#pc-gaming | XBOX | Page 50

full flint Sep 8, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Yeah. Core overclocking is not forgiving

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2Mhz off and you can BSOD

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Super finicky stuff

median hedge Sep 9, 2019, 11:43 PM

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When will gears 5 unlock on the windows store

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It will be midnight soon in my location

smoky flame Sep 9, 2019, 11:48 PM

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should be available now. I was playing it not too long ago

median hedge Sep 10, 2019, 12:02 AM

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"We know you really want to get started, but you’ll have to wait a bit longer. Check the store for the launch date."

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I'm getting that message lol

full flint Sep 10, 2019, 12:03 AM

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have you check the store?

median hedge Sep 10, 2019, 12:06 AM

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it says play

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https://prnt.sc/p40nhs

vagrant stump Sep 10, 2019, 11:53 AM

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Anyone having problem with Gears 5? My laptop with GTX 1050 2GB is having some issue.

Firstly the game popped up a notice at the beginning that this series of graphics card has a compatibility issue and then after completing chapter one my game crashed and when I tried to reload from the last check point, the game is not starting at all. It shows loading and loading.

Anyone facing the same?

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 12:02 PM

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That GPU only just makes it into the minimum end of the listed requirements but it being a laptop 1050 may have it drop below even that. What settings you running? Better yet, what CPU and ram you running? Can be a whole range of issues tbh. Anything from hardware to programs on your PC conflicting with Gears 5 and EAC to simply Gears 5 and it's settings being too much for your system

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one thing I can recommend. Look out for the next nvidia GPU driver (launches soon, today I believe) and make sure to update. Said to come with optimisations to Gears 5 so may just improve the game's stability for you somewhat

sand basin Sep 10, 2019, 12:32 PM

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know anything about wheels ? g27 or g29 or g920 ? all around same price

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was thinking about getting one to improve on real life driving lol and then save up for a htc vive or rift .. whats your thoughts ? would it help ?

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 12:59 PM

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I have the g920, yet to use it but bought it to maybe give myself some feel for what it would be like driving a car irl lol. As for VR that's up to you tbh. Personally I don't think I'll be touching VR for the foreseeable future

thick maple Sep 10, 2019, 2:04 PM

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anyone else's gears 5 freezing on pc

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:04 PM

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you updated the drivers? (if on nvidia)

plucky marsh Sep 10, 2019, 2:05 PM

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My 1070 is fine

thick maple Sep 10, 2019, 2:05 PM

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im on amd

plucky marsh Sep 10, 2019, 2:05 PM

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Even though it said there were potential compatibility errors

barren knot Sep 10, 2019, 2:05 PM

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Initially I wanted to upgrade my PC for cyberpunk but there are no significant upgrades atm, I might just upgrade my 1080p monitor to a 1440p monitor, instead of using my 4k TV on my PC 🤔

I need to try gears 5 when I get home next week

ruby spear Sep 10, 2019, 2:05 PM

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@thick maple Please keep your questions to a single channel so people don't waste time answering in both.

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Benz, what specs you running?

thick maple Sep 10, 2019, 2:06 PM

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my whole pc is freezing

barren knot Sep 10, 2019, 2:07 PM

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7700k@5ghz, 1080ti and 16gb ddr4 3466mhz

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:07 PM

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oh, very nice!

barren knot Sep 10, 2019, 2:08 PM

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A gpu upgrade would probably be enough, since I have no issues with CPU bottleneck yet

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Also, Bloodshot. Although the nvidia driver update doesn't apply to you I do believe AMD launched a driver some what recently that covered Gears 5. Have you installed that?

thick maple Sep 10, 2019, 2:08 PM

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@ruby spear i can get answers on both channels so why the hell not

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@smoky flame i just got the update installing rn

ruby spear Sep 10, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Because it wastes people's time. They may not see answers in one channel, then take time to provide answers in another that you already have. So one channel only.

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Preferably #233805809346150400

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:10 PM

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nah, Benz. 1080 Ti is awesome. I have one too. Couldn't be happier tbh

plucky marsh Sep 10, 2019, 2:10 PM

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1080Ti is what I want to have haha

barren knot Sep 10, 2019, 2:10 PM

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It's a great card yes. I do need to turn down settings when gaming on the TV though 😂

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:11 PM

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1080 Ti Club 😎

barren knot Sep 10, 2019, 2:11 PM

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But there's no good successor to it at a reasonable price point

thick maple Sep 10, 2019, 2:11 PM

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im thinking of upgrading to 1660ti

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:11 PM

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what you got just now Bloodshot?

thick maple Sep 10, 2019, 2:11 PM

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i have my old 570 rn

plucky marsh Sep 10, 2019, 2:12 PM

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I have a laptop so no upgrading for me

thick maple Sep 10, 2019, 2:12 PM

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it runs great but some games are starting to feel demanding

barren knot Sep 10, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Maybe you can get a vega64, I've seen those sell for dirt cheap here in Germany

thick maple Sep 10, 2019, 2:14 PM

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lets see how my budget looks in a few months i might get something else but im really liking the 1660

barren knot Sep 10, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Haven't followed the gpu market that much recently, is the 1660 about 1070 performance wise?

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:16 PM

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if your budget will allow for it I'd recommend sticking with AMD and getting an RX 5700XT

plucky marsh Sep 10, 2019, 2:21 PM

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Whats the benefits of sticking with amd?

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I don’t know enough about computers to know 😅

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:26 PM

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AMD being more budget/mid range minded they are pretty good value and give some great performance for said value while Nvidia are more suited to the high end/enthusiast market (even though they too have budget and mid range cards)

thick maple Sep 10, 2019, 2:36 PM

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i built my first pc with an amd card because of my budget

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amd is Brilliant

barren knot Sep 10, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Ive had several amd cards

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ATI rage 128, 9600pro, HD4870, hd7970, R9 390, R9 Fury

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:40 PM

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only GPUs I've had since I built my PC was nvidia. 980 Ti and now 1080 Ti. Would have upgraded to the 2080 Ti but that cost way more than I had hoped it would 😦

barren knot Sep 10, 2019, 2:41 PM

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From Nvidia I've had the mx440, 7950gt, gt750 and 1080ti

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Yeah 4 digits on a gpu is insane

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1200€ or something the last time I checked

warm crater Sep 10, 2019, 2:42 PM

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thats expensive

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:44 PM

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expensive but very powerful and has real time ray tracing. Probably most of the price hike was because of RTX and the addition of 11GB GDDR6

warm crater Sep 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

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They must be extremely powerful for a price like 1200€.

barren knot Sep 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

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I'll gladly take it without rtx for half the price lol

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

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same

barren knot Sep 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

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It's about 30% faster than a 1080ti so not worth it for me

warm crater Sep 10, 2019, 2:46 PM

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I'd gladly take a decent gpu

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

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unfortunately 1080 Ti to 2080 Ti wasn't quite as big a leap in general performance as it was previous 80 Ti GPUs. 980 Ti to 1080 Ti was great, 40%+ greater performance and comparing launch prices only £50 a difference

warm crater Sep 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Yeah.

thick maple Sep 10, 2019, 3:03 PM

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i installed the new amd driver now my pc restarts while running gears 🤣

smoky flame Sep 10, 2019, 4:35 PM

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must be something up with your hardware, Bloodshot. Conflicts or something to have a game restart like that 😦

autumn tartan Sep 11, 2019, 3:56 AM

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epic

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 4:42 AM

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@thorny cypress @ruby spear SPEAKING of PC building https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/31/overclocking-intel-28-core-process-6ghz-xeon-w-3175x/?guccounter=1

Engadget

Pushing a 28-core CPU to its limits: 6GHz and beyond

We pushed a rare 28-core Intel CPU to 6.1GHz. Pass the liquid nitrogen.

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This is what enthusiast has become

thorny cypress Sep 12, 2019, 4:43 AM

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haha

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 4:43 AM

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What a time to be alive

ruby spear Sep 12, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Obligatory 'Can it run Crysis?'

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 4:43 AM

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“But Can it Run Doom?”

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Tempting

smoky flame Sep 12, 2019, 4:45 AM

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liquid nitrogen overclocking looks scary

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happy with my 6700K and its 4.2GHz turbo boost clock speed across all 4 cores and 8 threads

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 7:31 AM

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Name something i could use to hold down my Q button

ruby spear Sep 12, 2019, 7:31 AM

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A finger

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 7:31 AM

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But ill need to be afk

ruby spear Sep 12, 2019, 7:31 AM

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A long finger?

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 7:31 AM

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Away from the keyboard.

ruby spear Sep 12, 2019, 7:32 AM

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I know what it means. You didn't say how far away 😉

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Far away

ruby spear Sep 12, 2019, 7:33 AM

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It depends on your keyboard and the shape/style and keys. You could use an elastic band with something underneath on the key, or just something heavy pressing the key down.

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Ok thank you

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 8:33 AM

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Can’t you just reprogram it to toggle the key?

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 9:08 AM

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No

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I mean, you technically can

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I cant.

