Never seen it happen
#pvp
ebon vortex
theyre supposed to give 2 weeks notice
tardy hare
They will
forest kite
Is feral in SL god or potato?
tardy hare
lime light
below avarage dmg
forest kite
Poor dmg yikes
lime light
neither
forest kite
Auto attack?
lime light
nothing rly do dmg
forest kite
Lol
lime light
but its still too early
to tell how it will looks like
but right
a lot of healing
good cc
good survi
bad dmg
forest kite
There are 2 bleed legendaries and the necro Lord covenant
Like 40% more bleed dmg?
Is the necro Lord covenant dispell able?
lime light
its magic ye
but there was a bug
that u couldnt dispel any convenant abililtes
not sure if its fixed yet
necro was good, but they nerfed it by 50% randomly
forest kite
For the disc priest
Venthyr covenant ability is sad
Is there any other ability like this that is so pvp unfriendly?
lime light
why pvp unfriendly
u can dr yourself with the stun also
but idk
all the convenant for feral
seems trash to be
but necro
tardy hare
Necrolord gang
lime light
maybe night fae
but they nerfed it again no?
kyrian has nice Signature spell
but trash class ability
tiny oar
I just wanna be a nice fairy unicorn druid
Why blizz gotta go and make ugly necrolord bis
lime light
i will be honest
but sub looks so fucking broken and fun
in sl
lmao
feral does like super piss dmg
this is also fine 🙂
lime light
lol
tiny oar
Seems fine leave it in, fuck it blizz.
tardy hare
Depending on how easy alts are
As many as possinle
Possible
Glad mounts acc wide
My shittest alts be cruising on them
Walk up into 1600mmr arena
Lose
But atleast riding glad mount
obtuse ice
apparently
lime light
lol
obtuse ice
Feral
obtuse ice
it heals the ennemy?
obtuse ice
cool
forest kite
did they overbuff ele?
what is that machine gun in the vid?
Is high mountain feral any good in pvp?
I'm thinking of making another druid. can't decide between troll and high mountain
lime light
i wonder if u guys noticed that
if u wild charge in bear form
u have gcd on kick
thats dope btw 🙂
maiden viper
no srsly what happens in that cdew clip?
lime light
its shadowalnds
iam not sure i will rewatch
but they added something that
if u ascadance
u lavaburst everyone
ye
if u ascadance
u lavaburst everyone that got flame shock
maybe there is some interaction with one of the convenants
that buffs the lava burst
or in general
lava burst hits a lot
maiden viper
aha
lime light
this
he casted that
so
might be some chain reaction
and might be bugged
or in general its super strong together
cuz the new ascadance thingy
they added it not so long ago
and prolly forgot there is a convenant
that can make it chain reaction lmao
novel sky
Primordial wave, echoing shock and also they have a lego which procs ascendance
maiden viper
luckily the expansion is still several months away so there is plenty of time to squash all these broken thingsd right
lime light
so basiclly u hit everyone with lava burst from dance + that primodial wave
i mean its good
we can see it right now
thats a true testing
not season one testing
like in bfa
its good we see it now
maiden viper
I guess
lime light
so they will fix it
maiden viper
how is resto looking for pvp in sl?
forest kite
is high mountain stun any good in pvp?
i imagine it's usually a miss since u can get rooted or stunned mid run and can't use it everywhere
lime light
@forest kite no its not good
@maiden viper rdru soaked everything the best
from every spec
obtuse ice
flexing
dire nymph
slowly realizing that most high rated ferals are playing necro in arena on beta
rigid linden
wait till u realize that without drest reap were hunter pets
hushed bluff
dire nymph
drestagar trinket
usually you have to go 4-5 sources down on your damage breakdown to get to an actual feral ability
lime light
True
Last arena my last global was heroic drest crit for 132k
Legit the only ability that do anything is bt tf bite
lime light
Idk if u guys noticed
And remember
The bear form Wild charge had interrrupt
Classic-wotlk
And now if u Wild charge in bear form
U are locked on one gcd for kicki g
Lmao
forest kite
does necrolord ability increase dmg of non-class dots?
like trinkets, zandalari racial?
lime light
Super smooyh early on
We got like 2.8k mmr
After that Hunter died in Opener like in 5 or 6 games in a row
XD
To multiple comps
Kinda feed at the end, but its ok
But iam proud my last global in bfa arena
Was a drest for 132k on assa mongol
He was not happy
tardy hare
Hahahaha
Gg easy
Love smooth runs
Ours wasnt as smooth in the end
Fml
So many games in 1 day
tardy hare
Aye
slate nimbus
@lime light only 130k 
https://clips.twitch.tv/SlipperyOddDillCoolCat 
little forum
Is resto druid shit in 3s atm
lime light
But u are mythic drester
@little forum rdru is good if u Play mld or dh dk
And if u nelf it will help a lot
Cuz u wanna look for the drinks even if u 80% mana
Cuz im damp your mana goes like 3x times faster then other healers
I wouldnt say its shit, but there are better healers
But at the end if u Play properly u will be winning
little forum
Dh dk looks like something I’ll try, cheers. Tried dh/lock today which didn’t seem too bad too cos I could just freecast a lot
lime light
Dh dk u wanna Play as passive as possible
Sometimes with lucid
And Guardian affinity ofc
lime light
if the mage is playing gpyro he cant play imp
he should be swaping depends what he needs at the time
misty frigate
you mean swap pets during the game?
