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rigid linden
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yeah when i q lock destro everybody is dead LOL

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and ive only quued it for 2 days

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it looked like vital and axtin were 100%

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whole game

stray sigil
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tbh they should have won like 10mins ago

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but ig mw u have a lot less cc

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i swear that feral lock is not good

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woez is just biggest titler na

rigid linden
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woww the ego

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u seeing this @clear pulsar

stray sigil
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bro

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do u watch axtin stream

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cant tell me

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woez is not a tilter

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LOL

rigid linden
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:D

stray sigil
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i do have an ego but

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i got humbled in this weeks awc

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LOL

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straight up got shit on

clear pulsar
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LOL

stray sigil
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were uwatching the games face

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cant tell me that feral lock was good lol

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borngood just trinkets first trap every game no matter

clear pulsar
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Nah I was making food

stray sigil
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axtin kinda got pooped on 3 (?) games in a row

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was unfort

rigid linden
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is the NA tourney tomorrow?

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could be why my locks offline

clear pulsar
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Yeah 9h from now

rigid linden
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ahh kk

stray sigil
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do i even bother watching that shit

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gonna be ml/x fest

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atleast eu is interesting

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na is just fucking lame lol

clear pulsar
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Not all mage lock

rigid linden
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na

clear pulsar
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But lets ee

rigid linden
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fuck that

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i aint watching SHIT

clear pulsar
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Yeah it'll be a lot of lock comps

manic arrow
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Guys, is it okayish to play arena w/o vitality conduit as a resto?

stray sigil
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i think in 3s ull need conduit vs most stuff

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but vs like rmp u need cns major i believe

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conduit too broken not to play in most cases

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@clear pulsar how many non lock comps are there still

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prob cdews then what

clear pulsar
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THE MOVE

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I think the team method orange faces is some ele lock hpal!?

stray sigil
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ok im rooting for the boo

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but i dont see them winning the whole thing with rps

clear pulsar
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I think they cant beat c9 but they should be able to get 2nd

stray sigil
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u think they can beat gores team?

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idk

rigid linden
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hmm

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u think well get a r2 versatile next reset?

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will be able to use another 1

stray sigil
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hope so

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ill able to use r2 next week

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so itd be pog

rigid linden
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yeah

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im thinking of dropping some echos this reset

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for fkn strikethroughs

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for pve

stray sigil
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pve DansGame

rigid linden
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nah by the time versatiles up

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ill be able to get 1

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from weekly loot

stray sigil
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u get like 5k a aweek from just boxes i think

hexed ridge
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any 2200+ rdruids in her?

stray sigil
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theres plenty but its kinda late now

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@vestal citrus

rigid linden
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3000-3500 from chests, then 1k from both assaults and then emissary cache

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yeah 5k a reset

stray sigil
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watch next week gonna be gushing

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right when they nerf it

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LUL

rigid linden
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yeah thats what i said

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fucking snakes

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LOL

clear pulsar
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Hamsti plays ele sp

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Not lock but just as aids

stray sigil
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oh yeah hamsti.teams is aids

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nothing dies in that shit

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legit the most unwinnable shit ive experienced

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worse than splay

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and they play like baboons too

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cuz it doesnt matter

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idk i think were.like

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0-5 vs hamsti

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fucking aids comp

clear pulsar
stray sigil
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hamsti is pretty bad but that comp

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covers healer so well

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that it really doesnt matter

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what do u q

clear pulsar
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You mean just to get shitd

stray sigil
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mage lock?

clear pulsar
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He plays double destro

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THe ratfuck

stray sigil
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rlp is free win

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mage lock is like 60/40

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gross

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that is not a fun matchup

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we actually have a secret thing we do vs double destro

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very 200 iq

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just play double dh with that one dh

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demoncouch or some shit

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thats all he qs

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LUL

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2750 cr xd

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ok bro but

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my jungle big dam

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well i do big dam

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willy just does w.e idk

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he a clown

manic arrow
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What is this addon

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that's why I asked

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too lazy to do this EP stuff lol

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about vitalyty conduit

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3s

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I'm pugging lol

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:D

stray sigil
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ya loot discrit isnt really up to date on a lot of stuff

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it takes what ppl log off with

manic arrow
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oh, well

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got it

stray sigil
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so id take it with a grain of salt

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cns prob only good vs rog mage id assume

manic arrow
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even in 2s or no?

stray sigil
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2s u should flame most games and go full baboon

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thats how u win games

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big dam

manic arrow
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okay, EP time then

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thanks guys

lime light
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Soda with 475 maut, 475 drest and 485 nzoth Shell "my gear is bad"

clear pulsar
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Guy's like the best geared feral sub 2.4k

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Playing with rank 1 hpal

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Blames loss on gear

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His gear is fucken nasty man wtf

lime light
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Some space random

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Spacerat or something

manic arrow
lime light
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But he is good

manic arrow
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10% vers :C

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it doesn't really matter?