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you definitely can

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Someone can i cant.

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autohotkey

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And if its xbox?

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why do you need to constantly hold down a key on xbox

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a game

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this is also the PC Gaming channel

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for PC Gaming

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Ik i use a keyboard and mouse with it

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xbox is not PC

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if it's a PC you can use autohotkey

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Exactly

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So i cant.

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then why are you asking here?

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again, this is the PC gaming channel

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there isnt a xbox one is there

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#233805809346150400

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could ask there for either and specify what system

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thats support.

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it's community support

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for players helping players

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which is what you're asking

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this is PC channel for talking about Windows and PC gaming

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Ok then im sorry.

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to answer you

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there is definitely no way to hold a key or macro on xbox

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without physically pressing it

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the closest thing is setting something on the key

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which can damage the keyboard over time

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so not recommended

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Ok.

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another alternative is to not AFK-farm, but depending on what it is it's understandable.

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what use are you trying to hold the key for?

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Just to grind stats or levels for a game

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sounds about right

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is it bound as a movement key?

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no.

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there's not really much you can do then, you'll just have to set something on it

ruby spear Sep 12, 2019, 9:20 AM

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It's probably easier rubber banding a button on an Xbox controller than it is a keyboard key, depending on the keyboard and key you want to keep pressed.

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Ok thank you.

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that's what I was going to suggest, but didn't know how effective rubber banding buttons were

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IfIt can mess up the controller though

ruby spear Sep 12, 2019, 9:22 AM

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I've done it a bunch of times and never had any issues. If you were banding sticks, that could cause damage, but buttons should be fine as long as you're not forcing it down super hard.

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 9:23 AM

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i didYeah i did it with my stick

ruby spear Sep 12, 2019, 9:23 AM

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I wrapped a band semi-loosely around the controller, then put a USB stick between the band and button to lightly press it down.

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Banding sticks is more likely to lead to damage, though.

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 9:28 AM

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Ok ty

barren knot Sep 12, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Dell S2719dgf Monitor was on sale for around 300€, so I decided to pull the trigger and upgrade my PC monitor to 1440p

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Let's see if it's any good

full flint Sep 12, 2019, 7:43 PM

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it was terrible

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.......

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Why is there a pc gaming channel in a xbox server

hot seal Sep 12, 2019, 7:57 PM

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think about it

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hint :- Microsoft

dusty vector Sep 12, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Because there are Xbox features and games on PC

brave sail Sep 12, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Does anyone have an extra modern warfare beta key on PC?

thorny cypress Sep 12, 2019, 8:45 PM

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💵 13. No buying or selling items on the server. Do not ask for codes or freebies either.

sand basin Sep 12, 2019, 10:02 PM

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htc vive or rift cv1 ? tell me why ? and why not

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i think vive for more games

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cv1 is alot cheaper than vive tho so im thinking just the get cv1 due to me really wanting it or truck sim bus sim and city driving sim and the smacky block game with the music

ruby spear Sep 12, 2019, 10:40 PM

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I'd say Rift S over the CV1, considering the CV1 was the first commercial release of the Rift and has now been superseded by the S.

But as for Rift vs Vive, I couldn't say as I've only used the Vive for an hour or so.

full flint Sep 13, 2019, 12:01 AM

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honestly if you can afford the index I'd go with that because higher refresh rate and resolution as well as cambered lenses so you don't get disoriented or headaches @sand basin

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even if it requires a bit of extra saving

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you can very easily see the pixel count on the other two

ruby spear Sep 13, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Alternatively, if money is a concern, you could go with an Oculus Quest.
Get the benefits of a wire free VR experience, plus streaming from PC to Quest to play Steam VR games.

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If Euro Truck and Bus Sim are games you're focused on, then a top end headset isn't a priority and Beat Saber is available natively on Quest

full flint Sep 13, 2019, 12:03 AM

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yeah

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Elite Dangerous, Skyrim/Fallout, etc those are ones that it's good to have a higher resolution and framerate

ruby spear Sep 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Elite works fine streaming to Quest. I've played it a bunch of times with no issues.

full flint Sep 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

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ah. I know Star Cit has support too, but the minority play that lol

sand basin Sep 13, 2019, 1:07 AM

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thanks guys i kinda bought a htc vive 20 mins after posting this lol for 316£ prob over paid a little but oh well i seen some in same condition go for 390 so you know ..index is way out the price range i wanna go with tbo ..never heard of the quest untill now ..tbf ill play alot more than what i said about as ive seen you can sub to viveport

vocal drum Sep 13, 2019, 1:58 AM

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How does streaming xbox onto Windows 10 work?

ruby spear Sep 13, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Plenty of guides to show how it works that you can search for.
https://support.xbox.com/en-GB/games/game-setup/how-to-use-game-streaming

How to use game streaming in the Xbox Console Companion app on Win...

Learn about game streaming in the Xbox Console Companion app on Windows 10.

vocal drum Sep 13, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Lets say someone is already playing on the xbox? Can I still stream it onto my computer?

ruby spear Sep 13, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Yes, but you would only see what they are playing

vocal drum Sep 13, 2019, 2:01 AM

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so it can't be separate?

ruby spear Sep 13, 2019, 2:01 AM

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No, of course not.

vocal drum Sep 13, 2019, 2:01 AM

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just wondering

ruby spear Sep 13, 2019, 2:02 AM

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The console can't handle two different profiles playing two different games at the same time. You're just streaming the display and switching the input (although that's optional).

vocal drum Sep 13, 2019, 2:03 AM

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What about gamepass? Is that its own thing?

ruby spear Sep 13, 2019, 2:03 AM

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In what context are you asking?

vocal drum Sep 13, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Like lets say im playing Gamepass on PC. Can someone still use the xbox?

ruby spear Sep 13, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Yes, because PC is separate.

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But also they should be using their own account

full flint Sep 13, 2019, 2:05 AM

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it can only stream the account that's signed into the app

vocal drum Sep 13, 2019, 2:05 AM

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ok

full flint Sep 13, 2019, 2:06 AM

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if another account is signed into the xbox, it cannot stream

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that being said

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you can actually use it for splitscreen play

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make sure both accounts are signed in and it will detect the console companion app and prompt to press what specific button to sign in to add to the roster

dusty vector Sep 13, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Once you're connected to the stream you should be able to change whoever is signed in. It just needs to be you signed in at connection time.

full flint Sep 13, 2019, 3:47 AM

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oh, really?

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neat.

full flint Sep 13, 2019, 10:27 AM

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What's the point of this channel in the Xbox discord

ruby spear Sep 13, 2019, 10:28 AM

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Gaming is gaming. Also, there are plenty of Microsoft Studios games on PC, as well as third-party games with Xbox Live integration.

smoky flame Sep 13, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Possible PC upgrade I'm doing in October https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4yk2QZ

dusty vector Sep 13, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Also PC Game Pass is a whole thing

barren knot Sep 13, 2019, 6:48 PM

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I'd personally go for a midrange 150 bucks motherboard and use the saved 150 for a more significant upgrade

brittle loom Sep 14, 2019, 1:08 AM

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What games is everyone playing rn

ruby spear Sep 14, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Plants vs Zombies: Battle for Neighborville

smoky flame Sep 14, 2019, 1:18 AM

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was playing some Division 2. Been hooked to that game lately

hot seal Sep 14, 2019, 1:18 AM

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was playing Gears 5 with my Son earlier. looks like we got a whole weekend of it aswell

smoky flame Sep 14, 2019, 1:22 AM

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oh and btw, Benz. Just noticed your message (over 5 hours late, lol) and yeah I could do that. Though I didn't see what the cheapest AM4 X570 motherboard with wifi was. Guess I can check just now though

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This appears to be the cheapest X570 motherboard with wifi right now https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/gwPgXL/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi

barren knot Sep 14, 2019, 2:02 AM

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You can just get an wifi card per pci

smoky flame Sep 14, 2019, 2:08 AM

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hmm, I'll have to check if there are wifi cards that could support AC (wifi 5) and AX (wifi 6) standards. Really don't want to compromise

eager cypress Sep 14, 2019, 2:58 AM

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anyone here

barren knot Sep 14, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Maybe

eager cypress Sep 14, 2019, 3:07 AM

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i just need help with this " so gears of war 5 wont install on my pc.. i look why.. says i need to update windows.. i did this.. an yet it saying the same thing as it did befor the update..

ruby spear Sep 14, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Stop asking the question in multiple channels

smoky flame Sep 14, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Troy, you say you've updated windows. What version are you on? There may be further updates you have to do

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for comparison, my PC is on version 1903, OS build 18362.356

full flint Sep 14, 2019, 3:19 AM

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you HAVE to have the xbox app on windows 10 version 1903

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weird. Gears 5 no longer displays as using my GPU

smoky flame Sep 14, 2019, 3:53 AM

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what do you mean about the GPU?

full flint Sep 14, 2019, 3:59 AM

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http://puu.sh/EgYMr/e9f21f9671.png

