#pc-gaming | XBOX | Page 59

full flint Apr 4, 2020, 5:20 AM

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https://www.pcgamer.com/ddr5-memory-enters-mass-production-this-year-paving-the-way-to-8400mbps-kits/

pcgamer

DDR5 memory enters mass production this year, paving the way to 8,4...

Then we wait for AMD and Intel to launch DDR5 platforms.

full flint Apr 4, 2020, 6:46 AM

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yeah heare that, from sk hynix right?

smoky flame Apr 4, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Can't wait to see DDR5 in action. Most people likely won't need it for some time and some programs may not even be ready for it properly. Amazing to think electronics in general can be made more power efficient and powerful than a predecessor

full flint Apr 4, 2020, 8:16 AM

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thats standard stuff

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if you go back to last century computers were the size of rooms at one point

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hynix is garbage

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I'll wait until Micron or Samsung ships their consumer DIMM

smoky flame Apr 4, 2020, 8:40 AM

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tables could turn with DDR5 unless Hynix are consistently garbage?

full flint Apr 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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aight lads, i got a dillema. should i play Frostpunk or AC Odyssey?

desert shell Apr 4, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Odyssey

delicate coral Apr 4, 2020, 4:44 PM

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hello, peoples how are yours?

full flint Apr 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Samsung ram or die

unreal osprey Apr 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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does anyone hear use the xbox (beta) for the pc and knows how to fix the problem that keeps closing my games as soon as i try to open them

full flint Apr 4, 2020, 5:21 PM

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I have never heard of that issue sorry bud

unreal osprey Apr 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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no problem

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its really weird i cant launch a single game on it

full flint Apr 4, 2020, 7:58 PM

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@smoky flame hynix have the highest fail rates of any memory manufacturer

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imagine Seagate back when they were infamous for failures

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multiply that by 2

full flint Apr 4, 2020, 9:12 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykKhmHTBSk4

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Project Borealis

Project Borealis - Wind & Air Drag

In this developer update, Dan Toškan provides an overview of the wind and air drag systems we're developing for Project Borealis.

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"Unreal Engine's wasn't good enough" story of my life

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still, very neat work on simulations...especially for a Half-Life fan-project

plucky marsh Apr 4, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Yeah looking forward to that project.

dapper brook Apr 5, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Can I just say that xb game bar is garbage

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Legit

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It randomly decided to make like 10 or 11 of my clips just a blank white screen with game audio

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And then stopped breaking my recordings

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Because reasons

full flint Apr 5, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Have you attempted to troubleshoot it instead of complain?

dapper brook Apr 5, 2020, 10:24 AM

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No, because it fixed itself

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But the affected recordings are just completely destroyed

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I looked it up and some other dude had the same problem

full flint Apr 5, 2020, 10:26 AM

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It doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be troubleshooted.

dapper brook Apr 5, 2020, 10:26 AM

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So I just switched to using the GeForce overlay because I don't want to deal with it

full flint Apr 5, 2020, 10:26 AM

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If it has that issue then something caused it. It doesn’t just break

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I’ve had more shadowplay issues than gamebar

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Make sure you have a proper scratch disk as well

dapper brook Apr 5, 2020, 10:26 AM

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It was working, then it broke, then it fixed itself all in the same game session

full flint Apr 5, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Yeah. That’s not gamebar. Something caused that.

dapper brook Apr 5, 2020, 10:28 AM

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All I had running was Steam and the game I was playing

full flint Apr 5, 2020, 2:03 PM

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https://youtu.be/GHWNHtDSdJ8
looks like someone did it

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Optimum Tech

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smoky flame Apr 5, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Finally got Modern Warfare installing on my PC properly! 20GB or so to go as of this message. Best progress I've managed to make with the download the past few attempts.

potent stream Apr 5, 2020, 3:18 PM

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no

plucky marsh Apr 5, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Yeah, it's got better past few days. Hopefully they don't corrupt the download again.

jagged chasm Apr 6, 2020, 2:01 PM

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does anyone know how to make the computer look like a console?

full flint Apr 6, 2020, 2:24 PM

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outside or inside?
if software you need to use a ton of third party apps

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otherwise nzxt h1 case is the way forwards

jagged chasm Apr 6, 2020, 2:26 PM

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inside

full flint Apr 6, 2020, 2:26 PM

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like hardware?
or software

jagged chasm Apr 6, 2020, 2:27 PM

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software

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I need software that makes it look like a console

full flint Apr 6, 2020, 2:33 PM

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oh
the closest you will get is steam big picture mode
if you want it to look like an xbox i believe you may need third party apps
not sure if you can customise gog 2.0 to that level

full flint Apr 6, 2020, 4:47 PM

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anyone know any good 4K textures for skyrim se?
or do you need invidual mods

autumn sluice Apr 6, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Most of the good ones are for of skyrim

full flint Apr 6, 2020, 7:07 PM

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og you mean?

full flint Apr 7, 2020, 12:38 AM

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@autumn sluice no that's not true at all

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there's more SE mods than og mods now

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almost all of the good texture mods are on SE

autumn sluice Apr 7, 2020, 12:38 AM

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thonk

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📎 Screenshot_20200406-204045.png

full flint Apr 7, 2020, 12:42 AM

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not all mods are on nexus

autumn sluice Apr 7, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Most of em are

full flint Apr 7, 2020, 3:51 AM

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less than half @autumn sluice

autumn sluice Apr 7, 2020, 3:58 AM

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thonk

full flint Apr 7, 2020, 3:58 AM

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If you want to call that "most" then by all means

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but 500 of the 763 mods I have installed aren't available on nexus as well.

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that's for SE alone

full flint Apr 7, 2020, 6:48 AM

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wait they arent?
or is that enb series stuff?

full flint Apr 7, 2020, 7:47 AM

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ENB is simply visual filters

full flint Apr 7, 2020, 9:03 AM

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wait where do you get the mods from then

full flint Apr 7, 2020, 3:23 PM

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https://youtu.be/qwibik-yFps
does this mean i can technically play spiderman ps4 on pc?

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ruby spear Apr 7, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Yes

full flint Apr 7, 2020, 4:09 PM

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ooh nice

plucky marsh Apr 7, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Oh neat

thorny tartan Apr 8, 2020, 12:32 AM

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yo is anyone else getting disconnected while tryibng to join a party

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on xbox game bar

tiny vessel Apr 8, 2020, 1:35 AM

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me @thorny tartan

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Same issue and it is really annoying

hybrid tundra Apr 8, 2020, 2:10 AM

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If a lot of storage is taken up on your head can it cause performance issues?

ruby spear Apr 8, 2020, 2:14 AM

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It's not good if the hard drive is completely filled to capacity

hybrid tundra Apr 8, 2020, 2:14 AM

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It's at red

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@ruby spear

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With 60gb left

ruby spear Apr 8, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Don't tag mods, please

hybrid tundra Apr 8, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Sorry.

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Should I make some space?

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Idk if it ruins perfromance.

ruby spear Apr 8, 2020, 2:16 AM

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60gb free space is fine

hybrid tundra Apr 8, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Alright

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Can you help me with something on my xbox?

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Got a problem.

obsidian bobcatBOT Apr 8, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Please refer to #233805809346150400 for support related issues. People will assist if/when they are able to.

feral estuary Apr 8, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Can anyone help me with my issue on game bar on pc not launching? It is turned on in the settings

full flint Apr 8, 2020, 1:55 PM

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@feral estuary update it/your computer and restart

feral estuary Apr 8, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Restart?

full flint Apr 8, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Alternatively you can try repairing the app in windows setting

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Yes. Your computer

feral estuary Apr 8, 2020, 1:56 PM

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how can i repair it

full flint Apr 8, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Settings

feral estuary Apr 8, 2020, 1:56 PM

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ok

dim lichen Apr 8, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Eh it cant show it

smoky flame Apr 8, 2020, 5:00 PM

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the only issue I have with game bar is it requires games to be played in borderless fullscreen and that may impact performance, even with Windows 10's flip mode where they try to get the best of windowed and fullscreen into one. Unfortunately, like the Game Mode option it isn't quite all there. I prefer disabling Game Mode, Game Bar and even go as far as to individually disable fullscreen optimisations so I can get true fullscreen support back

full flint Apr 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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no it doesn't?

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I used it for GTA4 when I was busting those achievements out of the way

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in fact it was the only software that would capture recordings/screenshots from it

full flint Apr 8, 2020, 5:29 PM

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It 100% does not

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I use it almost every day for modern warfare crossplay

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Game still runs and displays at 200+ FPS

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Any form of borderless caps display rate at 60

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hopefully that can be improved in the future.

