

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2 TB PCIe 3.0 drives are pretty reasonable. 4.0, probably going to cost a fair bit more, but it depends on your budget

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I recently got a 3.0 card for a little over $200

autumn sluice Jul 7, 2020, 1:26 AM

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horizon zero dawn price went up to match epic on steam

surreal moss Jul 7, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Look at that difference in write speed. That’s the plus version + the heatsink keeping the speeds higher due to low temp

thorny cypress Jul 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Interesting, my 970 EVO 2TB has 2342 for the write speed with just the mobo heat sink

surreal moss Jul 7, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Top one is completely unshielded

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Combined with the fact that the case also has just ok airflow because of the front mounted radiator, which keeps the cpu down a couple more degrees than if I mounted it on the top like everyone else

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That’s why the speeds are so different

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This is the result right after running a benchmark. 1 TB was at 46°

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thorny cypress Jul 7, 2020, 2:51 AM

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mine right after benchmarking 🙂

surreal moss Jul 7, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Nice! Got it down to 58 once I actually turned my fans up

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I’m only concerned about heat on the 1TB because that will be my OBS drive (or is now I guess)

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Gonna make sure it stays cool under hours of sustained use

full flint Jul 7, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Hey so I recently got a pc after playing console my whole life, other than grinding any tips on how to get use yo mouse and keyboard

lusty oak Jul 7, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Typically not a good idea to grind your mouse or your keyboard. 😛

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Sorry, I couldn't resist.

surreal moss Jul 7, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Get those thin little foam pieces you can stick to your key caps. Helped me tremendously with learning to properly return my fingers to the proper WASD keys

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I still use them to this day

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Biggest piece of advice honestly, never take your middle finger off of the W key. Learn to just move your hand and rotate it around that key.

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Will yield very consistent results and that’s how most pros train now

full flint Jul 7, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Thank you

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 11:00 AM

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that's pretty awesome advice, XLR8. I might even follow it. Now that I have a desk and feel 10 times more comfortable than I ever have done I could see myself getting used to keyboard and mouse more often. So much so my days using a controller may be numbered

plucky marsh Jul 7, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I naturally do that anyway I think just by playing mostly keyboard. I'd like to continue with keyboard and mouse if next gen support it. It's so much better than using a controller in my opinion

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 1:30 PM

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I prefer controllers for single player games

plucky marsh Jul 7, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Pretty much most of the games I play are shooters so I always have preferred keyboard and mouse. I don't mind using controllers for other stuff though

hot seal Jul 7, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Halo 3 confirmed for July 14th

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I always use KBM for competitive online games

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But i like to kick back and relax with my controller when i play games like Batman Arkham

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 1:36 PM

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I've been used to controllers since I was 6 years old. Keyboard and mouse seems pretty complicated with all the keys and stuff but much like learning how a controller worked back when I was younger I think I can pick up keyboard and mouse gaming pretty quick. Only thing I need to make sure I keep in mind is some games need quite a bit more finer tuning to get sensitivity values to what I may like and it may take some time finding these values and getting used to them vs what I was used to with a controller

plucky marsh Jul 7, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Depending on how you like it, I have my thumb work for c (crouch) and space (jump), my pinkie for shift (sprint) ctrl (crouch/prone) caps lock (map)

Then ring finger for stuff like a, q, pointer for e, r, T if necessary. Middle finger is glued to W lol

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 1:47 PM

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I've been used to controllers since I was 6 years old. Keyboard and mouse seems pretty complicated with all the keys and stuff but much like learning how a controller worked back when I was younger I think I can pick up keyboard and mouse gaming pretty quick. Only thing I need to make sure I keep in mind is some games need quite a bit more finer tuning to get sensitivity values to what I may like and it may take some time finding these values and getting used to them vs what I was used to with a controller
@smoky flame KBM is pretty easy to get used to imo

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You never use even half the buttons on your keyboard for most games

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 1:47 PM

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yeah, Albzi. That's sort of how I have my fingers positioned on the keyboard already. Just getting used to it all will take me a while. Think I need to find a way to get used to it and resist the urge to use a controller so often.
Wonder if going keyboard and mouse is similar to 60hz vs 144hz. People often say once you go 144hz you never go back sort of thing

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 1:47 PM

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It's always WASD, C, Space, LShift, and LCtrl

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Also Tab

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yeah, Albzi. That's sort of how I have my fingers positioned on the keyboard already. Just getting used to it all will take me a while. Think I need to find a way to get used to it and resist the urge to use a controller so often.
Wonder if going keyboard and mouse is similar to 60hz vs 144hz. People often say once you go 144hz you never go back sort of thing
@smoky flame 144hz is leagues above 60hz

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When i first got my 144hz monitor i was like "wow 144hz is amazing" and spent a good few minutes just dragging my cursor over the screen and running back and forth in minecraft

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But at first i thought "60 is still fine though"

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But eventually 60 started to feel laggy

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I'll be on 240Hz soontm

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 1:49 PM

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As i got more used to 144hz

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Now i have all my settings lowered to get a stable 144 fps and if it drops to even 90 it feels laggy and is instantly noticeable

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 1:52 PM

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I don't target 144 FPS. Though with the hardware I have I could likely achieve that with my current monitor pretty easily. Though 1440p 240Hz on my new monitor will be a whole different kettle of fish but I had future upgrades in mind with such a monitor

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 1:55 PM

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The only affordable 1440p 240hz monitor i know of is the Omen X 27

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And the Omen X 27 has a TN panel

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Got the new Samsung Odyssey G7 ordered about two weeks ago. Just waiting for it to arrive

worldly ravine Jul 7, 2020, 1:56 PM

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👀

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Sub-zero don't unbox it like Linus

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 1:56 PM

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That monitor is $800

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 1:57 PM

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I got it for 450 (the 27 inch model)

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 1:58 PM

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oh, you got the 27 inch

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wait the 27 inch is $700

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 2:00 PM

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meant to put British pounds sign in but for some reason my keyboard isn't letting me do it

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 2:00 PM

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wow, 1440p 240hz, QLED, 1ms, RGB, HDR, G Sync Premium Pro and a curved screen

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for only 700 dollars

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that is a major steal

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there has to be a catch

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 2:03 PM

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VA is the catch. Heard quite a few people grumble on about VA panels. Chance of dead pixels etc. Fingers crossed my monitor has none. I trust Samsung can deliver a working product

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 2:03 PM

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VA is still better than TN

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this is making me want to return my monitor and get the G7

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 2:06 PM

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yeah, will be only my third monitor I've owned since getting into PC gaming. Started off with some console 60Hz TN monitor (BenQ RL2455HM), now I have a 144Hz TN (Asus PG248Q) in all honesty if it wasn't for my brother's monitor (my old BenQ) looking like it is on its way out I probably wouldn't have bothered buying a new monitor but I'm glad I have done

plucky marsh Jul 7, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I want a new monitor for next gen but am going to stick with my 4k60 BenQ for now as not long had that

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Not too fussed about framerates atm as never had anything above 60 anyway

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 2:07 PM

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https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27GL850-B-gaming-monitor

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thats my monitor ^

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@smoky flame what are your specs? surely you know you wont be getting 240 fps at 1440p in most modern AAA games

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 2:10 PM

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i7-6700K, 16GB ram and a 1080 Ti FE. That is all subject to change in the year(s) ahead. Months even

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 2:10 PM

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why are you getting 240hz if you only have a 1080 Ti

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 2:13 PM

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as I said, I'm planning ahead. This new monitor should last me multiple upgrades. Skipping the 20 series as I don't think it is worth the money. May consider 30 series or give AMD a go. If I give AMD a go I get some extra features with freesync premium pro over gsync compatible with an nvidia GPU

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 2:13 PM

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nah, get a nvidia GPU

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i hear AMD GPUs have bad drivers

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plus Nvidia has that DLSS raytracing stuff

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 2:14 PM

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ray tracing won't be exclusive to Nvidia for too much longer

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 2:15 PM

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IIRC AMD does have hardware accelerated ray tracing

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but its not as good as Nvidia's

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although ray tracing isnt worth it in competitive games like CoD where you should be focusing more on FPS

