pvp

[soft mantle]

hey guys, any advice on how to defeat unholy DKs as a balance? I can handle everything else fine, but unholy DK just completely shits on me

[soft mantle]

😂

[forest kite]

😄

[worthy field]

Anyone have updated thoughts on balance druid covenant for pvp? Kyrian with pelagos looks like its still likely the best but im also intrigued by necrolord likely with emeni or even nightfae with korayn.

Doesn't 10% damage to targets above 75% health sound really strong?

And even the 10% healing below 35% health sounds pretty.good for frenzied regen.

I checked the pve balance channel and people are saying it wasn't nerfed. Wowhead flub or something.

But yeah pelagos just looks really nice all around.

Isn't circlr just kind of THE legendary for pvp? Seems like if its almost topping pve charts and its the easiest to get the value out of in pvp the othera don't stand a chance outaide of maybe boat incarn triple Starsurge 1 shot shenanigans.

Yeah same

Appreciate the insight glyph. I theorycraft a lot but i haven't played WoW much since wotlk. Just off and on since then maybe 2 or 3 months at a time casually.

Been gw2 pvper past 7 or 8 years so shadowlands might be my opportunity to really get into pvp here too.

[slow osprey]

whats the most optimal way to jump between using targeting macros in arenas to healing in a raid or bg?

[vapid nexus]

a mix of mouseover macros for raidhealing, target of target buttons, and a bind for casting on specific tanks if you feel you need it

[slow osprey]

word thank you for the incite

[dim onyx]

Icy veins, wowhead, skill capped all reputable sources in your guys opinions as far as PvP guides go for balance specifically? Assuming they're updated to reflect recent changes?

[vapid nexus]

I trust icyveins as far as my printer throws paper

[crude steppe]

Seriously?

How did they suddenly become the bad website?

5 years ago it was “lol Noxxic? They’re misinformation garbage losers, Icyveins has the real info”

[stark pollen]

They have pve shit

[crude steppe]

Oic

[smoky sail]

Watch skillcap if u want to learn

Not iv

[smoky sail]

Yup

Atleast wowhead is write by some old/actual r1

[dim onyx]

Okay that's good to know. I like skill capped a lot for their vids but I'll be sure to refer to wowhead before icyveins. Thanks

[tropic schooner]

Guide usefulness really depends who has written it, that goes for both icy veins and wowhead

[forest kite]

I also follow skillcapped and then individual people who continuously do well.

[agile kraken]

like if you're just wpvp or in a 1v1 it's fine, but as soon as you get into the realm of having to deal with cross-cc, breaking nearby cc or having to deal with kicks it becomes a bit of a dead covenant ability
@vestal citrus Convoke doesnt break CC

[smoky sail]

Idk now for icy veins but from what I remember all they're bfa guide for healer are write by the same guy so kinda yikes

[lime light]

Guide is only usefull when u are new to Class/spec

And u are clueless

U get their talents, everything they recommend and u start the grind

After u getting better, learning what u need

U just Play whatever u feel like is better

[rich crag]

How does focused growth work? I notice when I hit myself with a lifebloom it starts a new buff and counts stacks, but when I hit another target it doesn't give me or the target the buff. Is it still "working" or just hidden when on another target ?

Seems to stack on a target but no visible buff like if it's on you. weird. lol

[heavy cairn]

I’m liking Rdruid in pre-patch more and more. Can’t wait to get NS. Interested to see how the game feels at 60

[tiny oar]

Yup should b fun

[lime light]

good rdru kaput rdru

🙂

[tiny oar]

[slow osprey]

anyone thats seasoned in resto healing in arenas able to give me some advice on keybindings? Im triyng to make the leap into switching over to targeting macros and im running into some small issues that I could use some info/opinions on.

[lime light]

never rip'erix lets go

[obtuse ice]

Blood of the nnemly

🤔

[lime light]

bis essence

by far

[obtuse ice]

@lime light Hoooooow

[lime light]

The only thing that matters en

Rn

Is one tap

And blood + drest allows u

[obtuse ice]

u

demoralize me

[normal tide]

God

I SUCK as boomkin

Itemlv 90, i know its part of the problem, but literally cant kill anyone unless they got less hp than me

[forest kite]

im looking for this addon i used in the past that showed me all the abilities of all the classes, i thought it was omnibar or omnicc but after checking them out they dont have it

am i overlooking it? or does anyone know the addon?

[obtuse ice]

Do you want a tracker ?

or just something that displays it when they pops cds

[forest kite]

atm i just wanna learn about classes without having to switch between chars or making new ones 😛

so i can mess around with making universal keybinds

and learn my enemies

[obtuse ice]

You need to face them to learn about them!

[forest kite]

😉

[open verge]

How bad is having to upkeep and waste CP on rip after the heavy sabertooth nerf? Probably more relevant on the beta where you need the bleeds

[forest kite]

is there a caster spec good against shadowpriest?

[open verge]

No casters, just sub, ww, perhaps UH dk

But it's still a hard matchup for them

[dim onyx]

Best azerite traits for moonkin for the next couple weeks?

[forest kite]

😢

i guess unholy, it has multiple interrupt and spell shields. but its so godamn slow

[keen drum]

Any balance dudu streamer or vids to learn from for pvp

[lime light]

How to starsurge

[neat mortar]

Which covenant seems good both for pvp and m+?

For resto

[hasty sphinx]

Kyrian

[worthy field]

Kyrisn actually good for resto now? Haven't looked into resto much lately but it seems to have always been accepted that necrolord is just the best by far for pvp.

[queen copper]

some sort of wierd shit going on in world pvp ? people sitting in nazjatar killing me in literally 1-2s and healing full CA dots no problem

hunter/rogue

[open verge]

For feral is it still necro so far?

[agile kraken]

@queen copper maybe this https://www.wowhead.com/news=318634/rextroy-one-shots-players-with-unsquished-nazjatar-totems

[smoky sail]

Plz I need rextroy as a dev

[keen drum]

@vestal citrus well i know balance aint in the best spot for PVP atm and watching few vids that i was able to find googling did change my playstyle A LOT from what i was used to in pve and was able to actually win some duels with almost equal ilvl. But im still very unsure how to react to different scenarios and such. It's hard to explain but generally i want to watch more experienced players how they react to those random scenarios that may happen. i probably could try to go into more details but i might be tiring to some.

