yeah
#classic
torpid musk
rapid wind
the engineering ones that reflect
also
yeah
tidal charm
it will be very hard
i was there a few times and no one was there
though sometimes a few were
ouch
i got mine free π
guildees
he kinda owes me since im feeding him my transmutes for arcanite
the only thing i bought for now was the 3 brilliant shards
i just dinged 53 so probably gonna get it next day or so
just wish i had more bag space so i can make different sets up easier i guess can be a bit better once im 60
lone bear
is the battle chicken meant to follow?
inner hornet
Hey chaps! I'm so bored of my 35 paladin but enjoy healing!
I wonder. Should I roll a druid? I enjoy druids on retail.
Tauren or Nelf? If I roll Tauren that'll mean long BG queues and no help from my main. Can't decide! (I'm currently on Flamelash)
sand raven
If you're on a pvp server you can't play both factions
inner hornet
I can always roll on another realm for the horde π
near leaf
Full resto druid can be fun to heal with at 60. But leveling is def superior than pally, healing while leveling is boring and easy still, just spam healing touch and put rejuv on tank.
Priest is still the ultimate healing class tho :P
teal kite
How does hps in classic healing work related to the rej tick heals?
vague iris
Is stormshroud usefull for ferals?
lone bear
because in classic it works
vague iris
your caster form got it, if not the question could also be how do you regenerate a resource you don't have
one intended on the version we are playing
we are on 1.2 ? it is fixed in 1.4
people wanted the classic experience i guess
ah my bad
not on the patch we are playing i am afraid
the bug was fixed in 1.4
then it should be fixed i guess
torpid musk
I'm told it should be fixed also
But there's always going to be the #nochanges stupidity thrown in with what should / shouldnt be...
lethal pendant
do enchants on weapons work in cat/bear form?
the bis list on wowhead doesn't list any to use
rapid wind
You want stats on your weapons
pale nest
enchants with proc on attack or +weapon damage do not work in forms
so at the moment the best you can have is probably int or spirit for some extra mana, and agility in later phases when it becomes available
lethal pendant
gotcha ty
rapid wind
Clarifying that, not sure why he didn't include stamina, str, as those will affect your health, your attack power in forms so as feral I try to have all stats favoring str stm agility and then tossing in a bit of spirit/int for mana / mana regen...
molten matrix
is the speed of a weapon important for a feral in classic? 2,4 and 3,8 the same?
dense bronze
Weapon speed doesn't mean anything to feral
molten matrix
so a 3,8 hammer with 16 str and 16 agi is nice?
dense bronze
(or weapon damage for that matter)
its a pure stat stick
haughty siren
Are there any really high level nelf druids?
covert rover
Thereβs lvl 120 nelf druids even. But if you have a question you get far better response if you just ask
But yes thereβs max lvl nelf druids out there
vague iris
Is stormshroud useful for ferals?
willow radish
Are there any good druids streaming classic?
lavish comet
What are feral dps like in classic? I heard they are not good for raiding, is this true? Would I get rejected for raid and dungeon spots if I rolled pure feral dps? Ty in advance.
lone bear
if you went highest damage then no, we arent top
rugged zenith
If that raid still need druid, any druid, you'll get invited. Innervate and bress is strong
lone bear
we are the only ones with an on demand battle res tho, our buff is great, innerv
rugged zenith
Your 5% crit can be decent addition.
lone bear
3*
lavish comet
Ok, but In a 40 man raid is it likely that there will be other Druids with those bress and innervate.. was there a cap on bress per fight in classic? Sorry for so many questions
rugged zenith
no bress limit, but it's 30min cd
lavish comet
Ok cool, Il go for it as I like to play feral only pretty much.
I donβt even play other classes.. only feral cat throughout my wow play time
rugged zenith
You'll find raid comp is more flexible than you thought.
lavish comet
Ok ty mate
lone bear
also, find powershift macros, furor is free 40 energy
energy ticks in with 20 energy at intervals
but you wont need to worry til lvl 20 anyway
lone bear
whats the point in buying the rake upgrade?
rugged zenith
it's really good vs mob 2 lvl higher than you.
I found my dps similar between spamming claw + FB and using rake and rip.
vs similar lvl mob anyway, when i am fighting orange mob (3+ higher lvl) rake and rip is just really good because it ignore armor.
lone bear
true, what do you think of pounce? π
rugged zenith
bad. probably only useful on pvp.
cold moth
hm I thought we'd be lower on the list
karmic juniper
moonkins are almost nonexistent and feral druids aren't horrible early
kind glen
Is feral any good in classic?
noble forge
Its Not complete garbage it isnt great either
rapid wind
Pounce isn't bad, lol, it stops something from attack you for a few seconds anyway you can pounce dot up bleed back away avoid a hit then bear form or whatever.
well its cool when you are duoing for pve also
sur eyou can ravage but if you pounce it will let you and your partner do damage to it longer without it attacking anyone
yeah gotta be in bear and then try to execute precise moments to shift out, barskin, NG, heal
if we were tauren the warstomp root thing is great
Well it doesn't suck in the fact that we are attractive and get laid more than any taurens π
Though not sure if that matters for gameplay lol
nimble kestrel
U lyin to yourself if you think big black bulls aren't getting laid
frigid robin
hmmmm
tall belfry
seems about right. Middle of the pack π€
"our" leggo doesn't drop till phase 6 and when it does its in like 40 pieces... cough
tall belfry
Classic will in theory last forever so it might be possible... oneday
other things to hope for... The End of Dreams
that would be nice
rare anchor
atiesh won't be as rare as it was. The thing you gotta do is become a guild politician and at least be on the list. Eventually it will come ha.
tall belfry
get an all druid raid going... what could go wrong with 40 B rezes?
rare anchor
I think one of the first atieshs on live was actually a druid. Saw it in reddit from multiple posters. Some US realm.
tall belfry
on another thought, if few druids end up in raids but manage to get on good terms in a guild they could get priority. but that would likely require the Druid to be the MT or primary Heals π€
rare anchor
also it wiΔΊl help when people keep reminding themselves how easygoing classic raiding is. Naxx won't be as much as a pushover, nor AQ40, but it will be very very accessible. So then it kinda defeats the point to minmax so heavily on atiesh cause everything is on farm and it was already kinda easy.
at least for modern gamers. So just gotta be a covert operative for a few years. and yoink that favour.
tall belfry
as a pvp weapon it could be useful o-o
rare anchor
Yeah exactly. Become buddies with the RL or GM and make a huge list of stuff you've done for them over the years. Then just call in dat debt or guilt complex when the time comes.
rapid wind
anyone here use clique ?
Wondering if you can get a macro into it so you can cancelform and stuff
low steeple
you can
wicked finch
anyone know if there is an addon for classic that lets you see a timer for your hots on the blizzard raid frames?
low steeple
Click "Bind other" then "Run custom macro" @rapid wind
don't bother with showtooltip; it won't do anything, but the rest of the usual macro commands should work
rapid wind
@low steeple Thank you π I forgot about that.
willow escarp
Oh nice, Clique has a Classic add-on now?