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I was stacking mastery for m+ previously

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now thinking about to stack vers

clear pulsar
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Dude socks is a good hpal

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You literally stan the mies every chance you get

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Socks is the same, just a pleasant person

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You're in no position to puke at comps

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Mr double destro

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Mr mage lock mw later

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And dh arms mw

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Yeah? We know you will

lime light
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Warlockc bad

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Good one homie

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GOOD ONE

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Warlock bad in any ixpac

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Nah

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They are always broken

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Even in 8.0 they overbuffed them at the end

clear pulsar
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Idk like conceptually I'd imagine affliction should be good rn

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But it's just like

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Not

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Resto throughput is just sooo reliant on mastery

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It sucks

lime light
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Dakk said

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Affi is even worst

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On alpha

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And destro even better

clear pulsar
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We'll see in 6 months

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6 months of hoping they remove sabertooth

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And 6 months of being disappointed

lime light
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Just change the dogshit bloodtalons

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On alpha

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It hurts me

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When i see em

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My heart

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:(

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No, it cast only spec ones?

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That's what the tooltip says

clear pulsar
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It says it prefers to cast your spec's

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But like

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It's still full rng

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You can get 10 rejuvs

lime light
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I will get 10rakes

feral flicker
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Very tactical and skilled gameplay I love the direction this is taking us

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RNG gear and procs isn't enough

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we need more

lime light
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Ok, but u are weeb

clear pulsar
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RNG spell casts

fast vale
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Skill capped best place for resto pvp guide still?

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Completely new to drood

clear pulsar
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Funny thing is

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Wrath does more dam than shred so as feral you dont even want full shreds

lime light
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My shred does more

clear pulsar
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In alpha

lime light
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Yes iam alpha

rigid linden
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How much do u think gushing will cost

clear pulsar
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Same as the other 15 corruption ones

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It's not guesswork formy

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Smh

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4125

tardy hare
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Might be more tho

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As they call it a very rare corruption too

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๐Ÿ™ƒ

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Wouldnt surprise me

lime light
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If they nerf % vers

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Gush top again

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@vestal citrus

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Miestro playing with soda

clear pulsar
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THe mies is legendary

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DIE THE FUCKING DIE

obtuse ice
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Mi ?

lime light
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MIESTRO

obtuse ice
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Who's miestro

lime light
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LEGENDARY

obtuse ice
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๐Ÿคง

rigid linden
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hi

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i was in the mkiddle of watching

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fuckin show

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๐Ÿ˜ 

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U PRESSED

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BLUR

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AT 100%

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LIKE 4 TIMES

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LOL

clear pulsar
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Damn Glyph is embracing the nature of DH mains already

lime light
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That's how u Play dh

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If something touch u

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U blur

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Or u too good and 3k raiting

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Bri

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Bro

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U dont Burn the healer

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If he plays with feral

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That's the rule number one

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Just big dam

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Both

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No clone no burn

obtuse ice
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Bri

lime light
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Like gentlemans

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๐Ÿ‘† ๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐Ÿšช

rigid linden
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@vestal citrus can confirm u dodged 1 maim

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im washed

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drainer will yell at u and threaten to leave game

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LMAO

lime light
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Drainer after one gamฤ™ with Glyph "pls leave my grp and never apply again thx"

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IAM OOM

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Na players btw

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I swear

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Every mw

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Plays disarm

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Vs soda

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Crackheads

pallid coral
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jesus christ this stream is fucking insufferable

lime light
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Haha

manic arrow
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Is it worth playing with Vitality Conduit r1/2?

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Or it's better to keep CoF r3 before I get VC r3

clear pulsar
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It makes the major jump to a diff target

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If your main gets topped

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WHich is honestly not that great all the time

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And then minor yeah leaves an absorb

manic arrow
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So, I haven't got

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Should I go rank 1 since I get it?

stray sigil
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i dont think u play vit if not r3

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could be wrong

calm fox
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for resto do we stack haste vers?

lime light
stray sigil
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maybe method orange will be relevant again with dh boomy ๐Ÿ˜‰

clear pulsar
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Who's gonna be the boomie?

stray sigil
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jk that shit prob doesnt do anything vs locks

clear pulsar
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Sam's clearly not gonna roll off of DH

stray sigil
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trill dh sam.boomy

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like how they played

clear pulsar
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No chance sam stops playing dh

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The lil bitch

stray sigil
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sam best multiclasser

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stuck in method orange prison

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LUL

clear pulsar
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Sam literally holding them back

lime light
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just kick cdew

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inv mies

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i dont see a problem here

stray sigil
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how is sam holding them back lol

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imagine sam on a team like c9

clear pulsar
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Sam would add literally nothing to c9

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He wouldn't bring anything over wealthyman, snutz, or chanimal

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It's hard to call him the best multiclasser when he plays his main class and one alt which is fucking demon hunter

harsh jasper
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Just purchased 3 r3 strike.......

