ah ok
#pvp
tribal kernel
shy plaza
ideally, do you want a 5pt rip?
knotty harbor
playing resto druid w/ feral affinity a legit spec for world pvp? I'll play solo so no friends to heal, just self-healz
open verge
@shy plaza it does the same dps, it's only a matter of the uptime
rich crag
@knotty harbor It's currently very legit though I expect at least to a certain extent that it might not be as good once SL hits simply because at some point once people start to get gear and other self heal stuff; it won't be as easy to whittle people down as much....
knotty harbor
Thanks @rich crag , another question, which would be better, resto with feral aff using feral gear or resto gear? For 1v1 btw
rich crag
I use my resto gear with the dps trinkets (claw, the voodoo totem)
I am no pro much more experienced in feral 1v1s but the resto one is kinda neat to play around with since you have such a ton of survivability. Of course it's prepatch atm so its still easy to die haha
Take master shapeshifter and HOTW for some really surprising punching power
patent dove
as resto, use resto gear. intellect is converted into attack power as resto, so you do not need agility. also, resto doesn't really benefit from feral azerite, so you can just take stat-traits and deal more damage effectively. make sure to use obsidian claw
also, agility simply has no effect for resto druid
knotty harbor
Thanks bakadhi. Also, is this (playing resto w feral aff as dps in wPvp) just cheese or like real legit? Keep in mind that Ill never heal in pve (friend is a healer, not interested in it anyways) or if I want to pvp should I just go regular feral?
exotic wolf
are there any news on resto covenants come SL? We are not so far from release..
Last I knew was that Necro was the way to go for pvp.
Is this still the case?
I couldn't follow the beta changes in the last weeks.
patent dove
@knotty harbor feral druids can deal more damage and that more consistently than resto druid. They also have greater burst damage. If you are not interested in healing anyone in pvp but want to play cat form, you most likely should give feral a try, regardless of how strong it is
rich crag
Yeah what bakhadi said is pretty accurate lol.
Also with the right talents now feral can do some pretty good healing (Notably, HOTW, resto affinity and I recently learned Strength of the Wild is awesome for spot burst heals on your teammates)
polar nymph
Gotta love Cyclone not taking up a PvP talent slot anymore
royal siren
forest kite
Gotta love Cyclone not taking up a PvP talent slot anymore
@polar nymph so agree ๐
dim heron
how is boomy for arena and rbg?
lime light
yes
exotic wolf
no restos in here? ๐ฆ
exotic wolf
river egret
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq0PEdtrArI&ab_channel=Vego%26Bego lmao whaazz almost said the n word
lime light
woho amazing
obtuse ice
XD
heavy cairn
For stats for Rdruid how much mastery should I get? I feel like vers is pretty competitive for healing plus the defensive and offensive stat ofc
forest kite
@patent dove Iโm still learning Druid but as feral I just feel super weak
Whereas as resto 1v1 I feel unkillable with lots of burst with hotw and feral aff
open verge
thats prepatch
forest kite
The sustain for feral with resto aff is just not there
Well I imagine resto will be even better in SL
open verge
you wont get feral burst as resto
open verge
with hotw perhaps its strong, got any clips?
but that's 5m cd and even then its not the same lvl
yeah you could reduce the cd with conduits, or wear the hotw leg
open verge
you like it more over ff?
open verge
I feel like bt slows down your burst
lime light
cuz jungle mirrors were super fast
and only thing that matters
was a drest breath
and few more combo points to maim were usefull
open verge
it was shit last time I checked on the beta
but I guess they changed shaman quite a lot
open verge
I mean I faced them, havent played it myself
it was the worst healer
maybe you're bad and lose to them for no reason
:>
lime light
oki ๐
open verge
youre also playing on prepatch not beta, right?
open verge
so what do you find strong about resto shamans, what covenant are you using?
soft fjord
Without Tiger Fury leggo and Cov ability does a feral even do real dmg outside of Zerk...?
lime light
u swapped from rogue or whats up
last time shred did some dmg, was a incarn shred in legion
before nerfs
soft fjord
wish shred did its crap base dmg but also beld
bled
brutal is just like this weird thing I dont want in pvp but have no choice lol
open verge
Im not a fan of slash either, its shit
rich crag
I think one of the main reasons for not liking slash is simply because there should be something more lucrative of functional then simply an aoe version of shred with a bit less energy. It's underwhelming.
