#pc-gaming
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Anyone have roblox on xbox?
and a mic?
If they did they wouldn’t be asking in this channel
I don't think so.
Considering Xbox Live functionality exists on PC and there are Play Anywhere titles, it makes plenty of sense.
Also microsoft and windows 10...
I wish that microsoft gives deals to Blizzard for crossplatform for overwatch.
Nothing is stopping Blizzard from adding crossplatform
They don't need a deal, they can do that whenever they want.
Given their previous statements I doubt it will happen
I'm pretty sure blizzard (correctly imo) balances overwatch differently on console and pc.
Also hearthstone
If I remember right, an example where that is needed is torbjorn where hes turret is almost useless with keyboard and needs to be buffed and almost unstoppable with a controller and needed to be nerfed
I haven’t heard of them doing that
But I only have it on pc and I play with controller
I remember them going into talks about it but they ultimately reverted
Did they? I could be wrong because that article is 4 years old
It's a shame really
Some stuff on xbox is harder than PC just due to the nature of controllers
I'll always prefer separate balancing on console/pc.
Name one thing besides something like strafe jumping that’s harder on controller
I’m genuinely curious
Don't all games on console have some form of auto-aim?
They come with aim assist yes, but some of the abilities I mean. Tangeebee mentioned torbj's turret which was a great example.
Not all
No but most.
It's always been the way that kb/m will always beat controllers. It's been done time and time again.
So naturally balancing is different.
It hasn’t been done time and time again. Most people are just bad with aiming on controllers
It’s an issue of complacency, not capability
They've done pros vs pros before.
again, complacency
OK
if a pro always uses controllers against controllers, or relies on an assist, that's complacency
That's not just the case
yes, it is
idk why but the old halo seems different to the modern ones
also old quake
I mean the old quake like arena
a game like GITS, it had no controller support specifically in the game, but allowed you to use a controller as a peripheral
I think quake shots are harder imo
zero assists, very twitchy game
controller users play against KBM
it functions fine
watch rocket jump ninja he done some stuff on it...
I'm not saying controller players can't play against PC players and win.
you're saying some things aren't possible on a controller
I've seen it done on CS:GO & Fortnite recently actually
and that's not true
No, that's not what I'm saying.
Yes.
which also is not true
I'm not saying this as an opinion though.
nor am I
9/10 a kb/m player will win.
it's all player-dependent
Ok, we'll leave that there then.
ultimately that's the only place it can be left, even in games like quake champions or DUSK
Most console players do game on tvs to be fair
it's ultimately just an ego stroke or complaint to have them divided that gets thrown around
That's not the issue either.
and as soon as a controller comes into a game with no assists on it and the player does well, someone complains they're cheating
Fair enough 🙂
I dont want to make it a skills argument, I think its dishonest to say the only difference is player skill. Let's ignore the very high levels, theres a reason why CS:Go was dead on arrival on console and why Call of Duty is far more popular on consoles. Game design is better when player input is taken into consideration. It matters that a K&M is snap aiming and controller is drag aiming.
there's a large difference in handicaps and design points
as a number of games allow for snaps or flicks with a controller as well
CoD has a lower popularity point on PC more because of the issues in networking that they have
every CoD since 4 has had extreme networking issues on PC, and some even on consoles (Black Ops 1, Ghosts, etc)
It's just a weak argument, and has been for the entire time frame of 8th gen
Fair enough mate 🙂
I'm not going to say you're wrong.
Just it's a lot of people's experience, both pro and new, that kb/m will outperform controller players.
So we'll put it down to different opinions.
there's a few pros on teams who use a controller for CSGO
the argument is flawed
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Like I said, we're all entitled to our opinions and that one is mine. 🙂
Well you say otherwise. I also said I'm not going to say you're wrong, just that I don't personally agree. No need to be antagonistic about it.
too true, lol
Well you could put rdr2 on that now...
Although does the meme still apply?
The og is on origin now right?
Wasn’t it always?
Origin existed in 2009?
Or whenenver crysis 1 came out
Added later...
ah
But can it run GTA V with photorealistic graphics mods?
continuing from #general-chat you have a 1650 Super Chief?
Nice, how is it or you not got that far yet?
its that a mitx build
look it was cheap ok
not saying they are bad
And yea it is
that was response to me lol
what CPU you got in there?
Ik that I'm gonna probably have to dump the Mobo in the future to really upgrade
Ryzen 5 2600
why is there a box in there by the way
ahh, not bad 🙂
And had a sale through my retailer so I paid 160$ cdn
Box is a psu shroud diy style
that box is the PSU shroud I believe
Extra cables under there and helps airflow
beat me to it there
My main issue is I only own really low demand games or f2p ones cause I never thought I would have a pc this powerful
not seen colour cables in soo long
I also have like no pc friends
what games do you play?
how close is that box to the fans on the gpu
@smoky flame I use a full desktop as a mobile computer, and it's permanently open-case too
:^ )
going to take a pic of my gaming rig. Think I'm being critical of it but I think it could do with some alterations, something I'm not doing until I upgrade though
Yea
This is my travel computer
gaming and streaming pc in one
more fans on top of the case
was about to say I thought I spotted two systems in there
That's the older brother to my case dark
It has a plexiglass siding but I leave both side panels off permanent
I’m pretty sure I lost them tbh
I should see if my rig can handle good streaming
You’ll be fine
when get case that have glass sides its not really easy to move around
I figure but I need to check with my games to see if they need some quality changes
I just prefer open airflow and ease of access
Mine has tempered glass on one side
one on my case is glass not lite
I can slide it out and swap components as I want
I would lave open but my shepherd has a bushwack tail
both systems are running off 1200w dual system psu
The Corsair 1000D is something I’m going to pick up soon.