Still have 220k visions, and my two r3 severes are on haste gear

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Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

stray sigil
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sam a better mage than wealthy imo

harsh jasper
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Oops

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Wrong channel

stray sigil
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can play most clases

harsh jasper
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I'll see myself out

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Fuji!

stray sigil
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yo

harsh jasper
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Do you play resto or tank spec talent for 3s

small storm
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lul

stray sigil
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helllll no

small storm
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he plays tank

clear pulsar
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He's asking guardian or resto aff

small storm
stray sigil
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feral only player baby

clear pulsar
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You fucken illiterate fucks

stray sigil
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wait

harsh jasper
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Yea I meant aff

clear pulsar
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If he could he would 1. have found himself in better teams and 2. won stuff throughout his time playing professionally @stray sigil

stray sigil
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ya i play guard aff most games

clear pulsar
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The only time sam won anything was abusing dh boomie

stray sigil
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he did win blizzcon

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playing an alt

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but if

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ig

harsh jasper
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Oh ok cool

stray sigil
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@harsh jasper resto aff only if they train my healer or in 2s sometimws

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mostly guard aff in 3s

clear pulsar
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I used to never play guardian aff

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But it's so good when you go bear effectively

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Like

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Holy shit

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Frenzied regen is so lit

stray sigil
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i was playing guard aff b4 it was cool

harsh jasper
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Yea I just started using it and it seemed good

stray sigil
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axtin used to flame me for it

clear pulsar
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Yeah brother you inspired me @stray sigil

harsh jasper
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I just liked my clutch heals on my partner

stray sigil
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can def play resto in 3s vs non rog teams

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prob more a playstyle thing

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i play pretty aggro i tend to go in so works for me

small storm
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yeah i like to go guardian

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maul the opponents a bunch

lime light
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maul is a honor talent

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u mean, hearth of the wild

small storm
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i mean thrash swipe and maul

small storm
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yall are watching this shit right?

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ROFL

gusty arrow
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Can anyone give me an advice against 2x DPS (Rogue Mage etc.) in 2s? As a healer I feel im doing sth wrong and im getting killed x)

small storm
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hahahahahah

distant jackal
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Xaryu carried him better.

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1v2'd against R1 Mage and some other top tier Mage after Soda got oneshot

warped hare
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Hey, I've recently moved to horde from ally to play with my friends and want to create a druid (was my main on ally) but cant get my head around losing shadowmeld... has anyone done this and if so how was it?

My main worry is how I used to meld the enemies clone,poly etc and hit them back with a clone of my own.
Or being able to instantly start drinking if needed or even meld take for more cc...

small storm
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meld is op

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welcome to the rest of the world

junior pagoda
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Hey guys, I have a question. I never managed to go for the pvp weekly chest. Since last Tuesday, I managed to get to 500 conquest points only to see that the progression bar went back to zero. Will I be able to loot the pvp chest next week? Does the 500 points cap at some time or can I do it endlessly in the same week?

stray sigil
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ur just behind on the cap

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what does it say when u over the lil chest on pvp tab

distant jackal
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If it's yer first cap in this season you can probably get atleast 10x caps in a week.

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You only need 1x for weekly chest tho

junior pagoda
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Ok I see. Thank you very much!

pallid coral
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wwmp vs wwlp

stray sigil
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are u really watching na ? @pallid coral

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LUL

pallid coral
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bored

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

stray sigil
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na has 0 fun teams to watch

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other than the boo

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did they lose yet?

pallid coral
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think they're LB

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but yeah na has even more dampener scum than eu

stray sigil
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at least 2 jungles in eu

pallid coral
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and method black like to play rogue mage

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which are usually fun games to watch

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its really only wildcard who are true dampeners

stray sigil
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wc dampens enoug hfor 3 teams tbf

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i swear gores team has to be biggest chokers

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havent they been winning every single tourny until the last 2 awcs

pallid coral
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y

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they won every method madness

stray sigil
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they been kidna underwhelming

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these past 2 weeks

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and they can play the best comps

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so im not sure wtf is going on

stray sigil
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ya these games are boring as shit lol

trail glade
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what essences do i run as resto

thick lava
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Alright,I am feral and I want to know what you guys think. I am not which trinket I should be using for 2s/World pvp.

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My 2 choices is Corrupted Gladiator's Badge 67% Mastery and 23% vers.