misty frigate
he will love it
tardy hare
@misty frigate i never played imp vs rmpala
Purge kicking hpal divine favor etc is so big against that
U can basicly force cloak+ sac in opener if u go rogie
Then kill him 2nd go
Big dam
tardy hare
Pala and mw monk are bis bis bis
Rdru kinda trash
But u want to have ineffable truth stacked tho
Can play without kind of
But with it its so free
Hpal mage lock is what i got glad with this ssn
tardy hare
Ok
Free rating
Go hpal
Hpal makes everything so much easier
Sac is up almost every go
U can spam holy shock
Divine favor is up every time u need it
Its ridiculous
My hpal had a game where he hoj'd
And jist hoj'd again straight off that one
Its so dumb
tardy hare
3judg is what most play i think ye
U just spam judge whenever u can
But u play lock/mage so kinda whateber
Just keep em alive
They do plenty of smg
Dmg
Are tour mage and lock vers stacked?
Or mastery mage, haste lock?
tardy hare
Aaah
Full vers makes it easier
But me and my mage were both full haste stackerboys when we got glad so its doable
But if you dont have vers hpal is gonna be even better than druid
Druid is gonna struggle so hard to keep up
tardy hare
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
This
I guesd
Think u just play vitality most of the times
Conflict vs some comps but idk which
🙃
Traits, judgement ones and idk the others
misty frigate
ok how do I play paladin against RMP?
tardy hare
I was too focussed on trying to play lock to pay attention to the hpal on my team for talents etc hshah
Uuuh depends
Just make sure u dont overlap too much
Vs rmp u can ususlly just sac opener
Also mage can just run in and get enemy in combat so u dont get dapped
Just double blink and stop em
Have lock havoc+coil mage+rog in opener
Spam fear poly when they pop shit
U can bop vendetta if necessary
Just dont overlap is main concern
I usually just mortal coil rogue mage
Fear mage
Blast the fuck out of rogue
Infernal everything
Has to cloak or get sacd
Else he dead
I have proper video of the mage pov from my games
But dont think it'll help much for hpala
Just dont overlap
Mage rogue is very scripted
They always do the same stuff
Very clear to see when they set up
Just dont waste kick on 3x dr polys etc
misty frigate
do I need to spread HA and wings?
tardy hare
If possible yeah
misty frigate
also do you ever play spirit of redemption?
tardy hare
Which ones that
tardy hare
Nah dont think u do
iirc
Very little amount of times where you cast flash heal ever
tardy hare
tardy hare
Closer to glad than to unranked
Aye
MLpala is for people without a brain
Hence why i played it
misty frigate
we are 2100 now
tardy hare
And succeeded somewhat
Aye its ridiculous
Its so free
Just pump damage and live
Game over
lime light
Boomy kinda trash in sl
formal wave
I live for the boom boom burst
that ele sham clip looked awesome but prolly getting nerfed
small storm
who else is ready for 3x feral in SL
forest kite
SL looks like rdruid good every other spec trash tier?
west laurel
Feral is good imo
dire nymph
feral damage is kinda meh, feral healing is kinda op
smoky sail
Hey is someone here have a clue how vitality conduit main work? (I know u can line his heal like: los/smokebomb) but is it possible to outrange it? Sometime playing MLD I feel like my dude get heald for nothing when they far
And when I watch awc they just preconduit the incoming go and they get top no matter what, when I get use it like on my mage 20%hp I feel like he get 10/20% hp bat healing, does it work exactly like slt and need something on range to steal hp?
tiny oar
Sum1 else has to be higher hp in LoS within 30 yards I think
Also doesn't transfer hp when ur silenced on it
smoky sail
OK so basically if we play castercleave with max range triangle positinnin then conduit main should have almost zero value right?