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I know windows can get finicky with display types and frame-locks at times

plucky marsh Apr 8, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Oh weird. I definitely don't have the same when using game bar.

smoky flame Apr 8, 2020, 7:49 PM

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guess I haven't used game bar in a while. Maybe I should try it again but I don't know what I could use it for since I like how I have my system set up

hushed agate Apr 8, 2020, 9:39 PM

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@full flint Sorry for the ping dog, but I'm confused:

Any form of borderless caps display rate at 60
Are you saying Borderless fullscreen only displays 60 frames per second despite native refresh?

full flint Apr 8, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Ye

hushed agate Apr 8, 2020, 9:40 PM

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How sure are you of that?

full flint Apr 8, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Unless I just managed to get a special version of windows 10.

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I have a 240hz monitor. I can tell when it’s 60.

hushed agate Apr 8, 2020, 9:40 PM

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MCC runs in flip mode though, which is borderless fullscreen is it not?

full flint Apr 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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It’s still 60, especially with MCC

hushed agate Apr 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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That sounds too funky for me, are you sure you don't have VSync forced somewhere in NCP? I definitely get 144 on MCC

full flint Apr 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Vetoed went on a whole twitter rant about just finding out months later if you don’t believe me

hushed agate Apr 8, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Huh, I'll have to check that out then

full flint Apr 8, 2020, 9:42 PM

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The game will render at whatever it usually does

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But not display at that rate

full flint Apr 8, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Like if you have any overlays that track the GPU, you’ll see 144 or whatever you have it capped to, if capped. But you’ll still only physically see 60. Only way to get your full display rate is the standard fullscreen/exclusive fullscreen/whatever you want to call it

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Wanted to type that earlier but I was mid match

full flint Apr 9, 2020, 6:16 AM

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huh steelseries owns nahimic now

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https://steelseries.com/blog/welcome-a-volute-nahimic-steelseries-family-202

SteelSeries

Welcome Nahimic to the SteelSeries Family!

Hey SteelSeries fam, we have some really exciting news to share today! We’ve officially acquired the company Nahimic, and are welcoming them to the SteelSeries family!

full flint Apr 9, 2020, 9:18 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0zXkwLs_lo

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IGN

Gabe Newell Talks Half-Life: Alyx & Valve's Past and (Unexpected) F...

In a rare half-hour conversation, Valve co-founder Gabe Newell talks about the studio's past with Half-Life, the surprising answer to what his favorite Half-Life game is, mistakes that Valve has made, what keeps a man worth billions of dollars coming to work every day, how he ...

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plucky marsh Apr 9, 2020, 9:56 AM

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That was a great interview, watched it when it first came out and now I'm looking forward to this 'extinction level event' that is brain computer interfaces 🙂

undone dirge Apr 9, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Microsoft fix your xbox app error code: 0x80070032 is rampant

hot seal Apr 9, 2020, 3:39 PM

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thats not how you go about things, and you being a regular ish member should know what to do by now

autumn sluice Apr 9, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Lol

lapis brook Apr 10, 2020, 12:21 AM

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does anyone know why warzone runs bad but i have all the requirements for the game

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 12:25 AM

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It’s a very demanding game

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And it’s not optimized for all ranges of PCs

hushed agate Apr 10, 2020, 12:26 AM

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It'll chew through most of my 12t on my system. Usually hitting low 50s on the upper six

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So low core count tends to suffer

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 12:28 AM

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8700k and 2080ti
High texture resolution, 1080p at 150% render scale, everything else off or as low as it can go. I’m anywhere from 110-180, depends on where I am and what’s on screen

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Those settings on other games gets me 200-300+. It’s a very intensive game.

smoky flame Apr 10, 2020, 12:34 AM

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of all the games of Warzone I've played I haven't really noticed it run bad. I have a 6700K and a 1080 Ti and I play at 1080p maxed settings

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 12:46 AM

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I crashed twice tonight since downloading the new update

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Not sure what’s going on. I’ve never crashed before

smoky flame Apr 10, 2020, 1:14 AM

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a friend on another server has crashed quite a bit too since the new update. I even had a DirectX error first time I booted up the game since updating.
Crashes are rare on my system. I seem to have set it up to a point that nothing on my end should cause crashes but rather it is only updates that will do it. Updates either to Windows itself, the (non-game) programs I use or the games I play

hushed pier Apr 10, 2020, 1:23 AM

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minecraft be like-

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 3:45 AM

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It crashed again

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Guess I’m uninstalling and reinstalling. Otherwise I’m waiting for an update

smoky flame Apr 10, 2020, 4:05 AM

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tried scan and repair?

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Yeah. Crashed again

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Forgot I crashed twice

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Crashed 4 times today

lusty oak Apr 10, 2020, 4:30 AM

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stop xlr8ing so much 😁

plucky marsh Apr 10, 2020, 11:17 AM

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My games of warzone I usually have about 30fps. All settings on lowest, only since downloading latest Nvidia driver

ruby spear Apr 10, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Don't post in multiple channels. You were just told where to post it.

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 3:21 PM

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@plucky marsh revert to the last driver

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It should be something.something74

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75 is botched and I haven’t downloaded it for a reason

plucky marsh Apr 10, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Ah perfect thanks will do that now

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442.74 I believe is the right one

smoky flame Apr 10, 2020, 3:51 PM

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yeah, 442.74 was the last decent driver. 445.75 messed with Nvidia's image sharpening option on the control panel and games will crash if image sharpening is enabled. Heard it may only apply to DirectX 11 games though. I haven't tested or bothered to see if games that use other API are affected too

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Also be aware that cod like to reset itself for no reason

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Mine resets to borderless window with 66% render resolution like once or twice a week

smoky flame Apr 10, 2020, 3:54 PM

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mine does that all the time. Bit annoying but I've got used to setting it back up properly

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 3:55 PM

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If I boot it up and everything is super blurry then I know it reset lol

smoky flame Apr 10, 2020, 3:57 PM

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yeah, who could fall for such a thing? Looks horrible at 66% render res

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there are a few other settings that reset themselves too btw

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shadow map resolution resets to normal (maxed out would be extra) and both cache spot shadows and cache sun shadows are disabled. I believe they would improve performance at the cost of some additional memory usage when enabled so I don't see why they would be disabled

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 4:17 PM

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If you need to free up memory

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People still play games on 4gb cards

smoky flame Apr 10, 2020, 4:43 PM

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there is that, yeah. Maxed settings (minus ray tracing) and 100% render resolution uses pretty much 4GB and would leave very little room. Probably still playable but likely choppy since it would be tapping into other resources

steady bear Apr 10, 2020, 6:09 PM

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i can't get my XOne controller to pair to my PC through a cable

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it just won't connect

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i updated my drivers too with no luck

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any advice?

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i've also doublechecked that both the cable and the USB port work

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and it's a USB3.0 port if that matters

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 6:11 PM

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is it a data-sync cable, or just a power cable

steady bear Apr 10, 2020, 6:11 PM

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uh, idk

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 6:11 PM

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try a different cable

steady bear Apr 10, 2020, 6:11 PM

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tried 2

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 6:11 PM

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got a phone cable?

steady bear Apr 10, 2020, 6:12 PM

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wtf?

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didn't swear?

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 6:12 PM

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you did

steady bear Apr 10, 2020, 6:12 PM

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but ok, sure thing bot.
tried 2 cables, one is just a random cable I have and the other in a nice one

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neither worked

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 6:48 PM

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They might both just be power cables

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The quality has no relation to the purpose

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Recommend just getting a cable meant for the controller off of amazon or something

full flint Apr 10, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Just found out these Cougar fans are super quiet so I turned the exhaust fan to always be 100% and I can barely hear a difference

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Horray for better thermals

thorn veldt Apr 11, 2020, 10:26 AM

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hey there, do you know if Wolverine TE or Raiju TE has native support for PC like Microsoft's Xbox controllers?

lusty oak Apr 11, 2020, 10:28 AM

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idk, have you googled it?

thorn veldt Apr 11, 2020, 10:41 AM

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yea, if anyone has it can u see ty

ruby spear Apr 11, 2020, 10:42 AM

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I mean, you could just look at the store pages

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📎 Screenshot_2020-04-11_at_11.42.00.png

thorn veldt Apr 11, 2020, 12:09 PM

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it's not that clear because some reviewers say they can't map the extra buttons for different keys than xyba coz of it being the tournament version

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maybe they have updated the drivers idk

vast dragon Apr 11, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Is it worth it to try and find a prebuilt gaming pc? Or should I just get the parts and get a friend to help set up? (For around $2000 USD)

ruby spear Apr 11, 2020, 12:15 PM

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You'll always get more for your money if you build yourself (or get someone to build it for you), compared to a prebuilt.

full flint Apr 11, 2020, 12:22 PM

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@vast dragon
for $2000 I definitely would suggest custom built

full flint Apr 11, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Oh neat, a new mainline update for the xbox app on PC.

