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Well you'll get inflated across the season too
But I wouldn't rely on it being lower for horde
It was higher for horde last season I think
na
it was way lower horde on na
was like 3.1 almost for alliance
and like 2960 or something on horde
1.5 oce
1.3 france
Oh you're na right
ya
Y it was higher horde last season on EU
is eu more horde or seomtrhing
cuz now most ppl playing alliance
tho im sureppl will faction change over the course of the season
like they did last ssn
but for na im pretty sure horde was much lower
ya was
3071 alliance
and 2953 horde last ssn
kinda nuts
It'll be high horde again this season
Think EU has a lot more r1s who raid as well
So they're horde for that
Like walli asgarath
people are already close to 3k
we qd into smex and mag last night
they were like 2960 or some shit
:/
also qd into mal and verin
and i love how maldiva's first global every game is infernal
LUL
that dudes going in
Playing Jungle, how do you guys deal with DHs? Just try to cc them and go different target?
So you can actually make kills on DH? Every time I've tried it's sucked so bad
I do 5cp maim, FF, bite, drest+flame
But I can't remember a single time it's finished a DH tbh 😦
Corruption vendor items rotates today on NÅ?
tomorrow
Woah
Straya dog
does anyone regularly do resto pvp?
@stray sigil so as I learned
From teslaboy
Versa scales defensively better than I thought it did
Because I figured it scales similarly to haste
But it's the opposite
So medallion is like an insane defensive cd
Like say you have 25% base vers right? And strife minor gives you an extra 6%. Then you have idk 4 12% amps. So you have 46% with strife at 8 stacks.
im at 50 with cns
It's a hypothetical scenario
Then you have a 470 medallion that gives you 1187*1.48=1756, or 20%.
If you are playing cns major, your damage taken will go from 54% of the original to 34% of the original during stuns.
So when you pop medallion you are getting nearly 40% damage reduction in stuns
ferals barely play cns major bro
and in ur scenario id have to use medaillon before i get kidneyd?
The way versa works defensively means that if you have 100% dr you're literally immune to damage
Because what it does is multiply the damage by 1-vers.
This whole time I thought it divided the damgae by 1+vers instead
Like haste does
With hasted cds
Right
its kinda emblem
but with dr
idk thats lame
so if i use medaillon offensively is be trollin
ya ill pass then
Badge is just much better burst
Cuz offensively, vers gets worse with each point, but defensively it gets better the more you have it
Like tesla said, if you have 98% vers, and you get 1% more, you're literally halving the damage you take
thing is it would be useful vs rogue only
cuz cns is bugged against 90% of stuns
so ud never play cns other than rogue teams
I think it'd be good vs ww teams too
so medaillon is extra niche
idk ww teams just ride disc
Doesn't vers also double dip with their atonement?
and claw/mala is insane for jungle gos
Inc damage from dots so they heal more thru atonement, then inc atonement healing
might be worth in games where we wanna dampen a bit maybe?
for him obviously
not us
I'm just trying to convince myself to play medallion

CUz my badge only 460
And my medallion 470 with socket
Got it this week
my badhe is 465 medaillon 470
but tbh i hate the icon of medaillon
so i prob never will.play it
Wise
insane iq
Medallion would still buf your reap big time
i appreciate the math tho
but i prob wont drop badge then
Is it worth using Void-Twisted Titanshard as rdrood for versatility?
I've checked lootdistrict and seems like nobody uses it :\
Totem/Claw usually
Would people agree that 1200-1600 is probably harder then 1600-2k due to raiders in full gear? Just my thoughts as a healer.. I’m under geared at 455, finding it difficult to keep me or my guy up in double dps against 450k+ healthed dps
I agree
no but lots are tanking rating to farm echoes rn
Joined this few months ago, 2.1XP and getting 1.6 was complete pain
so ppl that aren't trash are playing at 1200
Heh no kidding
1200-1600 is legit just do your regular spell rotation properly
I’m 1520 rn after 30-40 odd games, had a few one shots on myself including bikes and drest lol. But I’m close to getting out the shit
its not like ppl magically stop having gear at 1600
3s doesn’t seem so bad, I’m only 682 at 1900 mmr
I've played 2s with low geared glads and they couldn't do shit and gave up :D
No but people stop having gear and more skill which is actually easier to deal with cause you expect it
So I grab random 470+ surv without exp and oushed 1.6 with him easily
my dude im ngl it sounds like ur just makin excuses for losing at this point xd
No excuses, but explain two dh with drest and chaos one shot
My guy literally got one shot
We were creasing, was too funny
I just wondered on people’s thoughts
im just confused as to how you think you playing wrong and getting one shot would magically change at 1650 cr instead of 1550
the dhs are still there
I’m not struggling to get past 1500 lol I was just asking people’s thoughts on the bracket, it was just a bit annoying 12-1600
Yeah no joke
And wwdkmw can still play triple spit
I think what he's saying is people in that bracket play memes and he's not good enough to deal with unexpected shit @fringe hare
For instance he's saying DHs one shot, it's probably 3x TB with blood major and medallion, dark slash and momentum/nemesis meme