[lime light]

Boomkin is most broken caster rn

As u said "ATM"

So in pre patch

[open verge]

wat, have you seen sp

in comparison boomkin is a sitting duck

[keen drum]

i was dueling a war mostly yesterday , and i could barely get casts , focusing like 90% of the time on running and healing. and rest of the time just instants till i can starsurge. I would like to know with which perspective you think boomkin is broken ?

[open verge]

im curious as well

[tardy hare]

I don't think you usually really get much time to hard cast ever as boomy anyway

in arena that is

afk in

[forest kite]

I’m enjoying ele a lot, boom is boring in comparison imho, they nerfed lava burst proc on beta too much tho ._.

[open verge]

go sp, ez

unless youre a hipster and trying to avoid fotm

[forest kite]

Looks like I’m a hipster then :)) I mained spriest like what 8 years ago, mm not a class I really wanna go back to.

[open verge]

so what did you like about boomie/ele

[agile kraken]

@keen drum play with hearth of the wild, dot him up, thorns, kite, heal, roar into clone, heal, dots and do damage / pop cooldowns when he cant reach you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiC-H-p-ynQ this video shows it well

Make sure you rotate cooldowns well and dont overlap them.

Just by playing more you will understand the ebb and flow of combat and when to use what

[keen drum]

yea thats the vid i saw that made me change my playstyle a lot

[forest kite]

Ele I’m liking the proc in pvp, it’s just so good I’m feeling like a freaking hunter mobility-wise plus the utility is awesome. I like some complexity. I’m dudu for feral. And then I picked up windwalker for SL arena too, which is kinda fotm though.

[keen drum]

hearth of the wild , ugh i'll be honest the 5 min cd feels like forever.

[agile kraken]

yea thats shitty

But group pvp you dont need it, only open world duels cause you cant hide easily or pillar

Like warrior may beat you, but as soon as you have a pillar, its byby warrior.

[keen drum]

when should i take resto vs bear affinity ?

[agile kraken]

I always take bear, duels and pvp.

Duels its great for def, and healing. Also for arena, healer CC, just go bear, heal and more %reduction

resto i would take in pve for the cyclone thing on the ground, or maybe vs 2 melees when you play with a mage.

[keen drum]

hmm i guess i should try it, i was stuck with resto cause i liked off-healing my friend when we roam together

[agile kraken]

yea both are great, but i love the bearform heal %, fits well in the rotation and survivability

also incap roar into cyclone works

[keen drum]

will try thanks for the tips !

[agile kraken]

ywywyw

[smoky sail]

Moonkin is fkin op xD

Like 15k surge x4 nothing else to say x)

[agile kraken]

lol how 15k XD

my surges crit max 5k in arena, 19k hp.

[smoky sail]

Overgear + modifiers

[open verge]

prepatch is not balanced, boomie is meh in beta

as it always was

[smoky sail]

You can even play drest for the one tap but kinda yikes have to go melee range

2 surge enuff to put ppl back in char selection

[agile kraken]

Balance got better with the changes in shadowlands then prior.
Their deff not meh.

Maybe if you only look DPS wise on a raid boss.
All other content their great.

And if you want to look at purely rating;
EU 3138 Boomy
US 3532 Boomy

[open verge]

that's impressive

I dont care at all about pve, it's a chore we have to do

Can you elaborate on how sl boomie differs from sl one

[agile kraken]

Alot more baseline stuff, and affinity changes.
Which makes the class or boomy very versatile

[open verge]

the damage dealing part is not really different is it

[magic pier]

ban wih meat = ban wihthout meat

ban = ban forever

[smoky sail]

The adding of more utility feel rly great imo will back to frozen chimken

And tunnel healer with frost orb beam Vortex

Also the aoe incap real good for peel + roar

[keen drum]

does it matter if i go staff over onehand/-ffhand ?

[smoky sail]

Just 1 less socket

If you have socket item ofc

[heavy cairn]

What do my rdru brothers think for covenants? Night fae or necrolord?

[tiny oar]

Necrolord

Rly sad

[lime light]

kyrian bis

🙂

[open verge]

I mean even the 5% versa seems good

[obtuse ice]

bip boop

[lime light]

u were afk?

[obtuse ice]

😉

[open verge]

im confused, what are you trying to show here

[obtuse ice]

Rip big boi

[lime light]

the bleed damgur

but looks kinda wrong to me

u double bleed

or u were kiting afk

[obtuse ice]

Just trolling away

[open verge]

is thrash worth it generally in ST? I dont believe we benefit from the number of bleeds up in bfa, but we will in SL

[lime light]

only with condult/soulbind

[open verge]

yeah

[wise valley]

@lime light what happened to mach

why can't I at him

[surreal heron]

@tardy hare

mobile sucks

[tardy hare]

I got banned man

Unforch

Am gone

@wise valley what do you need me for bby

Am right here dont you worry

[obtuse ice]

@tardy hare Banned from what?

[wise valley]

@tardy hare u related to max 🤔🤔

[tardy hare]

@obtuse ice dreamgrove ofcourse

@wise valley as long as he wins

[obtuse ice]

but ure there

[wise valley]

😂😂

[obtuse ice]

🤔

@wise valley hey qt

[wise valley]

Is that a common lastxname in dutch

@obtuse ice HEY BABY

[obtuse ice]

what's up

[tardy hare]

Nah not really

But nah not directly related

Maybe far down the family tree

[obtuse ice]

isn't a familly tree going up

[open verge]

what's this #offtopic

this channel is dead as it is

[wise valley]

Who the fuck r u

[tardy hare]

isn't a familly tree going up
😡

[wise valley]

In my head max and reuben are best friend brothers

Pro racer pro gamer 😤😤

[tardy hare]

❤️❤️❤️

[wise valley]

Shaved mt head

[obtuse ice]

handsome

[open verge]

profile pic fits as a favourite show

[tardy hare]

I can't even see ur head

:!

[dire nymph]

can feral/rogue work in 3's or is that just a waste of time?

[lime light]

Rn yes

Later in sl, waste

[zinc mortar]

Opinions on best covenant for rdruid in arenas shadowlands?

[tiny oar]

[surreal heron]

don't start

[tiny oar]

That was fast

Nice 1 thyme

I was feelsbad about having to be necrolord tho

[zinc mortar]

Adaptive swarm is really strong im assuming?

[tiny oar]

Yea it's really good + cc immune fleshcraft is pretty insane if u use it well

[zinc mortar]

Awesome thanks for info 🙂 saw the new wowhead post today about pve covenants and was curious what was recommended for arenas

[agile kraken]

How does AdSwarm make you CC immune, on yourself its only a heal??