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Or Lustrous Golden Plumage with 67% Mastery and 20% base and 35% vers when I use the feather

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460 for Badge and 465 on Plumage

pallid coral
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i'd play badge

thick lava
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Alright, thanks guys

trail glade
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i never fucking know

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when to take balance affinity or guardian affinity

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ya

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feral interrupt and stun is p good

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what essencest @vestal citrus should i run

clear pulsar
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Whenever I play resto

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I always go cns major

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Shit even in dungeons

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I'll play cns major

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Overgrowth is my biggest crutch

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It's such a nice spell

stray sigil
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nob

feral flicker
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Are stats like Leech active in rated arena?

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Like the extra stats that can proc on gear drops

clear pulsar
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Random procs on gear no

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Talents/spells/corruption/essences/traits that give you leech, yes

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The random +65 leech you get is not

feral flicker
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Cool thanks

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I have no idea what site to use to find random info like this, I kinda wish there was a Blizz page that had a list of "random shit that is nerfed, scaled or doesn't work in arena btw lol"

clear pulsar
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Yeah but pvp is a minigame

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You cant expect them to put effort into supporting it

feral flicker
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Yeah, I guess best to just ask questions and learn from community, or use details etc. to theorycraft yourself where possible

thick lava
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Man I feel fucked that I was busy with other things during the days the 12% vers corruption was up

feral flicker
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Yeah it kinda sucks for people that are time gated off that for like a month til it rotates again

thick lava
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I see that a bunch of the top pvpers went and bought one for almost like each piece of their gear and now sitting at 50% vers and stupid shit like that

clear pulsar
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It was literally week 1 so like

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You either played like 10h a day

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Or you already had it from not buying all the essences and kept saving

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I know friends who had 30k echoes

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Cuz of some offspec essence or another

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Week 1

thick lava
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I had about 10k but sadly was out of town for a funeral so I missed it

calm fox
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100 leech or a socket

calm fox
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for pvp as feral what stats should i be focusing on

clear pulsar
wanton cairn
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How do you guys open as Feral?

tardy hare
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Poggersss

smoky sail
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For moonkin 3s bis corru should be like everyone else versa Amp?

calm fox
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are these stats alright for starting out as feral i cant seem to get myself much more vers

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should i soccket vers or mastery

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as feral myb

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sadly a haste and vers proc haha

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i have no dps corruptions

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kk

smoky sail
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Glyph ma boi did u go mastery for big surge after or hast?

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Kekw x)

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Cuz last day I saw a mk send me 2 surges 170k each I don't understand mine only do 80 max

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Was wondering is this full mastery x)

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Ye

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Arena

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He also pop every coolys ofc but even then

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Was a big chonk surge

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Also u still play ele/mk or destro still good with us?

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Feel kinda meh with mortal strike melee :(

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Mmm ye

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Gonna try to get a big ele then double caster feel more aids imo xD

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And ele are destro nightmare :p

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Which is 50% of match-up - - "

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So you play CnS major even on castercleave?

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Wanna go for breath I guess I feel vision kinda meh since no streaking star :/ can at the best land 2 surge in the proc

clear pulsar
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2x rank 3 mastery procs + skyfury + crit will be a 170k starsurge @smoky sail

smoky sail
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No skyfury ^^

clear pulsar
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Well you did say every coolys

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:>

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Maybe badge then

smoky sail
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I swear this guy come alone in 3s maybe angry his friend don't join so he get angry crit buff xD

clear pulsar
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Badge is like 25% buff

smoky sail
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Ye he got badge

clear pulsar
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Maybe worldvein too

smoky sail
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Lmao

clear pulsar
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Bro no lie like

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Worldvein major might be the truth for boomie

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It's not like you're gonna move anyway

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And it's a bigger damage buff than incarn

smoky sail
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Ripple in space for arcane moonkin pOg

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Gonna try worldvein for science xD

clear pulsar
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Like no meme bro

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I kinda wanna meme some boomie in 3s

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With my guildies

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Not like we'll climb anyway

smoky sail
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I want play mk and try to climb class feel so funny but always climbing as healer cuz rip destro fire too good x)

clear pulsar
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You just need something with a slow

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Like ele or frostmage

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Or ww

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Ofc

smoky sail
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Mmm ye glyph tell me to go either ele or ww but I have no clue how to play with ww

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Is it like rmp playstyle?

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Ww is rogue me mage?

clear pulsar
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My starsurge tooltip is 63925, with incarn up it's 79906, with worldvein up it's 79784.
This is before incarn pvp nerf, which is from 25 to 15%, and with only 3 shards, no proc from minor for 4th shard.

