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stray sigil
lime light
Feels like the nerfed gush might be better than mastery
rigid linden
doing mythic raid toniht
might get a spare maut wep
then i can test 4x vers 3x gush
lime light
Dont think so dropping maut is a llay
slate nimbus
hope i can get raden weapon tonight and equip my 70% versa build KEKW
slate nimbus
like u r planning literally to drop maut for another maut (3x gushings) that are more expensive
clear pulsar
Crit tho
rigid linden
didnt someone say earlier they only did 79k crit bites
clear pulsar
Blood major
I did
160k
Bite crit with blood major today
160k into frenzy into 160k
TREMENDEOUS stuff
slate nimbus
tony did only 76.9k with 200% mastery on tr realm with bt crit
rigid linden
^
stray sigil
ya no
slate nimbus
on 50% vers
stray sigil
lol
slate nimbus
ah kk, non crit then
stray sigil
ya thats more like ir
rigid linden
oh
slate nimbus
thought it was
rigid linden
non crit is fine then
slate nimbus
but anyway 73k bite with wasting ur SI MingLee
lime light
But IT was bt
slate nimbus
would be 90k with crit
stray sigil
nobodys gonna have 50 vers anmore anyways
lime light
200% mastery bt bite
slate nimbus
^kekw
stray sigil
so kinda pointless
slate nimbus
rn i can wear 69% base with 45 corrupt
slate nimbus
3x omw not hotd
slate nimbus
it is too but still a bit more than hotd
it will be 67 in pvp
so why i won't have around 50 after nerf
stray sigil
ita literally half
1 omw is 1% vers isnt it
so 3 would be around 1.5-2 in lvl
pvp
- depending on the amount of amps u have
u will lose a lot
slate nimbus
still, if u wear rn i.e 3x versatile, u only need to get another r4 to get back to numbers before nerf
lime light
Mehx is playing 75% with procs
slate nimbus
not big deal
lime light
Ppl that do t have to Play specific corruption on wrapon
Like us
Can go easly to 50%
Once there is rank 2
In vendor
50% after nerf
stray sigil
idk bout easily
when all u do is find the omw
or the hotd
still not looking super good
losing 3 ij
for 3 omw
def troll
idk why eu does it
slate nimbus
cuz ij is purely troll trait, just gap between traits in general is too small so u can wear anything w/o loosing much damgur
stray sigil
yikes
slate nimbus
pressing utillity buttons for dmg gain was enough to just stop on bt mechanic
stray sigil
us rather have 3 omw which nets 1.5 dmg increase
over 3 ij
no matter which way i look at ut
looks like hard poop
lime light
I was talking about other classes too, that they can go to 50% easly after nerf
slate nimbus
Time to roll on eu
stray sigil
dude said 50% dmg reduc
slate nimbus
every game in 2.6-2.7 is ret or warrior with 60% base versa
doing 40k dps in 1 target
for 6 minutes
slate nimbus
wtb weakaura to calculate in live time somewhere about amount of versa based on dmg they're taking
slate nimbus
who sometimes doesnt work
for some reason
but big jungle tacs: sit in stealth, copy enames, armory it to choose target to kill Keepo
slate nimbus
afterall corruption vendor seems like a mistake
with every1 in same gear they need to start to balance their shit expansion
but they wont
rustic heron
Maybe they should have put every corruption on the vendor from day one, not this rotation shit
And since everyone could run every setup they want, ie full versa, start tweaking specs instead of corruption interactions...
fickle junco
hmm i wonder if the enemy heals would freak out if a Feral druid went is 100% active crit 200% active mastery incarn rake everyone for over 300k bleed damage
lime light
No, its easy to outheal rot dmg in bfa
Prev soo good on spriest
Disgusting shadowplay abuser, but he is good
wanton cairn
So what should ferals be doing now after the nerf? Still stacking Versa?
tiny oar
disgusting bear player
forest kite
what would be the best pvp race for feral? (alliance)
pallid coral
night elf
stray sigil
@tiny oar boomsurge the homie bro...
tiny oar
guardian player FILTH
uncut compass
I haven’t heard about anyone playing bear RN.
kindred sedge
why cant ushapeshift off the leg sweep slow 😛
lime light
Cuz its bugged
dreamy aspen
can Solarbeam be reflected?
cause this boomkin either solarbeamed my while reflect was up or he targeted my pet 
kindred sedge
ye but its been bugged for a long time
heavy cairn
should i buy mastery amps for resto druid?
since vers is nerfed or what are people playing?
forest kite
@heavy cairn it will depend on what you play really if you are playing something like MLD or a comp where you genrally are not a traget get mastery amps.