I must have missed it, definitely one of my "must haves"
low steeple
it's been there since the start afaik XD
rapid wind
Seems to not like the the [noform:5} thingy in my macros but other then that it works great π
The reason you missed it is because I believe it's not on the mainstream sites; gotta get it off of curseforge i think
at least it wasn't when i got it
low steeple
is that a direct copy/paste from your macro? cuz you put a } instead of a ] if so
rapid wind
nope sorry just typo here haha
rapid wind
it's really not a big deal as I don't think it matters
rapid wind
4 is travel
rapid wind
I think 5 is boom / tree or something
i never researched it that much since it wasn't relevant at thispoint but I guess if i play resto/ balance it might be
but if i justhave /cancelform no problem but with the [noform:5] it won't activate. Perhaps clique isn't reading it right or something
low steeple
what's your macro doing that you needed noform:5? cuz that shoudl be boomkin, but I thought boomkin wasn't used?
rapid wind
Tree of life also
low steeple
still weird.. I just did noform's with the other forms and it was fine
rapid wind
Same thing as me with the noform:5 also ?
low steeple
no like I did /cancelform [noform:1] and it worked as it should
rapid wind
Try it with [noform:5] see if you get the same thing where it doesn't operate. IF so, my suspicion is since he's probably recoded it from retail it might still be working off of retail or something..
rapid wind
Were you in travel form ?
rapid wind
oh i think it thinks travel form is 5 that's why its doing that
low steeple
should report it to him
sweet tangle
cat/bear druids benefit from direct attack power on gear as well right?
coarse mica
yes
noble forge
@rapid wind tree of Life does not exist
rapid wind
Well whatever, that's what those macros came saying it was for (5); but the bottom line is it is not operating atm because it thinks travel form is 5 not 4. It's actually not a big deal in reality...
So no reason to use the noform:5 ? I don't play resto or balance even in retail lol
I guess it's for moonkin form
near mirage
/run local x=GetShapeshiftForm()print("you are in form:",x)
this will solve your mystery.
and tell you which # it is.
well I misread the issue but still have the script anyway, might come useful. =Γ§
outer meadow
is it me or is the worst part of druid by far the first 10 levels? -edit
rerolled a few new toons on classic and ugh.. wrath spam and casting staffing...
noble forge
why do you wrath after 10?
outer meadow
er, sorry typo there, first 10 levels
noble forge
a lot of classes can be quite annoying first 10 levels
didnt feel like druid was particularly bad
upbeat knot
Druid didnt feels good until 20
noble forge
yes
near mirage
I guess the main difference is that with most classes you can already do what your favorite flavor will do, while for druids is ... well, nothing till 20 =P if you want to be a feral.
noble forge
and 20 should be your 11th talent
upbeat knot
Truuu
outer meadow
since we're already chatting in here, I had a 60 druid bakc in vanilla, mostly a pvp healer/flag carrier but it was prior to the buffs to the feral tree
does anyone feel strongly about 0/30/21 vs 7/11/33ish?
for pvp?
near mirage
so, feral or resto?
vague iris
would you reroll to place feral swiftness into other talents after travel form?
near mirage
I wouldn't, travel form doesn't work indoors.
but.. personal preference and what you do.
willow escarp
Yes
near mirage
no, nevermind me. I'm out 2/2 this far.
willow escarp
I like keeping feline swiftness - saves the mana of shifting to travel then back to cat
Certainly wouldn't even consider speccing out until 60
remote lance
You can't really weigh throughput and longevity objectively
modern anchor
yes but you kinda need less mana with +heal so you need less int
sick merlin
I was farming St minibosses for like 3 hours and got 1 blue item and it wasn't shoulders :(
noble forge
@vague iris wouldnt respecc for questing for example staying in cat preservers your energy
so its still quite useful
and unless you bear a lot the other talents arent really impactful
was wondering tho how good is primal fury for dungeon tanking on low level or should I just go predatory strikes -> Faerie Fire -> Savage fury instead?
intending to SM monastary farm anyway later on so prolly respeccing to Feral Instinct instead of brutal impact/thick hide anyway so might just go full bear for that
sick merlin
Don't get tank talants while lvling imo you don't need it
vague iris
@noble forge thx
noble forge
@sick merlin extra threat and extra rage for sure is useful
I just dont know how much rage it really is
both extra rage and extra threat is additional dmg
sick merlin
Yeah it's nice but is rather have the cat talents while lvling. I'm still currently tanking 60 dungeons without any tank talents and haven't had issues
Primal fury generates a lot of rage assuming your criteria is high
Crit*
noble forge
no
oh
nvm
im
dumb
I always thought it gives rage if they crit you
but its if you crit
tall belfry
"I always thought it gives rage if they crit you" that is warrior which is why they are going Fury tank build.
noble forge
@tall belfry no?
there is no warrior talent which gives extra rage on crit
enrage is dmg
but pretty sure thats not the main reason to go fury tank later on
sand raven
it is hte reason you go fury tank, to do more threat
noble forge
well there are a lot of reasons not only enrage
but afaik you cant really go fury tank yet you lack too much hit
rapid wind
nice 59 mage down.. lol
rapid wind
+5 levels not bad
mental crystal
yeah i've noticed all the good ones play either tauren if they're horde or night elf if they're alliance
haughty siren
you know what i mean
mental crystal
no no clue at all what you mean
noble forge
but sure horde racial is better in pvp
mental crystal
pretty vapid question tbh
haughty siren
Do most of the good players that I want to watch play PVP play horde?
will want to
rapid wind
i like SM cuz its handy to drink and use while waiting for stealth to come up but yeah its not as nice as TS
noble forge
oh
rapid wind
So if you start eating you vis but you CAN sm
rapid wind
bit of a ok i can tab out and not worry haha if im in a dangerous area
noble forge
on my lvl 26 druid I dont think I used shadowmeld once yet
rapid wind
when i heard it stunk compared to retail i thought I never would
but then I figured out how to make it at least somewhat useful
but unlike taurens we need to hope for a NG versus a stomp, entangling roots π
rapid wind
omg so bad I beat him but i keep forgetting to use first aid lol
i could healed up to full when he blocked
rapid wind
bad form to use healing / mana pots when you are getting ganked ?
covert rover
huh?
i use everything
if you can't afford to use pots/bandages/healthstones and what's'not then you shouldn't be jumping me
i'm not going to die to some idiot trying to kill me while i mind my own business
remote lance
Fear ward perception escape artist are all pretty decent for pvp. Not as good as horde but not nothing
And bubble heal is pretty much alliance "racial" anyway. No mass dispell to check it
sand raven
shadowmeld is sick
start drinking -> shadowmeld
bam now instead of being in your most vulnerable state you're in your most protected one
maiden current
Anyone go Balance tree first before filling out the feral tree? I've seen some videos of people getting Omen first while leveling. Is it worth it ? No? I would try but re specing is expensive.
sand raven
no
but
it is better to go balance tree until you hit 20
in which case you respec & swap to feline swiftness
covert rover
i went full feral from start.. getting that speed is such a great thing
and wild charge right after too
if you are a rich boye then sure.. but i had issues having enough gold.. defo didn't feel like spending a full gold at lvl 20
if it was the second char or i had people to gimme money then i would have gone balance from start and respecced
maiden current
@covert rover Thats what I did
Im 38 now. Just was wondering if anyone tried Balance then feral here. Heard good things somewhere else but wanted more input before I spend a precious gold coin
covert rover
going feral from start also makes getting cat form so much better since you had nothing to make life easier in caster form XD
maiden current
Going balance gives you more dmg? dont know how much. Omen and cheaper shifting.