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So worldvein is literally a bigger dmg buff than incarn

smoky sail
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What's the cd of worldv?

clear pulsar
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1 min

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18s duration

smoky sail
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Wtf

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:o

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Didn't know that interesting

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Also gonna go for drest trink for the meme err

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It's funny in 2s destro resto dru ppl didn't expect it after 2 bolt xD

clear pulsar
smoky sail
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Incite the pack goosybench

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Starlord? :o

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Also I tried lucid major kinda funny

clear pulsar
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Every min do a tremendous go with woe/foe/worldvein/rootbeam, then hold for 20s and do a bigger one with CA and badge

smoky sail
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Surge machine with warrior of elune

clear pulsar
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So I think CA cuz starlord gives haste which makes your claw bigger

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Incarn and CA both give you same haste %

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Tho CA is only 10% dmg buff in pvp while incarn is 20%

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So you can do a CA + 3x starlord claw go

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And on the next rootbeam you do badge

smoky sail
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Hmmmm sound good gonna try this way

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Was always picking incarn cuz dmg buff

clear pulsar
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That's fair too

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It also lasts longer

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Probably better

smoky sail
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Cuz since it's my main progress pve char got exp r3 x3 maybe good value on starlord but then all those useless severe xD

lime light
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Now u are boomkin abuser @clear pulsar

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Woaho

smoky sail
lime light
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I wake up, and insta backstab

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From my favorite ecat

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Little snake

clear pulsar
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I changed some pieces

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22% haste now

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30% vers

smoky sail
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50% baseline hast 4head 60% base krit xD

clear pulsar
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60% base crit?

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Wth

smoky sail
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Pve

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X)

clear pulsar
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I have a bunch of severe

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And still like 44% base

smoky sail
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Got 1 r3 4 r4

clear pulsar
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44% in feral so 39 in boomie

smoky sail
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Full crit socket

clear pulsar
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Ah yeah

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All my sockets are versa

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I should change ofc

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On the items I only use in pve

smoky sail
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But 10% versa for pvp 4head

clear pulsar
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Which is almost the full set anyway

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Bro gems are so cheap

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Could just change everytime you do something else

smoky sail
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Gonna aim for more versa baseline anyway

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With guildie we do that me stealth rush for root beam then pop 3 claw on midfield target x)

clear pulsar
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I just queued a skirm to test and

smoky sail
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Pretty funny

clear pulsar
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75k starsurge

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But my honed mind didnt proc at all

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Won too fast

smoky sail
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Or win

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Pal never bubble pepehand and they die

clear pulsar
#

1600 mastery proc and it didn't proc at all

smoky sail
#

XD

clear pulsar
#

That would be 26% more damage

smoky sail
#

I have to farm claw on dh for the meme blobthumbsup

clear pulsar
#

Could have had 100k starsurge no crit

lime light
#

Starsurge is nerfed in pvp

clear pulsar
#

Yeah this is in pvp you dingus

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And I can do like

lime light
#

U qing skirms ?

clear pulsar
#

6 starsurges during that burst

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During root beam into clone

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For instance

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Imagine with a frost mage

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For int buff

#

TREMENDOUS stuff

lime light
#

Sick in the head

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Just damp

clear pulsar
#

LOL

manic arrow
#

Guys, claw and voodoo is kinda default choices for resto?

clear pulsar
#

Need a stun tho

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Soooo

#

HPRIEST Pog

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Frozen chicken with holy priest or pala for mad stuns all the time

lime light
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@clear pulsar btw vodoo doll is best trinket in the game

clear pulsar
#

Maybe but my claw is 475 and my voodoo doll is only 465

lime light
#

Prot palla hits my hpal yestarday for 147k non crit

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465ilvl vodoo

clear pulsar
#

And claw scales with haste as well

#

BIG dam

lime light
#

Vodoo is broken af with vers smh

clear pulsar
#

Vers affects claw and voodoo the same tho

lime light
#

Or actually prot can insc dmg from items or something?

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That could be almost 250k crit with vodoo

smoky sail
#

Prot? Paladin ? Monkas

lime light
#

Ye both ruski, but my hpal with 8% versa survive

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Pepega

clear pulsar
#

Protpala has a talent that gives them

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1k haste 1k vers

lime light
#

1k vers?

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Ye

smoky sail
#

Isn't it drx special hidden alt? PogChamp

lime light
#

Nah full ruski dog

smoky sail
#

Was Qing vengeance dh some day ago TD r5

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TD was funny...

clear pulsar
smoky sail
#

Protect your healer until they get deleted xD

lime light
smoky sail
#

Very skill game play

lime light
#

That's the ruski prot

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With voodoo ready

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To penetrate

smoky sail
#

Is he playing prot as healer or prot + healer?

tardy hare
#

that's a lot of games played

lime light
#

Prot + arms

clear pulsar
#

He has 2k vers proc too

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Surging vita

lime light
#

Y

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And 30% base

clear pulsar
#

2.4k

lime light
#

But still insane to hit 147k non vrit

clear pulsar
#

With the amps

lime light
#

Ith voodoo

clear pulsar
#

So

smoky sail
#

My eyes 4k games

clear pulsar
#

2352, 27.5%

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+7% from strife

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So 65% vers buff

smoky sail
#

He should farm drest thingy

clear pulsar
#

To voodoo doll

lime light
#

Hahaha

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I know now

#

Look essence

#

LOOL

clear pulsar
#

Oh yeah

smoky sail
#

Ward major?