55% healing potions that removes stuff sounds stronger for me,

Or you need to aura a HOJ every time or a SP silince/stun which will not get used on your prob that much.

[open verge]

We'll see, Kyrian also seems quite good. 5% vers, healing and dot cleanse, Kindred seems good for burst windows

[exotic wolf]

are you talking about boomy or resto @agile kraken @vestal citrus

[unique cairn]

Circle of Life and Death. is gonna be our best aoe legendary?

[rich crag]

So many keybinds for resto druid. Probably can get enough to do 2s but gee whiz with 3s another set of binds. I guess you guys don't bind EVERY single spell you have that can be cast on partners? Or do you . LOL.

[patent dove]

Ofc

[exotic wolf]

I don't

if you work with modifiers you can save some bar slots @rich crag

[tropic schooner]

@rich crag most people do not use cast party 1-3 on most spells

And just have 3 buttons to target everyone and normal spells which cast on your main target

[exotic wolf]

👆

[smoky sail]

Just mby do some focus clone/root and u rdy to go

[exotic wolf]

some things I made macros so I can execute them faster. Like dispel, clone on target123 so they don't see on who i cast it etc

[smoky sail]

If u have enuff binds then go ahead :&

[exotic wolf]

If you want some examples how I save binds then just pm me. I'll show you

[tropic schooner]

Well macros can't save binds

Just slots in your ui

As a beginner with hotkey issues wouldn't really suggest arena1-3 either just target+focus for spells like clone and having macros to target/focus arena1-3

Even target and focus could, initially be clicked if there is a huge hotkey issue and eventually added in

[exotic wolf]

Well true. But imo If I could start over I would try to play with arena 123 etc and form good habits at the start.

For me it's still really hard to adjust to arena 123 instead of clicking on them ...

the cc on arena 123 macros is pretty solid though. that change was easy

[tropic schooner]

Never used casting on arena1-3

Only focus ever

But if you start playing arenas having 60+ hotkeys learning a bunch of spells and having issues with targeting can be daunting

Wow PvP is very hard to get into

[ebon vortex]

i open spellbook only

[open verge]

just type it out

[ebon vortex]

but nah best is target arena1-3 imo

[vestal path]

I never saw the benefit to focus casting. Arena123 solves the same problem without having to switch focus, which is basically just changing your target all time anyway

[tropic schooner]

The benefit is a lot fewer hotkeys needed

That's about it

[sturdy wing]

Hey all, I just max-leveled my druid for the first time since Cata. I was a Duelist MW and RSham last expac, but I just feel like I can't do anything on my Druid. I'm sure part of it is gear (~90 iLevel), but I just can't figure out why I'm struggling so much to keep anyone alive in an arena. Lifebloom and two rejuvs does like 0 healing, and I end up either spamming regrowth or something or trying to CC or help damage and I fall behind on healing and we lose. Am I missing something? Is it really just my gear that's to blame?

[open verge]

it's all about the gear dude

dont sweat it

[exotic wolf]

wait till SL. It's your gear. Don't sweat

[tropic schooner]

Realistically it will also be play, but impossible to say what is how much

Gear is a big issue tho

Esprit without scaling now

[open verge]

even geared folks get 100-0'ed, prepatch is nothing you should think too much about

[exotic wolf]

exactly.

[sturdy wing]

Mmk, that's good to know

[open verge]

Do you feel that without berserk energy cost reduction we're gonna be energy starved in SL? seems like 3 bites and youre out of energy

[strong narwhal]

whats the general consensus on the best legos for pvp atm

for resto

[shrewd mesa]

Anyone seen any reliable information on pvp ilvls yet? Like what rating is required for what level of gear? Found a blue post saying it will be ilvl 226, same as mythic. What rating will be required for that?

[heady geyser]

Iirc it's 2100?

At least I remember seeing that

[lime light]

2.4k prolly

[obtuse ice]

best ilvl is 2.4 atm

[heady geyser]

Oh dang that's higher than I thought

[subtle cave]

how is balance pvp after prepatch?

[obtuse ice]

@vestal citrus

[subtle cave]

oh that's why im losing all arenas then

hahah

xD

[obtuse ice]

AHAHAH

yes

and big boi burst

[subtle cave]

im trying to find my best pvp class

but can't

i want to try druid

but not feral, i don't like feral

so i was thinking about balance

already tried warlock rogue and dk

[kindred monolith]

balance is only getting better with things like cyclone and incap being baseline (depending on affinity), But its basically spam insta casts. throw some wraths and cc out, back to instas. watch them go bye bye

obviously my opinion, but ive played boomy since early BC and ive never had as much fun playing boomy as i do now lol

[hazy shale]

what u guys think about the new trinket

for pvp

[exotic wolf]

who in here plays boomy?
I always wanted to try it.. but with this shit covenant system I'm unsure.. If I don't want to stick with it come shadowlands and go back to healing I wasted time.

[stray sigil]

@vestal citrus

[rich crag]

still feel bad losing to a 135 sub rogue in world pvp even though I am 114 and he can essentially kill me inside of a cheapshot/kidney shot lol. Guess that's just how much i hate to win and don't usually lol

Some of these guys in naz must farm 500 pods and are using damage pots. Geez they wanna win even more than I do lol 🙂

[smoky sail]

Btw from what I read SL max lvl reward pvp is now 2.1=2.4=226ilvl

[exotic wolf]

what does 2.1=2.4 mean? from 2.1 to 2.4 you get the same ilvl?

[stray sigil]

yes

[spice juniper]

@tardy hare

[tardy hare]

[tiny oar]

[forest kite]

[verbal thistle]

Hey everyone, I'm new in here and maining Feral in PvE since Legion. Do you think Feral is worth for maining in PvP in shadowlands?

[open verge]

define worth it

it should be okay, but may be restricted to a one good comp - jungle

you gotta know tho, that feral requires far more effort to reach similar results that other classes can achieve

[pulsar coyote]

Hey I’m interested in picking up feral. Could anyone recommend me a YouTuber to watch guides so I can learn how to play feral? And to get better eventually? Thx

[open verge]

@pulsar coyote snupy

[pulsar coyote]

Thank you @open verge

[smoky sail]

Cassidy

Tonyferal and bigpeter

[forest kite]

They’re not on YT though, the list of youtubers is pretty small.