If you are playing a comp where you are very likely to be a target play versi.
If just for 2s id say versi is prob still safer but again can depend on what you play
plain silo
Hello, is versi the play for feral in 3s? Was thinking of going full tendies with 22% vers
clear pulsar
@dreamy aspen no you dingus, he was saying yes to the conversation he was already in
Tendies are garbage
DOn't go full tendiesl ol
wanton cairn
Tigers Fury's - bleed or bites?
plain silo
@clear pulsar is full versa still the play?
clear pulsar
Bro haha I like how I talk so much people kinda think they should take me seriously
Like fuji said, the impact of these small stat differences in the actual results of your games will be pretty minor
I think having at least a set full of vers gear/corruption for when you face rogue comps is important
But
plain silo
what rating are you?
clear pulsar
I'm 2.2 rn
plain silo
oh
clear pulsar
Fuji and 3akatz and formy are the ones that
Actually know how to play
I just like fucking around on spreadsheets
Tendies trash tho
For sure
plain silo
ya ill just stack vers
mental oxide
hello
mental oxide
hello folks i was wondering after the vers nerf in pvp is it worth it for boomies to stack vers?
clear pulsar
I like ele
tropic schooner
@mental oxide stacking vers for sure now using vers corruptions is a bigger question
prolly still tho
maybe more surgings
wary isle
anyone has some good info on vitality conduit in , don't have the essence but I'm being encouraged to get it because "its important" and "you're gonna notice a big difference in your healing"... but I've always argued that "yes.... its good, but it is not that much better" but I might be wrong? 🤔
clear pulsar
Not that much better than what
If you need extra healing it's better
If you need extra damage it's worse
lime light
if u mean minor not a big deal
but if u mean major
its huge
a bit worst on rdru, since its nature spell
if u get kicked as hpal or disc
u can still use it
lime light
u can heal it obv, its not a heal
clear pulsar
So it's better on rdru than on hpal
In theory
The only other essence that gives you a healing cd is spirit of preservation
Which is a decidedly worse major
In most cases
wary isle
for now I'm mostly using conflict as major, which is by no means a must its just "easy" and with vers stack I've been feeling like "why not", then I run spirit and seed as minors, so 3rd minor would probably be conduit if I bothered to get it, right now I started using lucid dream for some mana and vers proc 😅
still in rated battlegrounds, play slightly different in arena
split tendon
PVP Resto Druids - Thoughts on Surging Vitality as a replacement/supplement to the nerfed Versatile Amp on Tuesday? I'm thinking I'll try 3 Versatile/3 Surging on Tuesday. I'm fairly positive I want to keep stacking Vers one way or another, focused on 2v2, and more than anything I just want the ability to play aggressive without flopping.
slate nimbus
i just bought 4 chests for residium
and all of them were spymaster
???
sold em
bought the 5th
and guess what
am i playing hearthstone ?
solemn timber
Can i start pvp with 400ilvl? or its just a waste of tiem?
lime light
@slate nimbus it might be bugged i swaer
clear pulsar
@slate nimbus I feel you brother
lime light
i mean i had same issue with head
clear pulsar
I got the tradewinds shoulder 6 times in a row on main
lime light
i bought
clear pulsar
This season
lime light
4 or 5 heads
clear pulsar
Gold tasseled
clear pulsar
At least the tradewinds helm has MI + tradewinds
lime light
in a row
clear pulsar
BIIIIG dam
small storm
nice wcg
coral siren
Is this live
clear pulsar
Ye!?
coral siren
Link?
clear pulsar
heavy cairn
@forest kite ty was thinking the same
thick lava
Same
lime light
yup
wooden silo
Playing as Feral. I just got a lvl 460 polearm with 110 vers - I use a 445 An’zig from Maut, with 214 Vers and a gem slot. Should I change to the 460 weapon?
stray sigil
probably not
wooden silo
Idd - An’Zig is just amazing
pallid coral
wildcard styling on method
who'd have thought wildcard would save us from dampening
west laurel
i love watching wildcards ele shaman play
clear pulsar
Dude if Blizo picked up WW and got really good at it
WCG would be the most stacked team
stray sigil
idk if id go as far as to say wildcard is saving us from dampening
all their games today have been 30%+
oither than random gibs
@lime light so much for na being dampeners
willow granite
Is there any point of playing balance druid in 2v2?
