#pc-gaming

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full flint
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no, no it is not

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desk not part of a setup?

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interesting...

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PC setup I mean

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looks like I may need velcro cable ties

full flint
autumn sluice
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@full flint can u recommend a good place to get a decent gaming chair in Ontario?

full flint
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hold on, why me

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I don't even live in Canada

autumn sluice
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U know a lot about canada stores and stuff

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More than most here tbh

full flint
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not any that sell gaming chairs

autumn sluice
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Ah ok

full flint
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Maxnomic and secret lab are the best

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Unfortunately they and every other chair brand on the planet is sold out or close to because of the virus

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So good luck

plucky marsh
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Are there any budget brands?

full flint
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No. Just no names

plucky marsh
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OK thanks. I'll just grab something from Amazon then

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I think if I showed you what I was sitting on your bottom would be offended

full flint
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Cheap amazon ones won’t be much better

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Anything under $200 is just metal frame and recycled foam

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And absolute crap for your back

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I had 2 of them

plucky marsh
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Feel like anything is better than this

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I don't have the room to spend a lot of money

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Might just get a cheap one that has at least some padding

full flint
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@azure solar no self-promotion. #rules

autumn sluice
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So secret lab chairs are 500$

full flint
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shouldn't be that high

plucky marsh
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For my height/weight the cheapest is £350

full flint
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unless you're really tall and getting one of the titan huge ones

plucky marsh
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I'm too tall for the smallest one

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I have ordered something off amazon... Better than what I have at least

flint aurora
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@full flint tbh the chair I have which was £100 is plenty comfortable enough for me.

full flint
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secret lab is best?

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I'd rather jump to a herman miller if I was spending that much...

hushed cairn
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Dell is i am pro

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easy

full flint
tropic sluice
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Yo

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Alienware anyone?

full flint
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I'm sure someone.

sacred iron
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I am rog and razer and Microsoft really depend on the job I do

full flint
devout remnant
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@full flint

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I’ve had Herman Miller, Secret Labs and Steelcase

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I prefer the Omega 2020 over the Gesture and Embody

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Imo the Gesture has great quality but the HM was mostly cheap plastic and I was very disappointed.

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Soft Weave & Cold Cure on Omega is very good.

full flint
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wait you wouldnt recommend the aeron?

devout remnant
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@full flint I didn’t like it

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If I was getting a chair it would be Omega > Gesture > Embody

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I paid so much for the latter two

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Disappointed

errant sorrel
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I got the DXRacer King and its by far the comfiest chair ive ever had

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Very expensive but worth every penny so far, i spend so much time on it

full flint
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huh
I seen the aeron in a lot of offices
or similar

errant sorrel
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I dont sit like a normal person on chairs anyway

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the DXRacer King is quite deep and I always have 1 (or both) legs up on the chair haha

full flint
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no vr on macOS anymore either

plucky marsh
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Still surprised Vive is so big

full flint
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without that I think htc wouldnt exist anymore

plucky marsh
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I'm just surprised oculus isn't bigger, especially since they're much more affordable

full flint
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facebook owned might be why...

plucky marsh
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Could be

smoky flame
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Don't want to speak too soon but I think I just resolved an issue with DirectX 12. I went into my motherboard's bios and set CPU core ratio to auto and disabled Asus multicore enhancement and XMP.
Upon logging back on and setting my PC up as I usually do before gaming I tried playing The Division 2 with DirectX 12 renderer enabled and so far, two sessions on - no crashes. A game that would frequently crash in DirectX 12 when I had my bios set to sync all cores and XMP enabled.
Only thing I can take from this is DirectX 12 really doesn't like hardware being overclocked. CPU and RAM especially.

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Going to try Metro Exodus next, another game I found crashing when I set it to DirectX 12. See if it too remains crash free

full flint
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wonder if its an asus thing

smoky flame
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Metro Exodus was crash free too. Played through part of the last mission in the time between this message and my previous one

full flint
smoky flame
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that thumbnail is rather clickbaity is it not?

full flint
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the thumbnail yes

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the title yes

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it is one of the first for a content creator

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but not the first
or fastest

autumn sluice
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So watched some videos on gaming chairs vs regular office chairs

full flint
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VR XTREME

autumn sluice
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Turns out gaming chairs are way less comfy than ergo chairs

tribal pilot
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I regret buying a gaming chair. It looks great but is really uncomfortable. I will be buying the most comfortable chair next time and I won’t care what it looks like.

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Had to buy a memory foam cushion after using the chair for a day.

full flint
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just for anyone planning into the large-drive market

autumn sluice
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Oof

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But yea turns out gaming chairs are designed to be like the "racing" chairs in cars. All it is, is it looks cool. Get an ergonomic chair if you need a chair

viral crest
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Secret Lab are so nice.

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Hubs got one for his desk setup. ♥️

autumn sluice
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To quote one guys vid

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Secret labs lumbar support is a cushion. Why the heck would you ever spend 500$ on a chair that doesn't have built in lumbar support

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Which he has a point

viral crest
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Ours has lumbar support. 👀

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May not be the best but it's there.

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It's the Titan series. 👍🏻

full flint
full flint
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Error Code: 0x800704C6 seems to be pretty commonly prevalent on MS Store for Win10 for some users, just for anyone having issues installing.

full flint
gleaming dove
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Got an issue.

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Trying to play Astroneer for the first time and get "We Couldn't Sign you into Xbox Live The Process Terminated unexpectedly" when it boots up

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it's the only game I've seen this pop up on and I cant even find someone with this problem.

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asked on the astroneer discord and they were like "Hey thats an XBL problem, sorry, cant help"

obsidian bobcatBOT
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KNSBBan El Joe#5315 has been banned.

old flicker
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hello guys! I'm new to discord

lusty oak
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hi

full flint
smoky flame
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@deft saffron I'm curious. How much are 5700 XT where you are?

deft saffron
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$390-420

smoky flame
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ahh and you paid $347 for a 2060? Any idea what model?

deft saffron
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Don't remember I will check when I get home

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That is with tax included

deft saffron
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I did not want to wait weeks and weeks to build pc lol

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I said I'm not going pass $1000 before cap was $800, but I went over because pandemic

full flint
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fair enough
I gave my old one to a relative since I don't use it much

smoky flame
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should still be a pretty solid system. My only concern would be how that 2060 does at 4K

full flint
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When the $400 3060 is supposedly going to ray trace at the equivalent of your $1300 2080ti

autumn sluice
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oooo sauce?

full flint
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No official sauce

autumn sluice
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aw

full flint
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just based on rumors around clocks and memory pool/bw

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they're gearing up for next gen

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Oh well

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Good thing I stashed my trumpbux

autumn sluice
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heck if the 3060 is only 500cdn im down to buy it

full flint
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see

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but XLR8

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think about how good that 1300 3080Ti will be

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Plus I have a friend buying my 2080ti

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think of the greatness

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this generation curve is going to hit harder than any in the past

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I won't be surprised if the 20 series becomes almost entirely obsolete in 3 years

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RTX Minecraft in 90fps

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8k

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:^ )

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just cause why not

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Alright let’s not get too dreamy

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it's bedrock

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don't have to get dreamy when we both know magical things await

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now..Java on the other hand

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computer would implode

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Have you seen videos of RTX voice