[open verge]

can watch vods on twitch

[forest kite]

Yeah, I’m just saying because op mentioned YT

[open verge]

snupy has yt guides tho

[forest kite]

Otherwise there’s also suffre and ilovelucy... that’s it I think 🤔

Yeah, I’m also following snupy, he seems like a nice guy too

[open verge]

Yeah he's a nice guy indeed

[forest kite]

There’s also this guy named bananaraccoon, I completely forgot about him but got a fresh video in my feed yesterday. Lastly soullscape has some feral wpvp if interested.

[exotic wolf]

what's up with bean, nobody mentioning him?

I recall a time where I watched him play feral.

[forest kite]

Aye, just checked, looks like he switched to classic?

[smoky sail]

Bean play classic

Suffre rly good to watch aswell

[lime light]

Rly @smoky sail ?

So u cant get better gear

From 2.4k?

So why u can get better gear from 2 last vosses

But not from higher pvp

[smoky sail]

Idk I just read that idk where but to me it's accurate

Since pve pleb cannot reach 2.4 better lower the lvl

Look bfa

Max azerit was 2.1 in 3season

In s4

Max azerit was 1.8

So it sound possible to me

I mean accurate

And like 2.4 was rewarding you same ilvl than a +15 and let's be honest

Reach 2.4 is easier than finish a 15 even not in time

But if it's real iam pretty happy about that cuz ppl who only play pvp without getting that high can have acces to decent gear and aswell get more ppl from pve who want to optimise they're gear

So maybe we'll get some attention

[lime light]

No, its free gear then

Why i dont get free gear from pve

[exotic wolf]

yeah
where is my free gear from pve

[smoky sail]

dude doing 15 key is so badly ez xd

[lime light]

Rn yes

But u are kinda right imo

It should work like

Everyone can buy the best pvp gear

But like 2.4k+ player will farm it in x time

But 1.8k player in lets say 3*x time

But at the end, his gear will be as good as the better player

That's how it was in mop

More rating more conqueet u could farm per reset

[open verge]

Yeah imho its stupid to do it the way they do it. Pve content gets trivialized as time passes, pve does not. So either you snowball early on or you struggle

at least the power of gear doesnt seem to be as high as in bfa, so you might still be able to outplay better geared players, perhaps

[wanton ridge]

Also annoying that you'll get your +15 chest even if you bust the timer by 5 hours. In arenas people won't lose on purpose so you can have a participation trophy

[lime light]

Resto affinity hearth of the wild

Seems to be soo weak

But Guardian hotw is super strong vs big burst set up comps

[open verge]

As feral?

Or in general

[lime light]

Iam playing only feral

[open verge]

And I agree you seem to be getting much more from guardian hotw

[lime light]

But can see it being the same as boom and resto Guardian wise

[open verge]

Double reg seems good

[open verge]

do you think there's a world in which we pick NF?

convoke is so easy to counter, 2m cd

but perhaps you can make people trade trinket for it, in 2s at least, that'd be worth it, wouldnt it?

[open verge]

well but if they do burn it, then you pretty much win next go with convoke

[worthy field]

Is adaptive swarm dispellable?

[open verge]

It's magic, yeah

[heavy cairn]

I liked nightfae with the blink and convoke felt ok

But I really love mald aesthetics way more

Also convoke 12 spells and no mana? Kinda lit even if they are wasted slightly by rng

Tough decision

[random patrol]

I mean if you can get it off and its a perfect situation Convoke is great

the problem is getting it off

and its also not a smart cast

so it can hit into bubbles, clone etc

[ebon vortex]

convoke also interacts with sotf with resto

you can get lucky and instantly top your team in 3s

the value from convoke in pvp is really gonna be dependant on positioning

[hazy shale]

swarm is still the best covenant spell for restopvp?

[worthy field]

Not looked into it for a while but seems really hard to compete with

[stray sigil]

is there an addon to make the cast bar bigger or do i have to get a unitframe addon

[smoky sail]

https://diabolus-esports.com/dblog/diabolus-deathbowl-shadowlands-pre-patch-3v3-tournament

The most epic clownfiesta ever

[lime light]

Moveanything

He woke up after 2 years

And doing updates

[smoky sail]

@stray sigil you can use a castbar WA ez and setup ur perfect size

• hide castbar Add-on

[patent dove]

is this how the french view themselves?

[obtuse ice]

That's how it was

[tiny oar]

mdr

[open verge]

how would you rank the endurance conduits we have, they all seem pretty strong: skin cd reduction, autocast of frenzied regen when you fall below 40%, stronger regrowth/frenzied reg on yourself

[lime light]

How does the freanzy regen thingy works

Does it shift u into bear form and pop free freanzy regen

Or its poped in any form

U are already in

[lime light]

No kid pls stop teaching me

We talking about auto cast freanzy regen

From condult

[novel sky]

jdotb mentioned on his stream once that it just procs in whatever form ur in

doent shift you

that was like 3 patches ago tho

[lime light]

Sounds good

[rich crag]

Kid...lol sorry i just saw your message and offered to help.... I didn't research your "VIP"ness sorry bro 🙂

[lime light]

no, u forgot to read whole thing

and after u cringed about your comment

and u deleted it

[rich crag]

I deleted it because it served no purpose

"kid" 🙂

[lime light]

oki 🙂

now u know, that u shouldnt make me angry

[quasi compass]

hi guys

is there any horde here ?

[lime light]

yes

[leaden fable]

Anyone pvp as blance

[forest kite]

Horde only 💯

[open verge]

@lime light you just get healed in whatever form

oh soz, someone replied already

[open verge]

how do you deal with execution sentence as feral

[queen copper]

Release spirit

Same as boomy

[vapid nexus]

nozth trinket+bearform+barkskin+happy thoughts+prayer

[hazy shale]

unninstall the game

[open verge]

yeah I played some arenas on beta

gotta say ret dk was a nightmare to face

it didnt help that im a noob and the ret was savix, but still he didnt do anything spectacular

they even melted through SI, barskin and frenzied reg proc

[vapid nexus]

are you triple dr'ing them on roots with swiftness procs?

[open verge]

nah he bubbles and it's over pretty much

yeah I tried to kite

[vapid nexus]

my only other advice would be to try and catch his stun, [if he's stunning you and not your healer] with casting fleshcraft

[open verge]

ofc, I think the main issue is the lack of skill here

if you dont let ret pump with his cds it should be fine

I usually forced bubble with clone

then ran, getting gripped

healed and kept running

[vapid nexus]

don't forget that you have human form wild charge to yeet yourself to your healer, and when being trained: don't shift roots/slows with travel form, shift them with bear form instead

[open verge]

it was ret/feral vs ret/dk

now that I think about it, I dont recall seeing any bops on me

[vapid nexus]

in that case, consider taking resto affinity, and pvp talents for thorns, packleader, and the one that increases your healing based on the number of outbound rips.

