If u got no versatile it will give u 0.5something
#pvp
compact tide
More
So it depens if u need that 0.5-0.8 vers
Im my case if u strugle to aurvive mos matches just go vers
manic arrow
Usually I don't so I'll try to balance it I guess
Going full vers means I will have all items vers/haste
Which is meh
Something like that unbuffed rn
And I still have few pieces with vers/crit to replace
Playing MLD
inner smelt
What trinkets would you chose in 2s as feral?
drest + bike?
or drest/bike + insignia
lime light
@vestal citrus could be u
@inner smelt drest bike if only way to kill your enemy is one deag, otherwise drest insignia
Depends on ilvls also
But both set ups are good
inner smelt
I feel like it would be really nice to havee something else except drest for some juicy pressure on maims
sacred path
Does a warrior’s spell reflect work against a priests mind control?
Oh I’m in the Druid channel my b XD
smoky sail
tropic schooner
no
tiny oar
I got called garbage by another MW for queuing TSG today
They were playing havoc prot pally
Enjoy ur daily dose of stupid
wise raft
what are good boomie 2s double dps talents
inner smelt
As i only have 1 vers amp atm, would it be worth to buy 3-4 gw once its out and then buy some vers or would i be better off waiting for full vers? i just got all r3 essences and full vers/mast gear + mythic weapon
vast vapor
just buy gushings and then buy versas
so much time to farm for all
FMP with fire and disci feels so god damn hard to play against anything
lime light
ofc feral is scuffed rogue
naive igloo
[resto] does nourish essentially replace regrowth in pvp? or is there a non-fringe benefit to use regrowth separately?
tropic schooner
@clear pulsar 
clear pulsar
They don't replace one another
Nourish is its own spell that isn't buffed by things like SOTF or Spirit of Preservation minor
So you'd still press Regrowth
Don't put them on the same bind and just replace for pvp like how unholy dks do with necro strike
naive igloo
oh yeah... forgot about those interactions, thanks :)
quasi shadow
ebon salmon
i wanted to pvp with feral a bit, but i heard full haste/vers from one and full mastery/vers from the other guildmate. which one is correct? haha i'm kind of lost
obtuse ice
Mastery versa
ebon salmon
tyvm
obtuse ice
Npvm
tropic schooner
@quasi shadow kill him
vast vapor
the versa/crit build with jf/hod will probably be pretty good
got 39% versa and get to 72% crit with TF up already
vast vapor
are any of the high rated ferals playing with BT anymore
vast vapor
yeah lol just got his armory open and it shows BT yeah
my brain hurts trying to use it optimally in arena situations
but wonder if its any good in 2s
stray sigil
def feels better in 2s than it does in 3s
vast vapor
maybe with giga damage build with gushings it would pump even more
stray sigil
i mean with or without gushings
vast vapor
I mean you could prolly do overwhelming damage instead of just chill damage and wait for burst?
stray sigil
bt is more dmg than ff over the course of a game
vast vapor
yeah
stray sigil
its just somewhat awkward cuz feral doesnt feel like a consistent dmg spec anymore
vast vapor
definetely not
stray sigil
which is why ff is usually picked over bt
vast vapor
I also feel like drest trinket is like half of my character
stray sigil
but i know cassidy is def a pro bt user
talked to him about it he'd play bt like 90% of the time
stray sigil
its really not that bad
its just muscle memory
just do a bunch of pve with bt
and ull get around the awkwardness of it pretty fast
vast vapor
feral pve LUL
stray sigil
just for muscle memory
stray sigil
feels very nice vs dks and locks in 2s
vast vapor
atleast it promotes actually using regrowths in arena
stray sigil
its like
vast vapor
tony seems to have BT on in armory too and 3x JF hmmm
stray sigil
when you use shred rake and trash in quick succession
ur next 2 rip/bites are 30% bigger
stray sigil
feels weird they put thrash in there for me but idk ig
ya its just rips or bites now
no rakes or shreds or brs
which is kinda lame
vast vapor
just when I thought imma learn this 200iq spec its gonna be 20iq
stray sigil
prob still 4 months of this shit expac
prob still worth trying out
makes the class more fun to me
ff is kinda boring
vast vapor
damn
fickle junco
mechagon laser is fun. DH go up to do their fel lance thing and im like oh good, now you cant get away or heal~
lime light
A lot of ferals playing bt again
rich steppe
Is vitality conduit a relative must have for 2s as resto? I’m wondering if it’s beneficial to farm since I missed out not getting it in 8.2? Coming back after a break.