Plus the grasping roots on being hit ability
covert rover
indeed.. shorter wrath cast time and better moonfire
tbh i dunno which talents i would go for first there.. i ended up deciding for feral from start and forgot the idea for the other trees
maiden current
Ah I see what you are saying. If you plan on going Feral the typical talents you grab are Natures Grasp, Improved Natures, Natural weapons, Omen and Natural Shapeshifter.
sand raven
i felt like Wild Charge was a terrible choice until I got Furor
tall belfry
I think i'm having to learn a lot more macros for things that just work in retail. (cancel aura to use abilities or items etc, show different tool tips for forums. stance conditions etc)
noble forge
@maiden current pretty sure every guide which recommends going balance respeccs at 20
but 1g is quite a lot
that early
and I personally am not going feral charge
dont see too much point early
maybe if you dungeon grind
tall belfry
I wasn't planning on a power shift build but by lvl 30ish i'm reconsidering that...
crude hawk
I'm gonna have to go healing for raiding, but would still like to not be useless doing world content solo. Better to do like a moonglow hybrid build or something that includes HotW and cat talents out of the feral tree?
rapid wind
have to remember to use my first aid its 300 and when a mage blocks, and you don't want to waste mana it's clutch...
remote lance
Honestly all of the talents dont do that much for you. Feral tree probably gives the most bang for the buck
Gear sets matter much more than the talents
dense bronze
Honestly if you want to do world content get a friend, and if you want to farm level an alt
Doing anything alone in healing spec/gear is rather painful and it will never be worth it to respec every week
Trying to do some sort of solo/raid hybrid will just make you a lot worse in raids
dense bronze
"viable"
karmic juniper
dyne i killed ragnaros as a moonkin
dense bronze
Congratulations
karmic juniper
i was given power infusion
dense bronze
And yet I can't see you on top dps? π€
heady kite
Im sorry, you want to top dps as the utility class?
karmic juniper
well i'm obviously not going to top dps on a raid boss in basically any situation
regardless
i'm in a guild full of good players who are also playing meta specs
power infusion given to me was just a meme
heady kite
nothing wrong with that, it was a shot at dyneslott for saying you werent to dps lol
tall belfry
This seems relevant. something to think about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3crp7UlbrI
tall belfry
using wow head filters i see only 2 neck items in phase 1 with ~10 stam int
you could use that to further tweak the filters
https://classic.wowhead.com/amulets?filter=22:23;2:2;10:10
rapid wind
yeah im using that neck still too not much better available on AH atm
radiant venture
Hey dudes, I recently made an easy gold farming guide for druid/rogue. It's a really simple method with guaranteed profit. Here's a link with both a written method and video. https://old.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/d8jvp4/relic_coffer_runs_a_guide_to_start_making_some/
zinc fiber
anyone who plays the economy or only cares about goldmaking is an evil weirdo
chrome nova
dense bronze
Welcome back rewt
zinc fiber
Thank u
uneven tangle
does anyone know what the stat priority is for HOTW/NS resto druid is?
rare anchor
As in, a healing set for the spec? higher emphasis on intellect cause you want to benefit more from HotW. So, if it's +10 int and 33 healing versus 0 stats 44 healing. Probs go for the 10 int piece
later it matters less but for phase 1, use zero int items sparingly, if you have the choice.
rapid wind
Why would anyone be upset if you roll on leather pieces for tanking? because you are healing ?
There's a strong argument that before 60 almost every piece is a potential upgrade for druids or for any class really unless it's clear cut caster item or whatever
willow escarp
rings/neck are tough because the actual tank will likely want it
rapid wind
ohwell im usually him so π perhaps it's because he's healing. Probably want to set up some party guidelines on that beforehand...
noble forge
@rapid wind @cold moth im usually tanking but asking to roll for dmg gear tbh just ask if they find it annoying that you roll on the gear
like you rolling need on both cloth and tank stuff is a bit exsessive
than tell them beforehand
most people wont mind but if you randomly need
thats annoying
well that is kinda on you cant get annoyed by people wanting their main specc
sterile eagle
when does the patch hits US?
coarse mica
Classic patch? 
sick merlin
I tank and dps a lot as feral. What's the best spec to kinda be okay at both
noble forge
looks to be very focused on tank
sick merlin
Yeah that's pretty much all tank
I dunno about the improved thorns
I guess I just have to give up thickhide and feline grace
If I Wana not completely suck at dps
sand raven
yeah it is a tank setup
karmic lark
Have any of you planned on doing the heart of the wild build?
sand raven
yea right there
karmic lark
That isn't the build lol. Heart of the wild is a 0/31/21 build
I have enjoyed improved thorns for solo content though
sick merlin
Well you didn't specify which build lol
Every feral build is a heart of the wild build
rapid wind
i use that one for my pvp tank dps spec atm for levelling and will probabl just keepit
karmic lark
The heart of the wild build isnt a feral only build. Its a hybrid one that players can heal and tank in the same raid effectively
rapid wind
Probably should stop talking about 'feral" "resto" "balance" and concentrate on the individual talent options that you take or don't take as otherwise, illustrated here, it can get confusing π
remote lance
Be the true hybrid and spec 17 17 17
sick merlin
Ew
covert rover
or just call them guardian specs >(
nimble kestrel
bear cat resto uselessbird
jk i love my laser oomkins
druid in vanilla pvp is actually so fun
doesn't even matter what spec their kit is just cool to play with
remote lance
Wow toxic
sand raven
w8 i'm dumb
i thought you meant leader of the pact not heart of the wild
heart of the wild build is 30-21, meaning you can't pick up leader of the pack, such a juicy talent lost out on by just 1 point
crisp mountain
@karmic lark I'm running the HoTW/NS build, happy tanking or healing anything and can hold own single target dps. Might have to respec OoC for phase 2 but it's gr8 atm. Only issue is the max water takes forever to fill 4500mana
noble forge
@sick merlin Thorns is a lot of dmg in dungeons
noble forge
rage can hurt you a lot
sick merlin
Yeah just want primal fury and 15% more threat mostly
Been just tanking as full dps spec
Hard to keep with overzealous dps
Keep up*
sand raven
i played with a balance druid while leveling through Scarlet Monastery
ever since then I've wanted to spec imp thorns, sadly I can't start to spec it until fuckin 56
but i definitely want it
rapid wind
I want my NS soon like in 2 levels π
karmic lark
@crisp mountain how is AoE tanking? I mostly like the look of the build because I hate waiting for groups so filling two roles at once seems awesome
crisp mountain
It's painful to generate rage while dps are hitting every mob except skull...but with a bit of sense from dps it's fine. Swipe only hits 3 mobs so no point pulling more, tab Maul gives great threat
rapid wind
Yeah so unless there's a reason like a difficult pull I don't bother with the markers
everyone is "go go go retail" lol π
crisp mountain
π
noble forge
@karmic lark thorns is great for aoe tanking
You will lose Aggro on some Mobs but thats fine
Scary once can often be taunted back or dps kites a Bit or tanks them
rapid wind
wish there was a range conditional on a macro
bitter snow
any lvl 60 cats around? π
thorn vapor
any1 got some WA for Nature's Grace?
rapid wind
justowned a 60 priest at56 well i didnt kill him but he ran awaylol...
is there a CD on dispel magic ? I guess it costs em mana though right (signifcant)?