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 2:20 PM

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I don't think I'll be touching ray tracing until the performance impact it brings can be reduced. That's likely not happening for some time. Progress will be made generation by generation with both AMD and Nvidia no doubt but with progress comes new features that will probably turn out more demanding than previous implementations

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 2:27 PM

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i dont think i even use ray tracing for anything

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i use it for minecraft but thats it

smoky flame Jul 7, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I can't be too bad with keyboard and mouse. Just cleared a heroic control point in The Division 2 solo

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 5:03 PM

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i play better with KBM than i do on controller when it comes to FPS

misty verge Jul 7, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I think kbm are The best devices for fps

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 5:53 PM

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same

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but some people perform better with a controller

misty verge Jul 7, 2020, 6:01 PM

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It's true, I agree

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 7:10 PM

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@misty verge i personally prefer controllers for single player games but for competitive online games i use KBM

misty verge Jul 7, 2020, 7:38 PM

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There até games that use controllers very Nice, but in general I think kbm are most accurate

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On Xbox I use only controllers but in PC always kbm

tribal pilot Jul 7, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I use controller for everything on PC. I just cant get into keyboard mouse unless its a top down view strategy game.

main pasture Jul 7, 2020, 9:43 PM

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There até games that use controllers very Nice, but in general I think kbm are most accurate
@misty verge its not always about whats most accurate

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with a controller i can kick back and relax without slouching over my PC

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plus a controller is more comfortable to use in general

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thats why for casual games where the most possible precision doesnt really matter, i prefer controller

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and for competitive games like CoD and DbD, i use KBM

misty verge Jul 8, 2020, 1:15 AM

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You're right

plucky marsh Jul 8, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Looking at a new monitor for next gen, I'm pretty sure this one is fine, but I don't know if anyone is aware of other or better alternatives? Looking at the 4k option

https://evedevices.com/pages/spectrum

Eve

Spectrum new

ruby spear Jul 8, 2020, 11:37 AM

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I've been keeping my eye on these as well. Shame they're not out yet.

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I can't find any other monitors that support the necessary HDMI for 120fps, 4K and HDR.

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I just don't want to put down a deposit on something not yet available with no reviews, but they're also saying the price goes up later on.

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Hmm, they're claiming HDR10 on those monitors, but then the specs show they're using 8-bit + FRC

plucky marsh Jul 8, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Yeah I'm iffy about putting a deposit down now too.

Ah I read up on the difference between 8-bit + FRC and 10, and most people said you can't tell a difference. So I wasn't too worried. But thanks for pointing that out in case that information is true!

ruby spear Jul 8, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Looking up info on it and this has put me off putting down a deposit completely -

"Now, we would always caution against pre-ordering either games or hardware, until you know exactly what you're getting. But the deposit is stated as fully refundable… which would be 100% if Eve didn't have a troubled history on its last crowd-designed product, the Eve V.

That was billed as the Microsoft Surface killer, had a great specs list, but was seemingly delayed to the point where it started shipping once the next-gen Surface had arrived making it seem a little last-gen. To compound that one of the companies licensed to sell the tablet, Fortress Tech Distribution Ltd, which operated the direct web store ran into major problems, didn't deliver devices and refused refunds. That's lead to a lot of ill-feeling across certain parts of the community.

But Eve has again promised those issues are a thing of the past."

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https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/eve-spectrum-gaming-monitor-hdmi-2-1/

pcgamer

The Eve Spectrum gaming monitor is specced out for next-gen AMD and...

As one of the first to sport HDMI 2.1 connectivity, the Spectrum enables "Adaptive Sync on next-gen Nvidia over HDMI"

plucky marsh Jul 8, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Hmm, I think I'll give that one a miss then and look for an alternative. Thanks for finding that bit of info, didn't realise about their other stuff

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My friend got an email to say it's been pushed back to April next year anyway it turns out

smoky flame Jul 8, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I thought 8bit + FRC was one of the only ways to get high frame rates with stability? True 10 bit likely only to be found on TVs and 60Hz monitors (where FRC probably doesn't matter). Even my new Samsung monitor is 8 bit + FRC I believe

ruby spear Jul 8, 2020, 1:05 PM

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I just hate how mixed up the HDR terminology is. It's really misleading for people who don't put in loads of research to learn the different terminology, the specific names that certain brands use instead of a standard name. It's a real mess.

smoky flame Jul 8, 2020, 1:07 PM

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better than it likely was before DisplayHDR came along. Unless you happen to be buying one of those pre-DisplayHDR TVs or monitors

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Speaking of HDR. When it says peak brightness can reach up to 600 cd/m2 does that mean if I want to use HDR I have to subject my eyes to that sort of brightness for the optimal HDR viewing experience?

main pasture Jul 8, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Looking at a new monitor for next gen, I'm pretty sure this one is fine, but I don't know if anyone is aware of other or better alternatives? Looking at the 4k option

https://evedevices.com/pages/spectrum
@plucky marsh that monitor looks sketchy af, and even if it was completely real, 4k 144hz is absolute major overkill if it's just for a XSX

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Plus 27" is not good pixel density for 4k

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And in case it nedds to be said again, don't place a deposit on that scam

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All of the reputable 4k 144hz monitors on the market are over a thousand dollars

hot seal Jul 8, 2020, 3:44 PM

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https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-07-08-uplay-plus-free-trial

Eurogamer.net

You can now try Ubisoft's subscription service Uplay+ for free for ...

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new and returning subs

smoky flame Jul 8, 2020, 4:01 PM

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unbeatable value if one loves Ubisoft games. Somewhat on the fence about getting uplay+ since I already have so much of the games and content though it will come in useful when AC Valhalla and Watch Dogs Legion launches

full flint Jul 8, 2020, 4:20 PM

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@main pasture it's only slightly higher than optimal pixel density for 4k

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you aren't going to find many 37" computer monitors for 4k

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the Eve V ended up actually being a decently alright product though

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https://www.cnet.com/reviews/eve-v-review/
https://www.techspot.com/products/tablets/eve-v.176462/

CNET

This Surface Pro killer compromises on performance

Crowdsourced ideas can sometimes work out really well.

TechSpot

Eve V

Eve V reviews, pros and cons. Liked: Blistering performance Clean, aluminum design Disliked: No GPS, NFC or LTE

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they had distribution issues which is ultimately common with Crowdfunded tech nowadays sadly

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it's stronger than surface pro, but a bit weaker than some competition

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a good example

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F(x)tec pro

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it got delayed 3 times due to missing their standards and distribution

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so I wouldn't call it a scam by any means, and it's an LG display, so it's not going to end up being processor-based performance issues,

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All of the reputable 4k 144hz monitors on the market are over a thousand dollars
@main pasture all of the first 4k@144hz are over $1000, they also are designed for "Gamers" including pointless bullcrap like RGB or 'game modes' , with rather...ugly aesthetics

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this display's VesaDisplayHDR600 HDR10 so it's better than some of those, but not better than others

sacred iron Jul 8, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Which is better serface or eve?

full flint Jul 8, 2020, 4:34 PM

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ipad

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I'll just be frank

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if you're going for art, the ipad will be better

sacred iron Jul 8, 2020, 4:42 PM

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need to thinkingchief a bit before I get it

full flint Jul 8, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I'll probably pick a couple up

plucky marsh Jul 8, 2020, 4:51 PM

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So are you saying Dark that it may end up being a decent monitor?

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For that price point and an April release, is it worth it? Or would you suggest waiting still?

full flint Jul 8, 2020, 4:52 PM

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the price-change is the biggest issue I see. cause it'll likely be decent quality at, if not close, to spec

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their hardware's quality is fairly solid though

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and they're using LG panels

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with a MME design

surreal moss Jul 8, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Got a new keyboard today

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Ducky one 2 mini mecha v2 with silent red

lusty oak Jul 8, 2020, 6:43 PM

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I have more gaming keyboards than I know what to do with.

surreal moss Jul 8, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Also put some pudding keycaps on it

full flint Jul 8, 2020, 6:43 PM

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it's so SMOL

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aaAAA

surreal moss Jul 8, 2020, 6:43 PM

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60% gang

lusty oak Jul 8, 2020, 6:43 PM

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I have a Razer Black Widow Tournament Edition that's the same size.

full flint Jul 8, 2020, 6:44 PM

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I just meant even for the section of keys

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that is just

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tiny

surreal moss Jul 8, 2020, 6:45 PM

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plucky marsh Jul 8, 2020, 6:53 PM

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So you not find RGB distracting when you're playing games?

full flint Jul 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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that much? yeah.