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I've been using it

autumn sluice
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im just excited for the possibility of being able to afford a 3060 out the gate

full flint
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it's finicky but it's alright

flint aurora
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i call bs to the 3060 being as fast as the 2080ti

full flint
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you can call BS all you want

autumn sluice
full flint
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doesn't mean it won't happen

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I’m curious how well/not well it would work with my SM7B

flint aurora
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ik but i just dont think nvidia would do that

full flint
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people always forget generational curves on hardware

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if they don't want consoles to outperform their new GPU lineup they will

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It’s not BS

autumn sluice
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nvidia would so do that

full flint
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Btw

flint aurora
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Personally i think it is, but cool if it isnt

full flint
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look at the jump from 6 series to 7 series

flint aurora
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still not upgrading my 1080ti for 3 years 🤷‍♀️

full flint
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it was astronomical

autumn sluice
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wut

full flint
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They’re switching entire diode sizes

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12nm to 7nm

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within 2 years the 6 series could barely handle new games coming out

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this happens every new focal shift

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So even just theoretically speaking, these cards can be 40% more powerful at the same size

autumn sluice
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i have a 1650s and im getting a 3060 if its close to godd price. hell id settle for a nice price drop on the 20 series

full flint
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or do people just not remember the 2002 GT lineup over Voodoo GFX cards

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That’s before any kind of die adjustment or cutting

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it's almost like it happens every decade

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Also ampere is supposedly a dual platform architecture

autumn sluice
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2020 is the year the 20 series dies. how ironic

full flint
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eh, not 2020

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Gaming cards + professional cards

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just 2022-2023

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ampere's also server-grade

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like Volta

autumn sluice
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oh they still that far out huh

full flint
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Yeah server is what I meant

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they'll be able to run mid-low

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so 2023

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Couldn’t think of the label

flint aurora
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@full flint what will be able to run mid/low?

full flint
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20 series

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some high

flint aurora
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meh

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i probs wont play the new games

full flint
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Hell my 2080ti already struggles in certain games

smoky flame
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can't wait for the 3080 Ti... Specs better be good if I'm to be parting with £1000+ soon

full flint
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a 1080Ti is a good mid-range card

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as it stands now

flint aurora
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its awesome

autumn sluice
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1650s?

full flint
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Star Wars battlefront 2 dips below 60 at 1080p ultra sometimes

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Like y

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it's your first GPU chief, so save up

autumn sluice
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i am

flint aurora
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its annoying mid range starts at a 570/580 but ends at a 2080 lol

autumn sluice
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taking a full 2k from cerb and saving it

full flint
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580
mid range

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you really can not get high-range without a Titan or Quadro (higher end quadro)

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580's like

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really low-midrange

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like...really low

autumn sluice
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friend has 580. yea looooow midrange

full flint
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We put a 590 in my friend’s $600 budget build lmaooo

flint aurora
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i spose that mid range doesnt mean slow lol

full flint
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it doesn't.

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it means throughput

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Gigatexels and TF

smoky flame
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I still say we exclude Titan and Quadro cards since while they may be able to game but those prices... I have no family friendly words to describe them

devout remnant
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@full flint 2080 Ti struggling for 60fps at 1080p?

full flint
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no

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you can't exclude them

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they are the only high-range cards on the market

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at all

smoky flame
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yeah but they are aimed at different users besides gamers

full flint
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Yeah. Some games are just optimized strangely, to the point where it doesn’t matter what card you have.

flint aurora
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ive seen people say that the 2060 is high end but 1080ti is low end becuase it is old

full flint
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that's not how it works lol

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That’s because they’re broke

devout remnant
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@full flint you can exclude them when Titan RTX gets like 1-2 FPS more than a Ti 😂

full flint
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it doesn't

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you can't run quite a few games full-tilt on a 2080ti, they literally only run on Titan V and Titan RTX

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It gets way more. You know how hard you can crank core and memory OCs on a titan?

autumn sluice
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old doesnt always mean less powerful

flint aurora
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exaclty

devout remnant
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@full flint any videos? I only saw when it launched

flint aurora
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my 1800x still kicks butt dude

full flint
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actually, to my knowledge FFXV still can't run full-tilt on anything less than a titan card

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obviously RDR2 can't

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2000 core and 8000 memory is a cake walk for a titan

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nor Star citizen

autumn sluice
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im just irritated with monitors selling out everyhere'

devout remnant
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Mine is 2200 and over 8000

smoky flame
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FFXV didn't that game have a lot of Nvidia gameworks features?

devout remnant
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Still stable

full flint
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Welcome to coronavirus @autumn sluice

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yeah. as well as photogrammetry on literally everything

autumn sluice
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yea ik

full flint
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4k photogrammetry mind you

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which upscales to 8k

autumn sluice
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everytime id find one by the time i got to checkout it was sold out

devout remnant
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I just don’t think a Titan is doing anything in games vs Ti

full flint
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FFXV is a visual powerhouse

smoky flame
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that explains why only titans can manage it then

full flint
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just on textures alone

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RDR2 has a lot more things bogging it down like Volumetric lighting, fog, and ray-marching

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occlusion and other

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but a lot of textures aren't the same spec as FFXV

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so in that regards, FFXV is still the single hardest to run game

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but they added DLSS

flint aurora
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I swear some people upgrade for the sake of upgrading

full flint
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ofc they do

smoky flame
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I think the only real time a Titan comes into its own league is when a 2080 Ti is starved of all its memory (11gb) same scenario but on the Titan RTX would keep going since it has 24GB to use and the rest of the specs between the 2080 Ti and Titan RTX are similar to that of x80 Ti and Titan cards gone by

full flint
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that's called enthusiast

devout remnant
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@smoky flame yeah, next gen rumoured for more too, waiting for 3080 Ti but it always takes so long.

full flint
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there's a reason I haven't personally purchased a new card since 1070 for personal use, I just use one of the studio's card setup in the meantime

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besides. If I can SLI some titans on a xeon board

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I'm gunna do it

devout remnant
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Can’t SLI in my case.

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Would be easy if I could.

smoky flame
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that is mad. Going to need to cool that thing like a nuclear reactor, Dark 😄

full flint
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SLI's anything but easy

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you should see the radiator I've got plugged into it

devout remnant
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No, not when you’re 1440p 240Hz

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CPU can’t keep up

full flint
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I just meant compatibility

devout remnant
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To feed two cards, better performance with 1

full flint
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SLI is an absolute headache

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but I'm still gonna do it just because

SLI titans

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:^ )

devout remnant
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Yeah, the one game I play shifted to AMD anyway, previously was getting 100% scale

full flint
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like, how can you not

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the absurdity of SLI'ing titans is cause enough alone to even bother

devout remnant
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When the cards don’t look nice at all 😅

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Aesthetics get all messed up

smoky flame
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I personally hope SLI dies off in gaming soon. Seeing as most games no longer have support as it stands it looks like it is heading that way but no doubt Nvidia will find a way to bring SLI back, maybe in an altogether different form

full flint
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no, games still have support

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it's usually 4 or 5 games a year that offer it

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big-budget mind you

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Bruh stardew doesn’t have SLI not worth it

smoky flame
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4 or 5 games. Hardly every game and from what I understand performance on these supported titles can really vary too

full flint
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Also people who 980ti SLI in 2020 are hilarious

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Just buy a new card dude

devout remnant
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I remember having a 295 which I believed Nvidia SLI’d internally 🤔

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Or something like that

smoky flame
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only way I'd ever go SLI is if games offered full support for it and actually gave a performance boost equal to two GPUs being in the system. Say I get 100 FPS with one GPU in a game. Well with two I'd be expecting to see exactly 200 FPS otherwise to me SLI just isn't worth it

full flint
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When the 10700k games better than the 3900x evilpatrick

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That 10900k is gonna be delish

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until gen4 ryzen hits

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11900k evilpatrick

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TR4990X

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:^ )

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12900k evilpatrick

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now if only AMD can pull forward and neck-and-neck with NVIDIA on this

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imagine if AMD shifted some of their new earnings into more RnD in the GPU sector

lofty kite
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amd or nvidia or intel

full flint
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intel

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well..