grand snow
anyone have a good resto druid ui?
feral urchin
leaden lantern
Bite deal so hard, feral is S tier atm. Hope we'll stay fine for sl, i think so
leaden lantern
2200 with a DP ungeared as me (12k HP). were are bothe alt, ofc we got somes loot after this
yep
obtuse ice
Baguette
leaden lantern
i'm not a main, same for DP, and we got this with 2 day of playing, so S for me
obtuse ice
Says you are 0 rating ATM
leaden lantern
Its what i said Uh
never said smth diff
@obtuse ice idk why, only my main's cr is refresh right
tardy hare
I dont really think you're undergeared eithter
current arena is really not any base for putting any class in a tier
leaden lantern
because arena give me some gear now, i was ungeared. My matchs are mostly 20k HP vs 17 at this elo
tardy hare
isnt 90% of them still double dps?
leaden lantern
mostly 30% now i think
obtuse ice
He is french don't listen to him 
leaden lantern
but below 2k 70% y
obtuse ice
ty
knotty harbor
which scales better with gear, balance, feral or sub rogue?
obtuse ice
PUmping aren't I
heady geyser
๐ค
tiny oar
@obtuse ice get that bread
tiny oar
@upbeat sequoia prolly cuz no one rly cares what sum duelist alt druid thinks about the stat of feral. Sry if it comes off as harsh but like I got to 2655 cr in 3s last season and I'll be the first to admit I'm a donkey trashcan who knows nothing about this game. Wouldn't presume to call something S tier after 10 arena games at 1800 mmr, it's just meaningless.
Only advice/ suggestions I would take from ppl in here would be from Fuji/formy/glyph cuz they're actual gamers. Tian/ele for feral specific stuff.
It's prepatch every dps is busted just wait til slands for everything to settle.
sinful lance
what considered bis for resto pvp in terms of covenant
tiny oar
Necrolord @sinful lance adaptive swarm and fleshcraft bis
fallen scarab
anyone know how resto druid does with hunter/warrior :3
tiny oar
Rdruid synergies with almost everything in 2s, those 2 comps are fine @fallen scarab
tiny oar
Oh yea prolly not the best
stray sigil
convince ur hunter to go sp/lock/mage lol
lime light
@obtuse ice they are stuck in placement games, as he said playing for 2 days, farming apes with also placements or 1.8k mmr players
There is no season, so they are stuck there forever
U can go for like 500:0 win/lose ratio in this case
smoky sail
languid knot
Whats looking best Covent for feral pvp?
lime light
all of them looks good at some point
cuz of the main spell u get, or a talents u can add in a talent tree
but rn it seems kyrian>night fae
they changed something about Valiant strike
not sure what
languid knot
I'm feeling kyrian because it buff partner aswell. So double the damage. Where nightmare fae is alot more bust damage but is easily countered with a stun
lime light
but if it still works like used to
it heals for a lot
+the poison/bleed remover
when u drink a potion
i could see it like that
Kyrian isnt easly countered by a stun
compared to necro that is a magic debuff and can be dispeled easly
or venthyr that u mostly have to line up with a zerker so that does anything
imo kyrian is the safest pick
biggest rng night fae by far
u can possibly one shot ppl, with good rng and if no one interrupts u
lime light
if nothing changes me too
maybe i will try night fae on alt
tho
but rly dont like night fae talent trees tho
tulip falcon
oh necro ability is dispelable? rip
lime light
it used to be, but now i checked wowhead
its no more magic there
and i cant log to the beta
open verge
im debating nf over kyrian
lime light
night fae talents looks trash on paper
open verge
im 90% sure it's far less consistent
lime light
full cast of night fae with good rng can win a game
open verge
yeah but sometimes vs good players there's no way for you to set it up even
open verge
shaman groups will definitely be harder to set up for
lime light
there is too many small anoying cc in the game
like spam fear
coils
and other shit
night fae will be stronger for 2s
for sure
open verge
but kyrian, something about not being able to utilize it alone feels eh
open verge
oh you can?!
lime light
havent tested it myself, but i think Fore said it
tulip falcon
yeah you can
obtuse ice
What's kyrian tred
lime light
cuz someone else gets a dmg also
not only u
u and the other dps gets dmg
if u connect with yourself
only u get the damage
open verge
I guess I gotta read up on how that works
tulip falcon
seems extra af
open verge
oh, so that's how it works, basically if you just buff them and do nothing they get nothing
you gotta build it up so they can make use of it
open verge
yeah, but you only build up during empowerment, right?