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been using 0 gpu across my system for this whole horde match

smoky flame Sep 14, 2019, 4:05 AM

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I'm using the benchmark and noticing the same. Got MSI Afterburner running though. 2% GPU usage showing through task Manager yet MSI Afterburner is reporting much higher 42%+

full flint Sep 14, 2019, 4:07 AM

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I've afterburner running as well

smoky flame Sep 14, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Surprised Gears 5 doesn't use a whole lot of ram or vram even at maxed settings. (though I am gaming at 1080p) Thought with DirectX 12 and ultra HD textures it would have ate away at both but nope

next citrus Sep 14, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Anyone else getting error 0x80D05011 while trying to update gears 5?

full flint Sep 14, 2019, 7:25 AM

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have you ran the update troubleshooter?

next citrus Sep 14, 2019, 7:34 AM

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nope? I did the powershell stuff the support site said to try.

full flint Sep 14, 2019, 11:07 AM

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yeah same some games use 0% of gpu @full flint

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for me*

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it may be a bug but idk

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very weird bug

full flint Sep 14, 2019, 4:39 PM

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oh my, I found a reputable seller for the elusive i9-9990XE

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👀

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14-core 5GHz glory

smoky flame Sep 14, 2019, 4:55 PM

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that was an auctioned CPU right?

full flint Sep 14, 2019, 4:56 PM

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yes

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small-quantity production due to the nature of the processor

smoky flame Sep 14, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Well, just had my first crash on Gears 5. Think it reset all the settings I had going too 😦

dire meteor Sep 16, 2019, 7:43 AM

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How is Gears 5 ? iv heard really good things , and really bad things.

echo dew Sep 16, 2019, 8:43 AM

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dm me for invite to op factions sever season two starting in one week on minecraft java

hot seal Sep 16, 2019, 5:33 PM

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only way you getting an idea is by trying them for yourself, I have been playing Gears 5 mostly with my Son and have had tons of fun with it.

fierce vector Sep 16, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Will all games be play anywhere titles? Or all xbox game pass games will be xbox game pass pc titles?

dire meteor Sep 16, 2019, 8:00 PM

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can you reword that plz ?

hot seal Sep 16, 2019, 8:02 PM

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only Microsoft games are Play Anywhere titles... Xbox and PC games are different

plucky marsh Sep 17, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Can anyone recommend a nice weighted wireless gaming mouse? Currently looking at the g502 which seems good, but if anyone else has any other recommendations I'll take a look 🙂

barren knot Sep 17, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Have the G502 and can recommend

plucky marsh Sep 17, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Thanks, will probably just grab that then! 🙂

terse coral Sep 18, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Wireless mouses are gross

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Wireless mice aren’t any different than cables mice except the need to charge them occasionally

terse coral Sep 18, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Slower response times

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Feels like that to me anyways

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 3:10 AM

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nope

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decent wireless mice all have the same latency times as wired

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if it's running slower then there's something wrong with settings/drivers

terse coral Sep 18, 2019, 3:12 AM

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All about personal preference at that point then, huh?

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 3:13 AM

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yep

smoky flame Sep 18, 2019, 4:08 AM

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I thought wireless has latency? There's no way it can match wired "virtually zero latency"

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 4:08 AM

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wired has roughly 1-3ms

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wireless can have the same

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if your monitor/display has another 3-4 it becomes more noticeable

smoky flame Sep 18, 2019, 4:11 AM

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hmm, that is interesting to know. Here I thought wireless was always significantly worse - talking like 10ms+ which sure, isn't a lot but compared to wired is already 10 times worse or more

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 4:11 AM

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lower quality mice have higher latency

smoky flame Sep 18, 2019, 4:12 AM

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may consider going wireless for keyboard and mouse soon then. Never thought I'd say that...

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 4:12 AM

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just look into models and find a fit.

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and yeah

smoky flame Sep 18, 2019, 4:14 AM

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I'm almost as wired as wired can be. Besides using an S10+ (wireless) and wifi on that, my TV and PC everything else is wired

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Logitech G502 is a 1ms mouse

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https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g502-hero-gaming-mouse.html

Logitech G502 HERO High Performance Gaming Mouse

Logitech G502 HERO high performance gaming mouse. Featuring HERO, our best sensor, 11 programmable buttons, LIGHTSYNC RGB technology & tunable weight.

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that's the hero model

smoky flame Sep 18, 2019, 4:14 AM

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ahh yeah, the hero sensor. Heard a lot about it

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 4:15 AM

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https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice.html?filters=lightspeed-wireless here's their low-latency wireless lineup though

Gaming Mice, Wireless Gaming Mice, Mac & PC, MOBA & FPS Gaming Mou...

Logitech G professional gaming mice are engineered to compete. MOBA gaming mouse, Ultra-fast FPS gaming mouse, tunable gaming mouse, and many more gaming mice.

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the base G502 has a Hero Sensor as well

smoky flame Sep 18, 2019, 4:16 AM

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tbh I'm not going with Logitech for my next keyboard and mouse. Have their wired Pro series currently and while I do love them I've had a "change in direction"

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 4:16 AM

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I was just posting examples from the earlier discussion

smoky flame Sep 18, 2019, 4:19 AM

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may yet reconsider. Everything is up in the air at the moment. Finding out wireless latency isn't as bad as I was told has certainly surprised me considering wireless and latency usually come together

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Something I look forward to seeing. Intel's next CPUs. Hopefully 10nm and more powerful than the 9900K. Rumoured Q1 2020 launch for 10th gen desktop CPUs

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 4:32 AM

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x86 is going to cap out soon

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there's only so small you can make a processor

smoky flame Sep 18, 2019, 4:38 AM

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yup, heard that the fabrication process is struggling at 3nm just now and that they may soon (from 2022 was a figure) have to look at new materials to have them advance past that and into new territory, whatever comes after nm (nanometres)

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 4:39 AM

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it's getting too expensive to make them smaller

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there's also the physical bottleneck limitations that x86 as an architecture has, which is what led me to start looking into ARM, and now that I have I've become enlightened

smoky flame Sep 18, 2019, 4:41 AM

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I wonder if the same applies to GPUs too as they pack a whole lot more cores than a CPU does

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one thing I am aware of that AMD, nvidia and Intel are looking into is GPU chiplets. Similar to what AMD do with Ryzen. Might be one way towards even more powerful GPUs soon

full flint Sep 18, 2019, 4:49 AM

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GPU's are a bit different

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they likely wont reach a peak anytime soon due to constant memory upgrades

hot seal Sep 18, 2019, 10:16 PM

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I would suggest you sticking with a channel so this doesnt get confusing, you already posted in Game Pass

fossil shale Sep 19, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Yay, Shadow Warrior 2 is finally up on the app

fossil shale Sep 20, 2019, 4:21 AM

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And they didn't include multiplayer, well that's disappointing.

full flint Sep 20, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Highly recommend the G pro wireless

plucky marsh Sep 20, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Ooh ok thanks, will look at it 😄

full flint Sep 21, 2019, 2:22 PM

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can anyone help me?

full flint Sep 21, 2019, 3:28 PM

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That depends on what you need help with

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Also try #233805809346150400

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 6:56 AM

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i love talking about pc

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that is all

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 6:59 AM

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same here. News on new stuff seems a bit dry just now. Though AMD delayed the launch of their Ryzen 9 3950X to November and are also planning on launching 3rd generation Threadripper in November. More exciting time for AMD ahead I can imagine

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 6:59 AM

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cant wait for that to be $2000

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 6:59 AM

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what?

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 6:59 AM

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the threadripper

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:00 AM

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$2000 would be a bargain though really, at least when you compare what AMD offer to Intel's HEDT range

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 7:00 AM

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hopefully this will actually be able to do x264 slower or even veryslow without getting encode overload

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stupid processors need to get better asap

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:01 AM

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you have Threadripper yourself?

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 7:01 AM

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no. but i've done extensive research on them

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(and basically every other cpu but thats beside the point)

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i almost bought a 1920x earlier today but decided against

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didn't feel like getting an obsolete $250 motherboard

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:03 AM

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oh wow so you really know your stuff. That's cool. I love tech but don't research into a lot of it too much. Mainly all for performance gains

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What I do know, if I want what could be considered the current "pinnacle" of pure PC gaming performance I will want to get myself either a 9700K or 9900K from Intel and a 2080 TI from Nvidia

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 7:30 AM

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the 2080ti is the important part

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i have an i7-8700k and an ASUS 2080ti and it does everything just as well. I currently game at 1080p240

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right now im planning out a second pc to be my dedicated streaming pc, so i can stream and record at virtually loseless without impacting my FPS

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I spent almost 3k on my rig so im going with something much cheaper

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trying to find the list

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ryzen 2700x
32gb DDR4 3600mhz
and currently deciding on a graphics card that i may buy. i don't know if you can record through an Elgato HD60 pro and utilize it at the same time through streamlabs so i still have to do some more research

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if i cant, ill get a 2060 that i can offload the recording through NVENC

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Turing (RTX 2000 series) NVENC looks much much better than Pascal (GTX 1000 series) NVENC so its important that i dont cheap out

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wether you understand any of this i dont know, but i feel much better putting it down on paper

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or screen i guess

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:42 AM

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I thought Nvidia defeated the whole point of a second streaming PC with that NVENC stuff? That 2080 Ti is a beast and yeah I understand it well 🙂

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 7:42 AM

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yes and no

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you wont be able to game+record+stream at professional quality. Your system will be hit super hard by the 30,000 or however high bitrate required to record

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especially if you play at 240fps

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also

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x264 medium and lower looks better than NVENC, no matter what settings you turn up on NVENC, thats why streamers put super expensive 16 core CPUS in their streaming PCs

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:46 AM

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240fps is crazy. I game at 1080p, 144fps. Though on some games I have to limit fps or I fear my 6700K reaches 100% usage

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on our end we can make use of the full 60+ fps but so far I'm not aware of any service that offers viewers to watch a stream beyond 60fps

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 7:48 AM

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100%? are you running integrated graphics?