Brothers
@stray sigil @lime light @obtuse ice 2 jungles on top 6 EU tourney

Cassidy and tony both on upper bracket semifinals, and not facing one another
I dont think tony beats wildcard but maybe nlite beats method black
So we could have
Zunni vs hydra upper bracket finals

JUICY DRAMA BOYS
Tbf not-s-tier = bad
Nlite beat 3 overmatched RMx teams
Some top 200 people and ABC
They were joking ofc
Tony beat the dk dh team that beat nlite last week
Good stuff
But nlite got pretty much the best bracket they could have
Tony also beat snowmixy's team
And Relzah's team tho idk who these teammates are
i see im not a brother
@clear pulsar
gonna kms
do u know if they were BT or FF
Fox and i both thinking BT gonna be alot better now that every1 has vers
Not @ing formy smh wtf f2f

was also the only feral who got rank 1 range after they nerfed us to complete garbage 😠
in 8..1
not one of those SCUMBAGS 1 shot biting everyone to 3k then sitting rest of dread
nah bro i get it
it rly be ur own
just u wait
got jahmilli on btag now
formrage will rise again
Haha do you have good internet to stream brother?
Damn
Also you were talking with glyph about your latency and you said you use some re-router thingy or whatever, was it exitlag?
Do you think it's worth?
Bet he has u favorited too
Yeah 200 to 150 seems like big, how do I use it
Is there a nice vid to hold my hand?
trial and bought one show same results
u install it and u press wow and it auto routes u when u log into wow
I'm probably the single most tech illiterate computer science student on Earth
Tbh formy is just a sinister ferak
Kinda true tbh
Shingeki is the only real feral
Hes amazing
What a champ
Shingeki is a furry DH and nothing else
i took the midnight queues going anywhereeeeee
What latency do yo uget if you get put on east coast servers? @rigid linden
180-200
I'd int your games of u were eu
I wonder what type of latency I get on EU
Does that thing work the other way around too? Like if I'm east coast n join an oceanic group for keys?
What's a regular server I can test on? @tardy hare
Cuz I have an acct, just no expansions and no game time ofc
What kind of realm u lookong for
We dont have seperated stuff here
We are unified
But popular ones are outland, ravencrest
Stormscale
@rigid linden not very good englando on their site
I mean isnt there some server hosted in russia, some hosted in germany, some hosted in france, etc? @tardy hare

there are no servers in russia at all
all russians are playing with 35-40 ping as min
reason why all the eu players insta forfeit vs any russian team in bg
cant handle the difference
I know Fallen has done a lot of ads for ExitLag
There's a brazilian wow streamer that is sponsored by NoPing
Looks like 205ms on EU
During regular times on west coast NA I get 190 so not too different
145~ on sargeras
30-40 lower than usual
But the ISP at my place in college is worse, I wonder if it'll also put me at 145ms there
Bro
Oce twd does the same
HECK YOU @vestal citrus
Are you testing like
Sargeras or tich?
Some servers are on west coast some are on east coast
West coast will be much lower for you ofc
Illidan is east coast
Just make a character on the servers bro
Do RP since they supposedly dont shard
Emerald Dream is west, Moon Guard is east
Like the mies