It seems like resto druid is doing 10x more healing and same dmg.
clear pulsar
Bro
If you play boomie properly
You'll out damage anyone
Except DHs
In just raw dps
willow granite
Well i'm at 1,4k rat which isn't high, but always doing most damage im arena
My friend plays assa rogue but when enemy team is resto druid or heal monk we cant burst one person
clear pulsar
You both need to be very well coordinated and knowledgeable on arena to make rogue boomie work in 2s
Games will be a lot easier playing with a healer like hpala or rsham
Or if you go resto yeah
With the assa rogue
Huh sam boomie
Probably gonna get smashed
If this is their blind I don't see them winning this series
clear pulsar
I guess this is all on trill like
Trill could hard carry
But idk if he can vs chunli
wise valley
I kinda wanna level a monk or another tank/heal combo
willow granite
Well i really enjoy balance pvp, but maybe iam doing something wrong
Like when we Play against 2x dps we win like 85% of this arenas
What is the strategy when o fight against Monk healer or resto druid 2v2 arenas if i cant kill any od them?
clear pulsar
Honestly
The big 500iq
Vs these low rdrus
Is to get trinket with blind/sap
Then swap with kidney on top of solar beam
So they cant barkskin
100-0 everytime
nimble storm
Assa rogue destroys druids
olive glade
Lmao they just got out damped by gg
So happy c9 lost
He has to stick to pillar cus it’s lock/mage
Until they can all in
stray sigil
they dont have a reason to go out lol
if they go out they lose will still be a damp game
olive glade
Beats watching c9 games
stray sigil
i mean ik u meme
but c9 beat ggs everytime
now they just afk for 10mins
and thjey lose
tiny oar
Yea poor pika
Dude will get 50 subs instantly 2morrow just for turning on his stream
The move is actually certifiable
olive glade
Gg
heady vessel
where's the feral pov fuji??
stray sigil
shit pc
tiny oar
Get new PC n stream fuji >:(
tiny oar
Ye the boys got fucking shredded. So sad
heady vessel
they won, but that was semis and only sent c9 to lower bracket, where they 3-0'd spacestation, now they're going again in finals
thick lava
and then pika got 4-0'd
verbal spire
anyone know where i get get a 475 sim string for https://www.wowhead.com/item=172634/corrupted-gladiators-leather-hood
verbal spire
tyty
calm fox
are masterful corruptions worth grabbing for resto pvp?
why with a lock
im still getting my feet in pvp
ah ok
makes sense
heavy cairn
Do any druids use fangs? Or what’s your guy’s go to trinkets for 3s as rdruid? I’m assuming claw/x (whatever the matchup calls for)
tiny oar
No way lol
lime light
y
tiny oar
Holy shit
tiny oar
Say hello to our old friend rmpala again
lime light
ye destro nerf
tiny oar
Maybe ppl will actually die now
lime light
rmpala back right after they changing spite back
that it can stack
i wonder whats the interaction with locks mastery - versa
cuz it acts like "healing/absorb" in details
i wonder if its afffected by versa
rustic heron
They could test one change at a time tho, spite back and cns nerf might be too much for some classes that aren't locks
lavish kernel
Fmpala is gonna main team for me after Tuesday
clear pulsar
This change is absolutely huge
lavish kernel
Which
lavish kernel
True
clear pulsar
If you have right now
2200 base vers + 100 corruption worth of versatile
After patch you'll take 24% more damage in stuns than you do now
With CNS major
lavish kernel
That's nuts
tiny oar
Damn f2f with the quick math love it
lime light
we back to spite
lavish kernel
Gotta get good at going bear when kidney off CD
lime light
and killing ppl with "mans"
the only good thing about taht
locks will die
plenty of them
to spite
^
slate nimbus
idc, will just use nzoth mythic trinket instead of cns
lavish kernel
Literally every one dying in stuns
lavish kernel
I bought three masterful for my feral so I'm at 35% verse and 80% mast
tiny oar
HUGE bites
lavish kernel
Hoping (🙏) that after Tuesday big bites gonna be useful af
slate nimbus
link ur char pls @lavish kernel
lime light
prolly no maut
slate nimbus
i just have 60% vers and 45 mastery with 2bl vers trinket
so if he has same, 2bl vers trinket and maut
mine dmg will be kinda higher with dmg taken reduc same time
and i also have 22% haste that i could put in mastery by changing rings
but if he has it with 2bl agi trinkets, that's could be interesting
clear pulsar
So looks like you can get up to 2k versa comfortably with one vers trinket
On TR
So like drest + insignia
And strife should give 64 per stack?