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they have to actually release a full GPU product as it stands

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so they aren't even mentionable

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really it just depends on workload

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If I'm using Adobe software, intel

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...pretty much everything else AMD

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I saw an intel xe gpu somewhere
but id have nvidia gpu or amd one

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for CPU at least

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Intel is moving into the GPU market, yes

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but it's very early and super rough

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that is why I said release instead of "make"

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yes
I won't be getting another PC until a few years into the next console launch
and if I do it won't be gaming-focused
unless 4K 144hz monitors sell for cheap

flint aurora
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@full flint im enthusiast but dont feel the need to upgrade all the time

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plus i dont even need an upgrade for a longgg time

full flint
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enthusiast builders are then same as tech enthusiast

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enthusiast builders always go for latest, greatest, most outlandish

deft saffron
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I think a cpu can last me a long time I seen a rtx 2080 and intel Pentium on assassin creed odyssey video and I seen nofhing wrong

full flint
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I mean

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I'm not an enthuasist of anything tbh
its a very expensive hobby this stuff
sure cars are more but they can last much much longer

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overclocking exists

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a pentium flat won't net you anywhere near what you'd need

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I've seen an intel core 2 duo overclocked to 4Ghz, but any normal person that attempts to do that without knowing what they're doing will fry it

deft saffron
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I wonder if there are videos of it playing flat

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Need to see

full flint
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no, because it can't run flat

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the only person that'd have a video of something like that

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is Lowspecgamer

deft saffron
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What would happen?

full flint
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Death

flint aurora
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i dont think they have to go for the latest things

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to be an enthusiast

full flint
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he would have to prevent entire textures from loading

flint aurora
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id consider myself an enthusiast

full flint
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again

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being a tech enthusiast is not the same as being an enthusiast builder

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XLR8 is an enthusiast builder, as well as tech enthusiast

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Subzero is a tech enthusiast, but not enthusiast builder

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enthusiast builders ALWAYS go for the maddest choices

flint aurora
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true

deft saffron
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Going to hunt for videos of this

flint aurora
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but id still say im a pc enthusiast

deft saffron
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Lol

full flint
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yes, that'd be a tech enthusiast

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you're interested and fascinated by tech

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but you don't care to constantly drop mad bux on a new rig every time something crazy hits the market

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I’m still shocked people buy RGB fans. There’s not a single RGB fan on the planet that’s quiet

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They all suck

flint aurora
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i dont have a source of income so cant 😆

full flint
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@deft saffron this is what it would look like

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and no, that's not just a cheap render for the thumbnail, that's actual screenshots

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if you're fine with your game looking simpler than human fall flat, then by all means

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it literally looks worse than the original assassin's creed's console release

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this is impressive

deft saffron
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Ok I will have to watch on my lunch in 20 mins

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Did he say what gpu he used?

full flint
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it's in the title

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Athlon dual core (200GE APU)

deft saffron
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No it says cpu not gpu

full flint
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Oh boy

devout remnant
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@full flint woooowww I have 13 RGB fans and they quiet !!!

full flint
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He’s running the game off of a chip with integrated graphics

devout remnant
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You hardly hear them at all 😅

full flint
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Am I the only one here who is fine with the og assassins creed console release

deft saffron
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Oh I wanted to see a flat cpu with the current gpus

full flint
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APU

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Accelerated Processing Unit

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it's both a CPU and GPU combined

devout remnant
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@full flint being an enthusiast in the PC space is so boring, tech is toooo slow.

full flint
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Can’t hear it over the room ambience lul

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it's what consoles use now.

devout remnant
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Mine is a tad louder but still not loud

full flint
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That’s 4 140s at 1000rpm and 3 120s at like 9v

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So somewhere around 1000 as well

devout remnant
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I have 3 at 14 and 10 at 12. Wouldn’t know the speed though

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They never spin up

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My GPU will for a few mins if it’s really hot outside which makes the room like a sauna

last warren
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Does anyone play spin tires mud runner American wilds. Looking for a crew to play with. I also have a server on discord for mudrunner.

autumn sluice
deft saffron
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Is there a way to shut off the computer screen after a certain amount of time and not be required to sign back in?

full flint
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yes

deft saffron
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Worked thanks!

full flint
undone dirge
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Just bought some new parts. I got a 3700x, new motherboard and new case

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Going from an i5 6600k to an AMD 3700x

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Quite the upgrade

heavy marsh
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big jump! I'm about to go from a 4790 to a 3600 myself

smoky flame
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nice

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I'm still not 100% sure what my upgrade path should be but I'm sure of one thing. Until Intel move on from 14nm I don't feel "upgrading" to a 10th gen CPU would be worth it since I have a 6700K.
6 core CPUs seem to be the sweet spot for newer games just now so I may just go 3600 or 3600X depending on prices. Heard the 3600X has a better cooler and that if price difference is low enough it may be better to get the 3600X

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the sweet spot I talk about is where higher CPU core counts seemingly add more performance. 8 cores can further add to that but the gains found going 6/12 to 8/16 tend to be smaller than 4/8 to 6/12

torpid heath
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I'm sure an upgrade isn't urgent for your cpu. And I agree, 6 cores will probably be the sweet spot, although single thread performance for games before the rise of cpu core usage is still important. 3600(or X) sounds good!

smoky flame
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well it still games fine. I rarely see my CPU hitting 100% on all cores so I guess my 6700K remains, for now

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Zen3 might be a turning point though

torpid heath
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And it will make zen2 prices go down!

full flint
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Does anyone know of any stores that ship to Ireland that sell RTX 2080 TI so I can abandon my gtx 1070 and play games better then the new xbox coming and laugh at my friends pathetic system?

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My friends system is the new xbox coming

smoky flame
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if I'm planning any upgrades I'd be going with the latest generations at the time where i can start the upgrade so if that is when Zen3 becomes available then Zen2 would be out of the picture

full flint
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Will someone awnser me

smoky flame
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forget the 2080 Ti. Wait for next gen. It is powerful but not worth the cost. Paying quite a premium

full flint
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ok

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Wait

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will the new GPU's come before the consoles?