open verge
we dont
tulip falcon
from what im looking at on more recent videos i dont see any mention of this pool
it looks like just a cd
open verge
yeah im gonna jump on the beta and see how it works
tulip falcon
i haven't touched beta yet probably should
open verge
I dont see the conduit you speak of
lime light
honestly i cant see a way to die
with all this shit
and guardian affinity
lmao
if they balance it ofc
cuz rn some abilites still hits for more then your hp pool
tulip falcon
i dont expect any of this to be balanced in the slightest
tulip falcon
did they ever revisit pve trinkets after admitting they were broken ages ago?
open verge
aint nobody got time for that
lime light
dont think so
tulip falcon
they literally said that they weren't tuned and this was like a month+ ago
surprised they haven't done anything yet in that case
open verge
maybe they expect them to either balance it when they find time
or just slap a hard nerf on it /disable
lime light
imo removing pve trinkets isnt a good idea, let them be, but worst then pvp ones
so they would have to nerf it by like 80%
or so
hazy shale
what happen with necrolords for feral?
open verge
okay if you bond with yourself you just get a 15% buff
lime light
dream is over, we are bite spammers again @hazy shale
open verge
I mean why do you think bites is not the way to go. It's preferable for pvp
big bursts
hazy shale
its too much dmg no to play around that?
open verge
it wasnt a bleed spec in bfa and its not gonna be one in sl ;d
tulip falcon
feral has been most enjoyable for me when it's emphasis has been on dot damage
lime light
and it changed a lot in bfa
tulip falcon
it made it somewhat unique to play
lime light
in legion it was almost perfect, bleeds were big, bites were too
but we had no clone
the biggest legion issue
tulip falcon
ye legion feral was actually really fun, especially after what happened to it in wod
lime light
imo with the gear we will get
and everything
in pve necrowill be rly strong
so bleed build
and it might be viable for pvp at some point
tulip falcon
I mean the necrolord shield also looks like it'd be pretty damn good in PvP
assuming they didn't change it since i last checked
hazy shale
for healers its so good
open verge
I wouldnt say its that good
hazy shale
the inmune for rogues
tulip falcon
with the soulbind that gives cc immunity?
lime light
idk
dont think so its that good
but might be wrong
depends how fast the meta is
but for healers
its super good
tulip falcon
depends on the absorb amount as well with all the gear etc
cc immunity is useless if it breaks in 2 seconds
open verge
the health bonus is nothing
lime light
ye it gives u immunity, but u put almost all your talent shit
into one trick pony shield
open verge
its all about the immunity
lime light
that might let u immunite something or not
lime light
the ozzee is good tho
open verge
the only usage of this is if you bigbrain prefleshcraft blind or something
lime light
i have to agree
open verge
ooze's healing adds up
lime light
idk we will see
open verge
does Podtender even work in pvp?
tulip falcon
im really losing the will to play shadowlands before its even out which has never been the case before
tulip falcon
i've just seen a lot of issues that i would've hoped would be fixed before launch
well
people have said that after many previous expansions
it can't be worse than WoD
It can't be worse than legion
A lot of people didn't like cata/mop at the time even.
open verge
I agree
in hindsight we can say more obviously
I just think they have some decent ideas, the question is, how will they botch it
tulip falcon
I just have a bad feeling about it when I'm usually optimistic about expansions before launch
open verge
im mostly worried that you cant really pvp to pvp
im not a fan of soulshape for nf, especially since it also takes you out of your form
so maybe kyrian is the way, as boring as it is
at least it's 15% buff every minute
hazy shale
what are the current best cov for boomy in pvp?
lime light
i rly dubt night fae will be bis for feral
like there is too many rng factors
it does nothing if u dont roll few bites
hazy shale
with lower cd that would be beyond broken in pve
open verge
because it doesnt cast spells you have on
so if you pre bleed, pre buff
you have a high chance for 5 bites
ez
open verge
yeah
obtuse ice
Night fae
lime light
kyrian bis
obtuse ice
Is shite
lime light
night fae for super rng yolo
obtuse ice
Kyrian biw
open verge
lime light
and necro for more dot pressure
obtuse ice
Venthyrs m+
open verge
kyrian will be the best if bites are the way to go
lime light
kyrian is better for m+
obtuse ice
Kyrian all away UP
open verge
well not the bond, but the buff could be, why would it be dumb
plenty of such abilities are
open verge
that does it make it slightly worse
lime light
way worst
tulip falcon
oh lord
lime light
way way worst
tulip falcon
especially for a long ass buff
open verge
its 10s
open verge
well, ive jsut tested on myself and its a flat 15% dmg buff for 10s
ill try to find someone to bond with
open verge
tulip falcon
and is that one also magic?