[open verge]

feral is definitely not bad, snupy was doing just fine

I just need some heavy work on it, it's not the easiest spec

[cold vale]

The high winds debuff doesn't dr right? Like, it's still 4sec on a half clone

[lime light]

Should be yes

[tiny oar]

can comfirm it dont dr yupperz

[cold vale]

Cool, thanks. I want to be able to use the silence/interrupt reduction talent as balance, but it feels like we have 3-4 talents that are just straight better

[lime light]

any biters in the chat

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bite-bad-no-gif-7748718

[tiny oar]

Me

[lime light]

i still dont understand why there is a gcd on kick

after u wild charge in bear form

makes 0 sens

@obtuse ice @stray sigil whats our opinion between guardian and resto affinity

[obtuse ice]

In arena u mean@lime light?

[lime light]

ofc

i kinda feel like

guardian is way way better

idk

[obtuse ice]

really?

well I am bad going into beer form but like

Just for vortex and ysera's gift I think it's gud enough over beer @lime light

Cause you only have frienzy regen and ironfur but against mages doesn't work soo

[lime light]

idk 6% perma dam reduction seems good also

u can use incap twice in vortex cd

resto affinity healing seems to not be that strong even that early on

and its kinda akward to have a hot on someone to swiftmend

like before u could insta swiftmend someone, now its gcd capped

feels kinda akward, and freanzy seems better to healer yourself

reju is super useless, ysera is like decent, but isnt that huge

@forest kite sure

u mean

arena1
arena2?

its good idea till u play 3s

and u need arena 123

maybe focus will be good enough for u

every spec has same chance climbing

just other comps

and depends what will be the meta

all 3 specs looks ok

idk maybe like "your cyclone keybind" and
arena1 = shift
arena2 = control
arena3 = alt

and potion

[magic viper]

Any good guides? I'm 2200 rating on my pally by rolling my face on my keyboard. But I can't do anything with my druid.

[open verge]

I think feral is considerably harder to play than ret, so no wonder. You might check snupy on yt, or his vods on twitch

or ssds

[dim abyss]

i just dont get what im supposed to do in pvp. im stealthed at start. teammate starts getting chunked. i start healing. i get cc'd until both of my teammates are dead. i do have the medallion but that only works once...

[open verge]

oh you meant rdruid

[magic viper]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention the spec, I play Holy/Resto 🙂

[patent dove]

prepatch is rough. our hots don't heal jack and we are squishy as hell, just wait till SL

[open verge]

resto seems really strong in sl

[lime light]

it seems to be strong even without NS yet

[knotty harbor]

guys I changed 5 mains in BfA and I don't want it to happen again in SL so I'm researching heavily on what to main, I'm between Assa Rogue and Feral Druid, can you give me some insight

which has the better spike in BiS gear?

[open verge]

dont wanna burst your bubble but you might just be an altoholic and there's no way around that ;d

if you want a safe bet just go rogue

[patent dove]

rogue has never been and will never be bad

one of the three specs will always be at least viable if not top tier

[open verge]

feral is the opposite, you put all your eggs in one basket

close your eyes and hope that at least jungle is decent

[lime light]

easy answer

play rogue

[knotty harbor]

for rogue, I really like only the DoT playstyle

so I'll only play one spec anyways on rogue too

ath it might be the case but I really hope I can break it because it'll be a busy year, I won't have much time to spread myself between multiple characters...

I really hate the class fantasy of a Rogue, so I'm trying to convince myself to play feral

[obtuse ice]

@lime light Resto > Guardian cmm

[open verge]

imho feral is both harder to play and yielding worse results in general, you have to try much harder achieve what rogue can easier

[forest kite]

Resto with feral affinity is as close as you want to get to feral imo

Never go full feral

[open verge]

you think so?

I think its perfectly fine to play feral if you like the challenge

[little harness]

Is resto crappy rn in PvP? I feel like damage is way too bursty to heal effectively

[tulip falcon]

think resto/guardian aff for feral are situational picks tbh

both are good for different things

[open verge]

they are, but that was not his point

[tulip falcon]

was talking about the stuff above

[open verge]

above where, you mean from a few hours back

[tulip falcon]

ye

since people were talking about whether guardian or resto was better

[open verge]

yeah I find different applications for them

[tulip falcon]

resto is really nice for double dps 2s

[open verge]

although I always feel weird without swiftmend

[tulip falcon]

but guardian pairs well with sotw and hotw also

[little harness]

I was asking about resto as a spec

idk if people were event answering me tho

[open verge]

I was

oh no, that was not you

[tulip falcon]

i was responding to the convo above that

[open verge]

but yes, resto isnt good in prepatch if that's what you're asking

but it'll be fine in sl

[little harness]

yeah dmg wont be bonkers, figured

ty 🙂

[tulip falcon]

ye rdruid sort of struggles the most when dmg is like this

[little harness]

yeah i'll stick with disc and shaman for now then

[obtuse ice]

New BT doesn't affect

RAKE

right?

just want to be sure

[open verge]

rip and bite

[olive pulsar]

Feral actually looks pretty rad in SL pvp. Maybe that's just skilled streamers bombing on casual players and making vids of it...but it looks like it has a solution for almost anything...

[forest kite]

whats a macro for getting rogues out of stealth? im using one rn but rogues sap me like 99% of the time when we are both in stealth

[tiny oar]

#showtooltip Rake
/cleartarget [dead]
/targetenemy [noharm]
/cast Rake

is my rake macro, will target stealthed ppl if you find them

[lime light]

Try hard macro

U just wait in stealth till enemy opens

And watch Campbell on yt

[rigid linden]

that macro pointless when u have 200 aussie latency 😦

whatd i miss

feral good?

[lime light]

Its ok

Same place as always

But u can do some juice bites

With blood rn

[open verge]

@olive pulsar it will be probably hanging around mid to a tier, depending on a comp

and when you say 'solution to everything' what do you mean?