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I dont wanna feel like a pathetic peasent looking at xbox series x doing ray tracing

smoky flame
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don't know

full flint
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if it doesnt I am getting an RTX 2080 TI

smoky flame
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Nvidia do have an event coming up later this month. 14th or something where something on next gen may be mentioned

full flint
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Ok

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I still need better graphics then consoles though

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because I got a 240HZ 4K monitor for a reason

smoky flame
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I don't like to talk up rumours too much but talk that the 3060 is to be as powerful as the 2080 Ti was (in ray tracing performance) so the 3080 Ti will be an absolute monster, if those rumours become true

full flint
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I will need a 3080 TI as soon as it comes to do 8K gaming on the TV that I will get myself for christmas.

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8K is the true future

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and the new consoles can only do 8K videos

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not gaming

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how pathetic

smoky flame
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I've still to get to 4K. 1080p is fine for me

full flint
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and they will need to wait 8 years to get 8K because they cant upgrade when they feel necesary unless they switch to PC.

errant sorrel
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240hz 4k? which one

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I have 240hz as well but 1080p, didnt even know 4K ones existed already

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Seems pointless because what games are you gonna run on 240fps on 4K anyway

smoky flame
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I don't feel any reason to start some platform war. I'm happy that consoles are finally making use of more recent technologies. That will only benefit us PC gamers just as much as console gamers and the developers themselves. Don't feel the need to rush an upgrade over some console specs

full flint
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3100 and 3300x reviews out

smoky flame
#

heh I think AMD's 3100 beats my 6700K.
tfw some $99 4/8 CPU beats what was a $300 CPU back in 2015 lol

full flint
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well not reviews but benchmark vids

smoky flame
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ok, maybe not the 3100 but by the looks of the the 3300X beats my 6700K which is $120 or so. Bargain really. I like going by Guru3D's reviews and benchmarks and they show quite a leap (in some games) between the 3100 and 3300X

full flint
#

think guru3d has news first

smoky flame
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always love the launch of new PC hardware. Even lower end parts like these can be exciting to look at

autumn sluice
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I'm hoping that by end of year I'll be able to upgrade my r5 2600 and 1650S to something better

smoky flame
#

Zen3, RDNA2 and Nvidia's successor to their Turing GTX/RTX cards could all be released before this year is out. I'd recommend looking at AMD's offerings if you want performance within a budget. Otherwise Nvidia will probably remain the go to option for all out performance

full flint
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rdna 2 is highly likely

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rest I am not sure

devout remnant
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@errant sorrel there is no 4K 240Hz and won’t be for a long time. I’m on 1440p 240Hz and we only just got that.

errant sorrel
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Thats what I thought

golden vessel
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would you say those chips would be compromable to a ryzen 5 1600af

smoky flame
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1600af should have the upper hand on the core count over both the 3100 and 3300X but the newer CPUs will have additional performance through boosts in IPC and other changes somewhat levelling the field, probably giving the newer CPUs an edge even

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B550 motherboard specs sound good btw

full flint
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@devout remnant DP 2.0 was announced last June

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It can do 16k60. 10k60 with no compression

devout remnant
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@full flint sure, but it’s not out yet and no GPU currently supports it

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Going to see 1080p360-480Hz first

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Before 2K & 4K go faster.

smoky flame
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16K60Hz woah!

full flint
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It’s already planned to get faster

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It can run 2 screens of 4k144 uncompressed through simultaneous superspeed USB. 4k240 would be a breeze.

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Also adaption takes no time at all. I bet the ampere line will have it

smoky flame
#

Hope 4K gets cheaper but I doubt it will and even then we could still be looking at £1000+ for most Nvidia gsync ultimate monitors

full flint
#

usb 4.0 is a thing too

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If it doesn’t they’ll release supers with it

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whats the difference between dp 2.0 and usb 4.0 dp alt mode

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DP 2.0 isn’t out yet

devout remnant
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@full flint it’s one thing DP being able to do it and another for displays to actually appear on the market and also be more than 1080p. We still a few years out from that tbh.

full flint
#

Nah they’ll be here within a year

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We’ve had 4k144 for a year or two now

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https://vesa.org/featured-articles/vesa-releases-updated-displayport-alt-mode-spec-to-bring-displayport-2-0-performance-to-usb4-and-new-usb-type-c-devices/
coming to type c as well

VESA - Interface Standards for The Display Industry
bill
VESA Releases Updated DisplayPort™ Alt Mode Spec to Bring DisplayPo...

DisplayPort Alt Mode version 2.0 enables all of the latest capabilities of DisplayPort through the USB Type-C connector, including beyond-8K resolution and higher refresh rates, along with USB data delivery SAN JOSE, Calif. – April 29, 2020 – The Video Electronics Standards As...

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2 years

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FYI hdmi 2.1 can already do 4k240 with chroma compression

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And hdmi has always been the inferior cable in terms of bandwidth

smoky flame
#

the fact it requires compression already doesn't sound ideal

full flint
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That’s because it doesn’t have the bandwidth for uncompressed

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DP2.0 will

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cant hdmi carry 7.1 uncompressed audio etc though?

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yes

full flint
full flint
#

oh, Bright Memory is up to $10 now, it was $5 when I bought it. Dev's a legend

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owners of the original get infinite free too
or however it works

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yes.

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the original is more or less a demo/Proof-of-concept

full flint
tribal pilot
#

Trying to see what kind of ram I have. Where would I go to see that?

worthy jackal
#

Task manager

tribal pilot
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Thanks

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Will it be able to tell me if I have ddr3 or ddr4?

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The sticks have nothing on them so lol

smoky flame
#

what CPU do you have?

torpid heath
#

it should be able to tell you

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also motherboard compatibilities will tell you

full flint
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@tribal pilot yes

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it will also display the clock speed

tribal pilot
#

I have a I7-8700 I think I have ddr3. Would it make a difference getting ddr4? It’s says it 3k clock speed

full flint
#

DDR4 is better at a few things, higher clock speeds as well.

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but I'd wait and see how DDR5 turns out

torpid heath
#

ddr5 may take a while to properly come out for consumers

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but if you can wait a few years, maybe it'll be worth it

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(or ddr4 prices may go down)

tribal pilot
#

So if I did get ddr4 what differences would I notice? How much does it effect graphics?

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So wait for 30 series graphics cards and ddr5 and purchase then. Hopefully I don’t have to upgrade anything else. Well maybe the power supply.

full flint
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thoughr the 8700 was ddr4 thonk

tribal pilot
#

Maybe I do have ddr4 lol it’s 3k speed so that sounds right.

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It’s weird they are just blank sticks with no name or brand that cane with the pc.

autumn sluice
#

Oem

flint aurora
#

@tribal pilot yeah, an 8700 has to run on ddr4, it's the only memory format it utilises

full flint
#

DDR5 will be releasing this year @torpid heath

full flint
#

source?

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it's almost like they've stated it numerous times. ECC DDR5's already been released to select enterprises

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likely testbed releases

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oh enterprise

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no. read what I said

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I have seen SK Hynix ddr5 coming but not ddr5 to mainstream platforms

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hynix is producer

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just like micron and samsung

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their name does not mean anything special

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the performance boost will be enough for me.

