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whole swan
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Gold will come into game fast when people are 60

covert rover
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dunno

rugged zenith
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i got around 50s doing an incredibly slow RFC

covert rover
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people doesn't have much money then

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and all will be like "omg need epic mount"

celest pagoda
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IMMM IIINNNNN

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bear form activated

covert rover
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haxoring

fierce herald
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Economy will be different to private, node repspawn rates, mobs, higher and more casual population etc

rugged zenith
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I think people underestimating money you got from boe/grey

whole swan
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Yeah just vendor shit if you can solo you make decent gold

rugged zenith
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Just make a group, and tell people to don't loot. So you get all grey

whole swan
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But then theres loads of ways, theres dungeons @60 tank get nothing from. But you can tank them and reserve certain drops and people will be fine with it

fierce herald
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Only good if you have the bag space though

rugged zenith
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"I need silver to buy drinks" is a passable excuses xD

whole swan
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Tank for the orbs, boes and shit. Ez money

flat haven
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I made minor and lesser rejuv pots and sold them for a stack for like 50s

fierce herald
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Damn

rugged zenith
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Hey, is there an addon for aggro already? wa maybe?

whole swan
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threat plates

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is out already i think

covert rover
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yeah. .considering to get alch too

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since it fits well with herbing

rugged zenith
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i really think crafting prof will profit a shit ton soon for people looking for pre-raid bis

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is there like a level limit for crafting?

remote lance
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I would double gather but only sell one of the mats

whole swan
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Think you need level 35 to learn maxx level proff?

remote lance
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And then swap

vague iris
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lvl x 5 i think

whole swan
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Could be slightly off

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Lvl 5 for basic

remote lance
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45?

whole swan
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Need higher to go to 300

remote lance
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45 for unlocking 225-300

whole swan
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Maybe its 45 then, just thought it was 35

rugged zenith
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level 50

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damn

covert rover
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yeah.. need some lvls for them

whole swan
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Actually gonna be harder for people to control economy with all these layers. Surely 1 guild/group cant hoard all the spawns with multiple up at a same time on devilsaurs / black lotus etc

covert rover
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so you don't have small bank alts doing all that work

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you need to lvl them up some to even do it

fierce herald
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are the top groups even leveling proffs? gonna be fucked on BIS if noone else is capable of farming mats or crafting BIS stuff

whole swan
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Its faster to level to 60, then go back and do professions

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They dont wanna waste time on it now

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They can get mount and farm stuff so much faster

remote lance
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And more profitable too

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Getting ahead of the leveling curve is always more important

covert rover
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yeah

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getting less ganked too

molten wren
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hey was wondering how do you find players for pvp and dungeons in classic as u cant queue for them please help thanks if u do ?

remote lance
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Good bait

covert rover
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L4DPS

remote lance
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I'm generous today. That's actually not even good bait

covert rover
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baer - you're always generous

molten wren
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im not actually baiting i didnt play wow classic

covert rover
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that's why we like you

remote lance
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Huge lie

fierce herald
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if you click the meeting stone outside the dungeon, you can queue for LFG

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jk dont do that

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ask in chat

covert rover
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woh - you talk with people, basically

next rock
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So to not kill myself while leveling, what do i start speccing into at level 10? ๐Ÿ˜„

covert rover
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using channels for it .. and talk with the people in the dungeons

whole swan
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Feral tree

flat haven
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whats highest lvl rn?

covert rover
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so you get a group of people that knows that you're nice, don't ninja loot etc

molten wren
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okay thanks man i just wondering as i didnt start playing wow till end of the expan before lich king

covert rover
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probably some method player

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but honestly dunno their lvls

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pretty sure they have streams going on

rugged zenith
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just check method stream

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to see the highest level rn

flat haven
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I guess true

whole swan
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Highest is 42 apparently

covert rover
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woh - it's fine.. overall you relied on social networking in vanilla

whole swan
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Hunter/lock at 41 right now

flat haven
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jesus

vague iris
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not sure,i think method isn't the highest lvl

covert rover
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and blizzard has said they will try to prevent groupfinder addons

whole swan
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But that apes guild apparently all very high level been playing non stop dungeon grinding

vague iris
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there was a lvl 42/42 hunter earlier today

remote lance
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That lock is now a medium speed boi

rugged zenith
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I survived farming islands to get rank 65. I can survive grinding in classic. Who else with me?

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I feel like island expedition is a training camp for me

remote lance
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Not even 70 please

rugged zenith
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nice 5% more stamina bro

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actually pretty strong in pvp

whole swan
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Gave up @ 61

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Bfa grind is dead to me

remote lance
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Lel

whole swan
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Its not even fun anyway it just sucks

coarse mica
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Quick logon before raid on live

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Guess not

flat haven
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"Quick"

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What realm?

coarse mica
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Firemaw

flat haven
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oof

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Just get rid of queues PLEASSSSSSE blizzard

remote lance
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15 hours you are fine

rugged zenith
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4Head

remote lance
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Why are you so entitled?

mental crystal
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just get rid of queues 4Head

flat haven
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all I ask

rugged zenith
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Why is it so hard to fix? just remove the queue blissard 4Head LOOOOOOL

flat haven
fierce herald
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I would take a few days of at-launch lag

remote lance
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Loot bug or riot

fierce herald
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I dont care if looting and handing qs lags to shit if I can play

mental crystal
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imagine not starting the queue in evening and just playing all night without any interruption EZ

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nice cosy nap

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in 5 hour queue

flat haven
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This is the only time I wish I worked nights lol

next rock
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How to get back to Darnassus from Moonglade? ๐Ÿ˜„

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Theres no teleport in classic? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

whole swan
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Can you take the gryphon thing to auberdine?

next rock
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I just hearthstoned

flat haven
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good choice

remote lance
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Griffon flies you back

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It's free too

flat haven
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is everyone here running druid?