[tropic schooner]

@forest kite a lot more important than macro is turning around properly spamming tab + rake key is very similarly to that macro anyway

[rich crag]

Anyone know if when you are like lower level if the brackets are still locked out if you shut off experience ? I want to BG on my new druid but not level too fast so i can wait for my brother. But don't want to be stuck waiting in dead queues that don't have levellers

[open verge]

yes you'll have seperate queue, a slow one

[obtuse ice]

VoP minor owo

@lime light

whatdo you think

[lime light]

irrelevant

no one cares about pre patch

its here now and it wont be here tomorrow

but crucible>vop by far

and u have to play lucid/flame/conflict

and blood is the best major essence in pre patch

till u playing bgs

so flame is

so u already have too many must have essences

[obtuse ice]

in bgs

flame major ?

[lime light]

ye

if u kill someone u kill everyone

after that

[obtuse ice]

reaping flame u mean

[lime light]

it crits for like 10k almost

ye

[obtuse ice]

not crucible flame

[lime light]

nah, crucible flame is must have as minor

it can do ok dmg + high chance to do broken unhealable dam

[obtuse ice]

idk about blood in arena tbh

[lime light]

cuz it procs from itself sometimes

3 stacks of crucible crits for like 1.5k

constant dmg

its more then all the bleeds u can put on a target

bt > 5 cp > tf > blood > bt bite > drest

someone is ded

pretty much

u can play reaping flame/crucible/blood of the enemy

they are all decent as major

with crucible major u can control the dot

that does insane dmg

but its 2 gcds

and ofc u play 3x jungle fury

for crit

and i think iam 2x wfr also + one BM

cuz i said fuck it, u thrash sometimes to get BT proc, so why not picking up wfr

[obtuse ice]

blood mist

[lime light]

that can do good dam when u zerker

yup

[obtuse ice]

u play bt?

[lime light]

i would go 3x wfr 3xJF

but the head with both is from raid

and apparently iam not a disugsting pve scum abuser

yes

i prefer bt, even tho FF seems super strong

but with FF u need more globals

with BT u can flop someone from 100% when they have no idea

but both are good

[obtuse ice]

Bt sucks

[lime light]

why

its akward to proc it

but its good

[obtuse ice]

Stun stun blood bite ff bite

[lime light]

its good too

i just like bt more

play what makes u happy

it makes me happy to bt bite 🙂

[obtuse ice]

FEels like you have less oportinities

[obtuse ice]

at least no more regrowth dispell

[tulip falcon]

bt is good atm if you pair with like drest/reap etc

big fat bite followed by drest and reap

literally killed people 2 globals

[obtuse ice]

Heart of the wild maybe ??

[lime light]

with resto affinity trash

with guardian rly good

defensive wise

[obtuse ice]

Big heal

with resto

[lime light]

not rly, u just "removing" the pvp mod on it

when u playing hotw

reju still not healing shit

just a bit more with swiftmend

[obtuse ice]

Big swtifhmed

[lime light]

that is (for me) akward to use

mostly

[obtuse ice]

and RG I belive nice

yhea and like

5mins cds

if it was like 3mins

[lime light]

it will be around 3 min i think

with soulbind for it

[obtuse ice]

yhea but still mighty bash

I really do feel like guardian is weaker than resto

[obtuse ice]

cause when you you have for bear and friendzy

then you can't do anything else

[lime light]

but your energy suck now

so its not that bad

u can also mangle for a bit, and disorient

idk i like guardian more

i disslike the swiftmend change

[obtuse ice]

I mean

[lime light]

but if u can press it off cd its good ye

[obtuse ice]

you almsot have always a regrowth on you

so

[lime light]

ye, but if u wanna heal yourself guardian is way better imo

when iam playing resto, iam mostly wanna heal other ppl to

and thats the moment when it starts to be kinda akward sometimes

[obtuse ice]

That's another reason why resto is better

[lime light]

to swiftmend other ppl

[obtuse ice]

more versatile

[lime light]

but think about other thing

[obtuse ice]

Insta regrowth your friend

[lime light]

after few lvls

[obtuse ice]

and then switft med

[lime light]

your regrowh will be almost always crit

right now it crits for like 4.5k?

aiight?

and swiftmend for like 7k

so your rw will be most likely always crit

[obtuse ice]

rw?

[lime light]

regrowh

[obtuse ice]

Switftmend is

15 sec

[lime light]

yes it is

[obtuse ice]

friendzy

32

[open verge]

I think guardian is good in niche situations while resto is generally better

[lime light]

also 6% dmg reduction

ysera healing is dumb

and will heal u, even if u are 99% hp

[obtuse ice]

yhea but when you're low life Tianton

[lime light]

and other guy is dying

[obtuse ice]

Doesn't matter if you take 6% less

you wwanna go full life

[open verge]

regro swiftmend is an ohshit button that you can often press and survive

[lime light]

also remember

spriest will be meta, mostl likely whole ixpac

and how they are getting insanity

just by purging

they will spam purge whole game, between pressing insant vt's

so swiftmending will be harder

[obtuse ice]

Maybe if you're 3.5k cr

but otherwise I don't think they'll focus on dispelling ferals heals

[lime light]

they are not focusing on dispeling feral heals

they just spam purge

like donki kongs

till u are clean

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/archimonde/cåssidy
guardian

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/ïlovelucy
guardian

even ruski boi Zakat guardian

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/gordunni/керриганхохо

[open verge]

prepatch is not sl

[lime light]

but your hp will go way higher

compared to main stat

that is scalling with resto affinity spells

so freanzy will be even stronger

and setting up incap cyclone

will be huge also

[open verge]

I really like guardian on a boomie but eh on a feral its weird somehow

[lime light]

resto suck on boomy for sure

[obtuse ice]

1v1 wise at least

it's garbage

lol

[lime light]

idk feels like

regrowh will be broken

thats how we gonna offheal

[obtuse ice]

no im just garbage dw

[lime light]

thats how i feel like

therea re mulitle soulbinds for it

this shit seems to be crazy too

and this one

[open verge]

doesnt require guardian tho ;d

[lime light]

ofc it doesnt

[open verge]

yeah, going 2 endurance might actually make sense for feral

weirdly they have really good conduits

[lime light]

innate resolove with the crit passiv for rw

or the old" hearth of the wild"

idk how its called now

str of nature

or some shit

gonna be crazy for offheals

thats how we gonna offheal other ppl, at least how i see it

and just guardian for our own survi

+kyrian potion KEKW

i like that tree

[open verge]

finesse sucks tho

[lime light]

but u have to get double the "thunder"

thingy

and its super shit

to pick the 2nd one

[open verge]

thats the worst one

[lime light]

is useless af

what is the worst one?

[open verge]

finesse conduits

just get endurance +25% crit on open

[lime light]

thunder is finesse?