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but I'm waiting for micron

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hynix are the definition of high failure-rate

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amd roadmaps point to 2022 idk about intel ones

full flint
full flint
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Just bought a silverstone pf360

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My thermaltake water 3.0 360 makes so much pump noise that I’m just getting rid of it

full flint
#

Changed my mind and canceledlul

old skiff
full flint
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GPU

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unless you're planning to do some expensive stuff

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(resource-expensive)

old skiff
#

Nah just gaming, literally just gaming

full flint
#

some games might be bottlenecked by both admittedly

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so just be aware of that

#

it's more or less a budget build

old skiff
#

Yeah it is a budget build, but I was thinking maybe the 2060 or a 1070ti

full flint
#

NVIDIA's conference is on the 15th

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people are anticipating the announcement of the 3000 series

old skiff
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Huh, maybe I should just wait then.

full flint
#

rumor mill has significant performance increase

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like..significant

old skiff
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Oh that’s true, and then 2000 series will drop price most likely.

full flint
#

admittedly, doubtful

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the 10 series for example, are still priced relatively high

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and if the performance increase has a shred of truth in it, which it probably does, then it wouldn't be worth getting anything other than a 30 series or AMD RDNA2 gpu

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either way I'd wait and see

old skiff
#

So I assume you recommend just wait till 15th? I mean it’s just a week.

full flint
#

yeah. I recommend waiting

old skiff
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So that’s not bad, also I never considered AMD cards tbh.

full flint
#

I recommended waiting even before the date was announced

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It's of my personal inclination that the turing cards just aren't worth it performance-wise

old skiff
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True enough, okay well thank you. I’ll look into it’s cause I mostly planned on just 1080p gaming anyways.

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4K and Raytracing seem cool, but they’re not really a priority tbh.

full flint
#

When is Corsair going to restock stuff

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they will be soon enough

plucky marsh
#

Man, is £1000 considered budget now? 😥

full flint
#

Ampere (30 series) is focusing on increasing path-tracing performance significantly

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Yezir

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yeah. it's been budget for a while

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circa-2016

old skiff
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@plucky marsh A “moderate build” is literally like 1700 bucks.

full flint
#

$1k is commonly said to be a good save-up amount for a PC

plucky marsh
#

Looked at those specs and it was better than my laptop and I can still play most Ultra still

full flint
#

a high-end pc usually sits around 2700-3600

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depending

old skiff
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And if AMD wasn’t so price competitive, PCs would be a minimum 2000 for an okay build.

plucky marsh
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Jheeze... Maybe I need to stick to consoles.

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Didn't realise they could be that expensive

full flint
#

let's see what AMD has to offer with RDNA2

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for desktop cards I mean

old skiff
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Didn’t AMD technically beat Intel, and made the CPU literally cheaper?

full flint
#

intel got complacent

old skiff
#

I remember hearing that from a couple servers.

full flint
#

they focused more in profit-margins than actually working towards major improvements

smoky flame
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when there are GPUs like the 2080 Ti that are priced at £999+ PC gaming can get bonkers expensive and that is not the worst of it

full flint
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e.g. focusing only on single-core

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which was ultimately destined to die eventually

#

even now there's quite a few games that support, or even focus on multithreading

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and now that series X is going to have SMT, and sony will have some form of MT

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it's going to be a norm for games

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and AMD will shine

old skiff
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I don’t think that many game devs will demand their games higher specs for at least 2 years. Considering 70-80 percent of PC Gamers own a 1060 6GB

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As their main GPU from what I heard

full flint
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“Some form of MT”

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Poor Sony lol

old skiff
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Wdym MT

full flint
#

multithreading

old skiff
#

Oof

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Good thing I’m making the switch to PC then.

full flint
#

the issue is it's still dependent on console

#

same with consoles and PC

#

Yeah and those 70-80% probably need to change their thermal compound and are going to experience card failures soon because of it

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they're symbiotic in evolution

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and since Series X is in 2080Ti performance range

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in an unoptimized state

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NVIDIA has to save face after saying that console wouldn't be as strong as the 2080

smoky flame
#

The Division 2 is an AMD featured game and I think it can show off what can be done with CPU cores and threads. 4/4 doesn't seem to do too well. Even in DirectX 11 it appears to love threads - the more, the merrier

old skiff
#

As much as I want to build my own PC, it’s just a lot safer if I get the shop to do it for me. Cause they have 3 year warranty for 40 bucks.

full flint
#

it's not really hard to build one

old skiff
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On every part.

heavy marsh
#

Adult LEGO

full flint
#

the only way it would be is if you had an unlabeled motherboard

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but those are rarely produced anymore

plucky marsh
#

I always get mine built for me lol, they stress test it and other stuff too

full flint
#

yeah, it's literally just lego with cables

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and you learn a lot

old skiff
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@full flint Oh I know I built one with my buddy before, the most “difficult” part was the cable management.

quasi storm
#

Cable management is fun agooglepurpleheart

full flint
#

@full flint

heavy marsh
#

and you learn a lot about yourself lol

full flint
#

post it

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I have my case open at all times

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despite it not being designed around it

heavy marsh
#

is that how your cats keep peeing in stuff? 😛

full flint
#

no

#

my cat's just a few marbles short

smoky flame
#

I cried when I built my first PC. Just felt so happy completing it and seeing it boot up successfully for the first time

old skiff
#

Also, all of my buddies said I’m better off using the stock cooler.

full flint
#

because that was my xbox, which was on my desk

old skiff
#

Is that true? For AMD?

plucky marsh
#

I can put a computer together I just, don't want to lol

heavy marsh
#

dark member seeing the one build here with the HDD all over the place

full flint
#

stock cooler should never be a recommendation

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I LOVE CABLE MANAGEMENT

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only if in necessity

quasi storm
#

Hi5

heavy marsh
#

hang on ima pull the card. the stock wraith on the ry 3/5 is fine if you're NOT OCing

full flint
#

I HAVE CABLE EXTENTUONS COMING ON SUNDAY

old skiff
#

Cause I plan on using the stock cooler for only about 6-8 months and then going liquid.

full flint
#

I had to frankenstein a PSU together

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so my cable's are just kinda flowing out the back

smoky flame
#

Dark, at least AMD throw in a stock cooler that works, even if not ideal. It will still cool the CPU

full flint
#

yeah

old skiff
#

This isn’t a permanent build, I’m more using this as a foundation then anything cause I have no patience.

full flint
#

but it shouldn't be a recommendation

heavy marsh
#

temps are nominal, though not preferred

full flint
#

which is what I said

plucky marsh
#

I thought temperatures were marked out of 100? Higher the better

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Once I scored 105

heavy marsh
#

yeah anything over 100 and youre doing great!! /s

plucky marsh
#

Mine shuts down at 105, but usually happily sits around 100

old skiff
#

I got it! I’ll use an FX with a stock cooler

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That’ll get my temps up

full flint
#

don't forget the fermi card

heavy marsh
#

just turn on an FX

#

thatll heat a whole house

full flint
#

gotta have NVIDIA: the way it's meant to be played

quasi storm
#

Mine sits right next to my portable heater, what's wrong with that?

heavy marsh
#

nothing

#

thats smart

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Smart Heat Delivery ™️

old skiff
#

I wish I could post memes, cause there was a picture of an FX without a cooler. And then it showed a house burning down.

quasi storm
#

It doesn't freeze up at least KannaSip

full flint
#

😉

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"may"

#

😂

heavy marsh
#

seems normal

old skiff
#

“May” that CPU would literally go away like Thanos snapped.