blissful jackal
How viable is boomy in pvp atm
tropic schooner
moonkin got quite a bit better recently
and one moonkin being glad is quite a bit off
clear pulsar
There are
Multiple people in glad
There is one guy in the top 10 NA, and a handful in the top 200 EU
tropic schooner
lazer is over 2.9
moonkin is still the worst druid specc but not quite unplayablee
clear pulsar
I know it's hip and and cool to say your spec is bad and pretend it's holding you back from higher ratings, and sure enough destro is busted, so is rmpal with triple spite, but let's at least be truthful
There is way more than 1 glad boomie
vast vapor
anything with lock is a glad
tropic schooner
at least im playing
shadowplay
not double destro
tbf
feral
isnt worse than lock
vast vapor
but is it purely because of one comp as in jungle
tropic schooner
thats true fewer options to play
vast vapor
in my eyes that makes it worse if you can play lock with anything but feral with hardly anything
tropic schooner
which makes it harder to pug
vast vapor
but then again there is rmp that always makes mage and rogue good even if they had no other comps
clear pulsar
And EU teams were picking turbo to counter jungle
vast vapor
whats the setup for spite in jungle
stray sigil
feral isnt worse than lock 
manic arrow
Should I switch my talents somehow against rmp as rdrood?
Maybe relentless over medallion
Or ToL
fickle junco
players not paying attention. swapped the cart route 3-4 times behind them. so it went the long way
stray sigil
that was some insane iq comment for sure
ebon salmon
vers or gushing for feral? or even mastery
manic arrow
Guys, I'm playing MLD with 466 mage, he has around 430K hp so enemies pushing him 24/7
I'm getting oom fast and can't drink with that pressure
What to doin such case?
We are struggling at 1800, especially against turbo and mirror with pally
lime light
get gear
vast vapor
yeah need to be pretty good players to forgive gear
tardy hare
get gear and have lock do more damage and fears on their goes
manic arrow
What gear is necessary, 470+ is enough?
lime light
no its not
ilvl is one thing
second thing is bis stats
bis corruption
bis azerites
bis trinkets
bis essences
highest possible cloak lvl
like i have fresh arms warrior with 470 ilvl, that does almost no damg, cuz i have -52 corruption
manic arrow
Well, ma dude has r3 essences, x4 12% corruptions and decent azerites
So I can't really get if it's gear problem or our hands
Not sure if there is such a huge difference between 466 and 470
tardy hare
i mean for fire mage its important to get Gpy's off
lime light
versa amps
vast vapor
yeah its either versa amps or very high haste with like racing pulses to get giga casts off
tardy hare
but me and my homie around 1.8-1.9 with 450 as MLhpriest
just need to feear and poly a ton
and then get some Gpy's off and win off of that
ideal would be to get more gear anyway
¯_(ツ)_/¯
and more corruptions
amber dawn
@manic arrow it also could be the case that your mage is not mitigating damage
or is the incorrect corruptions
a well-timed temporal shield can save you a lot of mana
also having claw and fangs can help a ton
innervate usage
and proper DPS
like if your warlock isn't pumping and forcing them on the backfoot and they're allowed to tunnel damage into the mage
that's gonna oom u
your best bet is to post your gameplay
and we can analyze it for you
manic arrow
I'm running totem/wrathion stuff
Oh, would be nice
Guess I'll record some
I've realized also that I'm not using roots at all
And still can't adapt to this x3 lifebloom stuff
Keeping up one usually :C
manic arrow
Do you mean focused growth, yeah?
amber dawn
yes
tropic schooner
as a druid you also gotta be agressively forcing drinks
druids are prolly least mana efficient healers atm but have easiest time drinking
ebon salmon
what about corruptions for feral? dunno if i should do vers for survivability or gushing for dam
mainly fopr 2s
stray sigil
im starting to like full vers again
i know eu ferals do max vers too for the most part
lime light
there are 3 viable builds
full vers
full gush
mix gush vers
everything with maut must have
heady vessel
what azerite traits do you actually go for as boomie for arenas?
stray sigil
if u plan on double dps full vers def the play imo @ebon salmon
heady vessel
guess i found out, battlefield focus, but i couldn't see it on the weekly cap azerite, but it's cuz it's not on chest i guess
clear pulsar
Only helm and shoulder ye
heady vessel
ah
ebon salmon
thanks for the input :)
naive igloo
does a mage get photosynthesis benefit if they spellsteal lifebloom?