Oh wait like if u conduit someone and then cast get kicked the heals stop? XD
tardy hare
there's not a lot of times you're max range triangling tho
smoky sail
Wdym I mean we do Dat almost all the time so 1 caster get uptime when they cover at pilâr + avoid cleave
tardy hare
but you dont have both of them at like 40 yards anyway
smoky sail
Mmm true didn't u push as Mld this seas?
smoky sail
Did u know if ur pally play conflict or vita main?
tardy hare
but its closer to like 25-30 yards than 40 most of the time
both, depending on matchup
but idk which comps
usually conduit tho
smoky sail
Conduit 100% on caster I guess but dunno gainst meleecleave
smoky sail
I wonder why there's no team running rdru at awc this year 
tardy hare
smoky sail
Mana wise it's disgusting not having meld like I have ne alt dru and I almost done same rating as main just cuz u can drink legit midmap or get the rakestun win in midmap x)
With like 30 less ilvl and 2green essence xD
Like when u have lock pet on ur feet u have to root then cross pilâr + hope ur bud doesn't die in between + have to fake lock pet and only after all this u pray nobody come stop ur drink
When on ally u just shit on the pet meld drink gg 
But if u play full mastery ur healing is big spare u lot of mana, but then 0 vers and if ur bud doesn't peel correctly then u die so ez on stuns
smoky sail
Lol
90% of full gush have 0 braincell
Was playing with a dh last night he didn't even play reverse he trinket a sheep and then he die on smokebomb cuz no trinket and tell me "learn to play against mage" 
Nice 2.4xp dh
All rmp will blow ur dh after 2.2 xD
Or any mld/castercleave
tepid spoke
I know thats why he plays full gush or full vers vs rogue comps
Still ez wins with braindead class
smoky sail
As I said 90% of lfg dh just win by dmg, when u start fight à real comp u dead xD
When some mechanics are involve u have no chance
Those ppl gonna back to 1600 when corruption will be removed
lime light
Rogue mage is more mongo then a dh
forest kite
Hey guys in pvp for shadowlands , how does the armor set or pvp gear work...or how do u get it? Like do I need to play arena get a certain railing or cap my conquest ?
I’d appreciate any advice thank u
lime light
first u have a gear that u can buy using "honor"
that is a currency in sl
the gear can be upgraded also using honor
till LFR ilvl KEKW
after that u have conquest gear
works the same, can be upgraded
but currency is conquest
i dont know if u need X rating to upgrade item to Y
iam not sure about this one
odd juniper
Will we be able to get mythic ilvl gear from pvp?
fervent granite
we dont know yet if we'll be able to get up to mythic ilvl gear with pvp
possible it goes up to 226 but not 233, we'll have to see
lime light
isnt the cancelform at the end
fucking everything up
since u can cancelform anytime, when u are on gcd
i think u are overthinking it a bit
if u are in form, and u press the macro/the bind when u enter a form again
u will unshift also
so cancelform is prolly useless there
so the nostance command
i dont think so it can work this way
#showtooltip
/cast [talent:3/1] Moonkin Form
/cast [talent:3/2] cat form
/cast [talent:3/3] bear form
if u press again u will unshift, but if u are on global
u wont
#showtooltip
/cast [talent:3/1] Moonkin Form
/cast [talent:3/2] cat form
/cast [talent:3/3] bear form
/cancelform
u can use it this way
so if u are on global, u will still cancelform
but if u press it twice
just to shift
u will shift into form and cancel
in same global
i would suggest making 3 binds
one for cat form
one for bear form
and cancelform
heavy cairn
@covert dirge if you are in cat form and someone casts hib on you just hit cat form again to go back to human form
Just bind all forms and gg you’ll be good
turbid belfry
dumb question, why can a rogue stun lock me for 10 seconds but when i stealth rake + mighty bash + maim it only lasts half as long?
tardy hare
A rogue cant stun lock you for 10s either
Besides doing rake bash maim in a row
Is not worth it at all
lime light
Nathria Trinket / Nathria Trinket (DNT): Use: Unleash 3 incendiary flames at your target inflicting 3970 Fire damage. (1 Min, 30 Sec Cooldown)
little drest for little jungle ofc
polar nymph
I hate these kinds of trinkets.
teal hinge
More burst nice
shrewd mesa
Since you're talking about macros, unrelated question - can you make a macro that shifts into travel if it is available, but cat if it is not?
unrelated to pvp
Wow just noticed that was from hours ago...
winter kelp
/cast [outdoors] Travel Form; Cat Form
stray sigil
why would u want a macro like that im curious
winter kelp
probably so you can press 1 key and if you're outside you get travel form if you're inside you get speed boost for cat form, though i don't think cat form gets a speed bonus for being in it anymore.
when i used it, it was a long time ago because of kitty form speed buff
maybe he's spamming travel form to escape roots when kiting and if he's indoors he'd at least like to get out of the roots without having to use a diff key?
lime light
Ppl making macros that are half functionable
Thinking they can save one or two macros
Just bind your shit
Its not many spells
forest kite
does shattering throw go thro aspect of turtle too in jungle?
quartz swallow
Quick question for arena's: What binds do you all have for arena1/2/3 and party 1/2/3 macros? I'm trying to get away from clicking my targets; hoping to get away from the 1,700 slump. Note: All my other abilities are bound and used efficiently.