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📎 ss_2020-04-11_at_10.16.01.png

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some things have been slimmed down

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it's a lot faster too

plucky marsh Apr 11, 2020, 3:02 PM

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My laptop has died :(

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Gets stuck In a boot loop and when it does start, windows crashes

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Going to try and reinstall windows from scratch and see how it goes

smoky flame Apr 11, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Hope it can still be saved 😦

full flint Apr 11, 2020, 3:15 PM

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isnt that the same as the older update dark?

plucky marsh Apr 11, 2020, 3:16 PM

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It's only 2 years old, it shouldnt be crashing and dying

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Going through a Windows reinstall atm :(

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If it breaks though I'll just sell my VR and move back to Xbox :(

full flint Apr 11, 2020, 3:25 PM

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what vr you got again?

plucky marsh Apr 11, 2020, 3:31 PM

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valve index

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It seems to work better when not connected to a second monitor, my laptop started up now and apex is running

full flint Apr 11, 2020, 3:40 PM

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ah you could probably buy a decent laptop for that much tbh

plucky marsh Apr 11, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Mine cost more than the VR kit 😦

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It seems to run fine without having an external monitor... no problems with it just running off 1 display

full flint Apr 11, 2020, 5:33 PM

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I would have got it fixed if it wasnt for covid 19

plucky marsh Apr 11, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I am going to send an email to the manufacturer as it's not old at all, but doubt I'll get much back at the moment

fluid gust Apr 11, 2020, 6:08 PM

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my pc just kinda- won't sign me in.

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like- i push the button and the window just closes and it doesn't do anything

sullen elk Apr 11, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Think this is more something for #233805809346150400 but my advice is to reinstall the xbox app

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or this may help:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/xbox-application-on-windows-10-keeps-crashing/a7c9fab1-bd0b-4817-888b-384dcf24db5b

regal bobcat Apr 11, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Why is MC not on Xbox game pass for PC?

quaint moat Apr 11, 2020, 9:50 PM

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@regal bobcat too good to be on game pass

full flint Apr 12, 2020, 8:34 AM

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https://www.pcgamesn.com/steam/steam-controller-2

PCGamesN

Valve has patented a new Steam controller that has Xbox Elite-style...

A new patent filing from Valve indicates the next Steam controller may have swappable components like the Xbox Elite Series

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interesting

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that controller looks very weird though

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That’s the steam controller

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yeah

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very interesting looking controller

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It’s a very interesting to use controller

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I could imagine

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My roommate is already going on about having 4 thumbsticks

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Send help

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4 thumbsticks

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He’d swap the parts out for thumbsticks

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lol

full flint Apr 12, 2020, 9:24 AM

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I thought they discontinued the steam controller?

lusty oak Apr 12, 2020, 9:25 AM

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they stopped selling it, no clue if they stopped support

full flint Apr 12, 2020, 9:57 AM

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@full flint they discontinued the first model

plucky marsh Apr 12, 2020, 10:08 AM

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I'll probably grab one this time round, never got one but then used my brothers after it was discontinued and quite liked it

full flint Apr 12, 2020, 10:09 AM

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I hope they increase the build quality

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i still have the steam link...

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Cause while nice. It just feels really fragile

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I honestly would like gyro controls in Xbox at some point.

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Just for the option

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Closer to how the Steam Controller does it. Not the SixAxis or Switch Pro gyro

plucky marsh Apr 12, 2020, 10:10 AM

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I can't remember if feeling fragile but if the knuckles are anything to go off, they feel pretty darn good

full flint Apr 12, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Index is really high build quality

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I’m hoping they go with a similar quality for the next model of controller

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The DualShocks are heavier than the steam controller and denser.

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the dualshock 3 is light

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Yes

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It’s heavier than the steam controller

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oh wow

plucky marsh Apr 12, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Not sure I mind how heavy it is, as long as it works well and doesn't break as easy

full flint Apr 12, 2020, 10:13 AM

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It’s mostly a thing for larger hands

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I explained it to my roommate earlier who felt the same as you

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It’s mostly just like using something that feels unconventionally light

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It feels fragile while holding it so it’s a psychosomatic issue

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Like when bodybuilders hold cell phones

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They just look awkward/uncomfortable

plucky marsh Apr 12, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Oh haha I understand that

full flint Apr 12, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Like. The elite 2 is such a nice solid feel.

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Going from even a normal Xbox controller to the steam controller which is lighter than DualShock 3 is just really, really jarring

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Especially since they’re the same size as Xbox controllers

plucky marsh Apr 12, 2020, 10:16 AM

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Yeah can understand that. I think if I used that controller exclusively I'd get used to it, but would take a while

full flint Apr 12, 2020, 10:17 AM

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Yeah. Same

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The HAPTICS though

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The steam controller has AMAZING haptics

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It’s really weird

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The touchpad has the sensation the at its a trackball.

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Or clicks

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Like. It’s super weird. Haha

plucky marsh Apr 12, 2020, 10:18 AM

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The knuckles have a similar, but not the same, sort of trackpad

full flint Apr 12, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Yeah.

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wait dark by cellphones do you mean bricks or the ones like galaxy 20 ultra?

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I think they put the tech into it

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Bricks aren’t really a thing anymore

plucky marsh Apr 12, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Haptics on that are really good too, one of the things that solidified the knuckles for me and makes me want controller 2

full flint Apr 12, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Just like an iPhone 5 for example

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oh thats tiny

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Yeah. They used an improved version of the haptic tech

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Even a 6-8plus

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The plus models have more weight to them though.

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But when you hand them a standard model they just feel uncomfortable

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i use the s10 as my daily feedback isnt that good tbh

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then again might have it off

tribal pilot Apr 12, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Is it worth it getting the oculus rift s when I allready have the oculus rift. I did some research and I am just indecisive at this point.

full flint Apr 12, 2020, 5:02 PM

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I’d say nah

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Save up for a better HMD like Index or such

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index is pricey

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also id get the vive controllers

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when it comes to controllers I'd settle for nothing less than the knuckles

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i heard bad thins about the index ones

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at least fron launch and build quality standpoint

tribal pilot Apr 12, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Index is out of my price range. I want the new rift s but I kinda feels like it’s not enough of a upgrade over my standards rift. Wish I could try one out before buying it but there’s no way to do that now.

tribal pilot Apr 12, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Does Xbox beta app for game pass support vr? Or are any of the game pass for pc games able to run on vr?

ruby spear Apr 12, 2020, 11:30 PM

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There are no VR games on Game Pass

worldly ravine Apr 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Dell G5, Acer Nitro 5, Used Razer Blade, or HP Pavilion Gaming?

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I'm on a budget here <$1000

smoky flame Apr 13, 2020, 12:52 AM

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how are the specs of the systems you mentioned?

tribal pilot Apr 13, 2020, 1:42 AM

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thanks for the information. Hopefully one day they do.

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Prebuilts in a nutshell

smoky flame Apr 13, 2020, 2:48 AM

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gaming laptops probably even worse than that as a picture lol

plucky marsh Apr 13, 2020, 3:28 AM

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😭😅

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My gaming laptop is like trying to draw that horse but only being allowed to use a permanent marker

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 4:50 AM

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sager are the only really good gaming laptops, because they're entirely custom

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 10:42 AM

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think uk has some here too
but likely rebranded

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

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pretty sure SAGER is intl

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 11:43 AM

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we got clevo here

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wait nvm

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/NP7850-Gaming-i7-7700HQ-GeForce-Windows/dp/B071DTSX5N

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its old though

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yeah its clevo here

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 12:19 PM

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https://www.pcgamer.com/the-first-mod-that-will-let-you-finish-half-life-alyx-without-vr-is-here/

pcgamer

The first mod that will let you finish Half-Life: Alyx without VR i...

You should be able to make it to the finale and find out what all the fuss is about.

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wonderful times indeed

ruby spear Apr 13, 2020, 12:19 PM

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I knew it wouldn't take long.

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 12:37 PM

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there's always that one person

autumn sluice Apr 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Defo don't download valorant

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The anti cheat kernel has ring-0 admin access and yea that's a big no-no especially with how close riot is with tencent

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 1:26 PM

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the anti-cheat also launches with the system

autumn sluice Apr 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Also causes issues with other games and uses a good chunk of CPU even when valorant isn't open

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 2:09 PM

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thats one of the main reasons i had to get rid of origin
(punkbuster)

plucky marsh Apr 13, 2020, 2:25 PM

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I just finished Half Life Alyx, really good and even though people have now completed it 'flat', it's never going to be as good and immersive as VR

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Also, pcspecialist let you build custom gaming laptops too, that's where I got mine from

fallow gorge Apr 13, 2020, 2:28 PM

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i tried vr once one my friends ps4 and it was neat but it just seems like a really pricy gimmick

plucky marsh Apr 13, 2020, 2:32 PM

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I think Boneworks and HL:A have kind of shown that it isn't. But it depends if more developers make games for it

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 2:37 PM

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there is the lab too

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it is a demo though

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are ultrawides worth it?
or should i stick to 1440p when i can find a decent priced one
(gpu upgrade will happen soon too)

autumn sluice Apr 13, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Vr won't be good till holodeck change my mind

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 4:18 PM

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how is this cheap
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/14-asus-rog-zephyrus-g14-ga401iv-ha026t-eclipse-gray-60hz-qhd-ryzen-7-rtx-2060-16gb-ddr4-1tb

ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 14" AMD Ryzen 7 RTX 2060 Gaming Laptop

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its same price as a razer blade i think

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oh not out yet nvm

autumn sluice Apr 13, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Lol

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 4:38 PM

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still cheap though

autumn sluice Apr 13, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Eh probably go up

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 4:48 PM

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i hope not
this is scan uk not amazon btw
most likely people will buy from there then sell on amazon

smoky flame Apr 13, 2020, 4:55 PM

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that price is ridiculous. No way a system with a 2060 will cost that much. Isn't even a 2060 Super and I thought Nvidia launched them quietly

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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check the other specs

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1440p screen
ryzen 8 core 16 thread cpu
1TB nvme

smoky flame Apr 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Was about to go and attempt to price match it with desktop components equivalents but I think I'll pass. I still believe the desktop would turn out cheaper anyways

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4800HS could be compared against 3700X or the 3800X (both 8 cores and 16 thread CPUs) and the rest of it can all be compared pretty easily

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the one part of a laptop that would put me off ever buying one though would be battery life. Especially on a gaming laptop. Gamers want top performance. Power saving features found on a laptop will hinder that performance somewhat and disabling them will reduce the battery life by quite a bit I'd imagine

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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laptop is portable
althouth i wonder what battery on that is like
even though its rog i think its more content creation oriented

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the gaming ones are average £1200 btw

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wait for 1660ti

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from what i remember 4000 series supposed to have bettery battery life

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ok 10 hours for the ryzen 9 under light load

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which is everyday use

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https://youtu.be/B83xurNIX4E

YouTube

Hardware Canucks

AMD DID IT! This Ryzen 9 Notebook Is AMAZING - Zephyrus G14 Review

The ASUS Zephyrus G14 gaming notebook is one of the first with the new Ryzen 9 4900HS CPU. In this review we look at CPU performance, battery life and more to see if this new notebook processor compares to the Intel i9-9980HK and i7-9750H.

Buy items in this video from Amazon...

▶ Play video

ruby spear Apr 13, 2020, 9:34 PM

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No trading #rules

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 9:52 PM

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https://www.pcgamer.com/the-steam-game-festival-is-coming-back-on-the-day-e3-wouldve-started/

pcgamer

The Steam Game Festival is coming back on the day E3 would've started

The event, with demos, live presentations, and more, will happen this June.

autumn sluice Apr 13, 2020, 10:42 PM

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@full flint because of everything I learned I was able to help a friend upgrade their prebuilt. Thanks for all the info u gave me

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Same to you xlr8

full flint Apr 13, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Hi

worldly talon Apr 14, 2020, 5:07 AM

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anyone got any good minecraft seeds? if so dm me please

wise needle Apr 14, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Anyone know anything about building a pc?

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I just have some questions

smoky flame Apr 14, 2020, 6:05 AM

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I've built my own once. What questions you got?

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Just go ahead and ask

tribal pilot Apr 14, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Anybody know about super sampling with the oculus rift?

wise needle Apr 14, 2020, 6:37 AM

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I didn't want to ask here it was a lot im sorry

smoky flame Apr 14, 2020, 7:11 AM

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I helped out through DM.
In short KingSizeCups had a PC parts list and wanted to check if everything was compatible. Eventually I cleared up the list a little and made it much better.
They have a $1500 budget and this is what I come up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wv3VZf

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 7:50 AM

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I think this is a better place to post this
https://store.steampowered.com/app/638230/Journey/

Steam

Journey

Explore the ancient, mysterious world of Journey as you soar above ruins and glide across sands to discover its secrets. Play alone or in the company of a fellow traveler and explore its vast world together. Featuring stunning visuals and a Grammy-nominated musical score, Jour...

Release Date

June 11, 2020

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 8:40 AM

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https://www.techradar.com/au/news/we-got-resident-evil-3-to-play-at-8k-and-over-60fps-but-with-a-lot-of-sacrifices

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oh lawdy

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 9:03 AM

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they still selling rtx titan for $2,500?

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considering the Titan V is still $3,000

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what do you think

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why would a flagship GPU have a lowered price

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they don't get refreshes because they don't need them

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oof

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oh its au nvm

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that's the price in USD

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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/deep-learning-ai/products/titan-rtx/

NVIDIA

NVIDIA TITAN RTX is Here

The fastest PC graphics card ever built. Only from NVIDIA.

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huh people are still buying even on amazon

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its £2,350 here

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that's like $3,000

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yeah its way overpriced here

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 12:26 PM

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https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-4900u-flagship-15w-renoir-cpu-spotted-8-cores-faster-vega-gpu/

Wccftech

Hassan Mujtaba

AMD Ryzen 9 4900U Flagship 15W Renoir 8 Core, 4.3 GHz CPU Spotted

AMD's Flagship Ryzen 4000 'Renoir' CPU has been spotted, the Ryzen 9 4900U, which will feature faster specifications than the Ryzen 7 4800U.

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 12:56 PM

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saw this yesterday or day before while I was lookin at ryzen 7 4800hs laptops...

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its a week old some of the articles

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 2:16 PM

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https://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-shogun-2-is-going-to-be-free-to-keep-on-steam-for-a-limited-time/ upcoming free

pcgamer

Total War: Shogun 2 will be free to keep on Steam for a limited time

The giveaways keep coming.

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nice

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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@full flint good night

📎 qvt7hsmyk.png

autumn sluice Apr 14, 2020, 8:39 PM

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📎 632372881806d58d9d7499c0131c33ce.0.jpg

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Dark what yu think of this for a one s and a pc?

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 8:40 PM

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165hz is weird

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hmm, idk. seems kinda pricy, but that's just judging from all of the 3 things it tells me there

autumn sluice Apr 14, 2020, 8:41 PM

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That's USD btw

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 8:42 PM

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I figured

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1539791-REG/msi_24_optix_g241_gaming.html/?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAjwvtX0BRAFEiwAGWJyZFPu96QH0ls8_wk9dtmUdusd5yffyTPhLEaiK7wHdcrOEyj7tieTsxoCjokQAvD_BwE&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=y
cheaper here

MSI Optix G241 23.8" 16:9 144Hz FreeSync IPS eSports Gaming Monitor

Buy MSI Optix G241 23.8" 16:9 144Hz FreeSync IPS eSports Gaming Monitor featuring In-Plane Switching (IPS) Panel, DisplayPort | HDMI Inputs, 1920 x 1080 Full HD Resolution, 1000:1 Static Contrast Ratio, 250 cd/m² Brightness, 1 ms Response Time, 144 Hz Refresh Rate, 16.7 M...

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oh sold out

autumn sluice Apr 14, 2020, 8:44 PM

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So this is for a friend and I don't know much about screens. He has a pc and a one x. Do you guys have any recommendations

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I mean. That would work fine.

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you can use hdmi to displayport cable and get freesync support right? or wont work

autumn sluice Apr 14, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Oh freesync doesn't work with HDMI?

full flint Apr 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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some monitors dont have it but i cant remember

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Xbox one x and s supports freesync

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or at least high refresh

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i dont think my asus mg248 supports it over hdmo

autumn sluice Apr 15, 2020, 11:53 AM

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https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_700_1104&item_id=139968

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Decided to get this

full flint Apr 15, 2020, 11:55 AM

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from uk so that redirects to the main site

autumn sluice Apr 15, 2020, 12:01 PM

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Oh uh

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https://invisioncommunity.co.uk/g2-series-aoc-27g2-27-gaming-monitor-review/

Invision Game Community

G2 Series AOC 27G2 27" Gaming Monitor Review | Invision Game Community

It has been some time since I have checked out a new Monitor so for this review I am going to be looking at the new G2 Series AOC 27G2 27" Gaming Monitor.

autumn sluice Apr 15, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Actually shoot now I'm stuck between this one ^ and this one

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https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_700_1103&item_id=139967

full flint Apr 15, 2020, 12:29 PM

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you could probably get an aoc c24g1 and be fine tbh

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yeah thst seems pricey

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wait nvm

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about £150

night willow Apr 15, 2020, 9:32 PM

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anyone playing fh4 ?