#

In like a day or less

smoky flame
#

I can't wait to upgrade my 6700K and ditch Intel for AMD

old skiff
#

Yeah I hear a lot of devs are also putting AMD first

full flint
#

a day

old skiff
#

Before Intel now

full flint
#

that would have vaporized long before 1000c

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in seconds

old skiff
#

The melting point of most metals are 1000 C

#

CPUs have a lot of copper iirc, so it would literally melt.

smoky flame
#

I wonder how the stock cooler cools the 3900X. 12 cores and 24 threads. I bet that gets hot

full flint
#

Basically stock cooling for stock clocks

#

If you OC or even just use the intended boost, you’re screwed

old skiff
#

This is a good build?

#

Cause I’m thinking of just using a 1070ti

heavy marsh
#

very similar to what im currently building

full flint
#

Well yes but don’t buy right now

heavy marsh
#

and this ^^^

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i had to skrrrrrt on err'thing because AMD

full flint
#

You’re spending so much extra money. All of those prices are inflated

old skiff
#

I won’t I’ll wait till the 15th

full flint
#

No like

#

Till coronavirus is over

heavy marsh
#

is it inflated? COVID?

#

ah fair

old skiff
#

Oh, they’re pretty good. You’re reading them in Canadian.

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It’s in Canadian dollars

heavy marsh
#

depending on use, i'd opt for the Ry5 3600, or even the newly announced Ry3 3300x

old skiff
#

That build is around 800 USD

smoky flame
#

I think the price of the motherboard could be dropped a little, dcooby. Asus do a lot of other motherboards within B450. Try looking at the price of the Asus TUF motherboards

full flint
#

That cpu goes for $155 in Canada normally

heavy marsh
#

id be buying the flippin 3300x if they allowed me to. sales were supposed to go live today but i'm over here lookin at my watch like Sonic

full flint
#

That board about $165-170

#

Sometimes $150

#

That power supply $85-95

#

I can keep going lol

#

Ram as low as 70

old skiff
#

Is the 3300x better then the 2600?

heavy marsh
#

depending on use, some argue the price to performance is better

#

use + expectations

old skiff
#

Literally just gaming, preferably Ultra settings on 1080p

#

I don’t mind 4K

heavy marsh
#

ill defer to XLR8 but i dont think we're in 4k mode with that CPU/GPU combo listed

smoky flame
#

3300X has less cores than the 2600 but performance should be better since it is newer, makes use of a newer microarchitecture (Zen2 vs Zen+) and all it's optimizations over its predecessor

old skiff
#

Oh no this is easily a 1080p build

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I meant to say 4K isn’t really a priority for me. I’d much rather have the higher refresh rate then the pretty resolution.

full flint
#

What’s the prices for both for you

heavy marsh
full flint
#

Also, you should bump your ram to 3600mhz cas16

heavy marsh
#

man i love when you talk numbers, XLR8

full flint
#

Best ram for 2nd and 3rd gen ryzens

old skiff
#

You know you can edit the build right?

full flint
#

Yeah but I’m lazy

heavy marsh
#

yeah but then he has to invoice you (/s)

full flint
#

Gotta learn, not be shown

heavy marsh
#

teach a man to eat a fish... something something

smoky flame
#

that 3300X is a monster

full flint
#

3600mhz
Cas latency of 16

smoky flame
#

wouldn't be surprised if it puts my 6700K to shame 😦

heavy marsh
#

it makes the 9400F cry sad tears

smoky flame
#

won't have to worry about any CPU issues soon (I hope)

#

planning to go 3600 + B550 or waiting for Zen3

heavy marsh
#

im trying to hold out for the b550, but my BSODs are getting out of control

full flint
#

Should just get a 450 and dump the extra money into a better processor

heavy marsh
#

think so?

full flint
#

3700 450 would crush a 3600 550

old skiff
#

Does this look better now?

smoky flame
#

wrong tuf motherboard

old skiff
#

Which one

smoky flame
#

there is an ATX one cheaper but out of stock 😦

#

was working out around $40 cheaper than the strix F you had before that tuf

full flint
#

Bruh 200 for a micro board I’m ResidentSleeper

smoky flame
full flint
#

Oh yeah

#

So not only is everything inflated

#

But two thirds of the pc part market is sold out entirely

heavy marsh
#

thats my issue

#

cant find ANYTHING anymore

full flint
#

I’m still waiting for Corsair to restock on liquid coolers

smoky flame
#

Thanos been snapping up those PC parts 😄

full flint
#

Right now you’re compromising AND spending more money

heavy marsh
#

XLR8 what are you using for your reference on parts price history?

full flint
#

The graph in the pc part picker description

heavy marsh
#

cool, wasnt sure if you had other sources

#

was just curious

smoky flame
#

look on the good side. PC is making a killing right now if two thirds of what's available is gone. Lots of new PC gamers

heavy marsh
#

also lots of folks working from home and needed to upgrade

full flint
#

Lots of folks needing to build PCs outright

smoky flame
#

btw, what sort of CPU cooler would be recommended for a Zen2 CPU besides the stock cooler? Prefer to stick to air coolers

full flint
#

Demand just went up 100x and production went down to almost nothing

#

So now there’s no product and the companies are just like

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

We can’t even get the parts in the first place

full flint
#

wait thought both of you were UK?

mellow vector
#

crossplay for minecraft windows 10 doesnt show up as an option for me

#

can anyone help?

full flint
#

Bedrock version has crossplay. Java does not

#

Crossplay is enabled automatically. Just invite however you see fit

#

@mellow vector

mellow vector
#

it doesn’t show up though, I’m on bedrock edition

#

it just says add friends and join realms no “add cross play friends”

tribal pilot
#

Anybody tell me how much of a difference between index and oculus rift. Is it worth it? Like is index 100 percent better or only slightly?

loud umbra
#

Help for Gears Tactics: why it looks so "Muddy"? Nvidia 1060 Overclocked, Setting set to middle, Texture Pack on high It doesn't matter what I enter, it always looks like this (Picture in #233805809346150400 Thanks for Tipps

heavy marsh
#

Wondering if XLR8 is awake

maiden ingot
#

envie de jouer en multi sur farming on t'attend viens sur mon profil et clik sur mon discord 😉

full flint
#

english only

full flint
#

@mellow vector just click add friends

flint aurora
#

@tribal pilot not worth it. Rift s is plenty good

full flint
#

htc vive is most popular fron april survey

#

It depends

#

Rift is very basic

#

It’s ok but not great

#

Vive had more marketing for a longer period. Better quality than the rift as well

#

Index is new

#

It has a lot more features and they’re planning for expansions to it via the slot card

#

Headset wise the index is significantly better

#

Knuckles or not are really up to you if you actually plan to use full VR

plucky marsh
#

Knuckles are best VR controllers there are too I would argue

full flint
#

Oh. Undeniably

plucky marsh
#

I think oculus will take over Vive soon though

full flint
#

But some people only use HMD

plucky marsh
#

As in % of users

full flint
#

the problems I have with vr is you need the pc for some games to take full advantage
also motion sickness
also whats hmd

#

Due to using HOTAS

plucky marsh
#

Quest doesn't need a PC and runs things very well

#

And motion sickness is hit and miss, you can train yourself to not be effected

full flint
#

i mean like skyrim vr and half life alyx

plucky marsh
#

I was one of the lucky ones that feels absolutely fine

full flint
#

It runs things fine. But it doesn’t run things great

#

It’s good entry level or just to have a VR kit

#

But by no means an exceptional set

#

i wait for wmr to take off
or new technologies

plucky marsh
#

Yeah let me rephrase, it runs things very well for a wireless PC less alternative

full flint
#

PIMAX are the best HMD available, but are also extremely expensive

#

And require a very powerful rig

#

But they pair with knuckles

#

Since they don’t have handsets of their own

plucky marsh
#

I'm happy Valve and MS are working together

full flint
#

No

plucky marsh
#

I heard about another HMD the other day that was aiming for 8K, can't remember the name of it though

full flint
#

I would never buy a pimax set from amazon

#

PIMAX is the 8k one

plucky marsh
#

Oh, maybe that's why I remembered it when you said the name then

full flint
#

oh

#

is that 2 4k screens?

