pvp

[unkempt sonnet]

1400*

[clear pulsar]

I think drainer plays some resto druid too

[unkempt sonnet]

Aye

Ik drainer

Minpojke probably best bet if not sub only

[clear pulsar]

Doomsen and healingstat vods should be free too

Pojke prob sub only

Metaphors sub only

[unkempt sonnet]

It’s more for wtf to do in openers, like example

[clear pulsar]

There was some resto druid today on the EU cup, tomorrow is NA and I don't expect many but might show up too

They're on youtube now

[unkempt sonnet]

Rogue cheap into kidney, smoke down mage opens I stun and try to jump out but get insta gouge or pet nova ya da ya da

I’ll look later

I’m trying to learn to read the screen better to gain more iq 😅🔫

I’m a BM hunter main, don’t judge

I got 2k rbg when it first came out as resto but not played since

[clear pulsar]

@rigid linden BRO WE IN IT BRO

Need to do 22 keys until tuesday

To buy a 3rd one

@unkempt sonnet a lot of it will depend on what you're playing with like

Some specs can peel better

[unkempt sonnet]

Probably rogue in 2s

[clear pulsar]

Some specs you dont have to get desperate to save in smoke bomb

[unkempt sonnet]

I see

[clear pulsar]

I dont really have any specific advice but yeah watching those guys should be nice

@west oasis was the resident resto but he's retired

[small storm]

dude just spam pvp

[clear pulsar]

You think I have people to pvp with?

[small storm]

it was pretty free like 60 per game

[clear pulsar]

Bro they all horde and/or quit the game

[small storm]

tru got 1000 from a lil sesh

like 1.5 hrs

[clear pulsar]

I shoud just spam some

[small storm]

prob comparable to m+ spam

[clear pulsar]

Feral hunter 2s

[small storm]

ya i did feral disc

[clear pulsar]

1.5h you can get like 5 15s done

[small storm]

first time ever trying it was so ez

[clear pulsar]

225 each

Yeah prob comparable

[small storm]

went like

25 games maybe

15-10 or smth

didnt realize how ez it is

i started running the setup with GW and it was pgood

maybe i buy 1 versa 3 and then save other 10k for severe

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar im about to have 4 12% pog

[slate nimbus]

thanks god i farmed 100 wins yday

gonna buy 5 r3 versa

[clear pulsar]

[obtuse marsh]

I'm seeing a pretty even split between mastery stacks and versatile stacks amongst the top rdruids on the ladder

which would you say is better for 2s?

[autumn sphinx]

Anyone know of an addon that tracks daily/weekly conquest sources? Like Wintergrasp 10kill, Daily chest, daily chest nazjatar, bounties, etc...? For ez CP cap when I'm still to low ilvl to actually hurt anyone

[obtuse marsh]

I like being tanky but I felt my heals were shit when I last tried dropping mastery on gear

[calm sonnet]

So for feral we'll target 3 versatile 12 ? No more gushing? 🙂

[lime light]

As many as u can

[calm sonnet]

no masterfull or Honeymind to play with masterful instincts

?

[lime light]

Pls no versa rank 3 on eu

Iam not rdy

I cant Play 24/7 till wend

😡

[slate nimbus]

it is

[lime light]

No dont do IT to me

:(

First 25 visions and after that 2s frind

Just finish me

[tiny oar]

big F

[forest kite]

What corruption do you take as a resto drood ?

[keen phoenix]

How long until corruption vendor changes?

[lime light]

mouseover uldum assault

[obtuse ice]

Pokemon gotta catch them all

[obtuse marsh]

haste% mastery% probs
@vestal citrus I'm seeing a lot of druids at the top of the ladder stacking vers

some stacking mastery instead

nobody really stacking haste

That's just an observation though, couldnt tell you the reasons why

What I don't get is, why these druid running vers %?

wouldn't some 'vers upon taking damage' actually be nice mixed in for resto

since you need the vers when under pressure and it contributes more overall...

[tardy hare]

Cause its random

And big vers% you'll just have a free wall every stun with conflict n strife

[obtuse marsh]

And big vers% you'll just have a free wall every stun with conflict n strife
@tardy hare this makes perfect sense. Flat % synergy with CnS

I had to spend all my echoes on expedient for PvE sadly so I’ll miss versatile this week. Gives me more time to decide between mastery or vers stack at least

When I was playing today I literally only got focused once so mastery would have been miles better but other days I am getting trained all day long

Probably because today I was with a lock and usually I play with a DH since there’s millions of them on LFG

[tardy hare]

Using my abilities how?

[tiny oar]

Daily reminder dont queue guardian

Daily reminder glyph is scum destro player

[obtuse marsh]

Yeah. It’s really only when you get completely locked down that vers is better right and if your positioning is on point, it shouldn’t come to that

Except against rogues but I always run guardian vs rogues for this reason. If I can bear the kidney it’s huge

[pallid coral]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/dalaran/Jmaclicious

[stray sigil]

LMFAO

mad lad

[pallid coral]

imagine stuning that lad

like he's actually just immortal

how do u actually kill that

idk

[stray sigil]

its ok bro cns useless vs feral

we in the clear

[pallid coral]

missing 8 sockets too

[obtuse marsh]

10% mastery though

Do his hots even do anything?

[pallid coral]

i mean he has 70 vers

think they probably tick ok

[lime light]

its like

having 2 barks on all the time

almost

LOL

if he procs conflict and weapon enchant

that have big uptime

and proc

he will be easly 85%

all the time

[stray sigil]

ya na

cuz look at azerite

hell loose a bunch of vers in ovp

pvp

he loses like 400 vers just from traits

more than 400

still crazy tho

[lime light]

anyone can recommend music that i can listen to

when doing 26 visions?

in a row

[faint jewel]

How much vers should i aim to have in pvp as feral?