some just prefer to offload
on another server when I asked what I should upgrade to since I feel it is time for an upgrade I was told to go with the Ryzen 5 3600. Coming from an Intel i7 6700K. Seems like it will be quite an upgrade but I'm going one (or two) better
ryzen 5 are really good at gaming
Sub really depends
Guy I talked to at the pc store said ryzen for multitasking and Intel for pure gaming
pfff
not true
its really what game is some are better intel others are better amd its a mixed bag
I may just wait it out until Zen 3/Ryzen 4000 launches and I go for the 4700X. 7nm+ 8c/16t
Ok correction: exact words were Intel is better if you just wanna play the game and nothing else whereas ryzen is better if you want to stream or have other things going too
that person must have been looking at them biased websites for info lol
AMD are catching up. It has become almost marginal between AMD and Intel now in terms of gaming performance between their top CPUs
but at minimum a processor would be dual-core
the normal users not really going to be able to tell anyway
Also, depending on when AMD do launch Zen 3 Intel may still be on 14nm! AMD have gained some seriously impressive ground on Intel these past few years
intel are bring out 7nm in 2021
Intel's 10th gen, for example is still 14nm. 11th gen said to be 10nm but we'll see. Talk of Intel delaying the launch of their 10th gen because the TDP is too high or something. 300W or something coming from their 10900K 10 core CPU
price for bang amd got them beat
ryzen 9 and threadripper making intel look like a joke
Intel languished at the top too long
complacency is a killer
I think Intel won't see 7nm until 2022 or 2023. They plan to go back to their old tick-tock starting with 10nm which means they launch a second 10nm CPU (10nm+) before going to a new fabrication
Also my psu shroud being cardboard is ok right?
it'll be fine, just don't let anything spark
cardboard has a high heat tolerance, but not a high ignition point

have to remember thats the part that powering everything going cheap on it is bad
doesn't really say anything lol
lol
the rating doesn't always tell the full picture with a PSU
could be 80+ Titanium and still have low quality components inside
PSU I have is a Corsair RM650i. 650W and its 80+ Gold
most of them are built by Seasonic
Seasonic are a top brand though I have heard some of their PSUs can't handle certain spec systems for some reason
one such article on what I mean. Back when I first found out about it I was a bit scared tbh https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/seasonic-issues-warning-focus-plus-psu-has-gpu-compatibility-issues.html
if i recall rmi onces are multi rail onces
I mostly stick with Corsair or EVGA for PSU
most of there psu are made by seasonic lol
corsair evga soo on design them and seasonic make them in there factories
yes, but it's a point on the designs that have issues
Corsair and EVGA's designs don't typically have issues
im using Phanteks one 12 years warranty on it
btw, here's the article talking about Intel delaying their 10th gen CPUs https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-reportedly-delayed-10th-gen-desktop-due-to-high-power-consumption.html
Bronze 
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/43929/phanteks-revolt-x-full-modular-platinum-1200w-power-supply thats my one
I don't got money to shell for gold or platinum
I mean, it'll last long enough for you to be fine
I'd probably not use the cardboard on it though
Bronze have a life rating of like, what, 2 years? a bit less?
not going to do that much for air flow really if you got good fans it should be fine
Quality psus have 7 year warranty
or was it 10
ultimately you'd upgrade one before then anyway
how i build new computers every year yes
even on an average case
typically 4-6 years are the longest use-case unless it's like an OEM
5 year warranty
run at a locked 60fps in metro exodus 1080p extreme with rtx on

That's a lot
yes please lol
they're single-platter
er, sorry
multi-platter, single-head
literally useless for desktops and gaming
Are those for servers
Gonna say that and workstation pc
Workstations dont really need it
mainly NAS or SAS
I have 960 gtx 1gb, 2gb ram, 222 memory and a 300w power
a 1GB 960? That can't be right. 960 was 2GB and some models even had 4GB
who uses normal drives on a server anymore we all uses ssd's
@opal bane
for data servers/centers
more space
SSDs are still expensive even in enterprise markets
i have an 8gb rog strix rx 580 overclocked
RX 580 isn't too bad a GPU. 8GB is great even gaming at 1080p. Good choice 🙂
@tender nymph
That is better than my 1060 6GB
i have a 1080p monitor dont need a 4k one right now too expensive more then my card
i can run anything at ultra 60 fps
1440p or 4K is expensive for me, the card even more
oh 1080p is plenty. No reason to go up to 4K imo
@tender nymph
try witcher 2 or rdr2
i might buy them when i have money and they go on sale
Witcher 2 with übersampling on
what does that do?
If you run game at 1080p it runs it at 4K then downscales
And if you run at 4K it runs at 8K then downscales
its like super sampling
would be better to use dsr
I dont run that
or play witcher 2...
ok
trying to figure out the best and least time consuming way to find the most stable frame times in the games I play so I can achieve the lowest latency while keeping the highest graphics settings active and so far I'm not having much fun
Yeah that is a problem I have faced on PC
pc gamer problems right? 😄
For me is trying to find settings which yields highest visual fidelity nd fps closest too 144
The Division 2 at maxed setting I drop my FPS almost in half and just about see stable frame times form. Using MSI Afterburner + Rivatuner with graphs for frame rate and frame time monitoring and apparently frame time being flat means they are stable. Eyeballing it every few seconds gets annoying real fast though
any one who plays The Forest
about that thing they had at CES (origin big o)
whats the difference between this and that
https://youtu.be/ErQQc6cUSTA
The Origin Big O 2019. A combo of PS4, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch and RTX Titan Gaming PC in one box.
Origin PC - https://www.originpc.com/big-o/
LG UltraGear 38GL950G - http://bit.ly/2Lf9Qy4
LG UltraGear IPS 1ms 27GL850 - http://bit.ly/2JJTgnX
FOLLOW ME IN THESE PLACES FOR U...