#

Yes. Dual 4k

#

how do you even drive that
you need rtx titan?

#

And require a very powerful rig

plucky marsh
#

It's a shame the current windows VR kits are so poor

full flint
#

the wmr?

#

i thought they were hybrid ones

plucky marsh
#

Yeah there's a few different branded ones scattered across

#

Maybe if they sold better it would have been a different story for console VR

full flint
#

I like the hololens concept over VR headsets personally

plucky marsh
#

Yeah I like the look of hololens, but I think VR will be more immersive and I like that about games

full flint
#

is the audio experience good too?
on the index

#

Hololens is definitely more business focused as well

#

aw

#

yeah saw the price

modest vine
#

Wait what why was I pinged—

mellow vector
#

Wtf

#

@full flint that brings me to the xbox companion app

full flint
#

You add people via Microsoft account

#

Aka Xbox account

#

Aka gamertag

full flint
#

meaning you need to sign in

plucky marsh
#

Yeah the audio is amazing on the index @full flint

full flint
#

ah nice

plucky marsh
#

The other headsets I've used weren't anywhere bear as good, or I had to plug in my own earphones to get a decent sound

flint aurora
#

@full flint the rift a I was on a out tho

#

The rift s has 2nd best contrlers in the business

autumn sluice
#

Oh what

#

Oops clicked wrong link my bad

#

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Ampere-to-offer-10-20-IPC-increase-over-Turing-4x-RT-performance-with-minimal-FPS-impact-up-to-2-GHz-OC-clocks-and-an-overhauled-software-stack-to-take-on-AMD-RDNA-2-0.464033.0.html

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NVIDIA Ampere to offer 10-20% IPC increase over Turing, 4x RT perfo...

New information pertaining to NVIDIA's upcoming Ampere architecture was revealed by Tom from the YouTube channel Moore's Law is Dead claiming to have access to insider sources associated with the launch. As per the sources, Turing is just a guinea pig experiment with Ampere ex...

smoky flame
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20% IPC increase over Turing? That isn't very much at all. Ray tracing performance boost of 4 times. That could be impressive but I'll wait to see how these GPUs perform and how they are priced

full flint
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@smoky flame IPC means next to nothing for GPU metrics

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It’s a metric for CPUs

mellow vector
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@full flint but I’m trying to play cross-play, the option doesn’t show up for me on minecraft bedrock edition.

full flint
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It’s built-in

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There are no options, no tick boxes, nothing

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You invite people via Microsoft account

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Start up the game, click sign in to Microsoft account in the bottom left or right

mellow vector
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i get what you mean now

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ay sorry for the inconvenience

smoky flame
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well whatever the metric for GPU performance increase is again if it turns out Turing to Ampere is only a 20% increase that is pretty disappointing. Hate to sound like some spoiled brat as I'm aware Nvidia's focus is probably more on ray tracing than general compute performance but unless Ampere offers some serious improvements (besides the ray tracing improvements) architecturally it may be another GPU generation I don't touch. Fingers crossed that isn't the case

full flint
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I want the best ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Every advantage I can get is one I will use to kick your teeth in

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More frames, less latency, more teeth kicking.

full flint
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Nvidia Hopper is already a thing so we will see...

full flint
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halo 2 pc

tall geyser
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anyone wana play gta5 on steam?

full flint
autumn sluice
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Thoughts?

full flint
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my thoughts are it's currently unavailable

autumn sluice
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It's in and outta stock daily

plucky marsh
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Thought it was interesting for those not sure on VR as expensive

full flint
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its the skyrim guy

plucky marsh
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He's pretty well known around the source engine community too

full flint
plucky marsh
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Does MW Warzone make anyone else's FPS drop significantly? Even with things down low I still take constant hits below 60.

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Are there any tips or should I just move to xbox

full flint
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Unless your PC is less powerful than an Xbox, no

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If you really need more FPS, lower your texture resolution. This is coupled with a couple loading distance values and is the largest differential

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That’s how they get it to work on consoles. Low texture resolutions and you can’t see anything past 150m as a result

plucky marsh
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OK thanks I'll try that

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It's only Warzone unfortunately. MP works fine on ultra 60+ fps

full flint
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or enforce the use of dedicatee gpu

plucky marsh
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Didn't seem to make much of a difference considering I went from all Ultra to all low. I'll need to figure it out I guess

full flint
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must be something else
you use a laptop right?

plucky marsh
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Yeah

full flint
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try setting to ultimate performance and see if forcing the use of the dgpu does anything

full flint
autumn sluice
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Does anyone else get mad when ppl are like oh I know how to increase your fps in this game but their setup is like a 9900k and 2080ti

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Like how bout someone use a build that requires things tweaked to get fps increases

flint aurora
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Yeah lol

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Tbh warzone is quite badly optimised

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I get about 100fps at high settings

smoky flame
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I try to avoid warzone. Last time I played it I hardly noticed any performance issues with it and I play at maxed settings

flint aurora
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I don't get any pefo issues just doesn't run as well as It should

full flint
heavy marsh
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hahahaha

torpid heath
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RGB RGB RGB

full flint
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It’s not badly optimized, it’s just extremely demanding and they couple settings together rather than let you adjust each graphic settings individually

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Like I said earlier with texture resolution and render distance

plucky marsh
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Yeah, thanks for the tip but unfortunately it made almost no difference between ultra and low. I assume it's an issue on my end at this point. Thanks though for the help 🙂

autumn sluice
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Update drivers

torpid heath
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is your CPU a bottleneck? If not, then I'm not sure

wind bobcat
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hey does anyone wanna play anything i just got my pc and have no friends really give me suggestions on games to get to

smoky flame
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Welcome to PC gaming 🙂
for a start I recommend you check out Xbox PC game pass. Has over 100 games, something for everyone. Then there is the likes of uplay+ from Ubisoft and origin access premier from EA.
All of the above that I mentioned are subscription services. Once they stack up it can become quite expensive to keep them all going but the value on the games and content imo is worth it. Hard to argue otherwise I think

wind bobcat
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way ahead of you already got it thank you for the friendly welcome!