[lime light]

70%

[faint jewel]

xD

[lime light]

or at least 50%

[faint jewel]

Forreal?

[lime light]

ofc

[faint jewel]

Daym, i have 13% rn

And 55% mastery

[lime light]

so u gotta buy the 12%versa that is comming

as many as ucan

[faint jewel]

Is it coming today?

[lime light]

-35 corruption

cuz u want maut wepapon

weapon

yes

if u are eu

[faint jewel]

I have that weap

[lime light]

its comming

if u are NA

its already there

[faint jewel]

i'm eu, so it's coming later on

[lime light]

9pm

3hrs 33 min

[faint jewel]

Perfecty, got some time to farm echoes then i guess

[lime light]

i guess u do

[lean gulch]

https://gyazo.com/8979d8f72eef60b103743ad3bfb8737c

my gear any good?

needs more sockets imo

[lime light]

https://puu.sh/FNTQP/906779d747.png

i heard that

its 0.3 sec fear cast time

not sure?

but 58 corruption Pepege

[tiny oar]

I might puke

Destros are a blight on this earth

[lime light]

BRO

u are rdru

arent u

their best partner in crime

[obtuse marsh]

its 0.3 sec fear cast time
@lime light Just the idea of that is giving me PTSD

[tiny oar]

I ain't got any lock buds so cant play rdruid, maining mw now

[lime light]

POG

q ww mw

[pallid coral]

oh no u have to play the best healer in the game poor u

[tiny oar]

Poor me :)

I got an hpal too but I suck at it

Need to take notes from the mies

[sturdy turtle]

anyone know about corruption priority for resto pvp? can't seem to find up to date info

(for 2s and 3s)

[lime light]

@tiny oar https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/draenor/gâz

[steel osprey]

that's actually so toxic

[celest sinew]

@sturdy turtle vers amp is pretty much the way forward

[sturdy turtle]

thank

[obtuse marsh]

I ain't got any lock buds so cant play rdruid, maining mw now
@tiny oar You don't HAVE to play with lock

to play druid

[thin orchid]

Hey guys do you think druid surv arms can be a viable comp in 3s?

[steel osprey]

above 1800 probably not

[lime light]

its called KFC

it can be ok

nothing special

[steel osprey]

and you'd have to spam clone a lot id assume

[tardy hare]

used to be good

not seen a lot rn tho

[celest sinew]

Feel like it falls into the most comp category of being better with a monk

[pallid coral]

good god i hate wizard matchups

[west oasis]

amen

[calm sonnet]

Do we know when severe 3 or crit dmg will be released?

[pallid coral]

no

sometime in the next 4 weeks

[stray quail]

is that versa 12% corruption best or should i wait echos to versa proc one ? for feral

[gusty arrow]

I did read that as rdruid your haste and mastery should be around the same, is that true :3?

[west oasis]

preference tbh

some keep it around the same

some want more haste than mastery (for slightly faster clone/casting/globals)

some want more mastery for fat healing

[harsh jasper]

Feral Question (asked in feral as well):

I may have missed it in the chat, but has there been a discussion about getting r3 vers from the vendor this weekend for a dank PVP set? Im still torn over sticking with my Crit Mastery Build, that is very bursty in arena, for a meme versa build.
Any thoughts or discussions?

I dont really have much vera gear....best I can do is 18% based versatility (without versa corruption).

Right now i mostly pvp with a r2 tendies, and some ST and SEV with a 53% crit 50% mastery 9% versa build.

[small storm]

who is rengo

[warm niche]

Is there a sequence/way to avoid a bug on this situation. I have a 470 piece I want to use an elite trophy on to take it to 475, I also want to SOCKET and corrupt this item. I've heard rumors there's a way to do this without a bug happening which prevents it.

[lime light]

hmm

i had something similiar but that was more like

i got an item from cap

i used some random sigil on it

and now i wanted to big tropgy it

but before corrupt it with versa 3

but it says, the item cant be mod

and i found something in reddit

the answer from gm

that u cant put corruption on item that was from cap

cuz they cant corrupt

[slate nimbus]

they actually can

be corrupted itself

literally was getting avoidance from cap

[lime light]

same

but gm said something else

and u cant corrupt em so

i got the big haste proc once

on weapon

[small storm]

wish there was a pvp sim

[slate nimbus]

u can sim a pvp dummy, but won't give u any useful information since it can't kite/cc and have 40% versa

idk if there is some some string to setup versa on ur sim target

[clear pulsar]

Does the pvp dummy apply pvp nerfs tho?

Like bite is nerfed by 20%

But like you cant sim damage burst or actually useful metrics

[rigid linden]

@harsh jasper you'll find that vers mastery actually accounts for more burst damage than crit mastery, crit dam is halved in arena so if U went vers mastery your non crits would probably hit as hard as Ur crit mastery crits

I used to play 50% crit in arena , it definitely works. But that was before all these vers amps cane out

[harsh jasper]

makes sense

luckily I had a bunch of 470 and 475 vers gear from chests

so I have 39% Verse now with vitality prock

proc*

Ill give arenas a shot and see how it works out

@rigid linden

[robust yacht]

Sorry first time in pvp.. wat does a rest druid go for in stats

[clear pulsar]

If you consider that 1% crit will generally be 0.5% average damage gain, then crit gives you on average, to get an average crit rate that results in 1% damage increase you need 144 of it, while for versa it's only 85. Ofc crit has other interactions that arent just direct damage, but ultimately it's less reliable and on average less of a gain than stacking versa @harsh jasper

[harsh jasper]

Appreciate the help @clear pulsar and @rigid linden , I'm assuming this applies to world PVP as well and not just BGs and arenas?