word word, solid theory
analog lantern
New to resto healing in arena. Any good weak aura or add on to track your HOTs over your partners nameplate or on their sArena frame
Or at least make it large and apparent for a newbie
clear pulsar
Yeah it does
And it should let you whitelist spells for friendly while blacklist for enemies
blissful merlin
How do you resto's survive rogues in 2v2? It feels like trying to fight one of those boa constrictor snakes where you can't do anything and you are just postponing the inevitable... You can make get away once or twice, but with steps they get back on you quick
Its especially bad if they are with a shaman or priest... I can live for a little bit if my dps peels the healer, but its really rough if they can get line on me and gas pedal purge
fickle junco
more verse? have your dps peel for you.
arctic cove
There's been some time for the gushing and versa nerfs to be played with, there a preferred feral build or are we combining them? Thinkin bout trying to really get into pvp with what's left of the xpac
amber dawn
you should be playing entangling bark
and thorns
helps a lot vs. rogues
MS + dampening is no bueno
u want to kite him/deter him from attacking u
fickle junco
i found the trick to killing fire mages. hit them with malice trinket just before their cauterize triggers. probably old info that everyone already knew
mint meadow
Do you guys stay on resto in your BGs and War Mode quests?
sinful lance
how to get corrupted gladiator's medalion? random drop from bg/arenas and upgrade via trophy?
or weekly chest?
cuz its not @ conquest rewards
lime light
Random drop from ARENA / weekly / brawl quest
manic arrow
Is it possible to drink in stealth nowadays?
manic arrow
So?
vast vapor
yes you go first cat form then drink then prowl
manic arrow
Usually I end up with breaking my drink, let me try
clear pulsar
Yeah gotta be in cat form first
That's all
/use rockskip mineral water
/use !prowl```Yeah, thanks
Works well when I start with cat
Otherwise it says “you must be standing”
How do you track keeping x3 lifeblooms?
clear pulsar
Can make a weakaura for it
amber dawn
i just look at the blizzard ui frames
once you train yourself to look for the icon
it pops out
vast vapor
would haste versa be like the maxdps stats for gushing
clear pulsar
Well
That's cuz there is no reason for any lock or dh or rogue to reroll
Since 8.1
In december 2018
lime light
true
vast vapor
healers tend to have multiple choices nowadays
clear pulsar
Yeah like, a lot of healer players end up having at least 2 or 3 toons
And people are always more willing to help out healer friends cuz obviously
Healers
lime light
i jsut died to the arena thingy
the zap
LOL
i was just close to the arena border
lime light
friendly reminder "feral isnt worse than lock"
sly kernel
Hi guys.. im googeling and I cannot find any guide for RBG as Resto Druid? Anyone could help me with the talents (pve/pvp) and the stats please?
I only can find arena guides
manic arrow
Guys, should I play agressive as rdrood in MLD? Or 40 meters healing?
dark condor
yep....im never gonna get decent 475 pieces to stack gushings on >.<
livid wasp
so feral stacks gushings?
or versa
whats the final verdict
gonna start playing arenas again
dark condor
mix of both is what i've been seeing
livid wasp
livid wasp
ok
obtuse ice
Ok
vast vapor
maut is like always ?
tranquil silo
haste/versa or mastery/versa for resto druid? I feel like i wasted all of my versatile on mastery/versa... i sit at 15% haste and gameplay wise it feels atrocious
rigid linden
ok team dont let me down
do i 475 warlords
this
or this
Im thinking ring
because its heaviest vers in game
@clear pulsar u know what week it is
100% crit in pvp weeeeeek 😄
clear pulsar
rigid linden
@clear pulsar 65% crit without JF up in pvp
thats what i got atm
that much in arena
with TF
FUCK
stray sigil
so close yet so far
stray sigil
na u need to get it legit bote is cheating
vast vapor
isnt it soon mastery week too pog
rigid linden
riksu are u the mastery fanatic
tiny oar
Me too fuji me too 
tiny oar
Formys childhood dreams are crushed 😟
rigid linden
😦
clear pulsar
@rigid linden go up to 75% with severes and 3x jf
Then rest in strikethrough
Win in big bote go
rigid linden
feelsbadman 😦
clear pulsar
Big 200k drest
rigid linden
😦
rigid linden
well
if i used like
4x severes
i could hit 90% crit
with TF
MAN I JUST DONT HAVE SHIT TO SPEND ON ECHOS TBH
STILL HAVE
TWO GUSHINGS AND A VERSATILE
tiny oar
I spent all my echoes on cloak upgrades cuz fuck dailies and raiding
clear pulsar
Yeah I dont have decent 475 items
To put gushing on
Big sad
Wtf I tune into bean stream after like a year
And he's playing retail
But he's playing destro???????????????