So you can't actually buy that (it a total of 4 systems)
vs the other which one which is only a max of 2
also that one has an Xbox One X and PS4 Pro
@full flint
they only build one real big-o
eventually it gets sold for some uber-price
the others are basically just gimmicky novelty computers
Ah
So thats the only one?
yes. it was sold for $15k
the one unbox therapy reviewed?
who owns it btw
that'd be like xbox telling someone who owns one of their consoles. it's a standard sale, nothing special
thought they only had one of those
doesn't mean they just announce someone who buys it. idk, they didn't say.
I'd imagine they treated it like a normal sale
ok seems fair
although the person who bought it likely sold it again...
it keeps on saying we cant sign you in try again later 0x409 can anyone help
Please don't post the same thing in multiple channels. #233805809346150400 is sufficient.
imagine the next xbox being a gaming pc
ok
Has Anyone here ever played Unravel? Just wondering not trying to intrude.
I've finished the first one and played a little of the second. I really enjoyed the first.
I was about half way through the first but had to reset my Pc, and now i cant reinstall it for some reason i have plans to try and repurchase it.
Big fan of the first game
But keep forgetting about the second so I really should get that played.
hi there. is it possible to connect a xbox 360 controller througfh the xbox one usb dongle?
You mean use a 360 controller on an XB1?
on a pc but with xbox 1 dongle
I got 2x 360 wireless controllers here but the receiver broke. so i think about getting a x box 1 controller with the usb thingy
I don't believe so. I think it only supports the XB1 controller. You need the 360 wireless receiver for that.
You can also use xbox one controllers (the newer ones) using bluetooth, USB or xbox wireless on PC.
maybe my PC upgrade I mentioned before isn't going to be so extreme. Decided to scrap the whole "4700X, 32GB ram and 3080 Ti" upgrade and just focus on upgrading my CPU for the time being. Much cheaper. I wouldn't even like to guess how much that original idea may have set me back after it all launches
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2w67kd new upgrade
X570? Interesting choice
mainly just to pair up the 3600 and some of the latest Ryzen 3000 features and whatnot. If A520 and B550 existed I would have opted for a B550 motherboard instead
yeah, well aware of being able to use b450 but I'd prefer not to have to go through any extra hassle tbh. Would like to have it work out the box pretty much
Still would be nice if they had b550 boards...
X470 is a good compromise?
Depends on what processor you have
I run an x470 with my 2700x and it works great
My 3600 runs great.
im running x570 with my 3800x so no idea
its really upto how much money want to throw at a motherboard they can really start get up there in price
Also cpu and gpu and ram
Speaking of ram
@smoky flame
Can't you use the DDR4 from your old PC if you have it?
I could but it is older and is much slower. That 3200MHz kit I have listed will be overclocked further to try and reach Ryzen 3000's optimal 1:1 mode for ram - 3733MHz, CL17. Failing that I'll get to 3600, CL16
ok fair enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ6gXWm6HwU
For those that are interested in Half Life: Alyx. Some screenshots. No spoilers 🙂
No story spoilers at least.
I have the best gaming computer
My gpu is GeForce GTX 780
and I have the AMD FX-9590
what if there was a pc with RTX 3000 Nvidia geforce ?
Something tells me that GPU will now struggle quite a bit. 3GB ram on the 780 won't really get far with more recent games
also, the fx 9590? is that not a really hot running 8 core CPU? I can recall reading up on a 5ghz 8 core AMD CPU from the FX era
Da bestest computer
@full flint

Seen that last week
one think I've noticed with AMD GPU pricing it appears there is a $120 difference per GPU. 5500 XT - $159, 5600 XT - $279, 5700 XT - $399. Going by that, if AMD launch two more GPUs (5800 XT and 5900 XT) their prices could be like so. $529 for the 5800 XT and $649 for the 5900 XT
Still cheaper than 2080ti
Also you mean for Navi right?
I think the 5900XT will be more though
could well be more expensive, no one besides AMD will know until closer to whenever pricing etc is actually announced. $649 would be crazy, especially if it turns out that is the GPU that beats the 2080 Ti in that OpenVR benchmark by 17%
Nvidia will likely have 3000 series then
yeah, for sure. Nvidia could be set to announce their next gen in March at GTC. Some talk going about that we could see Ampere (3000 series) released some time in June
That would be early, although I think the 1080 was june 2016 (cannot remember exactly though)
I hope this time Nvidia don't launch their X080 Ti successor so fast. Launch X050 -X080 first, keep a Titan in reserve then some time after the launch of the Titan launch the X080 Ti. Throw back to their 900 series schedule
I think the X050 will have a weird name as the 1650 and 1660 did
Then super cards the year after
Hope no super cards later 20 series was a mess imo. Nvidia should have launched 20 series with the specs the later launched SUPER cards shipped with
Agreed
staying with nvidia the drivers for amd vide cards aren't that great
yeah, I don't know what's happened to AMD and their driver stability lately. It has taken quite the hit. Hopefully it is something they can sort before the launch of even more powerful GPUs
Agreed
the control planel is nice drivers are bad
Has anyone found any decent alternative to plays.tv since it shut down? Been using Medal but would be nice for it to record the whole gameplay rather than just last 30 seconds or so.
Surely you can use OBS?
Doesn't that only upload to YouTube?
Or rather, exports it to something for me to upload?
OBS? No, it's to whatever service you want. I use it for Twitch, Mixer, restream.io, etc
Yeah so that's for streaming though.
I mean recording of clips and saving. Then uploading them to a site.
To share clips etc.
oh, you can just record locally to your PC, and then upload wherever
one of them let you record clips forgot which one
Yeah so that's the bit I want to avoid, uploading wherever.