remote lance
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You can also try to run through furbog tunnel gl with that

next rock
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Question is if i should get Feral for my sanity or stay true to my Boomkin main

remote lance
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If you are going to play moonkin forever why not play something else while leveling up

next rock
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eh true

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Sanity it is!

whole swan
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Just play feral for the sake of speed

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Its so much faster

remote lance
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Nerf thorns

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Bliz:no removed

covert rover
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quadzz - a fair amount of us are, ye

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also feral is the fun spec

flat haven
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I tried running holy priest, but I have my feral druid as well

covert rover
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hawt leveling spec

flat haven
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I just want my benediction tbh

covert rover
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nice

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40 minutes left of queue

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DCd

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boom

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back to the game!

whole swan
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Fuckkkkkkk

covert rover
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i won't get to play today XD

whole swan
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Makes 2 of us i think, 1 hour till raid and im still 2.6k to go

covert rover
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yea that's not going to happen

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considering just to lvl on a queue less server

remote lance
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4 hour is not bad stop being entitled

covert rover
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since i have 2 accounts

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BUT I NEED MY SLEEP OMG

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i've already been TWOOO HOURS IN QUEUE OMG

remote lance
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Back in my days

covert rover
remote lance
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Fucking millenials

covert rover
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atchually

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i'm older than them

whole swan
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"Just play non full servers"

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

covert rover
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yeah

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ten storms is the only option currently

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and my guess is that one is full with queue tomorrow

whole swan
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Weekend probably gonna be even worse

covert rover
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i'm waiting for them to add 3-4 new servers

whole swan
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With more people playing

covert rover
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yep

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and then pick one of those

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i know serveral that is "waiting it out"

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aka.. first starting in a week or two

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so it's not even all the players that are in yet

balmy spear
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wisle on french pve server

flat haven
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theres more people that are waiting but also how many people are gonna stop playing after a week

whole swan
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I thought alot, but its getting worse

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People i know who said they had no interest and wouldnt play, have been playing non stop

covert rover
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๐Ÿ™‚

whole swan
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rip

covert rover
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going good for my queue

pulsar violet
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can you even play feral not doing pvp?

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i thought all the old raid gear was resto

covert rover
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you can level as a god

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so your first 250 hours will be fun

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you don't use much raid gear

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a bit. .but your best items are from other sources

pulsar violet
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im refering to level 60

covert rover
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and crafted gear were very good back then

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ah.. you confused me with "playing"

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but the latter things i said still holds

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it's ok guys

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i get to play today

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queue timer is with me

vague iris
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everlook?

whole swan
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Only 48 mins. Niiiice

covert rover
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nah.. noggenfogger

whole swan
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Im 2147 yet 84 ๐Ÿ˜„ They just make these fucking numbers up

covert rover
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it depends on the last few drops in queue

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so if last few ones had a steep dropoff then it goes super low

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had it once go down to 16 mins for 4000+

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but it changed before i got to cap that >(

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in reality this queue will last about 3-4 hours

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hm

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4-5 prolly more likely

rugged zenith
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the server capacity is like 10x more than what it was 15 y/o right?

covert rover
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TWELVE MINS LEFT

fluid sigil
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if only

covert rover
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<.<

fluid sigil
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i just had to log out for raid

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guess thats me done for today

covert rover
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pls chips no dumping on my dreams

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did you get in at all? <.<

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unsure if you meant log out of game or queue

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but yeah.. i got a DC in the queue that kicked me out of the queue spot.. so i won't be playing today either

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i need new eu servers so i can play while waiting on the queue with my friends

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they have more spare time than me so it's not affecting them so much. .but i don't think i get to play much from the look of it

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today would have been max 2 hours

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weekends in summerhouse

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10 hours max pr week .. provided queue doesn't get longer

vague iris
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lakeshire is quite empty zokis

covert rover
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that sounds pretty US realm though

whole swan
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That timing though

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And he got put in queue from it

covert rover
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lel

vague iris
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its one of the new ones

covert rover
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but it's on US i take

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it's not on eu

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this is how eu looks

flat haven
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Holy shit

covert rover
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there will come new servers

flat haven
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that looks like aids

vague iris
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zokis, that is us what you posted

covert rover
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that is eu

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how don't you know the names of your country >(

vague iris
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i am on everlook, i don#t look at the other names

covert rover
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there's no firemaw, flamlash, golemage, hydraxiabn waterlords, mograins, noggenfogger, razorgore, shazz etc

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well.. do you see everlook? :<

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that's btw not even all eu servers

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that's just english eu servers

vague iris
mental crystal
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Huh that's wild that there are that many servers that aren't shazzrah

vague iris
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yeah everlook is a german eu server

covert rover
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there's 16 more servers than that list

vague iris
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also lakeshire

mental crystal
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Yikes dead servers inc in a month

whole swan
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200k just waiting to login

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_<

mental crystal
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Wowhead telling me its time for another cosy nap until 2am GoodNightBoye

whole swan
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But it trolls you, you go to sleep and then like server dies so you skip 5k in queue

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Then cause ur asleep u get dced, and ur back to end of queue. GG

mental crystal
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Smol queues in the middle of the night anyeay

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If you get dced then its probs like half an hour max

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Real NEET hours

celest pagoda
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i went to noggenfogger yesterday becuase it was low pop - now its full... why blissard ;_;

fierce herald
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7 hours for a 7k queue

peak cedar
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anyone gonna raid as balance?

covert rover
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goosy will

peak cedar
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cool!

rugged zenith
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it's going to be very fun spamming starfire

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and then auto attack andy

dense bronze
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There is currently only 3 servers who don't have queue in EU and they are all high

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impressive

covert rover
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yep

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they will open new servers

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i bet

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people starting to talk about refunds

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which is pretty early to bitch about etc

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but they do have a point

dense bronze
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refunds? of what?

covert rover
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money for having paid for a service they can't get

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some countries has specific rules in that regard

dense bronze
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You don't pay for classic

noble forge
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you pay for access

covert rover
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that's their way to try to get around it ye