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:49 AM

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no, got a 1080 Ti though I have seen my CPU hit 100% usage on a few games. I play at maxed settings, likely why

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 7:49 AM

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what CPU?

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:50 AM

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6700K as I said above

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 7:50 AM

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yikes

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yeah quad cores wont cut it anymore lol

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:51 AM

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I know, apparently they are the least any recommends. Less than 4 cores and 8 threads (or 4/4) and that gamer is going to have a bad time with the newer titles

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 7:51 AM

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also dont get the 9700k

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9700k is 8 core 8 thread, while the 9900k is 8 core 16 thread

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:53 AM

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I'm well aware of that but going by benchmarks surprisingly when it comes to those CPUs they can compete with each other

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some games a 9700K will just come out ahead, others the expected winner, 9900K emerges on top

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 7:54 AM

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thats because of the high clock

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i think its like 4.9ghz

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but if your game runs on 6-8 of those threads, you wont have room for anything else

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:55 AM

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I'm going for a pure gaming setup so don't have to worry about streaming or that

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 7:56 AM

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i can't stop you but id highly recommend more threads

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the 9700k will become too little too fast

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you might need a new one in 2 years

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pretty much

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a lot of games are utilizing multithreaded processing now

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:57 AM

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oh don't worry, I will be going for the 9900K though I am considering waiting for Intel to launch their 10th gen desktop CPUs. 10900K I'll be eying up

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 7:58 AM

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just remember that those are new sockets

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aka new motherboards on top of that

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 7:58 AM

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yup 👍

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:02 AM

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there'll also likely be new memory

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:02 AM

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Just hope Intel's 10th gen is 10nm and will offer even more performance. They may be behind AMD in CPU process size but Intel's 14nm++ still holds the performance crown over 7nm

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:02 AM

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intel's been waiting on DDR5 to release to DIMM before they do 10th gen

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so you'll end up paying a premium because new memory type

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F

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:03 AM

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I doubt we'll see DDR5 memory yet

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:03 AM

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me escaping area 51 with DDR5 6000mhz sticks

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it was originally slated to release Q4 this year

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so we'll see

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:05 AM

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Likely a 2020 thing. 11th gen Intel and 4th gen AMD could make use of DDR5

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:05 AM

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while you may only keep tabs on the gaming market, I keep tabs on enthusiast and industry market

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intel already said they were waiting to see on DDR5 for 10th

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im still waiting for lenovo to drop their y2jgq 1440p240 monitor. im assuming they're waiting for display port 2.0

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:07 AM

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I keep tabs on the gaming market at the enthusiast end. Started off with what was a top end gaming PC and my next upgrade will be much the same. 1080p gaming or not. I just want the most powerful gaming PC one can get before it get ridiculous in terms of price

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:08 AM

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yeah, memory will hit industry/enthusiast first

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its already ridiculous

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if you really want the most powerful hands down, that no other has

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you need the 9990XE

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:09 AM

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yeah none of that HEDT stuff lol

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:09 AM

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thats not the greatest for gaming though

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it's fine for gaming

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it's just not easy to obtain

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thats like heavy workload

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and the difference is negligible

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200MHz over the 9980XE

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plus i guarantee you wont get all 16 cores at 5ghz

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you will

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it's meant for data crunching

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:09 AM

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I'll be happy once I upgrade, whatever I decide to do 🙂

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:10 AM

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each core's unlocked

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unless you meant while gaming

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im not putting a fisson plant in my rig

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no thank you

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id say best shot is 9900, custom loop it, and clock it as high as possible

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Plan to get around 4-5 years out of my CPU again before upgrading so it best hold well. GPU. Seems every 2 years a new 80 Ti card launches

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:11 AM

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some dude got my i7 8700k to a 7.4ghz

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that number scares me

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:11 AM

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oh wow 😮

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:12 AM

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like if your house has a power fluctuation you're toast. no super fancy extention strip is gonna save that thing from overvolting itself

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:13 AM

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the PCs we are talking about are as good as mini nuclear reactors, hehe

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:14 AM

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oh, I should probably add that custom cooling loop to the build I'm working on

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shame it doesn't even allow me to add the 9990XE, despite the fact that the loop is built for it >:T

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:16 AM

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I'm not touching custom loop. Very expensive and maintenance is a drag. Closest I'll go is an all in one cooler for both CPU and GPU

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:16 AM

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I just use a CPU liquid cooler and a really big case for my GPU

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My 3 GPU fans are set to run slightly faster under light use and that’s about it

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I have a big Corsair 750D airflow

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:18 AM

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that was the case I almost bought over 3 years ago until I seen the 400C. Pretty neat case

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:18 AM

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I’m switching to the cougar panzer max. Buying 2 of them for swapping the Corsair and building the streaming pc

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1000D for me

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Yeah alright we get it you work for spaceX

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LOL

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:20 AM

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😄

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:20 AM

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I'm pulling out all the stops on this build

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still haven't added on the cooling loop, the cables, any extra RGB I add on

📎 ss_2019-09-22_at_04.21.00.png

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and there's one other thing

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forgot what it was

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:22 AM

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omg 😱

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:22 AM

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oh don't worry, 1/3 of that price is just the storage

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What

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what

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There’s 14tb drives on pcpartpicker for $500 a piece

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:23 AM

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lucky if my PC (once upgraded) will cost even a 10th of that

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:23 AM

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this isn't your grandmother's gaming rig 😎

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there's some serious throughput going on it

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Strange

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:24 AM

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there is way I can get both a 9900K and 2080 Ti cheaper than paying full retail

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:24 AM

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6x 4TB SATA, 1x 2TB M.2, and 1x 1.5TB PCI-E

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SS 860 Pro, SS 970 Evo Plus, and It Optane 905P respectively

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there's still a U.2 slot on the motherboard I'll need to fill as well

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Excessive? Absolutely.
Necessary? Yes

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For what

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what else is going to handle all that RED Footage and MOCAP

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:27 AM

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MOCAP?

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Motion capture

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Motion Capture

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:27 AM

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oh

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:27 AM

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NVLINK QUADRO RTX8000 x2

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or RTX titan

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Go quadro

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either will work 🤔

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yeah...thinking quadro

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Titan is the 2000 and quadro bridge

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:28 AM

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Quadro more powerful and likely suits your expectations more

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:28 AM

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You’ll want quadro

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only available from PNY

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whyyyyyyyyyy

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:30 AM

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I'm beginning to wonder why nvidia launch the TItan range of GPUs. What market is it supposed to cater to? Gamers? Way too expensive for most

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:30 AM

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enthusiast gamers

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They’re meant for AI

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TESLA are meant for AI

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they're literally server-racked GPU

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Titan are like the budget do-all

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Games, AI, Workstation, and other power workloads

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Ok well let me step back

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It depends which titan you buy

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that too

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:31 AM

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I'm only talking since nvidia took the "Geforce GTX" off Titan GPUs

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Titan V is Volta while Titan RTX is Turing

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both are good for AI processing

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:32 AM

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Volta was strange

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not a gaming volta GPU in sight. I think Volta could have been great for a gaming GPU, going by the Titan V's specs at least

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:34 AM

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I think Turing is the best route for gaming

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for now, yeah

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Especially with all the ray tracing stuff

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:35 AM

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yup, ray tracing is the future. I cannot wait to see how it improves next few GPU generations

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:36 AM

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ray-tracing is the future, but we're still far from done

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liquid/fluid simulations are the next step after, and then particle-based terrain after that

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fluid includes fire and air, just like their scientific classifications

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fire should be next though

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:37 AM

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might as well class all that under hyper-realistic graphics

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:37 AM

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the hell do you think ray-tracing is lol

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I’m the kind of guy that turns shadows off for advantage so I don’t care too much

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:38 AM

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yeah but combining all that together, unless you mean to say what you mentioned is all under the "ray tracing" roof?