rapid wind
well he panic wrestled cuz he was almost OOM fast... he was trying to mana burn me but then realized he was going to die lol....
will try the rank 1 rejuv trick next time.. he seemed fairly dumb and with poor reflexes
he ganked me when i wsa low fighting a mob and then i came back to make an attempt had a feeling it wouldn't be a bad idea π
tall belfry
33 armor or +4 defense for tanking π€
bitter snow
ARMOR!
rapid wind
will include it in my next video no he panic wrestled pretty fast π it was never a point where I had to actually really worry about healing
I have a hilarious clip in fellwood im doing that ariel escort and some aoeing mage either tries to ruin it or just gets confused while mouthbreathing.. but he got owned by me with some help from the treant π
sick merlin
Why would a mage ever try to kill a druid
rugged zenith
You can't hibernate a mob stunned by bash. Y'all know if this is intended or bug?
rugged zenith
I just died 3 times from devilsaur because it said "more powerful spell is already active" when i try to bash -> hibernate
i thought i canceled hibernate by accident, but i saw he replay and that what it said.
rugged zenith
Both time happened when bash is up
it's considered a stun, so i guess bash took priority?
rank3 bash vs rank 2 hibernate
maybe i should try derank bash and see if higher rank hibernate win
sick merlin
Go train rank 3!
rugged zenith
still 57
rugged zenith
5 so far
Devilsaur is the hardest one because knockback ate like 20% of my health in bear form.
sick merlin
Everytime I try to farm them there's 5-10 horde camping spawns
rugged zenith
Tyrant and Ironhide is very easy.
i only see 1 lvl 60 rogue probably farming there too. My server isn't PvP so i am surprised with the lack of competition, might be because of not prime time.
sick merlin
Ah
Yeah I've resorted to waiting till horde loot a devilsaur and then ravaging them lol
But doesn't always work out
rugged zenith
what's 1 devilsaur leather on your server cost rn?
rugged zenith
28-29 on mine. Maybe because lack of horde.
sick merlin
Oh wow
I feel like it should be cheaper on a pve server
Unless it's just smaller pop
rugged zenith
According to the realm pop thing that pop up in wowhead. Atiesh-US, 7:3 ally:horde -_-
sick merlin
Ouch
dense bronze
Don't trust that data
sand raven
alpine kayak
My main is mining/engi what is a good prof for Druid? I wanted to go herb/alch but love having engi. Not sure engi will be too crazy for druid though. Thoughts?
hardy dawn
engineering is good for every class in classic
rapid wind
The only con of it compared to other classes is cuz of the forms...
but it's still good π
nade, rejuv, bandage, win π
sand raven
engi is bis for every class but druids get the least out of it
rapid wind
currently am alchemy enchant soon gonna swich to engineer
covert rover
i'm herb/alch for leveling
not like it's possible to lvl alch during that without herbing
after that i prolly swap over to engi
noble forge
ive found leatherworking being insane gold
withs imply buying mats and vendoring (or disenchanting can be worth too)
dusky kraken
Yo guys, when have you been able to AoE farm as Druid while leveling? Is 40 enough when you have the AoE spell or also need 44 for Bark Skin? Or does anyone AoE farm as bear
sand raven
the aoe spell? You mean hurricane? It's on a 1 min cd lul
remote lance
Hurricane is like super meme tier
rugged zenith
1min cd, cast time, no damage, less tick if you get hit, no talent that buffs it, cost bajilion mana.
Meanwhile frostmage blissard...
tender scarab
it also goes ham on threat because of the attack speed debuff
noble forge
ive seen tanks use it with barkskin on some pulls
seems solid for that
occasionally
but gotta know that you can survive it
torpid musk
I never even trained it yet lol
sand raven
no
hurricane is sick
barkskin > hurricane on giant pulls
i've been saving for mount but now i'm gonna pick it up for to help with the huge pulls that I can't hold threat on
sand raven
how many keybinds you use? the 36?
rapid wind
Well i have a red dragon gamepad and use a lot of them but let's face it at least for me not every single bind is going to be comfortable enough for something that you want to hit fast
verbal cobalt
So i'm losing Leader of the pack on every other power shift, is that normal? Is there a way to prevent that from happening via macro?
haughty siren
I just got 6 gold from deviate delight recipe in the barrens. Im level 14. Any items I can buy that would make me level faster?
dense bronze
Save it
If anything only buy cheap bags
12 slots should be quite cheap
(at AH, never buy bags from bag vendor)
bitter snow
As a druid, just save it. You have great early scaling after you get bear form and cat form is king on 24
ivory gorge
So dont bother with cat form till 24?
noble forge
Cat is great asap
zinc fiber
cat good as soon as u get meow meow
cold moth
I've a druid question re: Ferocious Bite. Is it inefficient to use it with one combo point and if so, when is the optimal time to use it
Five points obviously but what I mean is, is there a time when it's better to just use Claw
noble forge
Well Just Look at the DMG each of the spells does but im Sure it depends on ranks and gear
cold moth
im still only level 34 so i suppose it doesnt matter much
also see this skill tree, why does it have feral charge when its meant for cats: https://classic.wowhead.com/guides/feral-druid-dps-talents-builds-classic-wow
I think I should respect at level 60 and drop that talent
cold moth
If I've specced for fps isn't it logic to assume I'll spend most of my time in cat form
noble forge
What would you Take for extra dps?
cold moth
in terms of spec, not looked yet but wanted to confirm that for dps thats a wasted point
noble forge
No its not
Interrupts are good
And could use it to Kite in a pinch too or get to a Mob to taunt it quickly
Sure its Not amazing but its Not useless and you sacrifice nothing for it, on my Druid i dont have it specced yet either but No reason not to have it at 60
cold moth
I think you guys are maybe missing my question. I simply want to know in terms of spec whether that point is useful for someone who is going to play 99% cat. I spend very little time in bear form
How can it be considered useful if I'm not in that form much at all
noble forge
You are a druid Not a cat
You should use your spells you should heal If needed you should bear If needed and Innervate If needed
Especially while leveling
cold moth
OK, well I'll see what other opinions there are. Thanks for your 2p
noble forge
There are No options
Only bear Talents or increased stealth/Bear threat
Vanilla talent trees dont really have options
Feline swiftness for raiding/Dungeons is probably a worse Point too but Just nothing to get
Unless i miscounted i guess that could be moved into Imp thorns
cold moth
- Because I'll never use it?
noble forge
You should
cold moth
I've had it for several levels and it's never been used
cold moth
Anyway. There is nothing either of you have said that made me want to keep the point so as I said earlier, I'll hear some other opinions
cold moth
bbiab
noble forge
Ye but If WE Talk raid/dungeon
And Imp thorns
Is decent
Thorns
Yeah and think i counted 5 for each roe
Row
So it could be doable
But what use does Imp stealth have
Unless you do some Invis runs
Id rather Take imp thorns or motw
If only Druid thats actually Not too bad
cold moth
ok
rapid wind
Do you pvp at all strider?