clear pulsar
#

50% buff

#

On top of vers

lime light
#

Lol

smoky sail
#

This guy look rextroy vods 100%

clear pulsar
#

With all buffs up

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He would be a 167% damage increase

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From seraphim + surging vita + strife minor + strength major

smoky sail
#

Better run pepekarp

clear pulsar
#

2 min cds tho

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Ofc

#

Oh

lime light
#

They left

clear pulsar
#

This is before wings too

lime light
#

After 40sec

clear pulsar
#

So wings would buff ur judgs

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Tremendously

smoky sail
#

But I don't get why he run mastery traits

lime light
#

Big ruski brain

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Ngl

clear pulsar
#

While also being unkillable

lime light
#

Mastery is damg?

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For lrot

smoky sail
#

Just pump Lil dmg on consecration

clear pulsar
#

Wings gives you 25% dmg buff

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Flat

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20% sorry

#

Outside avenger's might

smoky sail
#

Mastery is useless if ur not in consecration

clear pulsar
#

His IJs would be absurd

#

I think mastery is a flat damage buff at all times @smoky sail

#

The consecration part is only for the mitigation part

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Not 100% sure

#

Like dude

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You can run at a healer so easy

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With hoj into silence and all that burst

#

Like you fake with something first go

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Drest or bike

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And force trinket

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Or barkskin

#

Protpala disc can prob farm

#

The smallest one was no cds on a lock with wall up

smoky sail
#

Oh yes it pump atk power flat

clear pulsar
#

This is using two 465 azerite

#

Cuz I didnt wanna reforge my gorak tul and ij helm

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But next week I'll have enough for a trophy so I can upgrade my other pvp helm and use the ij one for ss + ap

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So I can have 3x ss 3x ap

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I just need to wait out my reforge cost

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Cuz I'm absolutely broke

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My lunar strike hit for 35k too

smoky sail
#

:o

lime light
rigid linden
#

@stray sigil oi

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u know all these ferals

#

who tf is devistonia

obtuse ice
#

It's me

slow hedge
#

Guys i'm playing 2s with warlock, which essences should I run?

crisp shell
#

Is a 445 An'zig better than a 460 random wep?

#

for Feral life

clear pulsar
#

Yeah

crisp shell
#

Cheers bruh ๐Ÿ™‚

stray sigil
#

idk devis

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i think hes a resto that logs off in feral

#

never seen him/played him

#

gysel does the same thing and hes a resto dh war player

#

@vestal citrus r1 went up like 60 points in 2 days? tf

#

was like 2640 two days ago

#

ah thats alliance r1

#

:')

steep tangle
#

Do I need to get Battlefield Master on other characters if I want the rank 4?

clear pulsar
#

Yeah

#

I think so

humble fox
#

Is this more of a PvP discussion for arena PvP or World PvP?

#

I mean I assume both

#

but I tend to do a lot more overworld pvp

clear pulsar
#

Most discussion is about rated pvp since

fringe hare
#

since wpvp is a joke*

obtuse ice
#

Well world pvp is just fun/ not competitive

#

so there is nothing really to talk about

wanton cairn
#

How viable is it to just stack mastery for PvP? As feral

rigid linden
#

Get vers first

#

At LEAST 30-35%

obtuse ice
#

very very very least 30

lime light
#

is boomking the most tanky spec rn after destro

#

LOL

clear pulsar
#

Cassidy's azerite is hilarious

#

Fucken blood mist

#

Oh it's because of the versa trait on 3rd ring

lime light
#

its like 50 versa

#

some %

clear pulsar
#

75 vers per with the amps

#

So almost 1%

#

2.7% total

#

From the 3x on my way

#

Seems pretty good

#

Those are the only pieces with mi + on my way too

#

So it's definitely cuz of that

obtuse ice
#

He don't care

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Tbh

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Cassidy isn't the kind of person wondering 50 min on azerite

#

He just takes whatever he wants

clear pulsar
#

Nah that's silly

#

It's his job

#

He isn't just taking whatever he wants

#

He's taking what's working out or what he figured was best, he def put thought into it

#

These are literally the only pieces with on my way + masterful instincts

#

It's obviously deliberate

obtuse ice
#

Okay bro

slate nimbus
#

kasu's jungle might be so tilted MingLee especially if nlite will make top2

lime light
#

how are jungles doing

clear pulsar
#

MyWay got smashed by Method Black turbo

#

nLite did well vs WCG, lost 3x2 cuz cassidy didnt have trinket, didnt pre bear or pre wall, and maro had combustion, zunni sheeped. Like perfect go by WCG, they were definitely ahead on the game tho

lime light
#

thx

clear pulsar
#

Now it's lower bracket final

obtuse ice
#

nLITE 1-0 MB

clear pulsar
#

They killed swapxy 80-0 in 4 seconds with no cds up, just double drest double reap and a big bite

lime light
#

bt bite?