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:38 AM

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no

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ray-tracing is the first step towards that

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both require it

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:39 AM

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I bet ray tracing is still nothing compared to what is ahead. Certainly sounds like it to me

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:39 AM

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only if you're referring to lighting/reflections

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ray-tracing is used for a lot more than just that

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hence the "fire and water both require it" statement

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:40 AM

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graphics in general. Full scale ray tracing and beyond even that

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:40 AM

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full-dive VR 👀

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:42 AM

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is there even anything beyond ray tracing and all the stuff related to it or will this be a long term thing for a while?

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:43 AM

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technically yes

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Just wait till quantum computing takes off

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after Ray-tracing localized neural network processing, and then there's more after that as well

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:45 AM

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one thing, I claim to love tech but I have yet to see how a CPU or GPU actually works to a level their functions could be seen, if that is even humanly possible

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something tells me that is molecular level stuff though

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:47 AM

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It’s just transistors

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Billions of them

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they function on a subatomic level

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flow of electrons

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:50 AM

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could that actually be seen though? Really does fascinate me how they work. How something so small (die size, process size and transistors) can do so much so fast and is created by us humans

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:52 AM

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scientists track electrons all the time, as far as naked eye? that's a bit harder

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you can't see electrons with the naked eye

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 8:56 AM

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I thought that. Amazes me even further how far computing has come. From the very first computer that would take up a room that would now house supercomputers and servers to quantum computing that I have almost no clue on but I guess as it evolves it too will likely go through a similar scale

full flint Sep 22, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Hey, I'm looking to buy a shooting/racing/tycoon/simulatar game for PC any recommendations?

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 9:02 AM

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right, time for me to go play some games. Would love to keep chatting, as I could talk all day about tech but I want to game 😄

smoky flame Sep 22, 2019, 10:01 AM

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disabled the 60fps cap on Borderlands 3. Seems CPU usage on that game isn't as bad as I thought. 93fps average at 1080p, maxed settings. Roughly an hour gaming

lean finch Sep 24, 2019, 6:01 PM

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for anyone interested Destiny pre-load is live on steam

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full flint Sep 24, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Is that download for the whole shadowkeep expansion + extra content or just the base game?

full flint Sep 24, 2019, 7:34 PM

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It's also the expansion

lean finch Sep 24, 2019, 7:37 PM

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yeah what Bis said. seems to be both base and shadowkeep

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smoky flame Sep 24, 2019, 8:04 PM

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so I don't need Destiny 2 installed through Battle.net anymore?

lean finch Sep 24, 2019, 8:10 PM

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unless you plan on playing it between now and next Tuesday you can uninstall

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steam version doesn't unlock until next tuesday

smoky flame Sep 24, 2019, 8:11 PM

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woo! Good bye Battle.net! I'm going to have fun erasing everything related to Battle.net off my computer

full flint Sep 24, 2019, 8:12 PM

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I'm going to have fun erasing you! 😠

plucky marsh Sep 24, 2019, 8:13 PM

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I’ve got CoD MW so can’t remove it 😦

smoky flame Sep 24, 2019, 8:13 PM

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😦

plucky marsh Sep 24, 2019, 8:14 PM

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And I used to play a lot of OW, so that can always make a return

smoky flame Sep 24, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Everything related to Battle.net and Blizzard through folders on my PC is now removed 🙂

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Silly me though more than half way through installing Destiny 2 on Steam went and deleted the files of the new install thinking that Destiny 2 managed to remain after uninstalling both it and Battle.net 🤦

full flint Sep 24, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Add me on Battle.net

plucky marsh Sep 24, 2019, 8:36 PM

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whats your digits fam

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We can all play wow together

lean finch Sep 24, 2019, 8:52 PM

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scratch my previous statement. It wasn't installing shadowkeep

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full flint Sep 24, 2019, 10:28 PM

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@plucky marsh do you actually play WoW?

plucky marsh Sep 24, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Not in the same region as you probably :/

full flint Sep 24, 2019, 10:29 PM

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No and you probably play classic

plucky marsh Sep 24, 2019, 10:30 PM

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I don't play either 😦

full flint Sep 24, 2019, 10:33 PM

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But you just said you did

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Did you lie to me?

plucky marsh Sep 24, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Yes. 😦

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I used to play WoW, but I got bored of it

full flint Sep 24, 2019, 10:49 PM

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I will never forget or forgive this

plucky marsh Sep 24, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Bis will remember that.

full flint Sep 24, 2019, 10:49 PM

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You’re god darn right

clever night Sep 25, 2019, 2:36 AM

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arkham knight DLC avail on epic!

full flint Sep 25, 2019, 7:58 AM

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i bought forza horizon 4 on pc due to microsoft store do i get that game also than on xbox one?

ruby spear Sep 25, 2019, 7:59 AM

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Yes

full flint Sep 25, 2019, 7:59 AM

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nice

smoky flame Sep 25, 2019, 8:07 AM

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you could have got it through the PC game pass

full flint Sep 25, 2019, 9:12 AM

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?

smoky flame Sep 25, 2019, 9:15 AM

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This https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-game-pass/pc-games

full flint Sep 25, 2019, 9:38 AM

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Or gamepass ultimate

full flint Sep 26, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Try using an online search engine like Google or Bigpng

tardy ridge Sep 26, 2019, 10:01 PM

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yh no roms that i can find

full flint Sep 26, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Wait that’s not allowed

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Bad!

tardy ridge Sep 26, 2019, 11:30 PM

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what lol?

ruby spear Sep 26, 2019, 11:31 PM

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No discussion of piracy #rules

native kayak Sep 27, 2019, 12:06 AM

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bob

autumn sluice Sep 27, 2019, 12:24 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/AzureLane/comments/d9jmxc/careful_updating_using_nox_the_second_coming/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Careful Updating / Using Nox: The second coming

Several days ago, a user who by now [deleted the...

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Tldr the emulator nox contains malware. Recommend you uninstall and run your antivirus

full flint Sep 27, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Something related to Android contains malware? Who would’ve thought...

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Google needs to step up their security requirements bigtime

autumn sluice Sep 27, 2019, 7:48 AM

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Its not a Google product?

full flint Sep 27, 2019, 8:03 AM

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nox is an emulation environment for android apk

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it goes hand in hand really.

autumn sluice Sep 27, 2019, 9:59 AM

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Well its the application itself not Android as far as I understand

ruby spear Sep 27, 2019, 10:00 AM

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But malware on Android has been quite prevalent, so Google needs to step up their security in order to combat this.

autumn sluice Sep 27, 2019, 10:55 AM

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Valid

smoky flame Sep 27, 2019, 1:23 PM

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from what I heard Google's Play Protect is about as secure as leaving a car parked with the keys left in the car and the doors unlocked. If true and this is Google we're talking about that is some compromise

autumn sluice Sep 27, 2019, 1:43 PM

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Money>security

smoky flame Sep 27, 2019, 1:51 PM

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yup, far too many huge companies out there taking in all the money and not batting eyes at how secure they are. Compromising on security is the biggest mistake any company can do. Whether it be some small start up or a huge corporate company. Get that security sorted or likely regret it later

full flint Sep 27, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Google and Facebook are the worst companies

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apple may be extraordinarily expensive to a fault, but I'll be a liar if I said they didn't value user-privacy

full flint Sep 27, 2019, 5:01 PM

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With iOS 13 all my passwords are overwritten with things so long that if I lose my keychain I’m toast

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 12:59 PM

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g

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Anybody play roblox🙃

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:24 PM

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@smoky flame

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oh, Sub, you're telling me to get an i5 without iGPU, why do you think i'm rich

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so you're telling me i should spend the same amount of money for an APU, to get a CPU with no GPU

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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just a recommendation, sorry. I'm not aware of how poor or well off others are. None of my business really. After we talked about it the other day I compared how a 3400G and 3600 performed in games and there was quite a difference (and yes, both comparisons were fair as they used the same GPU)

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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and i mean what will i do with an i5 and GPU? i only play on 1080p low and i never touch graphically-needy VR games, the 3400G has almost console level performance, what do i need any more?