Note: I use a Logitech G00 Mouse with 12 buttons on side. And I use a Razer Orbweaver (practically unlimited binds). I also have my shift forms already bound to Shift + Mouse Wheel (up, down, right, left and press)
tepid flame
Asd and then shift+asd
keen phoenix
Tbh I just want a spec I can push high in 2s. Got to 2,3 in bfa, and really want that 2,4. You guys reckon feral will be good with mage? Or will feral again be just a worse rogue for that comp?
In SL that is
tiny oar
I use the same mouse and 2 rows of buttons for targeting, 1 for party 123, one for arena123 and shift modifiers for dispell 123 and clone 123 @quartz swallow
tardy hare
I just click targets and have arena123 macros for stuff like clone
queen copper
@tepid flame same here. Clone asd, root shift asd
I don’t think those macros keep you in the 1700s though tbh @quartz swallow
patent dove
I have target hotkeys for party but click targets. Play whatever you enjoy the most because that is what you will want to play on. With enough practice, every single specc can reach 2.4.
@keen phoenix
small storm
i use scroll up scroll down scroll click for tar a123
small storm
im actually a noob and just added that because i dont want to change any other binds... already using shift and alt mods for my fav buttons... weirdly have kick on shift 2 which should really be like f, shift f, alt f etc
lime light
Yup scroll is bis
Pretty much
Scrolls click target 123
Focus with shift
+cyclone roots kick 123
sour plinth
alt123 for enemy target, altqe for party lol
faint egret
hi can anyone help me with targeting keybind in arena?
i currently have this problem of miss targeting the pet of my partner instead of the player, i use mouse scroll up for party member 1, down for party 2, middle mouse for self targeting. but if i scroll up or down too much it will target the pet. any macro or tips to get around that issue?
dire nymph
I also have a logitech g600 and have a bit of a weird hybrid setup. 1-6 on the mouse are my rotation abilities, 7-9 utility and other things like my trinket.
Then the rest I mostly bind on my keyboard and use shift/ctrl/alt modifiers for arena 1/2/3. Q, E,R,F,Z,X,C,V. Might add T and G if I need them
My mouse buttons are actually bound to function keys, so I use 1-3 for target enemy, shift 1-3 for target party and alt 1-3 for focus.
I like the scroll wheel targeting but I've never had a mouse where scroll click feels comfortable and I won't accidentally scroll up or down
sudden cypress
sand spade
Heard boomy is gonna be poop in rated pvp, unless they can get off some good convokes in "go" windows?
wise valley
kinda still in love wit my ex too ya boi all in his feelins rn
obtuse ice
love you braed
cold vale
@nova minnow in arena: moonkin aura, celestial guardian against any wizard team since you'll prob be focused, dying stars is ok, thorns/faerie swarm against melee. deep roots, prickling thorns, crescent burn, protector of the grove and high winds are all pretty bad overall.
nova minnow
ty ty
cold vale
in rbgs it's prob similar, but dying stars goes up in value
oh i was assuming you meant pvp talents, not traits. sry if i misunderstood lol
formal wave
give me some good ol tips as resto druid vs assa rogues in 2v2
i keep getting my shit pushed in
formal wave
how come i didnt see any resto druids during the arena tournement?
ebon vortex
because hpalla and monk exist
formal wave
i dont understand how anyone can enjoy arena atm with all these rogues sprinting around the arena with full gushing wound or some guy that gets a twisted appendage proc during kidney, and feel like and hard to kill people through bubble and cocoon
ION FUCKED UP BIG THIS TIME
ebon vortex
yeah it sucks as well because resto druids dont scale amazingly in arena with corruption compared to some other classes
ineffable paladin existing makes me want to die
formal wave
like i'm playing 2v2 with a dh friend, and even at 1400 rating we were running into rogues with full gushing wounds, and my friend only got 3
rogues fucking kill me too
ebon vortex
yeah gl with arena without corruption
if youve not stacked the fuck out of vers you will die very fast
formal wave
we tried 3's instead and it is way harder
ebon vortex
likewise if your dps dont have good corruptions notihing will die
tho i have pushed higher this season than i ever managed to before lmao
3s is always harder than 2s anyway
more balanced but harder
formal wave
I struggle against rogues who always seem to catch up to me and never run out of damage and mages combusting
ebon vortex
rmx 🙂
best advice is stack more vers and maybe use vitality conduit
pick gurdian affinity if you arent already
formal wave
i always use it
annoying thing about vitality conduit is that its in azhara pleasure palace and i started playing again a month ago
formal wave
we've managed to get to 1900 and pretty much hit a wall endless amount of rogues with full corruptions
wondering if i'm better off going dps and just try to kill someone
ebon vortex
yeah i was p. much same
we pushed 1.8 with my lock friend having like 2 corruptions and blue essences
got hardstuck
soon as we got gear took us a week to push 2.1k
formal wave