The ratfuck
clear pulsar
2600
stray sigil
ya i mean mmr wise
clear pulsar
He's a blizzcon finalist. 2600 is washed in comparison.
stray sigil
he was playing some big boys
clear pulsar
Ok
I mean whatever it is
Hard to see it being worse than losing at 1800 on his lock
stray sigil
not all about cr bro
he was not having fun playing feral
he might have fun playing lock even if its at like 1800
clear pulsar
Right
I don't get it personally
But whatever
I'm all for playing what you find fun regardless of where it would put you in ladder or anything like that. I guess I just don't understand what makes current feral feel so much worse than previous iterations
Cuz idk what the previous iterations were like.
tiny oar
Druid gang 4 life
clear pulsar
My life is healing nub keys now
rigid linden
ouch..
rigid linden
👀
clear pulsar
rigid linden
the police onto us
clear pulsar
I hear you big io
rigid linden
nah we dont do keys anymore
i got like 3.6k and every1 just split
we got nzoth to 30% last week and secret phase boss to 15%
clear pulsar
Better than arena
rigid linden
i think 100% a kill this week
come outa secret phase do 1-2 anguish and push
hahah hell naw
im fully fkn geared
i need 0 loot from nzoth
ROFL
youre honestly right?
hows their alt run going
if they still do em
yeah im with restricteds alt group atm
timbo just yelling at us
smh
fickle junco
1v2'd a rogue lock. lock thought it was a bright idea to burn some hp to get into a better position but then i hit them with malice and double Concentrated flame. 
amber dawn
stray sigil
jesus fuck thats far
fickle junco
just more time to farm echos
vast vapor
that the crit is poo
@rigid linden yup lul, sad truth
didn't get maut wep once again yesterday, hopefully today... otherwise its one more week with FULL versa
tiny oar
Big F
lime light
Friendly reminders:
-Feral is as op as destro
-U can Die in robo arena to blizzards mechanic
tiny oar
Dying to robodome shock KEKW
tiny oar
So cooked
Started farming the seed toy so I can be big dam fire cat in arena
Maybe if I'm lucky I'll get it by slands lol
cyan hare
Does it just drop on heroic flands?
tiny oar
The lightning dot from hitting the edge of the wall
Tian died to it yesterday or something lol
@cyan hare it drops off hc and normal
tiny oar
Sounds like a serious case of GET GUD TM
vast vapor
imo it sounds like MC op
wise valley
@vast vapor what is wrong with full versa
@tiny oar what seed toy
Iant it the 4 seeds that spawn by near the bridgr
tiny oar
small storm
ya sadly it’s less than 6% i’ve been farming it since legion so
tiny oar
well i got the mount which is sumthing i guess lol
blissful jackal
Which one
tiny oar
flametalon
lime light
mount is way lower
vast vapor
is it once per week chance for character or do you have to do both hc and normal
forest kite
@rigid linden how is your crit build? 😛
tiny oar
thx tianton makes me feel way better 💔
@vast vapor not sure ive been doing both just to be safe lol
rigid linden
ya
very squishy
and its like
the vers u gain from full vers
makes up for less crits
i mean with BOTE
its pretty fun
but like
if u want max dam
jsut go gushing
😦
rigid linden
same man same
vast vapor
imagine having like R1 racing pulse(20corr), R1 tentacle(10corr), R1 honed mind(15corr), gushing(15), R1 surging vitality(15), R1 infinite star(20corr), R1 void ritual(15corr), and maut weapon
I wonder if the mechagon wrists at 475 would actually be good in arena
vast vapor
it says 57k over 8secs
vast vapor
yeah its almost 200 secondary loss + amps
tranquil silo
What are the odds to get the same piece on your pvp chest 3 times in a row?
vast vapor
wonder if stats matter more than ilvl for gushing pieces in pvp
like the 485 boots are big-crit mastery, I bet 475 versa piece is better?
lime light
485 gush is like 13.7k
vast vapor
full versa week without maut weapon once again it seems
fringe idol
Does the ratings for 2’s 3’s and rbg stack or is it just your highest that’s your cr
vast vapor
cr means the current rating of the bracket of your choice
fringe idol
So they are independent?
vast vapor
yes
winged frost
yo can someone answer what it is that you get when you turn in the 40 quartermaster notes to the pvp dude?
some trophy? does it have a use?
vast vapor
its trophy and related to your current rating
just the same what you can get from the weekly pvp box to upgrade items to set ilvl
winged frost
so you like put it in your bank and never touch it again?