[maiden ridge]

how much vers do i want as resto in 2s?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah pvp nerfs are dynamically applied once you go into pvp in open world as well

[rigid linden]

Ive seen people

drop mamut weapon

[west oasis]

@maiden ridge there's not really a set number for vers

it's preference tbh

like if you notice you're getting trained alot maybe you want more versa to help you live

or if you're in afk wizard comps

you'll opt to stack as much versa/mastery and just enough haste

[heady meteor]

anyone wanna practice in 1v1s? I'm undefeated since 2004 so if you get upset when you inevitably lose I'm gonna block you til you lose the ego.

[stray sigil]

@rigid linden idk i think not playing maut is super niche

[small storm]

boys

hit duelist for the first time

im 2 hype

time for the long road to feral glad

[slate nimbus]

cba, went to 5x versatile and maut with 48 corruption, wanna see my 54% non-buffs dmg increase inside arenas

[lime light]

monkaGIGA

[kindred sedge]

what are all the bis feral trinkets? pvp

[lime light]

Drest bike

Nzoth trinket deff wise

Badge from pvp

The versa + main stat proc from pvp

[kindred sedge]

thx

[terse shell]

uh wait they nerfed feral?

[jagged tartan]

Hey guys just trying to get back into retail.

can anyone help with what is good corruption gear in pvp?

[pine folio]

Gushing wound altho it did get merged

Nerfed

Then severe/strike through

Altho id aim for severe for the crist

Crit*

[jagged tartan]

I have seen a boomy who has just stacked Versa on every piece of gear

he has 50% versa

[pine folio]

Yes

In pvp vers is our main stat

For damage/survivability boost

Then mastery for bleed damage

And ferocious bite ofc

[jagged tartan]

so as boomy should i stack versa?

[pine folio]

Don’t 100% quote me but I think vers and haste become the top 2 for boomy

To reduce cast

But yes, stack vers as high as you can get it

^

[jagged tartan]

ok thanks guys

[lime light]

Soda doing 9k DPS, aint mop when u can bleed and spam clone

[pine folio]

Aim for a twisted appendage as boomy

And voit can help with stat buff

Void*

[topaz python]

Guys what do I need for resto? I am mastery / vers stacking but my heals just feel like they do nothing

[tardy hare]

Void is literal garbo

[feral flicker]

@topaz python What comp are you playing out of interest?

[solemn scroll]

so whats the consensus for feral corruptions for arenas

just stack versa % ?

[small storm]

ya p much

im not good but without buying anything i run this

https://i.imgur.com/TGcLF9Y.png

2k versa, 1.7k mast, 675 haste, 464 crit

[solemn scroll]

i have

r2 vers, r3 vers ican purchase

and same proc as you

and maut wep

good?

do we even bopther with gushings these days

[topaz python]

@feral flicker I jsut play first one that accepts in LFG, im 1900

[solemn scroll]

how does this look like

3x iron jaws, 2x masterful instincts, 1x jungle fury

[lime light]

thats what i play on alt

[slow hedge]

As resto druid in 2s, should I just stack versta% or something else?

[humble fox]

How do you get a pic like that of your character?

[swift hornet]

how would u guys rate boomkins after the corruption vendor introduction? is it possible to stack a lot of versa and dont care about all these dkdhwwdhwwdk mongos?

[solemn scroll]

@humble fox addon narcissus

or something

[cyan steeple]

guys i play feral in pvp/arena. I'm dabbling in Boomkin. whats the stat prio for Balance arena? vers/mastery?

[forest kite]

Any tips for dh/dk in 2s as boomie? I feel like they offset any pressure I put out quite easily

[small storm]

@solemn scroll i have 3 ij 2 mi 1 gl

my corruption isnt necessarily optimal u shoud ask da big dawgs for that

like whats theoretical feral bis pvp corruption

[stray sigil]

vers amps

[small storm]

all versa? some mastery? some gushing still

[stray sigil]

and maut wep

[unique cairn]

so i got the 475 maut wep, what cossuptions should i focus on ?`vers al the way or

[stray sigil]

ya

[unique cairn]

got 3 surging rank 3... versatile 1+2+2+2+3

[clear pulsar]

Damn

Heck you brother

[unique cairn]

is that good to have? 😛

[small storm]

idk about surging in pvp its just unreliable

[clear pulsar]

It should have like 60%+ uptime if you're getting hit, it's not amazeballs but it should still be better than haste shit or mind flay or whatever

[unique cairn]

475 versatile 2 on haste verse socket item.. versatile 2 on crit mastery item... 460 versatile crit vers... 475 vers 1 crit vers socket item.. 470 versatile 3 haste mastery item and 475 maut weapon

so just stacking flat vers stat corr is best then or add some mastery also for higher dpts?

il equip and se what i land at 😄

[stray sigil]

surging prob not idea for jungle

[unique cairn]

im thinking 3s

[stray sigil]

90% of teams go hunter

[pallid coral]

that used to be the strat

[stray sigil]

idk ferals way more tanky than hunter

[pallid coral]

but now everyone slams hunters

[stray sigil]

when i play vs shadowplay

if they go me

its much better for us

[unique cairn]

23.69 crit 19,25 haste 32,29 vers 41,03 mastery

[clear pulsar]

Yeah thats fine, if you can drop haste for mastery without losing vers that'd be best

[unique cairn]

mostly the rings they give me 434 haste but 731 vers

got surging on the ring, could drop that for a versa 3

would put me at 43 corr tho

is that okey to use in arena?