like i've managed to get gear but i was unlucky and didnt get any vers on my items
so i'm never sure if i should use my max ilvl stuff or items 15-20 lower with vers
ebon vortex
corruptions also factor in massively
full vers corruptions give you like 40-50% vers
ebon vortex
rogues are just awful rn lmfao
formal wave
they both kill your char in game and soul in real life
ebon vortex
pop vendetta and blind you
trinket
heal through vendetta
you get kidneyed while rogue has no cds up
drest + gush kills your teammate
formal wave
i've actually won vs a lot of rogues who for some reason try to kill my DH instead of me
formal wave
i think he could do better
ebon vortex
bash/stomp + clone is always helpful to gain distance and get a breather to heal too
root and vortex can help
formal wave
I use kul tiran racial + cyclone
ebon vortex
thats the knockback + stun right
formal wave
yeah
1 sec cast, knockback + 3 second stun
tiny bit of damage too
knocks them about 20 yards so perfect for cyclone
i've actually won games on blade edge arena that I should have lost by knocking them off the bridge
ebon vortex
lmfao
tricking people into jumping off the bridge with wild charge is also always fun
formal wave
holy palas are hardest for sure, they can do nasty amount of damage and got fucking bop for rogues, divine shield for themselves, also have annoying CC on top the rogues
MW not as tough since they tend to run out of mana fast
ebon vortex
holy palas also have ineffeble so they barely even have to hard cast
formal wave
but often rogue has easily managed to kill one of us
the match up i'm not sure of is disc priest + rogue
like we are never sure who we should focus
ebon vortex
with a disc i always find the best way to win is to just hit whoever until they're oom
they pump damage but they oom super fast
formal wave
disc do nasty amount of damage
ebon vortex
yeah full gushing disc is painful
formal wave
Like the only people we lose against is assa rogues and sometimes fire mage
but ladder is full of them lol
all thing we get
We cheer and clap when we get something other than a rogue
formal wave
i think we'll stick to 2v2s
just pray we dont get assa rogues
i have no idea how to win it
ebon vortex
could also try sitting your dh on their healer
w/ mana rift
pull the rogue away from your dh and force him to retreat back to their healer
formal wave
that sometimes works vs MW, never against palas though they never run out of mana
nagrand arena is the worst
one idea is to start using conflict and strive major
take less damage during those kidneys
dunno about 2 minors though
sullen marsh
hey guys im a feral finally got the vers mast ring i wanted what corruption would you put on it thats available right now i missed out on grabbing a few spare r3 versatile yesterday :/
stray sigil
vers procs not awful
lime light
Versa proc, versa lower % amp
tight glen
Do you guys think feral+affliction will be okayish in 3s?
tiny meadow
I'm not sure if I'm undertanding this right but i'm reading that CC break trinket is returning
Does this mean the PVP talent is going away?
misty frigate
yes, there is no pvp talent on beta right now
tiny meadow
Okay cool, thank.
ebon vortex
so w/ the new pvp changes what do you guys think restos new stat priortiy will be
vers/mastery or vers/haste
or maybe vers/mastery+haste
honest widget
With the swiftmend legendary extending the duration of our hots i would say mastery is the way to go
fervent granite
Guess it depends how much of an issue purge/offensive dispel is
honest widget
Im going to try and get the lifebloom leggo to run against purge heavy teams, maybe get a vers/haste set too for those situations
lime light
Anyone belive they will bug out the Guardian slow
And feral gets 50% slow by mistake
🙏
surreal heron
😡
lime light
Dont snitch
fervent granite
@honest widget what do you consider to be a purge heavy team? any time there is a priest/shaman?
honest widget
yeah basically lol
upbeat steppe
jagged grail
oh for those with beta access what was the first conquest reward item in shadowlands ?
naive hatch
New guardian druid changes make them possibly usable in arena?
tiny oar
^
winter kelp
usable in arena why? because they got a slow?
forest kite
is feral slow 50% now?
obtuse ice
Yes
forest kite
Yeah I dont really know what I'm doing and I'm afraid to ask questions in the balance channel for making a boomkin
teal hinge
Haha
Does that channel look that intimidating
@Glade Lord Buckeye#4376 boomkin channel is talking to you
dreamy violet
yo boys and grillz. anyone here who can answer a question regarding feral macro?
dreamy violet
did solve it myself. ty 🙂
patent dove
rip master shape shifter
novel sky
F
pearl estuary
best covenant for resto as far as pvp?
tender bluff
What happened to master shapeshifter?
patent dove
it will now only empower bleed damage while in cat form
tender bluff
Shiii
patent dove
however, it will instead boost damage in moonkin form instead of just reducing cast time, which means that balance might do serious damage with it
balance aff
novel sky
NEW Gladiator's Distinction The damage and healing benefit of Versatility is increased by 20% when in Arenas, Battlegrounds, and War Mode.