Thanks though 🙂 I'll stick with Medal for the moment 🙂
so you want it to auto-upload?
Has a nice phone app too to share.
I'm confused what you're looking for
Not auto-upload as such, but what Plays.tv used to do was record my whole gameplay, then I could grab a certain amount of time and upload it to plays website.
Like the xbox record, but instead of the last x seconds, the whole session. From game start up to shut down.
Ah without editing...
Then I could pick out from that session what I want uploading.
and it would upload to a service, plays in this case.
Which made it easy for me to share clips with friends etc.
Sorry if that doesn't make sense
I can use Medal to record the last x amount of time.
Does something like that exist already?
game hightlights...
But I wanted a start to finish game session recording that I could also easily upload to a service for easy sharing.
i like the new fps cap in the nvidia driver
Most of them only record the last x amount of seconds though
same here I will probably cap at 100 or 120
With plays it recorded everything and you could 'bookmark' the play to check out later.
does nvidia shadowplay do the same thing
or do you mean for xbox
No for PC, I'll look at shadowplay
Hmm that looks like it is DVR-style and can start recording before a game starts. That might be something more I'm looking for. Thanks will download and give it a go 🙂
does freesync work for you guys in forza?
We talking Horizon 4 or Motorsport 7? I have a gsync monitor, like freesync but hardware based rather than software
horizon 4
gsync seems to work fine so freesync should too 🤔
i just recently got a monitor upgrade, the screen tearing seems to be worse than gsync
i had some screen tearing with gsync when i had my old monitor, but its worse with freesync
what GPU you got?
1080ti
ahh, same as me then 🙂 Yeah, if you bought a freesync monitor you better hope it is gsync compatible. Works like freesync does (software based rather than hardware) but the whole "gsync compatible" thing isn't available on all freesync monitors
know the exact model?
ok, so if you haven't already, you may have to enable it through the nvidia control panel
it is enabled, but i see a new setting that wasent there before
display specific settings
hover over it and scroll down to see what the description gives about that option
hmm strange setting. Guess you could click it and see what it does. Sounds like it could be useful
ill try that
when i enabled it, the display flickered
so it did something
i also capped the fps at 95
if you aren't sure though I'm sure google can help as I don't have that option or know what it does. So I can't help beyond that, sorry 😦
thanks for the help
what's the refresh rate of your monitor?
100hz
still tearing, it never worked properly for me
even with gsync it would still tear
try capping it 3fps below. There is a guide from blur busters I follow called gsync 101. Not sure if their options also apply to gsync compatible monitors but you could try them
another thing is Forza doesn't allow frame rate capping but there is a workaround
yeah, I was just about to get there lol. I was going to make sure your drivers were most up to date then say to you to enable the max frame rate option and cap it to 97 FPS. G sync not working as it should is a bit odd though I think
it was only with forza to
let me try Forza on my monitor again. My monitor has an LED that indicates when gsync is in use (red light) provided that stays red it shows to me gsync is active and in use
followed the guide, enabled vsync in the control panel along with the 3 fps below the refresh rate
perfect
vsync adds some latency but will remove the tearing. The point of a 3 fps cap below your monitor's refresh rate is so that it avoid FPS from hitting the gsync ceiling. Capping it at 100 FPS for example isn't exactly 100 fps and when it goes over that (which it will occasionally) gsync disengages or something. Pretty technical stuff
well the guide said to turn it on
Hi
Random interjection here
If you’re gaming for maximum competitiveness, turn off both vsync and gsync
Ok have fun
well with my new monitor, its not optimal
Doesn’t matter
theres only one really bad thing about my monitor, its the response time
“Optimal” is an opinion
For me, “optimal” is the least latency possible. Both gsync and vsync introdunce it.
another option I think would be to keep gsync and vsync as they were and find a way to eyeball frame time (not possible in FH4) and set it to a level where the frame time is 99% stable. Said to achieve the lowest latency that way, even though it lowers FPS
Also vsync + gsync needed to work sounds like the monitor isn’t built very well
The whole point of gsync is to replace vsync
Well gsync isn’t a stop-all anti-tearing feature
it appears gsync needs vsync though as I noticed tearing once not having vsync enabled even with a 141 fps cap to stop FPS from going beyond the refresh rate
It also depends how well it’s built and what version of gsync it uses
My 240hz Monitor eliminates tearing from 165fps down to like... 30 I think
Anything over 165 and I simply get a reduction in tearing
I have it turned off completely because tearing doesn’t matter to me. I care about the smallest delay possible
most of the games i play sat around 80-120~ fps
wait you have a 240hz monitor and can't have it keep tear free all the way up to 237 fps?
wow, I didn't even know that until now. So in other words 240+ hz monitors aren't ideal?
They can’t work that high
No they’re still the best in the competitive world
They’re effective on making it smoother, but it won’t eliminate tearing completely
yeah but if you can't make use of gsync then what's the point? Premium money spent on a feature that cannot be used and sure competitive gamers may not care for gsync, freesyn or vsync etc but still
It can be used?
some games where it cant hit that and falls in the range
^
yeah, I get that part... Somewhat walked myself into that one there
Nobody who cares that much about having a tear free experience is going to buy a 1080p240 monitor
Nobody
yup
by any chance is your 240hz monitor the ASUS PG258Q?