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@thorny cypress @dusty vector @main ether how much is the new xbox in Turkey ?

lusty oak Apr 15, 2020, 9:34 PM

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don't ping admins or mods

night willow Apr 15, 2020, 9:34 PM

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hmm

thorny cypress Apr 15, 2020, 9:34 PM

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go read #rules, now

night willow Apr 15, 2020, 9:34 PM

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ok

modest gulch Apr 15, 2020, 9:35 PM

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And why on earth would we know?

thorny cypress Apr 15, 2020, 9:35 PM

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no pricing has been announced, and this isn't the channel to discuss it either

modest gulch Apr 15, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Yeah.

night willow Apr 15, 2020, 9:35 PM

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ok im sorry

modest gulch Apr 15, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Cecil - what is the conversion rate of Lira to USD anyway?

night willow Apr 15, 2020, 9:36 PM

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6.91

thorny cypress Apr 15, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Google it? 🙂

modest gulch Apr 15, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Oh wait: we have a search engine for that 😉

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I know this because I had to look up the currency for Turkey 😐

lusty oak Apr 15, 2020, 9:36 PM

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many search engines

main ether Apr 15, 2020, 10:05 PM

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No more lira

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Is euro anyways

shrewd sail Apr 15, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Should i get a gaming pc or get series x

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Please please please @ me if you have an answer

lusty oak Apr 15, 2020, 10:19 PM

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up to you, your money

shrewd sail Apr 15, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I want suggestions

lusty oak Apr 15, 2020, 10:19 PM

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buy neither, invest in the stock market

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then, once you've grown your money, get both

shrewd sail Apr 15, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Yeahhh no

lusty oak Apr 15, 2020, 10:25 PM

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ok, well in that case, what do your friends play more

smoky flame Apr 15, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Series X isn't out until later this year ("Holiday 2020") price hasn't yet been confirmed but I doubt it will cost as much as a PC of similar, or great spec will.
On the other hand, if you have that sort of money to play with now I'd say why wait? You will be gaming for a good few months on a really high spec system before considering the Series X, by that point you may not want it but I'd also like to point out new components are to be announced across the year so spend very carefully whatever you decide to do. Months later something else could launch and be even more powerful (possibly cheaper too)

shrewd sail Apr 15, 2020, 10:29 PM

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True. I think imma build a pc and get the x later

smoky flame Apr 15, 2020, 10:30 PM

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nice, any idea what specs you want to go for?

shrewd sail Apr 15, 2020, 10:30 PM

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1660ti

smoky flame Apr 15, 2020, 10:32 PM

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hmm, I probably should have asked instead what your budget for the build was. See if I can up that 1660ti at all while remaining in budget

shrewd sail Apr 15, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Can i show u in dms

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It wont let me show the pic in here

smoky flame Apr 15, 2020, 10:32 PM

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sure, dm me

mental zealot Apr 15, 2020, 10:51 PM

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anyone struggling to upload anything to xbox companion beta app?

full flint Apr 16, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Question

full flint Apr 16, 2020, 5:49 AM

#

What

full flint Apr 16, 2020, 12:33 PM

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has anyone used an lg ultragear before

full flint Apr 16, 2020, 12:52 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/g2bcle/techpowerup_amd_ryzen_4000_series_vermeer_cpus_to/
ooh

r/Amd - [TechPowerUp] - AMD Ryzen 4000 Series "Vermeer" CPUs to be ...

320 votes and 104 comments so far on Reddit

autumn sluice Apr 16, 2020, 1:31 PM

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My friend has an RX 580 and he's wondering if he should upgrade or wait. Personally I think he should wait for the new Nvidia stuff to be announced

full flint Apr 16, 2020, 1:31 PM

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or new AMD stuff

autumn sluice Apr 16, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Either way. He just bought more ram, a case, new Mobo and a psu. Made him get gold

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And now he's on an upgrade trip and I don't want him wasting money

full flint Apr 16, 2020, 4:41 PM

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He should wait

full flint Apr 16, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Im trying to get the new minecraft rtx right

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And I have an rtx 2060

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But it is just saying im unauthorized..?

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any help?

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it hasn't launched yet

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there's still an hour

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I dont think so... 10AM PT is 1PM EST time and gave me the option of it already before dying

worldly ravine Apr 16, 2020, 5:19 PM

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What's the best place to buy video games from

heavy marsh Apr 16, 2020, 5:22 PM

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your favorite local retailer!

shrewd sail Apr 17, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Dang

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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can't believe I'm saying this but I'm really considering buying a 2080 Ti

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:22 AM

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turing RTX is a gimmick

#

Ampere is where things are supposed to actually be focused on

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ampere referring to the 3000 series

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 3:28 AM

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I'd rather see it in action before making wild guesses and stuff.
As it stands the 2080 Ti is the top gaming GPU available today and I'm going for it. Even got plans to ditch 1080p which I was not too keen on doing for a while. Think I just finally accepted the facts and figures. Will be on 1080p for a little while after I get the 2080 Ti but after I sell my 1080 Ti and gather up the remaining amount required I'll be going for a 1440p, 144hz IPS gsync monitor and my old monitor will be passed on to my brother 🙂

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:28 AM

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bahahahahaha

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2080Ti

#

top gaming GPU

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https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

Tenor

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 3:29 AM

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it is Nvidia's current flagship, excluding Titans and Quadros

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:29 AM

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titan's aren't marketed as gaming GPU just like Threadripper aren't marketed as Gaming CPU

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If you have an integrated graphics card, will adding more ram increase vram? (I’m trying to make a Windows 95 gaming laptop)

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they're still gaming devices

lusty oak Apr 18, 2020, 3:29 AM

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lol Dark, that gif

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:30 AM

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a Titan card is the ONLY card that will last you bleeding edge for more than one generation

#

that's been true of them for a while

#

I mean unless you're using Studio Drivers or CUDA

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which you shouldn't be using for games anyway

#

and yes, the titan RTX is miles above a 2080 Super in performance

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 3:31 AM

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worst case scenario I buy the 2080 Ti, don't like it, send it back and I have over £1100 ready and waiting for Ampere's flagship RTX GPU. No real loss

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:31 AM

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it's still the ONLY card that can run Star Citizen on max 1080p

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or RDR2 4k@60

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-looks to my bucket of GPUs that I've tested-

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yep.

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the 20 series is entirely gimmick

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benefits being GDDR6, that's about it

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 3:34 AM

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I don't get what's so funny about what I said moments ago

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:34 AM

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the fact it's entirely untrue

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 3:37 AM

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performance figures would suggest it is true though. Beats the 1080 Ti by as much as 30%, and that's not even factoring in the RTX capabilities in supported games. The 1080 Ti just can't compete there

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:37 AM

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yes, but discounting titan cards is where you fell off

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it doesn't matter if they're not marketed as a "gaming line", NVIDIA will still admit they're the best for gaming

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because that's the entire purpose of them

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they're designed for games, as well as design

wise needle Apr 18, 2020, 3:38 AM

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I bought all my pc parts because I'm impatient but still won't all be here till mid may

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 3:38 AM

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I don't count Titan cards for a reason. Same as I don't count Quadro either

south ermine Apr 18, 2020, 3:38 AM

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hi, someone speaks spanish ?

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:38 AM

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titan cards are LITERALLY made for games

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they just shifted marketing to appeal more to budget creators

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For games and to make games lol

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English only @south ermine #rules

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Quadro will shred on games if it's a higher-end

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they’re literally just 2080tis with the full chip for machine learning and processing bandwidth

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Quadros is where you actually get serious

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and an exceptional memory pool

south ermine Apr 18, 2020, 3:40 AM

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@full flint it was just a question, so to translate something

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sorry

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 3:40 AM

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a £2350 GPU is well and truly out of the question for me. Why pay over double for what 24GB GDDR6 and a little extra performance? Gold was never my thing either

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Use google translate, it has an OCR

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if you wanted bleeding edge graphics all the time

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you'd have to buy every flagship that comes out

#

Titans are honestly in a really weird spot right now

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you don't with titans

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titans last 3 generations on bleeding edge

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exception being adding Ray-Tracing

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hence weird spot as well

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 3:44 AM

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so Titans have some other secret sauce stuff going on that the non-Titan flagship doesn't? I would need a lot more than what has been said to convince me to go Titan RTX over 2080 Ti. Was tough enough convincing myself to think again about the 2080 Ti but I'm coming around to the idea

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:45 AM

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why would you get either

#

turing is not worth

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 3:46 AM

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additional performance and new features. You know, there is more than RTX under the hood of all the 20 series GPUs

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:46 AM

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I know what 20 series has to offer

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it's not worth

#

the performance threshold is just not there

#

there's a few niche things they're capable of, but that's also things the Ampere line will be capable of, but significantly better

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but hey, your money to waste

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the 20 series was more something to upgrade to from a 9 series or earlier

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apart from the NVIDIA Fans

#

going from 10 to 20 past the memory type isn't really beneficial

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 3:50 AM

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well until Ampere reveals itself its all speculation to me and my whole views on speculation have changed. If its not confirmed (specs, release date etc) it's just not worth worrying about. Could be September before we get any news on Ampere and even then Nvidia may not even launch their Titan or 2080 Ti successor right away like they did with Turing

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:51 AM

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I'll rephrase. NVIDIA's having to compete with AMD more seriously in the regards of the entire gimmick that Ray-tracing was for Turing

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given RDNA2 and DXR/U

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if ampere doesn't have marked improvements in the RT Department then they have a possibility of sinking the entire RTX lineup in the future

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because sure DLSS is nice, but you can't ship an entire card line on that alone

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and we have yet to see how sample-streaming will be in the wild

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physX is all but dead anyway overall

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since ray-traced particle calculations are moving in

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there's all but no reason for PhysX to exist

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 3:56 AM

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RDNA's debut showed AMD can talk the talk but when it comes to actually throwing down with Nvidia they just can't.
What makes RDNA 2.0 any different to RDNA? RDNA 2.0 is AMD's debut in ray tracing. Nvidia have had one GPU generation to improve and add upon what they started with the 20 series.
My guess is Nvidia will walk all over AMD, again and that's not me picking sides, it's just how I finally see things

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 3:59 AM

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I'll rephrase

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NVIDIA can't compete with AMD on RT front

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NVIDIA hasn't worked with MS for the past 10 or so years to get DXR and chipsets made

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few year on some specific features, sure

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but AMD is, as it stands, better than NVIDIA in the Ray-Tracing dept. under the hood

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if they sit back and only focus on RTX as it stands now, then NVIDIA's entire lineup is doomed

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they still have market-investors to please

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it's not as simple as "oh they can just do it next time"

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this will be their next time

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the performance gains on a 2080Ti over a 1080Ti aren't there. 2080Super, sure

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but the cost-performance ratio is skewed

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which makes it far from worth

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if you believe it to be worthwhile, that's on you. but if all you're planning to do with it is run games

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you're in for a sour surprise

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I say this after being hands on with one for a while as well.