Does this mean that, for example, if you have 10% vers you get 12%?
dark scroll
Sounds like it.
novel sky
Pretty meh
dark scroll
That a trinket or something?
patent dove
that is not enough to prevent people from using a raid trinket
novel sky
Definitely not
dark scroll
Feral + Mythic AA Lifesteal trinket? :P
fiery heart
well I guess I'm not playing resto in SL, though that's what I get for basing my spec on one single PVP talent (master shapeshifter)
they literally took away the one thing that made that interesting/fun
disc priest it is!
dark scroll
disc priest it is!
@fiery heart
Resto Shaman could be fun ;)
forest kite
rsham is rekt
fiery heart
eh, I like the playstyle of being able to do damage as a healer
dark scroll
Earth Shield legendary just seems fun to me
fiery heart
feral affinity resto was so fun
dark scroll
Frost shock is useful
And graphics, just go full meme, go for the bleed legendaries and conduits lmao
fiery heart
MS made 2's fun
stray sigil
@clear pulsar r u ded brother
forest kite
maybe MS is not bad
people are losing shield and azerite defensives
dots may rot hard
dark scroll
Dots definitely rot harder than they do in BFA
BFA has way too much passive sustain to see certain specs thrive as much as they usually would
This is not a fact, just my bias.
Because I want my meme dream comp to work
Kyrian Feral / Kyrian Feral / Disc Priest
dire nymph
Really? I hated the venthyr leather
forest kite
Hey so far I’m sure feral will be better than DH’s but how do u see them doing compared to frost Dks or warriors? U think feral will be very good pvp wise
obtuse ice
yes
obtuse ice
Yes
tight glen
I really want to play FLX in season 1
forest kite
we could maybe get 3 bites in a bash stun with the legendary i think
with the honot talent buff that is 3x bite dmg + 20% max hp
is the pvp bite dmg nerf still there on SL?
formal wave
Is there any resto druid streamer that does 2v2 with DH where i can watch and learn?
orchid rock
what are the best comps above 2.4 for a boomy in 3s
obtuse ice
Yes
smoky sail
Boomy / sv look nut tbh
Was lookin coricky facil and lontar playing it last seas with like 80% winrate
Big cc chain, good sustain, good burst, good peels, mortal strike
obtuse ice
Ywes
agile basin
BoomixToday at 3:31 PM
Hey do someone know if the legendaries work also in pvp?
nova shuttle
yeah they do
agile basin
where do i find pvp fights? there are no groups in the customs ore regulars
obtuse ice
Y es
amber dawn
@agile basin arena skirmish
tight glen
Is feral that bad?
obtuse ice
yes
tight glen
Even in SL?
lime light
the problem with feral is
they dont do damg
in sl
but a lot of healing + good cc
decent survi
depends how metagame will be
if there is a place for pure hybrid
there shouldnt be a problem
stray sigil
did blizz say anything about removing the rotation from corruption vendor before prepatch?
obtuse ice
yes
stray sigil
@obtuse ice fuk u
obtuse ice
ywes
teal hinge
Very yes
stray sigil
say yes one more time u baguette see what happens
obtuse ice
oui
sand spade
Feral Survivability much better with Barkskin?
obtuse ice
ofc*
forest kite
ret on beta sounds really scary with the recent buffs
templar's verdict doing a aton
digital sandal
How’s balance looking for pvp in SL?
obtuse ice
It's looking yes
signal willow
What’s looking like the top rdruid covenant for slands pvp? Anyone know? Only logged into the beta once so far haha
dire nymph
I think I see most people defaulting to necrolord for arena but also lots and lots of testing
I'd expect kyrian or necro
Maybe venthyr is better now too since the drawback was nerfed by 2/3rds
lime light
Feral Survivability much better with Barkskin?
@sand spade not sure about that chief
U lose one si stack
And they made si way longer cd
sand spade
Whats the CD on SI? Will it be back up for enemy dps cooldowns?
I assumed it would be, which made getting BS over a stack of SI a buff
wind hatch
Maybe they dont want us in cat form that long?
dire nymph
I actually think I decided I'm going venthyr after they nerfed the drawback
it's good for all content now
stray sigil
what did they nerf about venthyr
novel sky
You take 1% damage per stack if you pop instead of 3%
dire nymph
before you could get stunned for half your hp at higher stacks
novel sky
So u won’t explode anymore at max stacks if u mess up
dire nymph
too risky in arena
but now it's not that bad
and it can't get kicked like necro/night fae
and kyrian is boring
and you have to rely on a teammate
rancid pebble
I wonder with the change to master shapeshifter how the necrolord dot buff will work
patent dove
Night fae is still best i think. Especially if you want to multispecc in pve as well
tardy hare
Necrolord ganggggg
obtuse ice
Gang gang
lime light
G@ng g@ng
tiny oar
I despise having to play necrolord
sand spade
I would rather necro than kyrian or ven, hoping for NF though
forest kite
What’s more difficult to play properly in pvp feral or frost dk. If anyone has played both thank you....