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i'm aware

noble forge
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but you can refund

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anything

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anyway

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for 2 weeks

whole swan
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If it was server problems they would give free days like they used to, but its not

noble forge
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at least in germany

dense bronze
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There are no specific purchase for classic

whole swan
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Its just way to many people wanting to play

noble forge
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for no reason at all

mental crystal
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imagine paying and not using wow tokens

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tragic

covert rover
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finland too has rules about it

whole swan
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Wonder what wow token is at now

covert rover
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if it's part of their services then it need to be accesible

whole swan
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Spiked up real high the other day

noble forge
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to be fair

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people can play

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they can play classic

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just not on the server they want to

mental crystal
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imagine not stocking up on tokens 2 weeks before classic launch

covert rover
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they will probably have a hard time in a court if any actually bother

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but it's only a few days old

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and they still add servers

noble forge
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ye blizz will refund

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if theey ask

covert rover
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i just want to be able to play

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XD

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don't give a shit about the money

mental crystal
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i found a fix(?) to the world server is down shit btw

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logged onto another realm and made a character

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logged on to char, log off

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works blobcatmeltthumbsup

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blizzard server spaghetti is TOO powerful

covert rover
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... lel

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just have to do it before you get out of the queue again

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or.. in

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<imagine livid let me in gif>

balmy spear
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oh fuck

covert rover
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that's rookie numbers

balmy spear
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one of the lesser frenchserver tho

covert rover
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our latest server

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just clicked one of them

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๐Ÿ™‚

balmy spear
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AHAHHAHA

flat haven
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classic is so fun

balmy spear
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but EN server bring more pop

flat haven
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I cant wait to play it

covert rover
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they open new servers before tomorrow for sure

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problem is people try more and more to stay ingame now

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because they don't want to be in these queues

balmy spear
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yeah but i don't want to start again =< i made buddy here ><

covert rover
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making it even worse

balmy spear
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grrr

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angry twoll noise

covert rover
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i'm going to live in queues

balmy spear
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only 66min left

covert rover
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i don't think my guys will move from ours

balmy spear
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ah!

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i added them in Bnet i'll check dem

main marsh
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i wonder if the servers will be playable

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i mean we will be able to log at least

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but with a latency cost?

wintry sage
covert rover
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well

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i mean

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it's a success

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now we justt need a couple more servers

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like.. 6 more

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some smart person brought up the fun fact that weekends probably will be worse

main marsh
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like they fucked up

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early early on

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giving like 3-4

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PvP servers?

covert rover
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2

main marsh
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ppl got their nicks/ "guilds"

covert rover
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english speaking ones

main marsh
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made

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so they dont wanna move after it

covert rover
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and one rp-pvp

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well

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firemaw often have bigger queues than shazz

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and it got made in .. third wave

main marsh
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i wanna come back to shaazz

covert rover
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people did move overall

main marsh
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but its impossible

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if u dont spend your whole life

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in home

near mirage
covert rover
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yeah

near mirage
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They're raising the limits so maybe less queues.

main marsh
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less queues more MS?

covert rover
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a lot less for sure

main marsh
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i guess

covert rover
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substentional increase should help

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i had zero lag

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shit has been running smooth

main marsh
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Shazz was soo laggy yestarday

near mirage
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Hopefully people spread out in the world already.. otherwise 20000 cows in mulgore again.

main marsh
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at least undead zones

covert rover
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this obviously might give some issues later on when layering get removed

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unless they just let more people be in the game overal lthan in the past

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or the dropout is as big as they exspect

near mirage
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might be a big gamble... open more server and have 3/4th of them be dead in a month when the hype settles down, or increase population cap and risk being crowded if everyone actually keeps playing?

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I'd prefer risking the second.. dead realms are not fun at all.

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Personal view, obviously =)

flat haven
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That's the link I meant to post xD

balmy spear
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imagine you're in queue for 2h you finaly get to be in the 10 next and then...BAM! server crash

cold moth
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i feel so fucking stupid

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queueing for the last 8 hrs, still 6 hrs to go it says

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and now no one can say switch server. every EU server has 10k+ queue

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i feel most anger against I cant be in on retail at the same time while queueing

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fuckn pussys blizz

flat haven
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I HATE

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we cant be in retail and in queue

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I understand it

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but like

cold moth
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really what that is, pissing right in our faces us that have been playing retail maybe whole BFA like me

pulsar violet
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ok dude noone is pissing in your face calm down

cold moth
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no but rly

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i am both calm and upset at the same time

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also half the players who are online on a server is actually afk with a n anti afk script

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Cmion blizz, you have no fix for that?

hearty ermine
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stolen from my gchat ๐Ÿ˜„

cold moth
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posteed on ours too literally seconds agho

covert rover
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nah gob

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there's 2 servers without any queues currently

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ten storms and our pure RP server

fierce herald
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Anyone having an issue where system settings are not being saved after closing and launching the game?

main marsh
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so the server thingy

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should be up tomorrow

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i guess

covert rover
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the higher cap oder was?