Acer xb272
with my monitor i decided to go more on the visuals than the performance
is the 60-144-240hz difference that significant.Like from one to the other
i know i was able to tell the difference between 60-100-120-144
and by significant i mean noticeable
60 to 144 is quite significant. After that it sort of diminishes
You won’t notice going from 144 to 240. But going back down to 144, you will 100% notice
That’s bs
the highest ive ever seen was 165hz
but most of the games ran at like 100-144 fps most of the time
at best
I’ve been playing on it long enough that I can notice (like it distracts me) once it drops down to like 190. But I have most of my games optimized so it never gets that low anymore.
my monitor can overclock to 180hz but it introduces some overly bright parts to the screen and can be a bit off putting. ASUS PG248Q
i upgraded the cpu since i sold my old monitor though
I’ll be buying that 360hz one whenever it comes out
i knew it
lol have fun getting all that FPS
240 is amazing and I can’t wait to push my skills even father
I mean my 2080ti can hit it
yeah but can your cpu?
I7 8700k
4.6 clock
Nvidias ampere cards come out soon. Already have a friend buying my 2080ti. Should be easy enough with the next gen cards
9900K and 2080 Ti can be bottlenecked at 1080p so no matter how much fps your GPU can throw out CPU still has to keep up and they generally can't with some games
I mean
I run overwatch at 2k300 and only 300 because that’s the highest the game can go
its 400
you can rig the settings to go to that
ive always had issues getting games to go that high
Well if you could tell me how to do that please let me know
overwatch always sat around 150-200
I use the custom cap and 300 is as high as it lets me go
the ryzen 5 3600 bumped the frames up though
I can't wait to upgrade my CPU this year. Moving from Intel to AMD. 6700K (14nm, Skylake) to 3600 (7nm, Zen 2)
Nice
in fh4 the cpu was at 100% the entire time, getting around 60-80 fps
I have a 2700x in my streaming PC
I noticed you aren't gaming at maxed settings in FH4. Not that it is a bad but there are options beyond ultra
yeah i know
Idk if I got a really good chip or something but I have yet to have my 8700k bottleneck me
Usually my 2080ti caps out first
I don't know exactly how a bottleneck plays out tbh. Like is it noticable or can one still get really good performance even under "bottlenecked" conditions? 🤔
Bottlenecking isn’t too common for a CPU nowadays unless it’s a quad core, or you’re running a game that uses vulkan or DX12 api
brb getting a cup of tea
i was going to get the new nvidia cards
i think i figured out a good upgrade cycle for the gpu
just skip a generation
yeah, I might be doing the same. 3080 Ti might be a bit much though. Guess we'll see soon though. Hopefully this year
might be worth looking at AMD too though. high end Navi coming along soon. Likely before Nvidia launch their next gen GPUs and high end Navi could work out cheaper yet still perform better than the 2080 Ti
ill be looking at amd, but it depends on how good the 3080ti will be
amd could offer something better than the 2080ti, but is it better than the 3080ti type thing
well if rumours have been anything to go by Ampere could be as much as 50% faster than Turing. Awkwardly though there was no specifics but I think that "50% faster" will only apply to RTX performance
oh yeah, dying light 2 is supposed to have some RTX
kinda makes me want to get an RTX card now but i gotta wait
yep they were going to release the game earlier but decided it would be a cross-gen title which for a game thats releasing Spring is a long wait to see the differences on next-gen.
may upgrade my PC in the future but no plans right now.
I may yet give RTX another generation before I buy into, all pending how well its top end (Non-Titan card) does against the 1080 Ti. RTX performance it will of course blow it away but Nvidia have to remember not every game supports RTX or even ray tracing in general so my main focus in buying an upgrade will still be on the general compute power improvements
hopefully the new consoles change that a little
1080 Ti to 2080 Ti did not meet what I had expected (40%+) so I'd like to think a two gen leap may meet what I was hoping but that was hopes in 2018 or whenever the Turing GPUs launched. I feel I have to up my performance expectations further
+70% (or greater) performance improvements over 1080 Ti in general compute power doesn't sound too ridiculous to expect right?
that would be a nice upgrade for me if it is
i think digital foundry said 60% performance increase would be the best time to upgrade
it should be that high, its been a whole gen
yeah, I say 70% purely because of the leap in generation and expecting only 40% two generations on from the 1080 Ti Nvidia would be taking the micky for sure, especially if they keep the price the same or up it further. Give me a reason to want to buy that GPU, not avoid it!
And here is me with my 1060 6GB and 1080p 144hz monitor... 😂
still a good setup though
i went to 1440p 144hz
then to 3440x1440 100hz, wanted to try out some ultra wide
my laptop though is going to show its age this year
Ah you are on a laptop?
Or PC?
Both my devices are already outdated by 2020 standards
i have a desktop and laptop
i got the laptop used back in 2017 i think, for a pretty good deal
it has a 970m, 6700hq, 16gb RAM, 128 GB SSD/1TB HDD combo
it was like $1,400 new, and i got it for $470
the 970m is in between the 1050 and the 1050ti
Ah nice
Mine is a HP Probook 470 G1 I have
(not for gaming but it does have a hd 8750m)
And of course no Full HD screen...
thats not bad i guess
mines an alienware r2 15
RDR really shows its age though
low-med 720p 60
pretty much xbone with double the framerate
guys is kingdom come deliverance worth it ?
I have the game (actually got it for free) not played it
think it is with gamepass xbox one not sure about PC

Been playing The Division 2 for most of tonight and I was trying to see if I could fix the DirectX 12 crashes I've been having since launch day and I thought I was onto something but it still crashed. I want to make DirectX 12 my go to API this year since it really does seem there are performance improvements to be had but crashes are having me rethink 😦
i normally go for dx11 if i had a choice
most of the time dx12 is worse
but the newer games are getting better with dx12
or switching to vulkan
typically both
on what games?
oh, i usually get the same performance or slightly worse
Including Borderlands? I was worried to use it on that.
slightly better here, nothing groundbreaking
Ah fair enough
if i sail the seas i might find it
it runs equally bad across all systems 
There is that too, Dark lol.
for some reason the Volumetric Fog in BL3 is just......not optimized at all
But I couldn't run it using dx12
most of my friends already played it, so i might not even get it
i wasent buying it on the epic store
nor was I
Personally I preferred 2, but I enjoyed it still.
my roomate got it
and since he has a slightly older gaming laptop I just let him install on my dekstop
I don't regret getting it on Epic Store but I understand why a lot of people didn't want to.
i like how gog galaxy 2.0 manages the games better than the epic store
i can see all the games at a glance, like steams way of doing it
I like the multi-plat integration
gog?