clear pulsar
#

Yeah

#

He had MI up too actually

#

3x mi

#

Wait he didn't have BT up

#

He's playing BT but he didn't have it up

#

On that kill

stray sigil
#

lock scum down

clear pulsar
#

I'm going over my arena history trying to find people I might know

obtuse ice
#

shit life

clear pulsar
#

Possibly?

pallid coral
#

I mean you say about it being his job @clear pulsar

#

and then i hear about the fact that absterge didn't even know there was a vers shield and vers weapon

#

and forgot to enchant his gear

stray sigil
#

absterge is a goober tho

clear pulsar
#

Fair

#

Do they have salaries from their org tho?

lime light
#

whats goober

#

sounds cool

clear pulsar
#

Golden guardian is an org ye?

obtuse ice
#

ure a goober

#

tianton

clear pulsar
#

Also absterge has a fair amount of viewers on his stream pretty consistently

#

Cassidy does too but he streams like once a week

#

Doubt he makes much money from stream

lime light
#

lol

#

ok iam def not goober

#

kid

#

absterge can only drink vodka

#

and rp as vulpera

pallid coral
#

Golden Guardians is the Golden State Warriors @clear pulsar

#

its their esports division

#

they have a league team too

clear pulsar
#

So do you think they pay the wow team a salary?

#

What sucks about the game not having an established esport scene is that

#

Nobody cares about looking this stuff up

#

There arent any like

#

E-journalists focused on wow

pallid coral
#

i suspect they get a salary

lime light
#

@clear pulsar u mean specific team

#

or in general

stray sigil
#

they prob get a salary

#

but since its wow

#

i dont think its super high or anything

lime light
#

big orgs pays a lot

stray sigil
#

theyre not getting 6 figure contract for wow

#

im sure theyre well paid though

#

for wow pov

#

thats for sure

lime light
#

but i think the teams that are making it to top 4-6

#

they get enough money

#

and also 80% of eu teams "coaching"

#

like looney team

stray sigil
#

oh ya cassidy does a lot of self plays

lime light
#

rly

#

didnt know that he does it a lot too

#

but merce, maro, loony ecc

#

blizzo

#

u can meet them with coach every day

stray sigil
#

ya he talked about it a bit

#

without saying it ofc

#

i know he carried a hunter to glad last season

#

with metaphors

small storm
#

we want cara

stray sigil
#

ur not gonna see cara

#

lol

#

facile playing like a chad

small storm
#

lol ikr

#

actually tho facile so sick

stray sigil
#

ya is facile a new guy

#

i swear before this ssn

lime light
#

whos playin

#

rn?

stray sigil
#

never heard of him before

#

blizo vs cass

small storm
#

im not as knowledgeable but after watching a bunch of these games ive seen some sick plays

lime light
#

facile old school player

stray sigil
#

to me hilarious part

#

is

#

ppl were saying that tony's jungle was much better than cass

#

that was def a sus statement

small storm
#

dude they got destroyed by this team lol

#

clowned

stray sigil
#

i know i was watching them before

#

and they are def not as clean

#

they just much better at pressing dres same time

lime light
#

cassidys jungle better for sure

#

they play a lot, for so long

#

thats big factor in bfa

#

synergy

#

and in my way

#

hydra dont even know 70%

#

they say

small storm
#

wow

clear pulsar
#

Bro most of these teams dont have orgs sponsoring them @lime light
If you are just making top 4 every cup you still need a day job or to make actual money off of streaming/carries

#

You need to win cups to make a living out of wow

#

Not to mention nlite is speaking native language

#

So much better coordination

#

Than ruski tony speaking broken english

pallid coral
#

cassidy is actually giga smurfing

#

with defensives here

clear pulsar
#

Wish they showed essence cds too

pallid coral
#

wish they showed a lot of things

#

mobility cds

#

bash cd

clear pulsar
#

Damage meters

#

DRs

pallid coral
#

yup

#

lmao

#

damage taken in general

clear pulsar
#

Damn bro

small storm
#

legggooo

clear pulsar
#

Cassidy is so much better than me

pallid coral
#

nlite is playing so fucking well atm

clear pulsar
#

I'm so sad

#

And like

stray sigil
#

i dont think facile is french

pallid coral
#

cassidy actually godmoded that game

stray sigil
#

is he ?