OH
I see
so if you're 1800, you can set an item to 475 for instance?
winged frost
well thats ass
vast vapor
blood mist vs untamed ferocity for pvp hmmm
pallid coral
vast vapor
got that today too, wish I had some use for it
odd kernel
https://clips.twitch.tv/ImpartialCrackyBubbleteaDoggo
this is hallarious
clear pulsar
Budget pika
Also pika doesn't go around pvp discords linking his clips of beating 1500 people
tiny oar
That's a big yikes lol
jade elbow
Pika does 360 screenshots every other game... how is that not flaming lol
clear pulsar
?
You might feel insulted
Cuz you're getting shrekt
But the streamer isn't flaming you for losing a 1v2
tiny oar
Pulling out a selfie camera before they die is a little showy 4 sure
stray sigil
thats more bm
than flame lol
flark will literally sit there and talk about how shit this guy is
fickle junco
takes selfie camera pics before dealing the killing blow because "theres nothing they can do"
nah, thats perfectly fine
stray sigil
u cant be srs
theres a difference with casual bm
and actual flame
glyph used to it
he is a destro player now afterall 
small storm
smh yall getting mad at entertainment
stray sigil
na flark's a pos is all
small storm
i bet u like queuing into him with getrow 
stray sigil
🙂
clear pulsar
I'm convinced getrow is just a public selfplay
stray sigil
crazy cuz even on his alt
all he qs is tank comps
lmfao
and he got an ego size of the moon
tiny oar
So disgust
tardy hare
Taking out selfie cam before u kill
Is literally just a big flex
Taking out selfie cam and win is so big
Just means you goT OWNED
smoky violet
right now i'm at 3 IJ 2 MI. Just gambled a gorak's which is 15 ilvl higher than my current shoulder, but i'd be losing either an IJ or a MI and replacing it with wfr probably (because blood mist random cat form has already screwed me before so fuck that). You guys think that's worth it for the ilvl or not really?
stray sigil
who is u
in this raid
motherfucekr
ur one of the locks
even worse
a dh
yes pls daddy
not even top 10 dps
OMEGALUL
@vestal citrus
tiny oar
Fuji getting mythic kills?? 
stray sigil
yes im mythic raider for sure
its
so fucking doomed
fukin
gwix
im poor now
ima see if i can get
some
help from some dude
tiny oar
🤢
tiny oar
Yikes dawg
lime light
Lol
stray sigil
game sucks
dark dagger
how does guardian feel in pvp?
worldly glade
i looked up pika def constantly talks shit playing 1400 2s
legit worst player ive ever played against
lime light
?
tardy hare
It is funny seeing shitties play the game tho
wise valley
@worldly glade sorry what
worldly glade
ssn 3
legit trash talking half the games i watch himed him
and ive never went back to his awful stream
tiny oar
Wait wtf really
lime light
ye
mild jackal
I rarely pvp, but a guy in my guild asked if me if I wanted to do some 2s. I usually play 1600-1750 games cause I PUG with random people that don't even have essences.
He was 2400 rating so we immediately started playing 2200 MMR games. Every 5 seconds was me getting CC'ed zzzz
we won all of our games before he had to leave, but it's crazy how different arena games are at different levels.
jolly ingot
hey guys need advice what would be the pvp stats to go ?
mild jackal
Versatility maybe?
clear pulsar
@mild jackal it's more so that people at challenger don't really know how to use their toolkits, let alone how to coordinate crowd control and burst with their partners
But yeah it does look very different
It's the same as pve tho, you can easily see people doing weekly no leaver 15s and dying to simple pulls cuz they don't know how to deal with certain mobs or boss mechanics, then watching someone doing the same key at a 26, pulling 3 packs together that all wiped the 15-weekly-no-leaver group separately, and no one dying cuz they have a plan and understand what they need to be doing
smoky violet
Can confirm
I suck at coordinating CC and burst
And look at people dying to stuff like maut's annihilation in pugs and just go 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
obtuse ice
L
wise valley
Thanks bud
rigid linden
If I've played against pika then Ur lying or one of his 1400 2s victim's
Hence ur dogshit
Pika is a whole expac ahead of every rogue and ive versed him in tournaments and high ladder
It doesn't get better than that lil fk
stray sigil
like i get that in the past
he was semi toxic
but was more an ego thing
but now theres def no way u can call pika toxic or anything
big daddy @rigid linden comin in hot to save the youngsters
rigid linden
If Ur being shit talked and Ur 1400 in 2s maybe there's truth to the shit talk
Hence u should take it to improve and ascend
stray sigil
never seen pika shit talk a low cr player
daring sand
Never seen Pika be toxic either. The guy is full of shit who wrote that. See? Now That was toxic.