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valid - only when crashing

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actually closing the game properly and all has been fine for me

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that was yesterday though

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many new bugs can have appeared since then

main marsh
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anti afk kicks from server after 30 min?

covert rover
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tbh i dunno the timer

main marsh
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ok i guess it have to be enough for my dog

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quick walk

covert rover
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SEVERAL SERVERS WITH NO QUEUES OMG

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looks like that hotfix got through

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server queues dropped a fair bit

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or everybody went to bed in thep ast half hour

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thinks

mental crystal
covert rover
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maybe

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maybe not play on the most populated ones :<

mental crystal
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tell that to the 10 or so people im playing with

covert rover
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bh

mental crystal
covert rover
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tbh*

mental crystal
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or

covert rover
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only 4 servers left with stupid queus

mental crystal
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would be playing with

covert rover
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rest is fine

mental crystal
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if it weren't for queues

covert rover
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i've moved 40 people around

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4 times

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it's npnp

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shazz->firemaw->morgraine->noggenfogger

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well.. only moved 3 ponder

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i lie for attention

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sry

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tbh geo

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get friends with a life

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nobody with a job can play on those servers

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unless they're allowed to play at work

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ponder

mental crystal
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whoa

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just jumped

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like 5000 places in shazz queue

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siren IT'S HAPPENING siren

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also tbh

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i'd be doing the same as them

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but i just got cucked by two days of work at launch time

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rest of this week i'm NEETing hard

covert rover
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oh

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yeah

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being able to take time off work really helps here

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i even have to start my char over

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i think i got confused in the middle of the endless server jumps

mental crystal
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one of the guys im playing with has just used up his whole year's vacation days im pretty sure lmao

covert rover
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we booked for 6 servers overall

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yeah

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our warrior booked 4 weeks vacation for this

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he's laning hard with a friend

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but yeah. .in the end i made a male nelf char

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with some odd red color

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and it pisses me off whenever i look at it

mental crystal
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nice

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in 2 xpacs time you'll get a hairdresser

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just be patient

covert rover
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XD

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yeah

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i think i just reroll it

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going to move it to secondary account

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since if i might end up in queues i want my main retail account free

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only used secondary for AH-whoring up to now.. but hum. .these queues has left me a bit tired

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btw about your haxoring for world-server down?

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both of those laning guys had theirs do it

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and they just clicked change server->picked same server again

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and it worked for them <.<

mental crystal
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blizzard spaghetti

covert rover
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yeah

remote lance
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world server down is also vanilla experience

covert rover
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just hit your head hard enough and you'll eventually win

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i agree

remote lance
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how often has that happened so far

covert rover
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it's coming so rare now

mental crystal
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only thought about it because when friend was getting a faction change stuck a GM literally recommended they do that to unstuck it

covert rover
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it's almost depressing

mental crystal
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this was on live btw

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๐Ÿ™ƒ

covert rover
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oh

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geo - oh

mental crystal
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yeah pretty great engine this game has

covert rover
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it's part of the experience

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so tightknit code that you can't even raise the back-pack size because it fucks everything up

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๐Ÿ™‚

lone bear
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well, they still have loads of ground clutter that wasnt in vanilla, but the water and grass is so much better

flat haven
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"server restart in 15:00"

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"server restart in 00:05"

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is classic experience

covert rover
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yeah

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the grass i noticed too

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compltely ruins the immersion that it bends

mental crystal
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oh yeah there's wod grass isn't there

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actually unplayable

covert rover
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yep

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i run through it and it just.. moves to the side

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also it hides shit

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like pine cones

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????

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you can't see things as a herber from miles away

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because there's fucking grass everywhere

tacit atlas
#

Litteraly unplayable

remote lance
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vanilla immersion

lone vigil
#

Skills so expensive

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Skipping Starfall for a long time

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Tanked deadmines, that was fun

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Needed the agi polearm like a doofus

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Forgot that was a big part of 3.0

atomic torrent
#

Does your weapon damageaffect cat/bear form damage? And what about attack speed?

lone bear
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nope and nope but yes

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in classic, the only way to affect damage in cat form is with strength and agility. cant remember if that affects white hits tho. attack speed definitely does

remote lance
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Attack speed on weapon doesnt matter

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Bear is 2.6 cat is 1.0

lone bear
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then why does everyone go for gnomeregan weapon then?

remote lance
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I dont think that is calculated as weapon speed

lone bear
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calculates as damage?

remote lance
#

Or swing speed. Need to look into it

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You can equip two weapons of different speed yourself and seem the swing speed makes no difference

lone bear
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ooh does anyone have the weapon damage tick meter and the energy tick?

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i meant the gnomeregan on use 50% attack speed

remote lance
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I know and that modifies your attack speed which is 2.6 in bear and 1.0 in cat independent of weapon speed

gilded anchor
#

You know what's fun, spending 4 hours in wailing caverns pepekarp

remote lance
#

That's what purists unironically find fun

gilded anchor
#

I had to do the quests

remote lance
#

And I'm ok with it despite not agreeing

gilded anchor
#

That staff reward is huge

lost jolt
#

Does my hit chance in bear form use weapon skill?

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If so which one staff since Iโ€™m using that or unarmed?

lone bear
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think it doesnt use weapon skill

rapid wind
#

how is druid looking in pvp and general pve

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like if i do well and outplay can I beat classes 1v1 ๐Ÿ™‚ Lol

remote lance
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no, it does not use your weapon skill at all

whole swan
#

Yes, druid is a very good 1v1 class

rapid wind
#

Just wish they had given us the better shadowmeld lol

sand raven
#

anyone have a prowl macro?

rapid wind
#

i got this from classic wow site don't have prowl yet

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/cast [nocombat, stance:3, nostealth] Prowl; [nocombat, nostealth] Shadowmeld

weak sphinx
#

Am I a mad man for trying to do feral ๐Ÿ˜ˆ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

remote lance
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good meme

rapid wind
#

So many people are sayng that in classic druids suck in 1v1s but other say they are great at wearing people down and can do well if well played. Had to get a clear thought I guess can just try it and see

maiden current
#

I always heard druids were great in open world 1v1

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Never tried in classic though

noble forge
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ye never heard that druid is bad 1v1

rapid wind
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I guess we shall find out ๐Ÿ™‚ haha

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SO @focus doesn't exist in classic ?

dense bronze
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No

noble forge
#

there are addons which make focus frames I believe

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not sure if you can cast at them tho

rapid wind
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I just wanted one for tank ands tuff but can use names i spose

dense bronze
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You can't Entenzwerg, so there aren't any

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Midian, if its the same person every time its super simple with just a targetย macro
or consider making it a mouseover macro

cold moth
#

I apologise guys, every time I try to run a dungeon the server crashes. I think it's me

tulip kiln
#

Hey, have any of you managed to get a powershift macro to work?