Sorry moon guard is west, ED is east
I said wrong
Ok bro it's still like 7h
@clear pulsar ok so what's fucked up
Is CNS at 100% Vers makes you immune to damage
Is correct
But outside of CNS
You cannot get 100% damage reduction
From just Vers
It caps at 99©
So if you have 200% Vers you don't get 100% reduction
Blizz zzzz
It's hilarious that they're defining this ineffable truth thing as a bug when it's completely consistent with the rest of the game
And just completely ignoring cns
Well for the entire expansion really
I mean like
Well
IT being good for Hpriest BECAUSE of it
Since mop actually
I meant IT specifically like
Yeah
Just pure dumb

Very treacherous
Trying to dissuade us from the fact
That you literally just asked him to stream
So you can snipe
Without having on btag
Snowmixy is a good player
Like not a rank 1 obviously but
Idk doesn't seem like she gets hardcarried for being a girl
Her accent is fucken hilarious
she's a solid glad healer from what i've seen of her
Yup
i have self respect smh
@rigid linden why do u think bt is better then ff with verrsa meta
Iam always playing bt, just sometimes ff vs RMX or mws in 2s (not always)
But dont think so the corruption change have any impact on those two
+2/3 stuns we have dont work with cns
I think it's because
FF gives you more damage on go
But if people are playing cns major
It would be better to have overall damage!?
But like only matters if they fix maim/rake/intim
just seems like every1 has so much vers
burst go wont do shit
its just what the EU ferals were saying too
Cns needs a rework rly fast
Bt was always better
and FF and BT felt really similar
Dmg wise
Its fun
Compared to press button every 45 sec and right after bite
At least for ne
But shadowlands bt, iam not gonna Play it
If they make it like that loo
like
there is an opposite side of bt and versa meta conversation
spreading pressure as feral want do shit rn, ur bleeds will be just self healed with current amount of versa
and u can actually kill someone only in huge go where FF actually helps, pls cns doesn’t affect maim
i literally had more overall dmg in 10 minute game with FF than BT vs same team playing FLP
As i said before, dont think so ff or bt got any big impact on a game
meme talent row
Yup
but ff overall slightlyyyy might be better in sense of cp gain
Lets see how the jungles plays today
Think cassidy's team played something else i quali?
i think they played some ret
but idk what comps in particular
i just wanna see a jungle mirror
Hehe
Ye
Ye cara played something on his dwarf ret
Not sure what comp
Phmw maybe
But seems like
Worst jungle
think most likely they played a cleave
Ret arms?
y i could see that
reset
Allright
What kind of stats do I want as resto in 2's? Will probably play with arms warrior and sometimes destro lock
I have like 3500 haste and I heard about 1200 is enough
There arent any set thresholds, and resto suffers from having throughput very reliant on mastery.
Your preferred stats will prob depend on what you're healing
With a destro, it's unlikely people will chase you off, so you wouldn't need vers to survive
But if you're facing purge spam, haste would probably be better
Vers is bis defensively for yourself
I have literally 0 vers on my gear as I mainly do m+ :(
Most people I see end up with some 16-20% haste, rest on mastery/vers
Well I imagine in m+ you'd want some vers!?
Mastery doesnt buff your damage
And you'd have to be doing some seriously high keys to need extra throughput
Like I said it'll depend on what you're healing
If you have no vers you'll be doing better sticking with destros or firemages
High haste isnt bad, it's certainly bis for being aggressive with dots and cyclones
But you need to survive
But I mean for m+, I won't do much higher than 20 keys so that's why no versa
I guess I'll have to farm some versa items for pvp
Still good idea to go for gushing wounds after nerf or should I try %vers and vers on hit? 
vers is interesting
Vers% is the move tho
I think its not unlikely that it gets nerfed
@tropic schooner hey brother long time no see

You still play wow?