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I do, personally

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well, not distracting, but obnoxious

fleet orbit Jul 8, 2020, 7:11 PM

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I need to use my Ducky keyboard more often, thanks for the passive reminder!

full flint Jul 8, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Death Stranding is 4k@60 capable with an RTX 2060

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figured I'd let you all know

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likely utilizing DLSS

surreal moss Jul 8, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I don’t run it that fast. I run the rainbow effect on the slowest speed possible

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It’s very easy for my eyes to just ignore it when it’s moving slowly

tiny elm Jul 8, 2020, 9:13 PM

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pc gaming seems too expensive

smoky flame Jul 8, 2020, 9:18 PM

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it isn't all that bad.
Short term people may spend a lot on new hardware but depending on how good that hardware is it can last quite some time. Long enough to save up and upgrade and that leads into long term thinking.
No one needs to go out and buy every new CPU or GPU that launches year by year. They would be silly to do so and wasting their money for small, incremental increases that over a longer period of time (every 3-4 years) look far more significant

open belfry Jul 8, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Hobbyest makes it seem more expensive than it really is imo

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If you already have a W10 License, Keyboard, Mouse and Monitor, you can build a decent tower for around $700-800, More expensive than a console but not drastically if you subtract the cost of paying online every year. If you assume you build it at the beginning of the generation, most of your parts will be fine with the only exception being a graphics card which you may want to upgrade mid generation.

tribal pilot Jul 9, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Back to playing Assassins creed odyssey. Only played the game for 20 hours and got side tracked. Forgot how good looking the game looks on pc.

main pasture Jul 9, 2020, 5:29 AM

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pc gaming seems too expensive
@tiny elm not really. you can build a decent PC for $500 and you can build a low end but still useable one for $350. You dont need to upgrade every year either, you can just upgrade once every 3-5 years if you want, same as consoles do. Plus with PC you dont have to pay for an online subscription

dawn pawn Jul 9, 2020, 9:19 AM

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Hello, I'm looking for a PC game with: good graphics ( i have rtx 2060), long playtime ( about 500-800 hour),

full flint Jul 9, 2020, 9:47 AM

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None of single player PC games can provide you such amount of playtime unless it's sandbox and/or strategy

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Look MMORPG'S

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I'd say Skyrim though, I've heard it has many mods

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-insert comment about aged engine here-

main pasture Jul 9, 2020, 10:53 AM

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Hello, I'm looking for a PC game with: good graphics ( i have rtx 2060), long playtime ( about 500-800 hour),
@dawn pawn try a FPS like Modern warfare or R6S

mystic crypt Jul 9, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Or warframe

smoky flame Jul 9, 2020, 1:11 PM

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that's me built my new monitor. Curve is a bit odd to my eyes just now but omg it is nice!

worldly ravine Jul 9, 2020, 6:50 PM

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#233805809346150400 @hasty osprey

tribal pilot Jul 9, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Should I try fallout 76 on pc? Tried it on ps4 and it crashed my ps4 so hard it took a day for it to come back on.

worn geyser Jul 9, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I actually prefer it on PC, it looks better too. @tribal pilot

main pasture Jul 10, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Should I try fallout 76 on pc? Tried it on ps4 and it crashed my ps4 so hard it took a day for it to come back on.
@tribal pilot why would you want to try one of the most hated games in videogame history?

full flint Jul 10, 2020, 2:47 AM

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it's far from the most hated

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not even top-10

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and most entry level PC are $700-$800 now

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PC gaming now is not what it was 7 years ago

full flint Jul 10, 2020, 3:38 AM

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@smoky flame https://youtu.be/burNkdZG0Bs

YouTube

ShortCircuit

Nothing else is even close - Samsung Odyssey G9 Monitor

Thanks to Samsung for sponsoring today's video! Check out the Odyssey G9 Monitor at https://bit.ly/3f6zvV3 or the rest of the Odyssey Line Up at https://bit.ly/38ym11E

The Samsung G9 Odyssey is something exciting, and currently, nothing comes anywhere close to the performance...

▶ Play video

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he got around to the G9

smoky flame Jul 10, 2020, 3:40 AM

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ooh nice. Will watch it later

full flint Jul 10, 2020, 5:11 AM

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d

autumn sluice Jul 10, 2020, 5:14 AM

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https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-rtx-3050-ga106-ga107-ampere-gaming-gpu-specs-rumor/amp/

Wccftech

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 3060 GA106 & GeForce RTX 3050 GA107 Graphics C...

Alleged specifications of NVIDIA's next-gen GeForce RTX 3060 & RTX 3050 graphics cards with Ampere Gaming GA106/GA107 GPUs have been detailed.

full flint Jul 10, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Interesting isn't it.

📎 2bfba95-2.jpg

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A continious image appear when you put these together

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it also gets larger the stronger the series is

heavy marsh Jul 10, 2020, 2:16 PM

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intel big levels here

tribal pilot Jul 10, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Gotta collect them all! Wait I can’t afford that never mind. But I would if I could.

full flint Jul 10, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Like, if I were billionarie

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I'd buy myself a house with a big depot

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And mess with all technological stuff

tribal pilot Jul 10, 2020, 2:21 PM

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It would be pc simulator in real life!!!

full flint Jul 10, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Lol

uncut trail Jul 10, 2020, 2:41 PM

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can i have one

full flint Jul 10, 2020, 2:53 PM

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yes, thank you nvidia, very cool.

📎 ss_2020-07-10_at_10.51.27.png

heavy marsh Jul 10, 2020, 2:54 PM

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well thats a tough decision

full flint Jul 10, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Where do I apply 😛

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Looking at the part where someone said an 'entry level' PC is $800 and they aren't wrong but that feel when you realise you've never had anything beyond an entry level PC.

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I'm hoping to build a new PC soon, but sigh it will just be entry level all over again.

heavy marsh Jul 10, 2020, 4:33 PM

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i wouldnt say an entry is 800

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You can play almost all modern games for around 400-500 on low settings.

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(USD, pre-covid)

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I’d say $800 is entry level for an enthusiast

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$400-600 is like you just want the cheapest ugliest thing that can run games

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 4:39 PM

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You folks feel like offering build advice?

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I've got a rough idea what I should buy, would love to hear if you know whether it will be OK.

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Sure

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I'm looking at something similar to this?

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vK9QJb

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I'm not even hoping to run the cutting edge, I'm hoping to run games from maybe a year ago with medium or better - my current rig runs them badly on low.

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1200P resolution is desired.

smoky flame Jul 10, 2020, 4:46 PM

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I think you could probably get away with dropping the CPU down to a 3300X. Saves a little bit of money that you can put into the GPU to go for something a little nicer

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 4:47 PM

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It's an interesting point. I personally have no idea whether CPU or GPU is the bigger bottleneck in games I wanna play, right now it's both cause my system is old 😛

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 4:47 PM

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1200p?

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Why

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 4:47 PM

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And I realise that PSU may be overspecified.

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Because I have a really nice 1200p monitor.

smoky flame Jul 10, 2020, 4:48 PM

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seems the 3300X is out of stock. Normal price is around £120 but pcpartpicker is showing one from overclockersUK for £160

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I just threw in a PSU at a glance, didn't realise maybe it's a bit overkill.

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 4:49 PM

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When are you buying all these

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 4:50 PM

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TBH it might not be for another couple of months, but... no more than that?

smoky flame Jul 10, 2020, 4:50 PM

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might be worth putting those plans on hold

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Oh right? What happens soon?

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Zen 3

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I can probably get by on this old box for a while. It was specced nicely when I got it, and I'm lucky enough that it still kinda runs every single game I tried.