cold moth
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someone had one on youtube but they didnt think to link the macro....

tulip kiln
#

I've also asked this to people in-game and no one seems to get them to work

fierce herald
#
/cast Bear form```
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@tulip kiln

tulip kiln
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@fierce herald nice, thank you very much

vague coral
#

Any one know of a point by point guild for the hotw/ns build

atomic torrent
#

Can vanilla druids use polearms?

near mirage
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Fist, one and two handed maces, polearms, staves, and daggers

vague iris
#

aren't polearms wotlk for druide?

near mirage
vague iris
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and its in the comments that druids can't use them till wotlk

near mirage
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let's set Wowhead on fire then.

vague iris
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where are the server? I prepare the molotovs

near mirage
#

as they push guides that are wrong >.<

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interesting that other random lists on internet for Classic do have them added as well.

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Either they all copied from the same wrong source, or Blizz did a nice and granted us the pointy end.

vague iris
#

Patch Changes After Classic

 Patch 3.2.0: Rogue players could learn One-Handed Axes.
 Patch 4.0.1: Weapon skill was removed. As a result, all weapon proficiencies that a class can learn became available from the start.
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they don't have polearms in the patch changes after classic a aswel

near mirage
#

I'm not even close to 20 so I can't go check. lol. Queues and RL haven't been kind.

vague iris
#

14

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for me

near mirage
#
  1. yay bear form.
rapid wind
#

Much more difficult to switch forms and cast and stuff

rapid wind
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Got bear set up and working ok with out of form casts working and a power shift, now i need another form to ensure that the shared keys work and my shift between forms does also ๐Ÿ™‚

main marsh
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:)

fierce herald
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Ill check today, im like a couple bars from 20 when I get on :/ Had the same issue with all the guides and info online saying druid could use polearms but specific people in /trade saying they where very sure they could not

remote lance
#

They cant

next rock
#

cant use mailbox while in bear form

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game is unplayable

fierce herald
#

classic experience intensifies

lone vigil
#

My classic experience as a cat in the 20s, pressing tigers fury every 6 seconds since white hits are most of my damage

#

Getting more efficient to grind

#

Furor and wolfshead helm stack somewhat in 1.13 right?

fierce herald
#

yes they stack, and also stack obv with the energy refresh tick

lone vigil
#

If only shifting wasn't so Mana intensive, even with a 30% reduction

coarse mica
#

I heard there was an addon for stuff like this. Automatically shifting out of bear form when you cast stuff

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does anyone know about this?

fierce herald
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make cancel aura macros

noble forge
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^ something like
/cancelaura bear form /cast Regrowth or something should work

coarse mica
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cba making it for everything

rapid wind
#

I got this now for almost all of my casted spells

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/stand
/dismount
/cancelform [noform:5]
/cast [@player] Healing Touch

coarse mica
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Because I also wanna use vuhdo and I really don't wanna use macros in that

rapid wind
#

SO far so good just a massive amount of keybinds for this haha

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i wish they woulda let us keep the stacking of retail lol

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highly recommend some heal/harms

noble forge
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so ping /cancelaura

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*bind

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and just press that

honest laurel
#

does harm/heal macros work in classic?

rapid wind
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they do

young latch
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its harm and help

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i believe

wintry sage
#

What about like mouse over macros, do they work?

young latch
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yes

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focus macros dont tho

wintry sage
#

Perfect, thanks ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ‘

rapid wind
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sorry wasn't meaning it as how it was in the actual macros that's just what I call it lol

young latch
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sweet just like to make sure everyone is as infrormed as possible

rapid wind
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I get it ๐Ÿ™‚

honest laurel
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oh yea, help obv ๐Ÿ˜›

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is it only worth to spec into resto at max lvl?

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if u wanna heal 5mans

young latch
#

bear is worth too

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bear is very viable in 5mans

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and is semi usefull as an offtank in raids

honest laurel
#

yea i know, never liked the idea of tanking though

young latch
#

sweet just showing you your options

rapid wind
#

Well one thing is if you do 5 mans and the tank dies you can immediately save the day

honest laurel
#

yea druid is very hybrid in that way

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cus ive got a party with a bear tank, me, paladin, lock

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was just wondering when its worth to spec into resto rather than feral

young latch
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at 60 @honest laurel

rapid wind
#

I am enjoying setting him up... was going to be a sad panda if i couldn't get instant no form casts but with a bit of research it's all good ๐Ÿ™‚

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Just hvae to find a bind for all the good shit

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one immediate tip you gotta like really do as much as possible between shifts lol

honest laurel
#

yeah, the mana cost is huge xd

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i love the bfa resto druid playstyle in m+/2s

remote lance
#

wtb bearcat from cataclysm

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so good that blizzard detected fun and split the trees

honest laurel
#

haha

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legion resto druid with bear cape and boomkin shoulders, moonfire spam

remote lance
#

yeah, resto druids in legion and BFA are basically a hybrid's dream as well, but are balancing nightmares

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same with cata bears, especially in 10man because getting an extra dps when he doesn't need to tank is such a bigger deal compared to 25

rapid wind
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so in classic what's the optimal sorta healing thing.. regrowth or healing touch.. with a bit of rejuv lol. .. i finally got all 3 now no clue on when to use what ๐Ÿ™‚

remote lance
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you rej+ regrowth yourself between mobs/packs. For group healing you just use rej and HT. In raid you just spam rank 4 HT and get sniped by other healers with more efficient AND faster heals

rapid wind
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for pvp ?

remote lance
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for pvp you'll regrowth a lot since casting HT is asking to be interrupted. Rej works but you can expect it to be purged/dispelled always

light plover
proven lion
#

Any big pointers for being a bear tank in classic?