Ok so im stealthed at the black forge alone at 58 lol
No FR gear
any chance to take out this 56 elite with some kind of midian magic
20% π¦
coarse mica
Yeah that's not gonna end well for you
rapid wind
I think I would have won if i had any FR gear...
chrome nova
BD?
cold moth
@rapid wind - Not yet
rapid wind
Well i don't particularly care its just that the group I wasin ended before we got there so i tried to do it on my own.. im sure next time im there ill have a full groupto makesure i get it
I got the MC attunement at least
@cold moth If you plan on pvping...learn about how and when to use bear, feral charge is critical... you will get destroyed withtout a gap closer..
learned so much over the last few weeks about it all
rapid wind
are you on a pvp or pve server?
cold moth
pve
cold moth
My original question was where better I could spend that point
to make a slightly altered talent tree
rapid wind
But like these guys are saying, you might want to interrupt a mob fast you might want to tank a few to live, etc...
cold moth
I can see the application
rapid wind
I would be hard pressed to suggest a feral charge swap to any other talent honestly at this point
rapid wind
it saves my ass in pve also π a lot of mobs heal to full you can when you see them start to cast back up or strafe a bit over and then charge once you have a bit of distance
You can bind the ability to "any" of your melee abilities in a macro
Since it will only activate if you are at range (and same for the melee ability)
i have it on my taunt button and my maul button so if im at range i will charge and if im in melee i will do those abilities
saves a keybind π
cold moth
cut and paste that macro would you please?
rapid wind
Though I would also suggest having it set up so when you whack the keyboard it also shifts you to bear first
sure
one sec
/stand
/dismount
/cancelform [@target.harm,noform:1/3/5]
/cast [noform:1/3] Dire Bear Form
/cast [noform:1/3] Bear Form
/startattack
/cast feral charge
/cast [form:3] Claw
/cast [form:1] Maul
So what this will do will put you into bear if not in cat or bear
will charge if at range
will claw if in cat form, maul in melee if in bear form
You can remove the cat form from cancelform (3) and the claw if you dont want to share keybinds
cold moth
No matter, I'll test this first
I don't think that's going to be especially useful for me but thanks for sharing anyway
I'd be interested to know what other macros you use tho
rapid wind
glad to help π
So many... what did you need to do. I assume you already have powershift macros? When you heal you have ones that remove your form right ?
cold moth
I find I have a shortage of keys
and I have 3 keys to switch between forms
4 keys, i use middle MB for cat
Anything to handle this more smoothly. I'd simply as which macros make life easier
rapid wind
Well having ones for each form is great. I have mouse up down for bear / cat and then shift of those two for a power shift
I have macros for all casted spells as well so i can leave the forms so i don't have to do it manually
I also use help/harm macros for things like abolish poison, healing spells, so for instance my moonfire / rejuv will activate depending on if my mouseover/target is a good or bad guy
/stand
/dismount
/cancelform [@target,exists,noform:5][@mouseover,exists,noform:5]
/cast [@mouseover,help]Rejuvenation;[@mouseover,harm]Moonfire;[help]Rejuvenation;Moonfire
Not everyone likes those though...
But it sure saves keybinds π
I have separate binds for my own sellf heals and stuff as well
And although not practiced have one set up for @party1 since there is no focus targets inclassic
rapid wind
you could change @party1 to your buddy'sname also
to make it easier
try to consolidate so that your shift/ctrls are like relative to your spells
for me ctrl R is self healing touch, while R is my mouseovertarget macro for it
One of the challenges classic has is you can't cast inside a form.... you have to leave it so I had to make some adjustments since I can't use my help / harm macros easily if im in a form and need to cast a spell it's messy
cold moth
ok well for the moment I think I'll just it the way it is. I think I'd need a deper understanding of those macros to use them properly
deeper*
but interesting reading nonetheless
brb
rapid wind
I didnt try it
Would have been an idea though
I almost beat it
but got smashed downheard near the end lol
yeah not allowed inside
or you mean charge
cold moth
What's daft is that 'moon' fire is
cold moth
If the target is tough I drop a faerie fire and moonfire before shifting
rapid wind
yes you consolidate your shifts
cold moth
but most of the time i dont bother
rapid wind
should beusing feral version no mana no required caster form
cold moth
l34
rapid wind
like you wanna rejuv into a MF/IS if you can spare the mana a lot of my stuff is also pvp related lol
cold moth
sorry 35
rapid wind
maybe as well just be a rogue haha
cold moth
You keep banging on about this, I prefer to play most of my time in cat form, it doesn't mean I do it 100% and your insitence on repeatedly mentioning it is only serving to irritate now tbh
I got it the first time
rapid wind
sorry brah
cold moth
Not you
I do appreciate the help though but yeah, I get it. Druids are flexible, use that advantage. I'm not an idiot π
well not a complete one, anyway
rapid wind
well tried to solo the two 48 elites at the entrance of brd and got owned lol zomg
cold moth
What level are you
cold moth
Someone mentioned that in cat form I should be using claw like 95% of the time. Do you not throw in Tigers Fury, Rake or Shred?
rapid wind
you can only shred from behind
cold moth
Sorry, I meant Rip instead of shred
rapid wind
so do that when you can but be smart if you can't shred due to energy restrictions claw or finish
Depends on if you aer soloing or in dungeons
rapid wind
you need to like analyze each fight with a few things. How long will it last? am I going to dodge the melee swing or just tank it, and then if its getting near dying you wanna dump your CP since they don't transfer
you can work to set up a beautiful rip but if the mob dies before you can use it.. FAILURE, shoulda FBed it off or used a shittier rip
rapid wind
yeah
cold moth
make sense, will use ferocious bite and rip on long fights
how much do you use rake?
oh k
rapid wind
also stops bandaging and stuff i do believe
@inner thorn can you send me your updated BIS List ?
cold moth
Does it make me a bad person that I'm sad I can't skin trolls ? π
cold moth
Any general tips for pve for druid in classic at level 35
I will start moonfire more often before shifting to cat
tall belfry
Does "increases healing done by spells and effects by up to <amount>" apply to frenzy regen?
remote lance
No
willow escarp
@cold moth What mouseover macros are you using? I have one for Faerie Fire (Feral) and it still clears my combo points if I use it on a new target
rapid wind
It's a harmful spell so it would.
willow escarp
Also - thanks for the BiS list, good stuff
rapid wind
I believe he's saying that if you mouseover without targeting (target swap) and cast a spell it won't erase your CP
willow escarp
Right - I just haven't been able to get that to work. I'll need to check if it would work with a healing spell, but it doesn't seem to work with Faerie Fire (Feral). If I target MOB A and have 3 CP, then mouseover MOB B and cast Faerie Fire (Feral), it resets my CP (I think? admittedly been awhile since I tried but I think I stopped doing it because it kept resetting)
Also, I hate that if I loot something it resets my CP π I can't help myself!
rapid wind
Pretty sure even withmouseovers yougonna reset your CP with a harmful spell
willow escarp
got it
that makes sense
That makes sense though - and definitely still valuable to be able to heal without losing CP. Particularly for cure poison/curse
rapid wind
Yeah but one of the classic issues is that decision at least if you are feral tank/dps is if it's worth it cuz of the massive amount of mana it's going to cost for that one spell π
sand raven
@cold moth wait that works? If you mouseover rake another target it won't drop CP from your current??
nvm just read stuff
rapid wind
I would never disagree with that however an improperly timed switch out and not able to go back into bear... .. dum dum dum π but yeah which is why you need to make some solid choices AND always carry a mana pot π
sand raven
i heal sometimes
depends on a lot of things
if the group is low on mana i'll dump all my rage at the end of the fight & hop out of bear to heal / rebuff
but usually i'm looking to bank a ton of rage to swipe spam the next pull
rapid wind
Trying to solo to get back to the guy in BRD prison but tought od o those dogs see invis
nimble kestrel
shred as many shreds as you can shred
mental storm
Can anyone recommend how I should be getting gear as a feral Druid?