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(At 30 FPS. On Low. D:)

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My current box is a Haswell i5 4670K (@3.8GHz) and a GTX 770.

smoky flame Jul 10, 2020, 4:54 PM

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I was going to suggest a system with a 3300X and a 5600 XT. Should perform better than the system you posted for a similar sort of price

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I'll make a note to consider those. I've never had a Radeon GPU before. Always been a nVidia fanboy. 😛

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Help I need to learn a whole new settings menu this is the worst thing ever.

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 4:57 PM

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The reality is you’ll probably snag a zen 3 cpu that’s more powerful at the same price

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Also for $80 you could have a 2060

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Huh. See, I can't claim that I understand these things but I would have assumed the new architecture would be super-expensive at first.

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Not really.

smoky flame Jul 10, 2020, 5:05 PM

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most of the 2060 SUPER cost a fair bit more than the 5600 XT. Looking at over £100 more and that is 5700 XT territory

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Most part manufacturers have figured out that that due to competition they can’t just keep increasing prices

smoky flame Jul 10, 2020, 5:06 PM

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=446,484&sort=price&page=1

Choose A Video Card

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 5:07 PM

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TBH I kinda think of the 2060 and above as for gamers looking for 4k, RTX, HDR, fancy things that... I just don't really want. Is that wrong?

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 5:08 PM

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You’re right and wrong

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2060= 1440p60
2070=1440p120+
2080= 4k60
2080ti=4k120+
This is a general rule of thumb

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Mhmm.

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 5:10 PM

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If you try 4k60 high on a 2060 it’s not gonna work

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I'm gonna be pretty satisfied with modest performance, because I play a lot of games which aren't too new.

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The newest thing I'm even considering playing is AC Odyssey at the moment.

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I've been playing Origins on my existing machine, and it's really no good.

smoky flame Jul 10, 2020, 5:11 PM

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AC Odyssey is a mess in terms of performance. Be sure not to put all the settings to max

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 5:12 PM

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I really only recommend 1650/1660 models for people on a very tight budget

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Worth considering.

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 5:12 PM

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They’re designed for 1080p gaming

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 5:12 PM

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A 2060 that isn't the Super doesn't push the price too far.

full flint Jul 10, 2020, 5:13 PM

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not worth extra cost this late in the game

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 5:13 PM

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You’re gonna see anywhere from 10-30% better performance depending on the game.

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New cards are coming out in the fall, but they won’t release the 3060 till months after

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Looking at the IO plate on these cards, what is that, 1 HDMI and 3 display port?

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Can I hook display port to a HDMI / DVI monitor, or is that gonna be an issue?

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 5:15 PM

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There are adapter cables for DP to HDMI

smoky flame Jul 10, 2020, 5:16 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_FLPncFdvA Here's some idea of how a system with the 3300X and 5600 XT performs. Only difference is you mentioned you have a 1200p monitor and this is all 1080p I believe so have to take into account some FPS loss for that higher resolution

YouTube

FPS TEST

RYZEN 3 3300X RX 5600 XT - TEST IN 32 GAMES

00:00 FORZA HORIZON 4
01:21 AC ORIGINS
03:00 AC ODYSSEY
04:30 APEX LEGENDS
06:00 BATTLEFIELD 1
07:30 BATTLEFIELD 5
09:00 BORDERLANDS 3
10:30 GHOST RECON BREAKPOINT
12:00 CONTROL
13:30 CSGO
15:00 THE DIVISION
16:30 THE DI...

▶ Play video

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Cause at the moment I have two monitors, both have HDMI

surreal moss Jul 10, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Again, adapter cables

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Yeah, but at the same time I really don't object to dropping the quality settings to compensate.

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Looking at the first test there, he's getting 100 FPS in FH4 on ULTRA, I think I can probably squeeze 60 out of it without dropping settings much if at all.

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Yeah, this looks like a good enough spec for my tastes.

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Though I notice that (you said it's a mess) AC still gets a sub-60 min-FPS, which is no problem if the average is nice.

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Yeah, there are a few things tested here I'm interested in, and it looks fine.

smoky flame Jul 10, 2020, 5:22 PM

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its a mess in the sense that it is a pretty poorly optimised game. I have run it in the past at 1080p, maxed settings on a system that has a 6700K and a 1080 Ti and FPS was pretty poor for my expectations. Been a while since I touched AC Odyssey and in that time I've upgraded to a 1440p monitor so I can only imagine performance will be quite a bit worse than it was previously

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 5:24 PM

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TBH I was surprised to find that Origins is playable on my old machine.

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It's bad enough to make me want more power, but it's good enough to be tempting.

smoky flame Jul 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbi_-08CMN0 If you go for the 2060 SUPER however, keep in mind to consider the 5700 XT since they are priced similarly. Based off this 1440p benchmark video it is really close and since you game at 1200p this time you would gain some performance over the results shown in this video

YouTube

Testing Games

RTX 2060 SUPER vs RX 5700 XT Test in 9 Games

GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB vs RADEON RX 5700 XT 8GB l 1440p l

Motospeed Gaming Mechanical Keyboard - https://www.gearbest.com/keyboards/pp_298472.html?wid=1433363&lkid=58841345

Games :
Control
Forza Horizon 4 - 01:18
Assassin's Creed Odyssey - 02:23
Metro Exodus - 03:25
Bat...

▶ Play video

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 5:40 PM

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My monitor is just so nice, someone gave it to me - it's far too good for me. 😛

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Oh yeah, another question. I think I know the answer to this one.

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SATA SSD or M.2 SSD?

full flint Jul 10, 2020, 6:08 PM

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M.2

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I thought so, but I wasn't sure if it's something where you might say it's a tiny improvement.

full flint Jul 10, 2020, 6:09 PM

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no, it's significant

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use SATA for bulk storage for sure though since it'll have ports

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Yeah, my plan is to just keep using my USB3 external for bulk storage.

plucky marsh Jul 10, 2020, 6:42 PM

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For those unaware final hours of HL:Alyx is out. I'm planning on giving it a watch later

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 6:43 PM

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That game is VR only, right?

plucky marsh Jul 10, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Yeah, the final hours is looking at the last 10 years at valve and the lead up to its release

cedar smelt Jul 10, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Ohh I see. I don't think I understood what you meant before, sorry.

tribal pilot Jul 10, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Install fallout 76 on your drive that has your operating system or it wont work. Finally got it working.

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 3:30 PM

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https://www.windowscentral.com/intel-thunderbolt-4-official-8k-display

Windows Central

Thunderbolt 4 is here, and it is the only port you'll need on your PC

Intel has introduced the Thunderbolt 4 spec, and the standard introduces a few new features that make it stand out from USB4. Here's everything you need to know about Thunderbolt 4.

cedar smelt Jul 11, 2020, 4:40 PM

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It's not the only port I need until all my legacy devices vanish.

runic gorge Jul 11, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Hi

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 4:41 PM

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hubs

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a single TB can power all of your externals

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it's now being used as a standard for certification instead of its own cable

cedar smelt Jul 11, 2020, 4:42 PM

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It does seem like a nice advancement, NGL.

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 4:42 PM

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so USB that meet requirements will be Thunderbolt

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they also made the requirements a bit stricter, to save internal space for computers, as well as a few other things

cedar smelt Jul 11, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Faster and more power for charging are both great things.

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 4:43 PM

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well, not faster

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it's as fast as TB3 Active

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they just set other requirements

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it's faster than TB3 Passive though

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provided the TB4 Passive is 40GB/s

runic gorge Jul 11, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Hi

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Hello

cedar smelt Jul 11, 2020, 4:45 PM

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I skimmed the article and it looks like it will be faster than USB3 though, which honestly is what most of my gadgets are using at the moment. Or did I misread there?

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...and that's one of the reasons USB4 has 40Gb/s bandwidth — double that of USB 3.2.

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 4:47 PM

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USB4 uses thunderbolt 3 standard

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Thunderbolt 3 had 20GB/s Passive, and 40GB/s Active

cedar smelt Jul 11, 2020, 4:49 PM

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So yeah it's faster than USB3

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And I'm not cutting edge enough to have devices that go newer than that.