spiral badge
Is boomie or feral looking like the play for pvp?
dire nymph
i've been watching syfoxe a lot lately and he seems to think feral is in a really good spot
just below the outliers like sub
overall damage is average but the bites are big and utility/off healing really strong
forest kite
Wonder how good that utility or off healing is when you’re being trained
obtuse ice
yes
honest widget
Necrolord is SO BAD for anything that isnt pvp
for rdruid
Like its such shit. I'm glad Night Fae is sorta ok for pvp since its BIS for pve
stiff spruce
Is it cause of conduits or just the ability?
dusty sphinx
The shield is extremely situational in pve and the dot/hot isn't great either
dire nymph
Being trained should be better for feral since guardian affinity is better
Resto affinity really strong in 2s or potentially in certain 3s matchups.
spiral badge
Fae is BIS for pve? I thought venthyr was
spiral badge
oh. Onahail mentioned it, assumed there was data
dire nymph
Now nobody knows for sure
There are some beta logs, but they don't mean much
Stuff changing very rapidly
I'd go night fae if you care about resto for pve
I will play some guardian too probably so I'm going venthyr
north grove
guys
my guild is doing a 1v1 league, the fights will be in a spot with LoS and we need to accept duel in order to fight
everything is allowed (drums, health potion, pre potion etc)
im feral druid and ill face one enhance shammy
my mate said hes going to trick me with hit kill (i dont have idea how its going to work)
but i dont know how to counter this, i saw that shammys were doing hit kill on normal nzoth by doing some tricks
any suggestions?
if its a fair fight i can handle him, but if he goes with pet that reveals invisible or dont let me open him with stealth+Rake stun
obtuse ice
yes
north grove
._.
spiral badge
Cool, thanks! I'll check it out
honest widget
I wish Necrolord was better so I could justify using it because I love pvp
But in PvE its just, hot garbage
dire nymph
I wish there was some conduit or something that would put out 2-3 of the dots
it legit needs at least that to make it competitive
honest widget
It needs to spread in an aoe
My suggestion to blizzard was you put the dot on someone, and if you press the button again it spreads out, evenly spreading its % boost to multiple targets
Or you can pull it back to 1 target
Or you can target someone else and have it move to them
None of this random jumps between enemy and ally
I want to put it who I want to put it on
obtuse ice
Yes
patent dove
@lime light what do you mean bugging amps?
toxic orbit
Will Feral druids 'suffer' in 2s because of lack of mortal strike?
maiden viper
they have other angles of attack for winning
stray sigil
feral never been bad in 2s and we never had ms
worthy field
Balance druids thinking Kyrian or Nightfae for pvp? The Pelagos soulbind for Kyrian looks insanely strong. But the Korayn Nightfae soulbind also looks kinda nutty and convoke is... convoke. Convoke casting starfall may be an issue in pvp though. Pretty sure it hits sheeps.
worthy field
Aight cool
spiral badge
I wanna do balance in PVP but I hear its so garbo in general atm
I figure I can main feral in pve/pvp until balance gets buffed. Tank dungeons for gear. It'll all workout.
dire nymph
honestly feral can top themselves in a few globals too
wonder why boomie is so different?
forest kite
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THE BEST RACE FOR PVP FERAL MIGHT BE THANK U
and sorry for caps my bad
stray sigil
@dire nymph feral healing is not that good lol
not like regrowths are different from boomy to feral
that shit is horrible for the mana cost
dire nymph
Idk if you've tried arena on beta but I'm not just saying my personal opinion
that is what I hear from every awc feral player that I can find a stream for
Strength of the wild is usually enough
but hotw healing can full heal in like 3 globals
what else do you use mana on?
talking about mana cost on a dps lul
stray sigil
idk if u memem
but for the amount of mana a ret spends
they heal a shitton more
lul tho
sand spade
I know we dont like the new swiftmend, but whats the healing on it like? with instant regrowth proc into swiftmend, got to do well right?
turbid pebble
Hi guys! I started playing resto druid in 2 vs 2 and I am finding when we play against 2 dps, they destroy me in seconds, I was playing haste mastery and now increased my versa to try to life against the opponents burst, but still find it difficult
playing CaS major to try survive, but still some compositions just destroy me
sand spade
Yup, corruptions are busted right now, that plus PvE trinkets make it very easy to train healers.
Think you need to stack Vers, learn to pre bear, and get some help from your partner.
