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theres never beena more tilting time to play healer its fuckiung disgusting
rogue waiting til tendie proc to use kidney insta wiun
i switched to MW this patch to play mongo melee cleave if you cant beat em join em
:)))))
People who play guardian
:))
And try to say it's not the scummiest broken shit it is
i like the hard bit when you take a lot of damage so you press enveloping
Are like people saying the old fart and his son who killed the black dude jogging were just defending themselves
Stupid fuckwits in denial
wow face uve become very toxic
does anyone else like the new mechanic where you save trinket for tentacle+claw instead of big CDs like vendetta kidney
:))))))
People playing dh guardian and going to socks' twitch chat to talk shit after losing are very toxic @stray sigil
play human dont even need trinket
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i almost went in phataphors stream earlier
to shittalk in his chat
but i did not
i am reformed
You like the mechanic where you get a tentacle spawn on you and then get MCd and the tentacle keeps killing you thru?
:)))
today i lost a game of 2s against rogue disc by beginning to run away from rogue after his go, dispeling wound poison, then a tentacle from the priest ACROSS THE MAP solos me
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nice partner u got there leaving em up
he was MCd
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i still havent heard a single nice argument for corruption in pvp
gAmEs ArE fAsTeR
exactly hahahaha, i mean the good players are still top of the ladder but idk sometimes you can outplay a team for 5 minutes then just get one shot i dont think its fun RNG, avoidable or anything just makes me not want to playt and try improve
if they hardcapped corruption stacking it'd be less (((redactedeatmyasswarden)))
honestly i just think it shouldnt be active in instanced pvp
there is no reason for it
i honestly don't mind corruption, dying in 1 kidney shot because of one lucky r6 tendie is just ugh
they just like classes doing more dmg with random shit and procs than actual abilities it seems this expac
classic passive damage season
reeee
this is first season i was going to try push as hard as i can to get my first glad achievement but idk if i can be bothered with it
i also like getting randomly blown the fuck up to 3 dying breath procs back to back
one thing i have been really struggling with recently is warriors in 2s though i have no idea how to play against them
do we go on them or the healer and how the fuck do you outheal their damage and MS
Smexxin's ele sham
Has over 30% base versa
And still has room for gushing wound in his corruption budget
if they made a vendor or something
where u could buy corruption u want
but no
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it'd be even worse, everyone would be stacking gushing wound
yeah im pretty fucking done
and the cape just keeps going up in corrupt resist
cant wait
im going to classic
yeah the corruptiuon is also going up every week too of course which means when people are pushing at the end of the season even MORE gushing wounds and random procs and its not as if there are really any decent hjealer corruptions which means it gets continuously harder to heal every week in a way
like sure i can wear more vers amps
does that really counteract more tendie procs
no
druid is giga bad in classic lol
ur a raid buff tool almost
u dont do dps
u dont tank well
and u dont really heal well either
i mean feral is better than pally or shamna and basically equal with priest
ele is turbo garbage and we're talking about dps so
i rlyt dont think ele is worse than feral or boomy lol
ur hogging debuffs as both ferals and boomy
i mean there's literal logs to prove damage now
no need to think
feral 4th on hakkar
boomy dead last by a lot lul
na logged in to classic
took me 30mins to complete 1 quest
got 1-2 bars
logged off
LMAOOO
sounds about right
how about this guy
What the fucking fuck is that fucking gear
hilarious hes not 2.4 with this many gushings
He's 2.5 now tho
That guy has 4 gushing on his dh too
Wtf
5x mastery on mage
3 tendies priest
How do u even get this lucky
hes 2.5 in 2s zz
Bought some pieces too
ah so thats why
blizzard rewarding token buyer
we all know how to get gushings then
prob what that guy did
@rigid linden i need the big dog help
what to do vs spiters
cant stop saps unless miracle
idk what to do
if my disc trinkets opener
he dies next spite go with blind
seems very doomed
i havnt vsed spite yet
so no idea
i dont rly play game
LOL
right now im trying to replace cat form sounds with old ones
cause im sick of this srksrksrsrkarss
stupid sounds
bro
i was counting on u
u failed me
axtin told me yolo trash the rog out glhf pretty much
U can try breach
But there is no counter to spite as jungle, breach/undispelable trap, and CC them on the go, they will throw everything like blocks ps and shit, so u might randomly kill em, if disc survice for some reason
Gotta try the stampede honor talent also
Cuz i did not try yet
But if that was clearing spite, the tournament players would know it by now
And also playing -corruptuon is a Play, but depends on the mmr u Play, if u face same ppl over and over
And there are new teams all the time
Yeah I always play like around 20 or lower
Freedom roar doesnt work
Freedom only keeps it from stacking, it doesnt remove existing stacks, and freedom roar is just an instant removal, not a long-lasting buff
Hi guys quick question is Guardian viable in 2s?
But ride the wind removes all the stucks
And IT removes all the slows
The truth is, spite should deal like, small dmg
Like 1k per second or so
So it doesn't remove the stacks
It makes them go down as if you werent standing in spite
Same as freedom
Hi guys quick question is Guardian viable in 2s?
Hi guys quick question is Guardian viable in 3s?
Hi guys quick question is Guardian viable in war games?
Hi guys quick question is Guardian viable?
Hi gys is guardin?
@lime light freedom roar removes spite stacks?
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We have no transmog channel?
correct
Is there a reason tho?
@lime light cant pvp without fire mog
Glyph I've seen your mogs
hide everything but pants gang
Can anyone point me in the direction of a feral PvP guide. Looking to start some 2s with a Hpal
Pin
Or Google Wowhead PvP feral guide
Or type in YouTube Cassidy 8.3 feral guide I think
There's 3 options :p
Cassidy 8.3 feral guide I think ty @rigid linden
is there a better feeling than one shotting a destro
175k bite 100k flame 100k dres
he got a taste of fuji dick
Ahh damn
biggest bite of the universe
i bet that scum felt that one
even his hpal spit on him
thats how hard i doggd him
seems very meme
sad we can't wear duals 
The nzoth tank tinket is nerfed in arena?
More valuable, it can reduce a single attack dmg by 80% if that shit hits harder than ur absorb. i.e u can tank 300k chaosbolt with this trinket
The nzoth trinket is probably the best defensive trinket you can wear in arena tbh
Is there any detailed guide on how to play boomy in rbg
111k absorb every 1 min, safeguard is 142k at same ilvl every 3 min, and emblem is slightly longer cd and it works different, sometimes it can do quite little to save you
Best thing about rbg as feral is when people talk shit and then you're top of dps meter, outheal on of your healers, and had like 20 kicks 20 stuns 20 cyclones over the game
Ofc only applies to yolo lfg for cap
Cuz why else would you rbg
Hi guys can I ask a quick question about guardians in pvp?
@vestal citrus forum squad when max and ryu talk is good shitter reading
Hello, i'm a raider as moonkin and playing resto in pvp in 2s, I was wondering what was the best way to don't get one shotted vs DH / Assassin Rogue ?
bear form ๐
Root clone besr form and stay far away
Make them run off your dps to you and just juke behind pillar
Step isnt 40 yard range neither is any dh ability
wanna start picking up guardian FCing - have the maut staff, is it worth keep that corrup?
same as arena
Guys, how necessary are cyclone rotation whereas playing 2s with lock as resto?
I've usually played 2s with DH, can't get used to this stuff
I mean like is it key stuff for this comp?
not really