wise valley
I watched him pre bfa even during his 2s spams and he wouldnt specifically shit talk a 1400 player
He would shit talk their 1400cgqmeplay in real time and also speak inhumanely fast while breaking down what he did to eviscerate them
plucky basin
was TD proc rate nerfed in pvp? 3 games straight of 5mins+ length and not a single TD proc ;/
wise valley
Haha
Fell thru vision of org floor into halls of stone
Haha
Cusni wanna farm more fucking coalescs
tiny oar
Lol get wrecked
tropic schooner
halls of stone below og confirmed
edgy oxide
do it
tiny oar
Ur a monster formy
teal hemlock
Ive just started playing with a SV hunters in some 2s on my druid, and heard from some i should play feral/crucible to have pressure during the CC chains with claw/maledict
is this the play or should i just go full defense
i went full def today with varying results
tiny oar
You should be helping with max dam yea
You could play full defense but you'll get more pressure just conc flaming on cd and going in cat keeping up dots
teal hemlock
yeah i felt in a lot of games we just didnt have enough pressure when we lost, eg any MW/DH team was an insta lose
but i was playing full vers/guardian affinity,CS major
tiny oar
Yea I'd keep cns major vs rogues but other than that max dam, clone off trap and clone dps off that n swap heals until traps off cd, rinse rpt
teal hemlock
hmm il give that a try next time instead of just being a useless meat shield 😄
tiny oar
Huge dam confirmed
wise valley
@rigid linden male draenei been low key huge flex for plate/mail mogs
lime light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BowRxYmJhs i will leave it here
wise valley
@vast vapor press x to doubt
tropic schooner
that song
clear pulsar
Yeah iron jaws is mad upsetting
errant verge
Why upsetting? I thought it was a good trait
clear pulsar
It's pmuch the only impactful feral trait
But it's a % flat proc chance
So it's way more inconsistent
Than other procs which are on a ppm rate
You can proc it back to back to back or you can take 10 bites to proc once
It says a lot about the other feral traits
bitter fox
Guys what are the 2 best stats for Balance druid? Currently have high mastery and crit.
clear pulsar
Vers and haste
bitter fox
small starsurges though right? Is it more leant towards rot?
clear pulsar
Yeah kinda damp, do big overall dam with dots
clear pulsar
Yeah
bitter fox
perfect, thank you for quick response. very hard balancing it all rn
clear pulsar
Streaking stars is nerfed more than the other traits
manic arrow
Guys, I'm running 475 claw/humming as rdrood. Should I switch 'em for something else for 2s/3s if I'm focusing on vers?
clear pulsar
Yeah the voodoo totem is really strong
lime light
@clear pulsar dont do drugs homie
glossy stream
@manic arrow Are you focusing on raiding or M+?
glossy stream
@manic arrow Then tha atal one is sick. Great pocket healing. Between humming and claw, i'd say try then but stick with atal one as well 🙂
manic arrow
Thanks, I have it 460, but have checked top10 rdroods above 2.2 and didn't see any using it ;P
glossy stream
Haha it's a matter of comfort i guess.
amber dawn
atal one is awesome
allows you to heal while locked out
which is extremely valuable
and it heals for like 100k
spiral bough
guys, do you know of an addon that lets you have 2 different action bar setups?
cause my pvp bars look quite different than the pve ones
small storm
for the ferals that use some masterful, is this ring ok? https://i.imgur.com/Kd9E1mo.png
just opened my box and looks p good
crit stinks tho
amber dawn
@spiral bough binder
spiral bough
does it work on 8.3?
it doesnt seem to work
ii dont need different keybinds, i need differnt spells on the same keybinds
visual obsidian
@small storm mastery is good but I'm pretty sure a % verse would be better
That's a great ring thi
mild jackal
pvp is too hard. Always feel like I'm hating life losing games cause it's a team environment
lol
livid wasp
480 engi head worth going for?
uncut compass
Vs rogues or other ferals, sure.
Or maybe vs people if you know they’ll run gushing.
The anti bleed is underutilized imo.
spiral bough
i have a question, i've recently started pvp-ing and i am not quite sure what i am doing wrong. I pugged a 2v2 arena with a rogue and while i was almost dead being chased by an unholy dk he told me "stop tanky damage wtf man" and left the group
what is he referring to?