So imagine you put 95 corruption into versatile
During stuns you're taking 53.6% of the original damage, after tuesday you'll take 69.4%
Almost 30% more damage
With CNS major
Or to look at it from the other angle, right now you have 46.4% DR during stuns, after patch you'll have 30.5%
slate nimbus
tbh u almost never use cns major as feral if u have nzoth trinket, so that nerf won't hurt much our survival
clear pulsar
It'll affect our damage
We'll do a lot more
During setups
Since most specs play cns major vs jungle
Maybe they won't after tuesday
slate nimbus
i mean, that's not nerf for us at least as spec
clear pulsar
Yes!?
clear pulsar
That is exactly what I'm saying
lime light
all i want is
my bt bleeds
doing big DAM
on warrior that is chillin in root
and crying
and iam watching him
dyin slowly
pls
and the roots are not breaking cuz i have artifact talent added
that it cant break
from bleeds
🙏🏿
lavish kernel
@slate nimbus beepi-tichondrius us
slate nimbus
i just wanna know if i could get setup that will let me drop my versa for more damage while using nzoth tank trinket to compensate my survival from lost versatillity
and only way is to play around with masterful corruption i think
to balance stats
but idk if there will be actual dmg increase so it's worth
clear pulsar
So let's say you have all items vers mastery
lime light
ofc
clear pulsar
A bit more vers but then you have mastery from cloak and necklace
You end up with like 2k of each base
And then you have 8 sockets or something
clear pulsar
This is with only 12% vers and 12% masterful
For me
No badge no insignia
But I'm using 2k
For the simplicity
With 2k each base
- 8 sockets and 100 corruption of the % amp
If you put everything into vers
echo anvil
so what corruption should I be looking at for feral in pvp?
clear pulsar
You'll have 253.84% damage buff
If you put everything into masterful, you'll have 288.47% damage buff
The difference in damage taken is 76.02% with versatiles and vers gems, to 85.22% with masterfuls and mastery gems.
So you'll do 13.6% more damage, and take 12% more damage @lime light @slate nimbus
lime light
if shifts
clear pulsar
By going mastery gems and corruption
With same base stats
Do more dam, take more dam
But vers also affects
Your trinkets and essences ofc
lime light
yup
clear pulsar
This is without accounting for masterful instincts
slate nimbus
with that math in theory dmg gain not that big in terms of pvp where u will do either 10M damgur or ~11M in some long game (i.e)
clear pulsar
If you're going for overall damage, vers should still be better
Or rather
Versatile corruption
slate nimbus
i just tested yday "cba full versa gear" with 59% base versa, 2bl trinket (was testing insignia+alchemy/badge), and i still had some 150k bites + 120k reaping combo crits on cloth targets with 2x MI up. Feels like nothing can be improved in gear optimization to get major improvement
lime light
agree
arctic cove
Yea I just mean they're making clear target of the extreme 'in stun' resistance that was being provided by high vers%
lime light
but i feel like surging can be good if u wanna big rng this shit
slate nimbus
Only choice i have is to play big go setup build with FF and drest/bike or just pve cleave bot to do 40-45k dps, but when choosing second option i completely loose sense of win condition, cuz i just try to maintain highest dps output for damp game
lime light
i like bt drest bije with ij
and guess who dont care about cns and versa nerf
mister destro
slate nimbus
they kinda do, cuz just to go full mastery build is BIGGEST troll
u might be 10iq warlock if u trade versa for mastery
cuz mastery dmg reduction is lowered by damp
and current meta just not letting u to do that (trade versa for mastery)
lime light
dakk said mastery is almost as good
but he didnt know
or was not sure
how mastery acts in damp
slate nimbus
ye he said he is not sure and needs confirmation, but if it's true, mastery is shit in CURRENT meta
clear pulsar
Does versa double dip with soul leech?