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bro if you find someone buying an APU they're not well off, APUs are terrible for anything but budget

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you're not factoring planned obsolescence and technological advancement on games

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sure it's fine now, but consider how often you'll have to upgrade

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that's the most important factor when making a purchase

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not much actually titles haven't really been changing that much in the last few years

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a 2017 Assasin's creed is struggling to run just as much as a 2019 one lmao

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generational turns of consoles influence PC Graphics

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look at games now vs beginning of the current generation

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same with 7th (360/PS3) generation

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Dark the 3400g is capable of running 2019 titles at lowest graphical settings with 1080p resolution

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so it can probably take 2020 titles

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i wouldn't have to upgrade until 2021, which is a lot of time

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yes, but how will it perform in 2021/2022

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:30 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agaU1oHFX_s

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:30 PM

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it's a year

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i can get money until then and get a new APU

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I'm not saying don't. I'm saying factor in actual capabilities as well as upcoming tech shifts

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i can't afford futureproofing PCs but i can gradually upgrade them as time passes

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you ultimately spend the same amount for less

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yeah currently the 3400G is a steal for budget games w/ no money

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I'd always suggest saving for a discrete and dedicated combo over a longer period. it will take longer but last longer with better performance, giving you time to save for an even more powerful single-component upgrade

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DDR5 is supposed to be hitting consumer market within a year

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:33 PM

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keep in mind too the 3400G isn't a Zen 2 processor. It doesn't make use of any advancements found in Zen 2. Ryzen G CPU's are a generation behind technically

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Dark you forgot to factor in that my PC is a 2012 laptop and it is dying very quickly

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hence why i'm going to rush getting the PC as fast as possible

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I used a tablet until I could afford a new computer

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lmao same

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i'm a PC kinda guy, i use my PC several hours each day, i do most of my work on my PC, my PC is where all of my childhood pictures are saved on

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PCs are the most important devices that i have, i use them the most

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and that's why i can't afford losing this laptop and having to wait until i save up for a new upgraded one

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the 3400G fits me and i need to rush as fast as possible before this one dies of age

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also, I'll say this now. next years' games are not going to be as easy on the systems as this years

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it's the last year before the next generation comes out

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this is when devs make a massive jump to start squeezing every bit of performance out of consoles

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that also effects PC games

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again the 3400G would still be able to run those at lowest graphical resolution

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not all of them but most of them

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unless you're playing at a downscaled 480p

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lowest graphics on a 2020 games can get you 30-40 FPS

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that's more thanenough

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don't forget the scope of games coming out next year

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Cyberpunk, Halo, etc

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nah i won't play CyberPunk lmao

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but you'll want to play halo

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and Halo? i won't get the new Halo until i finish the old ones

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i haven'te ven gotten to the end of 5 yet, i haven't played Halo before and i wanna see it since it was so popular

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those are releasing as they're ready

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and Dark keep in mind that after upgrading my PC i do plan on getting an Xbox to get a console-PC setup like all the rich people do

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I'll rephrase.

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so i can play some games that my PC wouldn't

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I don't suggest getting a last-gen APU unless you plan on very rarely playing games on PC

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actually this thing was gonna be used mainly for gaming

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then I would save for a better system and focus on that if it's a major importance

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:39 PM

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exactly what I recommended pretty much

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:39 PM

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focus on a computer before a console, if that's the case

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Assassin's Creed Odyssey: runs great on 1080p low
Apex Legends: runs great on 1080p low
Rise of the Tomb Raider: playable framerates on 1080p low
Overwatch: runs great on 1080p mediun

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Black Ops IIII: runs great on 1080p low

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this is the abilities of a 3400G, it's all i can ask for

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PC generally ignores last-generation settings once it becomes obsolete.

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the "low" of a lot of games recently are early 8th gen settings

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and not late 7th gen

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this will hold true then as well

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idk what that means but those are the benchmarks of these games on the 3400g

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what that means is that those settings are at the beginning of the current generation they come out for

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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16gb ram is being used on that benchmark video I shared btw

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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yeah those games all released a year ago except Black Ops 4

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HELLO PC PEOPLE

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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yo

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PC

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ok

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what are you gonna talk about

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XLR8 would probably say the same thing as well.

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What’s the question

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it's better, and cheaper, to save for a more powerful build

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Ye

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than settle for something lower end and upgrade as necessary

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You’ll just spend time wishing you saved up when you’re forced to play/work at lower settings than you want

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huh

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you could spend about 300$ right now for a CPU and GPU that will be able to handle current year on mid-high settings

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bro i want 1080p low gaming and the Ryzen 3 will deliver that

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yes

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for now

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i will absolutely not be forced to work or play at lower settings

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by the end of 2020 it will be obsolete.

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especially with the new ryzen APU coming out

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yeah by then i can upgrade

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read what i said

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i have 2 entire years, i can save up dollar after dollar

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:45 PM

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not really 2 years

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:45 PM

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end of 2020

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it's not even 1 year

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:45 PM

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ryzen cpus have been launching yearly

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:45 PM

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it's ok i have time

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So wait

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by then you'll end up having to choose between a console and a new APU or GPU/CPU

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which is what you said you weren't planning on doing

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This is gaming at 1080p of integrated graphics?

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probably a new APU

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APU graphics

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yeah

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yes, 1080p lowest graphical settings gaming

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with next year coming up

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Prepare to game at worse than a console

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pretty sure consoles also run on 1080p Low but ok

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no, they don't

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No

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:46 PM

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console are quite a bit more powerful

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Your games are going to look terrible

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so?

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PC games don't have an optimized environment

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I mean terrible

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got objections? i choose for it to look terribl

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it's terrible but it's more than playable lmao

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the display may be 1080p

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but the game will not be 1080p

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resolution downscaling comes into effect

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and you'll end up at 480-640p

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:47 PM

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so you are effectively forcing yourself to a poor PC experience. Stuff like that may cloud your views on PC gaming

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:48 PM

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yes, i don't have money

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the only reason i can even afford this is because i'm selling older devices

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I’d go with a console instead

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Honestly

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I could understand an APU if you only gamed occasionally

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on PC

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but that specific one

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and, what am i playing? latest titles? no, i just wanna play the 2016 Assassin's Creed and not have it run on 10 FPS

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maybe some newer titles from 2018

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but those will run fine

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:48 PM

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agreed, go with a console or save up and go for a better equipped PC

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Ok so what CPU is this?

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Ryzen 3200G

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APU

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no not 3200G, 3400G

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i never said 3200, it's the more upgraded version, the 3400g

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ah, 3400. 200MHz more

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yes

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which means nothing on tech that old

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on some games it actually performs 10 FPS higher than the 3200G

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which is suprising

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:50 PM

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weigh up the price vs performance differences found on the 3200g and 3400g

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:50 PM

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tbh the only games i'm actually playing is TF2, Overwatch and Minecraft, i really don't need a gaming beast. the 3400g is cool enuf

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Oh no no no no no

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and, the 3400g will mark it as the most powerful PC i'd ever use

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😬

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since i've only used outdated Intel Cores my whole life

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i never got to afford a PC as cool as the 3400G

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This is a 4 core 3.7 my dood

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oh yes that's higher than my PC lol

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i'm using 3.4 dual core lmao

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This will not get you 1080p60

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it will, if i tune graphics into lowest possible settings

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Not on anything from 2017 or newer

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even on low it wont

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haha no, it can get 1080p30FPS on lowest graphics on 2018 titles and older, no more than that

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you are underestimating the 3400G

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you get between 30-40 on low, with variable resolution (480-640)

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not full 1080p

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uhh no lmao 30-40 on full 1080p

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note, variable resolution is texture resolution

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If you jump into heat get ready for 15 FPS

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not display resolution

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the window may display at 1080

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more like 20 FPS @full flint

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but the actual LOD is much lower

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pK5YbChCVI

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so this is magic basically?

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thAT IS VARIABLE RESOLUTION

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the texture resolution is not 1080p

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I DON'T GET YOUR OVERCOMPLICATED RESOLUTION STUFF
IT'S 1080P

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then you should make a more informed purchase

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yeah i don't want good looking textures

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i just want a high display resolution

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it's not about textures themselves either

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For starters the game is running in 90% resolution.

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yo that's bette rthan i expected

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That’s 900p

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not 1080p

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it's not that much different is it

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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I'll just step back seeing as I can't add anything meaningful. I tried

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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very much different

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it's just 180p less

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Workload scales exponentially with resolution, not linearly like FPS

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look it's more than 720p, which is the only thing this PC can handle

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so that means
it's a good upgrade

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it's going to visibly display as if it were running at full 720p

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given aspect ratios

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Just read the comments. People saying “it looks almost as good as a console”

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ALSO

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=180nuQJccTA

YouTube

Digital Foundry

Tech Focus - Dynamic Resolution Scaling: A Great Fit For PC Gaming?

Dynamic Resolution Scaling (DRS) started out life smoothing performance on console titles by lowering rendering resolution on the fly. But the technique is c...

▶ Play video

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He’s running it with 16gb of DDR4 3466

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jesus

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that's speedy memory

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and pricy as hell

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8 GB should be enough for any Ryzen APU aslong as it's Dual channel

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you’re not getting close to what he got with 8gb

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Not gonna happen.

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because of the lower capabilities, he's having to use higher memory to compensate

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no way in hell

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i can get 16 GBs actually if i get from more less known brands

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but you don't know much about clock speeds or latency timings

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do you

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meh is 3400 mhz 16 GB not enough

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depends on latency timing

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That’s fine if you plan on overclocking it

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BLCK overclocking is dangerous and can cause the memory to fry itself

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You have to overclock to get to that speed otherwise you’ll be severely disappointed by this CPu

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this CPU is AMD's equivalent of a Core i6

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i5* not i6

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yes, as a CPU

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yes

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not as a GPU

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intel is not known for their iGPU

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GPU wise it's equivalent to a 1030 Ti i think? something like that

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NO

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far from it

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it's as powered a lower range nVidia

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NO NO NO NO NO

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no it's not

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meh, a 980 i guess

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WHAT

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nowhere close

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you people don't know how bad 1030s are lmao

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this is weaker than a console

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GTX 770

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roughly

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not the Ti model

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at best

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if you get the memory to compensate

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i wouldn't go that far but it;s at that zone yes

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Like an Xbox one X will blow this thing out of the water if you don’t attach a GPU to it

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looking at raw video performance benchmarks

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1030s are like crappy for anything other than simple 3D stuff lol

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they're absolute trash GPUs

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btw i must GTG rn

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I’m shocked rn

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Let us help you please

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You are vastly misinformed and wrongly persuaded

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You must got to go?