lime light
It removes gush ye
cobalt narwhal
why does it remove gushing if gushing is not a bleed...dafuck
clear pulsar
It's a bleed that does shadow damage
It's not dispelable even tho it's in theory magic
tidal meadow
LFr for guy who can coaching me to play resto druid pvp
compact tide
@spiral bough he means for u to los or run when they pop cds, for instance not losing warlocks infernals is pretty bad u gonna die 4 sure. los= line of sight
vs unhooly dk in particular is good to root them then they will rope u in and u sprint
lime light
Its a shadow dmg bleed Pepega
compact tide
if ur resto or feral u can wildcharge out intead of sprit then they will probably range stun u
lime light
Just like shadowy thrash
compact tide
and u can trinket that
thorns is always goood
especialy if they wasted their shield
@spiral bough elviui dowloaded from the internet lets u have 2 different action bar setups but not 2 different keybinds
for 2 diferent keybinds u can make a scrip u run to change everything
spiral bough
Thanks for the answer but i found a cute addon that does exactly that, it's named btwloadouts
void dome
Quick one for resto druids in 3’s; with a lock/mage: what would you use for talents/essences? And feral affinity since not the focus target?
mild jackal
Does gladius addon track DR on stuns by default? I don't see it on mine
void dome
Does on the left of the frame yeah
mild jackal
ah ok thanks
I think my UI & awareness in general sucks for PVP
I ran out of darkness playing with a DH guildmate who's 2.4K cause I didn't even realize he dropped it (We weren't playing on voice comms)
A lot of times playing resto I'm leaving myself open to getting CC'd to death playing 2.2K+ MMR games
rigid linden
I am now elite make draenei holy pally
tiny oar
half grove
Hey guys, I'm new to pvp and am wanting to go feral... what is normally suggested, I've done quite a bit of research but its all been kinda contradictory
small storm
It’s quite standard tbh
Orange is standard and green is possible changes but not often
PvP talents bite leader of the pack and either thorns or clone, if u run both I’d swap off bite
half grove
May i ask why not Balance Affinity
edgy mountain
can I get talents for balance for PVP please
edgy mountain
So switch to resto?
edgy mountain
ahh thanks
edgy mountain
awesome thanks
subtle pine
Hey, this might be a dumb question but how often do the 1500 honor quests from epic BGs reset? Trying to power through to honor 80 for my last artifact tint.
subtle pine
Weekly seems like a maybe? I feel like it's more than per-season but I've always gone in fits and starts with PVP that make it hard to gauge positively.
forest kite
whats the stat priority for balance druid in pvp?
forest kite
The pin looks incredibly helpful too, very detailed lots of resources if you haven't checked it.
olive glade
assuming both have socket and same corruption (12% vers) which would be better for feral druid for pvp?
so wish i got those gloves on my rogue instead T_T
lime light
gloves are better if u can socket versa 3 em
but at this point mythic digusting pve raiding gloves are better
lime light
btw
i swear maut weapon with disc and full versa
is the biggest pumper in the game
if u have uptime on a target
vast vapor
next reset full gushings lets go
so tempted to buy mastery amps for master/haste gear
lime light
why would u go gush
i mean gush is broken, for a lot of classes, cuz u do nothing and it deals dmg
but gush is in the peak
u cant play more
and versa is the future for sure
u can still get 2 more amps, and more sockets
so it become stronger
@tiny oar ye same, iam playing some arms rn, but i started playing it
when vers 3 was in the vendor
so obv i coulnt buy any
i have sick gear
but 0 corruption
legit useless
stuck in deff stance, or ded to any cleave dmg
have to parry opener mostly vs rmx
tiny oar
So sick haha fuck blizz I just wanna queue with bis gear
tiny oar
Anyone know if theres a website u can just create a full item list with sockets and corruption on it and see ur stat %s?
lime light
prolly the raid bots or w/e its called
but u might have put like lower versatile
like if u wanna play vers 3
put the versa 2 there
tiny oar
I swear theres an rdruid build with like 20% mastery 35%+ vers but every rdruid I see is either running full mastery or full vers no mix
Yea I'll try it out thx
tiny oar
Lol yea I just die instantly to one kidney with gush tic on my alt rdruid with no vers its insane
lime light
ye
rdru is only viable for 2s, or in 3s with a destro cleave as nelf
and u need like 2 full bags
of water
and drink every 20 sec
tiny oar
Every game yea lol
vast vapor
I see what u mean @lime light now, 2h users are pretty scuffed with one less corr slot
I've already been full versa without maut wep tho, gotta test that gushboi
the ultimate setup will have like one gushing and rest versa prolly with perfect high versa pieces
+maut
lime light
not worth
if u wanna play gush
play 4
at least
otherise dont bother
why would u
vast vapor
why wouldnt u play the one
lime light
one gush even on rly big item will deal max 3k tick
or even less
when it proc
its super piss dmg
that will be outhealed by anything
whaazz was testing gush on arms also
on 485 ring
vast vapor
lol its not really supposed to be outhealable dot with only one gushing but it scales with all the versa
vast vapor
its just the little bit of extra on top of all that versa
vast vapor
7*20+35-135 is 40 so its gotta be either 9% amp or gush for the last piece
at maxed cloak I think
lime light
yup
obtuse ice
1+1 is 2
tiny oar
@clear pulsar can u confirm this math pls
clear pulsar
The math checks out brother
livid wasp
is jungle supposed to struggle against DH/arms
tardy hare
Jungle is supposed to struggle against me
lime light
left depot
small storm
Lmao
vast vapor
great game
forest kite
Rextroy the legend
queen copper
Lmao insane
analog lantern
For feral double DPS with survival is it worth getting a couple GW pieces? Or should I just go all versa since will be targeted the most
Our haste is so low since we stack vers/mastery idk if it will proc enough
formal rose
any guides for feral at x2?