[stray sigil]

nop

its not

39 or less

[unique cairn]

cool

so 38 corr 24 crit 31 vers 13 mast 18 haste, maut 475 weapon drestagath trinket 475 versatile 7 and surging 3

corrupted gladiators medalion stat increse of 3k on use

[stray sigil]

13 mas?

i like badge but ppl saying that medaillon maybe better if u have a lot of +12%

[unique cairn]

ohh 42mastery

[stray sigil]

dam u have kinda low mas

ur gears not vers mas i take it

[unique cairn]

it was 42 mastery not 13 😄 lol

[clear pulsar]

Well you have like base 40% from cloak and necklace

So your only other mastery is from weapon

[unique cairn]

kinda

[clear pulsar]

It's whatever

So much of your damage isnt affected by it these days

[unique cairn]

got mastery on 2 items 😛

[clear pulsar]

@stray sigil medallion is the same increase in damage regardless of your versatile corruptions

In theory

Badge is always twice as much burst

Unless you have a go with breath buffed from killing pet I guess

[unique cairn]

yeah 3512 agility is alot

u go sabertooth/wildcharge/guardian/mighty bash/soul/brutal/frenzy i gues

problem is i have jack shit when it comes to azurite

[clear pulsar]

Azerite is overblown

You don't need 3x ij or 3x mi

JF is fine, heart of darkness is fine, some of the stat procs are ok too

[unique cairn]

wep enchant is that force multiplier or?

[stray sigil]

vers nav

bt might be better now which is pretty pog

[faint egret]

current meta for resto druid pvp is now stacking vers>haste?

im seeing people in arena leaderboard stacking a lot of vers and haste with minimum mastery

terodactyl, trille

soo whats the general stat build im so confused now

[harsh jasper]

@clear pulsar @rigid linden finally got some time to play with a Versa build.

two r3 surging
one r3 vitality

22%base versa before the 1794 proc which pushes me to 43% during a proc.

working pretty good

[faint egret]

im playing with a lock so haste mastery is better than haste vers?

[rigid linden]

think we capped out bois

[stray sigil]

noob numbers

git gud

[clear pulsar]

Damn brother thats some sick vers

Is that with badge or no?

[stray sigil]

bruh

u can see his trinkets

@clear pulsar smfh

[small storm]

damn only heroic drest

[stray sigil]

i swear badge insi feels a lot better than the pve trinkets now

[normal saddle]

anyone tested with the all vers build? Or should I just keep waiting for SL

for feral*

[fringe hare]

what does that mean

[normal saddle]

Just seeing if feral can actually pressure things now, most games felt damp AF

I saw a few weeks back people started playing JF/IJ instead of IJ/MI

[rigid linden]

I finally got good gear so im back to vers mastery now

[feral flicker]

So having 30% vers, conflict and strife major, all your buffs and going random BGs in bear form is hilarious

Bonus point if it's eye of the storm and you just sit in the middle using Typhoon to knock people off the edge

Can't wait to get my last vers amp and watch it be even more ridiculous

[drifting wraith]

how much vers ppl run in pvp as feral ? kinda wanna try it

[stray sigil]

i have 43% personally

could run higher but i think maut wep is too good to lose

[small storm]

how many corrupts

[drifting wraith]

tnx for answer will try to get around 35% for now

[stray sigil]

@small storm 4 12% and maut atm

[small storm]

nice

i have 2 12%s atm, a vers 1, and a surging vitality 3 plus maut

i have 20k echoes idk what i want to do tho

6 versa 3s would be huge

plus maut would be 68 corrupt ouch

3 weeks until that gets under 60 thats huge

i wonder if u can run that

[clear pulsar]

I'd buy 2 more at least bro

Cuz like

You'll get another 8k or so next week easily

You can play a bit and buy 4 severe 3s if they're available

So no need to keep saving up right?

[small storm]

my average is 1500/hr atm, so thats 3~ hours worth for a stat3

[rigid linden]

i think 4x and maut is the cap RN

[small storm]

4x 80+35 =115-87=28 corrupt

ya

is 40+ really just rip or is it workable with that much vers

[clear pulsar]

Nah not good

Like tfb is too big

To have in pvp

[sick hare]

-10 for the breath right

[clear pulsar]

Even with 30% dr from vers

It'll still hit you for like 100k

And an extra 100k can be lethal so often

[small storm]

yes 77+10 for breath clicka

and ur right

well i mean weekly reset is like 3k+ from boxes

emissaries, raid, vision and ur at a free one

so ez then i can buy 2 versa, then 3 severe when its out

big pvp big pve ezez

[clear pulsar]

Socks is playing 2s with sodapoppin

LMAO

[small storm]

lmao

what am i watching

also why are there so many rogue/spriest comps at this rating? i faced like 6 of them

rofl his stats

14% versa

[feral flicker]

Wait he's 1900 rating already? Wow...

[tiny oar]

Ye queued into him the other day my warr just fucking obliterated him

[small storm]

oh wait hes on Iwtkms

[tiny oar]

No versa

[slate nimbus]

@clear pulsar as far as i know, tfb cannot be reduced with versa, it always hits you for same amount. But same time SI works. Might be wrong, but just got 20-30% hit last night with C&S up in hoj with 81% versa on procs

[clear pulsar]

Well versa maybe increases the damage it deals too

[rigid linden]

@stray sigil you queue with willy and smight right? was peeping ladder and saw u

[stray sigil]

ya

we tryin to be big boys

i wanna play sifox so bad but were too low

LUL

[rigid linden]

wow

fucking warden

[stray sigil]

git fukd

u lil aussi fuk

[rigid linden]

smh

saw most ferals running 4x vers and maut wep

then sifox just going 6x vers

LMAO

[stray sigil]

ya thats what im doin too

ima squeeze in

2 rank 2s

when cloak gets high enough

[rigid linden]

6x r3 and 2x r2?