wild flreshrending vs gushing lacerations?
@vestal citrus
Gunshing @olive glade
anyone got a link to a guardian RBG guide?
guys whats the best corruption for feral
Gushing wounds x7
Story of our life. Some vers amps / procs ain't bad either
other than that what should i go for
oh
got like 2x rank 3 vers proc
what about mastery procs ?
worth using ?
can mind flay proc off u throwing a dot out?
Tendies only proc off damage events.

what are good sites to look for pvp comps/tierlists?
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nice
ye i no
So like the single best geared guardian druid abusing the fact that tdev hits the same target twice in same proc
People who q guardian are absolute morons
But good for them I guess
Get that free rating
yea they blasting fuck it i guess
they both died instantly, good lord
They literally only died there
Because tdev hit both multiple times
As they're walking away from the druid when it procs
It's absurd
tbh you should have an icd on getting hit with it in pvp

Feral PVP:
Crit mast, or Crit Vers?
Ive always been Crit Mast but ive seen some people going Crit Vers.
Any thoughts?
Versa/mast
But I have so much good +crit% corruption ๐ฆ
Go PvE 
I do. But I mostly PVP. I PVP alot. Seem to be doing fine, but I wonder.....
Vers/Mast is what most people play
It wont make or break your games tho at all
Whether you have crit vers or mastery vers or w/e
Same but in pvp