It doesnt
So vers and mastery affect soul leech the same way
You don't get a bigger shield with more versa
clear pulsar
You get more leech with mastery too!?
You deal more damage
Mastery is like DEFINITELY better for damage
lime light
dakk said he dont know
whats better yet
but versa insc it two ways?
first dmg done
and 2nd healing?
cuz soul leech is healing
/absorb
lime light
how u know that
pallid coral
stuff typically doesn't dip like that
soul leech is damage dealt gives you shield right
clear pulsar
Yeah
pallid coral
so it's affected by vers in that you do more damage
it would be silly if the vers also increased the shield because it would be double value
clear pulsar
So vers makes you do more damage for more shield, but mastery also makes you do more damage for more shield
Vers does not affect the shield you get as "healing"
It only buffs it once thru buffing your damage
Just like mastery
2000 mastery + 100 corruption of masterful / 200 vers
191.26% damage done / 76.37% damage taken / 73.41% in stun
2000 versa + 100 corruption of versatile / 200 mastery
145.03% damage done / 72.36% damage taken / 60.37% in stun
lime light
just tested
it does
u getting it faster
3042 vs 2973
when iam swapping
around 3%
just trinkets
clear pulsar
From the talent
lime light
and its not max
lime light
but its random
clear pulsar
Half random
lime light
dakk said mastery works on infernals aura dmg
but iam not so sure tho
but anyway
IMO
u are more tanky with versa
still after nerfs/changes
but mastery might be big dam
clear pulsar
So at worst
With literal shit rng where it only increases the damage by bare minimum every single time
nimble rapids
do i need to buy masterful 3's now?
clear pulsar
You're still doing 18% more damage
It's not opinion
IMO doesnt mean anything
The numbers are what they are
lime light
not its bullshit, mastery isnt working on infernals
lime light
so if mastery isnt working on infernal aura
u lose a lot of dmg
cuz infernals aura is big dam
small storm
is jungle alive with the cns change
mint vessel
Anyone have an idea what is going to be ideal resto druid corruption in 2s (playing with melee, not warlock) after these versa nerfs? Still versa or haste/mastery?
heavy cairn
@mint vessel for 2’s I think vers is reallly good because of the offensive ability as well as defensive 2’s is usually about doing damage as much as you can.
sly pewter
Hey all. I just got a wrist item iLvl 445 with Versa 3 and a socket. I already had an item at iLvl 460 with no corruption or socket. What should I keep for PvP? I lose iLvl but get the extra versa. I know theres some nerfs but I'm assuming its still good.
livid wasp
@Madmike will see tomorrow I guess, im more concerned how itll affect feral in 2s since we kill so much in stuns I feel like
stray sigil
@clear pulsar with cns major nerf means mastery meme build better right
less value out of vers ig?
stray sigil
bro im french ur not fooling me
but i was asking u
not stating a fact LOL
@clear pulsar
potent apex
What do you do as a resto Druid when you come against two havoc with mana burn?
I went oom so fast
The other Druid was 80% and I was just drained to death 😂
ripe maple
So with the changes to CnS again that is nerfed while stun and stuff what will be the best stats to aim for balance? And is it a good percentage to reach in order to survive in 2s? 😦
obtuse ice
Fuji isn't french
bold dirge
Hey, been doing a lot of pvp but having a bit of trouble with demonhunters, mostly their big jump and ranged attack where they hover and constantly shoot.
Anything to do to counter that as a feral?
heady vessel
LoS?
stray sigil
ya los is kidna weird with tahat shit ngl
jolly ingot
hey what would pvp stat weight for resto dudu ?
clear pulsar
Running this to bait people into panicking with my tendies @stray sigil 500iq or nah?
heavy cairn
@potent apex hi I believe you should try and play relentless and play the mass root talent it’ll help you avoid getting burned more and you will be able to escape more. Use your dash/leap/ursols rotate them and have your dps sit on one of the dh’s, idk what you were playing with but teammates can help, also nice pic!