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Well for AMD's sake I hope they deliver something that will have Nvidia scrambling but since I got into PC gaming in 2016 it has been a very one sided battle. I want AMD to do well, possibly dethrone Nvidia but I have my doubts that they can actually do it. Nvidia's budget last I heard is far greater than AMD's, even with Microsoft backing them

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:06 AM

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it's been a one-sided battle since 2000

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but it doesn't make the 20 series any better for what they are.

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a product launch, and functional tech-demo

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Yo dark

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Wanna toss me a good gpu from that bucket?

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:07 AM

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lol

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most get sent back or over to office/friend

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Rip

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Well I tried

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:08 AM

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the most unique cards I've been able to use were NVIDIA TESLA

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mostly because I could set it up to be able to have my own game-streaming service, using a system vDISP

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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I wonder. Would the GTX cards get better ones after the 30 series or is it gonna get dropped after?

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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that may be true but unfortunately the figures do show a pretty bleak picture for AMD and the 2080 Ti sits on top in pretty much any gaming benchmark

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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GTX cards have improved regardless

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the 16 series is a good example of that

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Ik but would we see like an 18 series?

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:09 AM

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takes what turing had to offer and focused on the applications that a raster-user would need

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I don't think we'll see another GTX lineup honestly

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or maybe one more, before they phase it out

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Rip cause I have no interest in ray tracing

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But want a good card

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:10 AM

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they're waiting on the RTX line to meet their performance expectations before they do that

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uh, you should care

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:10 AM

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ray tracing is the future

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:10 AM

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eventually it'll be the base-standard

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Ik but for now it's a gimmick imo

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:11 AM

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well, no

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it's been used gimmicky

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and hasn't met performance due to -cough- 20 series -cough-

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but it's very much great

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Well barely anything supports rtx tbh

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:11 AM

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RTX is proprietary nonsense

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DXR is a high-level API

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Wait

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So Nvidia has rtx and direct x has dxr?

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:12 AM

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yes

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Aaaaah

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:12 AM

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RTX is like

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PhysX

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or HairWorks

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it's just NVIDIA marketing

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 AM

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I thought rtx was the shortform of raytracing

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 AM

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oh...GSync

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good example

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Gsync vs FreeSync

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Yea freesync is the same thing

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Gsync is NVIDIA proprietary

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so it has some gimmicky things locked to NVIDIA cards

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Meh

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Most monitors are freesync

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Gj nvidia

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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because it's a more open standard

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Yep like opengl

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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-shudders-

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we don't...talk

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about OpenGL

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Riiiiiiight

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Vulkan plz

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everyone hates OpenGL

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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gsync is hardware based though. Freesync is more software I believe. Much like RTX vs DXR. Hardware accelerated always wins

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:15 AM

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not really

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:15 AM

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I have to cause my Wii u died so I moved all the stuff to my PC and they recently added vulkan as a renderer

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:15 AM

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GSync is software based as well

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but some ship with an actual GSync module for offloading the processing

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:15 AM

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^ I saw a couple Nvidia brand PC's with processors listed in specs

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Monitors derp

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:16 AM

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yeah, that's what I mean. That module is the hardware, thus it is hardware. Gsync compatible (freesync) is the software exception

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:16 AM

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both are hardware accelerated

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it's all handled with the drivers though

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to actually tell the GPU how/when to process it

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Nvidia weren't joking when they say in some disclaimer that GPU drivers are complex

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:18 AM

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GPU drivers are systematically some of the most complex software you'll ever install on a computer

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Yep

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Like ok ik Linus is basic but I'm learning a lot from his videos

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:19 AM

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yet their installation is so simple. I'm curious what it is like working on the drivers

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Hard

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:20 AM

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linus isn't basic tbh.

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he just markets it out as basic or entertainment

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:21 AM

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My cousin out in bc used to work on drivers for Intel. He said he hated it because of how precise you need to be or you could fudge everything up

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:21 AM

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NVIDIA's got a driver-lab here in Raleigh

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Armed guards?

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:21 AM

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found that out recently

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most tech complex have armed guards

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:22 AM

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anyways, now I don't know what to think of the whole 2080 Ti thing once more. My mind, for a change was pretty set on it but now I'm back to square one I feel. Guess the best thing I can do is just wait for Ampere after all

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Smithfield Packing (pork) has their own police force and that's in the middle of nowhere

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:22 AM

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TBH wait till the next series comes out and see it's price to performance.

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Ampere is Turing's Evolution

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just as Pascal was Maxwell's

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:23 AM

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For all we know the 20 series could drop like a rock cause of how good the 30 are

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:23 AM

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it's also very possible that with consoles shipping with ray-tracing we'll see raster-cards phased out a lot more quickly, as with 1080p

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Ampere could also be Volta's successor while we end up getting a whole different GPU architecture name

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:24 AM

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it's possible we'll see two different Architectures

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but that's unlikely

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Volta was born mid-pascal

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Can we all agree tho

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I'm glad amd is making Intel sweat

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:25 AM

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sometimes I really don't like the whole speculation thing. Grew old on me pretty fast I think

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:25 AM

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intel's been complacent for years

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speculation is only speculation if there's no statistical backing

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Statistically I want a cheaper good gpu already

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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NVIDIA's had some pretty clear trends over the years

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gaming is a luxury market

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"cheap" does not come easy

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:29 AM

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No but cheaper comes with new series

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:29 AM

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no, not it does not

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:29 AM

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At least on older cards

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:29 AM

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it still doesn't

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:29 AM

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deadinside

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📎 1ypxsq.jpg

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:30 AM

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the 1080Ti is still 800+

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:30 AM

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my hope is the successor to the 2080 Ti is an absolute monster in specs and works out cheaper than how the 2080 Ti launched but with what's been happening in the world this year I highly doubt that will happen.
Not to mention Nvidia may view the purchases on 2080 Ti GPUs were enough for them to keep that price tag the new norm going forward. Which will suck. Gone are the days of $1200 Titans 😦

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:30 AM

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averaging 970-1050 USD

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considering consoles are performing in the range of the upper 20 series

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That's another reason to not get one

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GPU will have to increase their capabilities to stay over the curve

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as they traditionally have done

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:31 AM

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So what would be a good step up for a 1650 super?

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 AM

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waiting

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 AM

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literally anything above a 2070

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 AM

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I see

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 AM

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which includes waiting

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Out of my range so yea. Was planning on waiting to the new series anyway

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 AM

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don't expect too much budget

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 AM

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?

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 AM

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a 3060 or whatever might end up being the one in your range

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and I don't mean an 8gb model

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 AM

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OH yea ik that's y I'm waiting

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I'm hoping it's decent price

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 AM

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NVIDIA and "Decent price" are very rarely synonymous

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NVIDIA's known for their higher prices, the tradeoffs being a lower TDP, greater efficiency, lower temps, and gimmicky features like PhysX

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they're the best for the efficiency reason alone

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just as ASUS is for hardware

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it's an "NVIDIA Tax/Asus Tax"

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you pay more for better output

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Well yea

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I'll rephrase. Decent for nvidia

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 4:40 AM

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a point I'd like to make on the consoles. They are impressive on paper, no question but as always there will be limits as to just how good they are without them being too expensive to the market that tend to buy them. Consoles will always have compromises where as PC's only real limit is one's budget

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:42 AM

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traditionally it was a matter of technological capabilities and price/components as well

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consoles creep close and close into PC territory because the cost of the components themselves have gone down

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but have always had an edge on optimization

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if we're seeing raw performance in the upper 20 series range, then down the line when optimizations on a hardware-software end are made and enhanced, it's going to be significant

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:47 AM

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I mean apparently ps can't sell the ps5 cheap very well

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Speaking of the bin

📎 image0.jpg

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This monster is in it

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Let me guess, 7870?