Good Ol Games
Oh cool, not heard of that before.
Ah that'd be why
i was going to get cyberpunk 2077 on it
Looks cool though. I usually just add stuff to steam
Might not end up using it as I don't have platform specific friends but it looks nice still
i can see that i own xbox fitness with it
LOL was about to say
The origin name is only different one (ignoring Steam that you can change any time)
I need to contact them to get that fixed
I have that issue on origin too
hmm can I launch games from GOG and it won't open that game's original launcher?
I think it's just a platorm thing
I am Albzi and BeatAlex somehow
Yeah that's a good point
it supports the rockstar launcher to
Although I assume it will
that must be a new integration
Uplay launcher is needed for siege for example
So I guess it jst opens up those launchers?
it can launch through Galaxy2.0
😮
I wonder how many other hidden ones there are
downloading GOG now
I'm not on laptop anymore, does it support VR games too then?
i think you need to be invited for 2.0
Or will that have to launch Steam for SteamVR?
wewe is good
ioi#2148 has been banned.
says it is in open beta so I should just be able to download and install, no invitation required
yeah
it's finally open
there's all the integration possibilities
neat humble bundle is there
Hmm, if it ends up opening other launchers I'll probably remove it so hope it's good.
I think it only launches them if you install from it
no lol
Oh sorry I don't understand
actually, it does use the other launchers
but that's not the purpose of it
it's an aggregator
Oh
so you can just do it from one location
I just use Steam for that
it basically has that function that steam has, but on a broader level
since it supports UWP
Oh, well for me probably not worth it then. Thanks though! Still looks cool
it's still WIP, so hopefully in the future
Yeah I'll keep an eye on it
I understand why it opens the other launchers, they have to verify licenses
so that makes sense
cyberpunk is coming up quick
Yeah I get that, wouldn't mind if it was silent maybe
it's the only thing that allows you to see all of your libraries in one though
so less scrolling and manually opening each launcher
since it does it when you click play
it's just a convenience factor
I have it all on Steam anyway, even the uninstalled games
most of my games are on steam anyway
I know they were talking about it
I'll definitely keep an eye on it
nothing really worth mentioning from ubisoft or EA
Siege I play a lot
90% of the time i use the rockstar launcher or the windows store
Smite kind of has its own launcher too, not sure how that works. And FFXIV. Not tried to launch without steam
Maybe I'll give it a go and just use it for a few days, see how I get on.
i used to have steam on startup, till i realized i dont play to many of my games off of it
oh yeah the overwatch launcher
i forgot about that
Yeah, battle.net
for some reason, that launcher uses like 40-50% of my cpu everytime it has to update something
i just looked at some of the release dates for some games
coming a lot sooner than i thought
well i remember saying, that life is strange 2 is going to start 2020 for me
it did
i would like to build a linux gaming pc to try it out
I too throw away money
I could definitely get used to GOG. One thing needs to happen to really get me on board with it though. Silent integration. Basically have games show that are installed on the PC and be able to launch games without having the launcher where that game is installed open with it
or i could install it on my laptop
something secondary to try it out
i have an i3 550 i think sitting around
buy like a $40 gpu and there
@smoky flame license verification
it'll always require those launchers
especially for their online functionality
hmm could be it has launcher launch first time to verify beyond that (and updates) the user could have the option to run completely silent
not exactly possible
as that'd require offline mode
or those platforms giving GOG access to their license verification
yeah, there is that 😦 Maybe some day
i doubt it would ever happen
as much as I like GOG I think I prefer keeping to one launcher tbh
ultimately by using several launchers individually you're doing the opposite of just that
yeah but I'd never have them all open at once. GOG means I effectively have two launchers going on anything that isn't Xbox or bought from GOG itself
it automatically opens them and launches the game, which can be beneficial for me since I don't have to scroll a mile in my start menu to find them
Only reason I stick to one launcher at a time was since I bought the division on steam back when it launched I wasn't aware I required uplay as well and that annoyed me since any time I wanted to play The Division it would have required having both Steam and Uplay open at the same time. Never had that issue since
all uplay games are like that
yup
its worse now since they switched to epic
i think the game installs twice if you have the epic version

you download from epic, launches uplay, then uplay downloads it, plays game
yeah, back then I wasn't aware though. I was still learning a lot about PC gaming and all the stuff. Safe to say I think I have come a long way in a pretty short space of time (4 years in June!)
i remember it being an issue with the division 2
i fully switched to pc back in like 2015
moved over from xbox
I only made the full switch to PC gaming last February. Was on PS4 before getting into PC in 2016. No idea what possessed me to stick with PS4 for a little over 2 more years from getting my PC though
i kinda drifted back a little bit
i bought a ps4 pro last year to play some exclusives
i think i put more than 300 hours on it since i bought it
well i had to add it up from the games i played
the dashboard doesnt track the hours
for some reason
I put over 2000 hours into Warframe on PS4. It was pretty much the only game I really played on it and it sure wasn't going to be enough to keep me on PS4
the game i played the most on mine was gta online
i bought a year of psn + for red dead online a month before it came out
i dident really like it so, instead of wasting the year, i got gta 5 for like $15 on sale
after going threw the settings, like 90% of the features are locked behind psn+
like updating games automatically
yup, was waiting for the pc version
the 3 exclusives i bought for my ps4, eventually came to pc
how was Death Stranding? I may pick it up on PC too some time after it releases
it was good, really good
most fun I've had on any game in quite some time
though, it's a slow burn at the beginning
@lean finch promised he'd continue it, and hasn't been heard from since
same old Kojima ways of really long, unskippable cutscenes?