or 4x and maut

+r2's

[stray sigil]

na 4 maut and 2 9s

ya

[rigid linden]

yeah

[stray sigil]

cuz ull be able to run 5 12s and maut

but thats worse

[rigid linden]

we cant use another r2 next week either

[stray sigil]

quick maff @clear pulsar

ya

[rigid linden]

week after tho ya

[stray sigil]

its like 2 weeks for 1

[rigid linden]

then wed be like 37 corrupt

[stray sigil]

and 5 more for the 2nd one

[clear pulsar]

Bro

[stray sigil]

something like that

[clear pulsar]

Why is every hpriest that signs up for any key I do

Absolute dogshit

[stray sigil]

cuz they play hpriest

[lavish ibex]

because hpriestw

duh

[rigid linden]

warden hates aussies

[lime light]

Cuz no greater heal in pve

[clear pulsar]

Yeah culturally inept mods smh

[lime light]

So they dont know what to do

[tiny oar]

Formy getting the f2f treatment

[lime light]

Also u need to inv destro

[stray sigil]

cant be toxic anymore @rigid linden 😡

[lime light]

Too

So hpriest feels comfi

Like in 2s

[stray sigil]

or a fire mage

or 2 destros

like our good ol resident r word rustyx

[tiny oar]

Gross

[lime light]

Who is this pally

Doing some big dam

Like mies

Outdpsing soda

[clear pulsar]

Socks is a legendary cont

The space rat

This mount is actually inspired by him

Bro you're a mld player

[lime light]

U looks like a trashbin

[clear pulsar]

[stray sigil]

mld players

also goes for rmpal players

[clear pulsar]

I wish I was an anything player

[stray sigil]

come horde be a double feral.player with me

[obtuse ice]

You're talking too much guys

Recently

[stray sigil]

whats that supposed to mean u lil baguette

[obtuse ice]

It's hard to follow everything

[stray sigil]

:(

[lime light]

Follow your heart

[obtuse ice]

@lime light

My heart belongs to you

[robust yacht]

hi anyone know any website good to learn / ref for pvp?

[lime light]

[stray sigil]

@robust yacht twitch.tv

best way to learn is watch ppl play

arent u a destro hpriest player

for that u shall never speak again

only non scum class is feral

it is known

[obtuse ice]

Looking at guide

Can help a lot too

[stray sigil]

i feel like you get more out of a stream than a guide

cuz u get their reasoning and shit from streams

that's what helps u get better

[lime light]

Smh boom ele farming everything on awc

But boom is dog

🥺

[obtuse ice]

To improve while watching streams

You already need to know a lot of things imo

Cause it's like showing a League team fight to a random he won't get a shit

[lime light]

@vestal citrus do u have 70% haste on lock?

Or small pepe

[clear pulsar]

Bro

[surreal heron]

🤡

[tiny oar]

🥳

[calm sonnet]

boomi pvp is like feral? stack versa + mastery?

[rigid linden]

@vestal citrus

[lime light]

IT looks like erp

To me

Oh nonono

[tiny oar]

[lime light]

Ok bois its time to visit 1k rating today

Gimme the echoes

[clear pulsar]

destro main

rbg title

pvelord

[tiny oar]

U got rank 1 titles n u rock a fucking rbg hero name??

So wack

[clear pulsar]

Idk if glyph has multiple boomie rank 1s

Let alone on same druid

If he has 4 diff

Glyph prob got rank1 on bfa s1

Abusing dh boom

[tiny oar]

Are they character specific?

[clear pulsar]

But dont let that fool you

That man is a destro lock through and through

[tiny oar]

Unforch

[lime light]

Boomy abuser is fine

But being a destro abuser

IT makes me sick

[tiny oar]

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

[kindred sedge]

whats better, humming black dragonscale or vita charged titanshard for feral pvp?

[lime light]

Both bad

Go humming

[kindred sedge]

yeah. i cant get drest

i have the bike though

trying to farm the KR trinket i think thats bis

besides drest and pvp insignia

[rigid linden]

bike and drest seem good even with like 33% vers

[kindred sedge]

ya

but whats the budget drest

cuz it aint dropping for this kitty cat

is dead eye spygllass good?

[lime light]

No

Play pvp trinkets or bike drest

[forest kite]

should I play starlord over incarn if my azerite has streaking stars?

[turbid trail]

Streaking stars does almost zero dmg in this pvp.

[forest kite]

should I try to get 3x AP and HOD?

yeah have 5x 12% now

ty ^^

[unique cairn]

azurite is any of the raid ones good for feral arena?

need to get that damn bike trinket 😛

[lime light]

yes

they are good

hod jf

[unique cairn]

got stygian guise 480 just need to buy otehr ones 😛

[topaz python]

Hey can some resto god please give me some tips / advice on my stats. I'm stacking mastery and vers but I just dont feel like I can pump heals. I'm new to dudu in 8.3 and the problem is I'm probably not pressing the right buttons anyway
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/woohoo

[rigid linden]

BOIS BOIS BOIS

LISTEN

I think

i THINK

next week we can use 3x gushing

and 4x versatile

if we DITCH the maut wep

and itll probably be better

3x gushings > maut

[small storm]

Are you sure about that brother

[stray sigil]

i dont think its better

its gonna be roughly same dmg but ull lose the healing

its shit on feral brother unless u have shitload of haste

[wind kettle]

@vestal citrus for 3s as moonkin with. Mw and ww(sin):. We are making it to damp and winning, but very slowly.

We usually get kills on during incarn late in the game. Cause the burst is big enough. But I'm really having trouble feeling effective between incarns.

Spreading dots and starsuges. But not sure what to do with my cyclone between cc chains.

I have been cycling between the dps if peels are needed. Stack verse and bear heal when they swap to me.

I'm may still be top damage, but feel like I just wait for each incarn.

Is that really the meta or am I just being overly defensive and to suck it up and pump.