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5850

eternal birch Apr 18, 2020, 7:50 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_eeWr622Ss

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the parts at 16:48, 30:31, and 35:08 were particularly impressive

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 8:53 AM

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buying a 2080ti now is like someone buying a 680 in 2013...
or was it the 690 cant remember

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oh nvm

lusty oak Apr 18, 2020, 9:42 AM

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in 2013, I bought a 780Ti

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 9:51 AM

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wonder what else I can spend my money on if I'm not going to get a 2080 Ti after all. Monitor may still happen but not until I upgrade my GPU.

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Oh dear

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780Ti. But for how much

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 9:52 AM

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wasn't the 780 Ti priced similar to 980 Ti and 1080 Ti?

lusty oak Apr 18, 2020, 9:52 AM

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I don't remember, that was 7 years ago

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 9:53 AM

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launch price of the 780 Ti, according to techpowerup was $699

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 9:54 AM

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It released in 2013 though

lusty oak Apr 18, 2020, 9:54 AM

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I've since upgraded to a 1060 6GB

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 9:55 AM

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that's not much of an upgrade other than the memory on both cards 3GB vs 6GB

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Pascal

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Huge upgrade

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Higher clocks and efficiency

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 9:58 AM

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techpowerup only showing a 6% difference between the two GPUs however they calculate it on their table but yeah there is stuff like that to consider too

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 9:58 AM

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GPUBench is a better indicator than techpowerup

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Techpowerup is just a infosheet

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 10:18 AM

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would the 2080 Ti be considerable if I can get it almost half price? There may be a way I can do it and I think I have discussed it before. If not it would involve me selling my 1080 Ti for in store credit to then buy a used 2080 Ti.
The store I'd be using sell them for £900. I could trade in my 1080 Ti for £385 in store voucher then apply and deduct that off the 2080 Ti and bring that down to £515

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Half? Eh

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The Super maybe

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Ti probably not

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Not going from a 1080Ti

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 11:28 AM

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how close is the 2080 Super to the 2080 Ti? is this the new x80 Ti vs Titan X comparison where the Titan (in this situation the 2080 Ti) is over £1000 and the x80 Ti (2080 Super) is around £650-700

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 11:29 AM

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https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080S-Super-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti/4050vs4027

Super looks like still above £700

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 11:30 AM

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they're close enough in performance for the super being half-off to be worth it

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you can OC the super for more performance too

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yeah, the Super's designed around OC

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 11:31 AM

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I don't trust userbenchmark

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 11:31 AM

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userbench is more accurate than techpowerup

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larger sample sizes

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 11:34 AM

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wow how come there is such a big difference in that comparison in the overclocked and average user benchmarks (26% and 34% respectively) yet when it comes to game performance (6%?!) there is very little to be had

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 11:34 AM

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because overclocking is for more than games?

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 11:36 AM

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Why would a game like PUBG still be better on the Super where as the TI is better everywhere else?

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 11:37 AM

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no, the game performance thing is separate. Just shows 3 things lighting, MRender and Gravity. Out of curiosity I went and compared the 1080 Ti and 2080 Ti on userbenchmark and the figures were much greater. 48% average, 55% overclocked and 25% game FPS

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the games userbenchmark is comparing are pretty silly tbh

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 11:39 AM

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Yeah I don't think that is accurate for these. I don't know how it works it out. For the most part it's usually ok

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Oh, looks like it's user submitted

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 11:40 AM

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in other news...I killed bing

📎 ss_2020-04-18_at_07.40.02.png

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 11:40 AM

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lol

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 11:41 AM

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it should be worth noting

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there's also a 3gb difference between the cards

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so performance metrics are similar enough, despite that discrepancy

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https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/compare/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti/intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz-vs-intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/ultra/ultra/-vs-

RTX 2080 SUPER vs RTX 2080 Ti Game Performance Benchmarks (i7-8700K...

RTX 2080 SUPER versus RTX 2080 Ti performance comparison. Compare graphics card gaming performance in 48 games and in 1080p, 1440p, and 4K at Ultra, High, Medium, and Low quality settings. Compare specifications, price, power, temperature, and CPU bottlenecks.

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change CPU and settings as needed

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 11:43 AM

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yeah, that I'm well aware of. Sometimes I feel I go in circles thinking about the 2080 Ti so I don't know. Think it may just be best to forget it as you said earlier Dark. Sorry I dragged chat into this 😦

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using that same comparison but on the left my current PC specs and on the right what I was considering https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/compare/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti/intel-core-i7-6700k-4-00ghz-vs-amd-ryzen-5-3600/ultra/ultra/-vs-

ruby spear Apr 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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https://i.redd.it/yz47tztf3it41.jpg

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Seems relevant for the discussion 😄

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 12:32 PM

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bahahaha

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it'll take a titan to run it full-tilt, for sure

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especially considering it's the first game

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which has massive maps

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do any of you do benchmarks when testing new cards?

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I do my own.

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admittedly I never submit data

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you test games or 3D mark?

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I do quite a few different marks

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ah ok
I may do that when I get a new gpu

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running one now and my pc is quite loud atm...

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it does clock up to max on everything

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ah ok
do you know if it is possible to make it quiter or would you have to undervolt or whatever it is called?
my pc is loud even when running normal games...

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and I cant tell what fan it is tbh

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 12:45 PM

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by the sounds of things you are playing games while running at an uncapped frame rate

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enable vsync in the nvidia control panel per game profile (not globally) and disable in game vsync if enabled, if enabled. That will cap your frame rate to your monitor's refresh rate

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 12:49 PM

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most games have a frame-target in their settings

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as VSync can cause a lot of other inherent issues

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 12:49 PM

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yeah, it can add a little latency. Slight trade off for a cooler running GPU imo

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 12:50 PM

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"a little"

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someone's never played Dead Space on PC

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the cursors' an entire second behind

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not a game where you want that to happen

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VSync is hit or miss with games, so it's best to enable in the game's settings

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 12:52 PM

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I think that's more a Dead Space in game vsync issue. Some in game vsync implementations can be poor. Driver version eliminates that or should. Just got to be sure it is disabled in game

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 12:53 PM

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it's not just dead space, dead space is just an example

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 12:53 PM

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I have vsync enabled from the nvcp on all the games I play and it seems to work fine

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 12:54 PM

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ah, so you never notice it because it's always on.

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or you're not attuned to finer mouse movements, either could be a possibility

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also, VSync doesn't inherently cap your framerate to your monitor

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it caps the framerate to the monitor's limit

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which is double its refresh-rate

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 12:55 PM

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all that seems pretty snappy so I don't know. I play with a controller anyways

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 12:56 PM

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so it's what I said lol

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you just don't notice it

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 12:56 PM

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that doesn't sound right. 60Hz should be 60 FPS, 144Hz = 144 FPS. Sounds like you were describing fast sync 🤔

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 12:57 PM

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no

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Refresh Rate =/= Frame Rate

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a refresh rate has a FPS limit before screen tearing occurs

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VSync caps the FPS at that limit

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which is double

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a game using an FPS counter will send the display what the game is refreshing at, but not actually performing at

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60Hz's physical cap is 120FPS

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after that screen-tearing occurs

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 12:59 PM

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first time hearing this. What I've read is either wrong or outdated

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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nothing has changed in the....70 or so years displays have been around

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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this is just confusing me now

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 1:01 PM

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https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/can-i-see-more-than-60-fps-on-a-60-hz-monitor.717256/post-7295873

Tom's Hardware Forum

[SOLVED] - Can I see more than 60 FPS on a 60 Hz monitor?

Hey guys.

My questions have always been hard to answer but I think this will be quite simple to some of you.

Can I actually notice the difference between 60 FPS and, lets say, 100 FPS on a 60 Hz monitor?

I know that the refresh rate of the monitor means that it can't refres...

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Yes you will be able to see over 60fps because the rate that the monitor refreshes doesn't affect the rate that the games displays in

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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why does vsync enabled on my brother's monitor cap in game FPS to exactly 60 FPS? By what you are saying it should be able to go beyond 60 FPS. Never once seen that FPS. More extreme would be my current monitor. Vsync enabled with 144Hz you mean to say the actual cap is 288 FPS?

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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it doesn't.

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the only thing that will cap FPS to hard 60fps is a framerate limit

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if you play any competitive game you should never enable Vsync

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I use g-sync compatible but I got vsync off
my monitor is 144hz
should i set limit in nvidia settings?

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Gsync is fine

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Vsync is detrimental

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 1:05 PM

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I used the gsync 101 guide from blurbusters

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Here's the full guide https://blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 1:05 PM

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for some reason im getting 2000fps in main menu screen on witcher 2 so will probably change some stuff

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 1:06 PM

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got MSI Afterburner installed?