you can skip them...I think
they're long though
but you'd be...bluntly....kinda an idiot to skip them
as the information given to you is kinda important
Funny is dead, this is remaining subconscious
play the game subconsciously then remaining subconscious
I can't discuss the game with you until you do anyway
it only takes about 20 hours to beat if you're moving quickly and only focusing on the main objective
does the game have multiplayer?
not...exactly
i remember someone saying theres a hub world or something
it's similar to how NieR does online
with a bunch of other players
no
never played one of those games
no hub, you can't see other players
they can leave items in the world, and they show up in yours
or items they drop
oh ok
they can also give out contracts for you to deliver, and vice versa
that makes sense now
sorry for the ping mate, but is a R9 380X Nitro Sapphire 4 GB good @smoky flame
how much are you paying for it?
it’s the graphics card i had, just wondering if I have to replace it or not
its ok, depends on what you want to do with it
if you wanted to do 1080p med-high settings 60 for modern games i would upgrade it
i think it would start to show its age this year though
its more powerful than a 1050ti, on par with a 1650
its pretty good
try to get the best you can with the money you have
if you can save like another $100 you can get a 2060
My build can play most modern games at 1080p 60fps even at high settings so I’ll stick with that
maybe in the future
yeah it would be fine for now
its about 20% faster than my laptops gpu
RDR really shows its age
if games are going to be like RDR this year, its gonna suck
my laptop is able to run rdr, its just i have to drop the resolution to 720p
I have rx 580.
i thought you had an r9 380x
when did you build it?
thats pretty good
XLR8, you play Quake Champions?
No
Are any of you still on windows 7?
i upgraded last year
Uuuuuh
Regarding anyone running Windows 10 on their device
The NSA has released an official, public statement urging everyone to update their Windows devices as soon as possible. An exploit has been identified in the current version of Windows 10 that can allow malicious software to be automatically installed on your computer, under the guise of approved Windows updates. This means that very soon, hackers will be developing tools to be able to take control of and install malicious software to over 900 million PCs worldwide, with little to nothing that can be done to stop or remove the infected software due to the system believing it is from an approved Windows Update. The NSA and US Department of Defense urges everyone on Widows 10 to update their computer IMMEDIATELY, as a fix for the exploit has already been released. Again, failing to update now will put your machine at extreme risk in the future. Links to the OFFICIAL NSA statement and a detailed news report are included below for you to read.
https://media.defense.gov/2020/Jan/14/2002234275/-1/-1/0/CSA-WINDOWS-10-CRYPT-LIB-20190114.PDF
https://www.wired.com/story/nsa-windows-10-vulnerability-disclosure/
thanks @autumn sluice
sounds like NSA released their new spy software and need us to install it asap lol
could be taken either way tbh
sounds sketchy to me
How come Microsoft hasn't released an official statement 🤔
Everything is sketchy in security stuff lol
The funny thing is the security flaw was discovered by the NSA
Just looking at articles now
Didn't heard of this until today
microsoft knows how to make a great operating system!
well im updating all my computers
wouldn't say Windows 10 is great. It works but it could be better imo
You use pro or home?
@smoky flame
Pro is slightly better IMO
but not worth the extra price
Or just buy Windows 7 then use the free upgrade offer lol
If it's still active I mean
I think it is
but do not get home premium...
Why?
Isn't it just advanced version of home basic?
No it was limited to 16GB ram I think
professional has more
I think home premium support ended in 2015, professional in 2020, which is why you probably see every device with that OS...
Yeah mainstream was 2015 extended 2020
I see people either use Ultimate or Professional here
And Starter if their PC is potato as hell like my old laptop lol
Win 10 is 128 by default 
To my knowdelge 64 bit processors can adress up to 64 exabytes of RAM or something?
Not that we need 64EB RAM but just asking
Something like that
32-bit had a max of 4
I remember 3,25
I believe the professional version of windows 7 has more max ram capacity than the standard of windows 10...
Also 10 Pro currently is 2TB
Yes they bumped it up
Because of Mac Pro, in case of someone installing it Win 10
Kronixio, I have Windows 10 Pro
Drugs. That's what Corsair has been doing.
I had a discussion on this case the other day
Nobody is going to want this
A chassis full of PC parts is heavy and dangerous to just be sliding around
Somethings gonna break. Either the case or a water cooling tube or power cable or something
hahahhahahahaha
Idk if you looked into that case
people want this
It’s a chassis inside of a case
Yes. I did
It’s so dumb
and a lot of people want it, despite that fact
I love cougar cases
But not this one
My cougars 
@smoky flame
Nice
@main ether https://store.steampowered.com/app/655610/Horse_Racing_2016/ WEEKLONG DEAL! $0.99
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$0.99
for the PC portion of friends
You got a Steam account, Sam? 😉
Wow
Fine I'll buy it.
17/17 reviews are negative. Good start.
You're not getting out of it so easy though, Dark.
bruh apex legends muted me, you will accept me right? pls
i just wanted to make a friend
the story of my life
OK, time for some good news: Sony's PS4 exclusive Horizon: Zero Dawn is coming to PC this year, sources tell Kotaku. It's an unprecedented move that may help usher in a platform-agnostic future. https://t.co/1bXcUf2z3m
Grain of salt
Interesting that they use platform-agnostic but still not release it on xbox...