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 4:49 PM

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the point is comparing it to TB3 though

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not USB, cause prior to this Thunderbolt and USB were independent formats

cedar smelt Jul 11, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I can see that's your point, but all I care about is how it will compare to literally what I'm already using. That's still valid.

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 4:50 PM

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if you aren't using Thunderbolt 3 then it's automatically an upgrade

cedar smelt Jul 11, 2020, 4:51 PM

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And I'm good with that. I wonder how long before cases and motherboards start to feature this.

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 4:51 PM

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2-3 years earliest

surreal moss Jul 11, 2020, 6:14 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

runic gorge Jul 11, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Cool

surreal moss Jul 11, 2020, 6:16 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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Very excited to spend the day learning this mouse

runic gorge Jul 11, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I don't use a mouse

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 7:09 PM

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@surreal moss I expect a LTT level breakdown because that actually looks interesting. what's its shtick?

surreal moss Jul 11, 2020, 7:11 PM

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74g faster than wired

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650 ips

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It’s like 161ms vs the 168 usual

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 7:12 PM

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what's its weight

surreal moss Jul 11, 2020, 7:17 PM

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74g lol

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Charges magnetically with the dock

full flint Jul 11, 2020, 7:19 PM

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ok, so 74g. I've never heard someone say it's a weight faster than wired lol

surreal moss Jul 11, 2020, 7:19 PM

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The latency is lol

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I was just throwing stuff out before my match started

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📎 video0.mov

plucky marsh Jul 11, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Ok that looks pretty sweet. I'm looking for new wireless mouses atm

rough frost Jul 12, 2020, 6:56 AM

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i stick with the original mouse. i’m pretty good at minecraft pvp i can still get 13cps somehow lol

smoky flame Jul 12, 2020, 9:30 AM

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just by playing a plague tale: innocence and it really is a beautiful game. Running it on my new monitor at maxed settings

surreal moss Jul 13, 2020, 4:08 AM

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@full flint hey so

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I decided to run battlefront 2 in DX12 and it crashed my GPU

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Now my desktop looks like this

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full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:10 AM

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GPU crash rip

surreal moss Jul 13, 2020, 4:11 AM

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How do you fix this lmao

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:11 AM

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restart the display from the device manager, restart system, try unplugging and plugging the cable

surreal moss Jul 13, 2020, 4:12 AM

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I just disabled and enabled the device

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Seemed to fix it

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think

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:13 AM

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yep

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simple restart

surreal moss Jul 13, 2020, 4:13 AM

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I restarted though and it didn’t fix

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Shut power off to psu and everything

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Weird

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:14 AM

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forget the device entirely, disable, unplug, restart, then after powered on

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plug it in

surreal moss Jul 13, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Battlefront 2 is the most unstable game I’ve ever played

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It’s fixed now

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Just saying a simple power on/off didn’t work which scared me lol

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They have the DX12 option, yet it’s unstable, and they have a 240hz option, yet the game is capped engine side at 200

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If you try to enable their fake version of raytracing it just crashes the game

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:16 AM

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there's a number of other games that have a DirectX 12 option that suffer much the same

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unstable, very crash prone 😦

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:16 AM

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it's not exclusive to DX12 Sub

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it's literally the container

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it's why unreal engine crashes so much

surreal moss Jul 13, 2020, 4:17 AM

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That’s what happens when you take a game designed natively for DX11 and develop dx12 capabilities later

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:17 AM

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yep

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it's just incompatibilities

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games built around DX12 and only DX12 run phenomenally

surreal moss Jul 13, 2020, 4:17 AM

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^

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:17 AM

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yup

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Death Stranding and HZD are DX12-Only

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and are the first major games to be exclusive to it

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:18 AM

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I hope more DirectX 12 native games come out soon. Put DirectX 11 to bed

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:18 AM

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DX12U is slated for november/december

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sooooo

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hopefully then

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:21 AM

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is DirectX 12 Ultimate different to DirectX 12? If so that's just going to be awkward. Hope it turns out not to be a whole other API that devs land up including DirectX 12 and ultimate and much like games with support for DirectX 11 that have DirectX 12 they land up crashing

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:22 AM

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no

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it's DX12 but the components are v2 or new

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Sampler Stream Feedback is new

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:24 AM

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btw, I've had a chance to try HDR on my monitor with a bunch of games and honestly, I'm not all that impressed with Windows 10 HDR. I don't get what all the hype around HDR is

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:24 AM

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windows has garbage HDR

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this is a well-known fact

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it's noticeable, but it's not that great in the sense of true HDR

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Hope that can be fixed some day because if it doesn't reflect the true qualities of HDR then it is clouding my views on it big time

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:26 AM

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not really lol

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you can look at any other HDR-capable device and notice a huge difference

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especially in film-media

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:27 AM

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so its just windows that sucks for HDR?

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:27 AM

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yerp

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:27 AM

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😦

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:27 AM

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iirc even linux's use (on the rare occaisons) is better

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Macs, Phones, Consoles, TVs

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all have really good implementations

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...except windows

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:29 AM

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at least now I know it is not my monitor

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:29 AM

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you got the G7, right?

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:29 AM

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have fallen in love with it

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yeah

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:29 AM

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ah

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well...

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it only has VesaDisplay HDR600 rating

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so that's not too high to begin with

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wait, have you enabled HDR in windows settings for the display?

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:31 AM

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better than HDR400. I looked at the specs and I don't get how that can even be called HDR. At least HDR600 displays have some local dimming, its a start

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:31 AM

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HDR400 isn't even real HDR

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it just barely meets some luminance requirements

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a lot of people have called for its removal as a cert

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:32 AM

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yeah, I enabled the HDR settings in Windows

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:34 AM

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you have an X, don't you? I can't remember what systems you have

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:34 AM

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just a PC

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:35 AM

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ah, so nothing tangible to compare it to

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other than maybe a phone?

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:35 AM

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S20 Ultra

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:35 AM

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that has really good HDR support

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all samsung and apple flagships have some of the best HDR

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coupled with OLED too

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do you have netflix?

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:37 AM

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just a shame not every streaming app supports HDR. Disney+ for example

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Disney+ supports HDR

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:37 AM

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yeah, I have netflix

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:37 AM

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there's an entire category for HDR

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:38 AM

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on TVs it does. I don't seem to notice any support of HDR on my phone when I use Disney+

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:38 AM

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ah, idk about phones.

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disney+ phone app is alien to me

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https://www.netflix.com/title/80018499

Test Patterns | Netflix

This is a collection of video test patterns organized by source resolution and native frame rate. The resolution indicated in the pattern's title identifies the title's source resolution, and therefore, the stream set's maximum encoded resolution. The frame rate indicated in t...

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here's netflix's test patterns

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iirc the last 2 are for HDR

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ah, nvm

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they moved the HDR ones

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https://www.netflix.com/title/81014625

HDR sRGB Graphics Test (400 nits) | Netflix

Series of sRGB graphics graded to 400 nits in a Dolby Vision container.

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here

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these are 400 nits only though

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:41 AM

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was this for my PC or phone?

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:41 AM

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both

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compare across both

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suggested when doing tests like this on a phone

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make sure it's at max brightness

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:42 AM

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funny thing is I can't seem to get Netflix HDR to work on my PC. Just so awkward. Think I'll avoid HDR on PC for the foreseeable future

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:43 AM

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compare it to SDR on PC then lol

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:43 AM

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that would be an unfair comparison would it not?

full flint Jul 13, 2020, 4:44 AM

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nop

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since you're still able to compare HDR to SDR

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instead of higher HDR to lower HDR

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you'll still visualize the benefits

smoky flame Jul 13, 2020, 4:48 AM

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guess I'll give it a go. Actually wonder how a VA-QLED monitor would do against the S20 Ultra's dynamic AMOLED 2x

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I can't even find that video you linked earlier on my phone through search

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out of the two what would you pick? 240Hz 8 bit color or 144Hz 10 bit color. Could do 240Hz 10 bit but even with DP 1.4 I'd need to use 4:2:2 where at 144Hz it works with RGB fine

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 12:35 AM

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https://youtu.be/-SLjzncqf24

YouTube

Digital Foundry

Watch Dogs Legion PC Hands-On: Next-Gen Ray Tracing Features Previewed

The third instalment takes us to a futuristic London - serving up a great playground to show off ray traced reflections. We take a look at the PC build running maxed out on an RTX 2080 Ti, giving an early sign of how next-gen releases for PS5 and Xbox Series X could manifest.
...