@clear pulsar ngl fought a dk the other night this guy must have had tendies x9 they were hitting so hard lol
@potent apex also I’m not sure if thorns would be good to opt in to or not because it costs so much mana
clear pulsar
I think mass root is ok but bash still is the play. Instead of mass root you could play the ironbark root pvp talent.
Or maybe both who knows
Honestly vs a dh I'd consider even tiger dash
stray sigil
can u afford trolling 10 corruption
stray sigil
maybe its worth idk
tardy hare
Small tentie
Is annoying
As fuck
Holy shit
You see a tentacle
You don't know if it'll hit you for 3k
Or 50
Who knows
Have to go kill 😡
amber rivet
clear pulsar
LMAO
surreal heron
primal hearth
With the versatility nerf tomorrow will balance druid still stack vers?
potent apex
What stats are resto druids going?
I have like 36% haste, but only 7% vers, but have been using CnS main, but when I get swapped too, I just melt?
Even in bear with all hots and FR, sometimes I can’t kite that well, and if I shift out of bear I get stunned
🙃
How much more? Honestly I’m new to this 3s stuff, but when I get swapped to shit starts hitting the fan for me
clear pulsar
CnS major wont do much if you dont have much versa baseline
potent apex
I have like 13% mastery but I have all expedient. I play with an arms and havoc
clear pulsar
I think you can/should drop some haste
potent apex
I have only been pvpinf to get saddles for mounts, but it’s painful
clear pulsar
Haste is bis if you're being aggressive and getting clones off and what not, for healing, mastery is bis, and defensively versa is bis
potent apex
Alright, I’m gonna try more vers/mastery, I have been cloning a lot but I haven’t been feral-ing.
Alrighty! Thanks! I’ll try better 🤭
Im only 1.7k anyway lol
😂
clear pulsar
Keep in mind that FR is affected by ur mastery also
glossy summit
I'm still trying to figure out whether it's been my gear or if I just suck now. Was 2.4k+ in wotlk but haven't even hit 1600 now after coming back to the game a few months ago. Feels like I cant keep up with any sort of damage as resto
Heh. I'm still amazed that apparently everyone has 2 health bars full of self-help and so many defensive CDs it seems
clear pulsar
Relying on past achieves to gauge how good people are is always sketchy
But especially achieves from before mop
I feel like there are way too many people at 16-1800 with wrath achieves 600 higher
glossy summit
Womp womp, guess I'm just bad then
Doesn't help that I don't really know wtf other classes/comps can do
At least not to the same extent as back then
clear pulsar
Yeah honestly just put some time in to reading the wowhead guides of the other relevant specs, like just the spells/cooldowns part
stray sigil
SUB TO THE MIESTRO
eager pawn
@glossy summit my guy, as a pve dude that stopped at 1600, how you gon say you cant figure out if its u or your gear when you compare yourself to >10 years ago when you admit you dont know shit about other specs/comps literally three sentences later
clear pulsar
Says a lot about wrath
olive glade
What about cata?
glossy summit
Eh, I've barely been back 2 months, so had plenty of catching up to do. Haven't made it a priority to push rating, just venting 🙂
celest sinew
I think the games in such a weird state right now, like there's literally about 3-4 buttons to press for damage for each class and still people struggle
I got 2k on a pretty undergeared alt by just queueing with 2 mongo pve geared DHs
rigid linden
UNWASHED BROTHERS
OF MY KIN
FERAL BROTHERS
DO I BUY MASTERFULS
OR DO I REPENT
undone moth
is it gush tomorrow?
lime light
Idk big bites kinda pog at some point
livid wasp
Has anyone tried going full mastery yet anyway?
livid wasp
As feral I mean
lime light
Still feels like playing versa is must
With current rouge mage buffs
And destro cleaves being big meta
If u know they wont touch u, mastery is rly big bites on targets without armor
echo anvil
what corruption sh ould I be getting for feral in pvp?
stray sigil
@livid wasp i am going full mas
livid wasp
vast vapor
full big mastery little versa setup with mastery amps sounds so juicy
tiny oar
sounds like big BITES
sly pewter
Is the 6% Versa from sources worth it still?
uncut compass
Better to wait for rank 3 probably.