tulip falcon
i meant the allied empowerment was, wasn't sure if the lone one was also
lime light
the point about kyrian being magic
puts necroa bit higher imo
necro can make a FF
big dam
with soulbind also
there is too many unknow factors
to decide
what will be the best
tulip falcon
It depends on how everything plays overall as well
lime light
iam 90% sure we gonna bite bite bite
open verge
just choose one and then switch if something turns out better
tulip falcon
with everything else in the game as a factor
open verge
bt is so slow tho
lime light
cuz u get insta damgur
u dont have to wait for it
no its not slow
with FF and a lot of combo u gets
from TF
tulip falcon
bt is really easy to proc
lime light
u might be super energy starved
bt is a passiv now
honestly
if u play BRS
u proc it randomly
open verge
so you rake>tf>rip>zerk>trash>slash>shred>bite>slash>bite
open verge
i wante dto have 2 cp after it, but I forgot im not gonna get them after second bite then...
so it's shit
it's slower on the opener than ff
lime light
i can see it like, rake thrash brs (brs till 5 cp) BT rip
lime light
get another 5 cp
meanwhile getting fresh BT proc
and then u go for double bite
with TF
open verge
yeah but thats slow as fuck
lime light
and kyrian
tulip falcon
i don't feel like BT feels slow at all even on prepatch
open verge
if you can just rake>rip>ff>bite>slash>bite its much faster
but you want more bleeds on the target anyway because of the bite conduit
so I guess you can spend some time setting up anyway
hell, rake>rip>ff>bite>slash>bite>slash>bite
3 bites in fairly quick succession
lime light
u will be oom
open verge
feral does kind of feel energy starved at times
lime light
yes
tulip falcon
thats always been a thing, hence pooling
and why autoattack/bleed damage accommodates for that being a thing
lime light
thats whyi feel like bt will be decent
tulip falcon
not worth it in that case
lime light
i swear all the bites mod will make feral broken
tf bt kyrian soublind
almost 15% from soulbind 15% from kyrian 30% from BT and 15% from TF
and 25% additional crit dmg
that was added back in sl
also bite is 20% nerfed in pvp
i swear the double BT bite with all of this
and with FW so -20% max hp
on top of that
juice
kinda makes me horny
ngl
tulip falcon
on paper it looks good but it really depends on what every other spec is capable of doing
lime light
true
tulip falcon
also isn't FW only 15% now after the nerf or did they revert it?
since its 5% and stacks 3 times
lime light
did they/
tulip falcon
yep
lime light
i dont know about this
lime light
it only makes us more into keep tunneling-biting one target
since it was double 8% in bfa
now its triple 5%
iam not sure about the change
open verge
they buffed it to 2x10 and then nerf to 3x5
lime light
maybe its good enough
tulip falcon
theres a lot of good options instead
high winds got buffed a lil bit also, would be a good pick
tulip falcon
sotw/thorns/high winds/momentum/leader/fw all seem pretty decent
i can see myself swapping between stuff a lot
tulip falcon
have been hit by slam for half my hp too
tulip falcon
ah yea forgot about that
i probably should log on beta now that i doubt a lot will change between now and launch
lime light
there should be a lot of changes pvp wise, but they are not gonna make it
just number changes at the top
or make sl release in 2k21
tulip falcon
ye there needs to be but theres only 2 weeks to go
lime light
and give us like leveling content for xmas
tulip falcon
no way they can delay it again this close
activision will make them push it out regardless bet
lime light
i mean
it could be perfect
naxxramas 3 dec
sl leveling meanwhile
and early january the juice
SL
everyone would be happy
except Activision
tulip falcon
indeed i'd be fine with them delaying it til whenever as long as it's good
lime light
also with a number of abusers in beta
that plays double pve trinket
and legit one shot u in 1/3 of the cheap shot duration
have fun with any pvp testing
open verge
its gonna be an open beta trust me
tulip falcon
usually how it goes
even if it launches and the stuff gets fixed fast im fine with it
just worried that they won't until the season is already underway
hazy shale
im playing beta now, the burst still there ๐
open verge
so you basically dot, go bear, pull resources
cc in the meantime and pump when theres a window
noble quail
Any idea what covenant resto Druid is taking ๐ค
open verge
Okay so the dmg aura was buffed on beta too
patent dove
@noble quail so general consensus is necrolord because it is reliably applied. I will however take night fae because itโs the coolest covenant ability in the game and i am sure you can make it work
Might require set up and practice
noble quail
Thank you!