▶ Play video

smoky flame Jul 14, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Watch Dogs Legion looks awesome! Just hope it doesn't turn out like Watch Dogs 2 did in terms of performance. That was a mess

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 12:45 AM

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4k@30

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on 2080Ti

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same for consoles

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there's only so much DLSS 2.0 can do

smoky flame Jul 14, 2020, 1:23 AM

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by the time it launches we'll probably have 30 series and RDNA2 to look forward to so increased performance

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 1:30 AM

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unfortunately it seems to have an air of quite a repetitiveness in some cases

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and Valhalla's got quite a few issues with its current early build

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mechanically

smoky flame Jul 14, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Repetitive or not. I can't wait to explore London in Watch Dogs Legion. Can't believe I missed the whole Ubisoft show a couple of days ago. Think I'm too fixated to my new monitor at the moment 😄

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 1:37 AM

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valhalla combat looks fantastic, the dual wield system is brilliant

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im gonna dual wield shields like a boss

smoky flame Jul 14, 2020, 1:38 AM

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btw, where was it Far Cry 6's location is?

hot seal Jul 14, 2020, 1:39 AM

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fantasy island based on Cuba

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they call it " Yara "

smoky flame Jul 14, 2020, 1:40 AM

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ahh, thanks. Look forward to seeing more on that later

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 1:43 AM

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yeah, the exploration is pretty much the better part of the game. story seems......generic and repetitive in some cases

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but I gave up on WD having good story after 1's DLC started the trend of straying into what we now have with 2

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 3:17 AM

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https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-death-stranding-pc-60fps-was-the-original-vision

Eurogamer.net

How Death Stranding PC delivers on Kojima Productions' original vision

smoky flame Jul 14, 2020, 3:55 AM

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I'm still very tempted to get Death Stranding this week

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 4:04 AM

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the bonus offers are Day-1 items, no clue how long they plan to allow that before they retire the promo

smoky flame Jul 14, 2020, 5:11 AM

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went and got it

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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So uhh they decided to get info about DirectX 12 and went to Nvidia and AMD, instead of Microsoft. Y'now, developer of DirectX.

What? Am I missing something? I'm literally spamming doubt in my brain now

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 12:14 PM

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haaah xbox nerds with 60 fps get outta here PC ON FLEEK

torpid summit Jul 14, 2020, 12:15 PM

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lmao

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Sadly people don't know Windows and Xbox owned by same company

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 5:08 PM

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@full flint that's not how it works

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GPU manufacturers are the ones that write drivers based around API, and have knowledge on how their GPUs integrate with the frameworks

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if you don't know how to get something to run on something that uses their devices, you would go to them

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microsoft doesn't manufacture NVIDIA and AMD's Discrete GPU, so they wouldn't be helpful creating software that has to have sweeping compatibility

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Ah, okay. Thank you for these info

sterile thunder Jul 14, 2020, 9:01 PM

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What happens if i enable the "Cut" skulls on the MCC?

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There's a ton of comments left by the developers in the scripts that are really cool to see, including ones of skulls that arent fully implemented

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one blaming Marty for IWHBYD not working on HaloCE. lol

full flint Jul 14, 2020, 11:27 PM

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@smoky flame did you buy it on Steam or EGS

tribal pilot Jul 15, 2020, 12:16 AM

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what do I press to get my game bar up on Pc trying to party up with a friend on Xbox and its being difficult.

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Win+G

tribal pilot Jul 15, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Thanks

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Did you get death stranding Dark?

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 12:18 AM

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#screenshots-and-photos haha

tribal pilot Jul 15, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Is It worth it? I played a bit on ps4 and it seemed cool but kinda like a running delivery simulator.

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 12:20 AM

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if you enjoy learning about worlds, yeah

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honestly after a while the gameplay gets addicting for me

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but it's not for everyone

tribal pilot Jul 15, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Yeah I checked it out when redbox used to allow you to rent games from them.

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 12:20 AM

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higher framerate, ultrawide though.... 😍

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uncapped framerates specifically

tribal pilot Jul 15, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Don't have ultrawide but I'm sure my gtx 1080 should look better then a ps4 pro.

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I really liked when he downed the monster in 2 seconds I was like I would have heart attack.

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 12:22 AM

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I've had some pretty rough moments in that game

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but can't say anything without spoiling portions

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and that's never good

tribal pilot Jul 15, 2020, 12:24 AM

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I only played for 4 hours I still have no Idea what the game is really about.

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 12:24 AM

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4 hours is really just the beginning

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it starts getting into it around 12h onward

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and then is in full tilt around 17

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depending on how long it takes

tribal pilot Jul 15, 2020, 12:25 AM

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when I meant monster I meant monster energy drink.

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 12:25 AM

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oh lol

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and here I was thinking about BTs

tribal pilot Jul 15, 2020, 12:26 AM

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No he drank a energy drink in 2 seconds a whole one. I thought he was going to die.

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 12:26 AM

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yeah

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you can down all 5 in like 20 seconds lol

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20-30

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 1:00 AM

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I drank an energy drink before. Never again lol

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 1:18 AM

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was Steam I got it on, Dark. Not long awake, sorry for not replying sooner 😄

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 1:30 AM

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you're fine. I found someone who got it on EGS

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Been playing it a little and looking at RTSS there appears to be a strange sort of cap around 60-70 FPS. I looked at some benchmarks and they claimed I should be getting a lot more FPS than that. As much as 109 FPS

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 2:34 AM

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I'm getting 160-180 on average, odd

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I just limited it to 120

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 3:28 AM

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what GPU you got?

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Found out the issue on my end and it is a really odd one... I had a controller connected. Removing it sorted FPS issues I was having. Now getting way higher than 70 FPS

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also, may want to force x16 anisotropic filtering through the driver since the in game implementation is pretty poor

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 4:46 AM

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@smoky flame yeah. Don’t use TAA either, use in-game FXAA then override with Driver MXAA

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I’ve told the people who file it. Also if your cutscenes look choppy try pausing and unpausing

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It’ll fix it.

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There’s som early issues with mass-market cards not in the initial testing range having problems. Vsync should remain enabled as well

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Or limit it to your monitors framerate

ruby spear Jul 15, 2020, 4:50 AM

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https://kotaku.com/update-your-gpu-drivers-for-death-stranding-for-gods-sa-1844385648

Kotaku

Update Your GPU Drivers For Death Stranding For God's Sake

The PC version of Death Stranding is out, and as our own Mike Fahey reported, it runs like a dream. This is true, provided you’re not a dumbass like me and forget to install the latest Game Ready Drivers for your Nvidia card. I didn’t do that, and the above video shows the fre...

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📎 Screenshot_2020-07-15_at_05.52.56.png

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Now I fear Horizon Zero Dawn may have the same issue with the controller. Never seen something like this before. If every game on PC improved performance when removing the controller that would be pretty epic and one way I would have to get used to keyboard and mouse 😄

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 4:58 AM

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LOL

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But yeah. These issues might be denuvo related

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It’d be nice if it ran at launch-time and not run-time

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 5:00 AM

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well I sure hope it isn't intentional. Just makes things a little awkward that any time I plan to play Death Stranding I need to remember to disconnect my controller or put up with nearly half the FPS

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 5:00 AM

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You can’t really play it without one

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It just controls horribly otherwise

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Pretty much standard for J-games

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 5:06 AM

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might be an issue with steam input that is causing FPS to nearly halve. I'll link the post I made on Death Stranding's Steam discussion page. Just getting stranger and stranger, lol

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 5:07 AM

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That sums up every aspect of the game lol

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Are you using a DualShock or steam controller or something?

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 5:07 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/app/1190460/discussions/0/2784864483546990365/

Lower performance than expected? :: DEATH STRANDING General Discuss...