Sounds like some people in here are doing to stack mast but most feral streamers and jungle cleave teams I’ve talked to are probably sticking verse.
I am curious if it might be worth it to mix in one gushing tho.
sly pewter
I have really zero corruption now...I have one item and its a surging vitality 1
patent dove
@manic arrow we‘ll still have to do it imo.
ripe maple
I think for balance I’ll still try and use vers corruption, and maybe GW, any thoughts ?
rigid linden
feel like balanced could be good
GS procs on ur moonfire dots too i think so
nice spread pressure
ripe maple
Yeah that’s what I was thinking as well, might try it out and get some of em, which tank of vers is it ? 2 this week?
midnight onyx
Vers 1
ripe maple
Worth getting or wait
bold dirge
i've been fighting a lot of mages but i always feel like they have a self-save/instant heal on the hit i kill them, is that an actual thing?
vast vapor
@bold dirge its a fire mage thing, https://www.wowhead.com/spell=86949/cauterize
undone moth
MLD
manic arrow
Thanks
Who is being focused in this comp usually?
Which talents should I go for?
Honor ones
vast vapor
most likely mage or you but generally you shouldnt need to do anything in that comp to get to 2k
run around pillars and watch enemy die if they do anything
manic arrow
Sounds good
undone moth
tbh dont run around pillar
run around the middle of the map like a moron
watch lock oneshot things
dont even clone
clear pulsar
Crucible major probably, or vitality if you're struggling
small storm
gush this week
manic arrow
Well
The problem is I'm getting oneshotted
Dunno how
Ppl just switch for me, I'm using bark, overgrowth and going bear
But they don't care and still killing me in stun
Just 10% vers
lime light
if u playing mld
and u still dying
u might consider talking with your mage abuser and warlock disgusting abuser
that they can also press spells that dont do damage
like fear, poly
nova
conflag
coil
stray sigil
whats on corruption vendor this week?
clear pulsar
Resto set is popping
stray sigil
idk ppl were using gush on tr but also had full 475 and some 485
uncut compass
Anyone know what corruptions Maro has been running for the AWC?
stray sigil
we still dont use haste so our gush dmg will be consideraby lower
small storm
fuji doesnt even have full 475 with 485 smh
lime light
Gush on 485 Item can pump
silk seal
guys as balance druid do I should buy gushing or versatility after the nerf?
hidden sphinx
guys as balance druid do I should buy gushing or versatility after the nerf?
@silk seal The consensus I keep seeing is if you wanted to stack vers before you still should. But id take that with a grain of salt until a big boomer comes in to say yeah.
willow granite
What addon could help me to see uptime on my hot's in 2s? 😄
clear pulsar
It's not a pve parse
Overall uptime isn't a useful metric
Details shows uptime tho
willow granite
I mean more likely
Not uptime but when they expire etc
i play like that now but it's a bit too small
So i guess i need to get some pve healer addon ? 😛
clear pulsar
Oh
For tracking them
When they're up
The default raid frames show them, I thought
You should download BigDebuffs
To increase the amount of buffs it can display
willow granite
will check it, thanks
stray sigil
@clear pulsar LOOK AT WOW WHISPERS DWEEB
tranquil silo
gusting wounds work on multiple targets in arena?
i'm trying the corruption on dummies but it only affect one target
small storm
im told vers nerf and cns nerf with gushing on vendor is insane
unique cairn
so what will balance use for corr now that they nerfing vers?