light plover
#

probably wowhead classic guides

proven lion
#

thank you

light plover
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have fun

cold moth
#

I'm gonna be a bear too

rugged zenith
#

I don't except playing around weapon swing and mp5 could be this fun

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Being able to pop a moonfire right after a weapon swing, feels good

proven lion
#

Its very aggravating not being able to do half my abilities im used to doing in bear form, in bear form lol

cold moth
#

I did an rfc the threat sucked though. I saw some talents for threat so hopefully it gets better

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Had a rogue who wouldn't attack skull

rugged zenith
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It's not threat sucks, dps isn't used to how aggro work in classic

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warlock popping all dots on tank 1st auto attack swing and complain "why i got aggro"

limber hollow
#

Anyone who's played with skittish knows how aggro works in classic

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but tanks don't have all the tools they have in later games to handle said threat

young latch
#

skittish isnt anywhere close to threat in classic

#

threat in classic is heaps heaps lower

rugged zenith
#

Threat is more dps issue in classic i feel like. While tank job is being able to do a lot of dps while still being tanky

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Actually add healer issue too, i popped my healing touch once and mob looked at me as if i had killed their family -_-

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Druid healing does have aggro issue though, are we the only one that have talent that reduce aggro from healing abilities?

cold moth
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Yeah I had a rogue keep attacking the non skull and getting aggro. And 3 dps going for 3 different mobs just as I had pulled. And it takes me a little to get enough rage to maul but they go ham immediately

rugged zenith
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i just wait 5s most of the time

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A good tank would also able to start a gaining aggro on other mob when 1st mob has had enough aggro so that the time tank lose aggro on that mob, that mob would already dead anyway.

cold moth
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Lol they all streaked straight away

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Started*

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Yeah but the dps were all focusibg different mobs

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I'll try to get a guild run going tomorrow that might be easier

royal fossil
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just pop challenging roar lol

cold moth
#

I'm only low level, hopefully gonna be more fun later. Although i still had fun in rfc

noble forge
#

however a dps pulling aggro isnt actually a big deael

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at least in low level dungeons

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and at times actually good for you

hoary falcon
#

lvl 14 atm and finding it pretty annoying without cat form. Is this a popular opinion?

lunar viper
#

Yeah rogues can evasion tank and Parry a lot of stuff due to 10% parry. Other classes my be harder but rogues getting agro isn't worst

rugged zenith
#

Yes, without cat form. Auto attacking feel incredibly awful

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once you have cat form, you'll notice the trend of spending mana -> stay in cat form until full mana -> spend mana again, repeat

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actually make thing 2x faster

lunar viper
#

Yes biglett druids pretty known for being slow til 20s

hoary falcon
#

alrighty cool, thats what I thought but wanted to check

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thanks

rugged zenith
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Weapon damage doesn't affect cat form btw,

hoary falcon
#

at all? like does attack speed mater or anything

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I usually heal and havent really looked into cat lagistics

remote lance
#

only thing that matter on weapon are stats (including armor if any) and any use/procs that actually work (for example, pummeler)

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weapon dps and speed don't matter at all

dense bronze
#

On use works, chance on hit procs does not

ionic forum
#

wait what even weapon damage/dps doesnt matter?

near mirage
#

nope.

ionic forum
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yeepers

near mirage
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until waaay later when feral attack power based on dps was added.

vague iris
#

so we want statsticks?

near mirage
#

correct.

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on use, and stat sticks.

vague iris
#

sigh

ionic forum
#

all those high dps / low stat items with a on hit wont be useful at all huh, shame

vague iris
#

but we can't use them during feral form?

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so we have to switch out, use, switch back?

near mirage
#

Lovely isn't it? =P

ionic forum
#

if forms didnt cost a fortune, yes :p

lone vigil
#

Alliance has a nice armor off hand with a 1% proc when you get hit

near mirage
#

I'm writing a macro to form-aware single GCD war stomp in one key.

lone vigil
#

Got that beauty last night

ionic forum
#

I must say Im enjoying playing a casterhealerbearcat in dungeons and not being locked to 1 role

near mirage
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just cause Blizz gave us all the limitations of future WoW, but none of the "oh then we'll let you auto-unshift" -.-

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so I can't use CastShapeshiftForm >.<

lone vigil
#

Oh yeah, dps'd stockades at topping groups off between pulls was great

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Druid levelling really picked up around 24 for me

vague iris
#

you can link every spell with a cancel macro?

near mirage
#

you can, it's just annoying.

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and for some things, it's not as smooth as just auto-unshift when you cast.

vague iris
#

is there a way to always use the highest lvl of your lvl?

near mirage
#

macro without rank number will always cast highest.

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or don't forget to drag spells back in your bar after learning =P

vague iris
#

lvled from 1-17 with rank 1 wrath ;D

lone vigil
#

feral skills automatically rank up

vague iris
#

so cat/bear skills will always be highest lvl - only spells from balance/resto needs to be exchanged?

lone vigil
#

at least it was for me

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cause honestly, there's 0 reason to ever downrank a feral skill

rugged zenith
#

Downrank only used to conserve mana, and only wanting it's effect (ie, rank 1 frostshock/frostbolt for it's slow, rank 1 dots to keep rogue out of stealth, etc etc)

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I think hots also can be used to pad purges

sand raven
#

12 AP or 4 agi 4 spirit weapon?

near mirage
#

Attack skills are replaced by the game when learning a new rank. Only spells have multiple active ranks.

lone vigil
#

4 agi is only 4 feral AP

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I'd generally say you'd get more value from 12ap

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especially in bear

rapid wind
#

This thread is a great so I will share it

vague iris
#

thx

fierce herald
#

so... no cat form feral charge in classic hu?

remote lance
#

nop

mint tide
#

what is the addon called for druids in classic when i go in bear/cat form i can see my mana @everyone

light plover
#

isn't that an option in the default interface?

brave pulsar
#

State of druid in classic?

hearty ermine
#

Tomorrow at 09:00 CEST, we will open two new WoW Classic Realms in this region:

Bloodfang PvP English
Judgement PvP English

We strongly encourage players who wish to avoid extended queues on crowded PvP realms to plan to move to one of these two new realms. We expect these new realms to have a population base that is easily sufficient to long support a healthy PvP realm community.