i love feral in 2s but so far my experience in 3s has been really boring and i feel like im not doing much damage just cloning off, peeling, and ccing stuff
is it comp dependent or do i just get bored easily
thinking of going bear for 3s just to smooth brain my way to decent rating
U dont rly wanna clone if u wanna win
Stop playing clone
But like
Bro
If getting cross cc setups isn't what you like about arena
I suggest playing dh
Why do u think soda is stuck at 2k
Playing with r1 healer
And being almost 480ilvl equiped
With 32% base vers
My favorite is when he face destro
And he is tryin to clone locks cb cast
Locks finish cb and fear him
Before he can get cyclone
Cyclone can work in 3s only if u Play with big dam other dps
Ok tian
I think clone can be good in 2s for a lot of matchups
But it's not really necessary
So if you arent good at using it
No reason to
Sometimes you just gotta send the big dam in
Vs arms/hpal destro teams, mage healer teams
Yeah sounds about right
Better if you have a hpal that likes rep
Or a sham
With disc you might just play big dam every game
You think I should level up alchemy to have alchemy trinket?
Cuz I dont have an insignia at all
I have IT on alt, and using till i socket insignia
But the trinket is bad overall
Dog uptime
Its not rly worth it at this point
Only in early season i would say
Ok
I'm always shifting around with my trinkets
Bike drest seem too good to play badge
Iam 34%
Dogshit
Mythic drest is prolly biggest upgrade i could get
But rly dont wanna raid
Its around 30k dmg
@rigid linden ill be waiting for the free cr brother
What are the best resto trinkets for arena?
hm ok maybe ill stop playing clone then? idk... in 3s i was playing with lock and mw, and then with dk and mw and neither felt great like i was being impactful lol
Claw from Maut, Voodoo Totem from Ataldazar, Emblem/Safeguard, Badge/Insignia if you have vers % amplification @grand marlin
With lock you're there to help get bolts off
@small storm
So just do that
I wouldnt play clone but it can help get kicks out of the way
Thank you 
it would help to slow people down in that case then i guess
Wouldn't play clone with a dk, prob just rush healer every game and you win until duelist
i still feel like a pvp noob lol faceroll 2s didnt teach me much
I think you're just overthinking 3s
In 3s it's just a more pressure on your healer is all
probably, the drawn out games make me feel like you have to chain some impactful combo
@rigid linden we q pretty late sometimes like 3am est
More people ccing, more kicks, more damage cds to respond to
in 2s i played with rsham and the core of winning was kicking healer, what is my kick prio in 3s? like chaos bolts or fears with lock? gpyro with mage? or still healer
ur going down
Idk you should have CC for healer when it matters @small storm like if you're killing, the healer should be stunned into fear/clone/rep/legsweep/hex
Fuji I believe in you brother
and who else
^
i do remember smight and willy being assfucked by my feral and a lfg hpal in 2s
Do you tho
@clear pulsar
ya idk they both clowns ngl
r u ok
all fighting words aside
good on u fuji for finding a team
hardest part of 3v3
is that
he said they both had shit gear thats all 
ty mr mie
Get fucked f2f unforch
shiiiit


Guildie also has literally 3k games played this season
wait...
Boy is out there GRINDING
he said who is this guy i used to play with a 1800 feral
now i q with 2k feral big moves
@clear pulsar all u need in bfa to get rating is, 3 ppl that have a lot of free time + good pve gear + synergy
wtf...
Wow that's some verin degen level of games lol
FREE TIME
he said leafy can take u out
More free time than life time
pretty sure leafy gave me a free ride from like 2600-2800 when i queued arcane fmp in sinister
loved vsing his team
LOL
Thnks fr the mmr
ya they keep.telling me leafy is a 2k feral
leafy is na feral or what
wait i aint even trollin i think i have scr shots of my REflex addon LOL
ya leafy was willy and smight s feral
before me
but they keep telling me hes big dogshit
LOL
no1 knows any ferals man
i kno every na feral
I know like 10
gotta know the boys
zev u mean
Sips THUNDERZILLA LOL
Fuse
oh ye
fuse with omnibar
in the middle of his screen
just to make sure
he cant see shit
boomsurge
bean was soo good
dallas
at some point
easye
Soda I guess??
night
Talason soo good
who the fuck
are these ppl
o i know shenz
back in my days it was just fuse zev sifox and i
/spit
Who was the feral that played with jelly when they were in team with rubcub?
TWAS YABOY
Wallabare?
🤢
soda was insane in cata/mop
he was
if u ever versed him he would style
Still cant believe ur a fucking WORGEN man holy shit
maybe next month
hey man im a troll male
u know whats weird @stray sigil u had fkn insane mastery/vers b4 corrupt vendors and NOW u decide to get CR
wanna explain how that fuqn works
LOL
Willy wonka?
willy troll hunter
Lol
the question is
Troll is actually useful tho
will u break the 2600 barrier
Fuji always trolled me
with willy
ya they were playing with leafy and i played them with my rag hunter
Worgen is just bin trash
and shat on them
uh well c
depends on the qs
if we face ml/x or shadowplay its doomed
@tiny oar cmon man..
Bro in the last 2 weeks Fuji went horde > tauren > zanda > regular troll
just snipe rmx free win
if we fave rmpal its big pog
dont need to be nelf to win
and avoid destro cleaves
This man gives blizzard more money than our entire server combined
the race
comes from within
we had to dodge flarks team the other night
Style on everyone
thay shit was way.too toxic
which 1 is that
Sounds fun
willy cant train rsham aye
vile
but they sucked so we won anyways
smight 20% hp no mana they still train willy 