open verge
convoke is the most interesting one by far, sadly the soulbinds and signature ability are kind of meh
I guess something like thishttps://shadowlands.wowhead.com/soulbind-calc/night-fae/niya/druid/ApbqAQU1ywYSBTXGBhUyygYhFTJJBg
obtuse ice
N?????
obtuse ice
when u have bleeds
obtuse ice
why
stray sigil
cuz incap kinda shit
open verge
its a disorient..
stray sigil
very unfort
obtuse ice
why resto is better than guard then
lime light
but i can see resto being good in sl
open verge
resto better
obtuse ice
But when you play BT
open verge
you're not a war you dont go full mongo
lime light
thrash is just a shred that is overtime
and get used to thrasing u gonna play with soulbind
that insc your bite dmg
per bleed on target
and thrash is just shred
but in a dot
lime light
how
obtuse ice
Imagine playing dot class
obtuse ice
๐ฆ
lime light
CUZ THEY ARE ALREADY GIVING U FREE CYCLONE
stray sigil
language barrier i dont get what ur sayin u ruski
obtuse ice
why free cyclone if they stuck
open verge
why is pvp druid so pepega btw I thought all the cool kids play subs
stray sigil
wtf is stuck
lime light
OFC
stray sigil
why is healer stacking giving u free clone
lime light
he said that
obtuse ice
^
obtuse ice
then u can't roar
obtuse ice
in 3s I played
stray sigil
not uncommon for dps to stack on healer when trap is up either
stray sigil
ya i played vs hpal version of that
lime light
so u stay right there and cast cyclone
stray sigil
and they all played same place
lime light
u dont have to roar
stray sigil
ya but its not a free clone
obtuse ice
^
stray sigil
is what im saying
lime light
u cast till u get a cyclone or till the hunter can trap
stray sigil
cba casting for 20s to juke 3 ppl for a 6s cc
open verge
it will be fun with warrior intervening the healer
stray sigil
u barely cloned in bfa anyways
dont think that will change that much
now u have the button without wasting pvp talent but idk if its gonna be worth cloning all game either way
lime light
bad regen
stray sigil
u get regen for free
lime light
or just going for roar cyclones
obtuse ice
what's conduit
lime light
lime light
yes
lime light
same with
stray sigil
ya
lime light
thats why i feel like guardian will be better
stray sigil
its just RN resto aff a lot better
lime light
just for our own survi
stray sigil
but once we get conduits its over
stray sigil
strenght too
stray sigil
gonna be kinda nutty
obtuse ice
bigbite
stray sigil
strength already very very good too
stray sigil
i just played resto aff vs casters last season tbh
lime light
cuz i was healing a lot with it
stray sigil
with momentum
lime light
i didnt like it that much
its ok
prefer hearth of the wild
so hunter can pump dmg from the range
and iam offhealing between the goes
open verge
perhaps if you can get hotw to 3m
obtuse ice
open verge
its better
lime light
if the meta is super fast
and there are thug cleaves and rmx
that plays super fast games
Hotw will be good
obtuse ice
Begining of xpac will be like that
lime light
yup
obtuse ice
I don't really like
open verge
wut you dont like fast pace?
obtuse ice
no
lime light
imo arena should be like 2-3 min long
open verge
who the fuck doesnt like fast pace
lime light
the perfect arena
obtuse ice
3s 2/3 min?
lime light
yeah
obtuse ice
??
open verge
oh he's baguette?:D
obtuse ice
GO quest in uldum
pve player
filthy
How can IT be skilled if you are one shotting the openent
wouldn't be skilled at all
obtuse ice
yes
lime light
LMAO
lime light
TWO INCARNS
obtuse ice
AHAHA
lime light
ye, u finish with incarn
obtuse ice
not sotf?
lime light
u have sotf from legendary ofc
obtuse ice
ah didn't read legendary
lime light
yes
open verge
you pick TF leg ofc
lime light
apes legends?