[lime light]

I think IT wi be more dmg

But maut healing is also decent

Like rn gush is 18k dmg in 7 sec

[harsh jasper]

So I was being cheap using my echoes, I mean I have plenty (plus I have 250k visions .....) and I was sitting at 38 corruption and 22% versa.....but with two r3 surging and one r3 12% for a 43% versatility on proc.....

Trying to convince myself not to spend 15k echoes on three more 12% to hit that 35% no proc cap range......

Basically deciding between constantly being 35% or chilling at 22% with 43% burst windows.

[lime light]

So 3x gush will be 35k in 7 sec

[stray sigil]

thats pre nerfed and pre vers mitigation

[lime light]

So if u have 100% uptime on it, gonna be like 300k dmg per min

And with maut

We aa every 1 sec right?

Lets say we have full uptime on target

[stray sigil]

itd be 15/min

wich is like 20k x15

its legit the same amout lol

but you lose healing from dv if u go gushings

[harsh jasper]

Yea I love Maut weapon

nom nom heals

What is this badge everyone keeps talking about

[stray sigil]

actually dv would be more dmg

[lime light]

Its like 250k and 250k healing as maut vs 300k dot

[stray sigil]

with the 35% nerf

[lime light]

Imo

[stray sigil]

ud do 22750 with full ultimet

[harsh jasper]

dear god I hope its not something I got and scrapped accidently

[stray sigil]

uptime

so maut is better if we say 100 uptime

[lime light]

If u have big 475 vers weapon

Gush might be worth

Otherwise no point

[stray sigil]

gushing only good for haste heavy spec

[lime light]

Even with low haste its ok

Just maut better imo

Bigger hits

And healig

[stray sigil]

na no haste is pretty bad

we did tests on sifox stream

u need haste for it to be worth it

[lime light]

Ye but versa

I was resting with power l versa few days ago

And average was 16k

And i gain 11% versa for now

Maybe vs destro gush

Is a play

[rigid linden]

hmmmm

but like even with 1 gush its 5% of my damage

35% nerf itll be what like 3.5%

[lime light]

Anyway maut weapon can crit for almost 30k with priest buff

[rigid linden]

yeahhh

itll be kinda same actually

FUCK

mauts usually 6-9% dam

[lime light]

• some healing

And big ilvl weapon

With bis stats

[rigid linden]

GOD DMANIT

[lime light]

I rly wanna Play one gush vs engi abusers

But not yet

[stray sigil]

i swear engi not even that big a deal lol

[lime light]

It is actually idk

Everyone plays it

[stray sigil]

ya but with sbt

its so w.e lol

sure its a bit annoying

but ppl blow it out of propt

[rigid linden]

it always gets my fucking rip

[lime light]

But iam playing by

Bt

Ye its always rip

Smh

Lol

[harsh jasper]

Im so triggered right now

I PVP alot

I like to raid too, so I sit the bench alot as a feral, so I pvp while I wait for my chance, etc

AND IVE BEEN PVPING WRONG THE WHOLE TIME

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I feel like a new cat

[rigid linden]

ask @stray sigil hes the gladiator here bro im washed now

[small storm]

fuji take me to the promised land

[stray sigil]

LUL

win on dam

[tiny oar]

Just kill the other team and dont die TM

[harsh jasper]

Fuji, gladiator with a healer or double dps?

I like double DPS BOOOOOOOM headshot 2s

but I wanna push 2400

[small storm]

i succeed with disc and r sham but that isnt replicable bc its like a top rsham

[harsh jasper]

Yea I guess Ill have too go with a disc

I just really like rolling with a Ret or DH

[fading goblet]

Disc lf fetal partner if anyone is interested! Chill dude 2.5xp 2.3cr :)

Feral rather

Awkward

[lime light]

u might add the server 🙂

and try in priest discord

[fading goblet]

Right that would help lol, NA horde

Yeah I'm looking at a few places

Lfg seems to have peaked in toxicity

[cyan hare]

Mage boomkin 😍

[uncut compass]

Worth it to ditch 475 maut for more vers %?

[lime light]

@clear pulsar i kinda like predator in m+

it kina feels like bleed spec again

[stray sigil]

@harsh jasper uh cant get glad in 2s but i like feral disc

[harsh jasper]

@stray sigil oh ok gotcha. Glad in 3s? Hunter Disc Feral?

[stray sigil]

ya i play jungle at around 2.6 atm

havent qd post 12% vers madness

im kinda scared

[harsh jasper]

Lol I bet. I have not had any luck in the LFG 2s , i have been in the 1650-1750 bracket for a month.

But I was using LFG and using my Crit Mastery PVE build with like.....5% versatility.

Since switched to a Versatility build I've pushed to 1870 last night. With a random DH.

[forest kite]

Over 40% base vers is a bit ridiculous

[harsh jasper]

Is that even possible without dropping DV or going over 40 corruption?

[lime light]

pvp trinkets

[harsh jasper]

I have versatility gear in every slot and I'm sitting at 1650 versatility without any buffs.

[lime light]

or sucked sockets from visions

[harsh jasper]

Yes but he said based. Is there a trinket eith non proc based versatility?

With*

Cause if so I want that shit right meow

I'm at 22% versatility that jumps to 43% with surging procs , and even more if CnS procs

And then stacks

[stray sigil]

i have 43% base

with insignia and badge

could be higher but i played maut wep too

[harsh jasper]

What in the hell....how, are those trinkets 1000+ versatility?

[stray sigil]

na i have 4 12% vers amps

im at 37 ish with bike dres

[harsh jasper]

Oh ok gotcha. I guess I should have farmed more 12%. I had 2 475 r3 surging pieces so I only bought one to stay under 40 corruption .