Ofc it is
But blood major

100 crit for bite frenzy bite drest
Actual 100-0 clothies
3x hmc too which crits for like 50k+ if it procs during blood
it kinda pumps
probably but its still extra pressure
if its nerfed prob not worth losing off stats ?
its not nerfed in pvp but it cant crit
or anything
just always a 56k dam
or less
cause vers
engineering is BIS
wish i had someone who was good at math
to see if my vers mastery gear is better than crit vers
':(
3x3=9
never thought id do this
BUT IM SIMMING IT
can u enable pvp
on simc
u ant
fuck
Well
You should sim it
And if crit set is really way higher than mast one
You should wonder using it
That's way too much maths for me formy
I belive vers mast better
Oof
Not that baaad
Outch
imagine if that was even just
1 versatile
id be so happy
i can do 4x masterful btw
but im using this
Vers mast any day
can you sim crit for pvp though?
any tips on surviving melees as resto druid? for instance, unholy dk seems to just blow me up, charge doesn't really work against his grip and long distance stun
warrior is also sticky, nothing like it used to be
Is the Golden Plumage equal to, better than, or worse than the passive verse, on use mainstat trinket for feral?
they feel really similar to me, but i dont see plumage on any guides and im not sure how much of that is them just excluding pve content for the sake of brevity and "its not super busted so its not needed"
Plumage is the exact same trinket as the pvp medallion
700 agi is better static damage than 230 versa, but 1200 versa is much less burst than 3600 agi
Mostly if you have access to both at similar ilvl, most people will take badge
exaclty what i wanted thx dealer
got it, thanks face; my plumage is 25 higher so i was using it over it regardless, but i was thinking about it and figured id get an opinion should the choice ever be closer
@clear pulsar that actually
doesnt sound that bad
especially for rogue with lower blind/vendetta compared to trinket
Yeah and t1 is super efficient
i have ineffable on my monk and sometimes i get like 6 or 7 second interrupts
its p nice
hey resto question?
i just went into a udk, dh, sham and the amount of dam I feel there was no way to keep up in mana
we just bled out
the shaman ended around 30% mana and thats me stretching thin
any help would be great ๐
thank you
yea just feels like at any point the damage was pressuring kills
maybe is a positional thing?
as dumb as it sounds, get better lol sometimes is the right answer
Last week I got 3x racing pulse
This week I got 3x infinite stars so far
One each tier

T3 from m+ weekly, t2 from 5 mask, t1 from 3 mask
Hey @lime light iโd like to know what is the addon you have that displays additionnal stats on your gear ( blue text)
It's called advanced tooltip
Thanks!
Really shoule be a feature of the game
Agreed
@clear pulsar VERSE CORRUPT
dv is insane for feral
by far the best corruption
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can only use
anzi
id always take dv
over everything
Hi all, I main a paladin but have dabbled in druid a bit. I have always found druid very fun but reluctant to play as people always say how feral is trash.
I wanted to ask. How is resto druid in comparison to holy pally? I know it's harder to play but I'm assuming it's the stronger healer?
Also what is the state of feral? Is it gear dependent where I have to be heroic/mythic raiding to be viable? And does it rank stronger than Ret Pala?
Bearing in mind especially for feral I'd be playing twos in lfg so don't know if it's also comp limited with specific healers only.
Thanks
id say hpal is a fair bit stronger than rdru right now
on the other hand i think feral is in a better spot than ret
but feral atm requires a fair bit of gear
you can play some double dps comps for sure with feral, but ud have an easier time climbing with a disc or an hpal for example
Ok thanks
Does arena party frames always use your raidframes? Or is there an addon that can deal with that? (since I would have to manually adjust it after raiding..).
Ofcourse. Thanks @vestal citrus , that makes perfect sense.
sub to mies peasants
^
The "issue" you'll find with feral is that your defensives have to always be preemptive, very different from pala. Resto still can barkskin while stunned, like hpala wall, but if you have no hots on yourself preemptively, and aren't in bear form, you can still drop very low and possibly die through to physical damage since you aren't plate armor.
It's just different design, and if you get used to it, you're for the most part harder to kill as any druid spec than as hpal or ret honestly
@languid socket
Is it a good time to pick up feral?
Do you have people to pve with you for gear?
Only m+
I mean feral's good
It's not oppressive like ww, dk, fire, destro, assa
But it's good
I play only Hunter, and I want another class
You need the staff that drops from Maut
And the 2 bis traits are completely missing from raid azerite
So you have to roll residuum tokens, hope for pvp weekly chest drop, or spam games til you get to at least 460 conquest caps
Missing?
Yes
Ah
I guess also horrific visions drop them
It's just not a good time to pick up completely new alts, but feral is not in a bad spot
@clear pulsar DONKI KONG
toxic?