Currently 60. Should I just be running Strat, Shcholmance, and BRS till I get all my drops?
rapid wind
it's hard to answer that as there are a lot of ways to play that ; ifyou shift more or like to do that you will need more "int" than say a strider who likes to always stay in cat form even if he's getting lit up π haha
mental storm
But generally in dungeons you're not gonna be switching a lot are you? people want you to stay in 1 form, either tank or heaals or DPS
unless it s a boss fight, you may want to switch to get the furor bonus
rapid wind
I like to switch and do well finding opportune times to dot. As long as I am effective; I don't care what people want π
so while tanking or dpsing i probably have a few more int pieces π
but at some point you can do a search and a feral tank high armor set, etc I believe flash has posted his stuff for int and it icludes that scroll back look for the excel files
mental storm
whasts an addon that tracks your energyh
sudden estuary
anyone have a mark target SKULL when you faerie fire it macro?
rapid wind
@mental storm How do you want it tracked by number or via like a "bar" ? Both can be done in WA or through most bar mods..
brittle crater
as feral, do you need to level weapon skills to be able to hit?
rapid wind
You still want to level up your weapon skills
If you ever end up out of form no mana, still wanna be able to weedwhack someone to death π
ivory gorge
Start combat at lvl 21 with Moonfire or Faerie fire into Cat or Bear? Questing
or just cat form max energy
ivory gorge
This is without Furor
little wigeon
Definitely get furor immediately
ivory gorge
And then do the Faerie into Cat form opener?
chrome nova
Definitely get 30% movement speed in cat form immediately
rapid wind
@cold moth about to get NS... do you use it mainly for emerg heals or roots... and i guess willneed toset up some macros for alone, and instant root/instant heal
rapid wind
yeah
im going to practice first i suppose
so healing touch... BTW i am using rank 4 and rank 8 of those so far
rapid wind
I remember this now... π You can be moving a bit and it wont instant cast the heal, so if you want to just use NS just move a bit and it wont and then you can cast whatever spell... if you just stop for a second it will do both. I am happy with that π
noble forge
Furor does Not really seem WΓΆrth early on at all
remote lance
Furor should be your last 5 points unless you want to spec into 0 30 21 early, which itself is questionable if you mostly solo
rapid wind
Depends on how often you shift and if you pair it with a wolfshead helm π
remote lance
Wolfsheads value doesnt change with or without furor. The benefit of furor is the same
rapid wind
Well it's personal preference i like the extra energy and rage ...
remote lance
Agreed on how often you change of course but I'm skeptical it beats out ooc or hotw
I'm not going to debate "personal preference"
rapid wind
I can bash someone who jumps me or charge
can do a power shift and do the other immediately if required but I get what you are saying from a leveling efficiency perspective only might not be "optimal"
remote lance
I dont think the difference is big or even noticeable. The utility to charge immediately is nice but only if you dont have a wolfshead since that 5 rage is provided there
And needing 5 points to be completely reliable is kind of annoying
sick merlin
I could never pvp without furor especially if I'm hotw resto
rapid wind
I wish there was a way to put a conditional in a macro to not cancelform if you "can't" cast a spell... higher level version or whatever
guess its not gonna happen though lol
noble forge
@sick merlin obviously furor is real nice for pvp and high level pve but during leveling I kinda have to use my mana for other stuff besides some fairly low dps gain
uneven yew
I am rerolling druid in classic... any good resources for macros or should i just hit up wowhead guides?
uneven yew
awesome! I will check them out when i get home
rapid wind
I use a lot from there, with my own improvements and additions π
remote lance
the real vanilla macro system is ridiculously powerful
so in terms of macro system, it is legit notmuvanilla
mental crystal
imagine boomers complaining that the game doesn't play itself 
remote lance
we killed patchwerk without a single mana pot back in vanilla because they just wrote a macro that only casted when certain conditions are met for healing spells and all healers just spammed that button
ended the fight with plenty of mana and had like 5% overheal, it was glorious
mental crystal
lmfao
remote lance
they honestly should have kept the old macro system in, who cares if people wrote 40 bots to raid? If anything that is actually way more entertaining than people getting surprised that people in greens can easily clear MC
high echo
Quick q, rogues have always eluded me in PvP. What do you guys do against a rogue who smacks you over the head and costs you a few seconds in reaction times?
rapid wind
I will try to help a bit
First of all if you are fighting mobs and are low health or mana, there's a solid chance you will die... the best advice is to try to heal with a POT and get into bear form ASAP if that's the case and then start the regular process of timing his stuns and trying to get a feeling for when he's going to hit you with a big eviscerate
The strategy can change dramatically depending on if you get the opener OR you have room to run away and kite and stuff
If you are opening in proactive mode you can pop a free action or whatever (resto) and hit yourself with an abolish once you are dong your opener which would be great if its pounce rake, or ravage rake, followed by NG on yourself as soon as he gets stuck you can pop out and abolish/rejuv. Taurens can war stomp / root also which is effective.
As soon as you are away from him even a bit you want to try to get a moonfire / insect swarm on him ; I will backtrack the most important thing in what you do is get him FFed ... it's even more important than abolish
if not room to kite you have to bear tank him and wait for openings...
high echo
For me, itβs usually a deep in mobs and down to maybe around half my health when a sap comes in. Was mentioning it to a friend about how thatβs just kinda that and was told if I was basically a more flexibly Druid I could get out of that situation via bear form, bash and heal
rapid wind
ideal scenario he's got rake, a rip ff, mf, is all ticking and you managed to get him rooted and land a full regrowth rejuv and can get into bear form
its pretty much GG as he can't reset if you got FF on him...
solar island
quick q for low-lvl leveling feral druid but, 7 agi or 5str + 3agi? (I have two chests and deciding which to keep and which to vendor) I noticed on the stat bits limited as it is, the latter provides a lil dps boost, but the former gives some armor (and likely some crit that I can't see without an addon?)
high echo
Thank you
rapid wind
you can bash just be careful cuz 1) it seems to get dodged parried a lot
and if he's an orc
its going to be resisted a lot
bash then root then do the above is solid tactics
high echo
It does. And luckily my friends made me play horde so thatβs never an issue
sick merlin
@noble forge I got it around 40 just because I got wolf's helm and powershifting was really fun.
rapid wind
When you get to about 30% or so I would prio getting an innervate offf or you are going to be oom and you know what that means against a rogue out of form.
high echo
Yeah that was my issue with him telling me to switch forms, heal and go back to cat. Super mana draining
rapid wind
Always carry Mana pots although in some cases, you won't havethatluxury
since if its a gank you might have popped the healing pot already
high echo
Yeah thatβs my go to
rapid wind
Just gotta relax and try to make the best moves
As I mentioned if he's good and you are low ; chances are you will die. But if he sticks around, the advice is to go back rez, and get away to restealth and rebuff. You never want to fight a rogue without your buffs, thorns as you will just die again. I learned this the hard way... other classes are not as quite as punished as if we come back with no mana / health low no buffs...