pallid coral
probably vers
unique cairn
still after that hard hit nerf 1/3 of al vers going away
clear pulsar
Dilly's stream is a mood
Like yall I swear there is no magic formula to calculate the exact impact of a vers% nerf and the ratio of good to bad of gushing and vers% amp
The changes went live literally today
So no one has even played
unique cairn
fun watching my buddy play on his disc priest running tendie r5 it just chunks everythingf 😛
clear pulsar
With the nerfed things
thick lava
Imma go full gushing for the memes
small storm
gushing versa mix is prob best case
olive glade
Razorcoral is very likely complete garbage for rbgs, with crit being nerfed in pvp
sullen marsh
oh :/
rigid linden
@clear pulsar someone of fox's stream said he saw cassidy using crit gear in pvp today
i swear to lord
and i love it
hes stupid as us
with our meme builds
tiny oar
Lol
livid wasp
Tanks with full gushing will be fun
stray sigil
@rigid linden did u q with gushings yet
rigid linden
nop
but i queued uhm
on reset
at like 2am
in 2s
idk if ppl had gushings yet but versatile changes i could feel
my bike hit a mw monk 175k crit twice
stray sigil
im wondering if gushing a meme on feral or not
i qd a bit and 99% of rogues had 6 gushings
did mad dmg
stray sigil
bout what
rigid linden
hes going for 2x vers 4 gush and maut wep
seems pretty solid atm
I still want to try like 6 gushings 2 versatiles and no maut wep
but maut wep dps/corrupt is rly good so idk
ROFL
this is my mate
he has 7 gush 1 vers
like ur rogue friend
hes 36% with badge
ROFL
king
stray sigil
i wanna know
how 4 gush looks for feral
on details and shit
i had 2
and it wasnt doing much
rigid linden
can link some scr shots later im only on 3 atm
this is PVP scenario btw
2x vers 3x gush maut wep
im at 28% vers
missing 3 sockets though, so maybe like 30% vers in pvp scenario
stray sigil
ya i trolled a bit
and bought some mas
so i have maut 2 mas 3 gush atm
and im at 77 27
rigid linden
Im hopinh i can get socketed wrathion legs this week
i hate buying sockets for raid items
stray sigil
that leg kinda low on vers
rigid linden
Yeah but i need another 475 to put my 4th gushing on
or settle for the 470 crafted boots
rigid linden
@stray sigil can u link a screenshot of the tooltip on a 470?
stray sigil
ill log in to check
rigid linden
armorying u anyways
stray sigil
that doesnt seem right
rigid linden
login to double check cause armory might be stupid
stray sigil
rigid linden
yeah
rigid linden
ouch
yeah im going to put it on 470 crafteds
Well ill actually wait
for wrathion legs
wrathion kill*, see if the legs drop socketed
hidden sphinx
my dk friend is saying gushing wounds still twerks on people. thinking about buy a peice or two for the memes since i have a lot of echoes anyways and wasnt able to buy any vers 3 when they were up
rigid linden
Versatile isnt as valuable as it was when it first came ut
i think gushings is a good direction
hidden sphinx
i like boomer and i just wanna do beeg damage gosh dang it
fickle junco
does spirit link work on player controlled units?
manic arrow
Yeah damn
thick lava
Tf I feel bad for you man, that sounds like a damn useless trinket
lime light
Oh ye
Guess gotta visit the 1.2k bracket
@slate nimbus what procs more often as minor, crucible clf or puri?
Cuz all of them can proc gush also
slate nimbus
Idk man, didn't make maths, i think clf is best choice vs casters to cleave and protocol vs 2bl melee to pump damgur
vs 2bl melee my protocol is about 10-15% overall dmg everygame
slate nimbus
Ye i gonna try with 2x 485 items and vers haste items + 2bl vers trinket badge&insignia or insignia&nzoth
anyway all highrated games are about damp and pressure
onyx rain
Getting 450k on dummy with incarn atm with mastery build
slate nimbus
doing my 30 visions on feral kekw
thanks god this cd no blind shit so every vision is about 15 m
slate nimbus
Need 2nd carapace boots, cuz 1st are for strikethrough
gonna do that (finish 30 visions) in 8h
i think
wooden silo
The newest changes to Versatility and Conflict and Strife. Good or bad for Feral?
Because CNS now actually works on all stuns. It also lowers opponents protection from Versatility
slate nimbus
?
did u know that most of your stuns weren't affected by cns?
lost only 6% unbuffed versa after nerf 
not sure about gushings now
slate nimbus
ok, need to summon maths
lime light
I mean not sure how much i lost
slate nimbus
i have 53% versa inside arena with 5x amps
lime light
Still at work 
slate nimbus
i got 36.1% versa w/o amps
now the question, how much overall will do gushings
cuz if it's only 17-20%
that's pure shit
slate nimbus
i mean it doesn't matter how much it deals on any class except feral
lime light
48%
slate nimbus
i want see percentage breakdown among feral abillities
cuz i will literally traid 17% dmg from vers + some procs that would amp from corrupt
so i gonna just trade around 20% overall dps for 6 gushings