My Vers is like 35% and I still get melted out of bear haha
turbid pebble
is just crazy! I guess I have to play better with bear form
sand spade
Or just wait till SL :)
turbid pebble
I'll like to get the mount
sand spade
But yeah, bear and help from partner imo
turbid pebble
stuck on 1600
turbid pebble
I am playing with a beast mastery hunter
against healer dps we do well but with the double dps 
sand spade
We came back to wow a few weeks ago to do some arena, had no corruptions or anything. What we found was this mess haha. Really struggled against double DPS with a DH. I have taken a break till SL now though, hoping to do better there :)
ebon vortex
I play with a lock friend against double dps, normally I run totem and safeguard while he runs claw which most of the time buys enough time for him to kill at least 1 dps
obviously depends on the dps and how they play mostly but popping overgrowth and just sitting in bear and using totem when nessecary seems to work
tepid spoke
Your dh needs to sit priest
And your druid has to be really agressive with cyclones and restealths
Thats all
Track dark soul and hide/chain cc for the duration
Root the pet, run, restealth
Its a hard match for sure but doable
You shouldnt go for clones if you dont stun first
Rake stun, fake clone for cs, clone
If you dont get it just run after being csd
Thats all you can do really
Root pet behind pillar, meld stun clone
A lot of plays you can do
Bash pet
Clone lock
Etc
If you play full def with bear aff youll prolly lose that matchup
livid heart
Should be running tree form for double dps burst
tepid spoke
Mc shares dr with fear xd
I play same comp as you
Thats how i win
Im the druid too
I clone priest low on guardian
Or clone a greater cast
And keep rotating clones on lock
Conflict always
Always as in always
Your dh will do the dps
You dont need crucible in this comp
Crucible is for like druid lock
Druid mage
Etc
We have tried going full gush botd
With lock
But.
Versa conflict seems to be better vs lock priest
And rogue disc
We 2.4k
Your dh will likely die in the shadowfury stun
If he has no vers or conflict
And the chastise stun
And going full vers will let him tank the lock more while training and burning priest
Yeah most ppl train lock
We train priest
Seems to work for us
Also going conflict you can play focused growth clone and mark
So that helps too
brave vortex
Is feral/disc looking like a decent comp in SL?
brave vortex
Just found out it’ll actually be 3s feral/disc/rogue (probably sub)
stray sigil
@lime light yep ret healing so bad 
obtuse ice
yes
tiny oar
forest kite
is troll a good druid feral race for say pvp
lime light
its ok
heavy cairn
@lime light can’t wait to see how much stuff gets hot fixed the first week arena in shadowlands is out! I just hope I don’t get forced to swap cov’s because mine gets nerfed to the ground 🙂
stray sigil
u already know each cov is gonna get nerfed to the ground eventually anyways
fringe mulch
how is venthyr looking for feral
obtuse ice
Yes
trail sorrel
How do shapeshift in Arena? What keybinds do u use and are there any good macros with shapeshifting?
obtuse ice
F1 f2 f3 f4 personally
There a macro that cast human form and then leap
When you target an ally, pretty useful
trail sorrel
Im a druid newbie. And u got ur healing spells also in ur feral/bear bar?
So u just Shift in with ur f-keys and shift out by pressing ur abilities?
formal wave
who should you generally try to kill as dh/resto druid vs survival disc priest
cunning mural
I use X, as cat form, Z, as bear form, Shift C, for travel and Shift G for Boomkin
I also set up F to be my talent stun, G to be my Tauren AOE stun, R to be Wild Charge and T to be my silence.
trail sorrel
and u use ur healing abilities to shift out?
cunning mural
What do you mean?
trail sorrel
when u are in bear for example
cunning mural
Typically I just press the key binding of whatever shape I am in.
trail sorrel
to exit and heal
cunning mural
So in that example, I would just press Z again
and then proceed to heal myself
Then press Z again, to get back into bear
trail sorrel
dont u waste a global then?
cunning mural
How?
Z is Bear form
To get in and out of it I simply press Z. I don't have my heals set to any keybinding. I just simply click on Regrowth
tepid flame
Its good comp rdruid+rogue ?
dire nymph
I find it easier to bind a cancelform macro
it's all the same though, no disadvantage either way
cunning mural
For me, I feel like having each individual form keybinded, allows me to better preform my class. I don't have to stop what i'm doing to have to go click a form button. I simply press Z, X, or Shift C to enter and exit forms.
rigid linden
all forms should be bound
With the exception obvs of like tree form or someweird shit like balance affinity boomy form
heady vessel
nah, gotta bind tree form, how else are you gonna quickly go into the tree and dance on ppls corpses?
obtuse ice
Wtf tree form so important
dawn sundial
You guys done any thinking which legendaries are the best for ferals in SL?
sick reef
With the stuff changes so fast on Beta sometimes
Its kinda hard to put any predictions in
Legendaries have been under the radar for now
smoky sail
Sephuz
forest kite
does anyone know if honor levels reset in prepatch/SL?
tepid spoke
it should not
trail sorrel
How are restos looking in 2s in shadowlands?
tepid spoke
you also take 20% more damage from fire mages