[stray sigil]

the amps are better than the procs for sure

[harsh jasper]

Well I could farm 1 or 2 more tonight

But fuuuuuuuuuu

I have 3k echoes and 26 vision runs

[stray sigil]

if u play maut wep

u only need to farm 4 12%

then ull have to farm 2 9% later

[obtuse birch]

i gather from this conversation that i should not be stacking mastery?

[stray sigil]

nop

[obtuse birch]

well shii im at 93%

[stray sigil]

vers is too insane

u bought mas amps i take ?

[obtuse birch]

one, and i happened to have 2 others

[lime light]

mast is good for dam, but u gonna f33d

[stray sigil]

its not the worst thing

just worse than vers

[obtuse birch]

ill have to take a look at what gear i have for a vers setup

[forest kite]

I'm umming and arrring whether to stack mastery amps (as Resto) for BG's or Versa amps... i play a more healing only tank style. It's a lot of echoes either way...and i dun want to make wrong choice. Any resto droods here can chip in?

[obtuse birch]

vendor is up untill reset tommorow right

[stray sigil]

ya its up till tuesday

[spice vine]

anyone tried the full versa build as feral? I have a 470 weap with tentacles 3 and 460 maut weapon and not sure if its worth it to swap and go full versa

[lime light]

its worth to go full versa

[small storm]

dropping dv is not worth

[stray sigil]

i know sifox is doing no dv

but he said its cuz its nota 475 anzig

[pallid coral]

Wait what

[clear pulsar]

Wut?

Thats fucked up

Cuz there is 475 cut of death

[stray sigil]

wat

[sinful lance]

does spite keeps stacking during cyclone?

[stray sigil]

no

[obtuse ice]

No

[rigid linden]

n0

[clear pulsar]

NO

[sinful lance]

i tested it during duel and it seems like it was stacking

[rigid linden]

If Ur right then we're all dogshit and never listen to a word we say

[stray sigil]

clones makes u immune to everything, if it works its a bug

[clear pulsar]

I'm just repeating what fuji the best feral in this cord said

Formy is washed dont listen to him

[sinful lance]

i would tought so too

maybe my friend is not smart and its not stacking

[covert chasm]

If Im 1577 can I talk in here

im a big gamer

[rigid linden]

yes

[covert chasm]

[tiny oar]

[harsh jasper]

@stray sigil brahhhhhhhh

I went and searched 34 pages of items I had trashed

and restored a 460 badge and insignia

LOL

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

@harsh jasper pog

badge insignia is the play

we dampening ml/x now boys

legit take no dmg

[clear pulsar]

I'm using badge + drest

Cuz dont have insignia

I swap drest for psychic shell if I'm scared

[rigid linden]

OH ITS TIME BABY

[stray sigil]

i tried dres bike but just cuz we tried going healer in 1 comp

but i still think maybe vers is better for that too

but vs ml/x i legit was tanking gpie and dark soul easily

felt like we only lost pressure whjen they went my hunter cuz he doesnt ahve as much vers

pog

[rigid linden]

yeah i still use drest bike in 2s

need that big boom

[stray sigil]

ya but i think badge insignia is better for a lot of stuff in 2s

like rogues, locks maybe ww

if u wanna run at healer then for sure dres bike

[cyan patio]

Electrostatic wrists good for feral pvp?

[rigid linden]

dogpoo

[cyan patio]

Really?

[rigid linden]

Does static damage , cant crit, has no stats on it, vers amps are massive so ur missing out on alot

[cyan patio]

So requires a lot of vers to be effective?

[stray sigil]

it doesnt scale off of vers

its gonna be 60k no matter hwat

im pretty sure

[cyan patio]

Well I can guarantee it scales, but I was questioning whether the push for more more vers was needed for its effectiveness

[copper sluice]

is gushing wounds any good for feral?

[cyan patio]

As of this Tues possibly not. Getting a 35% nerf

But don't rule it out

[copper sluice]

is there a list of nerfs? i heard Vers was getting nerfed too

but nothing reliable

[stray sigil]

u need like 3+ gushings for it to be worth

[small storm]

what pvp talents would u run in 3s with a destro

[stray sigil]

as what feral?

[small storm]

oh yeah sorry

i just presume this is feral pvp always lmao

with a MW

i usually go ferocious wound, lotp, clone but since fear dr clone i go thorns

but like even then, if its more ranged then what else do i run, momentum?

king of the jungle?

[stray sigil]

depends on what u face obviously

but vs shit like ml/x i like momentum

but thats from a jungle pov where you barely take clone

so im not sure if clone is big in feral lock or not

[feral flicker]

Wait, Carandir who said vers is getting nerfed?

[obtuse ice]

[lime light]

Idk how would they nerf it

Like make it 50% in pvp makes non sense

Only way would be cap max versa in pvp

Or nerf conflict versa in stuns

Anyway conflict bugged and ignore our 2/3 stuns

[rigid linden]

some ppl always seem to forget that u get dmg with vers aswell

idk why the commotion is so crazy

people gained 25% damage and 12% DR

[forest kite]

sucks to be a stun class

brb stunning = dps loss

[clear pulsar]

@rigid linden broooo ive been sayyiiiing that

If people has 25% versa and now they have 60%, they do in fact do more damage than before, as well as take

But then mongos will look at arena cups and say oh look c9 is dampening so vers makes game damp

[tiny oar]

Ye heard theres a druid out there with 70% vers baseline

Sounds pretty fucking insane

[lime light]

Think if they wanna leave the % versa like that, they have to change conflict smh

I mean for feral rn, IT aint bad, just dont Bash kill target Pepege

[forest kite]

What amps for guardian affinity resto drood for casual battlegrounds? Torn between mastery or versa.