I am still a newb but it's a lot of fun learning how to beat different classes in different situations π
@high echo i have a video where I make a lot of mistakes vs a rogue, but still manage to win π but every mistake is something you take something from
sick merlin
Also don't try go head to head vs rogue in cat form you'll most likely lose.
rapid wind
100% agreed lol
actually the ONLY time you will be in cat form vs a rogue is if you can open.. at least that's my opinion so far
rapid wind
as soon as there is separate try to get MF, IS, rejuv; FF should be up before he has a chance to react...
sick merlin
Is blind considered a poison in classic?
You can pre cast abolish if you're meet and predict blind
Leet*
high echo
And yeah I make a lot of mistakes, but Druid is such an infrequently played class that I never wanna be the shitty Druid people only group with because Iβm on a low pop realm
So Iβm always trying to be less shitty
sick merlin
Just comes with practice the more you world pvp
The better you'll get
And need macros
Or it's very annoying
Dueling helps a lot too
If you have time
high echo
This is the first time in all my years of Druid Iβve even used macros
So itβs already a vast improvement to me
sick merlin
Honestly I like running away from people even more
It's always fun getting away when people try to gank you
rapid wind
Actually if you FF the guy blind isn't as bad and sometimes it gives you a bit of time to figure out your moves lol
Will have another video up in few minutes if you wanna check it out. I am not a great editor or PVPer but entertain myself doing them so be nice haha.
solid kiln
if I am following my druid around on my 50 priest to heal him and keep renew on, it is quicker to just go all in on bear talents compared to cat, right?
or is it quicker to pull fewer mobs and then bleed them with cat form and move on to the next mob?
rapid wind
I like to use cat and bear if i get too much or whatever
Cat is faster and it also depends on the level of the mobs you are fighting... its easier (but longer) to win in bear if they arehigher level
solid kiln
okay, yeah I was wondering if it would be faster to pull a bunch as bear (since I can heal myself with my other account)
cloud grail
a good talents for world pvp?
rugged zenith
That one talent that make root less likely to be broken. Plus nature's grasp it's pretty strong.
I mean in retail right now my meta as balance pvp in BG is to use deep root and blow someone up with all cd's while they're still being rooted the whole time. Work 7 out of 10 times.
I am sure it's stronger in classic considering lack of way to remove cc
Plus, i soloed elite's with just root. Took hours to do so. But hey. Most of the time someone joins in and ask for invite lol
red solar
yes
meager falcon
Anyone know how to make it so i can see the healing I cast on someone?
rapid wind
like where ? which part nameplate frame ? just an indicator button ?
meager falcon
Just the number isnt showing up anywhere on the screen
can see it on myself but not party
meager falcon
yes but i have the options in the interface menu perfect...just cant see numbers on players
lot of ppl haveing this issue on the forms
rapid wind
hmm weird you could try another scrolling text mod
Well my new video is uploaded very short, though most people seem to not like them LOL π
meager falcon
yeah ill have to find a addon it looks like
rapid wind
so goblin or gnome engineer
covert rover
usually just about what you yourself prefer from each side
might just want to read through it .. tend to be gadget on each side you would want
noble forge
I think "optimal"
is gnome engineer
craft everything
and swap
may be other way around
cant remember
rapid wind
lol.. I will
rapid wind
Anyone know if the trinkets from engineering will be usable in forms? I know the grenades are not but some trinkets actually work in forms just not sure on the engineering ones
near leaf
I'm not on PvP server this time around. But do droods still have a peace pact like back in the day?
Everyone else is fair game, but Druids don't harm Druids!
vague iris
does that exist?
remote lance
That was the etiquette back then yes
vague iris
cool
snow finch
it's kinda similar to the hunters don't kill other hunters' tames
or if you see a rare you don't want, you contact all other hunters and ask them
the hunter one is mostly the only one retained currently in classic, the druid one's been lost in time
wheat hemlock
is there any way to get heal prediction in classic? having trouble setting up vuhdo, cant get it to work with heal prediction
whole swan
Think Luna unit frames had something like that
maiden current
@near leaf At least on my server no. Moonglade isnt even safe.
near leaf
π¦
rapid wind
Actually most players don't attack me unless in groups, or way higher level. Mostly rogues and mages priests are the solo higher level attackers
viral yarrow
what does cat form damage scale off of again? only attack speed?
noble forge
no
only ap
and crit
and hit
I guess attack speed to some extend to if you mean stuff like crowd pummeler on use
viral yarrow
so weapon damage and swing speed affects it or no?
vague iris
no
your weapon got nothing to do with your dmg, it is only a statstick
except crowdpummeler which increases your meleespeed with the use
bitter kelp
Just tanked my first dungeon (rfc) & it was far from perfect, but my group was pretty helpful.
Any tanking tips???
noble forge
guess big tip is that losing threat is perfectly fine
and doing dungeons as an underleveled tank
is horrible
near leaf
Early dungeons are basically taunt what u can while DPS blow stuff up. It "evolves" as you level and you'll learn from experience.
It will feel bad until later levels, dont worry bout losing a mob or two here and there.
rapid wind
Still not sure what i want more first the gnome stuff or gobln engineering stuff . I know you can switch but don't wanna do that just yet π
bitter kelp
Yeah it felt pretty bad lol
lone bear
Warsong, kitty flag carrier, blasting chasers with discombobulator rays
lone bear
trinkets are, death ray takes 4 seconds to charge up tho
but ive heard of tasty 4k crits. only had 2k crits tho
might be a engi 300 thing tho
fallow folio
Anyone have any useful macros for a friendly Resto Druid that wants to raid?
zinc fiber
A good startingΒ ratioΒ is 25% protein, 55% carbs and 20% fat
remote lance
Disagree fuck carbs
cold moth
i love to eat protein because otherwise i couldn't eat MASSIVE sausages every morning for breakfast
rapid wind
Well hit 60, blows a ramsey style trumpet
shell rover
Anyone got a powershift macro for kitty DPS?
Also looking for a bear => no form (cast barkskin) => bear form if that's possible
rapid wind
@shell rover Probably better to have a cancelform barskin macro and then either a key to go back to bear or link to some of your "bear" abilities to shapeshift into that form if it's not there. Butthats just me
This is all I use
/cancelform
/cast cat form
for powershift
for me I cast barkskin it takes me out of bear if I am in it (Or any form for that matter) and then if i hit my maul button or my actual bear shift button, back into bear.
rapid wind
I could be wrong but I don't think you can do bear - bark - bear on one key since you would need to differentiate a form when casting bear/bark and you would want to do "both" in that one macro so it would crap out. Unfortunately it can't read past one of those based on if barkskin was on CD or whatever. Would be inefficient anyway I would think.
heady ingot
@wheat hemlock HealComm to see incoming heals (works great with Blizzard's raid frames)
https://github.com/Aviana/HealComm/releases
wheat hemlock
Thanks, will try that when im back from lectures
Seems like just what i was looking for
shell rover
thanks guys
rapid wind
Sure I've tweaked a ton of macros so have a lot of littletips and tricks
rapid wind
In a world pvp scenario, a hunter has such a huge edge over me. LOL. Just had one gank me but then i managed to turn it around and gank him back nicely with some adjustments though he has such an edge in terms of using the environment but it was a solid win for me; will be in mynext video haha
noble forge
Gotta Close the Gap asap
rapid wind
yeah lol or get out of range asap and restealth but what I mean is i was in the furbolg camp
he can essentially use the mobs against anyone with FD
I would have felt bad for him on the last one where he died he had his pet fighting the mob instead of me we kind of at a disadvantage also as he can scatter into a scare beast pretty easy
But he killed me once when Iwas fighting and then waited for me to rez in and shot me immediatly..... so when I actually prepared for a "real" fight and destroyed him it was pretty cool π
can admit he is the firsthunter fight I ever had so it's not like I have a lot to go on π
tall belfry
From what i gather (reading very old vanilla posts), Gnome Death ray trinket deals physical damage and does not miss. So it should do more damage vs low armor targets and should benefit from Physical Damage buffs.