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 1:06 PM

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no

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steam has built in fps counter just using that atm

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 1:07 PM

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you can create a custom fan curve in that program and set a frame rate cap with RTSS

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 1:07 PM

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will probably use afterburner to check other things though

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also my gpu is an evga one

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 1:07 PM

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adds 1 frame of latency but worth it

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doesn't really matter on branding. My 1080 Ti FE is from Asus

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 1:07 PM

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It's not generally ideal to hard limit a fan though

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set a curve so it'll still enable, otherwise you can damage the card

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if a fan is at high RPM it's because it is hot

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plain and simple

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ok is it fine on auto settings? (and no oc)
mine is a evga sc...

smoky flame Apr 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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default fan curve is far too conservative or so I've read

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 1:09 PM

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depends on the card model and make

maiden ingot Apr 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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salut tout le monde on peu ton mettre son server FS19 en publication svp??

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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evga sc 1060 6GB
changed the fps settings in nvidia control panel will check other things

ruby spear Apr 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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English only please #rules

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 1:11 PM

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ok I think I need to set a cap

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in the less more demaning games i mean

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its only gone up to 60C the gpu

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although id rather have a quieter pc tbh

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Any recommendations on a good vr racing game?

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:18 PM

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hmm, on PC? there aren't too many

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if any at all

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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No good VR racing games, just a few games that support VR.

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:22 PM

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doesn't horizon technically? or does the Sim-Cam not support it

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(I don't know as I don't have an HMD of my own)

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:23 PM

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As in Forza? Or another game

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:23 PM

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yeah

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horizon 4 added the sim-cam

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unsure about motorsport 7

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Oh, I didn't even know you could play them in VR.

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:24 PM

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I didn't either

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hence why I was asking lol

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I know the sim-cam exists, I just didn't know its functionality. I know Forza's very compatible with all sorts of equipment

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Oh right, sorry no, Windows store doesn't support it

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:25 PM

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was looking at this dirt 2.0 and project cars 2 but could not decide. Also was thinking about maybe no mans sky or a good space vr game. lol only have money for one thing so been looking all morning.

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Don't know if you can use other tools

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I've heard Dirt is better than project cars for VR, but I don't own either so I couldn't tell you

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:25 PM

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it supports full view sim cockpits

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and other dials and functioning meters

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so...maybe? might be worth searching online

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Oh cool

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Have you guys played no mans sky vr or any space vr games?

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:26 PM

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You can use some mods on PC to play VR, I know F1 2019 has VR support using mods

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Not played any space VR games 😦

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:27 PM

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space VR games can be terrifying due to scale/immersion

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but they're very good

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Same as that water one which name escapes me

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:27 PM

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NMS, Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen

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Subnautica?

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Ah yeah that one

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:27 PM

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that supports VR?

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:27 PM

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does steam do the if you dont like it in a certain time you can return it?

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Yeah, Steam version does

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and it's horrifying lol

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Yes Wired, I believe it's under 2 hours play time and less than 2 weeks owned

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I have elite dangerous its really relaxing its like a space trucker game

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:29 PM

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hahahahaha until you play VR

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you ever seen a to-scale star zoom up on your face as you come out of hyperjump?

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it...is...terrifying

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Yeah scale/immersiveness is completely different in any VR game

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My friends watched poison headcrabs jump at me in HL:A and thought it was fine, until they put on the headset and realised they were twice the size now and much closer to your face lol

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:30 PM

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dead headcrabs are the best though

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you can do all sorts of things with them

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https://youtu.be/3z8Ccyo1B7A

YouTube

Skyler

Adventures of Alyx and Headcrab

Since Alyx is quite alone during the combine invasion, and Russ gets on her nerves sometimes, she has to make friends along the way...and she did.
Discord Server: https://discord.gg/jAUFr72

I stream quite a bit, please do stop by!
https://www.twitch.tv/skyhighguardian
Ok subs...

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tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:31 PM

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yeah I have it in vr tho I cant seem to get it not to be blurry. I have been having issues setting up super sampling with my vr. cant seem to know if I should go with the steam app or occulos app or in game app.

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:31 PM

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examples, case and point

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what HMD do you have?

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:31 PM

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I cheated sometimes with the headcrabs and took off my headset lol... 😦

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I was too scared to deal with them haha

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:31 PM

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some are just going to be blurry regardless

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due to resolutions

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:31 PM

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I have occulos rift

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:31 PM

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😬

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not really much you can do there

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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how much better is the index?

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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I like the independent headset u don't need a pc for

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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higher than 1080 lol

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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I lot better IMO

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Index is high tech af

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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I went from a rift to an index

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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but so expensive

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Yeah, worth the price but cheaper VR kits do just as well

autumn sluice Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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If you play a lot of vr index is worth

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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the ONLY ones higher tech are

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https://www.pimax.com/

Pimax Innovation, inc.

VR headset, VR device

Pimaxvr.com - A platform providing high resolution PC VR devices made to take you incredible VR experience. Dedicated VR headsets for every VR gamers.

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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is it worth 900 or just enjoy the rift I have now?

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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and the index still has some features that are better

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Enjoy the rift 🙂

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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always enjoy what you have

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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lol

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Nothing wrong with the Rift at all

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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sure the index is really nice, but it's still $900

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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The index is better, but if you have an already more than capable headset, there's no point upgrading

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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unless you REALLY want bleeding edge lol

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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It is nice having 2 base stations and 360 degree play

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Flawlessly

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I went from playstation vr to occulos and it was like night and day.

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:34 PM

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oh yeah

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PSVR is really low-res in comparison

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Yeah PSVR is poor comparing, but still decent

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:34 PM

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it's good coming from a console

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:35 PM

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I would still with rift though, oculus store is good too

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:35 PM

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sony did well with it for what it is

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:35 PM

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I really want to play Robo Recall again, but I don't have oculus store 😦

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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My biggest complaint with vr is length of games. Seems like its hard to find a 40 hour game. but I guess thats cause most people dont play that long.

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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HL: Alyx

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skyrim/fallout

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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I completed that in 9 hours

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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borderlands 2

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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is alyx 40 hours?

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Don't get BL2

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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not quite full-length

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Massive rip off for VR

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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but it's the full-length of an average FPS

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so it's a feature-length in that regards

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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I have fallout and skyrim both awsome tho I wish I could figure out how to add mods with the vr.

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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HL:A is good, 9 hours is what I did and I RAN through the headcrab bits

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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and quite enjoyable with the stuff you can do

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Because honestly long that, not about that life

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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@tribal pilot nexusmods

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use SE or the VR category

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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But you can easily get 20 hours out of it, minimum

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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VR and SE use the same method

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the mod manager is capable of automating most of it

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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HL:A will end up having mods for it too soon

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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it already does lol

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I mean proper workshop mods

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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ah, yeah. workshop

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Not just what people are doing now, which is cool too though

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Ill check it out liked the better lighting or summer settings for skyrim.

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:38 PM

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infact really impressive considering there are no official tools yet

lusty oak Apr 18, 2020, 4:38 PM

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lol, workshop

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I have the remasterd skyrim version and its better with mods.

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:38 PM

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The walking dead saints and sinners is good

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Was looking at that but didn't seem like anyone played longer then 10 hours. so thought it was a short game.

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Depends what you do in it I guess. If you ran through it then yeah it could take that long. A lot of what VR is at the moment is exploration

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Wassup

tribal pilot Apr 18, 2020, 4:40 PM

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One of my favorite games so far is the forest now that is a long game and a little scary. I did get jumped scared a few times.

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:40 PM

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wherer is xbox-gaming chat or something

lusty oak Apr 18, 2020, 4:41 PM

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like regular chat?

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:41 PM

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ye

lusty oak Apr 18, 2020, 4:41 PM

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#general-chat

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:41 PM

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here

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general

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xbox is on PC, don't forget

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ooh

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ik windows+g

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or more...the several hundred games on PC that use xbox

jolly quarry Apr 18, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Wing it!

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:41 PM

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ye

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wing what?

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:42 PM

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The Forest was good, controls were crazy bad

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With the knuckles anyway, I mean

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:42 PM

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did you ever get the draw-distance up?

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what hea mean with wing it??

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Yeah! Can't remember what it was, but was an in-game setting

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:42 PM

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probably grass-distance or something like that

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we need to continue our run

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searching cod mw warzone weapon lvling and playing for fun no micro

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:42 PM

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It was saying as high, but was low, so I had to lower then higher it again or something. Can't exactly remember now

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Yeah 100%, I really enjoyed that

quasi storm Apr 18, 2020, 4:43 PM

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win+g = game bar = wing it lol

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:43 PM

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so if someone want play my gt is LongingNickel32 hehe auto nick

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:43 PM

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cod mw warzone weapon leveling? So Multiplayer? 😛

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:43 PM

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sorry for my language etc

obsidian bobcatBOT Apr 18, 2020, 4:43 PM

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If you're looking for someone to play with, please go to #587074461770186765

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:44 PM

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thank

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u guys u rather xbox or ps

plucky marsh Apr 18, 2020, 4:46 PM

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We like both 🙂

full flint Apr 18, 2020, 4:46 PM

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im never play at ps i dont own it

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only xbox

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i like xbox not doo like epic games to get players at it

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just cause 4 for free 🤣

lusty oak Apr 18, 2020, 4:47 PM

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what's wrong with just cause 4?