obtuse ice
X2?
fickle junco
sees video so which class should i equip for my corruption? ;D
forest kite
so do I buy 6 gushings for feral
heavy cairn
@forest kite you can do that or mix with some vers or go full vers
lime light
No
forest kite
just feels bad seeing the wimpy 8% in arena
forest kite
gonna go 4 + 2 vers amp i already have and staff and see how it feels
wise valley
All or nothing
forest kite
ive seen some mixed
tiny oar
My boy fox does the big dam
south nacelle
hi guys hope its safe to ask here without getting spat on.. any tips for guardian pvp? we are 1600ish UHDK shaman Guardian
im not sure on the best azerite
clear pulsar
Uhm look up supatease, I think he has a video guide on guardian, otherwise he should have vods of him playing guardian dk rsham for the whole season. Or tag Pumps in here too. @south nacelle
small storm
i did a key with supa and getrow yesterday, ur fav people
clear pulsar
Idk
I don't hate them as people
I have a hard time with getrow the selfplay
But supatease is whatever, I just dislike the shit he says in the awc cast
south nacelle
thanks matey
small storm
the selfplay? lol
real skiff
Is gushing wounds still good for pvp as feral?
heavy cairn
@real skiff yeah it’s good
south nacelle
Wild Fleshrending in pvp for bear
somber vale
Hello, what corruption should I get from mother for RBGs? Gushing wounds or infinite stars ?
Should I still stack vers for pvp ? Thank you
stray sigil
would help if u said what spec u play
somber vale
I’m sorry I’m a boomie , thank you
split kite
hey who does balance " boomkin " team up with
a warlock or mage or something?
u cyclone and sheep and or fear the healer over and over then nuke down 1 dps?
muted plinth
@left depot i played against Rextroy in 3v3 low rating, few days ago, he stun me, insta proc tentacle and I'm dead before i understand what appened
left depot
B A L A N C E D
small storm
boomy ele is good
forest kite
Do you guys think it would be better to run heroic Azerite with guardian traits for flag carrying in RBGs or having more health in Mythic feral azerite?
heavy cairn
Boomkin ele is the most I’ve seen. Usually boomkin goes well with affliction lock because of the rot pressure but affliction doesn’t exist right now really. I’ve also seen boomkin/ww but rare. I’d say boomkin ele is the best choice @split kite
azure phoenix
I did read the pinned guides for Resto Druid but I still have some questions. Is vers amp stacking not the best for arena? or is a higher throughput setup with haste% and masterful corruptions overall stronger?
arctic cove
So I just scanned through all the top pvp ferals, and all I see are 12% vers amps, maybe one surging vitality - take it basically no on going ham for GW week?
dawn lion
I see most running a mix of Gushing and Versa amps.
stray sigil
u either go 4 gush 2 amps or u go full vers as feral
im leaning towards full vers again aswell
tiny oar
inspired by the formrage
tiny oar
big dam judge
lime light
lol
merry sandal
hey guys, can you tell me what are the best azzerites and corruptions for feral pvp? a newby asking 😛
clear pulsar
For traits, the best 2 generally are Iron Jaws and Masterful Instincts. But it's not possible to have 3 of both at once. So generally you go 3x of one, 2x of the other, and 1x of whatever is left on the chest piece you have. Usually it'll be a generic stat proc, or Jungle Fury, or Gushing Lacerations.
For corruptions, you want the staff from Maut for sure, then imo versatile is the play. Gushing wound is good too, and some people go all in or some mix of vers% and gushing.
merry sandal
thanks mah man
vast vapor
anyone actually tried gushing on boomkin?
spiral bough
is there a way to setup omnibar to have one bar for each arena player?
livid wasp
Ferocious Bite deals 20% increased damage and increases the duration of Rip on your target by 41 sec per combo point spent.