Ok boomer

There is nothing quite like
Losing to destro rdru
Then rolling resto, inviting destro friend, and beating them in the mirror after
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I havent healed in a long time

But I did for cap once
It was tremendous
Felt so powerful
Oh yeah you ww abuser now
@lime light does russian sound similar to polish? Like can you understand a little bit?
Is tony as funny as cassidy?
Cuz cassidy is hilarious
I can only understand a little bit of french but
tony kinda dumb ngl ๐
Idk he's just funny
but good player
cassidy a whole ass clown for real lol
why
@lime light french racist gg
Blood of the enemy boy

Bro blood FARMS mistweavers
Get them to like 70% then do a go with drest and frenzy
Maim frenzy drest bite, maybe half bash, maybe just meld rake
They trinket or die tbh
But if they trinket they die next time anyway
Unless they pre cocoon
Next time you just bash blood bite bike frenzy half maim
Half the time it works 100% of the time
100-0 a resto thru barkskin
Just now
Only way to beat resto destro tbh
One shot the healer
With mad blood bike combo
Only if you're good
yes

bro mw flops without blood too lul
@lime light they aren"t
no
True
But blood is super reliable 100-0
When they dont have trinket
@stray sigil @lime light @obtuse ice share feral keybinds I want to change mine
@rigid linden you too
Alt F4

wait a sec
If you don't get some tell me @clear pulsar
and don't forget french Keyboard
I keep moonfire bound in cat form in hope that lunar inspiration will be good one day

Aight thanks brother
Dash on S and roar on alt S is pog
was wondering to put kick on S
Why logout brother
logging other druid
target focus 123
bike F4

Any idea on a trinket for guardian in pug rbgs? Not ideal tank afaik but sometimes pugs make do.
Nzoth tank trinket is quite good
I mean I don't play rbgs often, and I never play guardian cuz fuck that noise I'm not a scumbag
But as feral I like the nzoth tank trinket better than emblem or safeguard
Eh need tanks, I ran it up to 2.1k like 5 years ago
Haha 2.1 rn is top 200 rbgs
Yeah may run that and battlemaster
Bracket is dead as fuck
run it down babi
Always liked them with a consistent group, but yeah seems incredibly dead. Haven't tried them since WoD
Yeah they've been super slow in bfa
Oh man, uh apparently I got my achieves 9 years ago. I feel old.
Rip
Honestly maybe you just take an offensive trinket
Always used "but I can guardian" to get in as a feral
if u play TD
Yeah I say the same @cobalt mauve
play wrathion trinket
Just never actually go guardian 
Yeah you could just stack TD and play 2 haste procs
Vita+Wrathion gg
I think my guardian pve gear has like 35% haste or something stupid
The combo bonus? No
They're trash anyway
Even with combo I dont think they'd be worth playing over bis stuff
hey does anyone know if there are hidden rules around Master Shapeshifter? It seems like some ability are exempt from the feral affinity 25% boost
It only affects spells that you can use in cat form @sage basalt which includes moonfire because feral has a talent that lets them use moonfire in cat form and blizz code is weird
Wtf they work in obelisk lmao
ty
y
wish they'd reword it then
"your damage is increased by 25%"
doesn't impact sunfire dot, DOES impact moonfire dot, does not impact Crucible hit or dot
It says "while in cat form" and the only damage you can deal while in cat form is your dots, so maybe it should be made to affect sunfire, but trinkets and essences arent affected by any damage modifiers in the game
So ofc it's not affected by master shapeshifter
ah, didn't know about that last part either
So these are my binds. Trinket is mouse wheel click, kick and root are on side mouse buttons. I want to change kick from there but idk where to put.
@lime light @obtuse ice help
Moonfire R biggest troll rn
I just want to be able to press it while I'm doing damage so it made sense on mouse button, it just feels slow cuz my thumb is never in position to do it
When I need a quick kick
Yeah I know, I was memeing with moonfire as feral spriest last season
is that all the button you have?
Yeah H is travel form
sooth Z ?
Alt X is thorns myself, shift X is thorns party 1, ctrl X is thorns party 2
Same with regrowth and dispel
@clear pulsar do you know if corruption abilities fall in that bucket too, with Crucible?
They should, but blizzard is known for being lazy
alt+1 2 3 4?
IN CAT FORM YOU FUCKEN DINGUS @rigid linden
those r mine
Is your kick on mouse button?
can't you takeactualy screen shot
xD
not online
just went to a recording
of key i did
its 3am here
SLEEP TIMEEE
HEUHUEHEHWE
Damn you have pay 2 win mouse
lol
/target [mod:alt] arena1
/target [mod:shift] arena2
/target [mod:ctrl] arena3
/cast [nomod][@arena1,mod:alt][@arena2,mod:shift][@arena3,mod:ctrl]ferocious bite
@obtuse ice all my spells are like this
Bro??
@clear pulsar idk i kick with thumb too
its fast for me
but mu buttons is pretty big and easy to press
thats a kick
Interesting
Ok I'll keep it then
THanks for help brothers
Thanks for sharing
I'll try to like
Hold the mouse a little different
So my thumb rests on it
what mouse do u have
if the buttons are rly small
like on naga/scimitar
idk it might be not that good
but if the button is big, imo its bis
the other thing is
Idk model
idk if u knew
but old school players
were walking" in the game
holding right and left button
at the same time
so impossible to kick
with thumb