obtuse ice
rusky
lime light
not good
open verge
do you even pvp
obtuse ice
Do you remmeber the rip trait
open verge
obtuse ice
8% to get a cp
imagine it's a free bite instead
fkn lit
ah it's 4
mb
you fkn play primal wrath yhea
open verge
why do you want to play feral and not a real spec btw?
obtuse ice
Because I'm hypster
open verge
well I guess im in the same boat then
obtuse ice
welcome on boat
obtuse ice
woop woop
gritty mortar
open verge
well they look viable on beta at least
obtuse ice
Hello, it is currently a thing since it is a bursty class and low hp and big damage, so currently a thing YES
stray sigil
boomy is nutty on beta lol
sharp fog
wouldnt it depend on tick rate and multi dotting?
the apex legendary
would probably need to do some calc on it given the secondary change but with a solid enough tickrate and 2 targets with rip it might workl
obtuse ice
Such a good vocabulary Glyph :o
ebon vortex
grand snow
whats everyone favorite pvp resto weakauras?
vapid nexus
one that plays this when they die:
vagrant zephyr
About covenants for balance druid, is it advised to go Necrolord or Night Fae?
winter spindle
Why Kyrian?
Iโd of thought night fae would do insane burst if you position yourself properly
livid wasp
whats the general consensus on whats the go-to covenant for feral atm
open verge
there's no consensus, it's not a clear cut
open verge
also no stuns, kicks
candid moth
the heal-phials are also pretty nutty
open verge
pity kyrian is just boring af
winter spindle
So with Kyrian are we just bonding with ourselves? Itโs a 15% damage increase right?
open verge
well if you're with another dps you probably bond with him
but solo its just 15% for 10s for you, not too bad
dispellable
cold vale
you guys know how much/how often kindred empowerment uses the pool on healing when you're below 100%? Also, when would it grant absorption rather than healing?
fair zinc
As I understand it kindred doesn't heal you or absorb anything on its own. Pool is just spent empowering your every action. Hence it will empower your healing spells and also passives. Say if you have Resounding Protection (just use it as example, azerite wont be there in SL obviously) renewal during kindred it will empower the shield and use the pool for it. Similarly if you have Ysera's Gift ticking it will also get empowered and draw from the pool. And so on...
cold vale
If that's true, that's good news. There could be some usefulness in using it to offheal, idk
open verge
and you dont get anything for yourself if you empower it?
upbeat sequoia
Does anyone know of some good videos or twitch streamers to check to find out how Balance plays in SL?
Not just how good it is but what the playstyle is, which abilities used etc. I heard someone say that eclipse is hardly used 'because moonkins mostly cast instants ' and that surprised me abit
heavy cairn
@upbeat sequoia idk if they stream but corki or lazergarbben I think is his name
Long time boomkins
upbeat sequoia
Awesome, gonna check em out thanks :)
It's Corkiri apparantly btw
Couldnt find lazergarbben tho
dire pulsar
Got ilvl 100 with all prepatch gear. But i die so fast and i would say kinda low dmg output. Is dat normal lol.
scenic zephyr
So , Regarding high rated arena , where are we about convenant, Kyrian, Kyrian Kyrian?
Can we see a play with necrolord for a more rot play style or is just just not relevant? :/
And if I m right, Circle of Life & Death comes from the raid , so we just stack or legendary ressources and wait ? ๐ฆ
Edited : foor Oomkin
dire pulsar
Im feral, and if i have guys with 18k+ HP they just melt me.
dire pulsar
Waiting for Sl than, knda not fun.
open verge
yeah it sucks hard, but there's nothing we can do about it
dire pulsar
Yeah sure, just wanted to try some alts before SL
open verge
just wait it out, at least you have some gear for questing, not sure if you'll be replacing that with first quest rewards or not
dire pulsar
Yeah will be fine for questing, just not sure with warmode. Probably will be fine at lvl 55+
scenic zephyr
@open verge Speakin' Boomkin , forgot to specify
lime light
no
hazy shale
i just read some changes u.u
now im confused
i dont know what to pick this system is trash
open verge
yeah the choices for druid seem scuffed
for example its pretty clear cut for priest or hunter
there's a clear winner for pvp
obtuse ice
lowkey ure trash
open verge
if you're mainly about 1v1s or 2s perhaps nf ;d but otherwise eh
hazy shale
hows nf for resto in pvp?