pallid coral
#

honestly

clear pulsar
#

WCG are fucken insane

stray sigil
#

facile is lowkey

#

mvp

clear pulsar
#

They're not even playing bad but cassidy is just always pre bear the right time

stray sigil
#

tbh

pallid coral
#

facile is litterally a french word @stray sigil

#

lmao

stray sigil
#

ya i know

#

but they speak english to him on stream

#

im confused

clear pulsar
#

Their cross cc is always so tight

#

Beautiful stuff man

stray sigil
#

couldnt they just

#

turbo into jungle

#

i feel like that would be a lot better

#

here we go

#

the dampeners are back

pallid coral
#

boomkin ele

#

i think this is hard

clear pulsar
#

I think nlite can win playing full versatile instead of gushings

#

Their defensives are much better in dampening

#

And should also have more reliable healer cc

#

If zunni has a gnome monk ready to go which he should ofc

stray sigil
#

this def hard

#

cuz nothing dies

clear pulsar
#

It'll be hard to get cds cuz no mage to be squishy

pallid coral
#

y no good targets

clear pulsar
#

But if blizo died as arms

#

Zeepeye can die as ele

#

I guess it's an issue cuz

#

They'll both be cns major

#

Maybe!?

#

Thorns should be lit

#

And it gives ele lasso

stray sigil
#

i think arms dies a lot faster than ele

#

shield is huge

#

and when blizo died he was in battle i think

clear pulsar
#

Grounding totem sad

#

Zunni human

#

No gnome ready

#

But they're respecting ofc

#

No more double offensive trinkets

#

Cassidy with 30% vers amp

stray sigil
#

dont think gnome makes a huge diff tbh

#

can just freedom the beam everytime

clear pulsar
#

Maro playing vision major tsc tsc

pallid coral
#

god i hate lightning lasso as a concept

clear pulsar
#

Do hunters ever play the pets with wall tho? The 20% 3 min wall

#

Or do those pets not have mortal strike?

#

Cuz not needing to play freedom could make it easier to dampen with wall pet

pallid coral
#

don't think there's any MS pets with that

#

but i don't have an exhausstive memory of all hunter pets

clear pulsar
#

The hydra does

#

The direhorn too

pallid coral
#

yeah i just checked

#

blue has wall

#

oh

#

yeah

#

idk

clear pulsar
#

So maybe

#

But no biggie I guess

pallid coral
#

ok wtf

#

why does no hunter play these

#

they're cute af

#

and they have call + MS

stray sigil
#

hmm

#

hes playing resto aff?

lime light
#

resto is insane with stack versa

#

i wonder why he is playing fomrless

pallid coral
#

ooft

lime light
#

lol

pallid coral
#

trash buff @lime light

lime light
#

ye i know

#

on 2 ppl

#

but is it rly that good

stray sigil
#

idk about resto aff

#

vs that shit

#

prob easier on zunnys mana with guard aff

clear pulsar
#

Formless void is a 5% damage buff

#

Up almost all the time

#

I think it's worth

#

Over CLF minor

stray sigil
#

they just using it to cover the mists from zunny

pallid coral
#

clf is way more damage

#

but yeah

#

trash buff is nice

#

against big purger man

stray sigil
#

clf is like 2-4% dmg in games

clear pulsar
#

Nah CLF is not more damage

stray sigil
#

not a big deal

clear pulsar
#

It's occasionally more burst but overall formless void is def better damage

pallid coral
#

in pvp clf is def more damage

plain garden
#

@torn pivot you just destroyed me

pallid coral
#

the damage proc alone is 4% or so on an average game

#

and then it also increases damage dealt

clear pulsar
#

But you have to think about

#

It procing on off targets

#

Pets

stray sigil
#

dmg increase on clf is not reliable though lol

pallid coral
#

formless void uptime is not that giga insane in arena

#

because you occasionalyl go long periods of not essence

clear pulsar
#

Like formless void is always adding damage to your spells when you are going

pallid coral
#

advantage of formless is trash buff

#

and allways up for gos

#

but for general damage there's no way it's better than clf

clear pulsar
#

CLF procs what, twice a min

#

And it may proc on a pet when you brutal slash

#

Or on healer when you maim

#

I don't like CLF minor at all

#

If I had ripple rank 3 I'd prob play that

stray sigil
#

na

#

ripple not good

#

lol

pallid coral
#

hell i had a game recently where i did 38k overall

#

and 12% CLF minor

#

big ridiculous

clear pulsar
#

Bro every wild charge

#

10% damage buff

#

Easy pz

#

Also

lime light
#

ripple is nerfed in pvp

clear pulsar
#

Ripple minor + double movespeed gem

lime light
#

to 800 agi

clear pulsar
#

WHAT?

lime light
#

y

clear pulsar
#

THE ESSENCE THAT YOU GET BY PVPING

#

IS NERFED IN PVP?

stray sigil
#

na its a bit more than 800

clear pulsar
#

??????????????????????????????

lime light
#

or its a bug

clear pulsar
#

????????

slate nimbus
#

mad

lime light
#

its like 850 or something around

clear pulsar
#

What a dumb game

lime light
#

with 40-50%uptime