any tips for not dying as resto in 3v3?
Maybe no mastery is the way
Haste buffs proc rate of corruption
Essences trinkets and corruption all crit
And all affected by versa
Mastery is pretty fucken lame tbh
prolly ye
but i dont care
going versa mast
or gushing>versa>mast
but still no gushing
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iam doing poo rn
EZ katka only 50% mastery
I wanna test the t3 stars I got
Yeah first few games it was super sad
way more
I dont have gw

Ok so I got full stack versa
25%
With 2x mastery proc
915 each
Sounds good yeah?

Yeah
but its 54 corruption rn
and i need maut mythic weapon
and its actaully pog
it will be like 60% versa
ye, but i did half of it in s3
and rest in s4
wasnt hard
and
to the build
i will play this one
and i wanna make mastery one also
with mastery procs
but need to check gear ecc
cuz when u q, u face same ppl all the time
and they mostly do the same shit
so when i know they dont care about me, i can play big mast
Damn bro you have big versa procs
All on gear with versa
Mine as all in haste gear
No versa
why want vers when you can have crit! pog
probably a more literal definition of screenshot...
bro i only did it like that
cuz it kept screwing my binds
so i had shots on phone so i could fix them quickly
@clear pulsar mas procs are good like 40% uptime for me
ill show u new one when i get to my px
world server down ๐
alt f2
na its my mouse
programmed 123 to be f1 f2 f3
u doing erp in goldshire/
Do you not have any thing on 2 and 3?
Dude yall
Corrupt aint even bad
Got fucking versa proc tendies and gw across all toons
Better to bind f keys to alternate oeys
On mouse
Talk 2 me when u get good corrupts noob @clear pulsar
@clear pulsar do u have any bath water
@lime light i will sell u some
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so take some vers procs and tends/mastery procs over a massive infinite stars for world stuff and bgs ?
Yeah stars is ass tbh
Ok thanks
Gotta decide on surging vitality 3 or tendies 2 lol
oh and the 12% versatile 3...
haha yeah
Potayto potahto
honed mind is a lot of dmg
Potato potato
Honestly that makes me giggle a bit because I just read it as Potato potato
yeah reoptimized i need 4 more CR resistance to be able to get rid of tents and have 3 of those proc ones ๐
Thanks for the tips everyone
Was just able to equip a 75 IS and a TD for PVE stuff so.. had to make sure of what I was doing for pvp ๐
@clear pulsar if u run BOTE in pvp that means no big reaping ๐ฆ
my vers mastery pvp set
so scuffed ROFL
@tiny oar
Might see somethin soon
Praise fucking elune dawg
yo so I been trying out RBGs for the first times as feral.
also in general
i can run a cleave talent set up and consistently run top dps, but is it even worth it to top dps charts if im not bursting targets geting shot called
is there even any benefit?
seems like you can motorcyle and reaping at the same time lol
its a gong show already lol
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Sounds great tbh
If u lose u either got counter comped or ur bad
Since everyone will have bis
No second guessing about losing purely to corruption
Ye true sockets/ mythic ilvl corrupts kinda skews that
Yeah but atm i only have few moments to play
So i get to play more of the things i like rather than spam m+
Trying to get 2400 kinda hard with 0 coruptions vs gushings is prolly harder than gushing vs gushing
fml
i bid all the way up to 200k
for druid t3 on jubei'thos
robe
REEEEEEEEEEE
200k daguq isn't it like few melons
200k is p light
Skewed audience but... anyone play both rdrood and mw? Thoughts on how they compare / which is more fun? ๐
can any bear boi help me abuse corruption in arena