Thank you!

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EU

rapid wind
#

I use luna unit frames and it has an awesome druid mana bar

tidal pond
#

was the vanilla dudu able to use 2h mace?

whole swan
#

ye

tidal pond
#

i have to learn to some train master? i didn't remember too many ages

whole swan
#

Might have to go to some city to learn it, i cant remember which

tidal pond
#

ok tyvm!

lone vigil
#

If for alliance

#

Can do fists there too

#

Is tiger's fury really my best use of energy?

#

It feels like it

near mirage
#

Does anyone know of a working crafting window replacement addon? Advanced Tradeskill Window (old from back then) does not work with the new UI, and Skillet does not work with the old recipes. >.<

wild marlin
#

what classes have kick

#

its just rogue and warrior right

whole swan
#

shammy

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mage if you count counterspell

near mirage
#

I don't think shaman has kick? O.o it's windshear or something.

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unless you just mean "interrupt"

whole swan
#

earth shock interupted didnt it

remote lance
#

yes, earth shock

#

and IT GENERATES HIGH AMOUNT OF THREAT

#

pummel, kick, earthshock, counterspell

#

shield bash for prot warriors i think?

wild marlin
#

yea

#

shield bash does

noble forge
#

Feral Charge too i think?

near mirage
#

yeah, but have to be at least 8 yards away, so less reliable.

wild marlin
#

if a mob resists my hoj one more time

#

im gonna go off the rails

remote lance
#

well i think you'll go off the rails pretty soon

#

5% is pretty high

meager forge
#

any other feral players notice that when you go into cat form the speed isnt consistent? i have 2 points into Feline swiftness

fallen yarrow
#

feline swift doesn't work in some spots (indoors?)

#

have to powershift outdoors to get speed refreshed

#

I think?

meager forge
#

ohh

#

that would make sense actually

#

oh wait

#

i have no reading comprehension. "while outdoors in cat form"

#

isadfhodsfg

fallen yarrow
#

yeah, but it doesn't refresh automatically going outside

#

is like travelform has to be refreshed in retail if you get out of combat

meager forge
#

feelsbadman

amber bear
#

hey dumb question about classic servers but whats the big server people are going for like the illidan of classic for raiding

near mirage
#

I guess you'll have to wait next week to know that, now they're all a toss with people changing over because of the queues.

#

At least, I think.

amber bear
#

gotcha

near mirage
#

Herod and Whitemane are full instantly every time.

amber bear
#

just dont want to level sometrhing up and then find ut im in the wrong server and gotta do it again

carmine kindle
#

Only thing I don't like about NE druids . The male cast animation

lone vigil
#

Feline swiftness will activate without reshifting

#

Takes a couple seconds

#

But yeah, only works outdoors

remote lance
#

could be worse, you could be ghost wolf

#

lol cast time and outdoors onyl

lone vigil
#

Shamans talent into it

#

Instant ghost wolf is mandatory

near mirage
#

anything that makes anything related to wolves better must be priority nods

#

=P

distant vault
#

was druid really strong for pvp & pve in classic ? I dont remember. Im trying to figure out what i want to duo with my friend rogue in term of pvp & pve.

sleek shale
#

The male NE cast animation is awesome, your character dabs on 'em!

knotty hornet
#

Druid is good for 1v1 PVP and decent in PVE

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@distant vault

rugged zenith
#

kitty in 1v1 is really good, check sodapoppin. Also quite decent in dungeon because how versatile we're. In raid, innervate and bress is quite good, but not really worth a raid spot.

#

Eh, i think 1 druid in a raid should be normal thing.

cold moth
#

I'd take one feral for lotp

covert rover
#

Only the group that gets it. Not raid wide

cold moth
#

ohh

#

Ofc I forgot

balmy spear
#

At which level do we gain the cats and bear form?

mental crystal
#

10/20

#

bear/cat

main marsh
#

When dhs gettings wings?

balmy spear
#

Worr

#

Worf

drifting spade
#

So for classic is there any way to have the game treat forms the way it does in retail

young latch
#

you need to bind a cancle aura macro

#

so you can cancel your forms

drifting spade
#

IE cast cat from bear, bear to cat, etc. I know I can use
/cancelform
/Cast Cat Form

But if I want to simply come out of catform to no form that puts me back into cat form

near mirage
#

it's a special kind of hell where we have the limitations of BC scripting (CastShapeshiftForm is protected), but without the QoL improvements (autounshift) =\

#

they should have left it as either 1.12 or modern, not halfway with broken results (imho)

cold moth
#

Do you mean powershifting?

mint tide
#

whats the addon called when i am in a form i see my mana?

drifting spade
#

it's instant download

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but when ur in bear and cat n shit that shows mana

mint tide
#

thx

fresh umbra
#

90% of my classic experience ๐Ÿ‘Œ

young latch
#

just dont be so focused on playing on a pvp server

#

its not nessiccary

#

and most pve servrs dont have queues

fresh umbra
#

my concern is that mid realms die after hype ended

mental crystal
#

imagine posting a screenshot of a 200 queue

fresh umbra
main marsh
#

LOL imagine playing classic on pve server

#

Big life mistake

young latch
#

why is that a big life mistake

#

the literal only difference is epeen @main marsh

main marsh
#

Cuz u skip or miss 70% of classic fun

#

By playing vs mobs only

frigid robin
#

think that's pretty subjective

young latch
#

70% of YOUR classic fun

#

you are pushing your feelings onto me

frigid robin
#

im sure a lot of people don't find pvp fun

main marsh
#

That's just sad

knotty folio
#

hey guys i'm stuck on what to do, on Retail Boomkin is my main and i want to do the same on classic but everywhere i look guides are telling me Boomkin are the worst dps is this true

main marsh
sharp tiger
#

Wait how are you not doing the exact same thing though @young latch

#

?