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im looking for a game where i can hop in a call with my friends and play with eachother

full flint
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try the free ones on steam
apex legends is free on origin
rest I am not sure

plucky marsh
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There's that fortnite party thing going on too

full flint
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thats £2500

plucky marsh
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Nice, too mu h RGB though so yeah would have to change the case

flint aurora
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That's a similar case to mine lol

heavy marsh
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has anyone had any luck even pre-ordering the 3300x? i cant find it anywhere

flint aurora
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Obsidian 900d SE RGB?

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Same aio too

full flint
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21st may for the 3300x
in UK
scan UK

heavy marsh
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ah, i was seeing launch dates of may 12 here in US but couldnt find a drop

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ty

full flint
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ok amazon Uk has it listed too

heavy marsh
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not US 🙃

full flint
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huh

heavy marsh
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US's amazon site doesnt have it listed

full flint
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is that the same for everywhere even newegg?

keen knot
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c:

heavy marsh
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yeah, not on newegg

full flint
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i seen that somewhere

analog sapphire
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🤣

lavish crater
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who wants to join my java realm dm me

full flint
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@full flint I think I found a good monitor

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I want your thoughts

obsidian bobcatBOT
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Warning ID: 1961
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Reason: I said no self promotion

obsidian bobcatBOT
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Warning ID: 1962
Successfully warned @normal anvil
Reason: no means no

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@normal anvil has been auto muted for: 30 minutes

torpid heath
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Hey guys any idea why when I try to download the newest halo mcc update (via Microsoft store/Xbox app) it doesn't work. But when I use my antivirus' inbuilt VPN it starts downloading?

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Like it will keep trying to download but it's stuck at 46.50MB with 0bytes/sec (no VPN)

full flint
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I remember that ps3 monitor

full flint
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then you must also remember that ***IT'S 240HZ ***

full flint
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oh dont remember that but I remember seeing a few out there

tribal pilot
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Anybody here Own a index? Do you do super sampling on it? For my oculus there's a major increase In the way it looks with supersampling. I'm wondering if that is not as noticeable a thing on index cause it has a better display.

full flint
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As your resolution goes up, supersampling and antialiasing effects go down in noticeability

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By that I mean 1080p/4k is much more noticeable than 4k/8k

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That’s why people say things like “you don’t need antialiasing in 4k”
Like well yeah you don’t need it but it still helps, just not as much as it does at 1080p

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So if you compare your oculus to the index and find the index has a higher resolution, that’s why

full flint
smoky flame
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£275 for the 10600K. Ouch. AMD's 6 cores and 12 thread offerings are around £100 cheaper

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looks like I won't be going Intel for my upgrade. Held off to see the prices on 10th gen just in case but yeah. Clear path to AMD it would seem

full flint
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I'm sure people will still buy that cpu

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but the others I have no idea

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id get the kf or ks though I think the difference is no integrated graphics and its cheaper too

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wait only £10-£20 more than the i7 9700k the i7 10700KF

smoky flame
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people will still buy these Intel CPUs for sure but I just can't see any reason why most would. Comparing Ryzen 9 and Intel i9 on Scan.
i9 starts at £520 (10900KF) and for an extra £10 you get the 10900K. 10 cores, 20 threads.
Ryzen 9 starts at £440 (3900X) and goes up to £699 (3950X) but for those prices you get 12 cores and 24 threads or 16 cores and 32 threads.
3900X being £80 cheaper and having an additional 2 cores and 4 threads over the 10900K/KF looks crazy value for money imo but of course, no gamer really needs 10, 12 or 16 cores really

full flint
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Cores and threads are only 2 metrics to determining a CPUs value against its price

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You’re not taking into account IPC, clock rate, type of usage, or the rest of the parts it’s being partnered with.

smoky flame
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I know, core count and of course IPC and clock rate I could factor in but type of usage and other parts is just too varied imo

full flint
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With the 10600 vs the 3600 you’re getting .6ghz higher boost with 15% better performance across the board

smoky flame
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paying as much as £100 more though for that

full flint
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These chips also follow intels usual high room for overclocking so 5ghz is probably doable for most systems.

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If you’re looking for most FPS out of a sub $300 processor, that’s it

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That’s the little niche spot intel keeps filling

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Highest performance

slow swift
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Yo

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Anyone know why I cant download the xbox insider hub and I have all requirements

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i think

smoky flame
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thing is the prices I see on Scan put the 10600K almost in line with AMD's 8 core CPUs (Ryzen 7) and those CPUs in the very near future may soon become the new sweet spot for gamers and performance

full flint
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AMD is still king of value, which is what most people go for

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But Intel is still king of gaming performance

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Which many people are willing to give up

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But not all, and that’s why they’re still selling

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I feel like I heard this before

smoky flame
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I think the whole value vs performance thing has really taken arms and legs since AMD got competitive. Honestly can't wait to see what Zen3 brings

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anyways, I personally couldn't see myself paying £275 on Intel's 10600K. My whole issue with Intel just now is they are stuck with 14nm. My 6700K is 14nm, from 2015. I fear I won't see a significant enough upgrade to warrant an upgrade

full flint
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I mean it’s a bad spot to fill when it’s your only spot ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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That’s why AMD is outselling them

smoky flame
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sometimes I wonder just how much Intel has squeezed out of 14nm. Is it still stable? are there compromises? so many questions. I really hope Intel return to the whole tick-tock model. Tick (new fabrication process) - tock (new micro architecture). No more refreshes 😦

full flint
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As your resolution goes up, supersampling and antialiasing effects go down in noticeability
@full flint
Anybody here Own a index? Do you do super sampling on it? For my oculus there's a major increase In the way it looks with supersampling. I'm wondering if that is not as noticeable a thing on index cause it has a better display.
@tribal pilot
Basically, what XLR8 is referring to, is that it's computationally cheaper to increase pixel count than it is to turn up antialiasing

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AA is always one of the biggest performance hits in games

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ultimately, yes, there will be a point at which AA won't be used anymore, but that will be the point at which pixel determinability is no longer existent with a naked eye

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somewhere around 32k-40k resolution

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which I'd say are probably 2-2.5 decades out

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for mass adoption I mean

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the adoption-rate curve from 480>720, 720>1080, 1080>4k, and now 4k>8k has been diminishing exponentially

modest gulch
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*1080 > 2160, 2160 > 4320

sterile thunder
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because i have almost no vram, some of the textures look better in classic than they do in anniversary (Halo 2)

full flint
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Randy. Now listen here you little... obviously I mean the actual resolutions since UHD and 4K native are different. But to the common rabble we just simplify

torpid heath
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1080 ftw

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also few people go from 1080 to 2160, its usually straight to 4k

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thats what I think anyway

full flint
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Is this man for real

heavy marsh
full flint
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@torpid heath 2160p is 4K

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4K UHD

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True 4K is never used in displays

torpid heath
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I meant 1440p

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Woops

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Hehe...😅

full flint
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Very few people jump to 1440p

torpid heath
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Yeah that's what I meant

autumn sluice
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1440p is good for budget gamers

torpid heath
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um, wouldnt 1080p be for 'budget'

autumn sluice
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Budget doesn't have to be just one thing

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Just like there isnt just one budget gpu or CPU, there's multiple you can choose

torpid heath
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True

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Budget is subjective too I guess

full flint
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You could go budget quality with 1440p60 or budget performance with 1080p144

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Or just straight budget cheap with 1080p60

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1440p causes a lot of issues with scaling

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Since it’s not universally supported