[open verge]

yes

the last middle one

[lime light]

are u ok

do u see whats there

to pick up

a 3 sec aoe stun

[open verge]

I mean the middle one is endurance+crit

[lime light]

when u drop below 35%

or u can pick whatever?

wait

no u cant pick it

[open verge]

Im just saying as much as 3s stun is great, dunno if its worth going finesse

supposedly 3s is off dr too?

[lime light]

i dont know

but u know how strong sub is, and gonna be prolly

so

i can see it being game changing also

when he dance on u

and u fucked up his dance cheap shots

[open verge]

yeah you're basically safe

[lime light]

so u can press something between

[open verge]

with healing +stun

[lime light]

but 2x thunder soulbind

is kenker

useless

do u know if "u" are an ally?

[open verge]

also im not so sure about kyrian for druid

[lime light]

if we are bite heavy spec, as we prolly gonna be

necro is trash

i cant see venthyr being good also, cuz of the main spell

being not soo great imo, for arena

[open verge]

if you can set up with hunter for convokes

it might not be bad

[lime light]

and door of shadowns are not great also

[open verge]

you can fairly easily force 5 bites in it

[lime light]

that shit from venthyr

seems to be op

10% dmg reduction below 40%

right now imo its between night fae vs kyrian

[obtuse ice]

lt me check those 2

Kyrian

[lime light]

https://www.twitch.tv/diabolus_esports

pre patch tournemnt

prolly super fiesta

[tribal kernel]

can anyone give me some general tips or direction for feral in arena?

i find myself not having a proper plan or if i have one it's quite difficult to execute

i have experience as a sub rogue so swapping ccing and such aren't a foreign thing to me

[knotty harbor]

Do resto and balance share the same gear in pvp?

Say I want to play healer in pvp but not in pve

Can I pve all the way with balance, also getting balance gear, but then playing healer in pvp?

[obtuse ice]

that should be doable yes

[empty sentinel]

Incap roar is physical spell that can be dodged and cant be used while silenced, could we get more negative sides

[obtuse ice]

Incap roar doesn't work on evas

Learned that today

🤣

[forest kite]

For resto pvp, Reactive Resin or Mark of the Wild as 3rd talent?
Other 2 are Focused Growth and Early Spring
I play a lot of bgs and enjoy wpvp
Regular talents are ward, wild charge, guardian, bash, soul, overgrowth, and germination. Feedback is apprecated

[magic viper]

Any good videos of resto druid arena PoV?

[rich crag]

Check for a guy named markers

[languid knot]

Whats looking best Covent for feral pvp?

[lime light]

all of them are good at some point

cuz of the tree u can choose

or the main abilites u get

but i would say kyrian>night fae

and night fae is super rng and easy to interrupt

[languid knot]

Ye I was thinking that but just wanted a few peoples opinions

[teal elk]

Atm what’s the best cov for resto arenas?

[chilly valve]

Necrolord

@teal elk

[patent dove]

i still wanna go with night fae just cause

[silent aspen]

Test

[wheat geyser]

Test test

[silent aspen]

im getting red text

[wheat geyser]

And you know what that means, right?

[silent aspen]

Discord is a pile of shit?

[obtuse ice]

https://tenor.com/view/no-u-keanu-reeves-no-you-you-pointing-gif-16078064

[wheat geyser]

^^

[candid moth]

so for arena, mostly 2s but some 3s too as Balance. Will you guys pick Kyrian as it stands now?

seems to me to be the best choice without anything coming close due to the heal/cleanse and 1min dmg cd

would hope for something else to be better tough because I dislike that whole Kyrian thing

[sour plinth]

im goin night faye, but cause i dont min max

[silent aspen]

Can anyone recommend me a good PvP rotation please?

From stealth* ?

[open verge]

depends what legendaries youre using

and talents

[silent aspen]

Speaking purely pre-patch

Using standard Feral Frenzy

[open verge]

rake>TF>rip>ff>bite?

[silent aspen]

Aye that's pretty much all im doing

Wasn't sure if there was scope for anything else/that I'm doing wrong

[forest kite]

Wasn't sure if there was scope for anything else/that I'm doing wrong
@silent aspen playing feral instead of sub

[silent aspen]

Yeah feeling that

[hardy apex]

Anyone know an addon or script to change arena nameplates to 1, 2, 3?

[rich crag]

Hopefully someone can make one like that to replace sortgroup since it seems abandoned. Sorting the team into 123 and also doing what you said

[harsh sky]

Yall ever just... climb to 1750 in a day cause why not

[lime light]

@hardy apex i do, u can try looking in my msg history

In feral channel

[hardy apex]

alrighty thanks

[lime light]

Otherwise i can send u but in a while, not sure when i will be on my pc

[hardy apex]

I'm having trouble finding it so just whenver you get a chance

[lime light]

/run local U=UnitIsUnit hooksecurefunc("CompactUnitFrame_UpdateName",function(F)if IsActiveBattlefieldArena()and F.unit:find("nameplate")then for i=1,5 do if U( F.unit ,"arena"..i)then F.name:SetText(i)F.name:SetTextColor(1,1,0)break end end end end)

I found it

[hardy apex]

Yeah I just did too lol

I need to do that every time I log on correct?

[lime light]

Ye

[hardy apex]

Or before every arena

just when I log on?

[lime light]

Just make macro for IT that u press after u log in

Ye

[hardy apex]

aight thanks mayne

[empty sentinel]

i want to go night fae but its going to be unplayable in arena cause almost every class summons 3+ minions.

[dire nymph]

There's an addon that does the same thing.
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/arena-nameplate-numbers

keep the script though

addons aren't always maintained

[rich crag]

@hardy apex I wonder if that will work if you use like KUI nameplates instead of default

[hardy apex]

i USE pLATER

Fucking caps.