ya flarks a big f word
Jesus
LOL
small pp iq bfa dk
bro lol
Truth everyones 40+ vers
Yea that's a good one
u play a good damp comp tho
Formy's fmp is washed
And vultz is a classic wow player now
i am the FMP architect
i have a notepad of strats
ya vultz aint coming back
and fucking cmd
is a RMP rat now
i wd into cmd last night
Fucking spiter rats
huge brain comp
Wealthyman on lock they bouta pull the double destro today on tourney
Or or
Triple destro

Might as well
wait getrow was playing dk protpal??
pls giv gush vendor tomorrow
omg i am going to tell him off
getrow is a tank comp abuser
Ssn before that too rite
legit trashcan
lol i play with getrow
yes
we raid tg and queue 2s
Seen clips of him linking absolute air
he keeps trying to get me to play bear
Queueing with/at rank 1 range
hes on my spit.list now
DONT DO IT MIKIE
eckssssdeeeee
/cough on him
i really only like blowing people up in 2s and with big versa stack i doubt that keeps happening
U actually lose brain cells queuing tank
na not in3s
Bro idk at 2.2 these destro resto teams keep dying in 3 goes
It's madness like
i hated it so much
If you ever face destro
Just kinda be super aggro on their healer
And they fall over
I swear
If they arent 2.4+, the healer is always the weak link
thankfully we got shit on so i didnt have to play tr long
Cuz you dont have to know how to heal
LUL
To get 2.2 healing a lock
i should start playing resto then
Like when I healed my lock friend who had good gear
We literally only lost to mirrors and hunters
rdru is legit resident sleeper in 2s
Yea mirrors feel like it's all up to the lock basically
Even if I do 2x more dam than their druid doesn't matter sometimes
Feels weird
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rdy for some feral ret
Wish I had a dres to use
feral ret?

0 chance
Ret arms for sure
ah ya
Facile might? Idk bro
cass arms warrior
only zoooonyyy
:kappa
All you need
Smx n vanguard queue that shit kinda pumps when they can actually hit something
i mean ret dmg is disgusting but
he wont get to play the game vs mage lock
Ret arms your healer never sits full cc
Yea
theres like no melee cleaves on tr meta
its mostly jungle
maybe ww dk?
rest is melee destro
or rmp
there are
dh cleaves
and arms also insane, but on tr, the back might gatekeep it a bit
cuz its set to 50?
Those are the ones that matter
The bracket is on battlefy brother
Tren and lontar vs lyanne's team on lower
Ratapai's vs some people I dont know
ratapai the goldshire erp godx
What lol
Yeah that's them
i just wanted to know the other 4 teams
Ratapai's vs some people I dont know```
which teams have ferals
Nlite and my way
ty
TOO SLOW OLD RUSKI
please

STOP u brazilian APE
please ping me when ferals play mie if u don’t mind
@small storm

poooogers
😠
Aka a premature ejaculator
i dont fight meld abusers
ROFL


@small storm test
not yet brother
just making sure u are ready
gn
lol