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You’re going to be severely disappointed if you go through with this

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http://puu.sh/EmyhD/cedd489b7b.png

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jesus christ

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it's rated one of the worst GPU's on UBM

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(for games)

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https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GT-1030-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-3-Ryzen-iGPU/m283726vsm511366

UserBenchmark: AMD RX Vega 3 (Ryzen iGPU) vs Nvidia GT 1030

Based on 50,944 user benchmarks for the AMD RX Vega 3 (Ryzen iGPU) and the Nvidia GT 1030, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 621 GPUs.

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the 1030 is rated leagues above it

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you'd be better off buying a GT 1030 than a anything with RX Vega 3

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in CSGO

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20-ish FPS average

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per tick

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 11:09 PM

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their best plan would be to save up and try to build a powerful PC that at least allow them a solid gaming experience at native 1080p and up to ultra settings. Something $1000 will sort out no bother I'd imagine

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 11:10 PM

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just the prices alone, they'd be better off buying an AMD Ryzen CPU with a 1050Ti

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and be able to play games much higher, faster, and more stable, and it'd last longer

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 11:10 PM

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yup, even that. True

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 11:10 PM

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for roughly the same price

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that, or they'd end up having to spend the same amount on memory as they would on the rest of the build to compensate

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 11:12 PM

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My recommendation was going to be along the lines of a 3600, 16gb ram and a 1660 Ti. Haven't added up prices or even made a mock build but I'd think it would be a neat system

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 11:12 PM

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even a 3400 with a GPU would be fine

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with 8gb.

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 11:14 PM

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I'm not so sure. 3400G and it's older CPU generation is what is holding it back

full flint Sep 28, 2019, 11:14 PM

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just to handle the CPU processes, at a bare minimum

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but yes, I'd agree

smoky flame Sep 28, 2019, 11:21 PM

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anyways, I'm still not 100% sure what I want to do. Got a few ideas. Ranging from buying a crazy pair of headphones, a nice amp and dac or upgrading my PC (mainly the CPU but that will require additional components)

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 8:59 AM

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Buy a 1TB SSD

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 9:27 AM

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an SSD will be part of said PC upgrade. Plan to scrap my HDD and go all SSD

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 9:28 AM

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Ok. I would go for a boot drive and a game drive. HDD only for mass storage...

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 9:29 AM

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Boot drive I have currently is a 250GB SSD so I'm fine on that part but it's not ideal if I wanted to install many games at once. Hence why I'll be going for a 1TB or even 2TB SSD when I get a chance

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 9:34 AM

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The intel 660p I heard is good value

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 9:40 AM

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not sure if I'll go NVMe tbh. Good old 2.5 inch SSD are good enough for me

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 9:41 AM

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Is cheaper than some 2.5 inch ssds I heard...

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 9:43 AM

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yeah, they can be but various problems I'd have to be aware of like certain NVMe SSD may not perform at their best if certain temperatures are met, which if it is one located directly underneath a GPU that NVMe SSD I'd imagine will get quite warm

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 9:50 AM

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That is a PCIe SSD then. I was talking about m.2 Nvme which go on the motherboard itself...

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 9:51 AM

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m.2 NVMe can do that too

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Most slots usually tend to be between PCIe slots 1 and 2 I believe

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 9:54 AM

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Ah okay. I would pick up the crucial mx500 then (1TB or 2TB).

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 9:56 AM

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funny enough that is what I'm looking at. Though I may spend a little more if speeds on competition SSDs are better. Eying up Samsung SSDs tbh

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 10:01 AM

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860 EVO right? I got that as my boot drive

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At times even my mx500 in my laptop boots up faster...

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 10:05 AM

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yup, that's the ones but if the MX500 can load up faster I may just go for that 🙂

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CPU I plan to get is likely an Intel one. Either the 9900K or wait for it's successor, 10900K (or whatever Intel plan on naming their 10th gen desktop CPUs)

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 11:25 AM

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yo i'm back

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no, get the 9900k right now @smoky flame

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it just hit an all time low pricing, it's never been this cheap

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@smoky flame I also got intel rapid storage and the crucial storage executive software

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it's now 400 dollars and something

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@full flint How much is it in UK

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idk

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i'm not even sure how pounds work

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like

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300 pounds? or 200?

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something like that

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I checked it is £400+ on amazon UK

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Scan UK is £499.99

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ah then we probably missed it

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i read it got to a low 300 pounds in 1 day

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i'd pay 499 pounds instead of 900

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900?

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yeah

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i think 1k dollars is 900 pounds

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the pounds is a stronger currency than the dollar

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Getting weaker and US prices do not include tax

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i mean tax can't be that high

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$1000 is supposed to be £813

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oh that means the pound is getting stronger

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Not really

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ok yeah i'd rather pay 499 pounds than 813

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look when the zeros decrease and the prices re less than the dollar that means inflation is decreasing

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In UK for eample the iPhone 11 is £729 and $699. £729 is $896..

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oh wow that's still expensive

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You could probably import the phone from the US and it would be cheaper than buying new in UK...

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PC parts we pay more for too

ruby spear Sep 29, 2019, 11:45 AM

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You're also forgetting that the US price doesn't include sales tax that gets added on at the end.

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UK price includes 20% VAT

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 11:46 AM

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there is a way I can get a 9900K far cheaper than retail. Only risk is I'd be trading in my 6700K against it and well I'd have to be happy that I actually get a working 9900K AND have the other components pretty much ready to go there after. Quite a lot of risk and what ifs involved

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Can get up to £130 store voucher (can only be spent in those stores) from my 6700K and the 9900K costs £410, which I'd then use the store voucher to bring it down to £280 so I could effectively have myself a 9900K for less than what I paid for my 6700K when it was new (£300)

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 11:56 AM

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Which store is this

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 11:57 AM

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CEX

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 11:57 AM

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the hecks is cex

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Used game store

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also sells other electronics

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oh

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I got red dead redemption from there for £4 (Xbox 360). It is a bit like gamestop but prices are better.

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i've never even seen a Gamestop, i've heard of it tho

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also 4 pounds is way too much for a 360 game

ruby spear Sep 29, 2019, 11:59 AM

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They're not always better. If anything is any kind of collectors item, they whack the price right up. Also, all the super cheap copies of 360 games they had, the prices would double or triple the day after they went back compat.

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 12:00 PM

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Some of their games are 50p or £1 though

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 12:00 PM

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tbh I am pretty much relying on CEX method to work if I'm getting myself a 9900K. Really don't fancy buying it retail

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 12:01 PM

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I would rather buy it new. I believe cex only sell used but I am not sure

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 12:01 PM

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Money saved will come in useful later on in the rebuild

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 12:01 PM

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If used maybe a refurb unit or something from ebay

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 12:02 PM

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doubt I'll see anywhere selling a 9900K for as low as I could have it

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Nvm ebay is expensive

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I have an i7 8700 (non k), if I need to upgrade anything it is my GPU (yes I have a 1060 6GB). Thinking of adding a 1TB SSD first though...

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 12:06 PM

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Cheapest 9900K through retail sites (new) is on Aria PC. £461.99. I could be saving around £180 - That £180 could very easily cover ram, motherboard, cooler or storage (or even multiple parts)

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 12:07 PM

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Never bought from there or CeX (online)

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 12:08 PM

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me neither so it's all a huge gamble tbh

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 12:08 PM

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is it worth the risk

smoky flame Sep 29, 2019, 12:09 PM

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for the performance? I'd say yes though I'm very hesitant on taking risks so I could well change my mind

hot seal Sep 29, 2019, 12:10 PM

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only thing I do is games from CEX

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wouldnt trust 2nd hand electronic stuff

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 12:11 PM

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I have not bought used electronics or even used... Only new

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 12:29 PM

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i've only bought used electronics lmao

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only my Xboxes were the only major devices that i got new

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laptops? used, phones? used

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I get my phones and laptops from CurrysPCWorld/carphone warehouse

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Anyone know which GPU is needed to drive the Viewsonic XG350R-C?

full flint Sep 29, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Monitors can be powered by anything

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And it runs both amd and Nvidia syncs so just pick any

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You’ll want one powerful enough to do 1440p ultra wide at 100fps

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 11:15 AM

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I mean for games not for normal stuff... Any examples?

livid brook Sep 30, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Tbh if your looking at paying that for a screen you will already have something capable and wont need to ask

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 11:32 AM

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Fair enough... Looks like I may just jump to 4K on scarlett...