My system has struggled so far to get higher FPS. Almost like there is some sort of cap as it seems to range about 60-70 FPS in game. Strange thing is I've seen lower end cards (1060 and 580) get higher FPS at 1080p than my 1080 Ti is getting at 1440p. If that doesn't tell me ...

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Xbox controller

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Odd.

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Steam doesn’t manage Xbox controllers

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Did you restart your game when you changed initial settings?

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 5:09 AM

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there may have been a setting I had enabled through Steam big picture that adds support or something for Xbox controllers. I disabled that and going to try the game again

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Other than the cutscene issue currently you shouldn’t have any issues.

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But yeah. Leave Vsync on.

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Or cap fps to a specific number your monitor supports

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You will get some crazy bugs otherwise

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Sam’s missing hair was hilarious though

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I force vsync through the driver and disable any in game vsync option

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going to try this again. Maybe this time the controller won't kill performance 😦

full flint Jul 15, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Cause I’m using my Xbox controller and it’s running fine apart from those aforementioned things I stated

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 5:17 AM

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ok, disabling that option that I had enabled fixed it. Now has me wondering if any other Steam games I played previously were affected by this

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getting around 100 FPS now, maxed settings at 1440p

silent lynx Jul 15, 2020, 3:03 PM

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just finished my pc

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discord is first app

smoky flame Jul 15, 2020, 3:11 PM

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nice, what specs?

digital gale Jul 16, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Should I get the HP 25x gaming monitor or the benq zowie RL2755 gaming monitor? Planning on using my xbox one x on it for awhile until I get a pc

smoky flame Jul 16, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I'd recommend you look for a 1440p, VA or IPS monitor. Especially if you plan to later use this monitor on your PC. You want something that will last you some time and depending on specs 1080p 144Hz may be pretty easy to achieve. 1440p is a pretty nice sweet spot

digital gale Jul 16, 2020, 5:43 PM

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What's wrong with a TN panel? ;-;

smoky flame Jul 16, 2020, 5:49 PM

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TN monitors have poor colour, contrast and viewing angles. Issues that VA and IPS don't suffer so badly from

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VA has the best contrast but tend to have the slowest response times while IPS has the best colour but tend to suffer from backlight bleed that can skew dark colours

digital gale Jul 16, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Bruhhh

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Which one should I get? The HP or the Benq?

smoky flame Jul 16, 2020, 6:20 PM

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why specifically these two monitors?

digital gale Jul 16, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Both are the ones that I can afford @smoky flame

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If any others are available I'll try n get em but those 2 are what's on stock rn

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THAT I can afford

smoky flame Jul 16, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I see. If you can I'd recommend you try and save up a bit more to go for something nicer. I'm not sure I can pick between either of those monitors. Sorry 😦

digital gale Jul 16, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Issokay

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;-;

full flint Jul 16, 2020, 11:01 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nidnvlt6lzw

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only for the professional wingdings users

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I feel like the type of person that would use this would be the same type of person that codes in Whitespace

lusty oak Jul 17, 2020, 12:59 AM

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I just watched a video of Henry Cavill building a PC and it was the most glorious thing ever!

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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So the advertisement of the Surface Laptop 3 says I can run Forza Horizon 4 but when I try to it struggles even on 720p lowest settings. Is my unit faulty then?

thorny cypress Jul 18, 2020, 3:10 AM

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which version did you get? There's multiple SKUs, and if you got the lowest end one with intel integrated graphics, then what you're seeing I believe would be fairly expected

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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I really like gaming at 1440p now. Seems I don't really have to worry about upgrading my CPU either, at least for a little while longer. Benchmarks are showing Intel's advantage falls at 1440p and creates a much more level playing field. Which favours AMD and the lower price of their CPUs.
Only complaint I have for 1440p gaming is that now my 1080 Ti seems a bit lacking in performance and that is something I thought I'd never say. At least not for a couple more years anyway.

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 5:26 AM

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1080Ti's been lacking for a while now

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honestly, if it wasn't for DLSS, the 2080Ti would be as well

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Need that GA102

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I only just notice it is lacking when playing at 1440p maxed settings. 1080p performance was pretty nice and yeah, GA102 or RDNA2 (big Navi)

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Very tempted to go AMD regardless of what Nvidia do with their Ampere GPUs. So far all I know is Intel and Nvidia but that could all change in the next year or so. GPU upgrade is a definite must. CPU, as mentioned earlier not so much now. Might just wait for DDR5 to go mainstream before upgrading my CPU. Hopefully there are more significant gains in CPU performance to be had by then at 1440p. Just hope it doesn't favour Intel like 1080p did

tribal pilot Jul 18, 2020, 8:04 AM

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So I am waitng for new graphics cards new consoles and new monitors to come out. Its going to be expensive at the end of the year.

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 11:34 AM

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monitors won't really change

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GPU, CPU (AMD), Memory, and Consoles

devout remnant Jul 18, 2020, 12:27 PM

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@full flint big changes in monitors soon

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240Hz IPS & 360Hz IPS

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@smoky flame next gen RTX 3000 is expected to be 60-90% faster than a 2080 Ti.
AMD won’t come close that, they excel low to mid range at great price points.
They don’t challenge at the absolute top.

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:36 PM

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RDNA2's top GPU is also said to be faster than a 2080 Ti by up to 50%. Its all just rumours until we see the products and specs confirmed but if that is true and AMD offer it up at their usual sort of prices that would be pretty epic. Even £699 on a GPU that's up to 50% faster than a 2080 Ti that costs at least £999 would do quite a bit of damage. Though RTX 3000 is still going to come out on top with performance and a price tag to match most likely

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 12:36 PM

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We already have 240hz IPS lol

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And idk where you got 60-90% from

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 12:37 PM

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360's new on TN/VA, don't expect it to be polished on IPS for a while

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 12:38 PM

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We’re seeing clock speeds about 10% higher, rtx about 400%, but all in all estimated raw performance of about 15-40% based on model

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The only real deal jump is the 24gb non-Titan card

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Others are just your usual 15% improvement

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:40 PM

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GDDR6X memory I think I saw too

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Well yeah

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But that’s not a huge improvement

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It’s the bus improvements more than anything

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:41 PM

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could break 1TB/s (or is it Tb/s?) first non HBM memory to do that I think

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Like the 3080 will have a 320 bit bus

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It’s really all in the 3090 for this gen

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That seems to be what nvidia is spending the most rnd on. 24gb, 384 bit bus, 5000+ cores, and supposedly FE will have a brand new 12 pin ATX connector to supply the 350w and more under peak

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Which means new psu time as well

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:44 PM

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that new connector sounds all kinds of awkward. Hope it turns out not so if and when it surfaces for real

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 12:44 PM

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It’s not

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It’s overdue

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 12:44 PM

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the real question is if they do a dual-die gpu again

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or if they do accelerated silicon instead

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I hope the rumored 3090 is accelerated silicon, since dual-die GPU are more or less just single-card SLI

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:45 PM

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if I have to go and buy a whole new PSU just for an Nvidia GPU forget it. Nvidia will have that stuff marketed and taxed up to the hills

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Cards are pushing the 8 pin way beyond its limits. That’s why we have cards with 3 connectors and psus that can’t supply that much power

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Even if they’re rated for it

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 12:46 PM

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@smoky flame what's your PSU's Wattage now?