But I suppose that doesn't technically include the xbox. It would just be nice.
omg please be true. I'd buy Horizon Zero Dawn in a heartbeat
Duh just release all gam... oh I forgot exclusives are only reason to buy PS lol
and some japanese only ones
nice
oh
its making my ps4 pro purchase more of a mistake
well if it does come to pc
i will learn for the next generation
wait till the end of the generation for the games to come to pc, and get them cheaper i assume
bonnie is no longer broken
O_O
i wonder how far i can get
getting like 20-30 fps
Both Horizon: Zero Dawn and Death Stranding use Guerrilla Games’ Decima Engine, and both are coming to PC either confirmed or rumor, doesn’t seem coincidental
It could mean we see Until Dawn make it to PC as well, as that also uses the engine.
And Man of Medan was multi-platform, so Supermassive may expand.
Possibility of the newer killzone, but that game wasn’t as well received as the earlier ones
Yeah, I was thinking that maybe they'll skip that one
I personally hope they don’t.
But who knows. Interest in PS4 exclusives on PC enough could carry it.
Yeah
That’s what I’m hoping
If Sony finally uses PC as the neutral territory on the console competition, then I’m all for it
PC as a neutral territory makes so much sense
It’d also mean that Nintendo would be the holdouts on that same ideology. But they’ve always been a bit behind in terms of changing business practices, which isn’t always a bad thing.
They would be too scared of piracy on PC
It's rampant enough on their platforms as it is.
That and it doesn’t use x86
I genuinely hate msi
I really wish I would’ve went with a different mobo brand
Incredible
https://twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/1217918769517015048?s=20
https://twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/1217919414626070547?s=20
Horizon on PC is a start, but Microsoft is still a long way ahead of PlayStation making a serious move to a platform agnostic future. Argue your games are worth more than slapping in a sub, sure, but the future is everyone being able to access great games wherever they pl...
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Horizon will be followed by others down the road - you don't need to Dream too hard to guess. But Xbox is already well-established launching games on PC at the same time, and eager to explore Switch...
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With the capitalisation of 'Dream' in there, are they referring to Quantic Dream, which are already know about, or perhaps hinting at Dreams coming to PC?
Because PC is a perfect platform for Dreams.
I think that's what it's alluding to
Quantic Dream doesn't have ties to sony anymore, and already announced they were coming to PC
Yeah, that's what I thought, it's not much of a big reveal for news we already know about.
Dreams on PC would be perfect, though. There's tons of modders and game makers on PC that they could make some amazing stuff.
yeah
What we're seeing from console users is already pretty amazing, so in the hands of experienced game makers and mod developers, that could turn into something quite special.
While I've no interest in playing it myself, they need to get Bloodborne out on PC. They'll go nuts for that one and it will sell very well.
I wonder if and when more playstation exclusive titles make there way to PC, presumably through the EGS if that will mean PC gamers who maybe already owned them digitally on PS4 could link their PS4 account and have a sort of cross save thing going on
That talk of Horizon Zero Dawn coming to PC really has me excited. I might even be open to giving God of War another try if it too comes to PC. Maybe the extra performance PC can offer is what these games need to really shine
Don't get your hopes up, the only reason Xbox games coming to Windows is they owned by same company. There is no way big games such as GOW and TLOU coming to PC. It's just... against the politics of PS
We'll see.
Sony said it themselves, they can't afford to get complacent.
While not always 100% dead on, Jason Schreier has some pretty decent sources and tends to get a lot of info.
Ofc, I'm more than ok the idea PC being a neutral area and get all exclusive stuff. But Sony can't convince PC users to buy a PS if that's the case
Considering MS and Sony make a loss on the hardware, getting PC players on board for a handful of exclusives doesn't benefit them that much any way, Those people don't get invested in the subscriptions and stuff, they just want the exclusives.
So why try and focus on selling them a box that they make no money on when they can just sell them the games on another platform that they already have?
Software and Subscriptions are where profit is made
selling game software to an even larger market is a heavier profit margin
Even more so if you can get a subscription out to a second market, like Microsoft did with PC Game Pass.
If Sony get more of their games on PC, it will help them to push whatever their next streaming service is.
reading all this gave me the biggest smile on my face in a while 😄 I like how it all sounds. The potential is most definitely there. Just the good old waiting game, which isn't so fun 😦
It feels like horizon if true will be on epic store first...
very doubtful
the only case of an SIE game on EGS is ReadySet Heroes, and that was due to Robot Ent. having a deal before the game got picked up by sony
Sony's 1st party games are AAA, EGS Exclusivity exempts AAA games
which is why Death Stranding, Cyberpunk 2077, and others will release on there, as well as on other platforms
What about detroit becone human?
Quantic Dream detached from SIE entirely
they're now multiplatform, and independent.
ah
thats the first I heard of that
Borderlands 3 is AAA...
also rdr2 2 when it was egs exclusive
@autumn sluice BL is more in the AA market
RDR2 was never EGS exclusive
it released on the Rockstar Launcher before either EGS a week later or Steam a month later.

Howdy folks. Anyone know how to force a game to upload saves from one machine to the cloud? Cloud saves worked when I went from my desktop to my laptop for The Outer Worlds, but it's looking like it just refuses to go backwards.
is the game services updated?
How can I check?
open the microsoft store and check for any app updates
Game is the same version on both machines, updating the Xbox app on both now to be safe.
...somehow doubt this will help, though, since cloud sync worked once already.
don't see any updates for that on either machine
so I'm assuming it's up-to-date on both
I ended up just uploading the save file manually to onedrive and replacing it on my desktop 🤷♂️
Is there any place I can file a bug report for this, though?
feedback hub
Thanks, and sent.
dark, why avoid MSI?