I use Plater

[hardy apex]

kk thanks

[open verge]

8% flat buff to feral, noice

[smoky sail]

Another 150% buff and they can match boomy

[cold vale]

isnt feral already really good in pvp? bites can hit way harder than starsurges from what i've seen

i guess if you pool 3 surges and dump em all in a boat window, that might be more burst. both specs feel strong in shadowlands imo

[open verge]

feral is fine

[smoky sail]

No

Surge hit more and you can land 9 surges

But it's because of essences

9x10k surge is just unhealable #nerfmoonkin

[cold vale]

oh idc about prepatch shit; it's completely meaningless. i was talking shadowlands

[smoky sail]

Atm no class can match moonkin burst, but looking into sl iam very hyped play mk tbh

The new add utility feels real gud

And if they don't do tuning, but they'll do then we in a good spot

Dmg wise

[cold vale]

ret pallies on beta can do like 30k in one global, feral can bite for 60% of someone's hp with 1 button, ele burst is still super high. to say no class can match moonkin is just not accurate if you're talking shadowlands

[smoky sail]

Talking prepatch

100% no-one match moonkin burst

Even sub ret mm

[cold vale]

ok yeah i can believe that, but again, prepatch dmg is completely meaningless

[smoky sail]

Yes but it's fun

To bring back all those ret and sub to char selection in 2surge

[cold vale]

i'll have to try it out. how do you get 9x surges in a burst widow? you pool 3, then i can see getting enough AP for 2 more shortly after with solstice, fury of elune, or even warrior of elune. how do you generate that much AP?

[smoky sail]

In theory you pool 100 ap but in reality no need 50 is enuff

Pop lucid major + elune fury

And spam surge til they die

4 to 5 is generally enuff to kill by yourself xd

If no crit happen on 1st one + a full fury of elune is like 7k dmg

[cold vale]

ahh, forgot about lucid major. i'll try some boomkin ret 2s tomorrow 🙂

[smoky sail]

Was playing blood for 15k surge before but kinda yikes

Having to go melee + every class almost play blood and drest

So ppl react fast to bote

While here you can pump all ur dmg at 45yard

[forest kite]

Boomy will be good 1v1s and solo pvp in shadowlands?

[obtuse ice]

I don't think this class is meant to be strong in 1v1

Only if it's overtuned

but against melee you'll struggle I belive

[forest kite]

I destroy melees, i have hard time vs ranged. Vs melee i just bear form affinity to win

[past shore]

Quick question for resto PVP , Kyrian Kindred Spirits, is the empowerment of it Line of Sight? [Restoration - Kindred Focus Focus on your bonded partner, replicating 30% of all healing you deal onto them] can I be behind a pillar, activate it, and heal myself and heal the out of LOS partner?

[autumn cape]

good question

[lime light]

All of u disgusting

[obtuse ice]

EVEN ME ? @lime light

I thought we were friends

...

[tardy hare]

thanks

[tiny oar]

Thx Tian 🥰

[rich crag]

@hardy apex @lime light Just for your reference I checked and Kuinameplates actually does this by default without requiring any scripts. (Arena 1 2 3 on the nameplates)

[knotty harbor]

hows balance in 1vX scenarios

[lime light]

@obtuse ice u are fine

[turbid belfry]

resto affinity/wild charge or guardian affinity/renewal as balance in bgs?

[open verge]

I really like guardian on boomie

[obtuse ice]

I really likee boomy on guardian

[turbid belfry]

what about fury of elune/new moon, any use or just run the boring solstice?

[vapid comet]

Last I checked Fury of Elune is viable but New Moon doesn't really do that much

[wheat geyser]

For feral world pvp whats the best major essence? Botd or crucible flame ?

[turbid belfry]

i run the one that can proc incarnation so i can get combat prowl procs

[wooden silo]

What is seen as the best covenant for Feral PvP?

[open verge]

imho it's not an easy choice

for 2s convoke might be pretty damn good

while swarm seems consistent, at least at this point we're about big bites, so im not seeing huge value in it

probably on paper kyrian is the strongest in 3s

[wooden silo]

Oh, interesting that Kyrian is better for larger scale. So that’s also for BG’s?

[open verge]

it's good for burst windows, you put in on your other dps and you pump, I dont see much value in it in bgs

just because you need a partner to bond with

[wooden silo]

Ok

[open verge]

maybe somebody else can share his thoughts on this, because im also struggling to decide

[wooden silo]

Convoke seems like the most fun

[open verge]

you can get great value out of it with proper setup

the problem is with the setup itself, it can be really hard to pull this off

and ideally you want a single target with all bleeds up, all hots up on yourself and buffs applied 😄

so that you have a highest chance for bites

[wooden silo]

Can it still fire Frenzy, even if it’s on CD or not even a chosen talent?

[open verge]

yeah

[wooden silo]

Lol

[open verge]

same for rejuv

so you can get 5 bites + 5cp so another bite after

[wooden silo]

I’ll probably chose that then

[open verge]

yeah but keep in mind that a sneeze breaks the channel

and people will watch out for that

[wooden silo]

I know

My enemy will feel the dread when all stuns and silences are on CD and I pop that in his face

[open verge]

I really wish it had lower cd and lower value

2m is rough

also soulshape is kind of meh

[wooden silo]

Yep

[open verge]

so for high rated arenas probably kyrian is better

[wooden silo]

Karina has a damage mitigation ability, right?

Kyrian

[open verge]

no

[wooden silo]

Ok

[open verge]

there's a phial that heals and clears dots

[wooden silo]

Oh yeah

[open verge]

and kindred spirits is a dmg/heal amplify for you and your partner

[patent dove]

You can‘t dispell thoughsteal right?

[open verge]

no

[patent dove]

Ok

That spell is bullshit then

Why does it take rejuv and not some crappy cc like root

[obtuse ice]

🤣

[open verge]

could have taken cyclone ;d

8k bite is pretty nice in prepatch

thats with bt tho?

[obtuse ice]

YHEA

[open verge]

im not sure how I feel with bt vs frenzy

rake>rip>tf>zerk>frenzy>bite>slash>bite>slash>bite

[tribal kernel]

how do i get better at staying alive?

i'm running resto affinity with heart of the wild

but i either get stunlocked or just die if i get into caster form

[valid robin]

Iirc you wanna run guardian affinity and use ur frenzied regen, assuming you’re talking stunlocked vs rogues

[open verge]

@tribal kernel feral or boomie?

[valid robin]

Also can use bark skin on their shadow blades or vendetta , and will have ur incap roar to break up their goes

[tribal kernel]

@tribal kernel feral or boomie?
@open verge feral

[open verge]

prepatch or beta?

[tribal kernel]

prepatch

[open verge]

and are you well geared

[tribal kernel]

same ilvl as my rogue

on which i've had a bit more success

[open verge]

that doesnt tell us much

[tribal kernel]

i can't enraged regen if i'm going resto affinity right?

[open verge]

you cant

[tribal kernel]

yea

so should i abandon resto affinity?

[valid robin]

Prepatch is so bursty I’d think guard DR would be more helpful

[tribal kernel]

DR ?

[valid robin]

But I’m boom so idk feral

Damage reduction