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:46 PM

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650w

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 12:46 PM

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you're going to have to upgrade for pretty much anything

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AMD or NVIDIA

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Corsair RM650i

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 12:47 PM

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that's why I always recommend 800W as a baseline

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650 is a budget wattage

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 12:47 PM

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He might squeeze a 3060 out

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 12:47 PM

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maybe

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depends on how optimized the TDP is

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 12:47 PM

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They’re looking like pretty normal cards

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 12:47 PM

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PSU is the single one component to never skimp on

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Thought Nvidia were about power efficiency? If I can't throw a 3080 TI/3090 on this PSU that's not very efficient

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 12:48 PM

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It is efficient

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Apparently even the 2080 Ti would be no problem

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 12:49 PM

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The 7nm diode is 40% more power efficient than the previous 12nm used in turing

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However it’s also 40% smaller

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Which means you can fit 40% more of them

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:49 PM

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so I should be fine with whatever Nvidia throw with RTX 3000

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Basically negating power efficiency increases for more performance

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I’m sure the 3060 will be an efficient card but that’s it

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:52 PM

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any idea how that 12 pin connector is going to work? will that actually require a whole new Nvidia taxed PSU or will most operate just fine? When I heard about this new connector I got a bit annoyed. First thought in my head. "Oh no, here we go. Nvidia proprietary connector, new PSU required"

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 12:55 PM

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you're not factoring CPU/Memory and Storage Sub

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if you ONLY plan to upgrade your GPU, then you can sneak off with likely a 3060 or 3070

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if you plan to get a higher end, you'll have to upgrade your PSU though for the times it overclocks itself

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 12:57 PM

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if a new PSU is required and I dare see even so much as one 80 Plus Gold + 12 pin NV connector or whatever they want to call it priced at 80 Plus Titanium PSU prices or worse yet as I said, Nvidia can forget it. Especially if prices from RTX 2000 remain on top of that. I will most definitely be going AMD with no care how much better RTX 3000 is. If I didn't have my 1080 Ti I may have already been on AMD with a 5700 XT

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 12:58 PM

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AMD's not one for better TDP, so if you go AMD you're almost certainly need a new PSU

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650 is a budget PSU

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plain and simple

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500 is economy

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750 is a good start with a bit of leeway

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750-900W are pretty much the sweet spot

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1000+ are for enthusiasts with specced out rigs

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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should still be enough though. Performance improves but so too does efficiency. AMD, even with the 5700 XT still recommend a 650w PSU

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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yes, but look at the recommended CPU pairing

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generational curves come with a new baseline TDP

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look at the 7 series back in 2013 vs the 6 series prior

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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You’re gonna want a new one

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I’m sure these cards have huge peak draw

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:01 PM

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like, even now you'd be a fool to buy a 650w for anything other than getting your foot wet

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:01 PM

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actually, AMD recommend 600w even. Where as Nvidia with the 1080 Ti recommended 650w

surreal moss Jul 18, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Yep. I have an 850w because my 2080ti can peak at over 300 under OC

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I think like 380

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:02 PM

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AMD's OC TDP is usually an additive 40-50% TDP

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like, at this point you're arguing ways to skimp on the single most important component

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as well as one of the most inexpensive components

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because what, 850w Gold ratings are what, $80 XLR8?

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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I'm just going to see how things all pan out once these products actually release. No point in me getting frustrated over things that don't yet physically exist. Worst case scenario I have to buy myself a new PSU before I buy a new GPU. No real biggie but I'd rather not spend if not absolutely necessary

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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90?

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:05 PM

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I won't be overclocking my GPU anyway and if I buy a GPU that is overclocked I'll be sure to set it up in a way it goes to factory stock rather than OC

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:05 PM

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GPUs automatically overclock

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you can then manually OC further

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but we're talking standard boost clocks

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Nvidia has a debug option that can set factory OC cards to stock speeds. Strips away that factory OC. Since not every game plays nice with overclocks I don't mind playing stock. Might lose a little performance but shouldn't be too significant a loss if I gain better stability in those games

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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You can't remove NVIDIA's Boost 3.0 or w/e they call it now

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nor AMD's....I forgot what AMD calls theirs

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if you try to remove those it can completely brick the card

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you're trying to cut corners on the most important component, yet complain that your 1080Ti is showing its age'

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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wouldn't be removing it. Just resetting any factory OCs from 3rd party beyond what Nvidia set on their GPUs as stock

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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that's irrelevant to the boost

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it's still going to increase TDP

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:12 PM

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all this is too confusing now. I thought debug mode worked in bringing down 3rd part OC cards (ASUS Strix OC for example) down to Nvidia stock which should mean TDP goes down with it

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:12 PM

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don't forget PSU's capable output diminish over time

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Boost 3.0 is not 3rd party afterclocking

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https://www.tested.com/tech/pcs/1159-picking-the-right-power-supplyhow-much-is-too-much/

Tested

Picking the Right Power Supply—How Much is Too Much? - Tested.com

Hardware rules of thumb dictate that more power is better. But is it possible for a power supply to be too powerful?

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2010 info is still tried and true

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"sweet spot" of power consumption is between 60 and 85 percent of your power supply's maximum rating; if your system's maximum power consumption is 450 watts, you should get at least a 550W power supply. If your system's maximum power consumption is 600 watts, you should get at least a 750W power supply. Calculating your system's potential max load isn't difficult--most component websites show you how many watts their parts will need on a full load (eg. max TDP for CPUs and GPUs).

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because PSU degrade over time

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just like a phone's battery loses it's total charge capacity over time

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"eventually your 600W will only output 500W" more or less how it works

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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yeah, I get that part and tbh I've had this PSU since 2016 so sooner or later I know I will have to get a new one

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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you never want to buy a PSU within 50W of your calculated Maximum

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NEVER. That's a good way to have a system failure

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But I have to run. No point in trying to force a horse to drink after leading it to water

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Probably why XLR8 gave up

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:18 PM

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I have no idea how much power my system actually consumes. That requires some additional equipment that I don't have. I just go by what NVIDIA, AMD etc recommend and was told way back when I built my PC that 650w was enough

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:18 PM

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I remember what you need+%20 is a rule of thumb on PSU's right?

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:21 PM

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one other tip I got was similar to both what you said, G-Man and what Dark quoted but I use pcpartpicker, create my build then add 50% to whatever pcpartpciker shows as max power estimated. I could go and do that right now

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:21 PM

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30-40% G-Man

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650w Max means you should buy 750-850 more or less

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:26 PM

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if that was the case I made a major mistake that I have not been fully aware of for the past 4 years and I trusted the guy who told me this stuff that led me to build the PC at the time

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9tFNMc Here's my current system specs in full. Fans and all

System Builder

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Like. If you’re just getting into it you’re fine. But never get one as an upgrader

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Or an upgrade

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750-850 is also the sweet spot for literally never having to upgrade, only replace

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Unless you plan to go enthusiast and full-tilt with the rig

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In which case obv you’d need 1000+

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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well I'll definitely take that on board. Honestly feel like I made a number of errors with my first build. Something I do plan to correct but with how quick tech advances I've never been able to truly keep up. Need to get back to my 2016 self somehow where I was keeping up pretty well and learning along the way

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Have big plans to go SSD only. Not sure if I should go NVMe or SATA.
Maybe move to 32GB ram though even at 1440p I don't find any games getting close enough to using all 16GB I have right now.
CPU not sure I need to upgrade.
GPU I feel I need to upgrade if I want more performance at 1440p

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:44 PM

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CPU is still a large factor in fps.

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Both GPU and CPU are required at higher than 1080p

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Due to resolution as well as increase in frame data

smoky flame Jul 18, 2020, 1:46 PM

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doesn't seem that big a deal at 1440p. Intel's advantage falls and most CPUs level out. You have 3100 competing with 9900K and stuff or within very few FPS compared to Intel's clear 1080p advantage

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 1:46 PM

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I just meant all around strength

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Not so much single-threaded/single-core performance

devout remnant Jul 18, 2020, 2:18 PM

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@surreal moss 1440p 240Hz IPS I meant.

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@full flint 360Hz is actually debuting on IPS and looks pretty polished tbh.

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PSU is the single one component to never skimp on
@full flint facts. Went overkill on a 1200W Corsair Platinum PSU for this reason.

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 2:21 PM

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the ASUS ROG Swift 360 is TN panel

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Not IPS

devout remnant Jul 18, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Really? I thought it was IPS.

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Ah well, Acer got a IPS coming.

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“Update 18/5/20 – based on what we know about the forthcoming Dell Alienware alternative, this screen is expected to be an IPS panel” - ASUS 360Hz

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@full flint

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Not sure where you saw it was TN, I did remember that all 3 (ASUS, AlienWare, Acer) were IPS.

full flint Jul 18, 2020, 2:25 PM

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To-date
, all 240hz G-Sync Monitors have been TN

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It’s a G-Sync Monitor

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And please don’t ping me repeatedly. #rules