open verge
much worse than necro
open verge
I dont think you can let yourself hardchannel as resto when you need big heals ;d
especially since its on nature school
patent dove
I think it requires certain situations to use like against double melee who canโt kick you when on max range or using it when the enemy team is ccโd. Itโs not a versatile oh shit button so you will have to get the feel of when to use it
I also think this will be awesome with cheese like elesham/arcane mage
When you basically burst an enemy
open verge
watching some beta footage feral seems kind of in the middle of the pack honestly
perhaps if they nerf outliers
lusty ruin
what's wrong with prot pala in pvp ?
it's not even his azerite traits ... but isn't he way too strong ?
obtuse ice
yes
lusty ruin
i currently play my twink prot - first time really this evening.
i started with ilvl 100, and that's ridiculous
6 more games and i got 100 games, to have a "reliable" statistic ^^
lusty ruin
Games 100 - Wins: 92 - Losses: 8
That's too much, definitely.
tiny oar
Is that a bite
obtuse ice
You wish
Filthy
no
It's Destro speel
idk even what is was
deflegreation
inflextion
idk
but that crited for 14k
tiny oar
Lol I was about to say that's a rly good bite mdr
obtuse ice
LMoa
stray sigil
na just unfort cuz bt in prepatch feels pretty bad
obtuse ice
MDR
tiny oar
Md fucking r
obtuse ice
ahahahaha
rigid linden
SHITGHAME
obtuse ice
๐ฅฒ
polar nymph
@obtuse ice Was it Incinerate?
lime light
MDR
winged crest
does anyone know if necrolord's adaptive swarm is a magic debuff and can be dispelled in pvp?
lime light
Yes
pliant trout
Does it move to another target if dispelled ?
lime light
Dont know, but dubt
obtuse ice
@polar nymph I don't even know that a destro lock ability
polar nymph
It's the one where they shoot fire out that zigzags toward the target on the ground
Their core builder ability
open verge
@obtuse ice something to be proud of for sure, damn dude you're pathetic
lime light
obtuse ice
Idk why he hate me๐ฅฒ
lime light
:(
small storm
its ok donโt listen to the dumb haters
open verge
I mean since I've been here you're just here to derail discussion, never bring anything valuable to it, keep on pepeging and memeing and clearly you're clueless about the game. /offtopic over
small storm
stray sigil
lol wtf
obtuse ice
@stray sigil told you I'm garbage ๐
stray sigil
tiny oar
open verge
I understand pvp is shit in bfa and no one bothers to talk about it but damn this is the worst pvp channel of all class discords
open verge
4 people participating in total and mostly off topic lol, some nice circle jerk
lime light
at least from my side
open verge
yeah you're the only one discussing actual strategy
lime light
once ixpac hits, we will have more info about meta and how the spec gonna fit into it
open verge
ofc
lime light
so there will be more game talk
open verge
let them buff feral a couple more times and we'll see influx of fotm rerollers :>
open verge
I dont know, perhaps. But Im worried that we wont see a redistribution of dmg but just a flat nerf to bite
and then its just back to being shit
dire nymph
I'd rather them nerf all the insane hybrid healing rn
quiet vine
Hi all, I want to play with my friend 2s in SL. Can someone tell me what's the better healer to choose for climb? some dps too?
open verge
Anything can change at this point honestly
but I think either disc or rdruid should be really strong
lime light
rogue disc
soft fjord
any good feral pvp streamers?
dire nymph
there's tony too, but I would watch those two first personally
tonyferalmovies on twitch (i think)
open verge
snupy is very interactive and helpful, dunno about syfoxe
dire nymph
I hang out in syfoxe's chat and would say the same. They're both really good about interacting with chat
obtuse ice
we said good
So Cassidy
Snupy isn't good, well better than most but just better than average
obtuse ice
yea
open verge
arena123 or focus for you guys
lime light
both
dire nymph
Snupy is going to be better than anyone watching him ๐
and yeah forgot about cassidy
lime light
cassidy is best by far
Tony is also good, but most of his good plays are super Pepega
but if it works it works
dire nymph
yeah sometimes i feel like tony really sucks but then I remember how bad I am
cassidy rarely streams tho ๐ฆ
so I hang out in syfoxe's channel
open verge
watched some vods he's usually muted it seems?
dire nymph
his vods have a subscriber wall so I wouldn't know
open verge
I mean syfox
dire nymph
oh