[lime light]

For healing mast is bis

For survi and healing vers

[forest kite]

I am leaning towards the versa amps....they would be sweet for pvp kitty and tanking higher mythic plus keys aswell.

[summer stirrup]

Can I carry a WSG flag in Travel Form using the Travel Form PvP talent?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah, but don't take that talent, it's garbage

[lime light]

Pog talent

[ember scarab]

Hi good morning. I want to know how to beat a blood dk. I do PvP as guardian.

Got'cha lol

I mean, do they have abilities I can interrupt?

[indigo estuary]

moon fire does have more range than their kit, and if they cant death strike, you theoretically win just by being faster

[keen phoenix]

Does versa buff Ysera’s gift?

[fringe hare]

yes

[keen phoenix]

My new favorite healing spec is guardian with 42% base versa, 950k health, protector and master shapeshifter. Oh, and one ysera trait. Healing is on point

[crisp tapir]

i dont use master shapeshifter on 2's

o:

[lime light]

@keen phoenix u are disgusting animal

[tiny oar]

What tianton said

But whatever makes u happy go for it

[keen phoenix]

@lime light indeed I am. Sick of destros and dh’s recking the game, so figure I can reck some myself as well

[tiny oar]

Give those destro player scum hell then, godspeed :peeposalute:

[keen phoenix]

Nothing but love in here❤️

[clear pulsar]

I was only able to buy 3 vers%

[small storm]

sad i could have bought 5 but i didnt hoping for severe

omegalul

only snagged 1 so i have like 10 vers

[clear pulsar]

Should have bought before reset

And logged off

TO keep the refund window

[small storm]

ya just got 1 idk why i didnt spend them all lol

[forest kite]

is anzig worth cleansing for more vers? probably not right

[coral ledge]

Anyone have recomendation for boomie pvp? 2s or 3s whats a good comp and talents-corrup?

[keen phoenix]

What are people going for? 4 versa% 2 proc? Or just the most amount of %?

[stray sigil]

@forest kite no

[stray sigil]

@keen phoenix maut + %

[tardy hare]

@rigid linden

xplain

[stray sigil]

washed up old man abandonned feral 😓

[keen phoenix]

Why not surging? With 48% increased versa, one proc would count for a lot more I think. Do I actually have to do the math on this?

Speaking of, anyone have % uptime for surging vitality?

[clear pulsar]

0 if u arent being hit

Usually 40-50%

[dull blaze]

I was being told that Resto on live has changed from Mastery/Haste to Haste/Versatility for PvP/Arenas. Is this accurate?

[dull blaze]

Mkay, wanted to be sure. Figured they were wrong, but worth checking.

[round dome]

I think vers is just insane

and if it's not nerfed stacking vers to the ceiling is correct

[rigid linden]

@tardy hare did a vision and got a r3 expedient piece so I tested boomy damage on dummy B4 sleep

BANG EXPLAINED

[tiny oar]

Formy confirmed not washed

[rigid linden]

Wellll idk about that 1

I've only done like 150 3s game this ssn

Heh

[tiny oar]

what the hell

My dog has played more 3s games than that

Between MW and rdruid I'm at 400, done way too many 2s this season though need to just start pumping 3s

[olive glade]

anyone know what happens after you get the season reward mount? do you start progressing on another mount?

[tiny oar]

Can just get vicious saddles after season mount @olive glade

[rigid linden]

@tiny oar

[tiny oar]

Balance

Next thing you know formy will be playing guardian

[rigid linden]

ROFL

ranged feels like the most forgiving thing ever

sitting back and just boom boom

[tiny oar]

Guess you dont need to play as many games when ur already r1

Us plebs still need to put in our 10000 hrs n queue 2k games a season

[rigid linden]

Yeah most r1s would be like i gotta stay on top prove my spot

im just like NAH BRUH WE DIPPING SHIT GAME

ROFL

now we push raider.io points >:D

[tiny oar]

Lmao

[rigid linden]

Besides sinsiter such a sick title

like 3-4 ppl i know who got notorious and sinister still use sinister

[tiny oar]

Yea better than notorious jesus christ

[rigid linden]

yeah i wanna play war next xpac

looks fkn amazing

has EVERYTHING

[tiny oar]

War with unpruning looks fucking sick yea

[rigid linden]

its Fuji's time to shine this season

@stray sigil

[tiny oar]

Get that bread fuji

God I hope theres no pve grindfest in slands so I can just log on and queue for 10 hrs a day

Yea nice mix of both is okay

But visions and m+ ugh

Yea gear actually dropped from pvp in s2 now its non existent lol

S1*

[stray sigil]

ya i think we have good shot at r1 this ssn

[clear pulsar]

I believe in you fuji

Just keep consulting with me for your gearing and essence decisions ofc

[stray sigil]

ur the math guy

i just do big dam

[clear pulsar]

And you're the actually-plays-the-game-well guy

[stray sigil]

pog

[tiny oar]

The brain and the brawn

[clear pulsar]

I keep forgetting to turn on stream when I queue

But it's always just dumb 2s anyway

[stray sigil]

i always watch fellow feral brothers

[clear pulsar]

When I q 3s it's literally the most scuffed bullshit with guildies that just want to cap and are struggling to get 1800 for mog

Feral dh rsham

Feral fdk rsham

Feral sp hpal

[stray sigil]

thats axtins buisness

shit comps pog

[clear pulsar]

And everytime I queue

I lose at least 2 games to dc'ing anyway

But my gear is so popping

I feel awful about it

[stray sigil]

fukin brazil internet

[clear pulsar]

Losing games when your gear is tremendous sucks

[tiny oar]

Just dont dc XD

[stray sigil]

tru

stop dcing noob

[tiny oar]

Yea I got 4 t3 vers amps on monk now if I lose I'm bad confirmed

Feels good