cloud grail
how do I pvp with moonglow build
and why most of my bis have no intellect and favor too much healing spells instead
even spamming rank 3 ht with 250 healing power, i run out of mana around 10k-15k healing done
supple sand
Fellow bears, should I drop skinning and level enchanting for the smoking heart trinket?
fleet timber
Do I want gnomish or goblin engineering?
sand raven
iirc the only good thing from Goblin is goblin sapper charges & you don't need Goblin engie to use them, just make them
rapid wind
the helmet is good
But I do agree with COB that you probably get more out of gnome in the long run. A min maxer would probably get all the goblin stuff then unlearn do it all over and take gnome
though I doubt im gonna dot hat for now
noble forge
@rapid wind nah other way around pretty sure there is no gnomeish consumeable
just stuff which needs gnomeish to craft and need a one time
like deathray or MC cap
and go goblin to craft it without having to buy it in AH
true nova
Hey, does anyone else feel like shred isn't hitting for what it's supposed to? ie rank 4 says 225%+144, and my cat form 'damage' is base of 81 or 90 dps, so it should be hitting for like, 345, but on a same level target i'm only getting like ... 178?
sand raven
armour
true nova
hmm i'll try something squishier than a turtle
lone rapids
Does strength do anything for catform
cursive trench
1str gives 2ap
or 2.4ap with HotW
zinc fiber
why is this channel called classic when none of you forgettable jabronis says anything memorable
cold moth
Hi , I have my druid as an alt in classic, what professions should I grab? Should I get 2 gathering professions, herb and alchemy or skinning and LW?
dense bronze
Depends what will give you the most value as support
noble forge
And how much you wanna optimize alts
Leatherworking/Tailor/alchrmy so have cooldowns they can use for Money If you have high enough Skill engineering is the best Profession in a vacuum
dense bronze
Will depend a lot on your server as well, how much things are farmed and how much they go for on AH
LW doesn't have a lot of high earners outside of devilsaur
dense bronze
It won't be forever
noble forge
Or disenchant
dense bronze
Hard to go wrong with herb/alch if you plan on raiding at least, even if you won't be able to sell a lot (which again depends heavily on your server) it can save you money and will keep on being useful all the way until the end
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
noble forge
But probably will normalize eventually thats true
tall belfry
imo lvl level enchant. get trinket. drop enchant lvl Gnome eng get exclusive bop drop it lvl it up again and end with goblin eng. or keep enchant and go eng as second. have an alt feed the raw mats.
lethal pendant
can i use mongoose elixir and a strength elixir? wowhead doesn't clarify too well on consumables
rapid wind
I believe there isn't a limit on consumables at least potions; not 100% sure on elixir though
dusky kraken
yo Guys, you think that Moonkin is in any way viable once you hit lvl 40? For leveling specific
or is it better to stay feral
have equip for both tho
remote lance
1 flask plus as many elixir as you want
sick crown
anyone has a pawn string for cat for me?
noble forge
@dusky kraken nope
fading panther
Hey friends. Is there a feral bear leveling spec? what about tanking for dungeons? how important are threat talents for tanking leveling up?
nimble kestrel
if you're not a god gamer or don't have good gear for your level I would suggest the threat talents
i wouldn't take furor until you have feral charge
besides that I feel like it's pretty self explanatory going through the feral tree
crude hawk
what's the druid raid healing "niche" for Classic? I'm having trouble figuring it out. If I spam rejuv I go oom super fast. Is it basically just downranked HTs and hope not to get sniped?
nimble kestrel
rejuv only tanks healing touch spam like a yeetbot
crude hawk
oy well now I need 8pc T2 so I can keep the other druids from sniping my tank rejuvs too, then
nimble kestrel
there is a regrowth build but i don't think it's good yet
rejuv is good when you know there's incoming damage though
crude hawk
would imp regrowth be wasted talent points until then?
smoky sparrow
druid healing is basically rank 4 HT
Rejuv isn't worth the mana and only useful in situations where either you don't need the mana or can drink (dungeons) or there's huge damage on tank inc (maexxna for example)
sweet tangle
can i be in a raid group and get credit for
https://classic.wowhead.com/quest=7862/job-opening-guard-captain-of-revantusk-village
?
humble garden
Hey all got a quick question. Is enchanting basically necessary as bear? Since Heart of the Mountain is so good for it?
whole swan
You can just take enchanting at one point, make the trinket and unlearn it
rapid wind
I did it
And it wasn't so bad though I figure that as time goes by it will get more expensive
drifting spade
ey bois
Is there any macro which stealths you from mount?
I tried #showtooltip prowl
/dismount
/cancelform
/cast Cat Form
/cast Prowl
warm portal
I don't think so. I think the dismount counts as a spell and will exit the macro
you have to hit it twice
drifting spade
I'm p much asking for a friend, I have a macro on classic which works exactly how I want it to, IE press it once but I don't have a sub rn so I can't check
warm portal
I am using pretty much the macro that you show (/stand/dismount/cancelform [noform:3]/cast [noform:3]Cat Form/cast !prowl) It does not take me right from mount to prowl. If i am not mounted it does.
drifting spade
hmm
can you try it in game but rather than /dismount
use
/use [mount name]
without the [] and make sure you shift click the mount name into the macro like you wouild a spell
drifting spade
Damn, I really wish I had a sub
Maybe it's an addon I have
But I don't even know if there's any working dismount addons
I know for a fact I only have to hit mines once
Can you guys do my a big favour and install leatrix plus and enable the auto dismount in that and try it then?
@cold moth @warm portal O O
can you two try
warm portal
can't right now - i will later
fathom kayak
Does anyone have a link to a good /cancelform macro guide?
Trying to add the stances to get it to cancelform on second press without also going back in to form but it isn't working
low steeple
so like you're in bear and you want to hit the bear button to get out of bear?
fathom kayak
Yes
low steeple
/cast Bear Form(Shapeshift)```let's you go from say cat to bear and if you're already in bear will just drop bear
fathom kayak
Ok but it doesn't let you in a single press go from cat to bear or bear to cat
low steeple
it did for me
warm portal
/cancelform will take you out of cat and the cast for bearform will take you there
low steeple
yeah I just checked.. if I do one for cat form and one for bear form, it'll switch between the two without going humanoid first
fathom kayak
Is it /cast Cat Form(Shapeshift) for the cat macro?
low steeple
and if I'm already in the form I'm hitting the macro for, it drops the form
yeah
and noform:3
fathom kayak
Oh I'm dense
warm portal
you can also put a use potion in there and it will also use and go right into form. saved my ass a lot with healing potion
fathom kayak
It's the noform thing I didn't change
low steeple
XD
yeah the number has to match the form you're making the macro for
form numbers go from 1-5, left to right on the form bar
low steeple
np happy ot help =D