main marsh
young latch
#

"LOL imagine playing classic on pve server
Big life mistake" is different to saying that most pve servers dont have queues and to use them if the queues are really bothering you

#

mine is a suggestion his is more of YOUR DUMB IF YOU DO THIS THING

sharp tiger
#

I don't see much difference between that and telling them to just stop being focussed on the server type you want to play on it's not necessary

#

One of them looks like a semi meme hyperbolic joke

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The other is a patronising "lmao u deserve it for picking wrong server type"

balmy spear
#

@fresh umbra amateur

#

@young latch I don't even know what's the use of PvP server ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

static swan
#

are there any guides for anything other than resto? feral or feral tank?

quaint fossil
#

wowhead probably has something

limber hollow
#

I've yet to encounter any meaningful queues on pve servers

near mirage
#

The best part is that a quite large population of the pvp servers are just there to complain about getting ganked while questing, then raiding just the same as a pve realm. =) lol.

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I'm on Mankrik, because I found my wife playing WoW, so it just felt the right kind of homage to Classic =P so pve it is.

balmy spear
#

I got 50min on auberdine

little yoke
#

Is it worth buying Shre and Rake?

#

For Feral Druid

main marsh
#

Shred yes, rake nope

little yoke
#

K danke

#

And Tiger's Fury is good?

covert rover
#

Itโ€™s energy you do like that

little yoke
#

I mean, it uses 30 energy for 10 dmg for 6 sec

#

@covert rover

main marsh
#

its not energy in classic XD

#

its 10 % dmg

#

for 6sec

#

if iam right

#

its garbanzo

covert rover
#

Oh ye

#

Lel

royal fossil
#

pretty op

upbeat knot
#

Hey is there a feral build I can follow

balmy spear
#

Was there glyph in vanilla?

sick merlin
#

No

#

Seems pretty good

remote lance
#

thanks for reminding me how terrible bear forms, especially NE ones, looked

sick merlin
#

Lol

remote lance
#

how long did it take us to get them to close their mouths?

sick merlin
#

I actually really like the legion bear forms

#

Even though they look like a homunculus

low steeple
#

@remote lance was it cata?

remote lance
#

i don't remember. I never had to play with another bear in raids to look at their open mouths

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blessed

sick merlin
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Even druids hate druids :(

balmy spear
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@remote lance ๐Ÿคข

grave notch
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my battlenet client is on a constant cycle of updating it goes Initializing -> Fetching -> Initializing, the numbeers are always the same what do i do? already tried restarting client

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for classic ofc

balmy spear
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Un plug rรฉ plug

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Re

young latch
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Re install all the things

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Wipe all blizzard data from your pc and reinstall

upbeat knot
young latch
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Tbh tho just do a restart of your pc to start with

dense bronze
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@sick merlin I can't say I would agree with the talents picked in that guide
first of all the first section is different recommendation from the timeline which is rather.. odd

grave notch
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already tried restarting, and deleting the client cache hasn't fixed it

dense bronze
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Have you tried reparing?

grave notch
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i didn't try repairing, was going to do that next. but i fixed it after a complete reinstall of the battlenet client

rugged zenith
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Starfire crit, tank lose aggro in an instant. Now i can see why they implement mp5 mechanic.

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so that casters can get mana when accidentally doing too much damage

remote lance
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It's the game calling you to be a tank

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Dont resist

rugged zenith
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30 min cd bress. Yikers

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i thought it was 15min and reinc was 30min. Guess my memory is wrong

remote lance
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Nope 30 and 60

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Hour cds are cool

rugged zenith
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2x longer

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2?

remote lance
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60 CD for incarn

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Pretty sure there set bonus that reduce it

sick merlin
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@dense bronze what's wrong with the talents seems like a pretty normal questing/dungeon spec

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Also nice for pvp

rugged zenith
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you should get omen asap imo.

sick merlin
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@rugged zenith personally I'd much rather have +30% speed in catform first

rugged zenith
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True, but only useful for 5 level because you'll get travel form on 30

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still, really useful for kiting.

sick merlin
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Yeah so much running

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Omen of clarity is op though

rugged zenith
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The proc rate is higher than i expected

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i had it proc twice in less than 30s

sick merlin
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Is travel form at 30?

rugged zenith
remote lance
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Yea

rugged zenith
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Getting free healing touch... holy shiz

sick merlin
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Im still only 18, considering if I should run to westfall for sea lion form

remote lance
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Not unless you will level there

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Aquatic form is useless until lava meme

zinc shale
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Leveling as a druid is for pure masochists from 1-20

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It's so painful

sick merlin
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Once you get bear form it's not too bad

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You can kill 2 mobs at once

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Heal and move on

zinc shale
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If you aren't careful

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I tried it and my luck is shit because of the pushback

sick merlin
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True, that stupid fucking furblog Dan in teldrassil always gets me killed

rugged zenith
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Wrath wrath root moonfire, wait mp5

sick merlin
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Den*

rugged zenith
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wait mob get close, moonfire, auto attack

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actually auto attack then instantly moonfire after 1st swing, so you don't waste it

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i think you stop auto attacking for 1.5s whenever you cast a damage/healing spell.

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"weaving" in instant cast right after an auto attack swing is great

zinc shale
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Swing timer

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Helps me out

sick merlin
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What's the add-on to show Mana?

rugged zenith
sick merlin
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In forms

rugged zenith
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it have the mp5 timer on it, it default on not having the number on the timer and just that small white bar, you can easily change it.

sick merlin
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Ty

rugged zenith
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yo wtf, why do i need some stupid ass wool cloth to make leather pants

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i just sold all my wool

remote lance
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rekt

zinc shale
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I got shadowed unit frames to show me

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I'm trying as best as I can on not giving up

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I want to be the best resto druid in the guild I'm in