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Not looking for competitive gaming or playing the latest games or anything like that, at least on PC.. The only games that has interested me so far this year is Greedfall, the outer worlds, outward and plants vs zombies: battle for neighbourville. The newesr game I own I believe is kingdom come deliverance, which I got gifted to me...

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 12:17 PM

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oh, neat. I found a PCIm wireless card laying around

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Wireless Xbox Controller: GET

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PCIm?

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PCI Express Mini

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PCI-Em/PCIm

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What it used for?

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uh......accessory cards?

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Wireless, Sound, just depends

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some sound cards are x4 slots, some are M

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 1:27 PM

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Ok

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Me, an intellectual:
big slot little slot

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 4:18 PM

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For £400-£500 am I better off buying a rx 5700xt, 2060 super or Xbox + 4K TV?

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 4:38 PM

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what you got for a CPU?

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 4:39 PM

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i7 8th gen... Not sure exactly but it is not the i7 8700k

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it is a desktop one though

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Here's a 1440p comparison between the 5700 XT and 2060 Super for a rough idea on what to expect performance wise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbi_-08CMN0

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2060 Super will have access to Nvidia's RTX features and DLSS but with RTX enabled on supported titles expect a further hit to in game fps

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 4:46 PM

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One thing is I won’t be playing at ultra detail on PC... I was wondering more if it would be worth going for Nvidia or switching to an AMD GPU, as you also get native freesync support and next gen consoles are rumoured to feature similar hardware... I do not really care for RTX or DLSS though... (If I did I probably would be looking at the 2070 or better)

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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tbh I'd say pick whatever is cheapest of the two. (Just don't buy a blower style GPU, they get hot) Look extensively at benchmarks of games you may play too and see if one really stands out performance wise. As for freesync support going AMD definitely has a big positive as AMD's freesync is cheaper than Nvidia's gsync. Though some freesync monitors do now support Nvidia gsync too

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 4:55 PM

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I know that... The rx 5700xt is cheaper but it would mean uninstalling geforce experience and installin the amd drivers...

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 4:57 PM

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geforce experience isn't really a required program. I found it can cause problems with games and stuff and would actually recommend uninstalling it anyway. AMD drivers I have no experience with so can't say anything on them besides AMD control panel looks a whole lot more modern than Nvidia's does

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 5:00 PM

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I only use nvidia geforce since you can express install drivers, also some other things too... But I turn off dsr, and the optmised game bits I try to ignore

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Currently using a 1060...

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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3gb or 6gb?

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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6

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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ah

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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evga sc though, so no backplate

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Go 2060 super

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AMD GPUs always have some sorta issue with something when games launch

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I agree

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With flight 1 of halo reach on MCC PC, some people couldn’t even play if they had an AMD GPU, it was just a black screen

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I have no trust in AMD GPUs

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Lol, and this game works on a console that uses AMD GPU

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I remember destiny 2 having it’s fair share of AMD patches

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I actually had issues with my 1060 6GB when launching games from my hard drive... It would get to a white screen then hang for a bit then load... Recent drivers and a steam reinstall has fixed it though. Also might have been a problem with the corsair rgb softwaee (before iCue)

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I used to have a 8750m which was switchable graphics, could even run skyrim special edition at 30fps on 900p... (So I do have some experience with amd)

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From what I know the only Destiny 2 patches have been with the Ryzen 3000 series

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I do not see the 2060 super as that much of a upgrade over the 1060 6GB anyway, might just get a ssd (game drive) and wait till cyberpunk 2077 comes out, then upgrade accordingly...

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 5:29 PM

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1060 6GB vs 2060 Super - Used the 8700K though so may have to alter that once you figure out what CPU it is you have. Quite an upgrade at 1080p if you ask me https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/compare/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-super/intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz-vs-intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/ultra/ultra/-vs-

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Wow ultra settings again? I have played older games like bf4 on ultra, dont see the hype

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 5:32 PM

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just using them for an example. I game at maxed settings so that's just how I compare stuff

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 5:32 PM

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I rarely game at max, only on the really old games like Oblivion...

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 5:37 PM

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regardless, even at ultra settings both GPUs you are looking at are capable of 60+ fps (average) at 1080p and 1440p (5700 XT is within 5 FPS of making it viable for 4K gaming!) so they are certainly powerful enough while the 1060 6GB seems to do ok with 1080p but 1440p it is just below 60 fps average

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 5:40 PM

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I am looking for closer to 100fps

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 5:40 PM

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100 fps average?

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2080 Super has you covered for 100+ fps average at 1080p and 1440p and yeah I'm using ultra settings again. Think of it this way, if it gets what you are after in ultra whatever you set it to after you get even more fps https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/gpu/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super/intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/ultra

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 5:44 PM

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not ultra maybe high

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 5:45 PM

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2070 Super may be enough too then. All comes down to the games played in the end

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 5:45 PM

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well the newest game i got is kingdom come deliverance

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but that game i would be fine with 60fps

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I meant for stuff like destiny 2, halo mcc etc

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SteelSeries Apex 7 TKL is a very good keyboard

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Just to let you know

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 6:30 PM

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I already have a ducky one

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 6:54 PM

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I have a ducky one 2 mini

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Ducky stuff is very nice

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only got the first gen one... quite heavy too

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 7:51 PM

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scares me still how demanding Metro Exodus is at maxed settings on PC. 6700K, 16gb ram and a 1080 Ti and I'm seeing fps drop well below 60, caught as low as mid-40's in fps and that (by my high standards) is not playable. Now, I could drop from extreme to ultra but that is said to only give back around 16% performance 😦

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 9:23 PM

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I usually run max textures, max texture filtering, and everything else off

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I play at 240 so I can’t have everything at max

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If it dips to 165 my gsync kicks in and it’s trippy lol

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 9:27 PM

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165 is rather odd. I game at 144hz 1080p. Couldn't imagine 240hz gaming and how smooth it is

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 9:52 PM

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It’s smooth but you don’t get gsync at that high of fps, so there’s occasionally tearing

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It’s 1080p240 with a 1ms response time, and its amazing how it affects my aim

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I don’t miss a shot

smoky flame Sep 30, 2019, 9:53 PM

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oh wow 😮

covert eagle Sep 30, 2019, 10:21 PM

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does anyone have mincrart?

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i mean minecraft

full flint Sep 30, 2019, 10:37 PM

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No, I don't think anyone ever bought that game

covert eagle Sep 30, 2019, 10:57 PM

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ANYONE PLAY MINECRAFT?

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oops caps

ruby spear Sep 30, 2019, 10:58 PM

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Use #587074461770186765 , please

full flint Oct 1, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Finished installing destiny 2 on steam. 80GB... Took 6 hours

smoky flame Oct 1, 2019, 12:43 PM

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I have yet to install Destiny 2 on my brother's PC. Which tbh I'm not looking forward to. It's an ok PC overall but he only has a HDD for storage so everything boots up super slow (takes around 1 minute) and if that wasn't bad enough the wifi on it is rubbish too

full flint Oct 1, 2019, 12:52 PM

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Cant you connect it to ethernet then move it back

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Or is even the wifi itself bad

full flint Oct 1, 2019, 1:29 PM

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isn't Destiny 2 like

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a terrible game

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@smoky flame HDD doesn't really affect games and what not it's just boot up time and OS work

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thinkingchief

ruby spear Oct 1, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Yes it can affect games, because the data still needs to load from the hard drive.

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A slow drive will take longer to load, compared to a faster HDD or an SSD.

full flint Oct 1, 2019, 1:30 PM

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idk i heard like over 200 bad reviews and so many YouTube rants on Destiny 2 @full flint

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Destiny 2 is now independent from activision

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@ruby spear a 7200 RPM HDD will be fine tho

ruby spear Oct 1, 2019, 1:30 PM

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It can still affect the speed of the game compared to an SSD.

full flint Oct 1, 2019, 1:30 PM

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which is something i personally don't like lol @full flint

ruby spear Oct 1, 2019, 1:30 PM

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And no need to ping people with every reply. People can follow context of a conversation.

full flint Oct 1, 2019, 1:30 PM

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i can get why the brother of Sub uses an HDD, probably couldn't afford an SSD when he got ok components

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SSDs are still not cheap

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a 250 GB SSD is priced the same as a 1 TB HDD so i can see why people with budget would rather take an HDD, a game's loading time is a sacrifice that needs to be done to get really high storage

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It seems SSD prices have gone up here, used to be under £100 for 1TB, now costs more...

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wait what i'm not sure it's a good idea to pay for a 1 TB SSD for under 100

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SSDs are really expensive it's probably a low-quality brand

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SSDs are high quality expensive storage drives y'know

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These are MX500s, Intel 660p and so on...

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oh MX500s and Intels are good

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tbh i trust Kingston, Crucial and WD only when it comes to buying storage

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their hard drives and SSDs are top notch quality

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Kingston?

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yes